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:00:00. > :00:07.Hello, this is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

:00:08. > :00:10.After a near 30-year battle, the families of those who died

:00:11. > :00:12.at Hillsborough will find out this morning whether anyone

:00:13. > :00:18.It follows two separate enquires into what happened on the day

:00:19. > :00:35.of the match and whether there was a cover up afterwards.

:00:36. > :00:38.Good morning, it's Wednesday the 28th of June.

:00:39. > :00:42.One of the UK's most senior police officers says

:00:43. > :00:45.that a reduction in stop-and-search has led to an increase

:00:46. > :00:55.Victims tell Breakfast more needs to be done.

:00:56. > :01:06.Very angry. Can see it in my eyes. This has got to stop. This knife

:01:07. > :01:08.thing's got to stop. Are you paying thousands of pounds

:01:09. > :01:11.too much in hidden fees The regulator is to announce

:01:12. > :01:14.a crackdown on firms that manage our money but why

:01:15. > :01:18.are we still getting a raw deal? In sport...

:01:19. > :01:19.Not again. England lose to

:01:20. > :01:20.Germany on penalties. Nathan Redmond's miss means

:01:21. > :01:23.they fail to make the final of the Under-21 European

:01:24. > :01:38.Championship. I'm here to place an early-morning

:01:39. > :01:42.football with the guys from Man V Fat to see how teamwork has helped

:01:43. > :01:44.men like this and 3000 more around the country lose a combined total of

:01:45. > :01:54.30 tons in wake. -- to play some. For England, Wales and Northern

:01:55. > :01:59.Ireland some rain on the cards, some of it will be heavy but as

:02:00. > :02:03.temperatures rise we could have thundery downpours. The dryers

:02:04. > :02:05.conditions today are likely to be in Scotland. More details in 15 minutes

:02:06. > :02:07.-- driest conditions. The families of those who died

:02:08. > :02:11.at Hillsborough will find out later this morning whether anyone

:02:12. > :02:14.will face criminal charges. An inquest ruled last year

:02:15. > :02:17.that the 96 Liverpool fans who died at the stadium in Sheffield in 1989

:02:18. > :02:20.were unlawfully killed. Our North of England correspondent

:02:21. > :02:32.Judith Moritz reports. # Walk on,

:02:33. > :02:35.with hope in your heart... It was a moment of history,

:02:36. > :02:38.the inquest's finding last year that 96 Liverpool

:02:39. > :02:40.fans were unlawfully For their families,

:02:41. > :02:43.it was justice, but their legal Steve Kelly lost his brother

:02:44. > :02:47.Michael in the disaster. He's spent the 28 years since then

:02:48. > :02:50.calling for those responsible There's got to be

:02:51. > :02:56.this accountability. It's paramount in this whole case

:02:57. > :02:59.to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough

:03:00. > :03:02.and you know, to truly let The fans were killed

:03:03. > :03:11.when the terraces at the Sheffield ground became overcrowded

:03:12. > :03:15.during the 1989 FA Cup semifinal. Since 2012, there have been

:03:16. > :03:17.two criminal inquiries Operation Resolve investigated

:03:18. > :03:23.the day of the disaster. Offences considered include gross

:03:24. > :03:30.negligence manslaughter. One of those waiting

:03:31. > :03:32.to hear whether he will face charges is former

:03:33. > :03:34.Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield,

:03:35. > :03:36.who was the South Yorkshire The police watchdog, the IPCC,

:03:37. > :03:41.investigated cover-up allegations, It considered offences including

:03:42. > :03:49.misconduct in a public office and perverting

:03:50. > :03:52.the course of justice. The former West Yorkshire chief

:03:53. > :03:55.constable, Sir Norman Bettison, has revealed that he's been treated

:03:56. > :03:58.as a suspect by the IPCC. It isn't known whether

:03:59. > :04:03.he wail face charges. Hundreds of investigators have been

:04:04. > :04:05.working from these offices for the last four years

:04:06. > :04:09.at a cost of ?100 million. There is an expectation that

:04:10. > :04:12.charges will be brought, after such a long wait

:04:13. > :04:27.and such large-scale effort. That decision will be announced to

:04:28. > :04:30.the families at 11am this morning. We will keep you in touch with that

:04:31. > :04:32.through the day on the BBC for you. Computer systems around the world

:04:33. > :04:35.have been hit by a major cyber-attack affecting banks,

:04:36. > :04:37.retailers, energy firms The companies have been

:04:38. > :04:40.told their computers will remain Experts who have examined the code

:04:41. > :04:45.say in some ways it's more sophisticated than the Wannacry

:04:46. > :04:48.virus used in a global attack last Labour is to table an amendment

:04:49. > :04:53.to the Queen's Speech calling for more spending on the police

:04:54. > :04:56.and fire services. to the 1% cap on public sector pay

:04:57. > :05:00.rises. Iain Watson joins us from

:05:01. > :05:12.Westminster. Good morning to you once again,

:05:13. > :05:17.Iain. Labour are unlikely to win this one so what is the gameplan?

:05:18. > :05:21.You're right, Dan, Labour want to win the argument rather than the

:05:22. > :05:26.vote because Theresa May on Monday signed the deal with those ten DUP

:05:27. > :05:29.MPs from Northern Ireland, so is she should have the votes in the bag to

:05:30. > :05:34.defeat Labour but what Labour want to do is first say if you can find

:05:35. > :05:38.?1 billion for Northern Ireland to stay in power, can't you find some

:05:39. > :05:42.cash to prevent public spending cuts elsewhere in the UK? They're aiming

:05:43. > :05:45.to make Conservative MPs feel uncomfortable, some of those who

:05:46. > :05:49.lost their seat at the election saying on the doorsteps people were

:05:50. > :05:53.saying that pay restraint had gone on for too long so what Labour are

:05:54. > :05:57.trying to do is force Conservative MPs to nail their colours to the

:05:58. > :06:05.mast and vote down the proposal to lift the public sector paid gap.

:06:06. > :06:09.Jeremy Corbyn is looking to invest more in public services after

:06:10. > :06:13.Grenfell, his opponents say he is politicising the issue but it hasn't

:06:14. > :06:17.hurt him in the opinion polls and in response the Conservatives said we

:06:18. > :06:22.have protected police spending but if you want to protect public

:06:23. > :06:26.services you need a stronger economy and that is something that Labour

:06:27. > :06:27.can't deliver. Iain, thanks, speak to you later.

:06:28. > :06:29.Sinn Fein has accused the Democratic Unionist Party

:06:30. > :06:32.of failing to give any ground in talks to restore devolved

:06:33. > :06:36.Sinn Fein has accused the Democratic Unionist Party

:06:37. > :06:39.of failing to give any ground in talks to restore devolved

:06:40. > :06:50.Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower fire, Theresa May has called

:06:51. > :06:53.for a major national investigation into the use of cladding

:06:54. > :06:56.Every one of the samples tested from 95 buildings across England

:06:57. > :07:09.Our reporter Simon Jones is in west London for us this morning.

:07:10. > :07:19.What more can you tell us about these safety tests? Well, 95

:07:20. > :07:23.buildings tested so far and all have failed. The thing that strikes you

:07:24. > :07:27.hear two weeks on is just how many questions remain about what

:07:28. > :07:33.happened, why are these buildings now failing these new tests? Why did

:07:34. > :07:38.the fire at Grenfell Tower take hold so drastically? How many people

:07:39. > :07:42.actually died? Will we ever know the final total? Outside this church,

:07:43. > :07:45.this has become one of the focal points for the grief with people

:07:46. > :07:51.putting up posters and bringing flowers. The posters have people on

:07:52. > :07:55.sadly now presumed to have died. To give you a sense of where we are

:07:56. > :08:00.this morning, that same Methodist church and a short distance away is

:08:01. > :08:06.what remains of the tower. Still a shocking sight to see it two weeks

:08:07. > :08:13.after the tragedy took place. A big focus of this investigation is going

:08:14. > :08:17.to be cladding, tests have failed on high-rise buildings across the

:08:18. > :08:21.country but we've found nine NHS trusts have been found to have

:08:22. > :08:26.buildings with cladding similar to Grenfell Tower. We've been told

:08:27. > :08:31.schools will be asked to check any buildings four storeys or higher,

:08:32. > :08:34.that might not be the tests we've seen on high-rise buildings but they

:08:35. > :08:38.will have to look at what the cladding, if any, is made up of.

:08:39. > :08:41.There's confusion among local authorities about what they should

:08:42. > :08:46.be looking for because they say now they're not clear about what is safe

:08:47. > :08:50.and what is deemed unsafe. Simon, thanks very much. We will be

:08:51. > :08:54.there through the morning speaking to people who had to leave their

:08:55. > :08:54.homes because of what happened at the tower.

:08:55. > :08:56.Services providing support for people who are older

:08:57. > :08:59.and disabled face more cuts despite extra money being put

:09:00. > :09:03.That's according to research by the directors of adult social

:09:04. > :09:07.The report says more than two thirds of local authorities had to dip

:09:08. > :09:10.into their financial reserves last year to meet increasing demand.

:09:11. > :09:14.The government says it's provided more funding and will consult on how

:09:15. > :09:22.A major annual study of public opinion in England,

:09:23. > :09:25.Scotland and Wales suggests that almost half the population favour

:09:26. > :09:31.raising taxes to increase spending on public services.

:09:32. > :09:33.Nearly 3,000 people were interviewed for the British Social

:09:34. > :09:35.Attitudes Survey between last July and November.

:09:36. > :09:37.Researchers say there's evidence people are more Eurosceptic

:09:38. > :09:40.after the referendum than at any point in the last 33 years.

:09:41. > :09:44.One of the UK's rarest birds of prey is heading towards extinction

:09:45. > :09:49.There are just four breeding pairs of hen harriers left,

:09:50. > :09:52.and numbers are declining fast across the rest of the UK.

:09:53. > :09:54.Even in the bird's traditional stronghold of Scotland,

:09:55. > :09:57.The reasons include illegal persecution and destruction

:09:58. > :10:17.They are beautiful creatures, aren't they?

:10:18. > :10:22.If you are just waking up then you might want to wake up a little bit

:10:23. > :10:23.more for this. A pedestrian has had a miraculous

:10:24. > :10:27.escape after being struck by a bus The moment was captured on CCTV,

:10:28. > :10:30.as Ben Moore reports. might find these pictures

:10:31. > :10:34.upsetting. It is disturbing to watch but he

:10:35. > :10:44.survived and he's OK. A quiet morning in reading until

:10:45. > :10:49.this spectacular accident happened. The man on the receiving end of the

:10:50. > :10:53.bus, Simon Smith, should by rights be seriously injured or worse. So

:10:54. > :10:58.it's nothing short of astonishing when he calmly gets up and walks

:10:59. > :11:02.into a nearby bar. Simon Khan to talk to the BBC for legal reasons

:11:03. > :11:09.but his friends here have been in touch. We call called Simon a few

:11:10. > :11:17.hours after the day of the accident and yeah, he was in a lot of pain.

:11:18. > :11:20.He was still in shock basically, he couldn't believe what happened. I

:11:21. > :11:26.can't believe Simon got up, dusted himself off and walked away from it.

:11:27. > :11:31.It's a miracle he is alive. The scars the bus left as it hit this

:11:32. > :11:36.wall coming to a stop are there for all to see. Many here think it

:11:37. > :11:40.careered around the corner because of a mechanical failure, but that's

:11:41. > :11:45.now the subject of an ongoing investigation. Reading buses says it

:11:46. > :11:50.is shocked by the incident and sends it regrets to Simon. It's sharing

:11:51. > :11:56.the bus's on-board CCTV with police. As you might expect this footage has

:11:57. > :11:57.now gone viral. The main comment, most people admire how Simon just

:11:58. > :12:12.kept calm and carried on. It is terrifying to watch, isn't it,

:12:13. > :12:17.and yet he was all right and he walked away from it. Shall we show

:12:18. > :12:22.you again? Walking along the street, bus comes around the corner... I'm

:12:23. > :12:26.not going to make sound effects. He gets hit so hard, so many things

:12:27. > :12:30.could have gone so wrong with that and for him to walk away is

:12:31. > :12:38.incredible. It still has to hurt, though, hasn't it? Good morning!

:12:39. > :12:42.Sorry, I can't bring you good news either to calm everything down. In a

:12:43. > :12:48.world that is constantly changing, some things remain the same. Do you

:12:49. > :12:54.know what Dan is talking about? Death, taxes and penalty shootouts.

:12:55. > :12:58.And England losing to Germany in a semi-final on penalties. It was so

:12:59. > :13:02.disappointing last night, such high hopes for our England under the team

:13:03. > :13:05.but when you compare the set-ups, the England and German set-ups,

:13:06. > :13:09.we've talked about the youth teams and the young players coming through

:13:10. > :13:14.the England setup and Saint Georges Park and how successful it is, it is

:13:15. > :13:18.progress but an interesting stat, of the team playing for England, there

:13:19. > :13:23.were 200 Premier League appearances within that team, the German team,

:13:24. > :13:30.1100, more than 1000 Bundesliga appearances. Experience. They play

:13:31. > :13:36.more. But also they were beaten by a better team. Germany deserved to go

:13:37. > :13:37.through. Yes, and the Germans were resilient and confident and have a

:13:38. > :13:39.swagger about them! It was the Germans, in the semis,

:13:40. > :13:43.on penalties, again. It finished 2-2 after extra time

:13:44. > :13:47.and Nathan Redmond's miss ended the England under-21s' run

:13:48. > :13:49.in the European Championship the England under-21s' run in

:13:50. > :13:52.the European Championship in Poland. Germany will play

:13:53. > :13:54.Spain in the final. A plan for England to play

:13:55. > :13:57.a friendly in Thailand to win backing for their 2018

:13:58. > :14:00.World Cup it was a form of bribery, according

:14:01. > :14:02.to a former FA Chairman. It's criticised in Fifa's

:14:03. > :14:04.investigation into alleged corruption into the bidding process

:14:05. > :14:12.for the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. England's cricketers recovered

:14:13. > :14:14.from their opening loss They thrashed Pakistan in Leicester

:14:15. > :14:20.with a record-breaking total, And Novak Djokovic will be

:14:21. > :14:26.hoping for some sunshine today as he gets

:14:27. > :14:27.ready for Wimbledon. He managed only one game

:14:28. > :14:40.of his match in Eastbourne yesterday It's a part of his buildup, he

:14:41. > :14:44.decided to go to Eastbourne because he needed to work on his grasscourt

:14:45. > :14:49.game and then low and behold, the weather got in his way! It might

:14:50. > :14:54.help him for Wimbledon, both! Somebody else would know better than

:14:55. > :14:59.that. If he gets it back together he is formidable, once it clicks. But

:15:00. > :15:03.if. It's interesting he has chosen Andre Agassi to work with because

:15:04. > :15:06.he's a man that got it back together again! The rebuild! The weather is

:15:07. > :15:16.really looking miserable, Carol? I trying to put a positive spin on

:15:17. > :15:20.things because a lot of us need and want the rain. I've been speaking to

:15:21. > :15:23.farmers who have been crying out for it. You won't be disappointed. We

:15:24. > :15:28.saw a lot of it yesterday in parts of the UK. This morning waking up to

:15:29. > :15:32.some surface spray on the roads. So if you are travelling take extra

:15:33. > :15:37.care. You can see the amount of rain we have had through the night. Some

:15:38. > :15:41.of that has been torrential. Even a couple of inches in a short amount

:15:42. > :15:45.of time. This morning it still is reining in the south-west and

:15:46. > :15:51.through parts of Wales, the Midlands, at the Lincolnshire, where

:15:52. > :15:54.it is still heavy. At the start of the day as well. These are the

:15:55. > :15:58.temperatures we are looking at at eight a.m.. Not far from this at the

:15:59. > :16:02.moment. In the northern England and Northern Ireland, a lot of cloud.

:16:03. > :16:06.Some of it coming into the east of Northern Ireland. For Scotland a lot

:16:07. > :16:10.of cloud around, but for Scotland today you will see the best of the

:16:11. > :16:14.Web. We will see some brighter skies coming along. Through the day we

:16:15. > :16:19.have an onshore flow down the east coast, so it will be quite windy at

:16:20. > :16:23.times. Locally we will have gales and that close inland, making it

:16:24. > :16:29.feel cold, combined with the rain. There will be sent dry interludes in

:16:30. > :16:32.the south-east. As temperatures rise we could get some thundery

:16:33. > :16:39.downpours. Northern Ireland is trying. 16 in Belfast, in Aberdeen

:16:40. > :16:43.highs of about 13. Through this evening and overnight we continue

:16:44. > :16:49.with the rain. You can see it around this low pressure. Still quite windy

:16:50. > :16:52.as well. There will be dry interludes. Still dry in Scotland,

:16:53. > :16:57.with the odd shower. Not a cold night. These are the values you can

:16:58. > :17:01.expect in towns and cities. Tomorrow we start with a rain. Tomorrow it is

:17:02. > :17:07.edging further north. Although it will be wet, the area will just be

:17:08. > :17:11.wet, except for the south-west. Scotland, the far north of northern

:17:12. > :17:16.England and Northern Ireland. We hang on to the rain in the south.

:17:17. > :17:23.Still mighty, up to 20. As we push further north under the rain we have

:17:24. > :17:26.about 12 - 15. Into Friday the low pressure is still very much driving

:17:27. > :17:30.the weather, but you can see how it starts to curl around and it is

:17:31. > :17:37.sinking south. A squeeze on Isa buyers indicating it will be windy

:17:38. > :17:41.in the east and the west. Here is the band of rain. It will ease in

:17:42. > :17:45.parts of Wales and England, as it sinks towards the south-east. Not

:17:46. > :17:53.getting there until much later in the day. 22 in London, 19 in Cardiff

:17:54. > :17:55.and kind in Scotland and Northern Ireland another reversal of

:17:56. > :18:01.fortunes. The drier and brighter day. This weekend drier and brighter

:18:02. > :18:11.sums it up. It won't be bone dry, but not as wet as today.

:18:12. > :18:18.That's good news. Thank you! She always sprinkle is a little bit

:18:19. > :18:21.of positivity! Ben's joined us to have a look at the papers.

:18:22. > :18:29.Would you like to kick things off? Thank you so much! The Daily

:18:30. > :18:35.Telegraph talks about banks for getting lessons of the past,

:18:36. > :18:39.apparently risking a new financial crisis by allowing a sharp increase

:18:40. > :18:42.in car loans, credit card debts and that according to the governor of

:18:43. > :18:45.the Bank of England, warning yesterday.

:18:46. > :18:56.The front page of the Times. Top teams split over Brexit. And that's

:18:57. > :18:59.Miranda Kerr on the front. ?6 million of Jules handed to US

:19:00. > :19:05.investigators, who suspect there may have been bought with stolen money.

:19:06. > :19:10.The Guardian looks at those pictures from Eastbourne. Their main story is

:19:11. > :19:17.about social mobility policies. They say failing to reduce inequalities

:19:18. > :19:21.between the rich and poor. That's according to a report by the social

:19:22. > :19:28.mobility commission. The Mirror, a double blow for

:19:29. > :19:33.pensions. Women and younger workers face crisis in their retirement. And

:19:34. > :19:35.one of the stars of Poldark saying she will stay a fiery redhead for

:19:36. > :19:42.good. And the latest on the decision, the

:19:43. > :19:47.final heartbreak. Devastation as the European court refuses to save their

:19:48. > :19:52.sick child. I want to pick up on that story you

:19:53. > :19:58.mentioned. As I delve inside the Telegraph. You touched on it, that

:19:59. > :20:03.issue of car loans. In the same way that the housing crisis all unfolded

:20:04. > :20:07.because people couldn't pay their mortgages, there's a real and on

:20:08. > :20:12.many experts and the Bank of England about whether we are weaned too much

:20:13. > :20:17.and whether if there is a rising interest rates people won't be able

:20:18. > :20:22.to pay those car loans back, leading to a lot of second-hand cars on the

:20:23. > :20:28.market. And it all starts to unravel. What the Bank of England

:20:29. > :20:32.has told the banks is they have to put more money aside to cover any

:20:33. > :20:36.bad loans. I just want to mention this story we touched on yesterday,

:20:37. > :20:41.this is staggering fine for Google. 2.4 billion euros, for overly

:20:42. > :20:47.promoting its own shopping services over those of its rivals. Google

:20:48. > :20:53.says it has to change. We spoke a moment ago about the

:20:54. > :20:57.England Under-21 is and teams and how you compare them. I want to talk

:20:58. > :21:02.about one particular team this morning, the All Blacks. There is a

:21:03. > :21:06.brilliant piece in the Times this morning about the ethos, the

:21:07. > :21:10.heritage. We talk about the All Blacks as being one of the greatest

:21:11. > :21:19.teams ever. They are not perfect, but they have something like a 77%

:21:20. > :21:23.win rate since 1973. They talk about the humility, from senior to June

:21:24. > :21:26.you. They do it thing at the end of training where everybody tidies

:21:27. > :21:29.their own kit, everybody carries there own, they don't walk around

:21:30. > :21:33.with headphones on, the eat together and talk and bring their families

:21:34. > :21:40.into the team environment. What's it called? Sweeping the shed. Whoever

:21:41. > :21:43.you are, however brilliant, you take your turn at sweeping the shed after

:21:44. > :21:52.training. I think we should do the equivalent after every show, tidy

:21:53. > :21:55.the sofa. I think we should, it is one of my

:21:56. > :21:57.pet hates! I also offered to bring in my own

:21:58. > :22:03.equipment. I don't want to cause any great

:22:04. > :22:08.scare, but a fishing expert is saying that a great white shark has

:22:09. > :22:21.been seen hunting repeatedly off Hampshire and warns holidaymakers to

:22:22. > :22:27.be on their guard. Just a warning. Has Jaws arrived on British shores?

:22:28. > :22:32.We hope not! Just to say, sharks are very important.

:22:33. > :22:35.A life lesson for us all, thank you very much.

:22:36. > :22:39.First introduced as a way of combating crime, the power

:22:40. > :22:42.to stop-and-search members of the public is one of the most

:22:43. > :22:44.contentious aspects of British policing.

:22:45. > :22:47.In England and Wales, the use of stop-and-search has more

:22:48. > :22:50.than halved in the past five years, but one of England's most senior

:22:51. > :22:53.police officers says that's led to a rise in knife crime.

:22:54. > :22:58.Breakfast's Tim Muffett has been speaking to some of those affected.

:22:59. > :23:06.Everytime I go down, people are walking past and it is just a normal

:23:07. > :23:14.day, but that's where my life ended, where his life ended. He was at

:23:15. > :23:19.college, studying law... Just so horrible. On the same street in

:23:20. > :23:23.Leicester where Amy's son Tyler was stabbed to death in 2015, Sean was

:23:24. > :23:30.attacked one month before. They stabbed me once in my back, and if I

:23:31. > :23:36.didn't survive this could be my mum sitting here feeling exactly that.

:23:37. > :23:39.They both believed jail sentences for knife possession should be

:23:40. > :23:44.longer and that police should be stopping and searching more people,

:23:45. > :23:50.more often. If the stop-and-search was more present, then I believe my

:23:51. > :24:00.son would still be here today. Dairy angry. You can see it in my eyes.

:24:01. > :24:05.This has got to stop. This knife thing has got to stop. Across

:24:06. > :24:08.England and Wales, police are stopping and searching far fewer

:24:09. > :24:14.people than they used to. In 2011 there were more than 100,000 stop

:24:15. > :24:19.and searches, according to the most recent Home Office figures that

:24:20. > :24:23.number has now dropped by 65%. Those figures relate to searches for

:24:24. > :24:28.offensive weapons. Since 2011 overall knife crime has fallen, but

:24:29. > :24:33.in the past two years it has gone up by almost 13%. Stop-and-search

:24:34. > :24:39.legally done is absolutely vital part of our armoury. So we should be

:24:40. > :24:44.doing more of it. Like all police chiefs, Mike Barton was told in 2014

:24:45. > :24:47.by the Home Office that stop-and-search needed reform. It

:24:48. > :24:51.should be intelligence led, more effectively targeted. You think

:24:52. > :24:55.there's a link between national decrease in and search and the

:24:56. > :25:01.recent increase in knife crime? We have not done any hard science to

:25:02. > :25:05.say that there is a direct link, however, we are all bright people

:25:06. > :25:10.and we can all work it out and you've got to say that it's a

:25:11. > :25:16.reasonable hypothesis. These two are 16. They are members of Break the

:25:17. > :25:20.Chain, a London-based group of volunteers. Carrying a knife is

:25:21. > :25:24.normalised, like wearing socks. How do you feel about carrying a knife?

:25:25. > :25:29.They believe talking to people is the best way to dissuade them from

:25:30. > :25:36.carrying knives. Cairo has himself been stopped and searched. He says

:25:37. > :25:41.the police handled it badly. I felt embarrassed. When I asked them why I

:25:42. > :25:46.was searched they looked nervous. Underused. I've never been in

:25:47. > :25:49.trouble with the police. If you drive past and stare at me I'm going

:25:50. > :25:56.to be nervous. Stop-and-search needs to be dealt with better. West

:25:57. > :26:00.Midlands Police training centre and a stop-and-search exercise for

:26:01. > :26:05.officers. This force believes fewer searches can be just as effective.

:26:06. > :26:09.It isn't about numbers. Since 2011- 2012 we have reduced the amount of

:26:10. > :26:14.stop and searches we conduct, but the arrest rate from that remains

:26:15. > :26:19.exactly the same, so it would appear now that we are targeting the right

:26:20. > :26:23.people. What grounds have you got the search? The Home Office says it

:26:24. > :26:27.supports stop-and-search when carried out properly and that there

:26:28. > :26:30.is no proven link between a number of searches and levels of knife

:26:31. > :26:34.crime. But as a police tactic, it remains controversial.

:26:35. > :26:37.Later we'll be speaking to a member of the race equality organisation,

:26:38. > :26:39.the Runnymede Trust, looking at the issue of racial

:26:40. > :26:54.Still to come this morning: Have you ever heard of Man versus Fat?

:26:55. > :26:59.It's a football league for obese men.

:27:00. > :27:02.Kat's at the Soccer in the City Stadium in Manchester for us.

:27:03. > :27:12.Good morning! Good morning. Yes, forget your bikini diet and your

:27:13. > :27:15.pure juice detox, this is how these guys lose weight. I am here to play

:27:16. > :27:19.a early-morning football. These guys have tried everything to lose

:27:20. > :27:24.weight, but it turns out team work is the way to do it. There are teams

:27:25. > :27:28.from Stoke, Birmingham and Manchester and in a little while and

:27:29. > :27:32.will speak to some of these people about how they have gone about

:27:33. > :27:33.losing a combined total of 30 tons in weight. That's coming up later.

:27:34. > :30:53.Now the news, travel and weather where you are.

:30:54. > :30:57.Plenty more on our website at the usual address.

:30:58. > :31:06.Hello, this is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

:31:07. > :31:14.With confusion over who's looking after the displaced residents

:31:15. > :31:16.of Grenfell Tower, we'll ask a community spokesperson

:31:17. > :31:19.about what life is like two weeks on from the fire.

:31:20. > :31:23.Support is rising for higher taxes to fund public

:31:24. > :31:25.services, according to the latest British Social Attitudes report.

:31:26. > :31:30.And Matt Allwright's made his career cracking down

:31:31. > :31:37.now he's back with a new series of Watchdog.

:31:38. > :31:40.He'll join us later with a new addition to his team,

:31:41. > :31:48.Leather heard of her! Yes you have! -- never heard of her!

:31:49. > :31:52.But now a summary of this morning's main news.

:31:53. > :31:55.A decision on whether people and organisations will face criminal

:31:56. > :31:58.disaster will be announced this morning.

:31:59. > :32:00.The Crown Prosecution Service will reveal its intentions

:32:01. > :32:02.at a meeting with victims' relatives this morning.

:32:03. > :32:05.96 Liverpool fans died when the terraces at the Sheffield

:32:06. > :32:12.ground became overcrowded during the 1989 FA Cup semi final.

:32:13. > :32:15.Stephen Kelly's brother, Michael, died in the disaster.

:32:16. > :32:19.It's paramount in this whole case to give the families respite

:32:20. > :32:22.and the survivors of Hillsborough and you know, to truly let

:32:23. > :32:30.News on that throughout the day for you across the BBC.

:32:31. > :32:33.Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower fire, Theresa May has called

:32:34. > :32:36.for a major national investigation into the use of potentially

:32:37. > :32:37.flammable cladding on high rise buildings.

:32:38. > :32:41.Every one of the samples tested from 95 buildings across England

:32:42. > :32:45.Last night the government confirmed all school buildings over four

:32:46. > :32:47.storeys tall are having their external cladding analysed

:32:48. > :32:55.Labour says it will challenge MPs today to oppose further austerity.

:32:56. > :32:59.The party will call for more spending on the police and fire

:33:00. > :33:01.services as an amendment to the Queen's Speech,

:33:02. > :33:05.as well as an end to the 1% cap on public sector pay rises.

:33:06. > :33:08.The Conservatives say only they will deliver the economy needed

:33:09. > :33:16.to properly fund the emergency services.

:33:17. > :33:19.Computer systems around the world have been hit by a major

:33:20. > :33:21.cyber-attack affecting banks, retailers, energy firms

:33:22. > :33:24.The companies have been told their computers will remain

:33:25. > :33:28.Experts who have examined the code say it's more sophisticated

:33:29. > :33:32.than the virus used in a global attack last month, which badly hit

:33:33. > :33:38.Services providing support for people who are older

:33:39. > :33:41.and disabled face more cuts, despite extra money being put

:33:42. > :33:44.That's according to research by the directors of adult social

:33:45. > :33:49.The report says more than two thirds of local authorities had to dip

:33:50. > :33:52.into their financial reserves last year to meet increasing demand.

:33:53. > :33:55.The government says it's provided more funding and will consult on how

:33:56. > :34:04.One of the UK's rarest birds of prey is heading towards extinction

:34:05. > :34:08.There are just four breeding pairs of hen harriers left,

:34:09. > :34:11.and numbers are declining fast across the rest of the UK.

:34:12. > :34:13.Even in the bird's traditional stronghold of Scotland,

:34:14. > :34:19.The reasons include illegal persecution and destruction

:34:20. > :34:40.You may have heard the phrase "til the cows home."

:34:41. > :34:42.Well, it happened to five-year-old Bella from Cheshire

:34:43. > :34:48.when she played her ukulele to a herd of cows in Llandudno.

:34:49. > :34:54.Here she is with just a few of the herd watching,

:34:55. > :34:57.and before too long, she was joined by many more

:34:58. > :35:08.Like a junior George Formby. Like the Pied Piper of cows. The usual

:35:09. > :35:15.ukelele technique as well when it seems to be working! Look at that!

:35:16. > :35:22.Who knew the cows love a ukelele? Now I do! I might go and try that

:35:23. > :35:26.myself. Have you got one? Know, I've got a guitar, will that work the

:35:27. > :35:32.same? You've got to play it like Bella is playing, side on, a bit of

:35:33. > :35:38.that. Excellent. I like the way she dressed as Little Red Book had. She

:35:39. > :35:44.said I can't be here all my, mummy! -- Little red Riding Hood. Gorgeous,

:35:45. > :35:51.beautiful! I hope you recorded that at home everybody! I'm sure we will

:35:52. > :35:55.replay it! I'm sure. Talking about replaying, a familiar story in the

:35:56. > :36:06.football, an England team losing to Germany in the semifinals on

:36:07. > :36:11.penalties. They had been practising every day this month, not making a

:36:12. > :36:16.big deal about it. The Germans say they didn't do any practice. That's

:36:17. > :36:21.annoying, isn't it? I don't know if it's true, looking at them I think

:36:22. > :36:25.they probably had. Did you see the piece of paper in the German

:36:26. > :36:30.keeper's sock? He knew which way each one was going to go. Based on

:36:31. > :36:36.what they have done in the past? Yes. Research is key. Your sock as

:36:37. > :36:39.well, that's what I like. Just so happens! Good morning, everyone!

:36:40. > :36:42.Once again, England have lost the semi-final of a football

:36:43. > :36:46.This time it was the Under 21s European Championship,

:36:47. > :36:49.the lead through Chelsea's Tammy Abraham.

:36:50. > :36:51.But the Germans levelled and after extra time,

:36:52. > :36:54.Nathan Redmond penalty was saved and the side followed the fate

:36:55. > :37:02.of the senior teams in 1990 and 1996.

:37:03. > :37:08.We've been practising for weeks but in the end of the two players you

:37:09. > :37:11.would put props on to score every time, the goalkeeper makes a great

:37:12. > :37:16.save so we'll have to take that. It's been a real team effort and I

:37:17. > :37:20.think we can be pleased with a lot of things we've done. And in the end

:37:21. > :37:22.we've lost on a penalty shootout and next time we need to be better for

:37:23. > :37:22.it. Plenty of other football to look

:37:23. > :37:25.forward to! It's only 25 days since Real Madrid

:37:26. > :37:28.won the Champions League but this season's competition

:37:29. > :37:30.is already under way! Welsh champions The New Saints lost

:37:31. > :37:33.2-1 to Europa FC of Gibraltar Scott Quigley got them back

:37:34. > :37:38.into the game with this brilliant effort but they conceded

:37:39. > :37:40.a second goal. Fifa officials investigating alleged

:37:41. > :37:44.corruption were told plans for England to play a friendly

:37:45. > :37:47.in Thailand to win backing for their own World Cup bid

:37:48. > :37:49.were a form of bribery. The former FA Chairman

:37:50. > :37:51.Geoff Thompson made the admission when interviewed

:37:52. > :37:54.during a Fifa enquiry into the bidding process

:37:55. > :37:56.for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, England's women have

:37:57. > :38:02.got their cricket World Cup campaign back on track after a 107-run

:38:03. > :38:05.victory in a rain-affected match Natalie Sciver and captain

:38:06. > :38:08.Heather Knight both hit their first one-day international centuries

:38:09. > :38:11.as the hosts reached a record Pakistan were well behind

:38:12. > :38:26.in their chase when rain saw It was exciting to watch, watching

:38:27. > :38:30.her at the other end of striking it like that and it's the type of

:38:31. > :38:35.cricket we want to play, exciting to show what we can do. That can do

:38:36. > :38:39.that and to see her do that is obviously brilliant from our

:38:40. > :38:42.perspective but it's a great performance obviously but there's a

:38:43. > :38:42.lot more cricket to be played in this tournament.

:38:43. > :38:44.Novak Djokovic had entered the Aegon International

:38:45. > :38:47.in Eastbourne with hopes of gaining some much-needed grass court

:38:48. > :38:51.but spent a lot of yesterday twiddling his thumbs.

:38:52. > :38:54.The former world number one had taken the first game

:38:55. > :38:56.against Canada's Vasek Pospisil when the rains came

:38:57. > :39:03.While, the current world number one Andy Murray pulled out

:39:04. > :39:06.of an exhibition match at the Hurlingham Club in London,

:39:07. > :39:11.He is still expected to play at the Club on Friday before

:39:12. > :39:13.beginning the defence of his Wimbledon title

:39:14. > :39:16.on Centre Court on Monday afternoon.

:39:17. > :39:23.I know he wanted to play that game but his team decided it was better

:39:24. > :39:27.to get an extra day's rest, he's got a busy fortnight coming up. You're

:39:28. > :39:35.there next week? Next week and the week after we will be there alive.

:39:36. > :39:37.And Carol? Yes, and Carol. Great, see you later on this morning.

:39:38. > :39:40.Today marks two weeks since the fire at Grenfell Tower in west London.

:39:41. > :39:43.At least 79 people are known to have died in the blaze,

:39:44. > :39:48.A lot has happened in the last 14 days, with scenes of anger

:39:49. > :39:51.and despair but also hope, resilience and a fearsome community

:39:52. > :39:59.Holly Hamilton looks at what we know so far.

:40:00. > :40:07.At its height, 40 fire engines and more than 200 firefighters battled

:40:08. > :40:11.the blaze. Dozens were rescued but despite their efforts, 79 people are

:40:12. > :40:15.now known to have died. The fire started in a fridge freezer but what

:40:16. > :40:19.caused it to spread so quickly will be key to the investigation. The

:40:20. > :40:25.focus so far has been on the cladding. Samples from 95 towers in

:40:26. > :40:29.32 local authority areas in England have all failed by a safety tests.

:40:30. > :40:35.The government was criticised for its slow response to the tragedy,

:40:36. > :40:39.but has since announced a full public enquiry, ?5 million fund for

:40:40. > :40:44.the victims and a promise to rehouse all those affected in the local

:40:45. > :40:48.area. The tragedy has evoked a huge outpouring of support. Millions of

:40:49. > :40:50.pounds have been donated as well as clothing, food and other essentials.

:40:51. > :40:53.Simon Jones is in west London for us this morning.

:40:54. > :41:00.Good morning to you once again, Simon. Can I start by asking about

:41:01. > :41:09.this countrywide investigation into high-rise cladding. Where are we

:41:10. > :41:13.with that at the moment? So far 95 high-rise buildings from 32

:41:14. > :41:19.different local authorities have had their cladding tested and there's

:41:20. > :41:22.been a 100% failure rate. Local authorities are being told to

:41:23. > :41:27.prioritise the buildings they have most concerned about but it appears

:41:28. > :41:30.the tests are extremely stringent, perhaps more strong than the tests

:41:31. > :41:36.that were taking place before the cladding was put on the buildings.

:41:37. > :41:42.It's not just high-rises that are being tested, we're also told nine

:41:43. > :41:46.NHS trusts have buildings that have similar cladding to Grenfell Tower,

:41:47. > :41:50.they will need to be tested. Schools are being told to check any

:41:51. > :41:55.buildings Oar storeys or taller, perhaps not for the testing but look

:41:56. > :42:00.at what the cladding is made of to see if there's any concerns about

:42:01. > :42:04.bad gash four. What about the residents, we will be speaking to

:42:05. > :42:08.them live later on, but two weeks after the terrible incidents, what

:42:09. > :42:14.is the general feeling among residents? -- four. I think the mood

:42:15. > :42:19.has changed. I spent a lot of time there over the last couple of weeks.

:42:20. > :42:24.Initially it was shock, then Greece, then anger and I think now once

:42:25. > :42:30.again what we're hearing is that residents want to get their voices

:42:31. > :42:34.heard -- then grief. We got the nearby Notting Hill Methodist church

:42:35. > :42:38.and this has become a focus for some of the outpouring of grief, you've

:42:39. > :42:42.got flowers and posters showing pictures of the many now feared

:42:43. > :42:45.dead. Lots of people in the local community got together and they've

:42:46. > :42:49.written an open letter saying they want to be an active part of the

:42:50. > :42:54.public enquiry, they don't want to be brushed aside. What they want to

:42:55. > :42:57.make sure it is their voices are heard and on top of this they're

:42:58. > :43:02.demanding anyone found to be responsible for what happened in the

:43:03. > :43:06.tower, and those that didn't deal with the aftermath very well, the

:43:07. > :43:11.local authorities, should be brought to justice. So a very strong feeling

:43:12. > :43:15.here two weeks on, perhaps a moment of reflection but people here saying

:43:16. > :43:20.they're determined their voices are heard. Simon, thank you for that

:43:21. > :43:24.this morning. Simon Jones, nearby to Grenfell Tower. Wheel bespeak into a

:43:25. > :43:28.number of residents later in the programme to get more information

:43:29. > :43:35.about how the feeling has changed in the two weeks -- we'll be speaking

:43:36. > :43:40.to. Will have people who were in the tower and those who had friends

:43:41. > :43:44.there. -- we'll have. And all so we'll get something from those

:43:45. > :43:47.trying to improve safety at the building. If you've looked out of

:43:48. > :43:51.the building chances are it's not looking great. Not the best but

:43:52. > :43:53.Carol is here with a positive spin. Rain is crucial, rain is your

:43:54. > :44:02.friend? Lots of people are crying out for

:44:03. > :44:05.rain and we've seen a lot of rain tonight and it is raining heavily in

:44:06. > :44:10.some parts of England and Wales in particular. If you are travelling,

:44:11. > :44:14.expect a lot of surface water and spray on the roads. On the radar

:44:15. > :44:18.picture you can see the extent of the rainfall. At the moment it is

:44:19. > :44:22.heaviest in parts of east Anglia and Lincolnshire, but it is rotating

:44:23. > :44:26.around low pressure, succumbing in across eastern parts of England,

:44:27. > :44:30.Wales and down into the south-west. Even across central parts of

:44:31. > :44:34.southern England with got the rain. In between there's a lot of cloud

:44:35. > :44:37.and it is quite muggy start to the day again. These are the

:44:38. > :44:43.temperatures you can expect. Not far off now. In northern England again a

:44:44. > :44:46.lot of cloud and a couple of showers. Some of the rain edging

:44:47. > :44:50.into Northern Ireland. For Scotland you will have the driest weather

:44:51. > :44:54.today. That doesn't mean you have wall-to-wall blue skies. There will

:44:55. > :44:58.be a lot of cloud, with brighter breaks, and drizzly bits and pieces.

:44:59. > :45:02.The other thing is down the east coast we have an onshore wind, so

:45:03. > :45:08.things will feel cold, especially if you have the rain. The wind just

:45:09. > :45:12.blowing inland. Across some parts with exposure there will be gales.

:45:13. > :45:17.The rain will advance northwards through the day. We will have some

:45:18. > :45:22.bright interludes develop. As temperatures rise that could spark

:45:23. > :45:26.thundery downpours. Northern Ireland drying off as the rain pushes away.

:45:27. > :45:29.Scotland remaining largely dry through the afternoon. Through this

:45:30. > :45:35.evening and overnight still the wind will be a feature, pushing down

:45:36. > :45:39.through the Irish Sea and the English Channel. You can see how the

:45:40. > :45:43.rain migrates northwards, getting across northern England, in true

:45:44. > :45:47.Scotland and back into Northern Ireland, curling across southern

:45:48. > :45:55.areas as well. Temperature wise, 11- 12. Tomorrow a game we have a bit of

:45:56. > :45:59.a change. The difference pushing up the Scotland at Northern Ireland.

:46:00. > :46:04.Trifle England and Wales, except for in the south-west, where we have

:46:05. > :46:08.that rain. In any sunshine we could have up to 20 Celsius as we move

:46:09. > :46:15.further north. It will feel cooler in the rain, 12- 15. On the

:46:16. > :46:19.coastline it will feel colder still. As we had from Thursday into Friday

:46:20. > :46:23.the low pressure is still very much driving the weather and is with us

:46:24. > :46:27.for much of the week, but you can see that it starts to swing round

:46:28. > :46:31.and will then pull back. As it does so it is dragging the weather front

:46:32. > :46:34.with it, so the rain around the weather front will start to pull

:46:35. > :46:38.back towards the south-east. Behind it brighter skies. The wind changes

:46:39. > :46:46.to a cooler direction and we have high as in London of 22 Celsius.

:46:47. > :46:48.Thank you. We shall see you throughout the morning.

:46:49. > :46:52.Carol finding optimism in the rain. In a few minutes, the financial

:46:53. > :46:55.regulator is set to announce a crackdown on the hidden fees

:46:56. > :47:04.charged on our pensions. Open question. What's going on?

:47:05. > :47:09.Explain! It's a bit complicated, but I will

:47:10. > :47:13.do my best. This is scrutiny for people who manage our money. Our

:47:14. > :47:17.investments, pensions, all of that. When we take out a pension they

:47:18. > :47:21.invest it in the stock market and we hope they will give us a return at

:47:22. > :47:26.will fund our retirement. The market is worth about ?7 trillion, is worth

:47:27. > :47:29.thinking about. A lot of money. That's why the regulator is getting

:47:30. > :47:37.involved and they say it involves all sorts of things, where it's a

:47:38. > :47:40.personal or work pension. Maybe it is some of the people who have a

:47:41. > :47:44.defined contribution pension scheme. You put your money in, every month,

:47:45. > :47:48.that's invested in the stock market and you hope you get a bigger

:47:49. > :47:54.return. The regulator says it is vital but there's not much scrutiny

:47:55. > :47:57.of the charges and fees imposed on these and where you make an

:47:58. > :48:02.investment it could cost you thousands of pounds in costs and

:48:03. > :48:05.that's really important. They say it is about improving transparency. Let

:48:06. > :48:09.me talk you through some of the numbers. It affects three quarters

:48:10. > :48:14.of all UK households that have a pension. And as more and more of us

:48:15. > :48:19.get involved in where that money is going, it is very crucial that we

:48:20. > :48:22.keep a night on how the money is being invested. The Financial

:48:23. > :48:25.Conduct Authority wants better scrutiny of those charges and fees

:48:26. > :48:30.and says we simply aren't getting value for money, we don't really

:48:31. > :48:33.have any idea of where the money is being invested and what these we are

:48:34. > :48:40.asked to pay on it. This is a staggering statistic. The research

:48:41. > :48:43.suggests you could be ?14 and ?400 worse off from making a single bad

:48:44. > :48:47.decision about where your money is put and that I think is a staggering

:48:48. > :48:55.amount of money and that's what the originator wants to come down on.

:48:56. > :49:01.They are big decisions. How can you make them and know what will happen?

:49:02. > :49:05.At the moment there's no way of getting clarity on the transparency.

:49:06. > :49:09.It is interesting to raise the ?400 issue. Say someone said to you, on

:49:10. > :49:14.your fund we will charge you a quarter of a percent every year, all

:49:15. > :49:17.we can charge you 1% every year and a little bit more for a transaction.

:49:18. > :49:22.It doesn't seem like a big difference. .75% of the difference,

:49:23. > :49:28.but it could equate to ?14,000 worse off over the 20 years that your

:49:29. > :49:32.pension is invested, or it is very clear that you have to look at the

:49:33. > :49:36.small print and the regulator says it has to be very clear. They will

:49:37. > :49:39.clamp down on this old boys club, we all of the money is sloshing around,

:49:40. > :49:43.they are charging fees without anyone giving it any real scrutiny.

:49:44. > :49:44.So they will make it transparent and clear and people can make the

:49:45. > :49:47.decisions. Thank you.

:49:48. > :49:51.You know when you throw a trillion around? By Matt Stieger said

:49:52. > :49:57.something I always remembered. -- maths teacher. 1,000,000,000th

:49:58. > :50:02.second is 12 days, a billion seconds is 32 years and 1 trillion seconds

:50:03. > :50:07.is about 31,000 years. I've never heard of it like that.

:50:08. > :50:14.Then you get the scale of how much bigger they are.

:50:15. > :50:19.Thank you. By Matt Stieger! -- maths teacher.

:50:20. > :50:22.If you're a man who's a bit on the larger side,

:50:23. > :50:25.you might have tried a few diets and weight loss groups,

:50:26. > :50:27.which end up being targeted at women.

:50:28. > :50:30.But now a football league, specifically for overweight men has

:50:31. > :50:41.Kat Downes is pitch side in Manchester for us this morning.

:50:42. > :50:50.It has an interesting name as well. Yes, it is called Man V Fat. If you

:50:51. > :50:56.want to lose weight you might go to the gym, joined join a zumba class.

:50:57. > :51:02.For these people none of that worked. What has worked is playing

:51:03. > :51:06.football with a group of guys. You might be a bit overweight and you

:51:07. > :51:10.want to shed the pounds. It works if you do it together. In a minute I

:51:11. > :51:14.will talk to some of these super slimmers and find out more about

:51:15. > :51:21.their stories. Here is a quick look at how it works.

:51:22. > :51:30.This is my first season and I've lost 3.5 stone. I am enjoying life

:51:31. > :51:37.better. I feel I am getting more out of it. Hang on! There you go. IT HAS

:51:38. > :51:45.MADE ME A LOT FITTER. And a lot thinner. I am still rubbish at

:51:46. > :51:50.football! Rubbish or the next Reynaldo! That doesn't matter here.

:51:51. > :51:55.What counts is shedding the stones. As well as goals on the pitch...

:51:56. > :52:02.Teams get bonus calls for the amount of weight they lose together. I

:52:03. > :52:05.really struggled to lose weight through the years, joined a lot of

:52:06. > :52:10.the commercial weight loss organisations and obviously so many

:52:11. > :52:14.of the people voted those are women and it just felt it wasn't quite

:52:15. > :52:18.right for me. There was a lot of talk about fitting into a bikini and

:52:19. > :52:21.so really it was about finding something that was suitable for men,

:52:22. > :52:26.something that would really empower them, something that would help them

:52:27. > :52:30.to lose weight and that's where Man V Fat football came from. It works,

:52:31. > :52:36.thanks to teamwork. When we first started we had a tiny room and it

:52:37. > :52:40.ended up with the whole team cramming into this tiny rooms,

:52:41. > :52:44.because they were supporting each other and cheering each other on and

:52:45. > :52:47.wanting each other to do well. This league in Manchester isn't the only

:52:48. > :52:53.one. There are 24 a the country. That's 3000 men getting out, playing

:52:54. > :52:57.football and losing weight and in around 1.5 years they've lost a

:52:58. > :53:07.combined total of more than 30 times! -- 30 times. You've lost four

:53:08. > :53:10.kilos this week! Ross has lost 4.5 stone since January. Before this he

:53:11. > :53:15.found there was nothing accessible for guys like him who wanted to lose

:53:16. > :53:19.weight. You are looking at your men's fitness which is about a

:53:20. > :53:23.sixpack, getting your abs and work out and show your muscles. Those

:53:24. > :53:27.lads, we are nowhere near that. We need to lose weight confidently and

:53:28. > :53:30.if it is having a group of lads taking the Mickey out of you and

:53:31. > :53:36.doing it that way it's perfect, absolutely perfect. With the tons

:53:37. > :53:37.ticking away, it proves that whatever works for you is the best

:53:38. > :53:44.in the battle for the bulge. This leak has only been going for

:53:45. > :53:47.about a year and a half and these guys already have a lot of great

:53:48. > :53:51.stories about how much weight they have lost. I am going to talk to the

:53:52. > :53:54.founder. Banks are having us this morning and getting these guys out

:53:55. > :53:58.to play football. -- thanks for having us. We have pictures of how

:53:59. > :54:01.you looked before you lost weight, equals it was about your personal

:54:02. > :54:05.journey that led this, wasn't it? Exactly. When I was trying to lose

:54:06. > :54:08.weight myself I found all of the support groups and products were

:54:09. > :54:12.aimed exclusively at women and I wanted to find something that would

:54:13. > :54:16.actually support meant and provide accountability and support for

:54:17. > :54:20.normal guys around the country. How does it work? Your goals on the

:54:21. > :54:25.pitch are combined with weight loss. How does it work? Before each game

:54:26. > :54:29.the players weigh in and the weight loss goals they accrue during those

:54:30. > :54:33.weigh ins are added to the goals they score on the pitch and

:54:34. > :54:37.essentially that's how we create our tables. There are obviously leads

:54:38. > :54:40.across the country now for men who want to lose weight and who are

:54:41. > :54:44.looking for something that's a bit Morse eatable for them. It seems to

:54:45. > :54:48.be working brilliantly. And thanks to Karen, who is the dietician here.

:54:49. > :54:55.This isn't just about playing 30 minutes of football week, it is

:54:56. > :55:00.about making a life change? It is. Traditionally men's seed dieting as

:55:01. > :55:07.something women do. So obviously the increased physical exercise is

:55:08. > :55:10.important, but we have to underpin that with three regular meals,

:55:11. > :55:14.reducing snacking, those sorts of things and I am there to support

:55:15. > :55:18.those lifestyle changes. So this is a way for men to get into weight

:55:19. > :55:21.loss, not just losing weight by taking exercise, it is about making

:55:22. > :55:27.life changes and changing the way you live and eat and how you think

:55:28. > :55:31.as well. We just heard from Ross. Sorry to interrupt you, but a great

:55:32. > :55:35.story from you as well. What was it that prompted you to make the

:55:36. > :55:40.change? There were quite a few things. Health reasons, things like

:55:41. > :55:44.that. One of them, mainly, was around wanting to go out and do

:55:45. > :55:50.skydive and there are weight limits, about 13.5 stone. That's what I was

:55:51. > :55:56.aiming for. Stupidly my mum and my wife said that if I lost weight they

:55:57. > :55:59.would come with me. Now I am at 15 stone, so they are panicking, but

:56:00. > :56:04.I'm getting close to it now! So you only have half a stone to go before

:56:05. > :56:08.your wife and mother jump out of a plane with you? Yes, and I hope they

:56:09. > :56:12.remember it! I can't wait. Proof if it is needed that perhaps a

:56:13. > :56:15.competitive edge is just what you need to lose the weight. The stakes

:56:16. > :56:23.couldn't be higher. Congratulations on losing 4.5 stone? Since January

:56:24. > :56:24.the 20th, so just over five months. It turns out that

:56:25. > :56:29.teamwork is the key to shedding the pounds.

:56:30. > :56:33.Really quickly. If he does lose all of that weight, is he still allowed

:56:34. > :56:37.to play on the team? I think once you have lost the

:56:38. > :56:42.weight, do your team try to dump you? Because you get extra goals for

:56:43. > :56:47.losing the weight, so once you are skinny they say, hang on, you aren't

:56:48. > :56:53.scoring the goal is? One of our guys has dropped below

:56:54. > :56:59.the limit, but he can still play for us and get goals on the pitch. We

:57:00. > :57:03.want to break up the team! We're champions! Champions in weight

:57:04. > :57:06.loss and on the pitch. A combined victory.

:57:07. > :57:10.Good to hear. I was worried for him. An important

:57:11. > :57:13.question you were worried about. More on that later.

:57:14. > :00:32.Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.

:00:33. > :00:40.Hello, this is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

:00:41. > :00:43.After a near 30-year battle, the families of those who died

:00:44. > :00:46.at Hillsborough will find out this morning whether anyone

:00:47. > :00:50.It follows two separate enquires into what happened on the day

:00:51. > :01:07.of the match and whether there was a cover-up afterwards.

:01:08. > :01:13.Good morning, it's Wednesday, 28th of June.

:01:14. > :01:28.Two weeks on from the Grenfell fire disaster and we learn what it's like

:01:29. > :01:30.for those who have left their homes. officers says that a reduction

:01:31. > :01:35.in stop-and-search has led Victims tell Breakfast

:01:36. > :01:38.more needs to be done. Are you paying thousands of pounds

:01:39. > :01:50.too much in hidden fees The regulator is to announce

:01:51. > :01:53.a crackdown on firms that manage our money but why

:01:54. > :02:00.are we still getting a raw deal? In sport...

:02:01. > :02:02.Not again. England lose to

:02:03. > :02:04.Germany on penalties. Nathan Redmond's miss means

:02:05. > :02:07.they fail to make the final of the Under-21 European

:02:08. > :02:20.Championship. I'm here playing some early morning

:02:21. > :02:25.football with these guys to find out how team work has helped these men

:02:26. > :02:27.and 3000 others like them around the country lose a combined total of 30

:02:28. > :02:29.tons in weight. For England, Wales and Northern

:02:30. > :02:33.Ireland some rain on the cards, some of it will be heavy

:02:34. > :02:36.but as temperatures rise The driest conditions today

:02:37. > :02:41.are likely to be in Scotland. The families of those who died

:02:42. > :02:52.at Hillsborough will find out later this morning whether anyone

:02:53. > :02:55.will face criminal charges. An inquest ruled last year

:02:56. > :02:58.that the 96 Liverpool fans who died at the stadium in Sheffield in 1989

:02:59. > :03:01.were unlawfully killed. Our North of England correspondent

:03:02. > :03:07.Judith Moritz reports. # Walk on, walk on,

:03:08. > :03:11.with hope in your heart...# It was a moment of history,

:03:12. > :03:14.the inquest's finding last year that 96 Liverpool

:03:15. > :03:16.fans were unlawfully For their families,

:03:17. > :03:25.it was justice, but their legal Steve Kelly lost his brother

:03:26. > :03:29.Michael in the disaster. He's spent the 28 years since then

:03:30. > :03:32.calling for those responsible There's got to be

:03:33. > :03:38.this accountability. It's paramount in this whole case

:03:39. > :03:41.to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough

:03:42. > :03:44.and you know, to truly let The fans were killed

:03:45. > :03:56.when the terraces at the Sheffield ground became overcrowded

:03:57. > :03:59.during the 1989 FA Cup semifinal. Since 2012, there have been

:04:00. > :04:01.two criminal inquiries Operation Resolve investigated

:04:02. > :04:05.the day of the disaster. Offences considered include gross

:04:06. > :04:13.negligence manslaughter. One of those waiting

:04:14. > :04:16.to hear whether he'll face charges is former

:04:17. > :04:18.Chief Superintendent David Duckenfield,

:04:19. > :04:20.who was the South Yorkshire The police watchdog, the IPCC,

:04:21. > :04:24.investigated cover-up allegations, It considered offences including

:04:25. > :04:32.misconduct in a public office and perverting

:04:33. > :04:35.the course of justice. The former West Yorkshire chief

:04:36. > :04:38.constable, Sir Norman Bettison, has revealed that he's been treated

:04:39. > :04:42.as a suspect by the IPCC. It isn't known whether

:04:43. > :04:46.he wail face charges. Hundreds of investigators have been

:04:47. > :04:48.working from these offices for the last four years

:04:49. > :04:51.at a cost of ?100 million. There is an expectation that

:04:52. > :04:54.charges will be brought, after such a long wait

:04:55. > :04:56.and such large-scale effort. That decision will be

:04:57. > :05:05.announced to the families We'll have coverage of that across

:05:06. > :05:15.the BBC this morning. Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower

:05:16. > :05:19.fire, Theresa May has called for a major national investigation

:05:20. > :05:19.into the use of cladding Every one of the samples tested

:05:20. > :05:24.from 95 buildings across England Our reporter Simon Jones is in west

:05:25. > :05:38.London for us this morning. You can see people have been laying

:05:39. > :05:42.tributes to the victims at this church. Good morning, Simon.

:05:43. > :05:45.Yesterday it was announced an independent panel has been assembled

:05:46. > :05:51.to advise on safety measures. What more can you tell us? Some

:05:52. > :05:56.controversy about that this morning, it is chaired by Sir Ken Knight, a

:05:57. > :06:00.former London fire commissioner, and in a previous investigation into a

:06:01. > :06:05.fire in Camberwell that killed six, he advised against the retrospective

:06:06. > :06:10.fitting of sprinklers in the high-rise buildings in all cases

:06:11. > :06:16.because he said sometimes it's not practical economically or it's not

:06:17. > :06:20.viable to do that. What we've got here, though, two weeks on our many

:06:21. > :06:25.questions still left unanswered, how many people died in the fire, why

:06:26. > :06:30.are so many buildings now failing the safety test? To give you a sense

:06:31. > :06:34.of where we are, this is the church that's become a site for many people

:06:35. > :06:39.to pay tributes, to bring flowers, posters of those who have lost their

:06:40. > :06:45.lives. Then it's very much in the shadow of Grenfell Tower. It's not

:06:46. > :06:53.just tower blocks causing concern. We've got nine NHS trusts who also

:06:54. > :06:57.have cladding similar to Grenfell Tower and that will be tested and

:06:58. > :07:03.schools are being told to check the cladding on buildings hire van four

:07:04. > :07:09.storeys to see what they are made of -- hire than.

:07:10. > :07:17.Local people want to be heard here. They want to make sure any failings

:07:18. > :07:23.during the aftermath should be brought to justice. We will be

:07:24. > :07:25.speaking to some of the residents later in the programme.

:07:26. > :07:29.Iain Watson joins us from Westminster.

:07:30. > :07:35.I know Labour is going to be talking about Grenfell Tower today and about

:07:36. > :07:41.funding for emergency services, what more can you tell us? That's right,

:07:42. > :07:45.I'm George Ezra will be accused of trying to politicise the tragedy at

:07:46. > :07:49.Grenfell Tower but his approach doesn't seem to be harming him in

:07:50. > :07:53.the opinion polls -- Jeremy Corbyn. He's called for more funding for the

:07:54. > :07:57.police and fire service since the tragedy took place and today he is

:07:58. > :08:00.trying to amend at the Queens speech, the government programme for

:08:01. > :08:04.the next two years, to try to guarantee the funding but he won't

:08:05. > :08:14.win because Theresa May now has the support of ten MPs from Northern

:08:15. > :08:18.Ireland, the DUM ps, so she can vote down his attempt but what he will

:08:19. > :08:22.try to do is win the odd and Andy Baris Conservative MPs at the same

:08:23. > :08:25.time -- DUP. Some conservatives who lost at the last election are saying

:08:26. > :08:27.on the doorsteps people felt public sector cuts had gone on for too

:08:28. > :08:43.long. -- DUP MPs --... The government will say if you want

:08:44. > :08:46.decent public services, you need a strong economy to deliver them and

:08:47. > :08:48.they say that something Labour simply can't do. Thank you very

:08:49. > :08:51.much. More from Westminster later. Sinn Fein has accused

:08:52. > :08:53.the Democratic Unionist Party of failing to give any ground

:08:54. > :08:56.in talks to restore devolved They say there had been no movement

:08:57. > :09:00.on the rights of Irish speakers But the DUP has insisted it has no

:09:01. > :09:05.red lines and accused Sinn Fein of being involved

:09:06. > :09:07.in a high-wire act. The deadline for reaching a deal

:09:08. > :09:10.is tomorrow afternoon. Services providing support

:09:11. > :09:12.for people who are older and disabled face more cuts,

:09:13. > :09:15.despite extra money being put That's according to research

:09:16. > :09:18.by the directors of adult social The report says more than two thirds

:09:19. > :09:23.of local authorities had to dip into their financial reserves last

:09:24. > :09:26.year to meet increasing demand. Our social affairs correspondent

:09:27. > :09:43.Allison Holt reports. One of the UK's rarest birds of prey

:09:44. > :09:46.is heading towards extinction There are just four breeding pairs

:09:47. > :09:50.of hen harriers left, and numbers are declining fast

:09:51. > :09:53.across the rest of the UK. Even in the bird's traditional

:09:54. > :09:55.stronghold of Scotland, The reasons include illegal

:09:56. > :09:58.persecution and destruction They are beautiful

:09:59. > :10:15.creatures, aren't they? You get a real sense there of how

:10:16. > :10:16.stunning they are. Want to watch these pictures closely. I still

:10:17. > :10:18.can't believe it! -- you want to. A pedestrian has had a miraculous

:10:19. > :10:30.escape after being struck by a bus When we showed this personally

:10:31. > :10:32.someone said they spilt their cereal over their dog so what this

:10:33. > :10:33.carefully! We must warn you that some people

:10:34. > :10:36.might find these pictures It is disturbing to watch

:10:37. > :10:40.but he survived and he's OK. A quiet morning in Reading until

:10:41. > :10:42.this spectacular accident happened. The man on the receiving end

:10:43. > :10:45.of the bus, Simon Smith, should by rights be

:10:46. > :10:48.seriously injured or worse. So it's nothing short of astonishing

:10:49. > :10:51.when he calmly gets up and walks Simon can't to talk to the BBC

:10:52. > :10:56.for legal reasons but his friends We called Simon a few hours

:10:57. > :11:01.after the day of the accident He was still in shock basically,

:11:02. > :11:06.he couldn't believe what happened. I just can't believe Simon got up,

:11:07. > :11:10.dusted himself off and walked The scars the bus left as it hit

:11:11. > :11:26.this wall coming to a stop Many here think that it

:11:27. > :11:33.careered around the corner because of a mechanical failure,

:11:34. > :11:36.but that's now the subject Reading Buses says it's

:11:37. > :11:42.shocked by the incident It's sharing the bus's

:11:43. > :11:45.on-board CCTV with police. As you might expect this

:11:46. > :11:48.footage has now gone viral. The main comment, most people admire

:11:49. > :12:04.the way Simon just kept calm Then he gets up and he walks into

:12:05. > :12:10.the nearest building, which happened to be a pub. Good on him! He's OK,

:12:11. > :12:12.the best news to come out of that but it is actually quite terrifying

:12:13. > :12:13.to watch! For the second time in less than two

:12:14. > :12:17.months, a computer virus is sweeping A large-scale cyber attack that

:12:18. > :12:21.started in Ukraine has been taking A British advertising agency

:12:22. > :12:24.is among the companies that Yesterday's cyber attack seems to be

:12:25. > :12:28.similar to the one that struck Our security correspondent

:12:29. > :12:39.Gordon Corera has more. During the day it became clear that

:12:40. > :12:43.the problem was not contained in Ukraine but was spreading. Reports

:12:44. > :12:50.came in of companies affected from Russia, across Europe to the UK and

:12:51. > :12:52.also the US. Those affected included oil producers, shipping and

:12:53. > :12:57.pharmaceutical companies and a London based advertising group. They

:12:58. > :13:00.were all faced with a screen like this, telling them they've been

:13:01. > :13:05.locked out of their computer and needed to pay a ransom to get back

:13:06. > :13:07.in. Computer systems which have not been upgraded or patched are usually

:13:08. > :13:08.the most vulnerable. Our security correspondent

:13:09. > :13:10.Gordon Corera there. Joining us now is technology

:13:11. > :13:18.expert Tom Cheesewright. He knows a thing or two about these

:13:19. > :13:23.things! I think we spoke to you last time there was a cyber attack.

:13:24. > :13:26.What's the difference with this one, it spread really quickly. We talked

:13:27. > :13:31.about the one that affected the NHS, what are the key differences here?

:13:32. > :13:35.The first is how it got out there, it was uploaded into a Ukrainian tax

:13:36. > :13:39.system and it spread from that system to anybody that downloaded a

:13:40. > :13:49.software update from there, that gets into all sorts of organisations

:13:50. > :13:52.that deal with them. From there it had three or four different ways of

:13:53. > :13:54.spreading across networks through organisations inside the Ukraine and

:13:55. > :13:58.international organisations. We don't know of any other ways it

:13:59. > :14:01.spread outside that, typically e-mails, phishing e-mails that

:14:02. > :14:07.encourage people to download the software. From what you can read

:14:08. > :14:11.into it, does it seem aimed at Ukraine, deliberately targeting

:14:12. > :14:15.them? What points us into that direction is it started with this

:14:16. > :14:19.software in the Ukraine, secondly it doesn't on second reflection looked

:14:20. > :14:23.like a piece of ransomware. The core code of the system seems very

:14:24. > :14:26.sophisticated, it's taking advantage of lots of different flaws in

:14:27. > :14:31.software to spread quickly through networks. The piece of software

:14:32. > :14:35.written to collect the money is basically rubbish. It is very

:14:36. > :14:44.simplistic. It's not about the cash? No, it is just a poor disguise.

:14:45. > :14:48.They've only been paid about ?8,000, which has affected so many people,

:14:49. > :14:50.so maybe it's not about the money. How can businesses protect

:14:51. > :14:55.themselves? Is it like drug testing, they are ahead in terms of the

:14:56. > :14:58.technology they use that you can use to fight against this? This isn't

:14:59. > :15:02.like someone pointing a gun at you but like a flu virus spreading, it

:15:03. > :15:06.gets the old and infirm first so you have to make sure your systems are

:15:07. > :15:10.up to date and if possible you've upgraded to the latest versions of

:15:11. > :15:13.the software and you have good antivirus in place and good backups

:15:14. > :15:17.but most of all you have to make sure your users and your setup in

:15:18. > :15:19.terms of policy is right. If things do get in that means they can't

:15:20. > :15:28.spread quickly. Other systems especially vulnerable

:15:29. > :15:32.at the moment or the attackers are becoming more sophisticated? Part of

:15:33. > :15:38.the problem is the NSA was stopped tiling what it called cyber weapons.

:15:39. > :15:43.They were stopped piling weapons for getting into different computers. --

:15:44. > :15:47.stockpiling. These were then shared with the public and now lots of

:15:48. > :15:57.cyber criminals are using these weapons in attacks. So these weapons

:15:58. > :16:02.feature in the software and allow it to spread rapidly across networks.

:16:03. > :16:08.This use of cyber attacks, we had the Defence Secretary Michael Fallon

:16:09. > :16:10.speaking yesterday about the use of cyber attacks against Isis, which

:16:11. > :16:15.have been successful, so whichever you look at it this is the future.

:16:16. > :16:21.This is the new battleground and there is some evidence that this is

:16:22. > :16:28.a target at Ukraine, and it is based on where it started and what it has

:16:29. > :16:32.caused. Hats this is a cyber attack on Ukraine. We've seen it attacked

:16:33. > :16:37.the Chernobyl nuclear reactor, so it is taking down the automated

:16:38. > :16:42.checking of levels, which is very dangerous. Affecting the movement of

:16:43. > :16:46.all sorts of goods around the world as well. Thank you.

:16:47. > :16:48.I fear we will have to talk to you again.

:16:49. > :16:56.Why don't you just stay there! Something we also always talk about,

:16:57. > :17:01.the weather. Good morning. I've got quite a lot of rain this morning and

:17:02. > :17:04.overnight. If you are travelling first thing watch out for extra

:17:05. > :17:11.surface water and spray on the roads. On the radar picture what you

:17:12. > :17:15.will find this we have seen a lot of rain. Some parts have had two inches

:17:16. > :17:19.over the course of the night. At the moment the heaviest rain is in east

:17:20. > :17:25.Anglia, through Cambridgeshire and into Lincolnshire. This rain is

:17:26. > :17:29.rotating around low pressure. This morning it is wet in Wales,

:17:30. > :17:33.south-west England, towards south-east England and east Anglia.

:17:34. > :17:38.In between the rain there are some drier interludes. We lose the cloud

:17:39. > :17:42.around and there is drizzle. But it isn't a cold start to the day. For

:17:43. > :17:46.more than England it is dry at the moment, at the rain is on its way

:17:47. > :17:51.from Northern Ireland. Rain moving east and south through the day and

:17:52. > :17:54.for Scotland you will have the driest weather today across the

:17:55. > :17:59.whole of the UK. That doesn't mean wall-to-wall blue skies. There will

:18:00. > :18:03.be quite a lot of cloud at times. Down the east coast of Scotland and

:18:04. > :18:08.England you will find the onshore flow will be quite windy and it will

:18:09. > :18:12.feel cold. Especially if you combine that with the rain. The rain moves

:18:13. > :18:16.away from the south-east. It will brighten up through the day as

:18:17. > :18:23.temperatures worries it could spark shunter we showers. -- as the

:18:24. > :18:27.temperatures rise it could spark a thundery showers. England, Scotland

:18:28. > :18:33.and Northern Ireland will see the rain. It never leaves the south-east

:18:34. > :18:38.and it calls back in again. Temperatures are in double figures

:18:39. > :18:41.in cities. Lower than that in rural areas. Tomorrow it is Scotland,

:18:42. > :18:45.northern England and Northern Ireland with the rain. Some of it

:18:46. > :18:49.still fringing in the west of Wales. A lot of dry weather for the rest of

:18:50. > :18:55.England and Wales. Temperatures tomorrow in the south, 16- 20

:18:56. > :19:01.Celsius. If you are stuck under the rain in the north it will be the

:19:02. > :19:04.cooler. 12- 14. As we had through Thursday, into Friday, this low

:19:05. > :19:08.pressure, which is dominating at the moment, starts to sink further

:19:09. > :19:13.south. The weather front is dragged southwards with it. On Friday itself

:19:14. > :19:16.here is the band of rain associated with it. You can see how it is

:19:17. > :19:22.fragmenting on the Western front. Still heavy at times and still keen

:19:23. > :19:26.wind, but this time it is coming from the north, which is a

:19:27. > :19:31.direction. Nonetheless, London could still hit 22 Celsius. As we head

:19:32. > :19:35.into the weekend it will be drier and brighter. That doesn't mean it

:19:36. > :19:39.will be dry and bright all the time, because there will be some Atlantic

:19:40. > :19:43.fronts coming from the west. But we don't expect them to be as heavy or

:19:44. > :19:53.produce as much rain as we have seen all are going to see today.

:19:54. > :19:58.Thank you very much. Ben is with us, looking at some of the main business

:19:59. > :20:01.stories. We have been talking about the clampdown from the regulator,

:20:02. > :20:07.the financial Rigoletto, one of these we pay on our pensions.

:20:08. > :20:14.They've just unveiled a crackdown, the Financial Conduct Authority,

:20:15. > :20:19.after complaints that firms are charging too much on this. The

:20:20. > :20:23.market is worth ?7 trillion but it is unclear what visa being imposed

:20:24. > :20:27.and higher fees are eating into the value of our retirement savings. It

:20:28. > :20:30.is important because three quarters of all UK households currently have

:20:31. > :20:35.a pension that is invested in the stock market. More for you on that

:20:36. > :20:39.in about half an hour. Elsewhere, Toshiba has failed to sell its

:20:40. > :20:43.memory business, despite plans to sell it to the Japanese government.

:20:44. > :20:46.It needs to sell the firm for about $18 billion to pay for its failed US

:20:47. > :20:54.nuclear business that collapsed earlier this year. Without a deal

:20:55. > :21:00.the future of Toshiba remains in doubt and the whole firm could

:21:01. > :21:04.collapse as a result. More than three quarters of the population of

:21:05. > :21:08.the world now uses Facebook. It announced it has 2 billion people

:21:09. > :21:14.using the site, 13 years after it was founded by Mark Zuckerberg at

:21:15. > :21:19.Harvard. He famously dropped out of university after globe on the --

:21:20. > :21:24.launching the global networking site. But critics long predicted the

:21:25. > :21:30.demise of the firm, as Snapchat and Instagram it into user numbers. 2

:21:31. > :21:34.billion for Facebook! Not a bad figure for someone who set it up at

:21:35. > :21:36.university. Absolutely amazing. Thank you and see you later.

:21:37. > :21:41.Flipping out the numbers today! First introduced as a way

:21:42. > :21:44.of combating crime, the power to stop-and-search members

:21:45. > :21:47.of the public is one of the most controversial aspects

:21:48. > :21:49.of British policing. In England and Wales,

:21:50. > :21:51.its use has more than halved But, in an exclusive interview,

:21:52. > :21:56.one of England's most senior police chiefs has told Breakfast

:21:57. > :21:58.he believes the drop in stop-and-search has led

:21:59. > :22:01.to a rise in knife crime. Our reporter Tim Muffett

:22:02. > :22:06.has the story. Everytime I go down,

:22:07. > :22:10.people are walking past and it's just a normal day, but that's

:22:11. > :22:12.where my life ended, On the same street in Leicester

:22:13. > :22:27.where Amy's son Tyler was stabbed to death in 2015, Sean

:22:28. > :22:36.was attacked one month before. They stabbed me once in my back,

:22:37. > :22:42.which went straight into my artery. If I didn't survive this

:22:43. > :22:45.could be my mum sitting here feeling Amy and Shaun believe jail sentences

:22:46. > :22:49.for knife possession should be longer and that police should be

:22:50. > :22:52.stopping and searching more If the stop-and-search was more

:22:53. > :22:56.present, then I believe my son Across England and Wales,

:22:57. > :23:11.police are stopping and searching In 2011, there were more

:23:12. > :23:20.than 100,000 stop and searches. According to the most recent

:23:21. > :23:23.Home Office figures that number has Those figures relate to searches

:23:24. > :23:27.for offensive weapons. Since 2011, overall knife crime has

:23:28. > :23:31.fallen, but in the past two years it Stop-and-search legally done

:23:32. > :23:38.is an absolutely vital part Like all police chiefs,

:23:39. > :23:48.Mike Barton was told by the Home Office in 2014 that

:23:49. > :23:51.stop-and-search needed reform. It should be intelligence-led,

:23:52. > :23:56.more effectively targeted. Do you think there's a link

:23:57. > :24:01.between a national decrease in stop-and-search and the recent

:24:02. > :24:03.increase in knife crime? We have not done any hard science

:24:04. > :24:07.to say that there is a direct link, however, we are all bright people

:24:08. > :24:11.and we can all work it out and you've got to say that it's

:24:12. > :24:25.a reasonable hypothesis. They are members of Break the Chain,

:24:26. > :24:29.a London-based group of volunteers. Carrying a knife is normalised,

:24:30. > :24:31.like wearing socks. How do you feel about

:24:32. > :24:34.carrying a knife? They believe talking to people

:24:35. > :24:37.is the best way to dissuade them Cairo has himself been

:24:38. > :24:40.stopped and searched. The van stopped and they

:24:41. > :24:48.slammed open the door. When I asked them why I was searched

:24:49. > :24:55.they said I looked nervous. I've never been in

:24:56. > :24:58.trouble with the police. If you drive past in a van and stare

:24:59. > :25:03.at me, I'm going to be nervous. Stop-and-search needs

:25:04. > :25:05.to be dealt with better. West Midlands Police training centre

:25:06. > :25:07.and a stop-and-search This force believes fewer searches

:25:08. > :25:12.can be just as effective. Since 2011-2012 we have reduced

:25:13. > :25:17.the amount of stop and searches that we conduct, but the arrest rate

:25:18. > :25:24.from that remains exactly the same, so it would appear now that we are

:25:25. > :25:27.targeting the right people, The Home Office says it supports

:25:28. > :25:35.stop-and-search when carried out properly and that there is no proven

:25:36. > :25:39.link between a number of searches But as a police tactic,

:25:40. > :25:46.it remains controversial. Later we'll be speaking to a member

:25:47. > :25:51.of the race equality organisation, the Runnymede Trust,

:25:52. > :25:53.looking at the issue of racial Also to come this morning: Have

:25:54. > :26:01.you ever heard of Man v Fat? It's a football

:26:02. > :26:03.league for obese men. Kat's at the Soccer in the city

:26:04. > :26:15.stadium in Manchester for us. It is all about losing weight. It

:26:16. > :26:21.started two years ago and they've lost a combined total of 4000 stone!

:26:22. > :26:22.And you get goals for the amount of weight you have lost! Amazing.

:26:23. > :29:42.Really fascinating. More on that Hello, this is Breakfast,

:29:43. > :29:56.with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. A decision on whether people

:29:57. > :29:59.and organisations will face criminal disaster will be announced this

:30:00. > :30:02.morning. The Crown Prosecution Service

:30:03. > :30:04.will reveal its intentions at a meeting with victims'

:30:05. > :30:06.relatives this morning. 96 Liverpool fans died

:30:07. > :30:09.when the terraces at the Sheffield ground became overcrowded

:30:10. > :30:17.during the 1989 FA Cup semi final. Steve Kelly's brother, Michael,

:30:18. > :30:20.died in the disaster. It's paramount in this whole case

:30:21. > :30:23.to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough

:30:24. > :30:26.and you know, to truly let News on that throughout the day

:30:27. > :30:39.for you across the BBC. Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower

:30:40. > :30:42.fire, Theresa May has called for a major national investigation

:30:43. > :30:44.into the use of potentially flammable cladding

:30:45. > :30:46.on high rise buildings. Every one of the samples tested

:30:47. > :30:49.from 95 buildings across England Last night the government confirmed

:30:50. > :30:53.all school buildings over four storeys tall are having

:30:54. > :30:55.their external cladding analysed Labour says it will challenge MPs

:30:56. > :31:02.today to oppose further austerity. The party will call for more

:31:03. > :31:05.spending on the police and fire services as an amendment

:31:06. > :31:07.to the Queen's Speech, as well as an end to the 1% cap

:31:08. > :31:11.on public sector pay rises. The Conservatives say only

:31:12. > :31:14.they will deliver the economy needed to properly fund the

:31:15. > :31:22.emergency services. Computer systems around the world

:31:23. > :31:25.have been hit by a major cyber-attack affecting banks,

:31:26. > :31:27.retailers, energy firms The companies have been

:31:28. > :31:30.told their computers will remain Experts who have examined the code

:31:31. > :31:34.say it's more sophisticated than the virus used in a global

:31:35. > :31:38.attack last month, which badly hit One of the UK's rarest birds of prey

:31:39. > :31:47.is heading towards extinction There are just four breeding pairs

:31:48. > :31:52.of hen harriers left, and numbers are declining fast

:31:53. > :31:55.across the rest of the UK. Even in the bird's traditional

:31:56. > :31:57.stronghold of Scotland, The reasons include illegal

:31:58. > :32:00.persecution and destruction Time for my favourite story of the

:32:01. > :32:20.day! Cow news with a difference! started playing her ukulele

:32:21. > :32:28.to a herd of cows in Llandudno. Here she is with just

:32:29. > :32:31.a few of the herd watching, and before too long,

:32:32. > :32:48.she was joined by many more Then she's got a massive crowd like

:32:49. > :32:58.the Pied Piper. You know what we would call that if she worked in the

:32:59. > :33:06.newspaper industry? Mukele! She said you can't be here all night, Monday!

:33:07. > :33:12.Mukele! They play music to cows when they are milking them! What for,

:33:13. > :33:23.why? May be to relax them. Cows really like music. Bella's .be...

:33:24. > :33:26.Hold on a minute, going to say it again, mukelele!

:33:27. > :33:41.England fans are used to it, though, aren't they? Too many times. England

:33:42. > :33:44.under 21s lost to Germany in the European Championship semi-final

:33:45. > :33:50.yesterday on penalties. Do we practice loads? Or do we do what the

:33:51. > :33:55.Germans say they did, not practice at all and turn up and have a go?

:33:56. > :33:56.I'm not sure I believe them by the looks of that penalty shootout.

:33:57. > :33:59.Once again, England have lost the semi-final of a football

:34:00. > :34:03.This time it was the Under 21s European Championship,

:34:04. > :34:06.the lead through Chelsea's Tammy Abraham.

:34:07. > :34:08.But the Germans levelled and after extra time,

:34:09. > :34:11.Nathan Redmond penalty was saved and the side followed the fate

:34:12. > :34:17.of the senior teams in 1990 and 1996.

:34:18. > :34:21.We've been practising for weeks but in the end of the two players

:34:22. > :34:24.you would put odds on to score every time, the goalkeeper makes

:34:25. > :34:26.a great save so we'll have to take that.

:34:27. > :34:30.It's been a real team effort and I think we can be pleased

:34:31. > :34:35.And in the end we've lost on a penalty shootout and next time

:34:36. > :34:40.It's only 25 days since Real Madrid won the Champions League

:34:41. > :34:42.but this season's competition is already under way!

:34:43. > :34:44.Despite a stunning goal from Scott Quigley,

:34:45. > :34:48.Welsh champions the New Saints lost 2-1 to Europa FC of Gibraltar

:34:49. > :34:59.Fifa officials investigating alleged corruption were told plans

:35:00. > :35:02.for England to play a friendly in Thailand to win backing

:35:03. > :35:05.for their own World Cup bid were a form of bribery.

:35:06. > :35:07.The former FA Chairman Geoff Thompson made

:35:08. > :35:09.the admission when interviewed during a Fifa enquiry

:35:10. > :35:12.into the bidding process for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments,

:35:13. > :35:21.England's cricketers thrashed Pakistan to get

:35:22. > :35:24.their Women's World Cup campaign back on track.

:35:25. > :35:27.Natalie Sivver and captain Heather Knight both hit their first

:35:28. > :35:32.as England reached a record-breaking 377-7.

:35:33. > :35:33.Pakistan never got close, the rain intervened,

:35:34. > :35:45.It was exciting to watch, watching Nat at the other end

:35:46. > :35:50.It's the type of cricket we want to play, we wanna be

:35:51. > :35:52.exciting and we wanna show what we can do.

:35:53. > :35:56.We all know Nat can do that and to see her go out and do

:35:57. > :35:58.that is obviously brilliant from our perspective,

:35:59. > :36:01.but it's a great performance obviously but there's a lot more

:36:02. > :36:04.cricket to be played in this tournament.

:36:05. > :36:05.Novak Djokovic had entered the Aegon International

:36:06. > :36:08.in Eastbourne with hopes of gaining some much-needed grass court

:36:09. > :36:12.but spent a lot of yesterday twiddling his thumbs.

:36:13. > :36:14.The former world number one had taken the first game

:36:15. > :36:17.against Canada's Vasek Pospisil when the rains came

:36:18. > :36:28.From what Carol has been saying, I'm not sure they'll have much luck.

:36:29. > :36:31.While the current world number one Andy Murray pulled out

:36:32. > :36:34.of an exhibition match at the Hurlingham Club in London,

:36:35. > :36:39.He is still expected to play at the Club on Friday before

:36:40. > :36:41.beginning the defence of his Wimbledon title

:36:42. > :36:42.on Centre Court on Monday afternoon.

:36:43. > :36:47.He did play earlier in the day yesterday and maybe he felt some

:36:48. > :36:51.soreness during that training match and decided not to continue and play

:36:52. > :36:55.hours of tennis. Nothing too much too worried about but he needed the

:36:56. > :37:00.rest. Rest is a good thing! You're going to be not on the sofa for the

:37:01. > :37:05.next couple of weeks? The next fortnight from Wimbledon, I am so

:37:06. > :37:09.lucky, I love my job and this is my favourite time of year, one of my

:37:10. > :37:14.favourite things to do, Wimbledon fortnight with Carol. Can it get any

:37:15. > :37:16.better than that? Breakfast with Carol every morning, it's the dream!

:37:17. > :37:28.I'm living it! A competition now with a difference,

:37:29. > :37:33.Man V Fat. 24 leagues have been set up to help big men lose weight. Set

:37:34. > :37:42.up 20 years ago, the men so far have lost a combined impressive total of

:37:43. > :37:47.4000st. Cat Downs is pitch side in Manchester for us this morning. Some

:37:48. > :37:53.incredible numbers! Some amazing stories, you're right, in a moment I

:37:54. > :37:57.will speak to a man who has lost 27% of his body weight, incredible

:37:58. > :38:01.stories here at Man V Fat and I'm not just pitch side, I'm on the

:38:02. > :38:05.pitch, you have to have eyes on the back of your head, these guys can

:38:06. > :38:10.get serious weight behind the ball. How do you go about losing weight?

:38:11. > :38:18.That was the problem that led to the birth of Man V Fat. Join a Zumba

:38:19. > :38:22.class? A slimming diet? That didn't work for a lot of these guys but

:38:23. > :38:26.what did work was playing football every week and making a life change

:38:27. > :38:30.with overweight guys like them, and it's worked. Across the leagues

:38:31. > :38:35.around the country 3000 men have lost a combined total of more than

:38:36. > :38:39.30 tons. In a moment I will speak to some of them but here's eight quick

:38:40. > :38:43.look first at how it works. -- a quick look.

:38:44. > :38:51.This is my first season and I've lost three and a halfst. I'm

:38:52. > :38:59.enjoying life better, I feel like I'm getting more out of it. There

:39:00. > :39:09.you go! Made me a lot fitter and a lock thinner! Still rubbish and

:39:10. > :39:13.football! Rubbish or the next Ronaldo? That doesn't matter here.

:39:14. > :39:18.What counts is shedding the Stones. As well as goals on the pitch...

:39:19. > :39:24.Teams get bonus goals for the amount of weight they lose together. I

:39:25. > :39:28.really, really struggled to lose weight through the years. I joined a

:39:29. > :39:32.lot of the commercial weight loss organisations and obviously so many

:39:33. > :39:36.of the people who go to those are women and it just felt it wasn't

:39:37. > :39:41.quite right for me. There's a lot of talk about fitting into a bikini. So

:39:42. > :39:44.really it was about finding some going that was suitable for men,

:39:45. > :39:48.something that would really empower them, something that would really

:39:49. > :39:53.help them to lose weight and that's where Man V Fat football came from.

:39:54. > :39:56.It works thanks to teamwork. When we first started we had a tiny Little

:39:57. > :40:00.broom cupboard room where the men would come and weigh-in and it ended

:40:01. > :40:05.up with the whole team cramming into these tiny rooms because they were

:40:06. > :40:09.supporting each other, cheering each other on and wanting each other to

:40:10. > :40:14.do well. This league in Manchester isn't the only one, there are 24

:40:15. > :40:17.around the country. That's 3000 men getting out, playing football and

:40:18. > :40:25.losing weight and in around a year and a half they've lost a combined

:40:26. > :40:32.total of more than 30 tons. So that's 906.1, you've lost four kilos

:40:33. > :40:36.this week. Ross has lost 4.5st since January. Before this he found there

:40:37. > :40:41.was nothing accessible for guys like him who wanted to lose weight. You

:40:42. > :40:44.look at your men's fitness, get a sixpack, show your muscles when

:40:45. > :40:48.those lads, we're nowhere near that. We need to be able to lose weight

:40:49. > :40:53.comparably and if it's having a group of lads taking the Mickey out

:40:54. > :40:56.of you and doing it that way it's absolutely perfect. With the tons

:40:57. > :40:58.ticking away it proves whatever works for you is best in the battle

:40:59. > :41:06.against the bulge. So forget your bikini diets and your

:41:07. > :41:12.juice detox is, this seems to be working for men, a way of getting

:41:13. > :41:17.men to lose weight and engage in a healthy lifestyle. Andrew, it seems

:41:18. > :41:20.to be the key to getting men involved in weight losses, not

:41:21. > :41:22.taking yourself too seriously, I love the team names, can you give me

:41:23. > :41:32.a few? Allows of humour, we have team names like

:41:33. > :41:39.the cerebral -- there's lots of humour. In Manchester we had 17

:41:40. > :41:49.Stone Roses. My favourite was Chafing the Cure and. I want to

:41:50. > :41:53.bring in -- Chafing the Cure dream. You're the first council to have

:41:54. > :41:59.taken a risk and started working with Man V Fat to help bring down

:42:00. > :42:04.obesity numbers -- Chafing the Cure in. What results have you seen?

:42:05. > :42:14.it's been great, we don't see it often in these services. The men who

:42:15. > :42:20.take it up in Solihull appeared to be sticking with it, which is part

:42:21. > :42:25.of the battle. Let me bring in Ben. You lost 27% of your body weight. We

:42:26. > :42:30.have some before pictures of you, how you look before you lost the

:42:31. > :42:34.weight and you have loved Man V Fat so much that you have gone on to be

:42:35. > :42:41.a coach in the league. How important is teamwork in this? A lot of it is

:42:42. > :42:44.not wanting to let your team down? Definitely, big accountability

:42:45. > :42:48.coming in every night weighing in not only with guys you don't want to

:42:49. > :42:51.let down but those supporting you through the week, we have groups

:42:52. > :42:55.that are chatting and supporting through the week so you feel you're

:42:56. > :42:59.doing it for the team as well as yourself. The goals on the pitch

:43:00. > :43:04.count as well so to your position in the league so you can get bonus

:43:05. > :43:09.goals for losing the weight. A lot of the games are decided purely by

:43:10. > :43:13.the weight loss goals and the pitch scorecard affected as much often.

:43:14. > :43:16.It's a good balance between competitive football and weight

:43:17. > :43:21.loss. Congratulations and congratulations to everyone for

:43:22. > :43:24.coming out and playing so early. They've come from Birmingham, Stoke

:43:25. > :43:29.and Manchester and it's not just about fun, there's a big trophy at

:43:30. > :43:34.stake, some serious silverware. Check this out for a trophy if you

:43:35. > :43:39.win our mini BBC Breakfast tournament this morning. Not bad,

:43:40. > :43:44.hey? That looks so good. You won't have seen it, it was behind you, we

:43:45. > :43:48.will show you later, but one of the guys in a black shirt scored and

:43:49. > :43:54.believable goal which we will try to show later. I want to see that,

:43:55. > :44:03.please, that will be amazing. I love some of those names, 17 Stone Roses.

:44:04. > :44:07.Chafing the Dream was my favourite, at least they aren't taking

:44:08. > :44:21.themselves too seriously! 27% of your body weight!

:44:22. > :44:26.If you like rain, that's what you would have seen. That's right, a wet

:44:27. > :44:32.start for many places, but not all of the UK. There'll be a of standing

:44:33. > :44:36.water, surface spray, we have had heavy rain through the night. The

:44:37. > :44:40.heaviest rain has been across England and Wales. At the moment the

:44:41. > :44:44.heaviest rain is the east Anglia, heading up through the likes of

:44:45. > :44:48.Lincolnshire. It is all rotating around an area of low pressure and

:44:49. > :44:52.it will continue to do so and drift further northwards as we go through

:44:53. > :44:57.the day. That will allow it to brighten up in the south-east. Not

:44:58. > :45:01.especially sunny. Still a lot of cloud. The brightest skies will be

:45:02. > :45:06.in Scotland, where we will have sunshine later, especially in the

:45:07. > :45:09.west, and the rain moves away from Northern Ireland and into northern

:45:10. > :45:13.England. Down the east coast there is an onshore flow that will be

:45:14. > :45:17.windy. If you are stuck under the rain and wind it will feel chilly.

:45:18. > :45:21.In the afternoon as temperatures rise that could spark a thundery

:45:22. > :45:25.downpours. There will be showers. We will hang on to the rain in

:45:26. > :45:30.south-west England and also parts of Wales. It will be on and off through

:45:31. > :45:35.the day. For Northern Ireland the rain will clear you, at the moment

:45:36. > :45:39.it is in the east. It will push southwards, allowing brighter skies

:45:40. > :45:44.to develop. Maybe one or two showers. Sunny skies in Scotland

:45:45. > :45:49.will be in the west. Down the east coast we have an onshore flow, so it

:45:50. > :45:52.will feel cool. Through the evening and overnight the rain continues to

:45:53. > :45:57.push northwards, getting across all of northern England and through

:45:58. > :46:00.parts of Scotland and back into Northern Ireland and it remains in

:46:01. > :46:04.south-west England, through the English Channel. In towns and cities

:46:05. > :46:09.temperatures stay in double figures. Lower than that in the rural areas.

:46:10. > :46:12.Tomorrow is the turn of northern England, Scotland and Northern

:46:13. > :46:16.Ireland to see the rain, but still some coming through the west of

:46:17. > :46:20.Wales and south-west England. For the rest of Wales and England

:46:21. > :46:25.largely dry, except for the odd shower. Still that keen wind coming

:46:26. > :46:29.in from the North Sea, through the Irish Sea and into the English

:46:30. > :46:34.Channel. If you are exposed to that, especially in the east, it will feel

:46:35. > :46:38.cold. Further south with the dry conditions temperatures getting up

:46:39. > :46:44.to about 17- 20 Celsius, but cooler than that as we push further north.

:46:45. > :46:48.That low pressure still with us Thursday and into Friday, but it is

:46:49. > :46:52.sinking and dragging the weather front with it, which produces some

:46:53. > :46:56.rain. The wind veers to more of a chilly direction, more of a

:46:57. > :47:01.northerly. The rain turns more patchy. Still potent in the east. A

:47:02. > :47:12.fair bit of dry weather, with highs of 22.

:47:13. > :47:17.Lovely. See you in about 25 minutes. Today marks two weeks since the

:47:18. > :47:21.Grenfell Tower fire. At least 79 people are known to have died in a

:47:22. > :47:27.blaze, with hundreds left homeless. A lot has happened in the last 14

:47:28. > :47:28.days. We've seen anger, despair, but also hope, resilience and a

:47:29. > :47:30.community spirit. At its height, 40 fire engines

:47:31. > :47:33.and more than 200 firefighters Dozens were rescued

:47:34. > :47:37.but despite their efforts, 79 people are now

:47:38. > :47:40.known to have died. The fire started in a fridge freezer

:47:41. > :47:43.but what caused it to spread so quickly will be key

:47:44. > :47:49.to the investigation. The focus so far has

:47:50. > :47:51.been on the cladding. Samples from 95 towers in 32 local

:47:52. > :47:54.authority areas in England have The government was criticised

:47:55. > :48:02.for its slow response to the tragedy, but has

:48:03. > :48:06.since announced a full public enquiry, ?5 million fund

:48:07. > :48:09.for the victims and a promise to rehouse all those

:48:10. > :48:11.affected in the local area. The tragedy has evoked a huge

:48:12. > :48:14.outpouring of support. Millions of pounds have been donated

:48:15. > :48:16.as well as clothing, We're joined now from west London

:48:17. > :48:26.by Amanda Fernandez, who lives next to Grenfell Tower,

:48:27. > :48:37.and Pilgrim Tucker, who was involved Good morning and thank you for

:48:38. > :48:42.joining us. If I can just ask you first, Amanda, I know you lived very

:48:43. > :48:50.close to the tower. How close and are you able to get back into your

:48:51. > :48:54.home? I live on the Lancaster Estate, the tower is part of that

:48:55. > :49:01.state. So literally the ground level, right at the base of the

:49:02. > :49:07.tower. The tower acts as a central hub for the power to the rest of the

:49:08. > :49:11.estate, so another 845 homes. When the tower came down literally the

:49:12. > :49:16.estate shut down because we had no hot water, no electricity, all of

:49:17. > :49:21.the minor things you need to have a safe home. And of course added to

:49:22. > :49:25.that you had... We don't know if there are still toxins in the air,

:49:26. > :49:30.there's been no report, there has been no co-ordination or official

:49:31. > :49:36.response to any of the residents that were evacuated, so we are still

:49:37. > :49:41.not in our homes. There is access, but it's not safe, it's not safe.

:49:42. > :49:49.And where are you staying at the moment? My family is in temporary

:49:50. > :49:57.accommodation, we are outside... In the Hammersmith and Fulham borough.

:49:58. > :50:01.One is in Westminster and the other is in a different location. Did you

:50:02. > :50:06.get any choice about where to go? We know some people don't want to be

:50:07. > :50:12.able to see the tower. Did you get a choice? You didn't get a choice. You

:50:13. > :50:17.didn't even get offered this option. It was kind of, you need somewhere

:50:18. > :50:22.to sleep and if you have small children or elderly or whoever you

:50:23. > :50:28.need to be somewhere, you need to be sheltered. So we just took what we

:50:29. > :50:32.were given. A lot of people are further away and for different

:50:33. > :50:36.reasons I know a lot of my friends and family who were in the tower

:50:37. > :50:39.don't want to be anywhere near the tower and are still forced to have

:50:40. > :50:43.to pass it every day because we still have to come to the recovery

:50:44. > :50:46.centre that is next to the tower as well. I personally can't leave my

:50:47. > :50:52.community. I don't necessarily want to look at it, it is very hard, but

:50:53. > :50:58.I'm always here at 8am and we leave at midnight to go home and sleep. I

:50:59. > :51:02.will come back to you in a moment. Pilgrim, we know you were in charge

:51:03. > :51:06.of this fire safety campaign and there's been so much talk and

:51:07. > :51:14.looking at what went wrong. What were your main concerns before this?

:51:15. > :51:19.The main concern of the residence at the time I was working here was the

:51:20. > :51:24.overall refurbishment job that was going on. The quality of the work

:51:25. > :51:29.that was going on and how the residents here were being treated by

:51:30. > :51:37.the council, by the tenant management organisation. Is the --

:51:38. > :51:40.the specific thing we were looking at was the boilers and the

:51:41. > :51:44.positioning of boilers in houses and the pipework to and from those

:51:45. > :51:50.boilers. Apparently they had been consulted on the work that was being

:51:51. > :51:53.done and they had a show flat and on the show flat the boilers were

:51:54. > :51:59.positioned somewhere sensible, above the kitchen sink. In the kitchen.

:52:00. > :52:03.But then they realised that when the work started happening, the

:52:04. > :52:08.residents realised the boilers were being placed in this narrow

:52:09. > :52:12.corridors leading to the front door, so partially obstructing the front

:52:13. > :52:17.doors. And the pipework to those boilers was sticking out several

:52:18. > :52:26.inches out of the walls. So they were very unhappy about that. They

:52:27. > :52:29.tried to get in touch with the TMO and council about moving the boilers

:52:30. > :52:33.and putting them where they were originally meant to be and the

:52:34. > :52:37.council was so unresponsive. They just didn't reply to any e-mails and

:52:38. > :52:43.actually it took people protesting in the end. They tried petitioning.

:52:44. > :52:46.But they had to protest in the end. And in the end of those who

:52:47. > :52:50.protested did get those boilers moved, but the ones who didn't have

:52:51. > :52:54.them positioned in the hallway. At the time we weren't really aware

:52:55. > :52:59.that there would be a problem with the flammability of the cladding,

:53:00. > :53:05.but we knew they were all of these historical fire safety problems. The

:53:06. > :53:09.power surges, fire safety equipment not being checked regularly and they

:53:10. > :53:13.complained about that for a long period of time and had no response.

:53:14. > :53:17.They were very worried about that. We do know, and I can still see you

:53:18. > :53:21.are very emotional about it, we know there will be this public enquiry

:53:22. > :53:26.and they will be looking at so many things with regard to what happened,

:53:27. > :53:31.how it happened and the rest of it. Are you optimistic that this will

:53:32. > :53:37.bring answers and change? I don't feel very optimistic. What is really

:53:38. > :53:40.shocking is that Theresa May spoke to the media about the public

:53:41. > :53:45.enquiry yesterday before she even reply to the tenants. The tenants

:53:46. > :53:50.e-mail to the day before yesterday -- e-mailed her the day before

:53:51. > :53:53.yesterday and asked for several things, which under the

:53:54. > :53:57.circumstances are not just reasonable, they are hugely

:53:58. > :54:02.important. They've asked for input into choosing the chair, the terms

:54:03. > :54:05.of reference and advisers and making sure this is a really thorough

:54:06. > :54:11.public enquiry that looks back over the years at all of the causes of

:54:12. > :54:16.this and all of the negligence that happened building up to that fire

:54:17. > :54:20.and just the absence of the authorities in the aftermath and the

:54:21. > :54:29.fact that the people here will have to fend for themselves and there was

:54:30. > :54:36.nobody here doing their jobs. So, no, it doesn't really fill with --

:54:37. > :54:39.me with confidence. People here have already lost trust in the

:54:40. > :54:44.authorities and Theresa May is now asking them to trust her again, but

:54:45. > :54:48.they contact her and she doesn't reply to them and she goes astray to

:54:49. > :54:56.speak to the media. Just appalling. So rude. Amanda, I can see you are

:54:57. > :55:01.nodding at agreeing with some of the things Pilgrim is saying. If I can

:55:02. > :55:05.ask you, presumably, hopefully, at some point you will be allowed to go

:55:06. > :55:13.back to your house. How do you feel about that? There are several

:55:14. > :55:19.factors that they have to kind of... Several boxes they have to tick

:55:20. > :55:24.before we can go back to our house. The state of the environment right

:55:25. > :55:28.now, our homes are so close to the tower that any work that is being

:55:29. > :55:34.done to the tower will always affect us and I can't see that being done

:55:35. > :55:38.in the near future. Apart from that, a lot of my friends and family were

:55:39. > :55:43.actually on the tower and managed to escape and some didn't, so there's a

:55:44. > :55:47.lot of emotions there as well. It's not something I've actually thought

:55:48. > :55:50.about yet, because we are just trying to process everything, going

:55:51. > :55:55.back to our homes, to our possessions and what's left is

:55:56. > :55:58.something that you don't even look forward to because everything is

:55:59. > :56:02.completely changed, it's not the same. This is why we put in an

:56:03. > :56:06.enquiry that we need to be involved. This is why we put in our statement

:56:07. > :56:10.that we need to be involved, because right from the beginning there has

:56:11. > :56:17.been systematic failure, right from before, during the fire, and now

:56:18. > :56:20.after. It's just giving us no hope. Briefly, how would you describe the

:56:21. > :56:27.way you personally feel at the moment? Look, I keep saying, the

:56:28. > :56:32.first week are was in shock and full of anger and shock. Complete shock.

:56:33. > :56:37.The second week little bit of emotion, I couldn't talk properly.

:56:38. > :56:42.This past weekend I've had time to kind of reflect and realise,

:56:43. > :56:47.actually, if we don't speak up now time is passing, it is already

:56:48. > :56:51.becoming chip paper for a lot of the world and we are still living it. It

:56:52. > :56:54.feels like two years have passed and it's only two weeks, if we haven't

:56:55. > :57:00.moved, everything is going in slow motion. Personally, I am still

:57:01. > :57:04.filled with a lot of anger but I know we have to channel it in a way

:57:05. > :57:08.that the world can support as, it's not only the immediate community, it

:57:09. > :57:12.is everyone's support we need. This is for everyone across the world who

:57:13. > :57:16.lives in social housing. Things have to change. It's enough. Enough is

:57:17. > :57:24.enough. I appreciate your time. Rest of luck. -- best of luck.

:57:25. > :57:29.Really powerful testimonies from both of them. A lot of people are

:57:30. > :57:32.catching up on this programme on iPlayer these days. That interview

:57:33. > :57:36.will be available on iPlayer later. Time now to get the news,

:57:37. > :01:03.travel and weather where you are. Hello, this is Breakfast

:01:04. > :01:08.with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin. After a near 30 year battle,

:01:09. > :01:10.the families of those who died at Hillsborough will find out this

:01:11. > :01:13.morning whether anyone It follows two separate

:01:14. > :01:21.inquires into what happened on the day of the match

:01:22. > :01:24.and whether there was Good morning.

:01:25. > :01:35.It's Wednesday, 28th June. Two weeks

:01:36. > :01:44.on from the Grenfell Tower disaster we hear what life is like for those

:01:45. > :01:47.who've been forced One of the UK's most senior police

:01:48. > :01:53.officers says that a reduction in stop and search has led

:01:54. > :01:56.to an increase in knife crime. Victims tell Breakfast

:01:57. > :02:09.more needs to be done. Very angry. I can see it in my eyes,

:02:10. > :02:14.yeah. This has got to stop. This knife thing has got to stop.

:02:15. > :02:20.Good morning, we could be paying thousands of pounds too much in

:02:21. > :02:23.hidden fees on our pensions. The regulator has managed a crackdown,

:02:24. > :02:27.but many of us are still getting a raw deal.

:02:28. > :02:31.England lose to Germany on penalties Nathan Redmond's miss means they go

:02:32. > :02:33.out at the semi final stage of the under-21

:02:34. > :02:41.I'm playing early morning football with these guys in Manchester to

:02:42. > :02:45.find out more about how teamwork is helping these men and 3,000 like

:02:46. > :02:48.them around the country lose a combined total of more than 32

:02:49. > :03:00.tonnes in weight! For England and Wales, it is a wet

:03:01. > :03:03.start. Some heavy rain around. It will improve in the South East. For

:03:04. > :03:07.Northern Ireland, the rain will clear you and then it will brighten,

:03:08. > :03:10.but the driest conditions of all will be in Scotland. I'll have more

:03:11. > :03:14.details in 15 minutes. See you later. Thank you very much.

:03:15. > :03:20.The families of those who died at Hillsborough will find out

:03:21. > :03:22.later this morning whether anyone will face criminal charges.

:03:23. > :03:24.An inquest ruled last year that the 96 Liverpool fans who died

:03:25. > :03:27.at the stadium in Sheffield in 1989 were unlawfully killed.

:03:28. > :03:31.Our North of England Correspondent Judith Moritz reports.

:03:32. > :03:37.# Walk on, walk on, with hope in your heart...#

:03:38. > :03:40.It was a moment of history, the inquest's finding last year that

:03:41. > :03:44.96 Liverpool fans were unlawfully killed at Hillsborough.

:03:45. > :03:46.For their families, it was justice, but their legal

:03:47. > :03:51.Steve Kelly lost his brother Michael in the disaster.

:03:52. > :03:54.He's spent the 28 years since then calling for those responsible

:03:55. > :04:04.There's got to be this accountability.

:04:05. > :04:08.It's paramount in this whole case to give the families respite

:04:09. > :04:11.and the survivors of Hillsborough and you know, to truly let

:04:12. > :04:20.The fans were killed when the terraces at the Sheffield

:04:21. > :04:23.ground became overcrowded during the 1989 FA Cup semi-final.

:04:24. > :04:29.Since 2012, there have been two criminal inquiries

:04:30. > :04:32.Operation Resolve investigated the day of the disaster.

:04:33. > :04:38.Offences considered include gross negligence manslaughter.

:04:39. > :04:39.One of those waiting to hear whether he'll

:04:40. > :04:41.face charges is former Chief Superintendent

:04:42. > :04:43.David Duckenfield, who was the South Yorkshire

:04:44. > :04:50.The police watchdog, the IPCC, investigated cover-up allegations,

:04:51. > :04:56.It considered offences including misconduct in a public

:04:57. > :05:02.office and perverting the course of justice.

:05:03. > :05:05.The former West Yorkshire Chief Constable, Sir Norman Bettison,

:05:06. > :05:08.has revealed that he's been treated as a suspect by the IPCC.

:05:09. > :05:09.It isn't known whether he will face charges.

:05:10. > :05:11.Hundreds of investigators have been working from these offices

:05:12. > :05:20.for the last four years at a cost of ?100 million.

:05:21. > :05:23.There is an expectation that charges will be brought

:05:24. > :05:32.after such a long wait and such large-scale effort.

:05:33. > :05:33.That decision will be announced to the families

:05:34. > :05:38.Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower fire, Theresa May has called

:05:39. > :05:42.for a "major national investigation" into the use of cladding

:05:43. > :05:47.Every one of the samples tested from 95 buildings across England

:05:48. > :05:52.Our reporter Simon Jones is at a church in West London

:05:53. > :05:58.where people have been laying tributes to the victims.

:05:59. > :06:05.We have been talking to two women who know Grenfell Tower extremely

:06:06. > :06:10.well. You get the sense that there are so many questions still to be

:06:11. > :06:16.answered? Absolutely. I think you have seen the range of emotions over

:06:17. > :06:21.the past couple of weeks. Initially, the shock and dismay about what had

:06:22. > :06:25.happened. Then the anger and then the reflection and now, people

:06:26. > :06:29.definitely wanting answers. Now, there has been a letter written to

:06:30. > :06:40.Theresa May from local people saying they need a voice and there is some

:06:41. > :06:45.controversy this morning over the chairman Sir Ken Knight because he

:06:46. > :06:48.carried out an investigation into a previous fire in Camberwell that

:06:49. > :06:52.happened a few years ago. He said in that case that he didn't believe

:06:53. > :06:57.that high rises should be forced to fit sprinklers. He said in some

:06:58. > :07:01.cases, it is not economically viable or practical, it is up to the

:07:02. > :07:04.landlord, but that's something he's going to have to revisit. But the

:07:05. > :07:09.people here just want some answers and quickly. We have been speaking

:07:10. > :07:13.to one woman who lives in the shadow of the tower and hasn't been able to

:07:14. > :07:18.return home. A lot of people are further away and

:07:19. > :07:22.for different reasons. I know a lot of my friends and family who are in

:07:23. > :07:25.the tower don't want to be anywhere near the tower and are forced to

:07:26. > :07:29.have to pass it every single day because we have to come to the

:07:30. > :07:33.recovery aid centre that's next to the tower as well. My personally, I

:07:34. > :07:38.can't leave my community. I don't necessarily want to look at it, it's

:07:39. > :07:42.very hard to, but I'm always here. 8am in the morning I'm here and we

:07:43. > :07:47.leave at midnight to go home and sleep or to the hotel and sleep. So

:07:48. > :07:50.a huge effect it is having on residents. I want to show you where

:07:51. > :07:55.we are in relation to the tower. This is the church where people have

:07:56. > :07:57.been coming over the past couple of weeks, leaving flowers and

:07:58. > :08:01.displaying posters of people who have lost their lives or are

:08:02. > :08:04.missing, presumed dead. I think two weeks on, the big thing is the

:08:05. > :08:09.number of questions that still remain. How did this fire take hold

:08:10. > :08:13.so drastically? How many people died in it? That's a question we may

:08:14. > :08:16.never be able to answer. Simon, for the moment, thank you very much.

:08:17. > :08:18.Let's go to Westminster now and to our political

:08:19. > :08:23.Iain, Labour's going to be talking about the Grenfell Tower today

:08:24. > :08:29.to call for more spending for emergency services.

:08:30. > :08:35.That's right, Dan. I think Jeremy Corbyn will be accused by his

:08:36. > :08:39.opponents of trying to politicise the Grenfell tragedy. He certainly

:08:40. > :08:42.argued for greater funding for the police and the Fire Service since

:08:43. > :08:44.the fire occurred and it doesn't seem to have harmed him that

:08:45. > :08:49.approach and the opinion polls, but what it is trying to do today is to

:08:50. > :08:52.amend to change the Queen's Speech, the Government's programme, for the

:08:53. > :08:57.next two years to guarantee that extra funding. He won't win because

:08:58. > :09:01.Theresa May now has the support of ten DUP MPs from Northern Ireland.

:09:02. > :09:04.She can vote down this attempt by Labour in the Commons later on

:09:05. > :09:08.today. That's guaranteed, but I think what Jeremy Corbyn is going to

:09:09. > :09:12.try to do is embarrass Conservative MPs and try to make them feel

:09:13. > :09:15.uncomfortable if they are voting not just against extra funding for the

:09:16. > :09:20.emergency services, but also he is going to say that Labour would lift

:09:21. > :09:23.the public sector pay cap and on the doorsteps, Conservatives who lost

:09:24. > :09:28.the seats at the last election were saying that people felt that perhaps

:09:29. > :09:31.pay restraint and public spending cuts had gone on for too long.

:09:32. > :09:33.Effectively if Conservative MPs are going to be loyal to Theresa May,

:09:34. > :09:37.they're going to have to vote to keep that pay cap and there will be

:09:38. > :09:39.a clear dividing line between the main parties, but what the

:09:40. > :09:43.Conservatives are saying in response is look, if you really want decent

:09:44. > :09:46.public services, you need a strong economy to pay for them and that's

:09:47. > :09:51.something which Labour can't deliver. Iain, thank you.

:09:52. > :09:53.Sinn Fein has accused the Democratic Unionist Party

:09:54. > :09:55.of failing to give any ground in talks to restore devolved

:09:56. > :09:59.They say there had been no movement on the rights of Irish speakers

:10:00. > :10:04.But the DUP has insisted it has no red lines and accused

:10:05. > :10:06.Sinn Fein of being involved in a high-wire act.

:10:07. > :10:11.The deadline for reaching a deal is tomorrow afternoon.

:10:12. > :10:15.Services providing support for people who are older

:10:16. > :10:17.and disabled face more cuts, despite extra money being

:10:18. > :10:22.That's according to research by the directors of adult social

:10:23. > :10:31.The report says more than two-thirds of local authorities had to dip

:10:32. > :10:33.into their financial reserves last year to meet increasing demand.

:10:34. > :10:36.The government says it's provided more funding and will consult on how

:10:37. > :10:41.Former Top Gear presenter Richard Hammond has spoken

:10:42. > :10:44.for the first time about crashing a super car whilst filming

:10:45. > :10:54.He told the Drive Tribe website he was on a practice run for a race

:10:55. > :10:57.when the car veered off the road, tumbled down a hill

:10:58. > :11:07.I was aware that I was up, that I was high, that inevitably the car

:11:08. > :11:12.was going to come down. And yeah, of course, it was a moment of dread oh

:11:13. > :11:17.god, I'm going to die. And also I was aware that the car was taking

:11:18. > :11:22.just such a beating. If you look at those craters, that's a big hole

:11:23. > :11:27.which was impact. It looks like the thing has been dropped from space to

:11:28. > :11:32.have a hole that big. What was going through my mind well, this is it.

:11:33. > :11:34.He had a few scrapes in cars, hasn't he? That was while filming for the

:11:35. > :11:40.Grand Tour. Glad to see he's OK. First introduced as a way

:11:41. > :11:43.of combating crime, the power to stop and search members

:11:44. > :11:46.of the public is one of the most controversial aspects

:11:47. > :11:52.of British policing. In England and Wales,

:11:53. > :11:55.the use of it has more than halved But, in an exclusive interview,

:11:56. > :11:59.one of England's most senior police chiefs has told Breakfast

:12:00. > :12:01.he believes the drop in stop and search has led

:12:02. > :12:04.to a rise in knife crime. Our reporter Tim Muffett

:12:05. > :12:05.has the story. Everytime I go down,

:12:06. > :12:07.people are walking past like it's just a normal day,

:12:08. > :12:10.but that's where my life ended, On the same street in Leicester

:12:11. > :12:24.where Amy's son Tyler was stabbed to death in 2015,

:12:25. > :12:26.Sean was attacked one month before. They stabbed me once in my back

:12:27. > :12:29.which went straight into my artery. If I didn't survive this

:12:30. > :12:33.could be my mum sitting here feeling Amy and Shaun believe jail sentences

:12:34. > :12:38.for knife possession should be longer and that police should be

:12:39. > :12:41.stopping and searching If the stop-and-search was more

:12:42. > :12:48.present then I believe my son Across England and Wales,

:12:49. > :13:06.police are stopping and searching In 2011, there were more

:13:07. > :13:13.than 100,000 stop and searches. According to the most recent

:13:14. > :13:16.Home Office figures that number Those figures relate to searches

:13:17. > :13:25.for offensive weapons. Since 2011, overall knife crime has

:13:26. > :13:29.fallen, but in the past two years it Stop-and-search, legally done,

:13:30. > :13:37.is an absolutely vital Like all police chiefs,

:13:38. > :13:43.Mike Barton was told by the Home Office in 2014 that

:13:44. > :13:46.stop-and-search needed reform. It should be intelligence-led,

:13:47. > :13:51.more effectively targeted. Do you think there is a link

:13:52. > :13:54.between a national decrease in stop-and-search and the recent

:13:55. > :13:56.increase in knife crime? We have not done any hard science

:13:57. > :14:01.to say that there is a direct link, however, we are all bright people

:14:02. > :14:06.and we can all work it out and you've got to say that it's

:14:07. > :14:18.a reasonable hypothesis. West Midlands training centre and a

:14:19. > :14:22.stop and search exercise for officers. This force believes fewer

:14:23. > :14:28.searches can be just as effective. It is not about numbers. Since 2011,

:14:29. > :14:32.2012, we have reduced the amount of stop and searchs that we conduct,

:14:33. > :14:36.but the arrest remains the same. So it would appear now that we are

:14:37. > :14:41.targeting the right people, intell lens-led searches. The Home Office

:14:42. > :14:45.says it supports stop and search when carried out properly and there

:14:46. > :14:49.is no proven link between the number of searches and levels of knife

:14:50. > :15:01.crime. But as a police tactic, it remains controversial.

:15:02. > :15:04.We're joined now by Zubaida Haque who's from the race equality

:15:05. > :15:16.It is a vital part of the police armoury, would you agree? I am sure

:15:17. > :15:21.it is in terms of policing, I am sure they have their own motivations

:15:22. > :15:30.for stop and search, and it works in certain instances. The bigger

:15:31. > :15:38.question is, is it an effective strategy for addressing the knife

:15:39. > :15:43.crime and the causes of knife crime, and as important, what are the side

:15:44. > :15:48.effects? What is the counter-productive effect in terms

:15:49. > :15:56.of the impact on the community 's that it focuses on? I suppose it is

:15:57. > :16:01.which one you give more weight to. Do you see the correlation that

:16:02. > :16:08.knife crime goes down as stop and search goes up? I am a statistician,

:16:09. > :16:15.correlations are very complicated, in the sense that if you just say

:16:16. > :16:19.stop and search goes down and knife crime goes up, people she the two

:16:20. > :16:25.are connected, but we live in a society where there is a lot more

:16:26. > :16:31.going on. You have to ask broader questions, what else is going on in

:16:32. > :16:35.society? Knife crime is a symptom of violence that is going up as well.

:16:36. > :16:47.We need to talk about that as well. The other thing is there have been

:16:48. > :16:51.big cuts in youth services since 2010, approximately ?400 million has

:16:52. > :16:59.been cut from youth services, and they have been big cuts in policing.

:17:00. > :17:07.You have to ask, has not had an impact also on crime? And on knife

:17:08. > :17:11.crime? Because knife crime is a reflection of crime per se. We need

:17:12. > :17:18.to look at the wider context. The have to keep going back to the fact

:17:19. > :17:28.that stop and search might be good in particular instances, so it might

:17:29. > :17:34.begin in terms of... There are two reasons why people carry knives. One

:17:35. > :17:38.is for status. That is a less important reason, the major reason

:17:39. > :17:45.is for protection. Stop and search is quite good at addressing status

:17:46. > :17:53.related reasons for carrying knives, because if you take away someone's's

:17:54. > :17:58.knife then, they can think, street cred is not worth it, I would rather

:17:59. > :18:05.just get rid of the knife. But if you take away the knife from someone

:18:06. > :18:08.who is doing it to protect themselves because they fear for

:18:09. > :18:14.their safety, because they fear being victimised, they are likely to

:18:15. > :18:18.go and just get another weapon. A knife is a weapon of choice, take it

:18:19. > :18:22.away, they will either get another knife or another weapon. That is

:18:23. > :18:27.when it stopped and searched does not address the issue. We talked to

:18:28. > :18:32.somebody who had been stabbed, another young lad who had been

:18:33. > :18:37.stopped and searched, he said that it could be done in better ways.

:18:38. > :18:40.What do you say to those communities where young people are dying,

:18:41. > :18:49.especially in London, because of this crime? What do you say about

:18:50. > :18:56.how to stop it? It is not that it is a good tool, it depends how it is

:18:57. > :19:02.used. It is a tool. That is what I would say, there are other tools.

:19:03. > :19:11.Policing per se... Stop and search is about policing. What we have to

:19:12. > :19:15.think about is community policing, a more gentle way of working with

:19:16. > :19:25.communities are building trust with communities, not seeing communities

:19:26. > :19:29.viewing individual young black boys as suspect. Community policing has

:19:30. > :19:33.been a more effective crime prevention, working at grassroots

:19:34. > :19:38.level, getting intelligence from the community, parents trust you and

:19:39. > :19:42.young people trust you. They need to be able to trust police to look

:19:43. > :19:45.after their safety, because if they believe the police are looking after

:19:46. > :19:51.their safety, they will not feel they need to protect themselves.

:19:52. > :19:55.That is the crux of the issue. They fear for their own safety, which is

:19:56. > :20:00.why they carry knives are. So much to talk about.

:20:01. > :20:03.We are a little late for the weather, but an important discussion

:20:04. > :20:13.to be had. It is a wet start across many parts

:20:14. > :20:18.of the UK, and it has been a wet night. Expect a lot of standing

:20:19. > :20:25.water and surface spray. We have seen some torrential downpours over

:20:26. > :20:29.night and this morning. We have heavy downpours around the wash and

:20:30. > :20:36.Cambridge are and Lincolnshire. It curls around through Wales. The

:20:37. > :20:39.course of the morning, it will edge further north, and in Northern

:20:40. > :20:45.Ireland it will edge further south. It brightens up there, but the

:20:46. > :20:50.brightest guys will be in Scotland. Later, it brightens up across the

:20:51. > :20:54.south-east. Near the East coast, there is a cold wind from the North

:20:55. > :20:59.Sea, which is exacerbating the call feel. Into the afternoon, the rain

:21:00. > :21:04.across northern England, moving away from the south. As temperatures

:21:05. > :21:09.rise, it could spark some thundery showers. Full south-west England,

:21:10. > :21:15.the rain will be on and off through the day. It is the same for Wales.

:21:16. > :21:22.The rain will not be terribly far away. For Northern Ireland, the rain

:21:23. > :21:28.has moved south, so it has brightened up. The brightest sky in

:21:29. > :21:32.Scotland will be in the West, but there will be dry weather. Like the

:21:33. > :21:38.East of England, and onshore flow makes it feel cooler. Through this

:21:39. > :21:44.evening and overnight, the main advances northwards. The curl

:21:45. > :21:48.continues down through the south-west and into the English

:21:49. > :21:55.Channel. We are in pretty good shape temperature wise. Tomorrow we start

:21:56. > :22:03.with the rain across northern England, much of Scotland and

:22:04. > :22:08.Northern Ireland. It will be more showery in the South. But there will

:22:09. > :22:13.be a lot of dry weather around, some bright spots of anything. This cool

:22:14. > :22:17.wind coming from the North Sea, extending through the Irish Sea and

:22:18. > :22:26.the Bristol Channel and the English Channel. Under the rain, it is going

:22:27. > :22:32.to feel much cooler, especially on the East Coast. As we head from

:22:33. > :22:35.Thursday into Friday, the low-pressure tracks the weather

:22:36. > :22:43.front with it, taking the rain south. You can see the squeeze on

:22:44. > :22:51.the isobars. It will be windy. There will be some dry weather around as

:22:52. > :22:56.well. It will feel cooler in the wind.

:22:57. > :23:02.The garden needs rain! We all need rain!

:23:03. > :23:09.You have a hair on your shoulder! Excellent!

:23:10. > :23:15.Are we paying too much on pensions? The regulators say so.

:23:16. > :23:17.Shall I do a bit of business news? It is a team effort!

:23:18. > :23:20.You get on with that! The financial regulator has unveiled

:23:21. > :23:22.a crackdown on firms that manage our pensions and investments

:23:23. > :23:24.over complaints they're The market is worth ?7 trillion

:23:25. > :23:30.but critics say it's not clear what charges are imposed by fund

:23:31. > :23:33.managers and higher fees are eating into the value

:23:34. > :23:37.of our retirement savings. Three quarters of UK households

:23:38. > :23:41.currently have a pension invested It says that price competition

:23:42. > :23:46.is weak in a number Gina Miller from SCM Private has

:23:47. > :24:06.been campaigning against unfair fees I have the report here, they say

:24:07. > :24:10.price competition is weak, there are sustained high profits over a number

:24:11. > :24:15.of years. But it is not a revolution. It does not go far

:24:16. > :24:21.enough. It is a proconsumer agenda, but there is a lot of dragging here.

:24:22. > :24:26.This is one of the last industries when it comes to cartel like

:24:27. > :24:30.behaviour, and for ten years I have campaigned to say it has to stop,

:24:31. > :24:35.especially on fees, because about 50% of these are hidden. That is of

:24:36. > :24:44.people's hard earned money that they are handing over. It is wrong. You

:24:45. > :24:47.talk about it being a cartel, but first, why should we care about

:24:48. > :24:53.this? Why would anybody watching this care about fees that they might

:24:54. > :24:58.think about in ten, 20, 30 years? You are handing over your money, you

:24:59. > :25:05.want it to gross or you can look after yourself in your old age. You

:25:06. > :25:10.wanted to pay a fair fee, but you have a right to know what that is.

:25:11. > :25:16.50% of it has been hidden. You think you are paying 1% and you are

:25:17. > :25:22.getting a 5% return, if you are paying two or 3%, you are not

:25:23. > :25:26.getting a huge return on your money. It is the fund managers and the

:25:27. > :25:32.industry that are making a profit, not you, but it is your money, and

:25:33. > :25:36.also because of the ageing of our population, we have to have a better

:25:37. > :25:42.functioning industry. What would you like to see change? Some have

:25:43. > :25:46.described it as the last gravy train in the city, this old boys' club,

:25:47. > :25:52.there is no transparency. What do you want to see change? It is

:25:53. > :25:57.simple, as we do in every other walk of life, have a ticket price, 100%

:25:58. > :26:03.transparency, one single number so people can understand, and also in a

:26:04. > :26:08.format that is regulated, so you can make comparisons. One of the

:26:09. > :26:13.problems of this report is that it says that one single number for

:26:14. > :26:15.retail investors but for institutional investors they are

:26:16. > :26:19.going to give them a better deal and say there have to be a consistent

:26:20. > :26:23.format. Why should ordinary investors be treated as second-class

:26:24. > :26:29.Kapadia to professional institutional investors? Many people

:26:30. > :26:33.will recognise you from the campaign that the one against the Government

:26:34. > :26:43.about the parliamentary approval for Brexit. How different will financial

:26:44. > :26:48.services look after two? -- after Brexit? I have campaigned for this

:26:49. > :26:53.to ten years now, and the shock will come after Brexit, because it is not

:26:54. > :26:57.going to be the industry which has just been able to do as it once, it

:26:58. > :27:07.will have to fight much harder. As we have already seen, the EU almost

:27:08. > :27:14.clinical in the way they are coughing up some of our agencies.

:27:15. > :27:20.Banking may go to Frankfurt. The industry has to think about the

:27:21. > :27:25.impact of Brexit. More later.

:27:26. > :27:36.Earlier on, we talked about the Football League set up to stop -- to

:27:37. > :27:40.help men losing weight. Earlier on, this goal was scored, an absolute

:27:41. > :27:44.belter, and a proper celebration as well.

:27:45. > :27:46.I bet he is pleased that was on the TV.

:27:47. > :31:07.Did he get that? More shortly.

:31:08. > :31:22.Hello, this is Breakfast with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

:31:23. > :31:26.Let's bring you up-to-date with the latest news, and Sally will be here

:31:27. > :31:28.in a moment with the sport. A decision on whether anyone

:31:29. > :31:30.will face criminal charges over the Hillsborough disaster will be

:31:31. > :31:32.announced this morning. The Crown Prosecution Service

:31:33. > :31:34.will reveal its intentions at a meeting with victims'

:31:35. > :31:36.relatives this morning. 96 Liverpool fans died

:31:37. > :31:38.at the Sheffield ground Steve Kelly's brother Michael

:31:39. > :31:48.died in the disaster. It's paramount in this whole case

:31:49. > :31:52.to give the families respite and the survivors of Hillsborough

:31:53. > :31:55.and you know, to truly let Two weeks on from the Grenfell Tower

:31:56. > :32:08.fire, Theresa May has called for a "major national

:32:09. > :32:10.investigation" into the use of potentially flammable cladding

:32:11. > :32:15.on high rise buildings. Every one of the samples tested

:32:16. > :32:18.from 95 buildings across England Earlier on Breakfast we heard

:32:19. > :32:35.from Amanda Fernandez, who was evacuated from her home

:32:36. > :32:42.which is next to the Grenfell Tower. A lot of people are far away for a

:32:43. > :32:45.different reasons, a lot of people are forced to pass the tower daily

:32:46. > :32:49.because we have to come to the recovery centre which is next to the

:32:50. > :32:53.tower as well. For me, personally, I cannot leave my community. I don't

:32:54. > :32:57.necessarily want to look at it, it is difficult to. But at 8am every

:32:58. > :32:59.morning we are here, and we leave at midnight to go to the hotel and

:33:00. > :33:01.sleep. Labour says it will challenge MPs

:33:02. > :33:03.today to oppose further austerity. The party will call for more

:33:04. > :33:06.spending on the police and Fire Services, as an amendment

:33:07. > :33:08.to the Queen's Speech, as well as an end to the 1% cap

:33:09. > :33:13.on public sector pay rises. The Conservatives say only

:33:14. > :33:15.they will deliver the economy needed to properly fund the emergency

:33:16. > :33:20.services. Computer systems around the world

:33:21. > :33:22.have been hit by a major cyber-attack affecting banks,

:33:23. > :33:24.retailers, energy firms The companies have been

:33:25. > :33:30.told their computers will remain Experts who have examined the code

:33:31. > :33:35.say it's more sophisticated than the virus used in a global

:33:36. > :33:52.attack last month, This is your favourite story, so I

:33:53. > :34:00.will let you introduce it. Official Cowell news, everybody. -- cow news.

:34:01. > :34:03.And you may have heard the phrase "til the cows home".

:34:04. > :34:05.Well it happened to five-year-old Bella from Cheshire when she played

:34:06. > :34:07.her ukulele to a herd of cows in Llandudno.

:34:08. > :34:10.Here she is with just a few of the herd watching...

:34:11. > :34:19.A few members of the heard come in, and as she continues to play, they

:34:20. > :34:25.move in. I love what she tells her mum. The words are along the bottom

:34:26. > :34:30.of the screen, wait for what she says to her mum...

:34:31. > :34:45.I'm not sure how long she was there for. The cows are clearly enjoying

:34:46. > :34:49.it... Can I do my joke again? Moo-kelele! I'm far too pleased with

:34:50. > :34:51.myself! Matt Allwright's made his

:34:52. > :35:01.career cracking down on Rogue Traders and now he's back

:35:02. > :35:04.with a new series of Watchdog. He'll join us later,

:35:05. > :35:07.with a new addition to his team, She is taking some time off from

:35:08. > :35:14.Breakfast. From being the last governor

:35:15. > :35:17.of Hong Kong to media advisor to the Pope,

:35:18. > :35:19.Chris Patten's worn many He'll join us on the

:35:20. > :35:22.sofa before nine. I would like you to meet Meghan

:35:23. > :35:33.Markle! Oh, my God! Wills and Kate! And after nine, Comedy soap opera

:35:34. > :35:35.'The Windsors' is back. We'll be joined by the actors who

:35:36. > :35:38.play Prince Harry and Meghan Markle. I'm sorry I missed you... It means

:35:39. > :35:54.so much to me, that is Not listening? I was laughing inside

:35:55. > :36:00.at my own joke. In other news... LAUGHTER

:36:01. > :36:08.Have you done that before? Have I done it? Some bad news to bring you

:36:09. > :36:18.this morning... It's awful, sorry -- some bad moos. It's the same old...

:36:19. > :36:22.One of the things I wonder, this talented young team is coming

:36:23. > :36:27.through, I hope that they are not affected by what has happened. It is

:36:28. > :36:35.ready difficult, how do you get over that? You don't! Sorry, lads! It is

:36:36. > :36:37.psychology, stay strong! It's like a film script.

:36:38. > :36:39.Once again, England have lost the semifinal of a football

:36:40. > :36:43.This time it was the Under 21s European Championship -

:36:44. > :36:45.England came from behind to take the lead through

:36:46. > :36:48.But the Germans levelled and after extra time,

:36:49. > :36:50.Nathan Redmond penalty was saved - and the side followed

:36:51. > :36:53.the fate of the senior teams in 1990 and 1996.

:36:54. > :36:56.We've been practising for weeks but in the end of the two players

:36:57. > :36:59.you would put odds on to score every time, the goalkeeper makes

:37:00. > :37:01.a great save so we'll have to take that.

:37:02. > :37:04.It's been a real team effort and I think we can be pleased

:37:05. > :37:09.And in the end we've lost on a penalty shootout and next time

:37:10. > :37:18.Fifa officials investigating alleged corruption were told plans

:37:19. > :37:20.for England to play a friendly in Thailand to win backing

:37:21. > :37:23.for their own World Cup bid were "a form of bribery".

:37:24. > :37:25.The former FA Chairman Geoff Thompson made the admission

:37:26. > :37:27.when interviewed during a Fifa enquiry into the bidding process

:37:28. > :37:31.for the 2018 and 2022 tournaments, won by Russia and Qatar.

:37:32. > :37:32.England's cricketers thrashed Pakistan to get

:37:33. > :37:34.their Women's World Cup campaign back on track.

:37:35. > :37:38.Natalie Sivver and captain Heather Knight both hit their first

:37:39. > :37:39.one-day international centuries, as England reached

:37:40. > :37:42.Pakistan never got close, the rain intervened,

:37:43. > :37:59.Novak Djokovic entered the Aegon International

:38:00. > :38:04.in Eastbourne to get some much-needed grass court practice

:38:05. > :38:08.the good old British weather put paid to that -

:38:09. > :38:10.he only managed one game against Vasec Pospisil

:38:11. > :38:14.And Andy Murray pulled out of an exhibition match

:38:15. > :38:17.at the Hurlingham Club in London, because of a sore hip.

:38:18. > :38:20.It was just a precaution, though, and he is still expected

:38:21. > :38:22.to play there on Friday, before beginning the defence

:38:23. > :38:33.Can I just say, I've managed to get through the entire morning, today

:38:34. > :38:42.and yesterday, without saying popsicle for Vasek Pospisil. We will

:38:43. > :38:43.be keeping a close eye! We will be keeping an eye on you, Sally. Thank

:38:44. > :38:44.you. 20 years ago, Lord Patten

:38:45. > :38:46.and his family watched as the British flag was lowered over

:38:47. > :38:49.Hong Kong and was replaced The last of 28 colonial governors,

:38:50. > :38:54.he returned to the UK where he has since played a pivotal role

:38:55. > :38:57.in Northern Ireland's Peace process, acted as European Commissioner

:38:58. > :38:59.and become a media advisor For the first time,

:39:00. > :39:02.Lord Patten has written about his own experiences

:39:03. > :39:04.in a new book. We'll speak to him in just a moment,

:39:05. > :39:07.but first let's look back The two biggest political

:39:08. > :39:41.parties in Northern news that Chris Patten has

:39:42. > :39:44.been asked to chair the commission on the future

:39:45. > :40:21.of policing there. It is amazing... What a list of

:40:22. > :40:30.jobs. Nice to have you here. Nice to be

:40:31. > :40:35.back in this building. An extraordinary CV, so many things to

:40:36. > :40:40.talk to you about. Let's begin with, you know this from the heart of it

:40:41. > :40:44.all, about the Conservative Party. What is going on in there at the

:40:45. > :40:50.moment and what are your biggest concerns? Actions have consequences.

:40:51. > :40:54.We are coping with the consequences of two prime ministers who have made

:40:55. > :40:58.very bad decisions, trying to cope with the right wing nationalist wing

:40:59. > :41:03.of the Conservative Party. What worries me, at the moment, is that a

:41:04. > :41:10.barn is a bung is a bung, and while I love Northern Ireland, it's one of

:41:11. > :41:16.the most important thing is the country has done for years, but I do

:41:17. > :41:21.worry about what the bung will do to politics. That's how you describe

:41:22. > :41:24.the deal? Absolutely, if you are in Scotland, Wales, Cumbria or the

:41:25. > :41:29.Northeast, you think, if they can have that cash, why can't we?

:41:30. > :41:32.Figures suggest that Northern Ireland, the rest of the country may

:41:33. > :41:36.need more, it gets more public spending than other places. The

:41:37. > :41:39.Conservatives say that they are trying to manage the power that they

:41:40. > :41:45.don't have two hands-on and they signed the deal to make sure they

:41:46. > :41:48.have a majority in government, can you see that side of it? I don't

:41:49. > :41:53.believe that the DUP would have voted down a Conservative

:41:54. > :41:55.government, the alternative is Jeremy Corbyn, he has a certain

:41:56. > :42:00.relationship with the Republicans and Sinn Fein over the years, I do

:42:01. > :42:04.not think they would have voted down a conservative government. The worry

:42:05. > :42:08.is that over time it will weaken the peace process, in the attempt to set

:42:09. > :42:13.up a power executive. There is a real sense where it paints the

:42:14. > :42:17.Conservative Party. Newspapers will go into the opinions and backgrounds

:42:18. > :42:22.of some of these DUP members. I think they've already started, and

:42:23. > :42:27.it doesn't look too good. Given that and the fact that any time somebody

:42:28. > :42:33.wants a pay settlement in the public sector, nurses want more than 1% or

:42:34. > :42:37.whatever, they say, what about Northern Ireland? You've just given

:42:38. > :42:42.them ?1 billion for support in the House of Commons, why can't we have

:42:43. > :42:45.the money? During the campaign, the Prime Minister referred to a magic

:42:46. > :42:52.money tree... It is obviously growing in County Armagh! There's a

:42:53. > :42:56.fictional money tree... Yes, it is true, that people may be fed up with

:42:57. > :43:02.austerity, but we still have national debt which is higher than

:43:03. > :43:05.it was when we all started. While we should probably ease up on

:43:06. > :43:10.austerity, and deal with the fiscal deficit over a longer period, while

:43:11. > :43:13.people like me, the better off, should pay more tax, we cannot

:43:14. > :43:18.simply forget about the importance of controlling public spending. One

:43:19. > :43:23.more on the Conservatives, how long do you think Theresa May will be in

:43:24. > :43:26.power for? I don't know, I find it unseemly that a lot of her

:43:27. > :43:31.ex-colleagues want to dance on the grave. I think that she will be

:43:32. > :43:36.there as long as the Conservative Party find it difficult to discover

:43:37. > :43:39.anyone else they can rally around. Obviously, Brexit negotiations will

:43:40. > :43:44.be at the heart of that. We looked at your CV little, it is extremely

:43:45. > :43:50.impressive. Which was your toughest job? The toughest job was in

:43:51. > :43:56.Northern Ireland, dealing with police. The happiest job was being

:43:57. > :44:00.in Hong Kong, where we had a wonderful time. The most impossible

:44:01. > :44:05.job was being chairman of the BBC Trust. I was not chairman of the BBC

:44:06. > :44:08.but of the regulator and it was all impossible. The new structure is a

:44:09. > :44:12.much better one that does not deal with the real problem at the BBC, it

:44:13. > :44:19.does not have enough money. I would say that even if I wasn't on BBC

:44:20. > :44:25.television. You discuss it quite openly in the book as well... You

:44:26. > :44:28.pay 40p per day for the best radio and television service in the world,

:44:29. > :44:36.if anyone ever grumbles about it, they should be made to watch Fox

:44:37. > :44:42.News or television in Italy. You mentioned being media adviser to the

:44:43. > :44:47.Pope...? It was an attempt to reorganise the Vatican's media

:44:48. > :44:52.organisation. You cannot really advise the Pope, he is so wonderful,

:44:53. > :45:00.Pope John XXIII, and he is so funny. In the book there's a good story

:45:01. > :45:05.about him going across St Peter's Square, giving pilgrims a bowl of

:45:06. > :45:12.disgusting herbal drink... You know it! He takes the bowl, and has a

:45:13. > :45:18.swig and his bodyguard say, holy Father, never do that. He said, was

:45:19. > :45:22.the problem? They were pilgrims, and not Cardinals! He has a very sharp

:45:23. > :45:31.sense of humour. Yes, and he knows a lot of people find his particular

:45:32. > :45:34.way of expressing Christianity and generosity a field station for those

:45:35. > :45:40.with difficulties getting through life. Having strict standards but

:45:41. > :45:42.realising that generosity and forgiveness are the most important

:45:43. > :45:47.things. Some people find that difficult.

:45:48. > :45:54.You touch on Europe in the book. And you have been critical of the EU and

:45:55. > :45:59.their role in certain things as well. I wonder, your view now,

:46:00. > :46:03.looking from the outside in on the bricks and negotiations, where do

:46:04. > :46:08.you think we will be in five years? I don't know, and the trouble is,

:46:09. > :46:11.neither does the Government. During the election campaign, the Prime

:46:12. > :46:16.Minister talked about letting us get on with the plan. They don't have a

:46:17. > :46:19.plan. The person who has come nearest to expressing a sensible way

:46:20. > :46:22.of dealing with this difficult situation is Philip Hammond, but

:46:23. > :46:26.there is no way that you can be outside the EU and have the

:46:27. > :46:34.advantage of being inside. Do you have concerns for your former

:46:35. > :46:40.friends, residents in Hong Kong? I do have a few. After 1997 when the

:46:41. > :46:47.left, China, by and large, kept its hands off. It cut back the attempt

:46:48. > :46:50.to establish democracy, but otherwise, it was fairly distant. In

:46:51. > :46:58.recent years, there have been abductions of people in the street,

:46:59. > :47:01.a gradual tightening of the grip on Hong Kong, and China is asserting

:47:02. > :47:05.itself. We should, in this country, stand up for the people of Hong

:47:06. > :47:08.Kong, because we are responsible for them. Thank you for coming to talk

:47:09. > :47:09.to us. Chris Patten's booked is called

:47:10. > :47:14.First Confession: A Sort of Memoir. Nearly half of us want higher taxes

:47:15. > :47:17.to pay for more spending on health, education and social benefits,

:47:18. > :47:19.according to the British The study by the National Centre

:47:20. > :47:23.for Social Research also found people were becoming more sceptical

:47:24. > :47:25.of the EU. Nearly 3000 people took

:47:26. > :47:29.part in the survey. We've been getting

:47:30. > :47:37.some of your views. If you've not done anything

:47:38. > :47:39.wrong, then there's And if you're not

:47:40. > :47:43.saying anything wrong, then you won't get

:47:44. > :47:45.flagged up, will you? I'm on the side of very much,

:47:46. > :47:48.freedoms are, you know, we should fight for them,

:47:49. > :47:49.they are inalienable, and we shouldn't have

:47:50. > :47:52.to sacrifice freedoms, although we do have to weigh it up

:47:53. > :47:54.against things like protecting ourselves,

:47:55. > :47:55.so I don't necessarily

:47:56. > :48:00.think that we need to I think what we need is more

:48:01. > :48:04.education, because I think us, as people, we abuse the NHS,

:48:05. > :48:08.and I think more money should be spent on educating people in how

:48:09. > :48:10.to look after themselves so they don't have

:48:11. > :48:13.to use the NHS as much. People are already

:48:14. > :48:16.on 20-40% tax, so I think I think it's just how

:48:17. > :48:24.they decide to allocate it. We need skills in this

:48:25. > :48:27.country, here in Manchester and in the rest

:48:28. > :48:29.of the country, not just Therefore, you need

:48:30. > :48:33.the engineers, the doctors, the scientists, and they are welcome

:48:34. > :48:37.in this country, and I do think it's desirable that they can speak

:48:38. > :48:39.English, particularly northern Joining us now is Miranda Phillips

:48:40. > :48:56.from the National Centre Thank you for coming and discussing

:48:57. > :48:59.this with us. I don't want to summarise the whole thing, but I'll

:49:00. > :49:05.be becoming more kind to each other in the way we look at others? Yeah,

:49:06. > :49:10.a little kinder and more soft-hearted. We think there has

:49:11. > :49:14.been a reaction against austerity. There is increased support for

:49:15. > :49:18.higher taxation to spend more on public services like health,

:49:19. > :49:22.education and social benefits, and we see a softening of attitudes

:49:23. > :49:27.towards benefit recipients, too, so that sums it up in some ways. We are

:49:28. > :49:31.tougher in other areas, certainly in terms of national security. Is that

:49:32. > :49:35.because of what has happened recently? It is quite a big focus.

:49:36. > :49:41.It is a consistent finding over time. We have been working on

:49:42. > :49:44.tracking attitudes for over 30 years, and on national security,

:49:45. > :49:49.civil liberties and where the balance should lie, attitudes are

:49:50. > :49:53.very stable, and our data were collected before the recent attacks

:49:54. > :49:57.in Manchester and London, so I don't think it is a response to the most

:49:58. > :50:01.recent situation. You asked whether or not the Government should be able

:50:02. > :50:06.to tap into phones at times of heightened terrorist threat - what

:50:07. > :50:10.do people say? A clear majority are happy for things like that to

:50:11. > :50:13.happen, not just tapping phones but also an appetite for the Government

:50:14. > :50:20.to have more powers in terms of detention without trial. 53% say

:50:21. > :50:26.they would be happy for detention to happen indefinitely. Is that people

:50:27. > :50:28.becoming more Draconian? Interestingly, attitudes aren't

:50:29. > :50:33.changing on this particularly. This is a stable view for the public.

:50:34. > :50:37.They seem to feel that some infringement of Civil Liberties is

:50:38. > :50:42.acceptable when it comes to protecting citizens. Were you

:50:43. > :50:48.surprised by the findings? One of the most surprising findings is on

:50:49. > :50:53.attitudes to our personalise. We have seen a shift on attitudes to

:50:54. > :50:57.same-sex relationships, for example. In 1987, at the height of the AIDS

:50:58. > :51:06.crisis, just one in ten people thought they were not wrong at all,

:51:07. > :51:14.and that has gone up to 64% now, a huge change. It is the use of older

:51:15. > :51:19.groups and religious groups who are changing their views the most and

:51:20. > :51:23.the quickest, and they are the groups who would traditionally have

:51:24. > :51:28.been opposed to these things. Went to the next results,? Another year.

:51:29. > :51:32.We will need to get you to come back. -- when do the results come

:51:33. > :51:35.out next? Here's Carol with a look

:51:36. > :51:50.at this morning's weather. The rain is continuing to fall,

:51:51. > :51:54.rotating around this low-pressure area. It is heavy in eastern

:51:55. > :51:59.England. Behind it, it will brighten, but there could be

:52:00. > :52:03.thunderstorms. Northern Ireland will brighten up, but the driest weather

:52:04. > :52:09.will be across Scotland. The sunniest conditions will be in the

:52:10. > :52:12.West. Temperatures 12-19dC. This evening and overnight, rain advances

:52:13. > :52:17.to the North, getting through northern England, into Scotland and

:52:18. > :52:27.Northern Ireland. This cold wind comes in from the North Sea, and a

:52:28. > :52:32.range of temperatures from 11-13dC. Tomorrow, the rain will affect

:52:33. > :52:36.Scotland and Northern Ireland more, also affecting Wales. A lot of dry

:52:37. > :52:41.weather nonetheless. Sunshine comes through, but if you are exposed to

:52:42. > :52:45.the wind, it will feel a bit on the nippy side. Heading into Friday,

:52:46. > :52:54.this whole system starts to sink South and we can, so the rain coming

:52:55. > :53:00.south would be as heavy. The range is -- the wind changes direction to

:53:01. > :53:00.northerly. A few showers in the south. High temperature of 22

:53:01. > :53:09.Celsius. A Sikh shopkeeper who called his

:53:10. > :53:23.convenience store "Singhsburys" has come up with a new name

:53:24. > :53:25.after the supermarket chain The tiny shop in North Tyneside

:53:26. > :53:29.is now called "Morrisinghs". The shopkeeper is Jel Singh Nagra

:53:30. > :53:40.and he's in our Newcastle studio. Good morning to you. Tell me, you

:53:41. > :53:50.had to change the original name, did you? Yes. It was about six years

:53:51. > :53:57.ago. The name was chosen by the previous owner. I took over. It was

:53:58. > :54:02.a bit too close in terms of the font and colour to the supermarket, so we

:54:03. > :54:10.had to take it down. Were you testing Morrisons by going for

:54:11. > :54:14.Morrisinghs? Know. Everyone still called it Singhsburys, but with the

:54:15. > :54:19.post office closing down and there being a refit, we wanted to give it

:54:20. > :54:25.a new lease of life. We wanted to put it on the map as well, so we

:54:26. > :54:30.picked second back. How is it going with the new name? It has gone

:54:31. > :54:39.worldwide. It has been a crazy few days. It is banter, and us northerns

:54:40. > :54:43.like that. It hasn't done business any harm, and Morrisons have been

:54:44. > :54:51.absolutely brilliant. Is that Morrisons or Morrisinghs? Morrisons!

:54:52. > :54:55.So they have a sense of humour and they are happy for you to continue

:54:56. > :55:00.with that name? They have actually wish us luck and said that us and

:55:01. > :55:05.our customers have good taste. Are you thinking of rolling it out, this

:55:06. > :55:11.shop, having more of them? No, I am struggling to cope with this one,

:55:12. > :55:20.never mind another! It is hard. I am doing 90- odd hours a week, but I'm

:55:21. > :55:25.happy. I don't actually live in the area, but I travel there, and it is

:55:26. > :55:32.such a lovely place. If anyone is passing, come in. I love the way you

:55:33. > :55:35.are advertising the brand as well! Oh, yes! Do you have any sympathy

:55:36. > :55:40.for Sainsbury is trying to protect their brand? Yes, I do. The last

:55:41. > :55:47.time, it was the same colour and font as there is. There are other

:55:48. > :55:52.Sainsbury 's signs out there that are different colours and have been

:55:53. > :55:57.left alone, but ours was just too close. I inherited that when I took

:55:58. > :56:10.over the business. If you ever need to change Morrisinghs, you could go

:56:11. > :56:22.for, wait for it. Mac Marks Singhers. -- you could go for...

:56:23. > :56:27.Marks Singhers. There are a few out there. It is all good banter.

:56:28. > :56:30.Good luck. I think the shop will be full. The man behind the magnificent

:56:31. > :56:43.Singhsburys! -- Morrisinghs! Steph's here, and she's brought

:56:44. > :56:45.Matt Allwright with her. You're here to talk

:56:46. > :56:55.about Watchdog Live. What sort of things have you been

:56:56. > :57:00.covering? Is the programme changing? It is live and in Salford. I am not

:57:01. > :57:06.going to that London any more - bring it up yet! We will be live

:57:07. > :57:10.every Wednesday at 8pm, and we have loads of cracking stories. We are

:57:11. > :57:15.jamming the stuff in, every so much content. It is almost brimming over

:57:16. > :57:22.the top. Are we better at complaining these days? Mr

:57:23. > :57:28.Morrisinghs there was talking about how social media got things done

:57:29. > :57:42.weak that out there, and we use that to complain. -- social media gets

:57:43. > :57:49.things out there. People can achieve things by the end of the programme,

:57:50. > :57:52.that's the beauty of it being live. There are some things you have been

:57:53. > :57:56.looking at that people possibly won't want to know about over

:57:57. > :58:01.breakfast, but do tell us. We are doing our thing on hygiene every

:58:02. > :58:05.week, because it is quite scary... Look at your face, because you know

:58:06. > :58:08.what's coming. We did a test in various coffee shops around the

:58:09. > :58:12.country, and one of the things that came out as fairly shocking was when

:58:13. > :58:20.we tested the ice will stop you know the ice you get in your blended

:58:21. > :58:29.drinks in a copy shop? Summer drinks? -- coffee shop. There was a

:58:30. > :58:33.very unpleasant bacterium found on them. Without going into too much

:58:34. > :58:37.detail, it could have come from people not washing their hands

:58:38. > :58:47.properly and then serving the ice. Are we talking to? You weren't meant

:58:48. > :58:51.to say that! That's quite serious. We're talking about three of the

:58:52. > :58:55.biggest coffee chains here, and they have all said they are looking at

:58:56. > :59:02.their policies, retraining staff. They take it really seriously. Also,

:59:03. > :59:19.cost say they are changing the scoops that they use for serving the

:59:20. > :59:23.ice. -- Costa. We are looking at sales people and their practices.

:59:24. > :59:30.This week, we are looking at the company that sells a wall coating.

:59:31. > :59:34.And the way they selling it -- they sell it, and the way they cold call

:59:35. > :59:38.people, it's completely unacceptable. There is a customer of

:59:39. > :59:43.theirs who suffered from Alzheimer's who was told to leave the property

:59:44. > :59:50.at a comeback, not once but twice. The new series starts tonight at 8pm

:59:51. > :00:02.on BBC One. And I will be back at one point. I'm not going completely.

:00:03. > :00:04.Six weeks. I'm getting sleep! You know how I feel about that, Steph.

:00:05. > :00:08.Well done! It's called Man v Fat -

:00:09. > :00:10.a football competition 24 leagues across the UK set up

:00:11. > :00:17.specifically to help Set up up two years ago,

:00:18. > :00:21.the men taking part have so far lost a combined total of more

:00:22. > :00:23.than 4,000 stone. Kat Downes is pitchside

:00:24. > :00:38.in Manchester for us this morning. The numbers are staggering? They

:00:39. > :00:42.are. I will speak to somebody who lost 27% of his body weight. Through

:00:43. > :00:45.playing football, getting into weight loss by playing football,

:00:46. > :00:50.changing lifestyles completely. That is what it is all about, getting men

:00:51. > :00:54.engaged in weight loss and changing the way that they eat and the way

:00:55. > :01:04.that they live. Getting more active and healthy. Some zumba classes and

:01:05. > :01:08.Bikini diets did not work, these men got together with other guys to shed

:01:09. > :01:14.stones, and it has been successful. 3000 men across the country have

:01:15. > :01:19.lost a combined total of more than 30 tonnes. I'm joined by the founder

:01:20. > :01:25.ducking the footballs on the side of the here. We are in serious danger

:01:26. > :01:31.he! What gave you the idea to set this up? The fact that there was

:01:32. > :01:36.nothing out there for men. There was injustice, everything seemed to be

:01:37. > :01:38.targeted exclusively at women. There didn't seem to be anything suitable

:01:39. > :01:44.for men that would provide support and provide accountability. When you

:01:45. > :01:49.are looking to lose weight. And how does it work? Goals on the pitch

:01:50. > :01:51.count but also weight loss goals? It is all about combining scores

:01:52. > :01:57.between those weighing is that we have before the game and on the

:01:58. > :02:02.pitch. Between those, we get the final score for the game and that is

:02:03. > :02:07.how we decide on matches. The camaraderie and teamwork, run us

:02:08. > :02:17.through those team names, we've been loving it. They are all generated by

:02:18. > :02:22.players, things like Chafing the Dream, and in Manchester we had B-17

:02:23. > :02:29.Stone Raises! And you are the dietician who works with the group,

:02:30. > :02:34.is not all about working with football? Men have seen dieting is

:02:35. > :02:37.something that women do that we underpin everything that they do

:02:38. > :02:41.with healthy eating lifestyle changes that make such a big

:02:42. > :02:46.difference long-term. The teamwork and working for a team, scoring

:02:47. > :02:53.points, with nutritional principles, that is working for these guys.

:02:54. > :03:00.Then, you lost 27% of your body weight. You bought so much into the

:03:01. > :03:04.philosophy that you are now a coach with the group. That philosophy gets

:03:05. > :03:08.everyone to stick with their goals of weight loss, how important is it

:03:09. > :03:16.that you have these guys you play football with? It is easy to let

:03:17. > :03:21.yourself down and say, you start next Monday, but if you delay, you

:03:22. > :03:26.could get minus points. It is important to get straight to it.

:03:27. > :03:35.Brilliant, your story is remarkable. The guys have been playing for BBC

:03:36. > :03:40.Breakfast Benefit, we have several teams and I can hand the BBC

:03:41. > :03:44.Breakfast man versus that trophy to the winning team this morning. Thank

:03:45. > :03:48.you for giving up your time and playing hours of football. The

:03:49. > :04:03.winning team is... Manchester! CHEERING

:04:04. > :04:09.CLAPPING STUDIO: Locale much it means. And

:04:10. > :04:12.earlier on, Dan, you spotted an excellent goal?

:04:13. > :04:15.Earlier on when we were talking to Kat - there was a brilliant goal

:04:16. > :04:23.A quick turn of pace and a big curl into the corner. Absolutely

:04:24. > :04:30.fantastic. Not a bad touch for a big fella. And he will have lost weight,

:04:31. > :04:35.scoring goals because of the weight that he lost. So many people have

:04:36. > :04:39.asked about it today. If you go onto BBC Breakfast social media today,

:04:40. > :04:43.there's more information about how you can sign up. And if you lost

:04:44. > :04:44.your target weight, I was concerned you could not play any more but you

:04:45. > :04:47.can. Congratulations to our winners. That's all from me this morning, I

:04:48. > :06:23.look at the headlines That's all from me this morning, I

:06:24. > :06:30.will be back with lunchtime news at 1:30pm.

:06:31. > :06:32.Scheming, affairs, and a close call to overthrow the Monarchy -

:06:33. > :06:35.there was a lot to pack in to the last series

:06:36. > :06:38.of 'The Windsors' - which is a comedy soap opera

:06:39. > :06:46.This year is no different, with the addition of actor

:06:47. > :06:48.Kathryn Drysdale, who plays Prince Harry's new

:06:49. > :06:52.We'll meet her in a moment, as well as Richard Goulding who's

:06:53. > :06:57.First, let's take a look at the new series.

:06:58. > :07:03.She's feeling a little unsure of herself, I'm taking her to meet dad

:07:04. > :07:10.and Camilla later. I can give you some pointers... Would you? They can

:07:11. > :07:16.be more for more than us... I think we said the Dresden china, Baines.

:07:17. > :07:20.Let's begin, now. Listen, broke, I'm worried about this meeting with dad

:07:21. > :07:24.and Camilla. Great-uncle Edward had to abdicate because he fell in love

:07:25. > :07:31.with an American divorcee. How did you know that? By watching The Crown

:07:32. > :07:34.on Netflix. Meghan is an American divorcee, I cannot be expected to

:07:35. > :07:41.learn another language by living in France. That was years ago, the

:07:42. > :07:42.modern royal family is completely different now. No, Baines, that is

:07:43. > :07:45.the Devonport! It is so naughty! I was caught

:07:46. > :08:03.Singh, when you see -- I was corpsing! Does that happen

:08:04. > :08:08.a lot on set? Yes, I was asked who was the worst at corpsing, and I

:08:09. > :08:12.thought it was me. It happens a lot, it's a very funny show. What is the

:08:13. > :08:17.reaction? Take us back to the first series, did you expect it to go down

:08:18. > :08:21.so well? To be honest, I didn't. I thought it would be a little

:08:22. > :08:28.shocking and on the edge. It felt like a one-off experiment. But it

:08:29. > :08:31.has caught the element of the public imagination in some way, I've never

:08:32. > :08:35.been recognised on the streets before and that has happened. You

:08:36. > :08:39.talk about it being shocking and on the edge, maybe that is where the

:08:40. > :08:43.humour has to come from? Absolutely, it's important to do stuff that has

:08:44. > :08:49.ruffled a few feathers and I think it has in certain quarters but that

:08:50. > :08:56.is a good thing. Did you watch the first series? I did, I already knew

:08:57. > :08:59.Hugh, who plays Prince William, I absolutely loved it. I barely

:09:00. > :09:06.laughed. When you play a character like Meghan Markle, -- I really

:09:07. > :09:11.laughed. When she comes to this country she is on the front pages of

:09:12. > :09:15.the newspapers, people talk about her all the time. Does that come

:09:16. > :09:19.with responsibility, as well as that comedy element? I think so, there is

:09:20. > :09:23.a fascination with her at the moment. But because the world of The

:09:24. > :09:28.Windsors is very different, there is so much we can get away with. The

:09:29. > :09:35.freedom, especially within my wardrobe... I did not feel too much

:09:36. > :09:39.of a huge pressure to represent the real Meghan Markle. Exactly, you,

:09:40. > :09:46.presumably, do not think he represent the real Prince Harry...?

:09:47. > :09:51.But they are the royal family. Some people hold them very dear. And

:09:52. > :09:56.there you are, colouring them, really? There are some elements

:09:57. > :10:01.where it is important to be mindful that you are playing a real person

:10:02. > :10:05.who is alive, and as Harry recently said in the press, has a sensitive

:10:06. > :10:10.side. Comments about his own mental health and so one, we are very

:10:11. > :10:14.respectful of that. I wanted to mention that, in the last week he

:10:15. > :10:19.has revealed so much about what he has been through. It must impact

:10:20. > :10:26.you, in some ways? It impacts on everybody, what he says is brave and

:10:27. > :10:30.important. There is that side of it, but The Windsors is a ridiculous

:10:31. > :10:35.flight of fancy and does not bear any resemblance to the real people.

:10:36. > :10:40.In the end, I think, for all of its naughty humour, it is rather

:10:41. > :10:47.touching. I love that you have played Prince Harry in two different

:10:48. > :10:52.series! In The Crown, King Charles the third committee played Harry,

:10:53. > :10:59.that was a feature length film. Twice, that must be a result, as an

:11:00. > :11:05.actor? I don't have ginger hair, but as soon as it is dyed ginger, people

:11:06. > :11:10.say, you must played Prince Harry? I say yes, I'm a professional Prince

:11:11. > :11:13.Harry! Do you have any anecdotal evidence, have you heard anything

:11:14. > :11:19.about any of the Royal family possibly watching this? You have,

:11:20. > :11:23.haven't you? I did, I heard a rumour that possibly Beatrice watched it,

:11:24. > :11:29.but I don't know if that was true. The first day on set, I said, I

:11:30. > :11:33.don't know if you know that they watch it... A couple of crew members

:11:34. > :11:37.said that it was possibly Beatrice, but I do not know if that is true.

:11:38. > :11:45.What is good from your point of view is that there is a new character to

:11:46. > :11:49.play! I know! That is great from the point of view of the series. It can

:11:50. > :11:54.reinvent itself, having fresh characters in it every year, however

:11:55. > :12:03.often it may happen... Especially if they marry... Exactly! Have you

:12:04. > :12:03.planned your dress? ... Yes! You have freedom

:12:04. > :12:12.over the wardrobe, as you say. All of the best for the second series.

:12:13. > :12:16.Have you met Prince Harry yet? No, I would really like to. It would be

:12:17. > :12:20.lovely to have a drink with him one day, and apologise. You say you are

:12:21. > :12:23.a professional Prince Harry, do you think they are watching the

:12:24. > :12:26.programme somewhere and having a giggle? I would love to think that

:12:27. > :12:31.they would sit down and have time to have a beer and giggle at us doing a

:12:32. > :12:35.version of themselves but no. I doubt they have time and would give

:12:36. > :12:38.two figs about it! I appreciate your honesty! Thank you.

:12:39. > :12:41.The Windsors is on next Wednesday evening on Channel 4 at 10 o'clock.

:12:42. > :12:49.Thank you to both of you. We will leave you this morning with some of

:12:50. > :12:53.the tributes outside of the church near Grenfell Tower. It is two weeks

:12:54. > :12:58.on from the disaster that killed at least 79 people. We spoke to

:12:59. > :13:03.residents there this morning. With powerful testimony from them, the

:13:04. > :13:06.feeling in the community where there are so many unanswered questions.

:13:07. > :13:10.The Victoria Derbyshire show is there this morning on BBC Two,

:13:11. > :13:15.speaking to survivors and trying to get answers to some of those

:13:16. > :13:16.questions. That's all from us on BBC Breakfast, back tomorrow, goodbye

:13:17. > :13:22.for now. Across the country,

:13:23. > :13:28.11 million people But how would their landlords manage

:13:29. > :13:33.living as tenants?