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:00:13. > :00:15.Hello you're watching BBC world Hello you're watching BBC world

:00:15. > :00:16.Hello you're watching BBC world news. Our top stories: Fury in North

:00:16. > :00:17.news. Our top stories: Fury in North news. Our top stories: Fury in North

:00:17. > :00:18.Korea over another round of UN Korea over another round of UN

:00:18. > :00:19.sanctions. Kim Jong-un's regime sanctions. Kim Jong-un's regime

:00:19. > :00:22.sanctions. Kim Jong-un's regime tears up its non-aggression pact

:00:22. > :00:24.tears up its non-aggression pact tears up its non-aggression pact

:00:25. > :00:26.with the South. MOURPers gather for with the South. MOURPers gather for

:00:26. > :00:28.with the South. MOURPers gather for the funeral of the Venezualan

:00:28. > :00:29.the funeral of the Venezualan the funeral of the Venezualan

:00:29. > :00:32.president, Hugo Chavez which begins president, Hugo Chavez which begins

:00:33. > :00:33.president, Hugo Chavez which begins in just over three hours time.

:00:34. > :00:34.in just over three hours time. in just over three hours time.

:00:35. > :00:35.Activists in Kenya have launched a Activists in Kenya have launched a

:00:35. > :00:36.Activists in Kenya have launched a legal challenge which could halt

:00:36. > :00:40.legal challenge which could halt legal challenge which could halt

:00:40. > :00:41.counting in the country's General counting in the country's General

:00:41. > :00:44.counting in the country's General Election. And Shakespeare with no

:00:45. > :00:46.Election. And Shakespeare with no Election. And Shakespeare with no

:00:46. > :00:56.springs. The team behind War Horse springs. The team behind War Horse

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:01:09. > :01:11.springs. The team behind War Horse Tensions on the Korean peninsula

:01:11. > :01:13.Tensions on the Korean peninsula have escalated after the North

:01:13. > :01:15.have escalated after the North have escalated after the North

:01:15. > :01:16.responded to new UN sanctions with responded to new UN sanctions with

:01:16. > :01:19.responded to new UN sanctions with responded to new UN sanctions with

:01:19. > :01:22.threats of nuclear war. It said it threats of nuclear war. It said it

:01:22. > :01:27.threats of nuclear war. It said it is scrapping all none aggression

:01:27. > :01:27.is scrapping all none aggression is scrapping all none aggression

:01:27. > :01:29.pacts with South Korea. China voted pacts with South Korea. China voted

:01:29. > :01:30.pacts with South Korea. China voted pacts with South Korea. China voted

:01:30. > :01:32.in favour of a fresh round of in favour of a fresh round of

:01:32. > :01:35.in favour of a fresh round of sanctions after North Korea's third

:01:35. > :01:38.sanctions after North Korea's third sanctions after North Korea's third

:01:38. > :01:40.nuclear test last month. Beijing is nuclear test last month. Beijing is

:01:40. > :01:42.nuclear test last month. Beijing is now urging calm. North Korea's

:01:42. > :01:43.now urging calm. North Korea's now urging calm. North Korea's

:01:43. > :01:45.military is in training. Large scale military is in training. Large scale

:01:45. > :01:46.military is in training. Large scale military is in training. Large scale

:01:46. > :01:47.exercises on land, on sea and in the exercises on land, on sea and in the

:01:47. > :01:51.exercises on land, on sea and in the exercises on land, on sea and in the

:01:51. > :01:52.air. A show of force perhaps to air. A show of force perhaps to

:01:52. > :01:54.air. A show of force perhaps to match their leader's threats. They

:01:54. > :01:56.match their leader's threats. They match their leader's threats. They

:01:56. > :01:57.match their leader's threats. They said on Friday they were ending all

:01:57. > :01:58.said on Friday they were ending all said on Friday they were ending all

:01:58. > :02:00.nonaggression pacts with the south nonaggression pacts with the south

:02:00. > :02:02.nonaggression pacts with the south and shutting down the main hotline

:02:02. > :02:03.and shutting down the main hotline and shutting down the main hotline

:02:03. > :02:06.between the countries and has between the countries and has

:02:06. > :02:07.between the countries and has threatened to carry out a

:02:07. > :02:09.threatened to carry out a pre-emptive nuclear strike.

:02:09. > :02:10.pre-emptive nuclear strike. pre-emptive nuclear strike.

:02:10. > :02:11.TRANSLATION: We don't make empty TRANSLATION: We don't make empty

:02:11. > :02:13.TRANSLATION: We don't make empty TRANSLATION: We don't make empty

:02:13. > :02:14.threats. If we say we 'll strike, we threats. If we say we 'll strike, we

:02:14. > :02:16.threats. If we say we 'll strike, we threats. If we say we 'll strike, we

:02:16. > :02:18.'ll strike. If we say we 'll fight, 'll strike. If we say we 'll fight,

:02:18. > :02:19.'ll strike. If we say we 'll fight, 'll strike. If we say we 'll fight,

:02:19. > :02:20.we will fight. Those who try to we will fight. Those who try to

:02:20. > :02:21.we will fight. Those who try to infringe our sovereignty won't be

:02:22. > :02:23.infringe our sovereignty won't be infringe our sovereignty won't be

:02:23. > :02:25.able to escape our grasp. Those able to escape our grasp. Those

:02:25. > :02:27.able to escape our grasp. Those threats have done nothing to deter

:02:27. > :02:29.threats have done nothing to deter threats have done nothing to deter

:02:29. > :02:31.its critics. The UN Security Council its critics. The UN Security Council

:02:31. > :02:33.its critics. The UN Security Council voted in tough new sanctions. Even

:02:33. > :02:34.voted in tough new sanctions. Even voted in tough new sanctions. Even

:02:34. > :02:35.China, North Korea's only major China, North Korea's only major

:02:36. > :02:37.China, North Korea's only major China, North Korea's only major

:02:37. > :02:39.ally, said yes. But that is not the ally, said yes. But that is not the

:02:39. > :02:42.ally, said yes. But that is not the only reason North Korea is anxious.

:02:42. > :02:42.only reason North Korea is anxious. Massive joint military exercises

:02:42. > :02:44.Massive joint military exercises Massive joint military exercises

:02:44. > :02:45.Massive joint military exercises between the US and South Korea are

:02:45. > :02:46.between the US and South Korea are between the US and South Korea are

:02:46. > :02:48.taking place across the border. A taking place across the border. A

:02:48. > :02:51.taking place across the border. A taking place across the border. A

:02:51. > :02:53.second round of drills will begin on second round of drills will begin on

:02:53. > :02:54.second round of drills will begin on Monday when Pyongyang is due to

:02:54. > :02:55.Monday when Pyongyang is due to Monday when Pyongyang is due to

:02:55. > :02:57.withdraw from the current truce. The withdraw from the current truce. The

:02:57. > :02:58.withdraw from the current truce. The new Government in Seoul said if

:02:59. > :03:01.new Government in Seoul said if new Government in Seoul said if

:03:01. > :03:02.provoked it could turn the exercises provoked it could turn the exercises

:03:02. > :03:03.provoked it could turn the exercises provoked it could turn the exercises

:03:03. > :03:05.into a counter attack. In the days into a counter attack. In the days

:03:05. > :03:07.into a counter attack. In the days into a counter attack. In the days

:03:07. > :03:09.leading up to the dead LIEP, North leading up to the dead LIEP, North

:03:09. > :03:11.leading up to the dead LIEP, North Korea's news has been showing their

:03:11. > :03:13.Korea's news has been showing their Korea's news has been showing their

:03:13. > :03:16.new leader tour ing troops and new leader tour ing troops and

:03:16. > :03:16.new leader tour ing troops and new leader tour ing troops and

:03:16. > :03:21.talking about enemy tar GEFTs to the talking about enemy tar GEFTs to the

:03:21. > :03:25.talking about enemy tar GEFTs to the south. Inside the cap pal, public

:03:25. > :03:26.south. Inside the cap pal, public south. Inside the cap pal, public

:03:26. > :03:28.TRT has been Reportedly being TRT has been Reportedly being

:03:28. > :03:30.TRT has been Reportedly being camouflaged. It may sound like the

:03:30. > :03:31.camouflaged. It may sound like the camouflaged. It may sound like the

:03:31. > :03:32.path to war, but the Armistice path to war, but the Armistice

:03:32. > :03:33.path to war, but the Armistice agreement and the hotline have been

:03:33. > :03:36.agreement and the hotline have been agreement and the hotline have been

:03:36. > :03:37.broken many times. The situation may broken many times. The situation may

:03:37. > :03:38.broken many times. The situation may be less predictable and less stable

:03:38. > :03:41.be less predictable and less stable be less predictable and less stable

:03:41. > :03:43.be less predictable and less stable as a result of the threats, but the

:03:43. > :03:45.as a result of the threats, but the as a result of the threats, but the

:03:45. > :03:51.risks of escalation are just as risks of escalation are just as

:03:51. > :03:52.risks of escalation are just as great for North Korea itself.

:03:52. > :03:53.great for North Korea itself. great for North Korea itself.

:03:53. > :03:54.Extraordinary scenes in Venuzuela as Extraordinary scenes in Venuzuela as

:03:54. > :03:56.Extraordinary scenes in Venuzuela as millions of people have been lining

:03:56. > :03:57.millions of people have been lining millions of people have been lining

:03:57. > :03:58.millions of people have been lining up to pay their last respects to

:03:58. > :03:58.up to pay their last respects to up to pay their last respects to

:03:58. > :03:59.up to pay their last respects to Hugo Chavez, who died on Tuesday. We

:03:59. > :04:01.Hugo Chavez, who died on Tuesday. We Hugo Chavez, who died on Tuesday. We

:04:01. > :04:03.Hugo Chavez, who died on Tuesday. We can show you the scene live in ska

:04:03. > :04:05.can show you the scene live in ska can show you the scene live in ska

:04:05. > :04:07.can show you the scene live in ska rack KAS there as people -- Caracas

:04:07. > :04:10.rack KAS there as people -- Caracas rack KAS there as people -- Caracas

:04:10. > :04:10.there as people queue outside the there as people queue outside the

:04:10. > :04:12.there as people queue outside the military academy where Hugo Chavez's

:04:12. > :04:14.military academy where Hugo Chavez's military academy where Hugo Chavez's

:04:14. > :04:18.military academy where Hugo Chavez's coffin is on display. His funeral is

:04:18. > :04:19.coffin is on display. His funeral is coffin is on display. His funeral is

:04:19. > :04:20.taking place later. Leaders from taking place later. Leaders from

:04:20. > :04:23.taking place later. Leaders from Latin America and beyond are also

:04:23. > :04:25.Latin America and beyond are also Latin America and beyond are also

:04:25. > :04:27.gathering. We have been hearing that gathering. We have been hearing that

:04:27. > :04:29.gathering. We have been hearing that the Chilean leader has arrived and

:04:29. > :04:31.the Chilean leader has arrived and the Chilean leader has arrived and

:04:32. > :04:35.Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran flew in Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran flew in

:04:35. > :04:37.Mahmoud Ahmadinejad of Iran flew in last night. Let's go over to

:04:37. > :04:39.last night. Let's go over to last night. Let's go over to

:04:39. > :04:43.correspondent in Caracas. Tell us correspondent in Caracas. Tell us

:04:43. > :04:44.correspondent in Caracas. Tell us correspondent in Caracas. Tell us

:04:44. > :04:46.what is in store today there. what is in store today there.

:04:46. > :04:49.what is in store today there. what is in store today there.

:04:49. > :04:51.the big story today of course is the the big story today of course is the

:04:51. > :04:53.the big story today of course is the funeral. Plans for it were changed

:04:53. > :04:54.funeral. Plans for it were changed funeral. Plans for it were changed

:04:54. > :04:56.funeral. Plans for it were changed at the last minute. We were expect

:04:56. > :04:57.at the last minute. We were expect at the last minute. We were expect

:04:57. > :04:59.at the last minute. We were expect ing a burial today, but the vice

:04:59. > :05:00.ing a burial today, but the vice ing a burial today, but the vice

:05:00. > :05:02.president announced that the body of president announced that the body of

:05:02. > :05:03.president announced that the body of Hugo Chavez would be embalmed, so

:05:03. > :05:06.Hugo Chavez would be embalmed, so Hugo Chavez would be embalmed, so

:05:06. > :05:07.today we are still expecting a today we are still expecting a

:05:07. > :05:09.today we are still expecting a ceremony, but no official burial.

:05:09. > :05:11.ceremony, but no official burial. ceremony, but no official burial.

:05:11. > :05:12.ceremony, but no official burial. And loads of foreign heads of state

:05:12. > :05:14.And loads of foreign heads of state And loads of foreign heads of state

:05:14. > :05:15.from different countries have been from different countries have been

:05:15. > :05:18.from different countries have been from different countries have been

:05:18. > :05:19.pouring in and there is still huge pouring in and there is still huge

:05:19. > :05:20.pouring in and there is still huge queues outside the military academy

:05:20. > :05:22.queues outside the military academy queues outside the military academy

:05:22. > :05:23.queues outside the military academy where he is lying in state. We have

:05:23. > :05:24.where he is lying in state. We have where he is lying in state. We have

:05:24. > :05:26.where he is lying in state. We have been seeing the long queues ore the

:05:26. > :05:27.been seeing the long queues ore the been seeing the long queues ore the

:05:27. > :05:29.been seeing the long queues ore the past few days. -- over the past few

:05:29. > :05:30.past few days. -- over the past few past few days. -- over the past few

:05:30. > :05:32.days. What is the atmosphere like. days. What is the atmosphere like.

:05:32. > :05:34.days. What is the atmosphere like. days. What is the atmosphere like.

:05:34. > :05:39.People are not dressed in black, but People are not dressed in black, but

:05:39. > :05:40.People are not dressed in black, but many dressed in blight red?

:05:40. > :05:42.many dressed in blight red? many dressed in blight red?

:05:42. > :05:43.many dressed in blight red? bright red. Yes, there are loads of

:05:43. > :05:44.bright red. Yes, there are loads of bright red. Yes, there are loads of

:05:44. > :05:45.bright red. Yes, there are loads of flags around and there are images of

:05:45. > :05:48.flags around and there are images of flags around and there are images of

:05:48. > :05:49.this all over the television and this all over the television and

:05:50. > :05:52.this all over the television and newspapers. There have been seas of

:05:52. > :05:55.newspapers. There have been seas of newspapers. There have been seas of

:05:55. > :05:56.red flags and people holding red flags and people holding

:05:56. > :05:58.red flags and people holding pictures of Hugo Chavez, chanting

:05:58. > :05:59.pictures of Hugo Chavez, chanting pictures of Hugo Chavez, chanting

:05:59. > :06:01.typical chants that the late typical chants that the late

:06:01. > :06:03.typical chants that the late president would also use. And over

:06:03. > :06:06.president would also use. And over president would also use. And over

:06:06. > :06:07.all even is gathered, mourning, but all even is gathered, mourning, but

:06:07. > :06:08.all even is gathered, mourning, but also remembering the figure of the

:06:09. > :06:10.also remembering the figure of the also remembering the figure of the

:06:10. > :06:12.also remembering the figure of the character that even says was one of

:06:12. > :06:14.character that even says was one of character that even says was one of

:06:14. > :06:15.a kind. Of course, the vice a kind. Of course, the vice

:06:15. > :06:16.a kind. Of course, the vice a kind. Of course, the vice

:06:16. > :06:17.president is also going to be sworn president is also going to be sworn

:06:17. > :06:18.president is also going to be sworn president is also going to be sworn

:06:18. > :06:21.in as acting president today. So a in as acting president today. So a

:06:21. > :06:26.in as acting president today. So a huge day for Venuzuela. We are

:06:26. > :06:29.huge day for Venuzuela. We are huge day for Venuzuela. We are

:06:29. > :06:31.expecting elections soon? Yes, after expecting elections soon? Yes, after

:06:31. > :06:33.expecting elections soon? Yes, after the constitution says that elections

:06:33. > :06:35.the constitution says that elections the constitution says that elections

:06:35. > :06:37.the constitution says that elections have to be held, or announced within

:06:37. > :06:38.have to be held, or announced within have to be held, or announced within

:06:38. > :06:39.30 days. There is some 30 days. There is some

:06:39. > :06:40.30 days. There is some interpretation that can be done

:06:40. > :06:41.interpretation that can be done interpretation that can be done

:06:41. > :06:43.interpretation that can be done there. We are not yet clear when

:06:43. > :06:43.there. We are not yet clear when there. We are not yet clear when

:06:43. > :06:44.there. We are not yet clear when elections will be held. We know that

:06:45. > :06:46.elections will be held. We know that elections will be held. We know that

:06:46. > :06:48.elections will be held. We know that it will happen soon. We also know

:06:48. > :06:50.it will happen soon. We also know it will happen soon. We also know

:06:50. > :06:51.that the opposition has been in that the opposition has been in

:06:51. > :06:53.that the opposition has been in talks to pick their official

:06:53. > :06:56.talks to pick their official talks to pick their official

:06:56. > :06:58.candidate. The most likely thing candidate. The most likely thing

:06:58. > :06:59.candidate. The most likely thing candidate. The most likely thing

:06:59. > :06:59.however is that the man who lost to however is that the man who lost to

:06:59. > :07:01.however is that the man who lost to Hugo Chavez in the October elections

:07:01. > :07:04.Hugo Chavez in the October elections Hugo Chavez in the October elections

:07:04. > :07:12.will be running again for the will be running again for the

:07:12. > :07:13.will be running again for the opposition. Thank you very much. The

:07:13. > :07:14.opposition. Thank you very much. The opposition. Thank you very much. The

:07:14. > :07:15.funeral will take place in just funeral will take place in just

:07:15. > :07:16.funeral will take place in just funeral will take place in just

:07:16. > :07:17.under three hours there. You can see under three hours there. You can see

:07:17. > :07:19.under three hours there. You can see the scene. There has been no

:07:19. > :07:20.the scene. There has been no the scene. There has been no

:07:20. > :07:22.diminishing in the number of people diminishing in the number of people

:07:22. > :07:24.diminishing in the number of people queueing to see Hugo Chavez's body

:07:24. > :07:25.queueing to see Hugo Chavez's body queueing to see Hugo Chavez's body

:07:25. > :07:26.queueing to see Hugo Chavez's body lying there in state before he is

:07:26. > :07:28.lying there in state before he is lying there in state before he is

:07:28. > :07:30.embalmed and put on permanent embalmed and put on permanent

:07:30. > :07:33.embalmed and put on permanent display in a military museum. We

:07:33. > :07:37.display in a military museum. We display in a military museum. We

:07:37. > :07:39.will back of course to Caracas will back of course to Caracas

:07:39. > :07:40.will back of course to Caracas will back of course to Caracas

:07:40. > :07:47.later. Back to our top story about later. Back to our top story about

:07:47. > :07:48.North Korea scrapping all North Korea scrapping all

:07:48. > :07:49.nonaggression pacts with South nonaggression pacts with South

:07:49. > :07:50.nonaggression pacts with South Korea. Aidan Foster Carter is a

:07:50. > :07:51.Korea. Aidan Foster Carter is a Korea. Aidan Foster Carter is a

:07:51. > :07:52.long-time Korea analyst and Honorary long-time Korea analyst and Honorary

:07:52. > :07:53.long-time Korea analyst and Honorary Senior Research Fellow at the

:07:53. > :07:54.Senior Research Fellow at the Senior Research Fellow at the

:07:54. > :07:55.University of Leeds. He joins me University of Leeds. He joins me

:07:55. > :07:56.University of Leeds. He joins me from our Exeter studios. How Sigg

:07:56. > :07:57.from our Exeter studios. How Sigg from our Exeter studios. How Sigg

:07:57. > :07:58.from our Exeter studios. How Sigg captain is what we are hearing --

:07:58. > :07:59.captain is what we are hearing -- captain is what we are hearing --

:07:59. > :08:01.significant what is we are hearing significant what is we are hearing

:08:01. > :08:02.significant what is we are hearing from North Korea about scrapping

:08:02. > :08:03.from North Korea about scrapping from North Korea about scrapping

:08:03. > :08:05.these agreements with the South? these agreements with the South?

:08:05. > :08:07.these agreements with the South? never wants to be too complacent,

:08:07. > :08:08.never wants to be too complacent, never wants to be too complacent,

:08:08. > :08:10.never wants to be too complacent, given the fire power that exists on

:08:10. > :08:11.given the fire power that exists on given the fire power that exists on

:08:11. > :08:13.the Korean border and the extreme the Korean border and the extreme

:08:13. > :08:14.the Korean border and the extreme North Koreian rhetoric. But there is

:08:14. > :08:15.North Koreian rhetoric. But there is North Koreian rhetoric. But there is

:08:15. > :08:16.North Koreian rhetoric. But there is a certain amount of heard it all

:08:16. > :08:18.a certain amount of heard it all a certain amount of heard it all

:08:18. > :08:20.a certain amount of heard it all before. There isn't a lot to scrap.

:08:20. > :08:22.before. There isn't a lot to scrap. before. There isn't a lot to scrap.

:08:22. > :08:23.before. There isn't a lot to scrap. In terms of the, there is the 1953

:08:23. > :08:24.In terms of the, there is the 1953 In terms of the, there is the 1953

:08:24. > :08:25.Armistice, which South Korea never Armistice, which South Korea never

:08:25. > :08:25.Armistice, which South Korea never Armistice, which South Korea never

:08:25. > :08:27.signed. I think the main one they signed. I think the main one they

:08:27. > :08:28.signed. I think the main one they signed. I think the main one they

:08:28. > :08:32.mean was they had a big pact in mean was they had a big pact in

:08:32. > :08:33.mean was they had a big pact in 1991. But it was never implemented.

:08:33. > :08:35.1991. But it was never implemented. 1991. But it was never implemented.

:08:35. > :08:37.1991. But it was never implemented. In the sunshine era, there were two

:08:37. > :08:41.In the sunshine era, there were two In the sunshine era, there were two

:08:41. > :08:42.agreements they were not called agreements they were not called

:08:42. > :08:45.agreements they were not called nonaggression pacts. But the North

:08:45. > :08:47.nonaggression pacts. But the North nonaggression pacts. But the North

:08:47. > :08:49.co- Rhians talk like this before. co- Rhians talk like this before.

:08:49. > :08:51.co- Rhians talk like this before. co- Rhians talk like this before.

:08:51. > :08:53.How hope -- helpful it is for North How hope -- helpful it is for North

:08:53. > :08:54.How hope -- helpful it is for North How hope -- helpful it is for North

:08:55. > :08:56.Korea to have its ally China be so Korea to have its ally China be so

:08:56. > :08:57.instrumental in bringing about instrumental in bringing about

:08:57. > :08:58.instrumental in bringing about further sanctions. How much more

:08:59. > :09:00.further sanctions. How much more further sanctions. How much more

:09:00. > :09:01.isolated could they get? You would isolated could they get? You would

:09:01. > :09:02.isolated could they get? You would isolated could they get? You would

:09:02. > :09:03.think so. But you have to read think so. But you have to read

:09:03. > :09:05.think so. But you have to read think so. But you have to read

:09:05. > :09:07.between the lines. I do worry about between the lines. I do worry about

:09:07. > :09:10.between the lines. I do worry about the young leader, Kim Jong-un's

:09:10. > :09:10.the young leader, Kim Jong-un's the young leader, Kim Jong-un's

:09:11. > :09:12.judgment, but they have very judgment, but they have very

:09:12. > :09:13.experienced diplomats who know experienced diplomats who know

:09:13. > :09:15.experienced diplomats who know experienced diplomats who know

:09:15. > :09:16.perfectly well, if you set off a perfectly well, if you set off a

:09:16. > :09:17.perfectly well, if you set off a nuclear bomb, you're going to have

:09:17. > :09:20.nuclear bomb, you're going to have condemnation from the Security

:09:20. > :09:20.condemnation from the Security condemnation from the Security

:09:20. > :09:22.Council, including China. You read Council, including China. You read

:09:22. > :09:24.the resolution carefully, what the resolution carefully, what

:09:24. > :09:26.the resolution carefully, what looked like hard line things about

:09:26. > :09:28.looked like hard line things about looked like hard line things about

:09:28. > :09:29.inspecting all cargoes always have a inspecting all cargoes always have a

:09:29. > :09:30.inspecting all cargoes always have a clause, if there is ground for

:09:30. > :09:32.clause, if there is ground for clause, if there is ground for

:09:32. > :09:35.suspicion. So I don't think it suspicion. So I don't think it

:09:35. > :09:37.suspicion. So I don't think it changes much. If they're being more

:09:37. > :09:38.changes much. If they're being more changes much. If they're being more

:09:38. > :09:40.subtle than their propaganda, it subtle than their propaganda, it

:09:40. > :09:40.subtle than their propaganda, it subtle than their propaganda, it

:09:40. > :09:43.isn't such a big change. We have isn't such a big change. We have

:09:43. > :09:46.isn't such a big change. We have been wondering what sort of

:09:46. > :09:48.been wondering what sort of leadership Kim Jong-un would

:09:48. > :09:50.leadership Kim Jong-un would leadership Kim Jong-un would

:09:50. > :09:52.represent. Are we seeing a clearer represent. Are we seeing a clearer

:09:52. > :09:53.represent. Are we seeing a clearer represent. Are we seeing a clearer

:09:53. > :09:54.picture of his character? That is my picture of his character? That is my

:09:54. > :09:56.picture of his character? That is my fear. Because I have been following

:09:56. > :09:57.fear. Because I have been following fear. Because I have been following

:09:57. > :09:59.fear. Because I have been following North Korea for a long time. One is

:09:59. > :10:00.North Korea for a long time. One is North Korea for a long time. One is

:10:00. > :10:02.used to them shouting. But it used to them shouting. But it

:10:02. > :10:03.used to them shouting. But it usually calculated and clear what

:10:03. > :10:04.usually calculated and clear what usually calculated and clear what

:10:04. > :10:06.usually calculated and clear what they want. This time the rhetoric is

:10:06. > :10:07.they want. This time the rhetoric is they want. This time the rhetoric is

:10:07. > :10:08.wild and threatening all with wild and threatening all with

:10:08. > :10:10.pre-emptive nuclear strikes. pre-emptive nuclear strikes.

:10:10. > :10:10.pre-emptive nuclear strikes. pre-emptive nuclear strikes.

:10:11. > :10:12.Sensible people do not do that. Only Sensible people do not do that. Only

:10:12. > :10:13.Sensible people do not do that. Only terrorists even talk like that. It

:10:13. > :10:14.terrorists even talk like that. It terrorists even talk like that. It

:10:14. > :10:15.terrorists even talk like that. It is not clear what he wants. He is

:10:15. > :10:17.is not clear what he wants. He is is not clear what he wants. He is

:10:17. > :10:17.is not clear what he wants. He is supposed to be a hot head. I fear

:10:18. > :10:19.supposed to be a hot head. I fear supposed to be a hot head. I fear

:10:19. > :10:20.supposed to be a hot head. I fear that may be what we are seeing.

:10:20. > :10:22.that may be what we are seeing. that may be what we are seeing.

:10:22. > :10:23.that may be what we are seeing. is an empty threat. In the last

:10:23. > :10:25.is an empty threat. In the last is an empty threat. In the last

:10:25. > :10:27.seconds this nuclear strike idea is seconds this nuclear strike idea is

:10:27. > :10:28.seconds this nuclear strike idea is seconds this nuclear strike idea is

:10:28. > :10:29.all bluster? I believe that is all all bluster? I believe that is all

:10:29. > :10:30.all bluster? I believe that is all all bluster? I believe that is all

:10:30. > :10:30.bluster. But I'm far safely from the bluster. But I'm far safely from the

:10:30. > :10:38.bluster. But I'm far safely from the bluster. But I'm far safely from the

:10:38. > :10:39.area and we have to be vigilant. area and we have to be vigilant.

:10:39. > :10:39.area and we have to be vigilant. area and we have to be vigilant.

:10:39. > :10:40.Thank you. In Kenya, the High Court Thank you. In Kenya, the High Court

:10:40. > :10:41.Thank you. In Kenya, the High Court is considering a legal challenge

:10:41. > :10:42.is considering a legal challenge is considering a legal challenge

:10:42. > :10:43.that could halt counting in the that could halt counting in the

:10:43. > :10:44.country's presidential elections. country's presidential elections.

:10:44. > :10:45.Activists want the electoral Activists want the electoral

:10:45. > :10:46.commission to stop announcing commission to stop announcing

:10:46. > :10:47.commission to stop announcing results until steps have been taken

:10:47. > :10:48.results until steps have been taken results until steps have been taken

:10:48. > :10:49.to address their concerns over the to address their concerns over the

:10:49. > :10:50.to address their concerns over the process, including a software bug

:10:50. > :10:51.process, including a software bug process, including a software bug

:10:51. > :10:52.that multiplied the number of that multiplied the number of

:10:52. > :10:57.that multiplied the number of rejected ballot papers by a factor

:10:57. > :10:58.rejected ballot papers by a factor rejected ballot papers by a factor

:10:58. > :10:59.of eight. With more than three of eight. With more than three

:10:59. > :11:00.of eight. With more than three quarters of the results announced,

:11:00. > :11:01.quarters of the results announced, quarters of the results announced,

:11:01. > :11:02.Uhuru Kenyatta is leading, but it's Uhuru Kenyatta is leading, but it's

:11:02. > :11:03.Uhuru Kenyatta is leading, but it's not yet clear whether he's won

:11:03. > :11:04.not yet clear whether he's won not yet clear whether he's won

:11:04. > :11:10.not yet clear whether he's won enough of the vote to avoid a run

:11:10. > :11:13.enough of the vote to avoid a run enough of the vote to avoid a run

:11:13. > :11:16.enough of the vote to avoid a run enough of the vote to avoid a run

:11:16. > :11:18.off. We will be live to Nairobi in a off. We will be live to Nairobi in a

:11:18. > :11:20.off. We will be live to Nairobi in a few minutes time. Human rights

:11:20. > :11:22.few minutes time. Human rights few minutes time. Human rights

:11:22. > :11:27.groups have urged the Bangladeshi groups have urged the Bangladeshi

:11:27. > :11:31.groups have urged the Bangladeshi Government to provide protection to

:11:31. > :11:33.Government to provide protection to minority Buddhist and Hindu

:11:33. > :11:35.minority Buddhist and Hindu communities. The BBC's correspondent

:11:36. > :11:38.communities. The BBC's correspondent communities. The BBC's correspondent

:11:38. > :11:41.reports from a village in the reports from a village in the

:11:41. > :11:43.reports from a village in the southern district. Not far from

:11:43. > :11:45.southern district. Not far from southern district. Not far from

:11:45. > :11:49.Chittagong City. I'm afraid we don't Chittagong City. I'm afraid we don't

:11:49. > :11:51.Chittagong City. I'm afraid we don't Chittagong City. I'm afraid we don't

:11:51. > :11:52.have that report at the moment from have that report at the moment from

:11:52. > :11:54.have that report at the moment from Bangladesh. We will try and bring

:11:54. > :11:56.Bangladesh. We will try and bring Bangladesh. We will try and bring

:11:56. > :11:58.Bangladesh. We will try and bring that to you soon. We can now rejoin

:11:58. > :12:00.that to you soon. We can now rejoin that to you soon. We can now rejoin

:12:00. > :12:02.that to you soon. We can now rejoin our Kenya story and go live to our

:12:02. > :12:04.our Kenya story and go live to our correspondent in Nairobi. Following

:12:04. > :12:05.correspondent in Nairobi. Following correspondent in Nairobi. Following

:12:05. > :12:09.events as the counting continues. events as the counting continues.

:12:09. > :12:11.events as the counting continues. Bring us up-to-date. What is

:12:11. > :12:12.Bring us up-to-date. What is Bring us up-to-date. What is

:12:12. > :12:15.happening? Well counting is still happening? Well counting is still

:12:15. > :12:17.happening? Well counting is still happening? Well counting is still

:12:17. > :12:20.going on at the main centre. The going on at the main centre. The

:12:20. > :12:22.presidential final results are presidential final results are

:12:22. > :12:24.presidential final results are coming out. 233 constituencies have

:12:24. > :12:25.coming out. 233 constituencies have coming out. 233 constituencies have

:12:25. > :12:27.had their votes counted. Uhuru had their votes counted. Uhuru

:12:27. > :12:28.had their votes counted. Uhuru had their votes counted. Uhuru

:12:28. > :12:30.Kenyatta is leading with 49. 5% of Kenyatta is leading with 49. 5% of

:12:30. > :12:31.Kenyatta is leading with 49. 5% of Kenyatta is leading with 49. 5% of

:12:31. > :12:33.the votes that have been counted so the votes that have been counted so

:12:33. > :12:35.the votes that have been counted so far. And Raila Odinga follows there

:12:35. > :12:36.far. And Raila Odinga follows there far. And Raila Odinga follows there

:12:36. > :12:37.far. And Raila Odinga follows there with 44. 1% of the votes that have

:12:37. > :12:39.with 44. 1% of the votes that have with 44. 1% of the votes that have

:12:39. > :12:41.with 44. 1% of the votes that have been counted. Now, all this is going

:12:41. > :12:42.been counted. Now, all this is going been counted. Now, all this is going

:12:42. > :12:43.been counted. Now, all this is going on, there is -- despite the fact

:12:43. > :12:44.on, there is -- despite the fact on, there is -- despite the fact

:12:44. > :12:46.that some groups came together and that some groups came together and

:12:46. > :12:47.that some groups came together and that some groups came together and

:12:47. > :12:49.filed a case at the High Court filed a case at the High Court

:12:49. > :12:50.challenging the electoral process. challenging the electoral process.

:12:51. > :12:52.challenging the electoral process. challenging the electoral process.

:12:52. > :12:53.The V they are demanding that the The V they are demanding that the

:12:53. > :12:54.independent electoral boundaries independent electoral boundaries

:12:54. > :12:56.commission stops announcing results commission stops announcing results

:12:56. > :13:00.commission stops announcing results until a fair process is instituted.

:13:00. > :13:02.until a fair process is instituted. until a fair process is instituted.

:13:02. > :13:04.They also want an explanation why They also want an explanation why

:13:04. > :13:06.that electronic transmission system that electronic transmission system

:13:06. > :13:07.that electronic transmission system that electronic transmission system

:13:07. > :13:08.failed and they are saying they need failed and they are saying they need

:13:08. > :13:10.failed and they are saying they need the public availability of some of

:13:10. > :13:11.the public availability of some of the public availability of some of

:13:11. > :13:13.the public availability of some of the forms that were signed by agents

:13:13. > :13:17.the forms that were signed by agents the forms that were signed by agents

:13:17. > :13:18.of the different parties. In the of the different parties. In the

:13:18. > :13:19.of the different parties. In the of the different parties. In the

:13:19. > :13:20.last few MOURs -- hours a judge has last few MOURs -- hours a judge has

:13:20. > :13:21.last few MOURs -- hours a judge has last few MOURs -- hours a judge has

:13:21. > :13:22.last few MOURs -- hours a judge has said he will rule on that case in an

:13:22. > :13:26.said he will rule on that case in an said he will rule on that case in an

:13:26. > :13:28.said he will rule on that case in an hour's time. That is where we are in

:13:28. > :13:29.hour's time. That is where we are in hour's time. That is where we are in

:13:29. > :13:31.this election. I suppose that is this election. I suppose that is

:13:31. > :13:31.this election. I suppose that is this election. I suppose that is

:13:32. > :13:33.clear at this stage, until we know clear at this stage, until we know

:13:33. > :13:35.clear at this stage, until we know clear at this stage, until we know

:13:36. > :13:37.what they say, how much of a delay what they say, how much of a delay

:13:37. > :13:39.what they say, how much of a delay what they say, how much of a delay

:13:39. > :13:42.this could be to the result? Yes, we this could be to the result? Yes, we

:13:42. > :13:44.this could be to the result? Yes, we probably will not know, but the

:13:44. > :13:46.probably will not know, but the independent electoral boundaries

:13:46. > :13:48.independent electoral boundaries commission chairman promised that

:13:48. > :13:49.commission chairman promised that commission chairman promised that

:13:49. > :13:50.the final results will be released the final results will be released

:13:50. > :13:51.the final results will be released the final results will be released

:13:51. > :13:52.today. So it is just a few hours today. So it is just a few hours

:13:53. > :13:54.today. So it is just a few hours today. So it is just a few hours

:13:54. > :13:55.before the end of the day, so before the end of the day, so

:13:55. > :13:56.before the end of the day, so Kenyans have been waiting and the

:13:56. > :13:57.Kenyans have been waiting and the Kenyans have been waiting and the

:13:57. > :13:58.thinking could be we have waited thinking could be we have waited

:13:58. > :14:00.thinking could be we have waited thinking could be we have waited

:14:00. > :14:01.three days, we can wait a few more three days, we can wait a few more

:14:01. > :14:05.three days, we can wait a few more three days, we can wait a few more

:14:05. > :14:14.hours. That is the situation at this hours. That is the situation at this

:14:14. > :14:18.hours. That is the situation at this moment. Thank you. Stay with us.

:14:18. > :14:20.moment. Thank you. Stay with us. moment. Thank you. Stay with us.

:14:20. > :14:22.Coming up: Tackling one of last Coming up: Tackling one of last

:14:22. > :14:24.Coming up: Tackling one of last Coming up: Tackling one of last

:14:24. > :14:29.great that boos. An India version of great that boos. An India version of

:14:29. > :14:39.great that boos. An India version of great that boos. An India version of

:14:39. > :14:46.

:14:46. > :14:48.Moster Moscow correspondent asked Moster Moscow correspondent asked

:14:48. > :14:49.Moster Moscow correspondent asked Moster Moscow correspondent asked

:14:49. > :14:51.if there was any common ground on if there was any common ground on

:14:51. > :14:52.if there was any common ground on if there was any common ground on

:14:52. > :14:53.Syria. We both want Syria to be Syria. We both want Syria to be

:14:54. > :14:54.Syria. We both want Syria to be united, to be democratic, we both

:14:54. > :14:55.united, to be democratic, we both united, to be democratic, we both

:14:55. > :14:56.united, to be democratic, we both want the Syrian people to be able

:14:56. > :14:58.want the Syrian people to be able want the Syrian people to be able

:14:58. > :15:00.want the Syrian people to be able to choose P all we -- freely who

:15:00. > :15:05.to choose P all we -- freely who to choose P all we -- freely who

:15:05. > :15:07.can run their country. And of can run their country. And of

:15:07. > :15:09.can run their country. And of course, that has been the Russian

:15:09. > :15:12.course, that has been the Russian course, that has been the Russian

:15:12. > :15:13.position for two years, since the position for two years, since the

:15:13. > :15:14.position for two years, since the crisis started. The language is

:15:14. > :15:15.crisis started. The language is crisis started. The language is

:15:15. > :15:16.very often in sync, everybody very often in sync, everybody

:15:16. > :15:18.very often in sync, everybody very often in sync, everybody

:15:18. > :15:18.agrees that there needs to be a agrees that there needs to be a

:15:18. > :15:20.agrees that there needs to be a negotiated solution, but when you

:15:20. > :15:21.negotiated solution, but when you negotiated solution, but when you

:15:21. > :15:23.negotiated solution, but when you look at it, the situation with the

:15:23. > :15:24.look at it, the situation with the look at it, the situation with the

:15:24. > :15:26.British now talking about providing British now talking about providing

:15:26. > :15:27.British now talking about providing armed vehicles and body armour, the

:15:27. > :15:29.armed vehicles and body armour, the Americans talking about providing

:15:29. > :15:31.Americans talking about providing Americans talking about providing

:15:31. > :15:32.military rations and the Russian military rations and the Russian

:15:32. > :15:34.Government still keeping its Government still keeping its

:15:34. > :15:34.Government still keeping its contracts in terms of arms supplied

:15:34. > :15:36.contracts in terms of arms supplied contracts in terms of arms supplied

:15:36. > :15:37.to the Syrian government, it does to the Syrian government, it does

:15:37. > :15:38.to the Syrian government, it does to the Syrian government, it does

:15:38. > :15:40.seem as if Russia and Britain are seem as if Russia and Britain are

:15:40. > :15:47.seem as if Russia and Britain are on very different sides of the

:15:47. > :15:49.on very different sides of the on very different sides of the

:15:49. > :15:50.Syrian conflict. The air defence Syrian conflict. The air defence

:15:50. > :15:51.Syrian conflict. The air defence weapons which we have been

:15:52. > :15:53.weapons which we have been weapons which we have been

:15:53. > :15:54.supplying to Syria under the supplying to Syria under the

:15:54. > :15:56.supplying to Syria under the existing contract cannot be used in

:15:56. > :15:57.existing contract cannot be used in existing contract cannot be used in

:15:57. > :15:58.this war. They are needed this war. They are needed

:15:58. > :15:59.this war. They are needed legitimately by any country which

:15:59. > :16:00.legitimately by any country which legitimately by any country which

:16:00. > :16:02.is under threat of being attacked. is under threat of being attacked.

:16:03. > :16:04.is under threat of being attacked. And the helicopters, the helicopter

:16:04. > :16:05.And the helicopters, the helicopter And the helicopters, the helicopter

:16:05. > :16:09.And the helicopters, the helicopter repairs and so on that we keep

:16:09. > :16:09.repairs and so on that we keep repairs and so on that we keep

:16:09. > :16:10.hearing about? There was a dispatch hearing about? There was a dispatch

:16:10. > :16:15.hearing about? There was a dispatch of helicopters, but this does not

:16:15. > :16:16.of helicopters, but this does not of helicopters, but this does not

:16:16. > :16:17.make any difference, they have been make any difference, they have been

:16:17. > :16:18.make any difference, they have been shipped there for assembly on the

:16:18. > :16:19.shipped there for assembly on the shipped there for assembly on the

:16:19. > :16:20.shipped there for assembly on the ground, and this would not make any

:16:20. > :16:22.ground, and this would not make any ground, and this would not make any

:16:22. > :16:24.change. The other thing which both change. The other thing which both

:16:24. > :16:25.change. The other thing which both change. The other thing which both

:16:25. > :16:27.sides seem to agree on is that a sides seem to agree on is that a

:16:27. > :16:27.sides seem to agree on is that a sides seem to agree on is that a

:16:27. > :16:28.united Syria is the answer - but united Syria is the answer - but

:16:28. > :16:29.united Syria is the answer - but the big disagreement is about

:16:29. > :16:30.the big disagreement is about the big disagreement is about

:16:30. > :16:31.the big disagreement is about whether or not it is possible for

:16:32. > :16:34.whether or not it is possible for whether or not it is possible for

:16:34. > :16:35.there to be any kind of there to be any kind of

:16:35. > :16:37.there to be any kind of negotiations over a united Syria,

:16:37. > :16:38.negotiations over a united Syria, negotiations over a united Syria,

:16:38. > :16:39.when President Asad has still said when President Asad has still said

:16:40. > :16:40.when President Asad has still said when President Asad has still said

:16:40. > :16:42.when President Asad has still said he has to be part of the talks, so

:16:42. > :16:43.he has to be part of the talks, so he has to be part of the talks, so

:16:43. > :16:45.he has to be part of the talks, so is it still possible for him to in

:16:45. > :16:46.is it still possible for him to in is it still possible for him to in

:16:46. > :16:47.is it still possible for him to in any way lead a united Syria? It is

:16:47. > :16:48.any way lead a united Syria? It is any way lead a united Syria? It is

:16:48. > :16:49.any way lead a united Syria? It is not for me or anybody else to

:16:49. > :16:53.not for me or anybody else to not for me or anybody else to

:16:53. > :16:56.decide, except the Syrian people. decide, except the Syrian people.

:16:56. > :16:57.decide, except the Syrian people. We have been against any

:16:57. > :16:58.We have been against any We have been against any

:16:58. > :17:00.preconditions to stop the violence preconditions to stop the violence

:17:00. > :17:01.preconditions to stop the violence preconditions to stop the violence

:17:01. > :17:01.and to start a dialogue, because we and to start a dialogue, because we

:17:01. > :17:11.and to start a dialogue, because we believe that the first priority is

:17:11. > :17:14.

:17:14. > :17:16.Our main headlines... North Korea Our main headlines... North Korea

:17:16. > :17:18.Our main headlines... North Korea says it is scrapping its non-

:17:18. > :17:19.says it is scrapping its non- says it is scrapping its non-

:17:19. > :17:20.aggression pact with the south aggression pact with the south

:17:20. > :17:21.aggression pact with the south after the UN imposed more sanctions

:17:21. > :17:23.after the UN imposed more sanctions after the UN imposed more sanctions

:17:23. > :17:25.over its nuclear test programme. over its nuclear test programme.

:17:25. > :17:27.over its nuclear test programme. Millions are filing past the coffin

:17:27. > :17:29.Millions are filing past the coffin Millions are filing past the coffin

:17:29. > :17:30.of Venezuela's present, Hugo Chavez, of Venezuela's present, Hugo Chavez,

:17:30. > :17:32.of Venezuela's present, Hugo Chavez, of Venezuela's present, Hugo Chavez,

:17:32. > :17:34.whose funeral is due to start in whose funeral is due to start in

:17:34. > :17:35.whose funeral is due to start in about three hours' time. Let's go

:17:35. > :17:36.about three hours' time. Let's go about three hours' time. Let's go

:17:36. > :17:38.back to that report from Bangladesh, back to that report from Bangladesh,

:17:38. > :17:39.back to that report from Bangladesh, where human rights groups have

:17:39. > :17:40.where human rights groups have where human rights groups have

:17:40. > :17:41.urged the government to provide urged the government to provide

:17:41. > :17:43.urged the government to provide better protection to minority Hindu

:17:43. > :17:43.better protection to minority Hindu better protection to minority Hindu

:17:43. > :17:45.and Buddhist communities, who have and Buddhist communities, who have

:17:45. > :17:50.and Buddhist communities, who have come under attack during protests

:17:50. > :17:51.come under attack during protests come under attack during protests

:17:51. > :17:52.against war crime trials. This against war crime trials. This

:17:52. > :17:54.report from Anbarasan Ethirajan. report from Anbarasan Ethirajan.

:17:54. > :17:55.report from Anbarasan Ethirajan. report from Anbarasan Ethirajan.

:17:55. > :17:57.This is what is left of a village This is what is left of a village

:17:57. > :17:59.This is what is left of a village in southern Bangladesh. None of the

:17:59. > :18:00.in southern Bangladesh. None of the in southern Bangladesh. None of the

:18:00. > :18:01.household items were spared after a household items were spared after a

:18:01. > :18:03.household items were spared after a rampaging Muslim mob vented its

:18:03. > :18:04.rampaging Muslim mob vented its rampaging Muslim mob vented its

:18:04. > :18:05.rampaging Muslim mob vented its fury. It came hours after a senior

:18:05. > :18:07.fury. It came hours after a senior fury. It came hours after a senior

:18:07. > :18:08.Islamist party leader was sentenced Islamist party leader was sentenced

:18:08. > :18:10.Islamist party leader was sentenced to death for murder and torture

:18:10. > :18:11.to death for murder and torture to death for murder and torture

:18:12. > :18:13.committed during the war of committed during the war of

:18:13. > :18:15.committed during the war of independence from Pakistan in 1971.

:18:15. > :18:15.independence from Pakistan in 1971. independence from Pakistan in 1971.

:18:15. > :18:17.Evens coolbox and homework notes of Evens coolbox and homework notes of

:18:17. > :18:19.Evens coolbox and homework notes of children were not spared. The

:18:19. > :18:21.children were not spared. The children were not spared. The

:18:21. > :18:23.beleaguered community is in shock. beleaguered community is in shock.

:18:23. > :18:25.beleaguered community is in shock. -- even school books. This young

:18:25. > :18:27.-- even school books. This young -- even school books. This young

:18:27. > :18:28.mother of two lost everything in the attack.

:18:28. > :18:29.the attack. the attack.

:18:29. > :18:30.TRANSLATION: When we heard they TRANSLATION: When we heard they

:18:31. > :18:32.TRANSLATION: When we heard they were coming, we ran away. They

:18:32. > :18:33.were coming, we ran away. They were coming, we ran away. They

:18:33. > :18:35.destroyed everything and set fire destroyed everything and set fire

:18:35. > :18:37.destroyed everything and set fire destroyed everything and set fire

:18:37. > :18:38.to our house. We ran for our lives, to our house. We ran for our lives,

:18:38. > :18:39.to our house. We ran for our lives, to our house. We ran for our lives,

:18:39. > :18:40.and my children were too scared to and my children were too scared to

:18:40. > :18:41.and my children were too scared to return. We built this small house

:18:41. > :18:42.return. We built this small house return. We built this small house

:18:42. > :18:45.return. We built this small house with lots of difficulty, but now we

:18:45. > :18:46.with lots of difficulty, but now we with lots of difficulty, but now we

:18:46. > :18:47.have lost everything. Even Hindu have lost everything. Even Hindu

:18:47. > :18:50.have lost everything. Even Hindu have lost everything. Even Hindu

:18:50. > :18:51.gods did not escape from the angry gods did not escape from the angry

:18:51. > :18:52.gods did not escape from the angry mob. Hindus constitute around 10%

:18:52. > :18:55.mob. Hindus constitute around 10% mob. Hindus constitute around 10%

:18:55. > :18:56.of the population in this Muslim of the population in this Muslim

:18:56. > :18:57.majority nation. The two majority nation. The two

:18:57. > :18:58.majority nation. The two communities live side by side in

:18:58. > :18:59.communities live side by side in communities live side by side in

:18:59. > :19:00.villages like these. Hundreds of villages like these. Hundreds of

:19:00. > :19:03.villages like these. Hundreds of people came and ransacked this

:19:03. > :19:04.people came and ransacked this village, burning down houses,

:19:04. > :19:05.village, burning down houses, village, burning down houses,

:19:05. > :19:06.breaking the utensils and beating breaking the utensils and beating

:19:06. > :19:08.breaking the utensils and beating up elderly men and women and

:19:08. > :19:09.up elderly men and women and up elderly men and women and

:19:09. > :19:10.up elderly men and women and children. It is not only here in

:19:10. > :19:11.children. It is not only here in children. It is not only here in

:19:12. > :19:12.this village. Houses and temples of this village. Houses and temples of

:19:12. > :19:13.this village. Houses and temples of Hindus and Buddhists came under

:19:13. > :19:14.Hindus and Buddhists came under Hindus and Buddhists came under

:19:15. > :19:16.Hindus and Buddhists came under attack in many parts of the country.

:19:16. > :19:18.attack in many parts of the country. attack in many parts of the country.

:19:18. > :19:19.attack in many parts of the country. The people here are living in fear.

:19:19. > :19:21.The people here are living in fear. The people here are living in fear.

:19:21. > :19:24.Some say the minorities are being Some say the minorities are being

:19:24. > :19:26.attacked because they mostly attacked because they mostly

:19:26. > :19:27.attacked because they mostly support the ruling party, and they

:19:27. > :19:30.support the ruling party, and they support the ruling party, and they

:19:30. > :19:31.are a soft target as well. are a soft target as well.

:19:31. > :19:32.are a soft target as well. TRANSLATION: This should not have

:19:33. > :19:35.TRANSLATION: This should not have TRANSLATION: This should not have

:19:35. > :19:35.happened. We feel sorry about it. happened. We feel sorry about it.

:19:35. > :19:39.happened. We feel sorry about it. happened. We feel sorry about it.

:19:39. > :19:40.It is not in the Holy Koran. It is not in the Holy Koran.

:19:40. > :19:41.It is not in the Holy Koran. Almighty Allah said that nobody

:19:41. > :19:44.Almighty Allah said that nobody Almighty Allah said that nobody

:19:44. > :19:45.should do anything with religion. should do anything with religion.

:19:45. > :19:47.should do anything with religion. People praying here agree with the

:19:47. > :19:48.People praying here agree with the People praying here agree with the

:19:48. > :19:49.correct. They want to maintain the correct. They want to maintain the

:19:49. > :19:53.correct. They want to maintain the communal harmony. The violence is

:19:53. > :19:56.communal harmony. The violence is communal harmony. The violence is

:19:56. > :19:58.blamed on the opposition parties, mostly Jamaat-e-Islami.

:19:58. > :20:00.mostly Jamaat-e-Islami. TRANSLATION: Jamaat-e-Islami in

:20:00. > :20:01.TRANSLATION: Jamaat-e-Islami in TRANSLATION: Jamaat-e-Islami in

:20:01. > :20:02.Bangladesh is a peaceful party, and Bangladesh is a peaceful party, and

:20:02. > :20:04.Bangladesh is a peaceful party, and they do not encourage any violent

:20:04. > :20:06.they do not encourage any violent they do not encourage any violent

:20:06. > :20:06.activities. But people who are activities. But people who are

:20:06. > :20:08.activities. But people who are responsible for these incidents do

:20:08. > :20:09.responsible for these incidents do responsible for these incidents do

:20:09. > :20:10.not belong to Jamaat-e-Islami. They not belong to Jamaat-e-Islami. They

:20:10. > :20:13.not belong to Jamaat-e-Islami. They are members of other political

:20:13. > :20:15.are members of other political parties. As Islamists continue

:20:15. > :20:17.parties. As Islamists continue their protests, Hindus and

:20:17. > :20:18.their protests, Hindus and their protests, Hindus and

:20:19. > :20:20.Buddhists feel insecure, and what Buddhists feel insecure, and what

:20:20. > :20:22.Buddhists feel insecure, and what protection. They say they cannot

:20:22. > :20:23.protection. They say they cannot protection. They say they cannot

:20:23. > :20:28.rebuild their lives unless their rebuild their lives unless their

:20:28. > :20:29.rebuild their lives unless their Muslim neighbours reach out to them.

:20:29. > :20:31.Muslim neighbours reach out to them. Muslim neighbours reach out to them.

:20:31. > :20:32.Staying in that region, India is Staying in that region, India is

:20:32. > :20:33.still an extremely conservative still an extremely conservative

:20:33. > :20:35.still an extremely conservative country, where women are often

:20:35. > :20:36.country, where women are often country, where women are often

:20:36. > :20:37.afraid to discuss their sexuality afraid to discuss their sexuality

:20:37. > :20:38.afraid to discuss their sexuality afraid to discuss their sexuality

:20:38. > :20:39.in the open. But for the past 10 in the open. But for the past 10

:20:39. > :20:41.in the open. But for the past 10 years, one player has been trying

:20:41. > :20:44.years, one player has been trying years, one player has been trying

:20:44. > :20:45.to challenge those taboos. The to challenge those taboos. The

:20:45. > :20:45.to challenge those taboos. The Indian version of the worldwide

:20:46. > :20:47.Indian version of the worldwide show The Vagina Monologues

:20:47. > :20:49.show The Vagina Monologues discusses issues like women's

:20:49. > :20:50.discusses issues like women's discusses issues like women's

:20:50. > :20:51.discusses issues like women's sexuality and rape, but it is still

:20:51. > :20:56.sexuality and rape, but it is still sexuality and rape, but it is still

:20:56. > :20:57.banned in some cities. This report banned in some cities. This report

:20:57. > :20:58.banned in some cities. This report from Rajini Vaidyanathan in Mumbai.

:20:58. > :21:00.from Rajini Vaidyanathan in Mumbai. from Rajini Vaidyanathan in Mumbai.

:21:00. > :21:02.from Rajini Vaidyanathan in Mumbai. This show is all about one thing.

:21:02. > :21:02.This show is all about one thing. This show is all about one thing.

:21:02. > :21:04.This show is all about one thing. They are preparing to go on stage.

:21:04. > :21:06.They are preparing to go on stage. They are preparing to go on stage.

:21:06. > :21:07.How many of you are comfortable How many of you are comfortable

:21:07. > :21:09.How many of you are comfortable with saying the word vagina? The

:21:09. > :21:10.with saying the word vagina? The with saying the word vagina? The

:21:10. > :21:11.play looks at women's sexuality, it play looks at women's sexuality, it

:21:12. > :21:13.play looks at women's sexuality, it contains different sketches, and it

:21:13. > :21:14.contains different sketches, and it contains different sketches, and it

:21:14. > :21:16.first ran in America. Bringing the first ran in America. Bringing the

:21:16. > :21:17.first ran in America. Bringing the first ran in America. Bringing the

:21:17. > :21:19.show to India was not easy. Kissing show to India was not easy. Kissing

:21:19. > :21:20.show to India was not easy. Kissing show to India was not easy. Kissing

:21:20. > :21:21.is rarely seen in films here, and is rarely seen in films here, and

:21:21. > :21:22.is rarely seen in films here, and sex is rarely talked about. The

:21:22. > :21:23.sex is rarely talked about. The sex is rarely talked about. The

:21:23. > :21:24.problem did not come from the problem did not come from the

:21:24. > :21:26.problem did not come from the government, it came from within the

:21:26. > :21:28.government, it came from within the government, it came from within the

:21:28. > :21:29.community. Actors refused to act community. Actors refused to act

:21:29. > :21:31.community. Actors refused to act community. Actors refused to act

:21:31. > :21:33.with me, I had no producers, no with me, I had no producers, no

:21:33. > :21:34.with me, I had no producers, no sponsors and several theatres, like

:21:34. > :21:36.sponsors and several theatres, like sponsors and several theatres, like

:21:36. > :21:37.even the National Centre for even the National Centre for

:21:37. > :21:39.even the National Centre for Performing Arts, and several other

:21:39. > :21:40.Performing Arts, and several other Catholic auditoria, refused to

:21:41. > :21:41.Catholic auditoria, refused to Catholic auditoria, refused to

:21:41. > :21:48.allow us to perform, and still allow us to perform, and still

:21:48. > :21:49.allow us to perform, and still refused to allow us to perform.

:21:49. > :21:50.refused to allow us to perform. refused to allow us to perform.

:21:50. > :21:51.Women were shocked, but once they Women were shocked, but once they

:21:51. > :21:52.Women were shocked, but once they Women were shocked, but once they

:21:52. > :21:53.got going, you could not stop them, got going, you could not stop them,

:21:53. > :21:55.got going, you could not stop them, because women love to talk about

:21:55. > :21:56.because women love to talk about because women love to talk about

:21:56. > :21:59.the vagina! The show discusses the vagina! The show discusses

:21:59. > :22:01.the vagina! The show discusses issues such as rape, domestic

:22:01. > :22:03.issues such as rape, domestic violence and genital mutilation,

:22:03. > :22:03.violence and genital mutilation, violence and genital mutilation,

:22:03. > :22:05.topics which many Indians feel topics which many Indians feel

:22:05. > :22:07.uncomfortable about bringing into uncomfortable about bringing into

:22:07. > :22:08.uncomfortable about bringing into the open. It is fitting perhaps

:22:08. > :22:09.the open. It is fitting perhaps the open. It is fitting perhaps

:22:09. > :22:09.that the ten-year anniversary of that the ten-year anniversary of

:22:09. > :22:10.that the ten-year anniversary of The Vagina Monologues in India

:22:11. > :22:12.The Vagina Monologues in India The Vagina Monologues in India

:22:12. > :22:14.The Vagina Monologues in India comes at a time when the country is

:22:14. > :22:16.comes at a time when the country is debating attitudes towards women.

:22:16. > :22:17.debating attitudes towards women. debating attitudes towards women.

:22:17. > :22:17.debating attitudes towards women. But why does it have to take the

:22:17. > :22:19.But why does it have to take the But why does it have to take the

:22:19. > :22:20.brutal gang rape of a paramedic...? brutal gang rape of a paramedic...?

:22:20. > :22:23.brutal gang rape of a paramedic...? And other short monologue has been

:22:23. > :22:23.And other short monologue has been And other short monologue has been

:22:23. > :22:26.And other short monologue has been added to the show, dedicated to the

:22:26. > :22:29.added to the show, dedicated to the added to the show, dedicated to the

:22:29. > :22:30.victim of the Delhi gang grape. victim of the Delhi gang grape.

:22:30. > :22:33.victim of the Delhi gang grape. When we performed this show in

:22:33. > :22:34.When we performed this show in When we performed this show in

:22:34. > :22:36.January in Delhi, the experience January in Delhi, the experience

:22:37. > :22:37.January in Delhi, the experience was absolutely surreal for me,

:22:37. > :22:38.was absolutely surreal for me, was absolutely surreal for me,

:22:38. > :22:41.was absolutely surreal for me, because I really sensed a kind of

:22:42. > :22:43.because I really sensed a kind of because I really sensed a kind of

:22:43. > :22:44.energy from the audience. And there energy from the audience. And there

:22:44. > :22:45.energy from the audience. And there energy from the audience. And there

:22:45. > :22:46.was anger which was so palpable, it was anger which was so palpable, it

:22:46. > :22:48.was anger which was so palpable, it was almost scary. It plays to

:22:48. > :22:48.was almost scary. It plays to was almost scary. It plays to

:22:49. > :22:54.packed audiences of both women and packed audiences of both women and

:22:54. > :22:55.packed audiences of both women and men across India. Excellent drama.

:22:55. > :23:01.men across India. Excellent drama. men across India. Excellent drama.

:23:01. > :23:02.men across India. Excellent drama. This is for all women. People know

:23:02. > :23:05.This is for all women. People know This is for all women. People know

:23:05. > :23:05.more about this, and they will more about this, and they will

:23:05. > :23:06.more about this, and they will start respecting women. It makes

:23:07. > :23:08.start respecting women. It makes start respecting women. It makes

:23:08. > :23:09.you think about the current issues you think about the current issues

:23:09. > :23:11.you think about the current issues and how you actually treat women.

:23:11. > :23:11.and how you actually treat women. and how you actually treat women.

:23:11. > :23:14.and how you actually treat women. In the decade it has been running

:23:14. > :23:14.In the decade it has been running In the decade it has been running

:23:14. > :23:16.in India, attitudes towards women in India, attitudes towards women

:23:16. > :23:17.in India, attitudes towards women have barely changed. This show is

:23:17. > :23:18.have barely changed. This show is have barely changed. This show is

:23:18. > :23:23.playing its part in putting women playing its part in putting women

:23:23. > :23:25.playing its part in putting women at the centre of the discussion.

:23:25. > :23:28.at the centre of the discussion. at the centre of the discussion.

:23:28. > :23:31.Another kind of performance now, Another kind of performance now,

:23:31. > :23:32.Another kind of performance now, and the team behind War Horse

:23:32. > :23:33.and the team behind War Horse and the team behind War Horse

:23:33. > :23:34.and the team behind War Horse brought World War 1 to life, using

:23:34. > :23:36.brought World War 1 to life, using brought World War 1 to life, using

:23:36. > :23:39.puppetry. Now, it has turned its puppetry. Now, it has turned its

:23:39. > :23:40.puppetry. Now, it has turned its talents to a more magical setting,

:23:40. > :23:43.talents to a more magical setting, Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's

:23:43. > :23:43.Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream. John Maguire reports.

:23:44. > :23:45.Dream. John Maguire reports. Shakespearean actors have always

:23:45. > :23:49.Shakespearean actors have always Shakespearean actors have always

:23:49. > :23:50.come in various shapes and sizes, come in various shapes and sizes,

:23:50. > :23:54.come in various shapes and sizes, but 2ft tall and wouldn't? Now,

:23:54. > :23:55.but 2ft tall and wouldn't? Now, that's different. This performance

:23:55. > :23:56.that's different. This performance that's different. This performance

:23:56. > :24:05.in Bristol features actors and her in Bristol features actors and her

:24:05. > :24:07.and made puppets performing and made puppets performing

:24:07. > :24:07.and made puppets performing and made puppets performing

:24:07. > :24:16.together. There is lady in the feet, together. There is lady in the feet,

:24:16. > :24:17.together. There is lady in the feet, together. There is lady in the feet,

:24:17. > :24:18.so they will swing. -- lead. Bosch so they will swing. -- lead. Bosch

:24:18. > :24:19.so they will swing. -- lead. Bosch so they will swing. -- lead. Bosch

:24:19. > :24:21.one giant step for man, one small one giant step for man, one small

:24:21. > :24:24.one giant step for man, one small stagger for a puppet. For the

:24:24. > :24:25.stagger for a puppet. For the audience, seeing is believing.

:24:25. > :24:26.audience, seeing is believing. audience, seeing is believing.

:24:26. > :24:28.Every body knows that puppets are Every body knows that puppets are

:24:28. > :24:29.Every body knows that puppets are made of wood, cloth, metal or

:24:30. > :24:31.made of wood, cloth, metal or made of wood, cloth, metal or

:24:31. > :24:32.whatever. But if you're in a whatever. But if you're in a

:24:32. > :24:32.whatever. But if you're in a whatever. But if you're in a

:24:32. > :24:34.theatre, and you see a puppet show, theatre, and you see a puppet show,

:24:34. > :24:35.theatre, and you see a puppet show, theatre, and you see a puppet show,

:24:35. > :24:36.and it works, in the audience, you and it works, in the audience, you

:24:36. > :24:37.and it works, in the audience, you imagine that the puppet is alive.

:24:38. > :24:38.imagine that the puppet is alive. imagine that the puppet is alive.

:24:38. > :24:40.imagine that the puppet is alive. It isn't, you know it isn't, but

:24:40. > :24:41.It isn't, you know it isn't, but It isn't, you know it isn't, but

:24:41. > :24:42.It isn't, you know it isn't, but you give it life. Much of that

:24:42. > :24:44.you give it life. Much of that you give it life. Much of that

:24:44. > :24:46.falls to the actors combining their falls to the actors combining their

:24:46. > :24:47.falls to the actors combining their falls to the actors combining their

:24:47. > :24:48.skills with that of a puppeteer, as skills with that of a puppeteer, as

:24:48. > :24:50.skills with that of a puppeteer, as flesh and blood come face-to-face

:24:50. > :24:52.flesh and blood come face-to-face flesh and blood come face-to-face

:24:52. > :24:52.flesh and blood come face-to-face with wood and paint. It has been a

:24:53. > :24:53.with wood and paint. It has been a with wood and paint. It has been a

:24:53. > :24:55.with wood and paint. It has been a challenge and a half, but quite an

:24:55. > :24:57.challenge and a half, but quite an challenge and a half, but quite an

:24:57. > :24:58.challenge and a half, but quite an exciting one. As an actor, you are

:24:58. > :24:59.exciting one. As an actor, you are exciting one. As an actor, you are

:24:59. > :25:00.used to thinking internally and used to thinking internally and

:25:00. > :25:02.used to thinking internally and thinking about your motivation and

:25:02. > :25:03.thinking about your motivation and thinking about your motivation and

:25:03. > :25:03.your lines and everything, and then your lines and everything, and then

:25:03. > :25:05.your lines and everything, and then your lines and everything, and then

:25:05. > :25:06.all of a sudden, you have got this all of a sudden, you have got this

:25:06. > :25:07.all of a sudden, you have got this extra being, which you have to

:25:07. > :25:08.extra being, which you have to extra being, which you have to

:25:08. > :25:12.extra being, which you have to channel all of that through. So, it

:25:12. > :25:12.channel all of that through. So, it channel all of that through. So, it

:25:13. > :25:13.has been quite interesting. There has been quite interesting. There

:25:13. > :25:16.has been quite interesting. There is a kind of prejudice about

:25:16. > :25:17.is a kind of prejudice about is a kind of prejudice about

:25:17. > :25:18.puppetry, which I kind of hurt puppetry, which I kind of hurt

:25:18. > :25:20.puppetry, which I kind of hurt myself, but working with these

:25:20. > :25:20.myself, but working with these myself, but working with these

:25:20. > :25:21.myself, but working with these puppets has been amazing. It is not

:25:21. > :25:23.puppets has been amazing. It is not puppets has been amazing. It is not

:25:23. > :25:25.puppets has been amazing. It is not so much a separate thing, like a

:25:25. > :25:26.so much a separate thing, like a so much a separate thing, like a

:25:26. > :25:28.so much a separate thing, like a pure puppetry show, and it is all

:25:28. > :25:28.pure puppetry show, and it is all pure puppetry show, and it is all

:25:28. > :25:29.pure puppetry show, and it is all about the puppet - the public has

:25:29. > :25:31.about the puppet - the public has about the puppet - the public has

:25:31. > :25:32.about the puppet - the public has become an extension of us. The Old

:25:33. > :25:33.become an extension of us. The Old become an extension of us. The Old

:25:33. > :25:35.become an extension of us. The Old Vic Theatre is one of the oldest in

:25:35. > :25:36.Vic Theatre is one of the oldest in Vic Theatre is one of the oldest in

:25:36. > :25:39.Vic Theatre is one of the oldest in the UK, and the puppets in the play

:25:39. > :25:41.the UK, and the puppets in the play are described as up-to-the-minute,

:25:41. > :25:42.are described as up-to-the-minute, are described as up-to-the-minute,

:25:42. > :25:43.17th century technology. This is 17th century technology. This is

:25:43. > :25:44.17th century technology. This is 17th century technology. This is

:25:44. > :25:45.not a puppet show, and it is not not a puppet show, and it is not

:25:45. > :25:46.not a puppet show, and it is not apply with actors and props. The

:25:46. > :25:47.apply with actors and props. The apply with actors and props. The

:25:47. > :25:48.apply with actors and props. The key is that the actors and the

:25:48. > :25:50.key is that the actors and the puppets worked together,

:25:50. > :25:51.puppets worked together, puppets worked together,

:25:51. > :25:54.interacting. There are also lots of interacting. There are also lots of

:25:54. > :25:55.interacting. There are also lots of different types of... I think that

:25:55. > :25:58.different types of... I think that different types of... I think that

:25:58. > :25:59.different types of... I think that is might you to get off. The hand

:25:59. > :26:00.is might you to get off. The hand is might you to get off. The hand

:26:00. > :26:02.itself is based on the classic itself is based on the classic

:26:02. > :26:04.itself is based on the classic puppets of Japan, operated with

:26:04. > :26:05.puppets of Japan, operated with puppets of Japan, operated with

:26:05. > :26:06.this ingenious set of leavers. This this ingenious set of leavers. This

:26:06. > :26:07.this ingenious set of leavers. This this ingenious set of leavers. This

:26:07. > :26:08.can be learned by an actor without can be learned by an actor without

:26:08. > :26:10.can be learned by an actor without years and years of training.

:26:11. > :26:11.years and years of training. years and years of training.

:26:11. > :26:13.Preview audiences have given the Preview audiences have given the

:26:13. > :26:15.Preview audiences have given the Preview audiences have given the

:26:15. > :26:16.show a big hand. And after its show a big hand. And after its

:26:16. > :26:18.show a big hand. And after its Bristol run, the actors and puppets

:26:18. > :26:18.Bristol run, the actors and puppets Bristol run, the actors and puppets

:26:18. > :26:25.Bristol run, the actors and puppets will be heading to America - no

:26:25. > :26:25.will be heading to America - no will be heading to America - no

:26:25. > :26:27.strings attached. Our main headline strings attached. Our main headline

:26:27. > :26:28.strings attached. Our main headline strings attached. Our main headline

:26:28. > :26:29.- North Korea has announced that it - North Korea has announced that it

:26:29. > :26:32.- North Korea has announced that it is ending all non-aggression pacts

:26:32. > :26:33.is ending all non-aggression pacts is ending all non-aggression pacts

:26:33. > :26:35.with South Korea, in retaliation with South Korea, in retaliation

:26:35. > :26:36.with South Korea, in retaliation with South Korea, in retaliation

:26:36. > :26:37.for a new round of United Nations for a new round of United Nations

:26:37. > :26:39.for a new round of United Nations sanctions which were imposed after

:26:39. > :26:40.sanctions which were imposed after sanctions which were imposed after

:26:40. > :26:41.the latest nuclear test. The the latest nuclear test. The

:26:41. > :26:42.the latest nuclear test. The country also said it was closing

:26:42. > :26:44.country also said it was closing country also said it was closing

:26:44. > :26:46.the main border crossing between the main border crossing between

:26:46. > :26:46.the main border crossing between the countries, and it said the

:26:46. > :26:48.the countries, and it said the the countries, and it said the

:26:48. > :26:49.north-south hot line would be cut north-south hot line would be cut