02/12/2017 - Part 2

0:00:03 > 0:00:06Hello, this is Breakfast with Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt.

0:00:06 > 0:00:12Coming up before 9.00, Darren Bett will have a summary of the weather.

0:00:12 > 0:00:17But first, at 8.30, this is this morning's main news:

0:00:17 > 0:00:20Donald Trump's former national security advisor, Michael Flynn,

0:00:20 > 0:00:22is prepared to testify against the President's

0:00:22 > 0:00:26son-in-law, Jared Kushner, according to US media reports.

0:00:26 > 0:00:29It's thought Mr Flynn, who pleaded guilty to making false

0:00:29 > 0:00:32statements to the FBI, will say he was directed to hold

0:00:32 > 0:00:36discussions with Kremlin officials by senior members of Trump's

0:00:36 > 0:00:39campaign team, including Mr Kushner.

0:00:39 > 0:00:43The White House says Mr Flynn has implicated no-one but himself.

0:00:43 > 0:00:46The UK National Cyber Security Centre has warned government

0:00:46 > 0:00:47departments not to use Russian anti-virus software

0:00:47 > 0:00:52if their computers contain sensitive information.

0:00:52 > 0:00:56The Russian company, Kaspersky Lab, was banned from US government

0:00:56 > 0:00:58networks earlier this year, because of concerns it had ties

0:00:58 > 0:01:02to intelligence agencies in Moscow.

0:01:02 > 0:01:04The company denies having links to the Kremlin.

0:01:04 > 0:01:06Despite its warning, the National Cyber Security Centre

0:01:06 > 0:01:13says the general public shouldn't be concerned about using the software.

0:01:13 > 0:01:15Our guidance is to choose an anti-virus product that

0:01:15 > 0:01:19meets your needs and does well in industry standard tests.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21We're not saying, and we specifically say this

0:01:21 > 0:01:24in our guidance on the blog, that we are not telling people

0:01:24 > 0:01:27to rip out Kaspersky willy-nilly because that

0:01:27 > 0:01:28makes no sense.

0:01:28 > 0:01:31This is about entities that may be of interest to the Russian

0:01:31 > 0:01:36government, so for us that's about national security

0:01:36 > 0:01:38systems in government, of which there are very small

0:01:38 > 0:01:42number, and for example if you have a business negotiation

0:01:42 > 0:01:47that the Russian government may be interested in.

0:01:47 > 0:01:48Two former police officers who leaked allegations that

0:01:48 > 0:01:52pornographic images had been found on the Tory minister,

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Damian Green's computer, were in "flagrant breach"

0:01:55 > 0:01:59of their own code of conduct, according to the former

0:01:59 > 0:02:00Attorney General, Dominic Grieve.

0:02:00 > 0:02:03Mr Green, now the First Secretary of State, has repeated his

0:02:03 > 0:02:04insistence that he didn't view pornographic material

0:02:04 > 0:02:06on the computer.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08The former Attorney General said he found the behaviour

0:02:08 > 0:02:17of the ex-officers troubling.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19They choose to put material that an ordinary citizen would be

0:02:19 > 0:02:22prohibited from acquiring under data protection rules into the public

0:02:22 > 0:02:23domain on their own judgment...

0:02:23 > 0:02:25Now, there is a way of dealing with that.

0:02:25 > 0:02:28If you think something is relevant, you do it by proper, official means.

0:02:28 > 0:02:31You do not go freelancing, as these two officers have done,

0:02:31 > 0:02:34and it has the smack of the police state about it.

0:02:34 > 0:02:36Pope Francis is spending his final day in Bangladesh,

0:02:36 > 0:02:39after using his highly-anticipated Asia trip to express support

0:02:39 > 0:02:42for the Rohingya Muslims.

0:02:42 > 0:02:45Yesterday, the Pope met a group of refugees and referred to them

0:02:45 > 0:02:48using the word "Rohingya" for the first time.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50He was criticised for not using the term on his earlier visit

0:02:50 > 0:02:55to Myanmar, which does not regard them as an ethnic group.

0:02:55 > 0:02:57White House officials have indicated that President Trump is likely

0:02:57 > 0:02:59to announce next week that the United States

0:02:59 > 0:03:04will recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06The status of Jerusalem is highly contentious,

0:03:06 > 0:03:09with both Israelis and Palestinians claiming all or part

0:03:09 > 0:03:12of the city as their capital.

0:03:12 > 0:03:14Critics have warned that the decision by Donald Trump

0:03:14 > 0:03:19could jeopardise peace negotiations.

0:03:19 > 0:03:22It's feared there could be hundreds of job losses at Toys R Us,

0:03:22 > 0:03:24after the retailer announced it would close around

0:03:24 > 0:03:25a quarter of its UK stores.

0:03:25 > 0:03:27The move, which would see the closure of 25 shops,

0:03:27 > 0:03:30is part of a deal by the owners to renegotiate debts

0:03:30 > 0:03:31with its landlords.

0:03:31 > 0:03:33It's thought christmas trading and gift vouchers will not be

0:03:33 > 0:03:39affected by the move.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42Refugee families who are being resettled in the UK from Syria,

0:03:42 > 0:03:45should not be forced to split up, and be allowed to bring children,

0:03:45 > 0:03:47up to the age of 25, with them.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50The British Red Cross is calling for current rules to be relaxed,

0:03:50 > 0:03:53so that older family members are not left behind in war zones.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56This week, the Home Office announced that over the past two years around

0:03:56 > 0:03:589,000 Syrians had been allowed into the UK under its Vulnerable

0:03:58 > 0:04:03Person Resettlement Scheme.

0:04:03 > 0:04:04Let's be clear.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07We are talking about children who are part of the family unit.

0:04:07 > 0:04:08People watching this now, think of your family,

0:04:08 > 0:04:11the children who still live at home, who may be away studying.

0:04:11 > 0:04:13That's what we're talking about.

0:04:13 > 0:04:14Let's bring those families back together.

0:04:14 > 0:04:17Families belong together.

0:04:17 > 0:04:20A new scheme, which aims to recognise more places and people

0:04:20 > 0:04:22with historic importance, is set to be launched

0:04:22 > 0:04:23by Historic England.

0:04:23 > 0:04:26The heritage body wants people to suggest sites that deserve to be

0:04:26 > 0:04:27permanently acknowledged, but aren't already

0:04:27 > 0:04:30marked with a plaque.

0:04:30 > 0:04:34The campaign will be piloted over three years.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37A huge waterspout has formed off Italy.

0:04:37 > 0:04:40It was spotted off the coast of Sanremo, before moving

0:04:40 > 0:04:44inland as a tornado.

0:04:44 > 0:04:46The weather phenomenon caused significant damage to the city,

0:04:46 > 0:04:53but luckily no-one was hurt.

0:04:53 > 0:04:58With the wind gathers and the force of that draws water up into the air.

0:04:58 > 0:05:03This phenomenon and dead cause damage to the city. We will see

0:05:03 > 0:05:07pictures -- the phenomenon and caused significant damage to the

0:05:07 > 0:05:12city. You can see items from boats being whipped up by winds and water.

0:05:12 > 0:05:20But luckily nobody was hurt. Dramatic images.

0:05:20 > 0:05:268:35am is the time. Now the sport. Later on... We will know who is the

0:05:26 > 0:05:31rugby league World Cup winner. Will it be Australia again? There

0:05:31 > 0:05:34are so confident and they have won three out of the last four are not

0:05:34 > 0:05:38even the lead story in the Brisbane Times but forth on their website.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42England are in the imagine anything could happen.

0:05:42 > 0:05:45England must play on the overconfidence by Australia and can

0:05:45 > 0:05:49draw on the heard of some years ago when they did not even make it into

0:05:49 > 0:05:53the final because of New Zealand in London at Wembley. They can draw on

0:05:53 > 0:05:59those years of hurt and then back to 1995 when England were in last place

0:05:59 > 0:06:03in the World Cup final and guess who they lost to? Australia and

0:06:03 > 0:06:06Australia have already beaten them in the group stages of this year's

0:06:06 > 0:06:10permit. But the gap at because these travelling fans are confident there

0:06:10 > 0:06:16can provide a big upset. I'm very helpful.

0:06:16 > 0:06:18Cos I've put a big bet on.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20Really good atmosphere, but I think the home of

0:06:20 > 0:06:22rugby league is back in the UK.

0:06:22 > 0:06:23We started it.

0:06:23 > 0:06:25We need the England boys to win, for sure.

0:06:25 > 0:06:2622 years, man, come on!

0:06:26 > 0:06:29England this year have just been so much better than recently,

0:06:29 > 0:06:32so, you know, we are actually in the chance, I think.

0:06:32 > 0:06:34We've been around all day and we've been around all week,

0:06:34 > 0:06:36actually, and it's been all week.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40The final is live on BBC One, where the build-up is already under way.

0:06:40 > 0:06:42You can also follow the match on Radio 5 Live

0:06:42 > 0:06:45and via the BBC Sport website.

0:06:45 > 0:06:50We will keep you up-to-date on BBC Two as well and the news channel.

0:06:50 > 0:06:54Down in Brisbane, England are warming up in the dark blue shirts

0:06:54 > 0:06:59and not a sell-out but Australia are overconfident. They are hoping for

0:06:59 > 0:07:0240,000 fans inside the stadium. There is the captain for today, Sam

0:07:02 > 0:07:11Burgess. McLauchlan is injured. Popping over 40,000 inside and

0:07:11 > 0:07:1452,000 capacity stadium. 6000 England fans from England

0:07:14 > 0:07:20supporting, and there will be a fantastic atmosphere full of

0:07:20 > 0:07:24friendly rivalry and banter. A great shot of the warm up from above as

0:07:24 > 0:07:30they swing there are likes. Sam Burgess is the captain today. He was

0:07:30 > 0:07:33captain in the four Nations and has experienced. Australia taking a lie

0:07:33 > 0:07:40down and a stretch. Insight into how they warm up with the exercises...

0:07:40 > 0:07:44Just like the breakfast team here. Yes, that is what we were doing.

0:07:44 > 0:07:48England looked relaxed and they have learned a lot from their opening

0:07:48 > 0:07:54game defeat against Australia. 18-4. Brian Noble earlier was saying that

0:07:54 > 0:08:01he thinks England will produce a surprise today. He was the last

0:08:01 > 0:08:05person to inspire a victory for Great Britain and it was not England

0:08:05 > 0:08:13over Australia back in 2006, was it? Some pictures of

0:08:13 > 0:08:15buses... And now the cricket.

0:08:15 > 0:08:17We've had two rain interruptions on day one

0:08:17 > 0:08:19of the second Ashes Test, but play well under

0:08:19 > 0:08:20way again in Adelaide.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22England made an early breakthrough, after some confusion

0:08:22 > 0:08:23between the Australian openers.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25They tried to take advantage of a miss-field from

0:08:25 > 0:08:33England, but it backfired.

0:08:33 > 0:08:38Australia are getting on top despite that early breakthrough.Yes,

0:08:38 > 0:08:41Australia 137-2 in their first innings. The sun has been peeking

0:08:41 > 0:08:46out from behind the crowds in Adelaide, which was nice. We have

0:08:46 > 0:08:49had some like the rain delays this afternoon and the weather has not

0:08:49 > 0:08:54been inviting for the thousands of fans that were queueing up here

0:08:54 > 0:09:01outside the stadium earlier on today. 53,000 in total, which is a

0:09:01 > 0:09:05record for the Adelaide Oval. It was cold and Chile. It was damp and it

0:09:05 > 0:09:13was not pleasant for the fans, and barely had they played away than we

0:09:13 > 0:09:17had to link the rain delays, so they could regroup. England won the toss

0:09:17 > 0:09:23and they chose to bowl a brave move from Joe route. They did eventually

0:09:23 > 0:09:28make the breakthrough for an unlikely source, a run out. Cameron

0:09:28 > 0:09:34Bancroft, a run out by Chris Wouk 's 410. It was a right old mix-up from

0:09:34 > 0:09:41the Australian openers. A mis-field from Moeen Ali. To run out Cameron

0:09:41 > 0:09:45Bancroft... A superb field from him and then they lost a second wicket

0:09:45 > 0:09:52later. The other opener, David Warner, cot behind off the bowling

0:09:52 > 0:09:56of Chris, 47. Australia were two down at that point. They should

0:09:56 > 0:10:00thankfully be three down because another has been dropped in the

0:10:00 > 0:10:04team. He reached his half-century and captain Steve Smith is in.

0:10:04 > 0:10:08Interesting verbal exchange between Steve Smith and Stewart broad. Some

0:10:08 > 0:10:14bad blood you sense between teams. Australia going nicely, 137-2.

0:10:14 > 0:10:20How much pressure is there on England? They lost the opening test

0:10:20 > 0:10:23in Brisbane. Michael Vaughan has been saying this test in Adelaide is

0:10:23 > 0:10:28a must win because they like playing these days night matches with the

0:10:28 > 0:10:37pink rather than Red Bulls. Gas,-- read balls.

0:10:37 > 0:10:40The first Ashes day night test and the first time they have been using

0:10:40 > 0:10:44one of these, a pink ball, and this was the one they were using. Moeen

0:10:44 > 0:10:47Ali was bowling with this, so thank you to England for letting us borrow

0:10:47 > 0:10:53it. It is pink because it is easier to see under floodlights than the

0:10:53 > 0:10:58traditional red one. But there is a sense that it does behave

0:10:58 > 0:11:01differently as well. Simply during the twilight session, which is

0:11:01 > 0:11:05coming up over the next hour or so, a sense that it does swing a bit

0:11:05 > 0:11:10more. That in favour of the England bowlers, like Jimmy Anderson, and

0:11:10 > 0:11:14Stewart broad, are good and I can all swing. More tricky for the

0:11:14 > 0:11:17batsman to pick up under floodlights. The next hour or so

0:11:17 > 0:11:20could be pivotal for England. They will need to make this pink ball

0:11:20 > 0:11:25swing and get it into this Test match.

0:11:25 > 0:11:31Thank you very much. And the Swiss, you must get that ball signed and

0:11:31 > 0:11:36then bring it back to the kids as a souvenir. Now let's speak to

0:11:36 > 0:11:40somebody in London. What have you made a reaction so far? Do you agree

0:11:40 > 0:11:43with Michael Vaughan, because it is a day and night match with the pink

0:11:43 > 0:11:48ball, England have to win it? Yes, England have been positive.

0:11:48 > 0:11:51There was negativity around this and everybody talking about, if we could

0:11:51 > 0:11:55get out of Brisbane with a draw it would be superb. We lost and got

0:11:55 > 0:12:02hammered. It in by ten wickets. In Adelaide, straightaway Arisaig --

0:12:02 > 0:12:10there is a positivity. England bowled the new pink hole and

0:12:10 > 0:12:16snowballing into twilight. Two shots to bowl out Australia. -- the pink

0:12:16 > 0:12:19ball. Positivity is there anything in there and have bowled with

0:12:19 > 0:12:23aggression and a plan but Australia has just started to get on top of

0:12:23 > 0:12:26this. It looks great behind you in the pub

0:12:26 > 0:12:32in London. Just take us back to your days, when people were sledging in

0:12:32 > 0:12:34Australia, because Jimmy Anderson said it was the worst he had known.

0:12:34 > 0:12:41How that might affect the Ashes tour?

0:12:41 > 0:12:46Once you got through the airport in Australia, it starts. The media are

0:12:46 > 0:12:50on your back, and you realise there will be a battle from start to

0:12:50 > 0:12:57finish. And the young lads in the first Tents, they will do absolutely

0:12:57 > 0:13:01superb. The only ones who will be angry will be our tail and when they

0:13:01 > 0:13:08got stuck in... They got stuck into Route, and big players for us, so an

0:13:08 > 0:13:13ethical ready yards in again, from England, you have seen and

0:13:13 > 0:13:16aggression to Smith, the captain, they attacked Smith. Trying to get

0:13:16 > 0:13:21on top and show that. You should see... I am drinking IPA with people

0:13:21 > 0:13:25here. Australians are watching here and watching the game together. It

0:13:25 > 0:13:31has been fantastic. There is probably more here than out there on

0:13:31 > 0:13:33the pitch. Will have do hope for England that

0:13:33 > 0:13:43they can try to get some more wickets in the session after dinner.

0:13:43 > 0:13:47And other lager brands are available and many will be drunk, I imagine,

0:13:47 > 0:13:51today. Is there an excuse for an early

0:13:51 > 0:13:58table, since the rugby is on at 9am? Decadent at... Even at an airport,

0:13:58 > 0:14:02you see people having lager at an airport at this time of day.

0:14:02 > 0:14:04Quite closely seen the odd tipple.

0:14:04 > 0:14:06Pub landlords have been toasting England's World Cup draw,

0:14:06 > 0:14:10because all of their games in Russia will be played at 7pm in the evening

0:14:10 > 0:14:11or Sunday afternoon,

0:14:11 > 0:14:20so people don't have to take time off work.

0:14:20 > 0:14:24They can all get together to watch, perhaps in a pub.

0:14:24 > 0:14:26Diego Maradona was the man who pulled England's name out

0:14:26 > 0:14:28of the pot in the Kremlin.

0:14:28 > 0:14:30Gareth Southgate's side are in a group with Belgium,

0:14:30 > 0:14:33Tunisia and Panama, but he says a good draw on paper

0:14:33 > 0:14:41doesn't mean anything, given England's recent World Cup record.

0:14:41 > 0:14:44We've been good at writing teams off and then getting beaten,

0:14:44 > 0:14:47so we have to make sure that we're prepared for all of those games.

0:14:47 > 0:14:49It's fantastically exciting to be here for the draw

0:14:49 > 0:14:50with every other coach.

0:14:50 > 0:14:52It's been a great experience and really looking forward

0:14:52 > 0:14:53to getting on with it.

0:14:53 > 0:14:56The big game in the Premier League today is the evening kick-off

0:14:56 > 0:14:57between Arsenal and Manchester United.

0:14:57 > 0:15:00Celtic play Motherwell in Scotland, and the FA Cup continues.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03Last night, non-league AFC Fylde, earned a replay

0:15:03 > 0:15:06with Wigan Athletic of League One, Danny Rowe's penalty

0:15:06 > 0:15:08giving them a 1-1 draw.

0:15:08 > 0:15:12So both sides will be in Monday's third-round draw.

0:15:12 > 0:15:15Newcastle snatched a very late victory at Northampton,

0:15:19 > 0:15:24There is no Dan Walker in the studio because he is travelling for the FA

0:15:24 > 0:15:27Cup. He goes on tour and I think he is going to Fleetwood today. Find

0:15:27 > 0:15:32out where he is at 12 o'clock. I think it is power hour so don't miss

0:15:32 > 0:15:33it.

0:15:33 > 0:15:35Alfie Hewett has joined Gordon Reid in the semi-finals

0:15:35 > 0:15:36of the Wheelchair Tennis Masters.

0:15:36 > 0:15:39He came from a set down to beat Stephane Houdet of France.

0:15:39 > 0:15:41Reid and Hewett are the reigning Wimbledon doubles champions.

0:15:41 > 0:15:43There's live coverage from Loughborough on the BBC Sport

0:15:43 > 0:15:46website and connected televisions from 11.00.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48Tiger Woods said he'd proved his latest back

0:15:48 > 0:15:51operation had been a success, after he shot another under-par

0:15:51 > 0:15:54round, at the Hero World Challenge in the Bahamas.

0:15:54 > 0:15:57It's his first tournament for almost a year, but he's now seven under,

0:15:57 > 0:15:59at the half-way stage, tied for fifth place.

0:15:59 > 0:16:01Charley Hoffman is the leader.

0:16:01 > 0:16:08England's Tommy Fleetwood who was leading is three shots back.

0:16:08 > 0:16:13It is so busy with the World Cup final and rugby league to begin.

0:16:13 > 0:16:17People have been asking about the new year but Wales and South Africa

0:16:17 > 0:16:20is in rugby union. Last of the autumn internationals. You were

0:16:20 > 0:16:27edging to tell me something about pink bowls or coloured balls?

0:16:27 > 0:16:31Do you know how Andy Smith was talking about the pink cricket ball.

0:16:31 > 0:16:36And the red Cricket ball. There is a thing in golf, they are

0:16:36 > 0:16:39introducing... There have always been coloured balls but there is a

0:16:39 > 0:16:43new brand and one of them is read and I was trying to play with this,

0:16:43 > 0:16:47and one of the things I noticed, you know opposite colours, you learn

0:16:47 > 0:16:52your opposite colours... Red and green are opposite... Actually, it

0:16:52 > 0:16:56looks very difficult. I found it difficult to hit it because of the

0:16:56 > 0:17:00stark contrast between green and red. It is against the grass but I

0:17:00 > 0:17:05wondered how that would affect the game? When you have got such...

0:17:05 > 0:17:10White... It is similar. No, green and red because it is

0:17:10 > 0:17:12against grass. The pink ball is not that different

0:17:12 > 0:17:16to the red ball but if you go in golf from a white ball to a rebel it

0:17:16 > 0:17:23is a jumper. Charlie drinks his cup of tea. A tumbleweed flies over...

0:17:23 > 0:17:26I don't think there is a tumbleweed that it is interesting the way

0:17:26 > 0:17:30colours about sports. Changing technology...

0:17:30 > 0:17:36A lot of players play domestically, so it probably takes some getting

0:17:36 > 0:17:39used to. And technology goes across different

0:17:39 > 0:17:42sports. They pick up ideas against each other.

0:17:42 > 0:17:50Rugby league final pick-up at nine. Australia start 71 on.

0:17:50 > 0:17:52It's 8.46 and you're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

0:17:52 > 0:17:53The main stories this morning:

0:17:53 > 0:17:55Donald Trump's former security advisor, who admitted lying

0:17:55 > 0:17:58to the FBI, could be prepared to testify against the

0:17:58 > 0:18:03President's son-in-law over contacts with Russia.

0:18:03 > 0:18:05Government departments are being advised not to use

0:18:05 > 0:18:07anti-virus software from the Russian company, Kaspersky Lab,

0:18:07 > 0:18:13because of concerns it has links to the Kremlin.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19Here's Darren Bett with a look at this morning's weather.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22Here's Darren Bett with a look at this morning's weather.

0:18:22 > 0:18:25Still quite cold across the eastern side of England this morning. Slowly

0:18:25 > 0:18:31but surely weather is changing. We will find it turning milder through

0:18:31 > 0:18:35the weekend. Rather than blue skies and wintry showers we have got more

0:18:35 > 0:18:39cloud this weekend and the cloud is thick and will give us rain and

0:18:39 > 0:18:44drizzle from time to time. A dull picture with cloudy skies for many

0:18:44 > 0:18:47through the morning. Rain and drizzle across East Anglia and South

0:18:47 > 0:18:52East, fading away and damp towards the south-west. Rain coming in

0:18:52 > 0:18:55towards the north of Scotland. We will hang on to cloudy skies and

0:18:55 > 0:19:01some drizzly showers across Wales. Also the south-west and into the

0:19:01 > 0:19:03Midlands perhaps. Temperatures struggling up the eastern side of

0:19:03 > 0:19:08England, especially Southeast and East Anglia, five or six Celsius,

0:19:08 > 0:19:10quite cold. Sunshine perhaps north-eastern part of England and

0:19:10 > 0:19:15East Pennines and the Scotland a glimmer of brightness, and Northern

0:19:15 > 0:19:19Ireland, too, and some rain and stronger winds for the northernmost

0:19:19 > 0:19:22part of Scotland. Wetter weather over the Highlands. What happens

0:19:22 > 0:19:27this evening and overnight is patchy, mostly light rain sinking

0:19:27 > 0:19:29further south, moves away from Scotland at the Northern Ireland

0:19:29 > 0:19:32coming to Wales... Through northern England was the Midlands and East

0:19:32 > 0:19:37Anglia. Weather front. Keep the temperature up as the cloud breaks,

0:19:37 > 0:19:40behind that in Scotland it could turn chilly. Otherwise a mild night

0:19:40 > 0:19:45ahead. Really cold are we had recently, actually all the way into

0:19:45 > 0:19:47the near continent. Instead, although we have high pressure

0:19:47 > 0:19:52towards the West, rounded up of it, we are drawing down some milder air.

0:19:52 > 0:19:56Having said that, a chilly start across eastern Scotland, sunshine

0:19:56 > 0:19:59for a while across Scotland, and we will seek cloud breaking up in

0:19:59 > 0:20:03northern England, so a chance of sunshine and perhaps improving

0:20:03 > 0:20:06through the day across East Wales, Midlands and East Anglia and maybe

0:20:06 > 0:20:10the south-east were temperatures will be higher than today, nine or

0:20:10 > 0:20:1510 Celsius. Across the western UK, cloudy and dull. Damp as well. This

0:20:15 > 0:20:19is how we start the new week, cloudy skies were many again, best chance

0:20:19 > 0:20:25of sunshine across the eastern side of the UK. Mild start at nine or 10

0:20:25 > 0:20:27Celsius. Middleweight could get rather wet and then called are

0:20:27 > 0:20:32returned by the end of the week. Back to you. -- middle of the week

0:20:32 > 0:20:33could get wet.

0:20:33 > 0:20:36The UK's largest ATM network, Link, is proposing an overhaul that

0:20:36 > 0:20:38could see a significant reduction in the number

0:20:38 > 0:20:39of free-to-access cash machines.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41In response to the plans announced last month,

0:20:41 > 0:20:43the Chair of the Commons Treasury Select Committee, Nicky Morgan,

0:20:43 > 0:20:46has written to the company for more details on the numbers likely

0:20:46 > 0:20:47to be affected.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50Paul Lewis from Radio 4's Money Box programme has been looking

0:20:50 > 0:20:51at the plans and joins us now.

0:20:51 > 0:20:54at the plans and joins us now.

0:20:54 > 0:20:57We have got accustomed to the idea of a cash machine we don't have to

0:20:57 > 0:21:03pay for, but they are present. That is right, and a great many are

0:21:03 > 0:21:07operated by private companies, 24,000 privately operated machines.

0:21:07 > 0:21:11They are free to use or free to us. They make their money because every

0:21:11 > 0:21:17time we use one, the banks that run the Link network you mentioned

0:21:17 > 0:21:21earlier, the banks that run that network pay them a fee. And the

0:21:21 > 0:21:26banks want to cut at the because at the moment it is 25p every time we

0:21:26 > 0:21:32use a machine. In future they want it to be 20p. It may not sound much

0:21:32 > 0:21:38but that is good to by a fifth. We are using the cash machines less

0:21:38 > 0:21:43often because we are doing more contactless payments. The private

0:21:43 > 0:21:47operators have got fewer people using machines and now they are

0:21:47 > 0:21:50facing a reduced fee and it is them who say that could mean a lot of

0:21:50 > 0:21:54machines will simply be taken away. So carry on that thought process,

0:21:54 > 0:22:02what will be? -- what will be affect the edit happens?

0:22:02 > 0:22:06Nicky Morgan, chair of the Treasury Select Committee, says there will be

0:22:06 > 0:22:09fewer machines. She is trying to buy now from Link what its assessment is

0:22:09 > 0:22:13because it has not produced an estimate. She is concerned they will

0:22:13 > 0:22:17be taken away from places where people do not have access to banks,

0:22:17 > 0:22:23and we have heard this week another 300 branches are closing between

0:22:23 > 0:22:29Lloyds and RBS. That is in the next few months. So we will have fewer

0:22:29 > 0:22:32banks and they operate some machines on their own premises, and possibly

0:22:32 > 0:22:36fewer cash machines as well. She is concerned there will be people who

0:22:36 > 0:22:41don't have access to cash machines in their locality, or if they do,

0:22:41 > 0:22:43there will be some of these that charge you to get your own money

0:22:43 > 0:22:47out, which is often £1.50 or thereabouts.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50What about the banks? What do they say?

0:22:50 > 0:22:54The banks say they want things to be more efficient. What that seems they

0:22:54 > 0:22:58mean is they want to be paying the private operators less and I think

0:22:58 > 0:23:04they really... The implication is they want to slow the expansion of

0:23:04 > 0:23:08free to use cash machines by saying, well, you will not get paid as much

0:23:08 > 0:23:12money. So it would be that worthwhile. The banks say it is

0:23:12 > 0:23:15efficiency but there is a formula which works out this 25p fee and

0:23:15 > 0:23:19they are planning to scrap that. They will actually reduce the fee at

0:23:19 > 0:23:24a time when under the formula it probably should be increasing. They

0:23:24 > 0:23:29are just setting efficiency and cash machine operators say, well, no, it

0:23:29 > 0:23:32is not efficiency cabana but they are trying to squeeze us out and we

0:23:32 > 0:23:35will be taking thousands of machines away. It is a battle between the

0:23:35 > 0:23:40two. Where will and, that depends on the discussions that are going on.

0:23:40 > 0:23:43The intervention of Nicky Morgan this week is an interesting part of

0:23:43 > 0:23:48that, I think. Thank you very much, presenter of

0:23:48 > 0:23:51Money Box.

0:23:51 > 0:23:53When Billy White was living on the streets in Wigan,

0:23:53 > 0:23:57little did he know his life would be turned around thanks to a chance

0:23:57 > 0:24:00meeting with a man who offered him a cigarette on Remembrance Sunday.

0:24:00 > 0:24:03That man was Roy Aspinall.

0:24:03 > 0:24:06We'll speak to them in a moment, but first here's Katie Wray

0:24:06 > 0:24:10with more details on why their meeting was so special.

0:24:10 > 0:24:11Roy Aspinall, former infantryman with

0:24:11 > 0:24:16the Queen's Lancashire Regiment,

0:24:16 > 0:24:17and Billy White, until recently, sleeping rough

0:24:17 > 0:24:19on the streets of Wigan.

0:24:31 > 0:24:33They were strangers until on Remembrance Day they found

0:24:33 > 0:24:34themselves in the same churchyard.

0:24:34 > 0:24:37Billy was sitting outside on a wall when Roy approached him.

0:24:37 > 0:24:39I grew up without knowing all his siblings.

0:24:39 > 0:24:42Billy knew he had a big brother but no idea where to find him.

0:24:42 > 0:24:44After the men met, they compared birth certificates,

0:24:44 > 0:24:46and that's when they realised they were siblings.

0:24:46 > 0:24:47Billy is no longer homeless.

0:24:47 > 0:24:50Just in time for Christmas, he's moved in with his big brother.

0:24:50 > 0:25:00Katie Wray, BBC News.

0:25:00 > 0:25:05Brothers, Roy Aspinall and Billy White, welcome.

0:25:05 > 0:25:07Good morning. Morning.

0:25:07 > 0:25:12This is a great story. A fantastic story.

0:25:12 > 0:25:18We saw how you both met through a chance meeting, but the detail of it

0:25:18 > 0:25:24really is, how did you know? How did you recognise parts of each other? I

0:25:24 > 0:25:31will be honest, I do not see it. What was it?

0:25:31 > 0:25:36It was the old photographs I had, old photographs of my mother and he

0:25:36 > 0:25:39does have a lot of features of my mother.

0:25:39 > 0:25:42OK. That was what caught my eye on the

0:25:42 > 0:25:49churchyard. We took it from there. Were you drawn to Billy?

0:25:49 > 0:25:58Yes, and no. Do are not aiming? It is not an everyday thing.

0:25:58 > 0:26:00No, but... When he came over to me, I thought,

0:26:00 > 0:26:04who is this? You don't usually get random people coming over,

0:26:04 > 0:26:07especially when they ask you questions like, who is your mum and

0:26:07 > 0:26:13who is your sister? I thought... Did it happen that quickly? Take us

0:26:13 > 0:26:18through the encounter. You walk up to Billy...

0:26:18 > 0:26:20Yes, and it was just initial chat from there.

0:26:20 > 0:26:26You are saying, how are you doing? I started it with a cigarette, to be

0:26:26 > 0:26:30honest. I offered a homeless man a cigarette, and the facial features

0:26:30 > 0:26:33caught my eye, and I could not resist.

0:26:33 > 0:26:37You said, what did you say? I asked his name and he said, Billy

0:26:37 > 0:26:43White. But I have a memory ofWilliam White

0:26:43 > 0:26:46is a little child. The odds are putting it together was

0:26:46 > 0:26:49slim. The next you said was?

0:26:49 > 0:26:55I rang our sister who I met at the beginning of this year, Liz. And I

0:26:55 > 0:26:58rang her and she confirmed it and she had not seen him for 15 years or

0:26:58 > 0:27:02more. I let them talk on my mobile phone, and once it was confirmed,

0:27:02 > 0:27:07that was it. The background to this is a

0:27:07 > 0:27:11fractured family from when you were young. Can you put this into context

0:27:11 > 0:27:15for as? We were split up when we were young.

0:27:15 > 0:27:19I never saw Roy until Rundgren Sunday, the first time in 28 years

0:27:19 > 0:27:26of my life. A big shock for me. -- Remembrance Sunday. At is when we

0:27:26 > 0:27:29were younger. I'll lived with my mother until the age of ten and then

0:27:29 > 0:27:35from ten to 17 I was put into the care system and we were moving

0:27:35 > 0:27:38radically different children's homes. One got out of care, I was

0:27:38 > 0:27:41back staying with my mother, and my mum moved to Ireland and I went

0:27:41 > 0:27:46there to stay with her for a while but then came back over here. From

0:27:46 > 0:27:51there, everything... I met my partner, which... That's where

0:27:51 > 0:27:55everything went downhill from, really. I lost my partner and ended

0:27:55 > 0:27:59up being on the streets. Things were getting worse and worse for me while

0:27:59 > 0:28:03I was on the streets. I was getting to a point in my life where I just

0:28:03 > 0:28:08wanted... That was it. You had given up.

0:28:08 > 0:28:11Yes, literally. He also lost a child in 2013, which

0:28:11 > 0:28:16was sad. You have a difficult time, and you

0:28:16 > 0:28:21were at a low point... Of my life.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24Then this happens. In other circumstances, if you are doing fine

0:28:24 > 0:28:27this the surgery, but feels more important because of your

0:28:27 > 0:28:32circumstances. My life went from nothing to... It

0:28:32 > 0:28:35is still coming around and things are still happening. Every day, you

0:28:35 > 0:28:40know what I mean? I am getting myself into employment due to my

0:28:40 > 0:28:42brother taking me in off the streets.

0:28:42 > 0:28:45Double things like having an address, isn't it?

0:28:45 > 0:28:50I am managing to get stability and finances for my son as well, because

0:28:50 > 0:28:53I have to fight for my son at the minute, which is a difficult thing

0:28:53 > 0:28:57to do, as well as keeping stress from being when I was homeless and

0:28:57 > 0:29:03everything like that, and problems and everything...

0:29:03 > 0:29:07A place of support from Ben has helped me to pass it on.

0:29:07 > 0:29:13We one of those people who has... You went up to what you thought was

0:29:13 > 0:29:15a stranger and it turned out to be different.

0:29:15 > 0:29:18Yes. Is that in your nature?

0:29:18 > 0:29:27Not at all. It is just a role that I have picked up within the Ed's Place

0:29:27 > 0:29:30organisation that I volunteer my time for. It was a poke in the dark.

0:29:30 > 0:29:34I went that way and I was not supposed to walk that way in the

0:29:34 > 0:29:41church. I just decided to go that way to catch the bus. And I find

0:29:41 > 0:29:43this guy. Some things are meant to be and it

0:29:43 > 0:29:46is lovely to see the two of you together.

0:29:46 > 0:29:51Ears like my guardian angel. Someone is definitely looking over

0:29:51 > 0:29:54us. Family Christmas?

0:29:54 > 0:29:57Definitely. We hope there are more of us out

0:29:57 > 0:30:02there that we don't know of yet that do want to come and...

0:30:02 > 0:30:05Yes. Coming to our family unit as well,

0:30:05 > 0:30:08you know? Life is about family and you should not be separated or live

0:30:08 > 0:30:12away from your family. No, that is very true.

0:30:12 > 0:30:16I like the fact that I have this all the brother that I knew I had but I

0:30:16 > 0:30:21had never seen him. I did not know he was alive and had kids or

0:30:21 > 0:30:22anything? Enjoy your Christmas and I am

0:30:22 > 0:30:25pleased for you.

0:30:25 > 0:30:27Coming up in the next half hour...

0:30:27 > 0:30:29We'll be reviewing this morning's papers with the writer

0:30:29 > 0:30:30and broadcaster, Simon Fanshaw.

0:30:30 > 0:30:33Stay with us - headlines coming up.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27Hello, this is Breakfast with Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt.

0:31:27 > 0:31:30The investigation into Russian meddling in the US election closes

0:31:30 > 0:31:31in on President Trump's inner circle.

0:31:31 > 0:31:34His former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn admits lying

0:31:34 > 0:31:38to the FBI as US media reports that he's prepared to implicate

0:31:38 > 0:31:48the president's son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

0:31:55 > 0:31:58Good morning, it's Saturday the 2nd of December.

0:31:58 > 0:32:05Also this morning:

0:32:05 > 0:32:07A big day for England fans in Brisbane as they get ready for

0:32:07 > 0:32:11the Rugby League World Cup final.

0:32:11 > 0:32:14Yes, England will face the hosts Australia whom they haven't beaten

0:32:14 > 0:32:23since 1995, which was also the same year they were last in the final.

0:32:23 > 0:32:26They lost to Australia. Here are the players coming out in Brisbane.

0:32:26 > 0:32:28Here are the players coming out in Brisbane.

0:32:28 > 0:32:29Cyber security experts warn government departments

0:32:29 > 0:32:31against using Russian anti-virus software, saying it

0:32:31 > 0:32:40could be exploited.

0:32:40 > 0:32:43Do you want to see my beard? I have a real beard.

0:32:43 > 0:32:45I have a real beard.

0:32:45 > 0:32:46The Christmas Grotto with a difference -

0:32:46 > 0:32:49how one mum has created a "silent Santa" night to help

0:32:49 > 0:32:55children with autism enjoy the festive season.

0:32:55 > 0:32:57England's untold history - the public is asked to nominate

0:32:57 > 0:33:05places that deserve to be part of a new national memorial scheme.

0:33:05 > 0:33:11Our weather could not be more different this weekend. We have got

0:33:11 > 0:33:15milder Atlantique air with a lot of cloud and rain, not a great deal of

0:33:15 > 0:33:20sunshine, but the temperatures are rising.

0:33:20 > 0:33:23US media reports say Donald Trump's former

0:33:23 > 0:33:24national security adviser, Michael Flynn, who has

0:33:24 > 0:33:27admitted lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russia,

0:33:27 > 0:33:29is prepared to give testimony that implicates the President's

0:33:29 > 0:33:31son-in-law, Jared Kushner.

0:33:31 > 0:33:34Mr Flynn has agreed to co-operate with an investigation

0:33:34 > 0:33:37into Russian meddling in the US Presidential election.

0:33:37 > 0:33:40It's thought he'll tell investigators he was taking

0:33:40 > 0:33:43directions from senior members of Donald Trump's campaign team.

0:33:43 > 0:33:46The White House says Mr Flynn has implicated no-one but himself

0:33:46 > 0:33:49in the investigation.

0:33:49 > 0:33:54Our Washington Correspondent Laura Bicker has more.

0:33:54 > 0:33:57Michael Flynn, a retired three star general, left the court

0:33:57 > 0:33:59in Washington to a familiar chant.

0:33:59 > 0:34:01"Lock him up."

0:34:01 > 0:34:04He'd once encouraged Donald Trump supporters to use a similar version

0:34:04 > 0:34:07against rival Hillary Clinton.

0:34:07 > 0:34:10The 58-year-old played a key part in Mr Trump's campaign

0:34:10 > 0:34:12and often travelled with him.

0:34:12 > 0:34:15If I did a tenth, a tenth of what she did,

0:34:15 > 0:34:18I would be in jail today.

0:34:18 > 0:35:10He was rewarded with the post of national security adviser,

0:36:02 > 0:36:04Kaspersky is used by consumers and businesses as well as some parts

0:36:04 > 0:36:07of government to protect systems from criminals and hackers.

0:36:07 > 0:36:10But now a new warning about Russian anti-virus software,

0:36:10 > 0:36:13amid fears it could be used for spying.

0:36:13 > 0:36:15Secrets of global significance...

0:36:15 > 0:36:19At Britain's National Cyber Security Centre,

0:36:19 > 0:36:21they say they've not seen actual proof of such espionage,

0:36:21 > 0:36:24but they've told government departments not to use Kaspersky

0:36:24 > 0:36:29for systems containing sensitive data.

0:36:29 > 0:36:33This is specifically about entities that may be of interest

0:36:33 > 0:36:35to the Russian government and so for us that's

0:36:35 > 0:36:38about national security systems in government,

0:36:38 > 0:36:41of which there are a very small number.

0:36:41 > 0:36:43Kaspersky Lab has already denied allegations that it's been used

0:36:43 > 0:36:45for espionage in America.

0:36:45 > 0:36:48We don't do anything wrong.

0:36:48 > 0:36:53They are just speculating about some rumours, opinions

0:36:53 > 0:36:58and there is zero of the hard data.

0:36:58 > 0:37:01400 million people use Kaspersky products around the world,

0:37:01 > 0:37:03but officials say they're not telling the general

0:37:03 > 0:37:07public to stop using it.

0:37:07 > 0:37:10Kaspersky Lab denies any wrongdoing, but today's warning is another sign

0:37:10 > 0:37:16about growing fears over the risk posed by Russia.

0:37:19 > 0:37:22The conduct of two former police officers

0:37:22 > 0:37:24who leaked allegations that pornographic images had been found

0:37:24 > 0:37:27on the computer of the now First Secretary of State,

0:37:27 > 0:37:29Damian Green, have been criticised by the former

0:37:29 > 0:37:31Attorney General, Dominic Grieve.

0:37:31 > 0:37:34Mr Green has repeated his insistence that he didn't view the material.

0:37:34 > 0:37:44Our political correspondent Tom Barton joins us now.

0:37:44 > 0:37:48There are reports on the front pages that the Cabinet is split over this

0:37:48 > 0:37:55issue. There were threats of resignation from David Davies who

0:37:55 > 0:37:58said Damian Green had not been treated fairly. There is an issue

0:37:58 > 0:38:03with the way the information is coming out.Yes, that is right.

0:38:03 > 0:38:11After those further claims yesterday, by a second former Met

0:38:11 > 0:38:14Police officer surrounding these allegations, that pornography was

0:38:14 > 0:38:17found on his computer in his Parliamentary office and was seized

0:38:17 > 0:38:22in a police raid in 2008, we have seen his colleagues in the

0:38:22 > 0:38:35Conservative Party rallying around him. The Brexit secretary David

0:38:35 > 0:38:38Davis said he should not go. Last night on Newsnight the former

0:38:38 > 0:38:43Attorney General questioned the conduct of the officers making these

0:38:43 > 0:38:43allegations.

0:38:43 > 0:38:46conduct of the officers making these allegations.

0:38:46 > 0:38:48They choose to put material that an ordinary citizen would be

0:38:48 > 0:38:51prohibited from acquiring under data protection rules into the public

0:38:51 > 0:38:52domain on their own judgment.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54There is a way of dealing with that.

0:38:54 > 0:38:57If you think something is relevant, do it by proper, official means.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00You do not go freelancing as these officers have done and it has

0:39:00 > 0:39:06the smack of a police state about it.

0:39:06 > 0:39:12Damian Green is the Prime Minister's closest police will ally, the second

0:39:12 > 0:39:17most important person sat around the Cabinet table, and he has

0:39:17 > 0:39:20consistently denied these allegations. But this row matters

0:39:20 > 0:39:25because it puts his word, his denial, it pits that against the

0:39:25 > 0:39:30Word of two former serving Met Police officers. Senior government

0:39:30 > 0:39:36officials are investigating this. The Cabinet Office ethics chief Sue

0:39:36 > 0:39:41Gray is carrying out a review. Both into these allegations and separate

0:39:41 > 0:39:47allegations, also denied by Damian Green, of inappropriate conduct

0:39:47 > 0:39:50towards a Conservative Party activists. We are told the Prime

0:39:50 > 0:39:55Minister could receive her report in the next few days.Thank you very

0:39:55 > 0:39:58much, we will be covering it very closely in the next few days.

0:39:58 > 0:39:59closely in the next few days.

0:39:59 > 0:40:02Pope Francis is spending his final day in Bangladesh after using his

0:40:02 > 0:40:04highly-anticipated Asia trip to express support for

0:40:04 > 0:40:05the Rohingya Muslims.

0:40:05 > 0:40:08Yesterday, the Pope met a group of refugees and referred to them

0:40:08 > 0:40:10using the word "Rohingya" for the first time.

0:40:10 > 0:40:12He had been criticised for not using the term

0:40:12 > 0:40:18on his earlier visit to Myanmar.

0:40:18 > 0:40:22It does not regard them as an ethnic group.

0:40:22 > 0:40:25White House officials have indicated that President Trump is likely

0:40:25 > 0:40:26to announce next week that the United States

0:40:26 > 0:40:28will recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

0:40:28 > 0:40:30The status of Jerusalem is highly contentious,

0:40:30 > 0:40:32with both Israelis and Palestinians claiming all or part

0:40:32 > 0:40:34of the city as their capital.

0:40:34 > 0:40:37Critics have warned that the decision by Donald Trump

0:40:37 > 0:40:39could jeopardise peace negotiations.

0:40:39 > 0:40:42It's feared there could be hundreds of job losses at Toys R Us

0:40:42 > 0:40:44after the retailer announced it would close around

0:40:44 > 0:40:46a quarter of its UK stores.

0:40:46 > 0:40:49The move, which would see the closure of 25 shops,

0:40:49 > 0:40:52is part of a deal by the owners to renegotiate debts

0:40:52 > 0:40:53with its landlords.

0:40:53 > 0:40:56It's thought Christmas trading and gift vouchers will not be

0:40:56 > 0:41:02affected by the move.

0:41:02 > 0:41:07Five people have been ended, two critically, after a car hit a number

0:41:07 > 0:41:10of pedestrians in London. The collision happened between Brixton

0:41:10 > 0:41:16and Stockwell and police say they are not treating it as terrorism.

0:41:16 > 0:41:19Refugee families who are being resettled in the UK from Syria,

0:41:19 > 0:41:22should not be forced to split up and be allowed to bring children,

0:41:22 > 0:41:24up to the age of 25, with them.

0:41:24 > 0:41:26The British Red Cross is calling for current rules to be relaxed

0:41:26 > 0:41:29so that older family members are not left behind in war zones.

0:41:29 > 0:41:32This week, the Home Office announced that over the past two years around

0:41:32 > 0:41:359,000 Syrians had been allowed into the UK under its Vulnerable

0:41:35 > 0:41:36Person Resettlement Scheme.

0:41:36 > 0:41:37Let's be clear.

0:41:37 > 0:41:40We are talking about children who are part of the family unit.

0:41:40 > 0:41:42People watching this now, think of your family,

0:41:42 > 0:41:45the children who still live at home, who may be away studying.

0:41:45 > 0:41:46That's what we're talking about.

0:41:46 > 0:41:48Let's bring those families back together.

0:41:48 > 0:41:51Families belong together.

0:41:51 > 0:41:54A new scheme which aims to recognise more places and people with historic

0:41:54 > 0:41:57importance is set to be launched by Historic England.

0:41:57 > 0:42:00The heritage body wants people to suggest sites that deserve to be

0:42:00 > 0:42:04permanently acknowledged but aren't already marked with a plaque.

0:42:04 > 0:42:10The campaign will be piloted over three years.

0:42:10 > 0:42:18A huge waterspout has formed off Italy.

0:42:18 > 0:42:19It is a remarkable image.

0:42:19 > 0:42:20It is a remarkable image.

0:42:20 > 0:42:23It was spotted off the coast of Sanremo before moving

0:42:23 > 0:42:24inland as a tornado.

0:42:24 > 0:42:26The weather phenomenon caused significant damage to the city

0:42:26 > 0:42:32but luckily no-one was hurt.

0:42:32 > 0:42:44It is quite a spectacular sight. Amazing pictures. It is 11 minutes

0:42:44 > 0:42:45past nine.

0:42:45 > 0:42:47It is 11 minutes past nine.

0:42:47 > 0:42:49The film "Wonder" starring Julia Roberts and Owen Wilson

0:42:49 > 0:42:52tells the story of a young boy navigating his first year at school.

0:42:52 > 0:42:54He's a child who experiences a tougher time than many

0:42:54 > 0:42:56because he has a congenital condition, which affected

0:42:56 > 0:42:57how his face formed.

0:42:57 > 0:43:00Now a charity is calling on schools to do more to support children

0:43:00 > 0:43:02going through similar experiences because of facial disfigurements.

0:43:02 > 0:43:06Research by the organisation Changing Faces suggests

0:43:06 > 0:43:09almost half are bullied.

0:43:09 > 0:43:12We'll discuss this in a moment, but first let's hear

0:43:12 > 0:43:17from 13-year-old Marcus.

0:43:17 > 0:43:22Hi, I am Marcus, I am 13, I have a facial disfigurement.

0:43:22 > 0:43:27They kept on calling me butt face, Scarface, Joker and one of them said

0:43:27 > 0:43:31if they looked like me, they would kill themselves.

0:43:31 > 0:43:34It made me feel really upset but I didn't tell anyone at first,

0:43:34 > 0:43:39but then my mum kind of knew that I was a bit down so then

0:43:39 > 0:43:44she asked me what was wrong and then I told her.

0:43:44 > 0:43:49I made a DVD and it, like, said all the information

0:43:49 > 0:43:54about what I was going through, what happened, all the operations.

0:43:54 > 0:43:58I hoped people would understand a bit more after they watched it

0:43:58 > 0:44:02because everyone gets stares, but it is more, when you have

0:44:02 > 0:44:06a facial disfigurement.

0:44:06 > 0:44:09It is not you that is the problem, it is them.

0:44:09 > 0:44:12And if you are going through this sort of time,

0:44:12 > 0:44:19then you need to tell someone.

0:44:19 > 0:44:22Becky Hewitt is the chief executive of the charity Changing Faces

0:44:22 > 0:44:27and Lucy Ritchie was born with Treacher Collins syndrome.

0:44:27 > 0:44:36Good morning to you. You see, first of all, let's talk about how your

0:44:36 > 0:44:39experiences compare with markers who we heard a moment ago. How has it

0:44:39 > 0:44:46been for you in school and in those situations?I have had quite a

0:44:46 > 0:44:49positive experience compared to some of the other people who have

0:44:49 > 0:44:58disfigurement. But I think with this film that is coming out and the work

0:44:58 > 0:45:04that Changing Faces does it will open up the discussion.We were

0:45:04 > 0:45:09lucky enough to talk to the author of the book which the film was based

0:45:09 > 0:45:12on and Treacher Collins is not assigned to the main character as

0:45:12 > 0:45:19what he has. The author said to us that she wanted to talk about the

0:45:19 > 0:45:23issue of bullying and facial disfigurement and not talk about

0:45:23 > 0:45:29Treacher Collins. But you have it, tell us what it is.It is a facial

0:45:29 > 0:45:34disfigurement so I do not have any cheekbones, I have no years and I

0:45:34 > 0:45:42have a very small airway. This developed during birth. It is how I

0:45:42 > 0:45:48was born.And the work that is being done now to get a more positive

0:45:48 > 0:45:50conversation, or more upfront conversation about disfigurement

0:45:50 > 0:45:55more generally, is that what you were trying to achieve?Yes, we want

0:45:55 > 0:45:59to start conversations about visible difference and looking different. It

0:45:59 > 0:46:03is not something people feel comfortable discussing. We want to

0:46:03 > 0:46:07move to a place in schools where they value difference so they will

0:46:07 > 0:46:12say to kids, we are all different, you are different from your friends,

0:46:12 > 0:46:15difference is nothing to be frightened off, it is what makes us

0:46:15 > 0:46:21all unique and brilliant. If we can get people speaking about that, they

0:46:21 > 0:46:24are much more likely to be welcoming to kids who look a bit more

0:46:24 > 0:46:29different.People often say that youngsters in amongst themselves are

0:46:29 > 0:46:35often very accepting. There is also the side issue of bullying and that

0:46:35 > 0:46:38can happen, but at the same time young people can be very accepting

0:46:38 > 0:46:43of difference if they are not guided in a different direction by adults

0:46:43 > 0:46:48who bring with them lots of other issues. What do you think?I think a

0:46:48 > 0:46:53lot of kids are really accepting. It is down to sort of educating people

0:46:53 > 0:47:00about disfigurement. The more they are educated, the more they will be

0:47:00 > 0:47:04aware. Most kids I come across have been quite positive. If they are

0:47:04 > 0:47:09negative I think it is more just scared and curious from what I have

0:47:09 > 0:47:20found.One of the things the film highlights, and the book is written

0:47:20 > 0:47:25from a different perspective about the young boy, what have you learnt

0:47:25 > 0:47:29about people being tolerant as might your friends will have known about

0:47:29 > 0:47:33the operations and the painful procedures that you have gone

0:47:33 > 0:47:39through.Definitely my friends and family get more upset about staring

0:47:39 > 0:47:45and other people's reactions compared to what I do. I definitely

0:47:45 > 0:47:50noticed different types of stairs. You get curious or sympathetic

0:47:50 > 0:47:57stairs, but as a whole...How do you react to those? Say you are in the

0:47:57 > 0:48:04supermarket...I am completely immune to it.If people are staring

0:48:04 > 0:48:08at me with curiosity rather than horror or resentment, curiosity or a

0:48:08 > 0:48:15pity as you mention, would you say I walked up to them?I have never done

0:48:15 > 0:48:22that, usually I smile and say hello. It probably should be something I do

0:48:22 > 0:48:26more often, but I am pretty immune to it, I do not tend to notice it is

0:48:26 > 0:48:32much any more. As I say, I think my friends and family if they could

0:48:32 > 0:48:38with a something but I try and hold them back.Has progress being made?

0:48:38 > 0:48:44Are we in a better place than we were 30 years ago?Some progress has

0:48:44 > 0:48:49been made and we have seen a slight improvement in the kind of implicit

0:48:49 > 0:48:51bias, people who automatically associate less positive things

0:48:51 > 0:48:55towards people who look different. But we also think there is an

0:48:55 > 0:49:01enormous amount to be done, so our research shows 50% of young people

0:49:01 > 0:49:05are experiencing bullying in schools and almost all of those those

0:49:05 > 0:49:10schools are not well equipped to deal with it. But we know there is a

0:49:10 > 0:49:13massive opportunity to reach young people and if you talk to young

0:49:13 > 0:49:19people when they are young, they move forward. We did great work in a

0:49:19 > 0:49:22school during anti-bullying week and afterwards 60 children wrote as

0:49:22 > 0:49:27letters to talk about the positive impact on them and how it had taught

0:49:27 > 0:49:31them to see things differently. Although there is a lot to overcome,

0:49:31 > 0:49:35we also know if we get in there and have conversations there is an

0:49:35 > 0:49:39opportunity to make things better. That is good for all kids because

0:49:39 > 0:49:43they could be a society where looks are not important.What would you

0:49:43 > 0:49:47say to children watching with or without facial disfigurement who are

0:49:47 > 0:49:52being bullied or challenge because they look different?If you have the

0:49:52 > 0:49:58attitude that you are no different, other people will adapt to that.

0:49:58 > 0:50:01Just because you look different does not mean you are any different in

0:50:01 > 0:50:06the inside, so just go with that attitude and hopefully more people

0:50:06 > 0:50:12will accept that.And as you said, embrace the fact that we are unique.

0:50:12 > 0:50:18Thank you so much.

0:50:18 > 0:50:2190 minutes past nine, let's have a look at the weather.

0:50:26 > 0:50:30Our weather is changing and it will turn milder this weekend but we have

0:50:30 > 0:50:34got a lot more cloud and it is thick enough to give us a bit of rain and

0:50:34 > 0:50:39drizzle. It is a dull picture, cloudy skies for many of us, a bit

0:50:39 > 0:50:43of rain and drizzle in East Anglia and the South fading away. Still

0:50:43 > 0:50:49damp in the south-west. Rain coming in towards the north of Scotland. We

0:50:49 > 0:50:56will hang on cloudy skies. Those temperatures struggling on the

0:50:56 > 0:51:01eastern side of England, especially in the South East and East Anglia.

0:51:01 > 0:51:07Still quite cold. Some sunshine in North eastern parts of England,

0:51:07 > 0:51:11South East of Scotland a glimmer of brightness, but we will see some

0:51:11 > 0:51:17rain and slightly stronger winds. The wet weather over the Highlands.

0:51:17 > 0:51:21This evening and overnight that patchy rain sinks further south and

0:51:21 > 0:51:24moves away from Scotland and moves into Northern Ireland, Wales,

0:51:24 > 0:51:31through northern England and East Anglia. It keeps the temperatures

0:51:31 > 0:51:36up, but behind that in Scotland it could turn rather chilly. Otherwise

0:51:36 > 0:51:41a mild night ahead. The cold air is in the near continent and although

0:51:41 > 0:51:46we have got high-pressure towards the West, around the top of it we

0:51:46 > 0:51:52are drawing down milder air. There will be a chilly start in eastern

0:51:52 > 0:51:56Scotland and some sunshine and the cloud will break up more in northern

0:51:56 > 0:52:00England, perhaps improving through the day in east Wales, the Midlands

0:52:00 > 0:52:06and East Anglia and maybe eventually in the South East. On the western

0:52:06 > 0:52:12side of the UK it is cloudy, dark and damp. This is how we start the

0:52:12 > 0:52:17new week. Cloudy skies for many. Best chance of sunshine in the east

0:52:17 > 0:52:22side of the UK. The middle part of the week it could get wet and cold

0:52:22 > 0:52:24air returned by the end of the week.

0:52:24 > 0:52:25air returned by the end of the week.

0:52:25 > 0:52:26air returned by the end of the week.

0:52:26 > 0:52:33And you're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

0:52:33 > 0:52:35The writer and broadcaster, Simon Fanshawe, is here to tell us

0:52:35 > 0:52:40what's caught his eye.

0:52:40 > 0:52:44He is blending in very nicely with the server.It is my Christmas

0:52:44 > 0:52:47jacket.

0:52:47 > 0:52:53First let's look at the front pages.

0:52:53 > 0:52:56It's Meghan mania in the papers today with Prince Harry's fiance

0:52:56 > 0:52:58gracing most of the front pages.

0:52:58 > 0:53:00The Sun's front page is dedicated entirely to Ms Markle,

0:53:00 > 0:53:06calling her a mega star.

0:53:06 > 0:53:10The Guardian leads with the guilty plea of Donald Trump's ex-national

0:53:10 > 0:53:15security adviser Michael Flynn.

0:53:15 > 0:53:25The Daily Telegraph also leads on the case of Michael Flynn.

0:53:27 > 0:53:32He admitted yesterday lying. The question is what information he

0:53:32 > 0:53:32might provide.

0:53:32 > 0:53:36The question is what information he might provide.

0:53:36 > 0:53:43And the Daily Mail leads with the story about Damian Green.

0:53:43 > 0:53:52The Tories are at war with Scotland Yard. Simon, where are you starting?

0:53:52 > 0:54:01There is a story in the Guardian in Manchester about the Scouts. The

0:54:01 > 0:54:08first ever Buddhist Scout group. Do you remember Scouts or whatever they

0:54:08 > 0:54:16were?1908 it started.I took part in a documentary and I remember

0:54:16 > 0:54:20thinking we can send out scouting. When I got to the end I thought,

0:54:20 > 0:54:26there is nothing to send up, it is terrific. We discovered that there

0:54:26 > 0:54:30is a British Muslim Scouting Association and there is an odd

0:54:30 > 0:54:34association with Baden Powell, white Christian. But the Scouts are trying

0:54:34 > 0:54:42to spread their wings. Without being a big advocate for them, it is fun.

0:54:42 > 0:54:45This guy is a research scientist at Manchester University and he started

0:54:45 > 0:54:50this Scout group and it is centred around Buddhists but it is open to

0:54:50 > 0:54:53all.It would send out the wrong message if it was only for

0:54:53 > 0:54:59Buddhists. The whole point is you come to the group.And they meet at

0:54:59 > 0:55:02the Buddhist temple so if there is any religious worship it would be

0:55:02 > 0:55:11Buddhists, but they go out and they do their water not all over.

0:55:11 > 0:55:15In 2014 atheist Scouts, bearing in mind Baden Powell once described

0:55:15 > 0:55:21atheists as the worst sort, the founder of the Scouts movement, but

0:55:21 > 0:55:24in 2014 atheist Scouts were given the right to do their squaring in,

0:55:24 > 0:55:32the promise without saying duty to God they our Scout values.I am a

0:55:32 > 0:55:42big fan of the Scouts.Your next story?It is the times and it is the

0:55:42 > 0:55:49constant fascination with what is it that forms sexual orientation? The

0:55:49 > 0:55:53thing that researchers in this area are absolutely love is a pair of

0:55:53 > 0:55:57identical twins because they are identical, so they are genetically

0:55:57 > 0:56:02absolutely similar, but these two women, Rosie and Sarah are sisters

0:56:02 > 0:56:06and they are identical twins and Rosie on the left is lesbian and

0:56:06 > 0:56:12Sarah on the right is not. So the question is what happened? These

0:56:12 > 0:56:16researchers are saying their genetic structure is the same and they are

0:56:16 > 0:56:19looking at is their early evidence of deviation from gender

0:56:19 > 0:56:25stereotypical behaviour? And when does that start to show itself? They

0:56:25 > 0:56:29have asked twins to bring pictures of them throughout their childhood.

0:56:29 > 0:56:33What they are discovering is it demonstrates non-gender

0:56:33 > 0:56:38stereotypical behaviour which started very early on. If you look

0:56:38 > 0:56:42at the other insect picture of the two of them you will see that on the

0:56:42 > 0:56:49left that is Sarah dressed as Wilma Flintstone and on the right is her

0:56:49 > 0:56:59sister dressed as Fred Flintstone. They are also saying it may be

0:56:59 > 0:57:03genetics, but the theory at the University of Essex says it made

0:57:03 > 0:57:09well be to do with different nutrition and levels of hormones

0:57:09 > 0:57:13pre-birth in the womb. Even though they are identical twins they have

0:57:13 > 0:57:19different experiences in the lumen. The suggestion is Rosie who dressed

0:57:19 > 0:57:25as Fred Flintstone is gay and the other one is not.There is an

0:57:25 > 0:57:29interplay between sexual orientation and gender specific behaviour. You

0:57:29 > 0:57:32are starting to demonstrate difference even when you are

0:57:32 > 0:57:39unconscious about it. The idea that gay men are camp is about not being

0:57:39 > 0:57:43stereotypically masculine.Without wanting to be flippant, in a way

0:57:43 > 0:57:49everyone is wearing a dress. They are all wearing tunics because they

0:57:49 > 0:57:53did not have trousers in Fred Flintstone's day. And so did the

0:57:53 > 0:58:02Romans.They were not trousers, but on the other hand Wilma was very

0:58:02 > 0:58:08definitely wearing a 50s dress.It was all the rage in prehistoric

0:58:08 > 0:58:17days! Shall we finish off?This is a campaign the Daily Mail is running.

0:58:17 > 0:58:22It is shocking. When people throw away plastic it breaks down but only

0:58:22 > 0:58:26to a certain degree. If you throw it away in the beach it gets into the

0:58:26 > 0:58:31water and fish and things like that feast on it like it is plankton. But

0:58:31 > 0:58:36they cannot digester. If you then eat the fish you are eating

0:58:36 > 0:58:43undigested plastic. If you look at that picture, you can see there is a

0:58:43 > 0:58:46beach with discarded litter on a beach in Cornwall and people are

0:58:46 > 0:58:51saying stop throwing away plastic in places where it will not biodegrade.

0:58:51 > 0:58:56Put it in a bin and take it away. Put stuff in the bin, it is not

0:58:56 > 0:59:03hard!I got run over the other day at a traffic light because somebody

0:59:03 > 0:59:06who something out of their car and I picked it up and threw it back in

0:59:06 > 0:59:13again. I was on my bike. As I went off the guy tried to run me over. I

0:59:13 > 0:59:17thought, I am pointing out you dropped something.In the same

0:59:17 > 0:59:21breath I would say be careful. It is one thing to be right, it is another

0:59:21 > 0:59:32thing to be...Dead.Nice to see. Happy Christmas.

0:59:32 > 0:59:34This is Breakfast.

0:59:34 > 0:59:37We're on BBC Two until ten this morning, when Angela Hartnett takes

0:59:37 > 0:59:41over in the Saturday kitchen.

0:59:41 > 0:59:45We were just talking about plastic and seafood and you have to be

0:59:45 > 0:59:51mindful as chefs and you have got to show that you are sourcing well.We

0:59:51 > 0:59:54have got a fantastic story later in the show so make sure you tune in

0:59:54 > 0:59:58and watch it. Our special guest today is the wonderful Gregory

0:59:58 > 1:00:03Porter. You are here to face food heaven and hell will stop what is

1:00:03 > 1:00:18heaven?A great rib eye steak. And hell? Pickled fish.What are you

1:00:18 > 1:00:27cooking today?We are going to cook some fish in a paper bag. With loads

1:00:27 > 1:00:33of seasonable vegetables like celeriac, walnuts and Apple,

1:00:33 > 1:00:40seasonal ingredients.Lovely to have you as always, Ken.I am doing a

1:00:40 > 1:00:45spring roll filled with chicken and sun-dried tomatoes.That sounds

1:00:45 > 1:00:52delicious. How are you?We have got wine on the show today and other

1:00:52 > 1:00:58drinks as well.And no plastic straws! And you guys are at home in

1:00:58 > 1:01:01charge of whether Gregory eats food heaven or food hell at the end of

1:01:01 > 1:01:09the show. Check our website for details. See you at ten.Sometimes I

1:01:09 > 1:01:12play the game about which think I would like to eat most. A spring

1:01:12 > 1:01:15roll? Yes.

1:01:15 > 1:01:17Yes.

1:01:17 > 1:01:22Coming up in the next half hour: Is there somewhere or someone

1:01:22 > 1:01:24you think should be recognised for their historical importance?

1:01:24 > 1:02:28We'll be hearing about plans for a new memorial scheme in England.

1:02:28 > 1:02:30Hello, this is Breakfast with Naga Munchetty and Charlie Stayt.

1:02:30 > 1:02:35Coming up before 10.00:

1:02:35 > 1:02:38Mike will have the sport and Darren will have the weather.

1:02:38 > 1:02:40US media are reporting that President Trump's son-in-law,

1:02:40 > 1:02:42Jared Kushner, has been implicated in the investigation into claims

1:02:42 > 1:02:44that Russia interfered in the election process.

1:02:44 > 1:02:46The former national security adviser, Michael Flynn,

1:02:46 > 1:02:48has accused a "very senior member" of the president's transition team

1:02:48 > 1:02:52of directing him to make contact with foreign governments.

1:02:52 > 1:02:54It's thought Mr Flynn, who pleaded guilty to making false

1:02:54 > 1:02:58statements to the FBI, will say he was directed to hold

1:02:58 > 1:03:00discussions with Kremlin officials by senior members of Trump's

1:03:00 > 1:03:01campaign team, including Mr Kushner.

1:03:01 > 1:03:04The White House says Mr Flynn has implicated no-one but himself.

1:03:04 > 1:03:06The UK National Cyber Security Centre has warned government

1:03:06 > 1:03:08departments not to use Russian anti-virus software

1:03:08 > 1:03:09if their computers contain sensitive information.

1:03:09 > 1:03:12The Russian company, Kaspersky Lab, was banned from US government

1:03:12 > 1:03:14networks earlier this year, because of concerns it had ties

1:03:14 > 1:03:19to intelligence agencies in Moscow.

1:03:19 > 1:03:23The company denies having links to the Kremlin.

1:03:23 > 1:03:25Despite its warning, the National Cyber Security Centre

1:03:25 > 1:03:29says the general public shouldn't be concerned about using the software.

1:03:29 > 1:03:31Our guidance is to choose an anti-virus product that

1:03:31 > 1:03:36meets your needs and does well in industry standard tests.

1:03:36 > 1:03:38We're not saying, and we specifically say this

1:03:38 > 1:03:40in our guidance on the blog, that we are not telling people

1:03:40 > 1:03:42to rip out Kaspersky willy-nilly because that

1:03:42 > 1:03:44makes no sense.

1:03:44 > 1:03:49This is about entities that may be of interest to the Russian

1:03:49 > 1:03:51government, so for us that's about national security

1:03:51 > 1:03:54systems in government, of which there are very small

1:03:54 > 1:03:56number, and for example if you have a business negotiation

1:03:56 > 1:04:02that the Russian government may be interested in.

1:04:02 > 1:04:04Two former police officers who leaked allegations that

1:04:04 > 1:04:07pornographic images had been found on the Tory minister,

1:04:07 > 1:04:10Damian Green's computer, were in "flagrant breach"

1:04:10 > 1:04:13of their own code of conduct, according to the former

1:04:13 > 1:04:15Attorney General, Dominic Grieve.

1:04:15 > 1:04:18Mr Green, now the First Secretary of State, has repeated his

1:04:18 > 1:04:19insistence that he didn't view pornographic material

1:04:19 > 1:04:22on the computer.

1:04:22 > 1:04:25The former Attorney General said he found the behaviour

1:04:25 > 1:04:28of the ex-officers troubling.

1:04:28 > 1:04:31They choose to put material that an ordinary citizen would be

1:04:31 > 1:04:34prohibited from acquiring under data protection rules into the public

1:04:34 > 1:04:38domain on their own judgment...

1:04:38 > 1:04:40Now, there is a way of dealing with that.

1:04:40 > 1:04:44If you think something is relevant, you do it by proper, official means.

1:04:44 > 1:04:48You do not go freelancing, as these two officers have done,

1:04:48 > 1:04:51and it has the smack of the police state about it.

1:04:51 > 1:04:54Five people have been injured, two critically, after a car hit

1:04:54 > 1:04:55a number of pedestrians in London.

1:04:55 > 1:04:57The collision happened between Brixton and Stockwell.

1:04:57 > 1:05:01Police say they are not treating it as terrorism.

1:05:01 > 1:05:03White House officials have indicated that President Trump is likely

1:05:03 > 1:05:05to announce next week that the United States

1:05:05 > 1:05:09will recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

1:05:09 > 1:05:10The status of Jerusalem is highly contentious,

1:05:10 > 1:05:14with both Israelis and Palestinians claiming all or part

1:05:14 > 1:05:17of the city as their capital.

1:05:17 > 1:05:19Critics have warned that the decision by Donald Trump

1:05:19 > 1:05:22could jeopardise peace negotiations.

1:05:22 > 1:05:26It's feared there could be hundreds of job losses at Toys R Us,

1:05:26 > 1:05:27after the retailer announced it would close around

1:05:27 > 1:05:29a quarter of its UK stores.

1:05:29 > 1:05:31The move, which would see the closure of 25 shops,

1:05:31 > 1:05:34is part of a deal by the owners to renegotiate debts

1:05:34 > 1:05:38with its landlords.

1:05:38 > 1:05:40It's thought Christmas trading and gift vouchers will not be

1:05:40 > 1:05:41affected by the move.

1:05:41 > 1:05:43Pope Francis is spending his final day in Bangladesh,

1:05:43 > 1:05:45after using his highly-anticipated Asia trip to express support

1:05:45 > 1:05:48for the Rohingya Muslims.

1:05:48 > 1:05:51Yesterday, the Pope met a group of refugees and referred to them

1:05:51 > 1:05:53using the word "Rohingya" for the first time.

1:05:53 > 1:05:56He was criticised for not using the term on his earlier visit

1:05:56 > 1:06:02to Myanmar, which does not regard them as an ethnic group.

1:06:02 > 1:06:05A new scheme, which aims to recognise more places and people

1:06:05 > 1:06:07with historic importance, is set to be launched

1:06:07 > 1:06:08by Historic England.

1:06:08 > 1:06:12The heritage body wants people to suggest sites that deserve to be

1:06:12 > 1:06:14permanently acknowledged, but aren't already

1:06:14 > 1:06:15marked with a plaque.

1:06:15 > 1:06:19The campaign will be piloted over three years.

1:06:19 > 1:06:23A huge waterspout has formed off Italy.

1:06:23 > 1:06:25It was spotted off the coast of Sanremo, before moving

1:06:25 > 1:06:29inland as a tornado.

1:06:29 > 1:06:37This is it. It is created by wind sucking up water through a tunnel of

1:06:37 > 1:06:45a. It rises and it looks like a water tornado above the sea. This

1:06:45 > 1:06:48did move inland.

1:06:48 > 1:06:51The weather phenomenon caused significant damage to the city.

1:06:51 > 1:06:56You can see close up images of boats on the coastline which were moored

1:06:56 > 1:06:58up, but luckily we can report nobody was hurt.

1:06:58 > 1:07:02Those are the main stories this morning.

1:07:02 > 1:07:08Now let's look at the sport. England are playing Australia to become...

1:07:08 > 1:07:11Rolled cup rugby league. Are we telling the

1:07:11 > 1:07:20score? It may have been wishful thinking to

1:07:20 > 1:07:23think England were complacent, because they are so used to seeing

1:07:23 > 1:07:26Australia win, but the Australian team have turned up and they are

1:07:26 > 1:07:31competitive. They are winning. England held out for 15 minutes

1:07:31 > 1:07:34before finally buckling under the pressure and it has taken some tough

1:07:34 > 1:07:40defending from England. Australia did not like this tackle. The

1:07:40 > 1:07:45rivalry boiled over for some seconds of fisticuffs. Eventually the

1:07:45 > 1:07:53winners powered through to score at the corner there, and converted to

1:07:53 > 1:07:57put the champions 6-0 up. Chances at both ends since then but Australia

1:07:57 > 1:07:59very much on top.

1:07:59 > 1:08:01It's the final session on day one of the second Ashes Test,

1:08:01 > 1:08:05but play well under way again in Adelaide.

1:08:05 > 1:08:09Under the lights come around this is a day night match with England

1:08:09 > 1:08:14looking to build on their own success.

1:08:14 > 1:08:16Australia tried to take advantage of a miss-field from

1:08:16 > 1:08:17England, but it backfired.

1:08:17 > 1:08:19Cameron Bankcroft run out by Chris Woakes.

1:08:19 > 1:08:25David Warner has gone, three runs short of his half century.

1:08:25 > 1:08:30Australia have since settled into the groove, with Steve Smith the

1:08:30 > 1:08:33captain... A dropped catch was survived to negative 50. In the

1:08:33 > 1:08:39second over at the final session, he is gone. A wicket in the last while,

1:08:39 > 1:08:43James Anderson, giving Australia 141-3. If England gets more they

1:08:43 > 1:08:45will feel they are right in this.

1:08:45 > 1:08:47Pub landlords have been toasting England's World Cup draw,

1:08:47 > 1:08:51because all of their games in Russia will be played at 7pm in the evening

1:08:51 > 1:08:52or Sunday afternoon,

1:08:52 > 1:08:55so people don't have to take time off work.

1:08:55 > 1:08:58They can all get together to watch, perhaps in a pub.

1:08:58 > 1:09:00Diego Maradona was the man who pulled England's name out

1:09:00 > 1:09:01of the pot in the Kremlin.

1:09:01 > 1:09:04Gareth Southgate's side are in a group with Belgium,

1:09:04 > 1:09:06Tunisia and Panama, but he says a good draw on paper

1:09:06 > 1:09:10doesn't mean anything, given England's recent World Cup record.

1:09:10 > 1:09:12We've been good at writing teams off and then getting beaten,

1:09:12 > 1:09:16so we have to make sure that we're prepared for all of those games.

1:09:16 > 1:09:18It's fantastically exciting to be here for the draw

1:09:18 > 1:09:21with every other coach.

1:09:21 > 1:09:23It's been a great experience and really looking forward

1:09:23 > 1:09:26to getting on with it.

1:09:26 > 1:09:29The big game in the Premier League today is the evening kick-off

1:09:29 > 1:09:31between Arsenal and Manchester United.

1:09:31 > 1:09:33Celtic play Motherwell in Scotland, and the FA Cup continues.

1:09:33 > 1:09:35Last night, non-league AFC Fylde, earned a replay

1:09:35 > 1:09:37with Wigan Athletic of League One, Danny Rowe's penalty

1:09:37 > 1:09:42giving them a 1-1 draw.

1:09:42 > 1:09:50So both sides will be in Monday's third-round draw.

1:09:50 > 1:09:53Then all the Premier League teams and championship sides come into the

1:09:53 > 1:09:55mix.

1:09:55 > 1:09:57Newcastle snatched a very late victory at Northampton,

1:09:57 > 1:09:58in rugby union's Premiership.

1:09:58 > 1:10:01After a scrappy try from the final play of the game, Tarney Takula,

1:10:01 > 1:10:08kicked the crucial conversion, to give them victory by 24-22.

1:10:08 > 1:10:09And Glasgow Warriors' great run continues.

1:10:09 > 1:10:12They made it ten wins from ten in the Pro 14,

1:10:12 > 1:10:18with a bonus point victory over Cardiff Blues - 40-16 the score.

1:10:18 > 1:10:20Alfie Hewett has joined Gordon Reid in the semi-finals

1:10:20 > 1:10:21of the Wheelchair Tennis Masters.

1:10:21 > 1:10:24He came from a set down to beat Stephane Houdet of France.

1:10:24 > 1:10:28Reid and Hewett are the reigning Wimbledon doubles champions.

1:10:28 > 1:10:30There's live coverage from Loughborough on the BBC Sport

1:10:30 > 1:10:36website and connected televisions from 11.00.

1:10:36 > 1:10:38Tiger Woods said he'd proved his latest back

1:10:38 > 1:10:40operation had been a success, after he shot another under-par

1:10:40 > 1:10:45round, at the Hero World Challenge in the Bahamas.

1:10:45 > 1:10:48It's his first tournament for almost a year, but he's now seven under,

1:10:48 > 1:10:51at the half-way stage, tied for fifth place.

1:10:51 > 1:10:53Charley Hoffman is the leader.

1:10:53 > 1:11:03England's Tommy Fleetwood who was leading is three shots back.

1:11:03 > 1:11:07Back at the Rugby league World Cup final live on BBC One, England have

1:11:07 > 1:11:13survived another of the Australian attacks. The score is still at 6-0.

1:11:13 > 1:11:15Only six points in it in the opening match of this tournament when

1:11:15 > 1:11:20England lost to Australia 18-4, but it was closed until the final

1:11:20 > 1:11:24stages. England need to hang on to survive these next ten minutes to

1:11:24 > 1:11:28get to half-time, and only six points in it and only a converted

1:11:28 > 1:11:33try away from at least matching Australia.

1:11:33 > 1:11:36Is this pitch gigantic? It looks particularly big.

1:11:36 > 1:11:41I am not aware of that. Certainly I know in football sometimes they do

1:11:41 > 1:11:45narrow their home pitch to suit their own advantage if they prefer a

1:11:45 > 1:11:50narrow pitch or wider pitch, they can alter it to... Am not aware this

1:11:50 > 1:11:54is a huge pitch necessarily. It is a big stadium, though, 52,000

1:11:54 > 1:11:57capacity. First half, we will see what

1:11:57 > 1:11:59happens. Australia are being competitive and

1:11:59 > 1:12:05not complacent. We are holding our own a little bit?

1:12:05 > 1:12:11And we? Just about. Good defending.

1:12:11 > 1:12:129:41am the time.

1:12:12 > 1:12:15From the birthplace of grime music to the site where stainless

1:12:15 > 1:12:17steel was invented - these are just some of the locations

1:12:17 > 1:12:20that could be celebrated as part of a new memorial scheme

1:12:20 > 1:12:21from Historic England.

1:12:21 > 1:12:23The heritage group wants to find places, people and events,

1:12:23 > 1:12:26which have played a part in shaping the country but aren't widely

1:12:26 > 1:12:27recognised at present.

1:12:27 > 1:12:29Here to tell us more is Celia Richardson

1:12:29 > 1:12:32from Historic England.

1:12:32 > 1:12:36Good morning. Morning.

1:12:36 > 1:12:39What are the untold stories? That is the problem that you don't know when

1:12:39 > 1:12:42you want people to tell you. We have heard from many people

1:12:42 > 1:12:44already and have been doing research. We have passionate people

1:12:44 > 1:12:49around the country who want to see many things recognised and this is a

1:12:49 > 1:12:52country rich in invention, especially in the north-west of

1:12:52 > 1:12:57England. The atom was split here and that is marked out. Not just about

1:12:57 > 1:13:04invention and engineering and those things we know we are good at, but

1:13:04 > 1:13:06there is music and literature and art. We have people wanting to mark

1:13:06 > 1:13:10at the birthplace of the NHS. We have people wanting to work out a

1:13:10 > 1:13:16place where Ewan MacColl wrote a book called Dirty Old Town.

1:13:16 > 1:13:20Everybody loves some kind of heritage.

1:13:20 > 1:13:27Yes, but when does it all become a bit too much? How do you decide what

1:13:27 > 1:13:31deserves a plaque? We are going for communities where

1:13:31 > 1:13:35the heritage is not marked out in history is not marked. You'll often

1:13:35 > 1:13:39find them in town centres and great buildings, markers of important

1:13:39 > 1:13:41people, but we are looking for the communities where that has not

1:13:41 > 1:13:46happened yet and were important have happened and things that are central

1:13:46 > 1:13:52to place making and a sense of identity. Import into tourism and

1:13:52 > 1:13:57the economy and not yet marked out. There are places in city centres,

1:13:57 > 1:14:02like a particular massacre. A long campaign for a permanent memorial.

1:14:02 > 1:14:06These are things people feel passionately need to be marked out

1:14:06 > 1:14:10but looking for the untold stories at the moment. This is an exercise

1:14:10 > 1:14:12in storytelling and celebration as much as

1:14:12 > 1:14:18much as anything. Interesting... Emily Pankhurst...

1:14:18 > 1:14:22Some stories, you think, of course, there would be a blue plaque. One of

1:14:22 > 1:14:25the really significant moment of history. Is it awkward sometimes?

1:14:25 > 1:14:29You have a panel of people and you are presented with someone, somebody

1:14:29 > 1:14:32somewhere thinks the story is important and they feel passionate,

1:14:32 > 1:14:36but you're presumably in an awkward position because if you don't agree,

1:14:36 > 1:14:39you have descended back saying, not quite important enough. We don't

1:14:39 > 1:14:44think what you think is think is important is important. That is a

1:14:44 > 1:14:47bit awkward, isn't it? That is one of the things Heritage

1:14:47 > 1:14:51England has to do where the body that lists buildings... People apply

1:14:51 > 1:14:55to have a building listed and in order for us to list it must be

1:14:55 > 1:14:59nationally significant and linked to history, and it must be a special

1:14:59 > 1:15:03example of its kind and the threshold is high.

1:15:03 > 1:15:06If someone is sitting there and thinking, I know someone down the

1:15:06 > 1:15:11road that should be recognised, what is the list that will get it through

1:15:11 > 1:15:14your process? What are the markers that they must reach?

1:15:14 > 1:15:19It is important we don't decide to impose a national grid on this sort

1:15:19 > 1:15:22of scheme, because this has really got to come from communities

1:15:22 > 1:15:25themselves. We will work with local people and they are the ones who

1:15:25 > 1:15:29will make the decision, is this history really significant to us? Is

1:15:29 > 1:15:35it worth marking up? Is it important and the community to happen? Talking

1:15:35 > 1:15:38about identity and belonging, it must come from them.

1:15:38 > 1:15:44And then, what they get is what, financial? Is it financial gain or

1:15:44 > 1:15:49is it a sense of pride? What do these communities seem to be after?

1:15:49 > 1:15:52It is a permanent marker and often they just want acknowledgement and

1:15:52 > 1:15:55recognition, but also it is working with local groups, we run heritage

1:15:55 > 1:15:59schools... It is making sure this knowledge people are passionate

1:15:59 > 1:16:03about is that held between one or two people but a lot of our history

1:16:03 > 1:16:08is locked up in the minds of specialists and needs to be shared

1:16:08 > 1:16:12accessibly. People want to pass it on for future generations.

1:16:12 > 1:16:15Thank you very much. Earlier one of the things asked, because we were

1:16:15 > 1:16:19talking about stainless steel, and you told us it is from share

1:16:19 > 1:16:24field... We were educated that way. -- Sheffield. Who invented the

1:16:24 > 1:16:30cardboard box? Did you find out? A person got in touch on Twitter and

1:16:30 > 1:16:35says the Scottish born Robert Geyer invented the precut cardboard or

1:16:35 > 1:16:52paperboard box, guess one? 1890. And those pieces were folded into boxes.

1:16:52 > 1:16:56Has Robert Gair been recognised with a blue plaque?

1:16:56 > 1:17:01Lets put on the list. Inventor of the cardboard box marvellous. Now

1:17:01 > 1:17:02the weather.

1:17:02 > 1:17:04Slowly but surely our weather is changing.

1:17:04 > 1:17:06Certainly we will find it turning milder through the weekend.

1:17:06 > 1:17:09But rather than blue skies and wintry showers we have got

1:17:09 > 1:17:11more cloud this weekend, and the cloud is thick

1:17:11 > 1:17:14enough to give us rain and drizzle from time to time.

1:17:14 > 1:17:16A dull picture with cloudy skies for many through the morning.

1:17:16 > 1:17:19Rain and drizzle across East Anglia and south-east, fading away and damp

1:17:19 > 1:17:25towards the south-west.

1:17:25 > 1:17:27Rain coming in towards the north of Scotland.

1:17:27 > 1:17:30We will probably hang on to cloudy skies and some drizzly showers

1:17:30 > 1:17:32across Wales and the south-west and into the Midlands perhaps.

1:17:32 > 1:17:34Temperatures struggling up the eastern side of England,

1:17:34 > 1:17:36especially south-east and East Anglia, five or six

1:17:36 > 1:17:41Celsius, still quite cold.

1:17:41 > 1:17:44Sunshine perhaps in north-eastern part of England and the east

1:17:44 > 1:17:46Pennines, and in Scotland a glimmer of brightness, and Northern Ireland,

1:17:46 > 1:17:49too, and some rain and stronger winds for the northernmost

1:17:49 > 1:17:49part of Scotland.

1:17:49 > 1:17:59Wetter weather over the Highlands.

1:17:59 > 1:18:01What happens this evening and overnight is patchy,

1:18:01 > 1:18:03mostly light rain sinking further south, moves away from Scotland down

1:18:03 > 1:18:04into Northern Ireland, into Wales,

1:18:04 > 1:18:07through northern England and towards the Midlands and East Anglia.

1:18:07 > 1:18:09It's a weather front bringing all that lot.

1:18:09 > 1:18:11Keep the temperature up as the cloud breaks,

1:18:11 > 1:18:13and behind that in Scotland it could turn chilly.

1:18:13 > 1:18:14Otherwise a mild night ahead.

1:18:14 > 1:18:16Really cold air we had recently, actually all the way

1:18:16 > 1:18:17into the near continent.

1:18:17 > 1:18:19Keep the temperature up as the cloud breaks,

1:18:19 > 1:18:22and behind that in Scotland it could turn chilly.

1:18:22 > 1:18:23Otherwise a mild night ahead.

1:18:23 > 1:18:25Instead, although we have high pressure towards the west,

1:18:25 > 1:18:28around the top of it, we are drawing down some milder air.

1:18:28 > 1:18:30Having said that, a chilly start across eastern Scotland, sunshine

1:18:30 > 1:18:33for a while across Scotland, and we will see cloud breaking up

1:18:33 > 1:18:35in northern England, so a chance of sunshine and perhaps

1:18:35 > 1:18:38improving through the day across East Wales, Midlands

1:18:38 > 1:18:41and East Anglia and maybe the south-east where temperatures

1:18:41 > 1:18:43will be higher than today, nine or 10 Celsius.

1:18:43 > 1:18:46Across the western UK, cloudy and dull.

1:18:46 > 1:18:49Damp as well.

1:18:49 > 1:18:52This is how we start the new week, cloudy skies for many again.

1:18:52 > 1:18:57Best chance of sunshine across the eastern side of the UK.

1:18:57 > 1:18:59A mild start with nine or 10 Celsius.

1:18:59 > 1:19:02The middle part of the week could get rather wet and then cold

1:19:02 > 1:19:04air returns by the end of the week.

1:19:04 > 1:19:10Back to you.

1:19:10 > 1:19:12Thank you very much.

1:19:12 > 1:19:14The Christmas period can be stressful and overbearing

1:19:14 > 1:19:16at the best of times, but it can be even more

1:19:16 > 1:19:19challenging if you are a parent of a child with autism.

1:19:19 > 1:19:21The change of routine, noise and unfamiliarity can

1:19:21 > 1:19:28all combine to make the festive season particularly difficult.

1:19:28 > 1:19:31So Breakfast's John Maguire has been to visit a Santa's Grotto

1:19:31 > 1:19:33with a difference - one that's been adapted

1:19:33 > 1:19:34to become autism-friendly.

1:19:34 > 1:19:37As the song goes, it's the most wonderful time of the year,

1:19:37 > 1:19:41but not for everyone.

1:19:41 > 1:19:45I used to hate Christmas because you never got it.

1:19:45 > 1:19:47He didn't want presents and it's his birthday on

1:19:47 > 1:19:48New Year's Day.

1:19:48 > 1:19:52So you just sort of missed out on everything.

1:19:52 > 1:19:55Julie's 13-year-old son Joe has autism and in the past Christmas has

1:19:55 > 1:19:56been difficult for the whole family.

1:19:56 > 1:20:02We couldn't wrap the presents for a few years because he couldn't

1:20:02 > 1:20:06bear the noise of them opening.

1:20:06 > 1:20:09The autism affects the senses and it blocks him from

1:20:09 > 1:20:10understanding things so you have to reduce everything,

1:20:10 > 1:20:14so you don't have a big celebration, everything is kept on the down low,

1:20:14 > 1:20:17but as he's got older we've been able to expand each year and add

1:20:17 > 1:20:20an extra element each Christmas, so this year he'll have his presents

1:20:20 > 1:20:22wrapped, so I'm looking forward to that.

1:20:22 > 1:20:25Julie approached her local garden centre in Liverpool and suggested

1:20:25 > 1:20:30this, Silent Santa Night, designed for children with autism.

1:20:30 > 1:20:33The music is quieter, there are no queues and Julie's

1:20:33 > 1:20:36trained Father Christmas and his elves on what to say

1:20:36 > 1:20:41and crucially what not to say to the children.

1:20:41 > 1:20:44"Have you been a good boy," that could really stress somebody out

1:20:44 > 1:20:50and just little tips where they can

1:20:50 > 1:20:53say, "Just try to be the best you can be," or,

1:20:53 > 1:20:55"Have you been the best you can be?"

1:20:55 > 1:20:57Rather than challenging the child.

1:20:57 > 1:20:58I had it turned off.

1:20:58 > 1:21:00Really quiet I like it.

1:21:00 > 1:21:03A few weeks ago we met Oscar and this family who told us

1:21:03 > 1:21:06about the difficulties they face when going shopping.

1:21:06 > 1:21:10Well, tonight, a very excited and a very happy Oscar is doing

1:21:10 > 1:21:12something this parents say would usually be just too

1:21:12 > 1:21:15much for him.

1:21:15 > 1:21:18I'll give it to my elves when I get back to the

1:21:18 > 1:21:20North Pole and we'll sort all your presents out.

1:21:20 > 1:21:21Are you real?

1:21:21 > 1:21:22Of course, I'm the real Santa.

1:21:22 > 1:21:25See my beard, look.

1:21:25 > 1:21:27A really nice experience.

1:21:27 > 1:21:29We've normally avoided Santas grottos

1:21:29 > 1:21:34at Christmas time because of Oscar's condition.

1:21:34 > 1:21:36It could be the lights, the sensory overload,

1:21:36 > 1:21:39but coming here he's so excited and he's able to engage

1:21:39 > 1:21:41and understand the whole process, which is not what we would

1:21:41 > 1:21:50experience in general.

1:21:50 > 1:21:52What else did he tell you, what's he going to do

1:21:52 > 1:21:55with your list?

1:21:55 > 1:21:58Take it to the elves.

1:21:58 > 1:21:59Yes, at the North Pole.

1:21:59 > 1:22:00It's a long way!

1:22:00 > 1:22:01It is a long way.

1:22:01 > 1:22:03It's hoped these nights will become commonplace,

1:22:03 > 1:22:07ensuring Christmas is special for as many children as possible.

1:22:07 > 1:22:08Bye, John.

1:22:08 > 1:22:18Bye, Oscar.

1:22:18 > 1:22:23Good to have a space to enjoy the festive season at peace. The time is

1:22:23 > 1:22:249:51am.

1:22:24 > 1:22:27Meghan Markle has had a taste of her future royal life,

1:22:27 > 1:22:29joining her fiance Prince Harry on their first official public

1:22:29 > 1:22:34engagement in Nottingham yesterday.

1:22:34 > 1:22:36The pictures were on all the front pages.

1:22:36 > 1:22:39Crowds lined the streets to see the couple who were visiting

1:22:39 > 1:22:41a charity fair hosted by the Terrence Higgins Trust

1:22:41 > 1:22:42to mark World Aids Day.

1:22:42 > 1:22:44The Royal commentator, James Brooks, was at the event

1:22:44 > 1:22:46along with Lizzie Jordan, who's an HIV campaigner.

1:22:46 > 1:22:50We can talk to them now.

1:22:50 > 1:22:56Good morning. James, we will show you some

1:22:56 > 1:23:00pictures as we talk, and give a sense of the occasion. Everyone was

1:23:00 > 1:23:03looking forward to this and saying this is the first outing as a

1:23:03 > 1:23:06couple. We did not know how it would be but we had a sense they are

1:23:06 > 1:23:11relaxed and each other's company. What did you make of what you saw?

1:23:11 > 1:23:15It was a cold day, freezing down there, but it took well to build up.

1:23:15 > 1:23:21We did not know how many crowds would turn out and whether would be

1:23:21 > 1:23:24popular. But as the morning got on, about half an hour before they were

1:23:24 > 1:23:30expected to arrive, the crowd build built up.

1:23:30 > 1:23:33This is where you were... You are very much involved in the campaign

1:23:33 > 1:23:38they are. Tell us what happened. They came in the room?

1:23:38 > 1:23:43There are groups of organisations, and my organisation was represented

1:23:43 > 1:23:45there, and Terrence Higgins trust and other charities and

1:23:45 > 1:23:50organisations. Lots of us living with HIV, and we got to connect with

1:23:50 > 1:23:54the Prince and Meghan and share personal stories of our lives living

1:23:54 > 1:23:57with a stigmatised health condition. Can you explain your own personal

1:23:57 > 1:24:02link? I was diagnosed 11 years ago after

1:24:02 > 1:24:07the death of my partner and since then I have gone on to do a lot of

1:24:07 > 1:24:11work around bringing a face to the condition that does not fit with

1:24:11 > 1:24:15stereotypes people assume someone with HIV has.

1:24:15 > 1:24:19A lot of what has been made of the couple, and about the manufacturing

1:24:19 > 1:24:24of this appearance, this first appearance, it is no coincidence

1:24:24 > 1:24:30that Princess Diana was a great patron of this charity, and did a

1:24:30 > 1:24:42lot of work for recognising HIV and it was the way in which he brought

1:24:42 > 1:24:44important is to its appearance. He wants to make a difference to

1:24:44 > 1:24:51people's lives. Like the charity Lizzie and other charities and

1:24:51 > 1:24:52causes are involved with that as well.

1:24:52 > 1:25:00A lot of the imagery is react relaxed... A touch Johnny and... But

1:25:00 > 1:25:06without being cynical, a lot of this is managed.

1:25:06 > 1:25:09It is, and will be addressing the next month and coming years to see

1:25:09 > 1:25:14whether that tactility does disappear whether it stays whether

1:25:14 > 1:25:20Meghan puts her own her own royal life. I think there will be aspects

1:25:20 > 1:25:25of Harry helping her along on the way we saw that yesterday. She is

1:25:25 > 1:25:29used to, as an actress, taking selfies with people and she told

1:25:29 > 1:25:32crowds when they asked, sorry, we are not allowed to do that. There

1:25:32 > 1:25:36are bits that she will start to learn and it is a big learning

1:25:36 > 1:25:39curve, but I think the fact that she has got that experience as an

1:25:39 > 1:25:45actress, somebody who is quite OK with the cameras already, it will do

1:25:45 > 1:25:49her a world of good and prepare her for what will be and interesting

1:25:49 > 1:25:55life. On the issue of being prepared for

1:25:55 > 1:25:59situation comedies that first hand, didn't you? When you met her, she

1:25:59 > 1:26:02was instantly... She knew the connection and this is the moment.

1:26:02 > 1:26:05You can see the energy, photograph taken as you mad, and instantly knew

1:26:05 > 1:26:12more than she might have done. You were surprised?

1:26:12 > 1:26:16Yes, she tapped me on the arm and said, we know your story. You are on

1:26:16 > 1:26:22the programme with Harry. And it was genuine and warm. She clearly knew

1:26:22 > 1:26:27her stuff and had seen the programme, and, yes, so warm and

1:26:27 > 1:26:31relaxed. And so informal. Not to cast aspersions on the rest

1:26:31 > 1:26:35of the Royal family but there is great excitement for this couple in

1:26:35 > 1:26:38terms of how they change the image of the Royal family. But that he

1:26:38 > 1:26:43will be able to comment. You have a young son, 12 years old, and you are

1:26:43 > 1:26:46obviously with the website and seeing it grow and peoples interest,

1:26:46 > 1:26:49how will they connect to a different generation?

1:26:49 > 1:26:53My son is mixed race and Megan is as well, and that intersection allergy

1:26:53 > 1:26:58and bringing together and bring a platform to a strong, independent

1:26:58 > 1:27:04woman, that is mixed raced and actually bringing that focus and

1:27:04 > 1:27:12celebrating diversity. -- all of that intersectionality.

1:27:12 > 1:27:16Is he interested in the Royal family?

1:27:16 > 1:27:22He was over the moon to be there yesterday? Incredibly nervous but a

1:27:22 > 1:27:26very cool, calm and collected person. Harry said to him, you must

1:27:26 > 1:27:31be proud of your month. And he said, yeah, of course. And I said, I am so

1:27:31 > 1:27:35proud of him. And Harry when, how great is that? You're proud of each

1:27:35 > 1:27:38other. What do you see in terms of younger

1:27:38 > 1:27:43people engaging with monarchy? The fact that Harry is one of the

1:27:43 > 1:27:47most legible Royals out there, and the fact he is... Yesterday we were

1:27:47 > 1:27:50at Nottingham Academy and he did the walkabout and chatted to some kids

1:27:50 > 1:27:54down there. Chatting to them after words, and seeing how they

1:27:54 > 1:27:58interacted with the kids, it was just the usual questions you would

1:27:58 > 1:28:02get asked. Stuff like, what are you doing this weekend? Rather than, how

1:28:02 > 1:28:13do you feel, the Queen's famous catchphrase of, have you come far?

1:28:13 > 1:28:16Those are receding and what you see from Harry and the younger royals is

1:28:16 > 1:28:20trying to get to know people. They want to be seen as almost one of the

1:28:20 > 1:28:23people. The reality is that as everybody

1:28:23 > 1:28:26knows, and logically, there will be a change in the dynamic of the Royal

1:28:26 > 1:28:30family, and the roles that people do, however that plays out. That

1:28:30 > 1:28:34will happen in the next few years. We're talking about a period of one

1:28:34 > 1:28:37year, five years, but there will be big changes, want their?

1:28:37 > 1:28:42Obviously we don't want to assume what will happen but we will start

1:28:42 > 1:28:44to see... There is an assumption that the

1:28:44 > 1:28:49Queen will Bullock was some official duties in the -- there is an

1:28:49 > 1:28:52assumption that the Queen will roll English official duties in the next

1:28:52 > 1:28:57two years. The Duke of Edinburgh stepped down

1:28:57 > 1:28:59as commander of the Brigadier guards and Prince Andrew has taken over.

1:28:59 > 1:29:05Over the next year 's patron ages will be passed to the Royal royals

1:29:05 > 1:29:09-- passed to the younger royals, and that is key for Harry, Meghan

1:29:09 > 1:29:09-- passed to the younger royals, and that is key for Harry, Meghan,

1:29:09 > 1:29:12William and Catherine, it is to engage with those passion points

1:29:12 > 1:29:18they want to put out there. Lizzie, a last thought, a great day

1:29:18 > 1:29:23for you and your son personally, but tangible difference for the

1:29:23 > 1:29:27campaigning groups when the Royal company has a part to play?

1:29:27 > 1:29:31Very much. The spotlight they put onto a stigmatised condition is

1:29:31 > 1:29:36fantastic. The coverage about it, the being had, you know, hats off to

1:29:36 > 1:29:40them. Thank you to them for making it happen.

1:29:40 > 1:29:44I give are sharing your experiences. Thank you for joining us this

1:29:44 > 1:29:49morning. Lots of sport going on let's hope England does well for the

1:29:49 > 1:29:55rugby. Breakfast back tomorrow from 6am. Bye-bye.