06/12/2017

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0:00:11 > 0:00:14Hello. Good morning.

0:00:14 > 0:00:17This is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20Two men are due in court accused of a plot to kill the Prime

0:00:20 > 0:00:21Minister.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24The alleged plan was to target Theresa May while she was at

0:00:24 > 0:00:27Downing Street, bombing the security gates before launching a knife

0:00:27 > 0:00:29attack in the confusion that would follow.

0:00:44 > 0:00:45Good morning.

0:00:45 > 0:00:46It's Wednesday the sixth of December.

0:00:46 > 0:00:47Also this morning:

0:00:47 > 0:00:50President Trump breaks with decades of American policy on Israel.

0:00:50 > 0:00:53The White House says he will formally recognise Jerusalem

0:00:53 > 0:01:00as its capital, and will move the US embassy there from Tel Aviv.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02Wildfires tear through Southern California as thousands

0:01:02 > 0:01:08of people are forced to flee from their homes.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10Christine Keeler, the former model at the centre of the Profumo

0:01:10 > 0:01:13scandal, has died at the age of 75.

0:01:13 > 0:01:18We'll look back at her life.

0:01:18 > 0:01:19Good morning.

0:01:19 > 0:01:22Over a third of us are popping Christmas on credit this year,

0:01:22 > 0:01:25and over two million people are almost constantly

0:01:25 > 0:01:26in their overdraft.

0:01:26 > 0:01:29I'm looking at festive finances, and not blowing your budget.

0:01:29 > 0:01:34Good morning. But not if you are an English cricket fans.

0:01:34 > 0:01:37In sport, England go two down in the Ashes.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40Their batsmen are blown away by Australia in less than two hours

0:01:40 > 0:01:41on the final day in Adelaide.

0:01:41 > 0:01:45And Carol has the weather for us this morning. And she's feeling

0:01:45 > 0:01:45festive. Good morning.

0:01:45 > 0:01:52Good morning from winter wonderland in Hyde Park in London. This is the

0:01:52 > 0:02:00most photographed part. It is mild today. Cloudy and wet and windy in

0:02:00 > 0:02:06the north. And then the weather really changes. I will have the

0:02:06 > 0:02:09details in 15 minutes. Thank you!

0:02:09 > 0:02:11Good morning.

0:02:11 > 0:02:13First, our main story:

0:02:13 > 0:02:17Two men are due to appear in court today, accused of a plot to kill

0:02:17 > 0:02:17the Prime Minister.

0:02:17 > 0:02:19Both suspects were detained last month.

0:02:19 > 0:02:21Andy Moore reports.

0:02:21 > 0:02:28Number 10 Downing St, the target of an alleged Islamist plot to kill the

0:02:28 > 0:02:31Prime Minister that it is understood the allegations were they tried to

0:02:31 > 0:02:36blow up the gate to Downing Street and in the ensuing chaos, launch a

0:02:36 > 0:02:44knife attack against Theresa May. Two men have been charged with

0:02:44 > 0:02:55terrorism offences. One is 20 and the other is 21. Andrew Parker, the

0:02:55 > 0:02:59head of MI5, briefed the Prime Minister and the cabinet yesterday

0:02:59 > 0:03:02about nine alleged Islamist terror plots that have been foiled since

0:03:02 > 0:03:07March this year. In the House of Commons, the Home Secretary said

0:03:07 > 0:03:11police would have the money they needed.We will shortly be

0:03:11 > 0:03:16announcing the budgets for policing for 2017-18, and I am clear that we

0:03:16 > 0:03:20must ensure counterterrorism policing has the resources needed to

0:03:20 > 0:03:26deal with the threats that we face. Yesterday, a report into the four

0:03:26 > 0:03:30terror attacks in the UK this year said some of those who carried them

0:03:30 > 0:03:36out were known to the security services. It suggested it was

0:03:36 > 0:03:38conceivable the Manchester Arena attack which killed 22 people could

0:03:38 > 0:03:43have been stopped. 15-year-old Olivia Campbell Hardy was one of

0:03:43 > 0:03:48those victims. The grandfather said he was not blaming the security

0:03:48 > 0:03:53services.They will do the best they can with the information they have

0:03:53 > 0:03:58got and gather, assess it themselves, assess the situation,

0:03:58 > 0:04:06make decisions, and act on it.The security services say the level of

0:04:06 > 0:04:08threat remains unprecedented, with over 500 active counter terror

0:04:08 > 0:04:19investigation. Andy Moore, BBC News. -- investigations.

0:04:19 > 0:04:22We'll be speaking to the security specialist, Will Geddes,

0:04:22 > 0:04:24to get his thoughts on this story.

0:04:24 > 0:04:25That's at 6:20.

0:04:25 > 0:04:27There's increasing pressure on the government to get Brexit

0:04:27 > 0:04:29negotiations back on track after an intervention

0:04:29 > 0:04:31by Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party stalled

0:04:31 > 0:04:32talks in Brussels.

0:04:32 > 0:04:34The Irish border may be the key sticking point,

0:04:34 > 0:04:37but divisions in the Conservative Party are further complicating

0:04:37 > 0:04:38matters for the Prime Minister.

0:04:38 > 0:04:40Our political correspondent, Leila Nathoo, is in Westminster this

0:04:40 > 0:04:41morning.

0:04:41 > 0:04:41Good morning.

0:04:41 > 0:04:44At the start of this week, the Prime Minister appeared poised

0:04:44 > 0:04:48to move Brexit talks into the second stage but that fell apart.

0:04:48 > 0:04:51How soon can we now expect things to get going?

0:04:51 > 0:04:55If you think back to Monday when Theresa May went to Brussels for her

0:04:55 > 0:05:00big lunch, all the signs were that there was going to be a bit of

0:05:00 > 0:05:04last-minute wrangling. But broadly, we were there on sorting out the

0:05:04 > 0:05:09main divorce bill matters, the money, the rights of citizens here

0:05:09 > 0:05:14and abroad, and the tricky issue of the Irish border, how that will look

0:05:14 > 0:05:19after Brexit, what will be the UK's land frontier with the EU after we

0:05:19 > 0:05:24leave. But what Theresa May offered, on the table, on the Irish border

0:05:24 > 0:05:30issue, to try to give the EU happy, to keep Ireland happy, was a

0:05:30 > 0:05:35continued mirroring of rules and standards in Northern Ireland,

0:05:35 > 0:05:40broadly mirroring those of the EU after Brexit. And we now know that

0:05:40 > 0:05:45that, at the 11th hour, was unacceptable, that came as a shock

0:05:45 > 0:05:50to Theresa May's coalition, unofficial coalition partners, the

0:05:50 > 0:05:56DNP, the party she relies upon to keep a majority in Parliament. --

0:05:56 > 0:06:01DUP. And they pulled the plug on that proposal at the 11 hour, saying

0:06:01 > 0:06:04they would never accept something that would make Northern Ireland

0:06:04 > 0:06:08different, or a standout from the rest of the UK. Be so Theresa May

0:06:08 > 0:06:16has come back empty-handed on Brussels. She came back to cries of

0:06:16 > 0:06:21compromising from her own party and claims of being ineffective from the

0:06:21 > 0:06:28Labour Party. We know the right channels open between the parties.

0:06:28 > 0:06:34The signs at the moment seem to be that she is no closer towards

0:06:34 > 0:06:41getting something together to take to Brussels to get talks to move on

0:06:41 > 0:06:46the trade. As the EU said, the ball is very much in the court of the UK.

0:06:46 > 0:06:53Thank you. Quite a few days ahead on that.I think we will continue on

0:06:53 > 0:06:57that. That is the general feeling.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00The White House says President Trump is to break with decades of American

0:07:00 > 0:07:03policy on Israel and is to recognise Jerusalem as the capital

0:07:03 > 0:07:04of Israel.

0:07:04 > 0:07:06He's expected to direct the State Department to begin

0:07:06 > 0:07:09the process of moving the US embassy there from Tel Aviv,

0:07:09 > 0:07:11a process which may take several years.

0:07:11 > 0:07:14But Arab leaders earlier warned against moving the embassy,

0:07:14 > 0:07:16saying it would be "a flagrant provocation to Muslims."

0:07:16 > 0:07:18Our North America correspondent, Peter Bowes, reports.

0:07:18 > 0:07:23Donald Trump is venturing into uncharted territory.

0:07:23 > 0:07:27The President will recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel,

0:07:27 > 0:07:30making the US the first country to

0:07:30 > 0:07:36do so since the foundation of the state in 1948.

0:07:36 > 0:07:39He's already indicated he intends to move the American Embassy

0:07:39 > 0:07:42to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, and he's informed regional leaders

0:07:42 > 0:07:43of his plans.

0:07:43 > 0:07:51The reaction has been heated.

0:07:51 > 0:07:53Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas, has warned of dangerous consequences

0:07:53 > 0:07:56for the peace, security and stability of the region

0:07:56 > 0:07:57and of the world.

0:07:57 > 0:08:00Jordan's King Abdullah said the decision would undermine efforts

0:08:00 > 0:08:02to renew the peace process and provoke Muslims.

0:08:02 > 0:08:04Saudi Arabia's King Salman told Mr Trump the relocation

0:08:04 > 0:08:07of the embassy or recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital

0:08:07 > 0:08:09would constitute a flagrant provocation of Muslims

0:08:09 > 0:08:13all over the world.

0:08:13 > 0:08:16The status of Jerusalem goes to the heart of Israel's conflict

0:08:16 > 0:08:18with the Palestinians.

0:08:18 > 0:08:20Political observers say the President's treading a fine

0:08:20 > 0:08:23line between acknowledging a historic reality and alienating

0:08:23 > 0:08:31Palestinians.

0:08:31 > 0:08:39Israel's intelligence minister has said the country is preparing

0:08:39 > 0:08:39for every

0:08:39 > 0:08:41option, including an outbreak of violence.

0:08:41 > 0:08:44US citizens have been warned by the State Department to ignore

0:08:44 > 0:08:45areas with crowds.

0:08:45 > 0:08:51Peter Bowes, BBC News.

0:08:51 > 0:08:52There are warnings from charities this morning that people are facing

0:08:56 > 0:08:58Russia has been banned from competing at next year's winter

0:08:58 > 0:09:00Olympics in South Korea following an investigation

0:09:00 > 0:09:03into state-sponsored doping at the Sochi Games four years ago.

0:09:03 > 0:09:05The International Olympic Committee issued the punishment yesterday,

0:09:05 > 0:09:09but said Russian athletes who can prove they are clean will be allowed

0:09:09 > 0:09:10to compete, under a neutral flag.

0:09:10 > 0:09:13We can talk now to our Moscow correspondent Steve Rosenberg

0:09:13 > 0:09:14for the latest.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17What has the reaction been till it a feeling of deep disappointment mixed

0:09:17 > 0:09:21with outrage and a sense of injustice. They say it is a

0:09:21 > 0:09:26humiliation and insults to Russia. A prominent figure skating trainer has

0:09:26 > 0:09:34said they have murdered Russian sport. They say it is a punch in the

0:09:34 > 0:09:39stomach.The Russian government paper does not hold back. It says by

0:09:39 > 0:09:44preventing Russian athletes from performing with their flag and

0:09:44 > 0:09:51national anthem, they are speaking in our face. Strong words in Russia.

0:09:51 > 0:09:55Absolutely. Thank you very much indeed. Thank you.

0:09:55 > 0:09:57The winner of this year's prestigious Turner Prize

0:09:57 > 0:09:59was announced in Hull last night.

0:09:59 > 0:10:02Lubaina Himid has become both the oldest winner and the first ever

0:10:02 > 0:10:04woman of colour to take the award.

0:10:04 > 0:10:06The 63-year-old artist was born in Zanzibar,

0:10:06 > 0:10:10but is now based in Preston, and uses her work to address racial

0:10:10 > 0:10:18politics and the legacy of slavery.

0:10:18 > 0:10:25She says she will spend the money on shoes. A nice way to spend it.

0:10:25 > 0:10:30Congratulations to her. That would be a nice pair of shoes.I am sure

0:10:30 > 0:10:38she will help other artists as well. Shall we tell you the news about the

0:10:38 > 0:10:49Ashes?It is all over. I will tell you straight. It is all over. It is

0:10:49 > 0:10:53like taking off a plaster. It is all over the if you went to bed

0:10:53 > 0:11:00expecting some miraculous victory... I had a little hope. We were naive.

0:11:00 > 0:11:05I am incredibly optimistic, but that is always my downfall.Some England

0:11:05 > 0:11:13fans were, but it was not meant to be. Or just was not at all...

0:11:13 > 0:11:23England are 2-0 down.The Australians win the second test by

0:11:23 > 0:11:29120 runs.It is obviously very disappointing. I thought the way we

0:11:29 > 0:11:33responded, umm, both with ball and bad in the second innings was

0:11:33 > 0:11:37outstanding. Especially the way we played last night, in those

0:11:37 > 0:11:42conditions. -- bat. I thought we showed a lot of character. That is

0:11:42 > 0:11:47what you want to see in a big series like this. Finding a way to do it

0:11:47 > 0:11:52for longer periods of time and doing it over five days, that is all we

0:11:52 > 0:11:53have to do now.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56Chelsea could face Barcelona or Paris St Germain in the next

0:11:56 > 0:11:59round after a 1-1 draw with Atletico Madrid sees them take

0:11:59 > 0:12:00second place in their group.

0:12:00 > 0:12:03Manchester United topped their group after beating CSKA Moscow.

0:12:03 > 0:12:05And Scottish champions Celtic go through to the Europa League,

0:12:05 > 0:12:07despite losing 1-0 to Anderlecht.

0:12:07 > 0:12:16Celtic finish third in Group B on goal difference.

0:12:16 > 0:12:17Five-time champion, Ronnie O'Sullivan,

0:12:17 > 0:12:20is through to the last 16 of Snooker's UK Championships

0:12:20 > 0:12:22after thrashing Michael White by six frame to one.

0:12:22 > 0:12:25The victory takes him a step closer to matching Steve Davis's record

0:12:25 > 0:12:31of six UK titles.

0:12:31 > 0:12:43And apparently, Ronnie O'Sullivan wants to go into I Am A Celebrity

0:12:43 > 0:12:49next year. Perhaps Amir Khan inspired him. Cold temperatures on

0:12:49 > 0:12:56their way.Good morning.

0:12:56 > 0:13:01I am in Hyde Park in London. If you want to enjoy Christmas, this is a

0:13:01 > 0:13:06good place to come. The biggest outdoor ice rink in the UK. It will

0:13:06 > 0:13:14be -10. A good 20 degrees lower. If you are coming down, you will need

0:13:14 > 0:13:19to wrap up warmly. I will reveal more through the morning. Today will

0:13:19 > 0:13:25be exceptionally mild. Wet and windy weather coming in across the north

0:13:25 > 0:13:29of the country. Cloudy and mild for much of the rest of the UK. We start

0:13:29 > 0:13:33the forecast this morning at nine o'clock. Wet in the north-west of

0:13:33 > 0:13:39Scotland. Windy. At the moment, a bit of a lull. A windy day

0:13:39 > 0:13:43generally. The east and south of Scotland, mostly dry. North-west

0:13:43 > 0:13:47England, a few showers coming out of the thickest cloud this morning. The

0:13:47 > 0:13:54north-east, bright skies. South, the Midlands, down towards the south

0:13:54 > 0:13:58coast, a lot of cloud. Again, the Kienast here and there, mostly on

0:13:58 > 0:14:04the hills, for the odd shower. -- the thickest. You can see the

0:14:04 > 0:14:08temperatures at nine o'clock, 12 degrees. Across Wales this morning,

0:14:08 > 0:14:14cloudy. Some bright breaks. Equally, showers on the hills. Northern

0:14:14 > 0:14:20Ireland, you have a wet start and also a windy one. Now, as we go

0:14:20 > 0:14:24through the course of the day, what will find it a wet and windy weather

0:14:24 > 0:14:28across the north will slowly move south-east. The strongest winds will

0:14:28 > 0:14:32be across the north of Scotland. But it is going to be a windy day really

0:14:32 > 0:14:39wherever you are. And we will see some holes developing in the cloud.

0:14:39 > 0:14:45Locally in the south-east it could be 14. Now, as we had to the evening

0:14:45 > 0:14:48and overnight, the wind does strengthen. In fact, it strengthens

0:14:48 > 0:14:58a lot. Gales in the west. A cold night. By the end of the night, we

0:14:58 > 0:15:03have Storm Caroline on our doorstep bringing strong winds. Snow showers

0:15:03 > 0:15:07in the north-west, even at lower levels. That is how we start

0:15:07 > 0:15:11tomorrow, with Storm Caroline in the north. Again, it is moving east

0:15:11 > 0:15:15across the north of Scotland. Snow at lower levels. Blizzard

0:15:15 > 0:15:20conditions. Meanwhile, rain moving quickly to the south-east of England

0:15:20 > 0:15:25accompanied by strong winds. Behind that, bright skies. The wind will be

0:15:25 > 0:15:29strong, even in the low lens during the rush-hour. If you have plans

0:15:29 > 0:15:31strong, even in the low lens during the rush-hour. If you have plans

0:15:31 > 0:15:35tomorrow, keep up with the forecast. Friday morning, snow showers at

0:15:35 > 0:15:39lower levels in Northern Ireland, part of Scotland, north-west

0:15:39 > 0:15:42England, Manchester area, and through the course of the day, you

0:15:42 > 0:15:48will find further snow showers flown in on the wind. Getting quite far

0:15:48 > 0:15:54inland at times. Equally, sunshine around. That leads us into Friday.

0:15:54 > 0:15:59We are not immune to snow showers coming in. Dry weather around as

0:15:59 > 0:16:04well. It will feel cold, especially compared today. You will notice it

0:16:04 > 0:16:12big drop in the temperatures. We are not done with the snow yet. Further

0:16:12 > 0:16:20showers. On Sunday, you can see a lot of snow, so be careful driving

0:16:20 > 0:16:25from the Midlands northwards. The timing is open to question. But I

0:16:25 > 0:16:32want to place that thought in your mind at this stage. Back to you. I

0:16:32 > 0:16:39am riding my bike 50 miles. It does not look good.

0:16:39 > 0:16:43am riding my bike 50 miles. It does not look good. Thanks very much! 50

0:16:43 > 0:16:51miles, that isn't a bike ride!It is a fun bike ride.One mile would be a

0:16:51 > 0:16:53fun bike ride!It is 52 actually!

0:16:53 > 0:16:55Let's take a look at today's papers.

0:16:55 > 0:16:59The Daily Mirror, the story we are leading with, the alleged terror

0:16:59 > 0:17:03plot to kill Theresa May. Two men are due in court today after police

0:17:03 > 0:17:07foiled a plan to bomb Downing Street and they've also got a story about

0:17:07 > 0:17:12the man who writes the gags for Ant and Dec on I'm A Celebrity. Is very

0:17:12 > 0:17:18good and they are very funny. The front page of the Sun -- he's very

0:17:18 > 0:17:22good. The Daily Telegraph talks about MI5 foiling this Islamist

0:17:22 > 0:17:26terror plot to kill Theresa May, we will have the details through the

0:17:26 > 0:17:31morning. Wheat will talk to a terror expert shortly. Lots of the papers

0:17:31 > 0:17:35carrying pictures of Christine Keeler -- we will. She died

0:17:35 > 0:17:40yesterday and they are looking at her impact on government. You will

0:17:40 > 0:17:46remember the Profumo affair, featured in that film, Scandal, we

0:17:46 > 0:17:51will talk to one of the directors involved in that. Such a famous

0:17:51 > 0:17:54picture. The Ministry of Defence bands Philip Hammond for using its

0:17:54 > 0:17:58planes, this is a row with the Chancellor escalating over an unpaid

0:17:58 > 0:18:02bill. Another picture of Christine Keeler. Not the picture most of the

0:18:02 > 0:18:07papers have gone for with the chair. The chair is now in a museum, it is

0:18:07 > 0:18:12so famous.I didn't know that.My goodness, something you didn't know!

0:18:12 > 0:18:18Mark it down in the book!It is a first to be honest!There's a lot of

0:18:18 > 0:18:22things I don't know! On the front page of the Mail they are

0:18:22 > 0:18:27celebrating their front-page.We were talking to the UN boss of

0:18:27 > 0:18:31oceans yesterday about plastic. Lot at our excellent front-page! They

0:18:31 > 0:18:36are talking about the conference in Kenya about the future of the planet

0:18:36 > 0:18:42in regards to plastic.A huge talking point and Blue Planet II has

0:18:42 > 0:18:46brought that to the forefront with a huge series on plastic in the sea

0:18:46 > 0:18:50and David Attenborough went editorial on it.My family is from

0:18:50 > 0:18:55Kenya, your suitcase gets completely... It is really difficult

0:18:55 > 0:19:00because you have to take every single bit of plastic out. You have

0:19:00 > 0:19:03to think about it.What about your security plastic bag?Everything,

0:19:03 > 0:19:09everything.Steph, shall we start with you?I'm going to talk about

0:19:09 > 0:19:13trains because we found out yesterday that rail passengers will

0:19:13 > 0:19:18be facing a fairly "Is in fares. They are saying ticket prices will

0:19:18 > 0:19:27go up 3.4% on average -- a fairly big increase in fares. It's below

0:19:27 > 0:19:33wage rises so this is unfair they say, considering the fact official

0:19:33 > 0:19:37figures show one in nine trains it was late last year. Not great news

0:19:37 > 0:19:43about rail tickets. -- one in nine trains was late last year. Have you

0:19:43 > 0:19:49ever sat in a quiet carriage on the train?Often.The worst thing you

0:19:49 > 0:19:54can do is open a bag of crisps. That happened to me and I got told off

0:19:54 > 0:20:03for eating Monster Munch, other flavours are available.What

0:20:03 > 0:20:08flavour?Pickled onion. That could have been the reason! They are

0:20:08 > 0:20:11thinking about getting rid of them on trains, south-western Railways

0:20:11 > 0:20:16are thinking about getting rid of them because it is the key to keep

0:20:16 > 0:20:21people quiet. The thing I found most interesting about this is there's a

0:20:21 > 0:20:26society called the Noise Abatement Society and they are fuming about

0:20:26 > 0:20:31this.I'm a big fan of the quiet carriage and on Virgin Trains they

0:20:31 > 0:20:35said you can talk because there's been discussion about that.But you

0:20:35 > 0:20:40feel guilty, don't you?It's the only time I get away from noisy kids

0:20:40 > 0:20:47so they can't go!What have you got? In the Telegraph, Kelly Sutton,

0:20:47 > 0:20:50former heptathlete, talking about Russian athletes not being allowed

0:20:50 > 0:20:54to compete even as neutrals because she doesn't think they will be

0:20:54 > 0:20:57neutral and athletes will have an element of doubt if they are not

0:20:57 > 0:21:03competing against a Russian. And in the Sun, a picture Arsenal fans

0:21:03 > 0:21:08won't want to see, Jack Wilshire on ice skates, he even joked, he said

0:21:08 > 0:21:11positive week, got through 20 minutes of ice skating without

0:21:11 > 0:21:16getting injured. Jack Wilshere has missed an incredible 155 Arsenal

0:21:16 > 0:21:23matches and is only just coming back into form. A quick one in the Daily

0:21:23 > 0:21:26Mail, Sunderland striker Duncan Watmore has received a letter of

0:21:26 > 0:21:30support from Real Madrid for his serious knee injury.That's nice!

0:21:30 > 0:21:35Can I show you this picture, I was driving yesterday and I saw lots of

0:21:35 > 0:21:39lovely houses with decorations but the Guardian have gone spectacular.

0:21:39 > 0:21:46Some of those are surely a step too far?Steph and I...You can't go

0:21:46 > 0:21:52overboard with decorations, they are abroad.Fantastic! One of my

0:21:52 > 0:21:55favourites, this is a pub, decorated entirely with lots of different

0:21:55 > 0:21:59Christmas trees so thank you to the Guardian for that.A celebration.

0:21:59 > 0:22:04Talking about eating crisps in the quiet coach, a story here I want to

0:22:04 > 0:22:09pick up on in the Times, do you eat in the theatre?That's different,

0:22:09 > 0:22:13that's a different ballgame.One group of theatres are starting to

0:22:13 > 0:22:19test bags of various snacks to see how loud they are.I would love that

0:22:19 > 0:22:26job!Our popcorn was taken away from us at a theatre on Sunday. You eat

0:22:26 > 0:22:35popcorn in a theatre? We took it in but they took it away.Maybe this is

0:22:35 > 0:22:40about you? It was at the Lyric Theatre and it was the Graph low.

0:22:40 > 0:22:49They took it away from a child and she cried. -- Gruffalo.

0:22:49 > 0:22:53Let's return to our top story, reports this morning that an alleged

0:22:53 > 0:22:55terror attack targeting the Prime Minister has been foiled

0:22:55 > 0:23:01by security services.

0:23:01 > 0:23:03Yesterday Andrew Parker, the head of MI5,

0:23:03 > 0:23:06briefed the Prime Minister and the cabinet yesterday about nine

0:23:06 > 0:23:08alleged Islamist terror plots that have been foiled

0:23:08 > 0:23:09since March this year.

0:23:09 > 0:23:11We're joined in our London studio

0:23:11 > 0:23:12by the security specialist Will Geddes.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14Good morning.

0:23:14 > 0:23:18Thanks for coming on the programme to discuss this this morning. We're

0:23:18 > 0:23:23talking about this alleged plot to kill Theresa May. We know two men

0:23:23 > 0:23:27accused of that are due in court today so we can't go into the detail

0:23:27 > 0:23:30of that but safety is a security around the Prime Minister will

0:23:30 > 0:23:37already be incredibly high?-- safe to say security. The chance of

0:23:37 > 0:23:40success for these individuals allegedly that planned this attack,

0:23:40 > 0:23:44and it was going to comprise of a variety of elements that we are

0:23:44 > 0:23:47beginning to see more commonly these days with terrorist attacks,

0:23:47 > 0:23:51starting with an eye Eid that was allegedly going to be planted by the

0:23:51 > 0:23:56gates of Downing Street -- eye Eid. Then an attack to target the PM

0:23:56 > 0:24:05herself. -- IED. The chances of success were minimal but the media

0:24:05 > 0:24:08success would have been immense. Speaking more broadly, do you think

0:24:08 > 0:24:13those planned attacks are becoming more ambitious generally?It's

0:24:13 > 0:24:18interesting. We have certainly seen these become quite basic, certainly

0:24:18 > 0:24:22those inspired by Islamic State, but what we are perhaps seeing is more

0:24:22 > 0:24:27of a reversion to the old al-Qaeda style which were big spectaculars

0:24:27 > 0:24:32and one thing we know about terrorist groups is they are

0:24:32 > 0:24:37incredibly media savvy. So whatever they do, even if it only has a

0:24:37 > 0:24:42minimal degree of impact in terms of success, if it is done in an iconic

0:24:42 > 0:24:47location it will garnish as much publicity as it can, which again

0:24:47 > 0:24:51only promotes and spread their message to potential individuals

0:24:51 > 0:24:57that they could radicalise.Well, one of the things coming out of the

0:24:57 > 0:25:00review, there were potentially missed opportunities to stop the

0:25:00 > 0:25:06Manchester bomber, do you think the scale or the threat faced by

0:25:06 > 0:25:10security forces means they are facing almost an impossible job on

0:25:10 > 0:25:16occasion?It's an interesting point to debate right now and certainly

0:25:16 > 0:25:20Andrew Parker has made a very clear statement that we are dealing with

0:25:20 > 0:25:26an unprecedented level of plots and individuals in terms of the possible

0:25:26 > 0:25:31security and terrorist risk here in the UK. Certainly it's in excess of

0:25:31 > 0:25:3420,000 subjects of interest. The report itself, although quite

0:25:34 > 0:25:39headline grabbing in terms of the possible failings, I think really is

0:25:39 > 0:25:43actually quite remarkable in terms of some of the detail it gives on

0:25:43 > 0:25:46the tradecraft and particularly the complex nature of intelligence

0:25:46 > 0:25:48gathering

0:25:48 > 0:25:53complex nature of intelligence gathering. You could save there were

0:25:53 > 0:25:57missed opportunities but you could say that often.Amber Rudd mention

0:25:57 > 0:26:02this, it brings into sharp focus the police funding -- mentioned this.

0:26:02 > 0:26:06When they are dealing with the threat they are more stretched than

0:26:06 > 0:26:10in the past?They are under an awful lot of pressure and if we consider

0:26:10 > 0:26:1522 lots have been foiled since Lee Rigby four years ago, that's a

0:26:15 > 0:26:20significant number and those are the only ones the security services are

0:26:20 > 0:26:25letting us know about. There are probably many more beyond that that

0:26:25 > 0:26:29they have intercepted and foiled at earlier stages. In this report by

0:26:29 > 0:26:34David Anderson QC, we are seeing some of the sophistication behind

0:26:34 > 0:26:37certainly the organisation and planning of these plots, which again

0:26:37 > 0:26:41shows what the security services and counterterrorism policing are up

0:26:41 > 0:26:45against.Will Geddes, our security expert joining us this morning to

0:26:45 > 0:26:51talk about many things, including our main story, an alleged plot to

0:26:51 > 0:26:56kill the Prime Minister and two men will appear in court later today. We

0:26:56 > 0:30:16will

0:30:16 > 0:30:18in around half an hour.

0:30:18 > 0:30:21You can hear more news travel and weather on our website.

0:30:21 > 0:30:23Now it's back to Dan and Louise.

0:30:23 > 0:30:23Bye bye.

0:30:30 > 0:30:31Hello. Welcome back.

0:30:31 > 0:30:33This is Breakfast with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

0:30:33 > 0:30:36We'll bring you all the latest news and sport in a moment,

0:30:36 > 0:30:38but also on Breakfast this morning.

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0:30:48 > 0:30:50false information, we're asking why it's important

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0:30:54 > 0:30:58of the artists who were helped onto a world stage thanks to the BBC

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0:31:06 > 0:31:07who is 2017's Artist of the Year.

0:31:07 > 0:31:14And the Turner Prize was announced last night.

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0:31:18 > 0:31:19We're talking to her later about making history.

0:31:21 > 0:31:22Good morning.

0:31:22 > 0:31:25Here's a summary of this morning's main stories from BBC News.

0:31:25 > 0:31:29Two men are due to appear in court today, accused of a plot to attack

0:31:29 > 0:31:31Downing Street and kill the Prime Minister.

0:31:31 > 0:31:33Both suspects were detained last month and have been charged

0:31:33 > 0:31:34with terrorism offences.

0:31:34 > 0:31:38The details of their plans were made public after the head of MI5 briefed

0:31:38 > 0:31:41the governement yesterday about nine alleged terror plots that have been

0:31:41 > 0:31:46foiled since March this year.

0:31:46 > 0:31:48There's increasing pressure on the government to get Brexit

0:31:48 > 0:31:50negotiations back on track after an intervention

0:31:50 > 0:31:52by Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party stalled

0:31:52 > 0:31:53talks in Brussels.

0:31:53 > 0:31:56The Irish border may be the key sticking point but divisions

0:31:56 > 0:31:58within the Conservative Party are further complicating matters

0:31:58 > 0:31:59for the Prime Minister.

0:31:59 > 0:32:02Nevertheless the government insists it remains confident it will be able

0:32:02 > 0:32:16to reach a deal before next week's EU Council meeting.

0:32:16 > 0:32:19The White House says President Trump is to recognise Jerusalem

0:32:19 > 0:32:22as the capital of Israel and will direct the State Department

0:32:22 > 0:32:26to begin the process of moving the US Embassy there from Tel Aviv.

0:32:26 > 0:32:28Arab leaders earlier warned against moving the embassy,

0:32:28 > 0:32:30saying it would be "a flagrant provocation to Muslims."

0:32:30 > 0:32:33But officials said Mr Trump would not move the US embassy

0:32:33 > 0:32:36from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem immediately, and it could

0:32:36 > 0:32:43take several years.

0:32:43 > 0:32:44Banks should end all unauthorised overdraft charges

0:32:44 > 0:32:47because they are trapping people in persistent debt,

0:32:47 > 0:32:48the financial charity StepChange has said.

0:32:48 > 0:32:52It says two million people in the UK used their overdraft facility every

0:32:52 > 0:32:53month last year.

0:32:53 > 0:32:55The organisation wants banks and regulators to do more

0:32:55 > 0:33:00to identify people caught up in a "vicious cycle of borrowing."

0:33:00 > 0:33:04Tens of thousands of people have been forced to flee from the path

0:33:04 > 0:33:05of wildfires in Southern California.

0:33:05 > 0:33:08Hundreds of buildings have been destroyed by the blazes and several

0:33:08 > 0:33:11thousand homes are under mandatory evacuation in the cities of Ventura

0:33:11 > 0:33:13and Santa Paula, north of Los Angeles.

0:33:13 > 0:33:16California has been hit hard by wildfires in recent months.

0:33:16 > 0:33:19At least 40 people were killed when fires ripped through parts

0:33:19 > 0:33:34of northern California's wine region in October.

0:33:34 > 0:33:37Christine Keeler, the former model at the centre of the Profumo

0:33:37 > 0:33:38scandal, has died at the age of 75.

0:33:56 > 0:34:01Let's talk about the Ashes. If you got up at 330 this morning: as I

0:34:01 > 0:34:07did. Actually, you would have been able to go back to bed to have an

0:34:07 > 0:34:21extra sleep.That photo says it all. Australia, 2-0 up in the series. I

0:34:21 > 0:34:27switched the radio on when Chris Woakes was out on the second ball.

0:34:27 > 0:34:31So, it was my fault.

0:34:31 > 0:34:36So, England are now two down in the Ashes. It did not take long.

0:34:36 > 0:34:39It took about an hour and 45 minutes for England's six remaining batsmen

0:34:39 > 0:34:41to go down in Adelaide.

0:34:41 > 0:34:44Chris Woakes was out from the second ball of the day.

0:34:44 > 0:34:46That was the first thing I heard.

0:34:46 > 0:34:48Captain Joe Root quickly followed without adding

0:34:48 > 0:34:48to his overnight score.

0:34:48 > 0:34:50And the wickets just kept tumbling.

0:34:50 > 0:34:52Jonny Bairstow was the last man to go.

0:34:52 > 0:34:54England, all out for 233.

0:34:54 > 0:34:57The Australians win the second test by 120 runs.

0:34:57 > 0:35:04The way we went about the second innings proved to everyone we are

0:35:04 > 0:35:10still massively in this series. It is as simple as that. Throughout the

0:35:10 > 0:35:17two games we have had periods where we outperformed Australia. Just not

0:35:17 > 0:35:22all of it. If we get that right and we can perform to our ability for

0:35:22 > 0:35:29longer periods of time, we will win games. It is as simple as that.

0:35:29 > 0:35:36This morning, before the game, I thought of the Kangert a few wickets

0:35:36 > 0:35:40that would be good. 180 runs was a lot of runs. It was pleasing Josh

0:35:40 > 0:35:46was able to come out and do what he did. His length was exceptional.

0:35:46 > 0:35:54Obviously, he got Joe Root. That put us in a good position.

0:35:54 > 0:35:57Chelsea had to settle for second place in their Champions League

0:35:57 > 0:35:59group, so face the risk of being drawn against one

0:35:59 > 0:36:01of the favourites in the knockout stage.

0:36:01 > 0:36:04They drew 1-1 with Spanish side Atletico Madrid.

0:36:04 > 0:36:05Chelsea fell behind but they equalised thanks

0:36:05 > 0:36:08to an own goal in the second half.

0:36:08 > 0:36:11It means they could now face Barcelona or Paris Sant Germain

0:36:11 > 0:36:16in the last 16.

0:36:16 > 0:36:19Manchester United finish top of Group A, but they had to come

0:36:19 > 0:36:21from behind to beat CSKA Moscow.

0:36:21 > 0:36:24They were 1-0 down at half-time but two quickfire goals

0:36:24 > 0:36:27from Romelu Lukaku and Marcus Rashford sealed a 2-1 win

0:36:27 > 0:36:28for Jose Mourinho's side.

0:36:28 > 0:36:31United reach the knockout stage for the first time in three years

0:36:31 > 0:36:39and equal a club record 40 matches unbeaten at Old Trafford.

0:36:39 > 0:36:41Celtic have qualified for the Europa League despite losing

0:36:41 > 0:36:431-0 to Belgian side Anderlecht.

0:36:43 > 0:36:46The Scottish champions knew they had to avoid defeat by three goals

0:36:46 > 0:36:53or more to seal third place in Group B.

0:36:53 > 0:36:56Mark Cavendish says he wants to race in next year's four-day Tour de

0:36:56 > 0:36:57Yorkshire.

0:36:57 > 0:37:00The event has been running since 2014 when the county hosted

0:37:00 > 0:37:03the Grand Depart for the Tour de France with great success.

0:37:03 > 0:37:06Next year's race in May will start in Beverley and will finish

0:37:06 > 0:37:12up in Leeds.

0:37:12 > 0:37:14It will also features a two-day women's race.

0:37:14 > 0:37:17Cavendish says he'll do all he can to be there.

0:37:17 > 0:37:22I definitely want to be here in Yorkshire. I am from here. I can see

0:37:22 > 0:37:31the legacy. It is wicked to see it and be part of it. What makes this

0:37:31 > 0:37:40race special is the fans. We saw that in 2014. It is a special place

0:37:40 > 0:37:44to ride in the UK, that is for sure.

0:37:44 > 0:37:47Ronnie O'Sullivan is the highest seed left in snooker's UK

0:37:47 > 0:37:49Championship going into the last 16.

0:37:49 > 0:37:52The world number four easily beat Michael White in the third round.

0:37:52 > 0:37:55O'Sullivan made a break of 132 on his way to winning by six

0:37:55 > 0:37:56frames to one.

0:37:56 > 0:38:00He's looking to equal Steve Davis' record of six UK titles this week.

0:38:00 > 0:38:03But he might not be around to break that record next year.

0:38:03 > 0:38:05Ronnie says he's got eyes on appearing on "I'm

0:38:05 > 0:38:07a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here."

0:38:07 > 0:38:13I used to think, I could not do that, I have to do snooker. But you

0:38:13 > 0:38:18get to a stage where you think this is painful, that is fine, it is a

0:38:18 > 0:38:22good laugh. And that series is great. I want to do as much as they

0:38:22 > 0:38:30can. But as long as I am in the top 64. It doesn't matter any more. Why

0:38:30 > 0:38:37not?

0:38:37 > 0:38:43Steve Davis, Jimmy White, they have been in it. He says everyone will

0:38:43 > 0:38:52think he is a gorilla with his top off. Thank you.

0:38:52 > 0:38:58She was the model at just 19 and who was at the centre of British

0:38:58 > 0:39:12politics. She has died at the age of 75. Yesterday it was announced

0:39:12 > 0:39:15Christine Keeler has died aged 75.

0:39:15 > 0:39:20It was the biggest scandal of the 1950s. Christine Keeler was at the

0:39:20 > 0:39:28centre of it. Model, party girl. The minister for war and Christine

0:39:28 > 0:39:32Keeler had an affair. When challenged, he lied about it to the

0:39:32 > 0:39:37House of Commons and was forced to resign. It did not help a KGB spy

0:39:37 > 0:39:41had also been seeing her. The old establishment never recovered from

0:39:41 > 0:39:47the shock. The affair spelt the end of the Prime Minister's government

0:39:47 > 0:39:56but also the end of respect, with sleaze swept under the carpet so

0:39:56 > 0:40:00blue it was one of the first occasions of politicians being held

0:40:00 > 0:40:05accountable.It actually had ramifications in political careers.

0:40:05 > 0:40:09Christine Keeler always said she was more prey than predator.I wished at

0:40:09 > 0:40:16that time I had been older so that I would have been able to answer or

0:40:16 > 0:40:23speak up for myself.She left school at 15. Her childhood home had been a

0:40:23 > 0:40:30pair of converted railway Carragher is. She lived with a notorious slum

0:40:30 > 0:40:35landlord later. Later, a West Indian boyfriend was charged with

0:40:35 > 0:40:41assaulting her and she lied in court. She was jailed for perjury.

0:40:41 > 0:40:46She lives here. She owns the shop around the corner.She went on to

0:40:46 > 0:40:54write three books. She was happy to help with the film's publicity as

0:40:54 > 0:41:03well.I never felt better. That is just some press which said that. I

0:41:03 > 0:41:08never felt bitter. Not at all. I am pleased the truth can come out now.

0:41:08 > 0:41:15But she was often broke. A victim, many thought, of establishment. Two

0:41:15 > 0:41:20marriages ended in divorce. Some said she earned her place in British

0:41:20 > 0:41:26history but at huge personal cost.

0:41:26 > 0:41:31We saw a little bit of the film Scandal. We will speak to the film

0:41:31 > 0:41:44producer behind that bit later. --A little bit later. Tens of thousands

0:41:44 > 0:41:48of people have been forced to flee their homes in California because of

0:41:48 > 0:41:54wildfires which have destroyed hundreds of buildings. Mandatory

0:41:54 > 0:41:57evacuations are taking place in the cities of Ventura and Santa Paula,

0:41:57 > 0:42:00north of Los Angeles, and more than a thousand firefighters are tackling

0:42:00 > 0:42:03the fires which continue to spread due to high winds.

0:42:03 > 0:42:06Our North America correspondent, James Cook, is in Los Angeles now.

0:42:06 > 0:42:06What's the latest?

0:42:06 > 0:42:10It has been a pretty incredible day, to be honest, in and around Los

0:42:10 > 0:42:24Angeles, because it is not just one major fire burning. Although the

0:42:24 > 0:42:27Ventura fire is the biggest threat, there are several major fires

0:42:27 > 0:42:30burning. Many, many people have been evacuated. The official number of

0:42:30 > 0:42:34homes destroyed in the first fire is to be 150. It is very, very clear

0:42:34 > 0:42:40that number will rise. Tens of thousands of people have fled. Just

0:42:40 > 0:42:48the night in the past few minutes, the breaking news is that the fire

0:42:48 > 0:42:51has reached the Pacific Ocean, leaping over the main coastal

0:42:51 > 0:42:56waterway, and is burning on the very edge of the Pacific. -- tonight,. It

0:42:56 > 0:43:00seems the water is the only thing that can stop this blaze. I was

0:43:00 > 0:43:06going to ask you about it. It seems extremely hard to put it out.They

0:43:06 > 0:43:32are trying. There is a problem. The wind. The wind you mentioned is not

0:43:32 > 0:43:49just that makes it for firefighters. For much of the day they have had

0:43:49 > 0:43:52trouble putting helicopters up to tackle the fire from above as well.

0:43:52 > 0:43:56It has hampered efforts.Has it been a bad year for these kinds of fires?

0:43:56 > 0:43:59It has been an exceptional year in terms of natural disasters for the

0:43:59 > 0:44:03US. Several major hurricanes in the north of California, devastating

0:44:03 > 0:44:07wildfires claiming far more in the way of victims than these so far.

0:44:07 > 0:44:12The amazing thing so far is there have been no reports of any deaths

0:44:12 > 0:44:16in the fires in Southern California. We have barely had a drop of rain

0:44:16 > 0:44:23for six months. Before that, five years of drought. Many scientists

0:44:23 > 0:44:25are looking at the increasing intensity of fires and the

0:44:25 > 0:44:30increasing intensity of hurricanes and are seen we need to have a think

0:44:30 > 0:44:36about what is happening to the weather on this planet and whether

0:44:36 > 0:44:40man-made climate change is behind it. -- saying.Very interesting and

0:44:40 > 0:44:45clearly terrifying. Thank you.

0:44:45 > 0:44:50Sometimes you hear funny things or in your ear in this programme, and

0:44:50 > 0:44:56one thing was Carol has a big octopus to show us -- things in your

0:44:56 > 0:45:03ear.No secrets on this programme! Good morning to you both! I'm in

0:45:03 > 0:45:09Hyde Park in Winter Wonderland and we are inside the magical ice

0:45:09 > 0:45:14kingdom where the temperature is -10, we have dropped 20 degrees from

0:45:14 > 0:45:20outside. You can see the dried octopus, his eye and this tentacles

0:45:20 > 0:45:29and he is made up of 36 tons of snow. You can see the other highs

0:45:29 > 0:45:37sculptures which are all handcarved. You can see here the mermaids, the

0:45:37 > 0:45:43seahorses, the Turtles, it is gorgeous. This is over 500 tons of

0:45:43 > 0:45:49real ice and snow throughout the magical ice kingdom. It is perishing

0:45:49 > 0:45:51in here, my hands are frozen!

0:45:53 > 0:45:56Outside it is a different story because it is really quite mild and

0:45:56 > 0:46:01it will be very mild for the time of year. What we have in the north is

0:46:01 > 0:46:07some rain and windy conditions and as we come further south, cloudy and

0:46:07 > 0:46:12also we're looking at a few brighter breaks here and there and very mild.

0:46:12 > 0:46:16This morning at 9am across Scotland, in the north and west, wet and we

0:46:16 > 0:46:20need but for the rest of the country, dry and cloudy with a few

0:46:20 > 0:46:23showers. North-west England seeing a few showers this morning and they

0:46:23 > 0:46:28will see some brightness. Through the Midlands, East Anglia and the

0:46:28 > 0:46:32south coast, a lot of cloud around and again we will see a few brighter

0:46:32 > 0:46:35breaks but we could see some showers, especially on higher

0:46:35 > 0:46:42ground. On the hills in south-west England, 12 implement at 9am and in

0:46:42 > 0:46:47Wales, a cloudy start with a few showers, mainly with height, we are

0:46:47 > 0:46:51looking at some brightness as well -- implement. A cloudy and wet start

0:46:51 > 0:46:58to the north-west. Windy as well. Through the day the wind will be a

0:46:58 > 0:47:03feature -- in Plymouth. The rain will slowly go south and we are

0:47:03 > 0:47:08looking at a lot of cloud with a few breaks further south and at times

0:47:08 > 0:47:11some light rain or drizzle but that will be the exception rather than

0:47:11 > 0:47:16the rule. Temperatures ten to 12, around the Moray Firth, the north

0:47:16 > 0:47:20coast of Northern Ireland, 13 as we go through the day. Through the

0:47:20 > 0:47:23evening and overnight the wind will strengthen, especially across the

0:47:23 > 0:47:28north of the country. Meanwhile, the rain goes south and the hide it it

0:47:28 > 0:47:33will turn cold but by the end of the night we will have gales in the west

0:47:33 > 0:47:41and Storm Caroline coming in across north-west Scotland. -- behind it.

0:47:41 > 0:47:45Storm Caroline will go east across Scotland and it will be extremely

0:47:45 > 0:47:50windy, gusts up to 80 mph and as far south as the Central Lowlands it

0:47:50 > 0:47:53will be windy with inland gales. With the snow at lower levels in

0:47:53 > 0:47:59Northern Scotland, blizzards. Meanwhile, we have the rain and

0:47:59 > 0:48:02strong winds careering quickly out of the south-east and behind it it

0:48:02 > 0:48:06will still be windy, a lot of dry weather and sunshine but feeling

0:48:06 > 0:48:10colder. First thing on Friday we will start with snow showers in

0:48:10 > 0:48:13Northern Ireland, southern Scotland, north-west England, around

0:48:13 > 0:48:18Manchester and some of those will blow inland as we go through the

0:48:18 > 0:48:22day. Outside of those, a lot of dry weather and some sunshine and it

0:48:22 > 0:48:26will feel cold. For Friday, a similar story, still windy, colder

0:48:26 > 0:48:30is anything and there will be the windchill to factor into that as

0:48:30 > 0:48:34well and still some snow showers as well. On the weekend, we're not done

0:48:34 > 0:48:39with the snow just yet, snow showers on Saturday and on Sunday, I want to

0:48:39 > 0:48:44highlight this, this could change, from the Midlands north there's the

0:48:44 > 0:48:48risk of snow. Also there's the risk of sleet. We could see someone snow

0:48:48 > 0:48:52in the highlands of the Pennines, but something to keep an eye on

0:48:52 > 0:48:56because the timing and position of this could change so if you're

0:48:56 > 0:48:58travelling then keep watching the weather forecast.

0:49:00 > 0:49:04I have already taken that warning. Thanks very much!-10, you really

0:49:04 > 0:49:10have to dress up for it, don't you? We're not hanging around in here! We

0:49:10 > 0:49:15are out in a second!I want to ask you some more questions!I'm only

0:49:15 > 0:49:22kidding!And they're gone! Running out!She was out of breath!Properly

0:49:22 > 0:49:30cold! That is the inside temperature.Much milder outside.

0:49:30 > 0:49:33Christmas can be a time to splash out but there are warnings

0:49:33 > 0:49:36from charities that people are facing high levels of debt

0:49:36 > 0:49:39and are more worried about finances this year than last.

0:49:39 > 0:49:40Steph is taking a look.

0:49:40 > 0:49:44There's a lot of pressure on families at this time of year to

0:49:44 > 0:49:48make it a great Christmas and that can cost a lot of money for some

0:49:48 > 0:49:50people. Some research out on that this morning.

0:49:50 > 0:49:52Two big pieces of research out

0:49:52 > 0:49:53from financial charities.

0:49:53 > 0:49:55The first is from The Money Advice Trust,

0:49:55 > 0:49:59who've found more people are worried about money this year than last.

0:49:59 > 0:50:02In fact, one in seven people will have money on their mind every

0:50:02 > 0:50:05day in the run up to the big day.

0:50:05 > 0:50:07Likewise, StepChange has been looking at how many people

0:50:07 > 0:50:10are using their overdraft on a regular basis to pay for lifes

0:50:10 > 0:50:21essentials, over 2 million people every single month.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23With me now is Laura Rodrigues from StepChange, who did this

0:50:23 > 0:50:24research for them.

0:50:24 > 0:50:28Why are people using their overdrafts? The vast majority are

0:50:28 > 0:50:32doing it for their everyday essentials, household bills, paying

0:50:32 > 0:50:37the rent, covering food budgets for the family.That is obviously not

0:50:37 > 0:50:42sustainable?There's a real concern about having to use credit for those

0:50:42 > 0:50:47everyday essentials, for those living costs.The people you're

0:50:47 > 0:50:51helping and the ones you're talking to, why are they getting into that

0:50:51 > 0:50:55trouble? What is making them have to pay bills with overdrafts rose

0:50:55 > 0:51:00yellow we see two things with our clients, it can be an income shock

0:51:00 > 0:51:15or a change in circumstances, which means they lose their job or a

0:51:15 > 0:51:17change in their circumstances.

0:51:18 > 0:51:23Are things getting worse?We are concerned more and more people are

0:51:23 > 0:51:27carrying, coming to charities like StepChange with debt problems this

0:51:27 > 0:51:32year -- coming to. Last year we saw 600,000 people and that was a rise

0:51:32 > 0:51:36from previous years.Is bad because people are more aware that they need

0:51:36 > 0:51:41to sort out their debt problems? -- is that. Or is that because there

0:51:41 > 0:51:45are more people with debt problems? We are seeing more and more people

0:51:45 > 0:51:49with debt problems and people are beaming squeezed and struggling with

0:51:49 > 0:51:53the cost of living, we have found 2 million people last year were in

0:51:53 > 0:52:00their overdraft the whole year. Constantly.In terms of what you're

0:52:00 > 0:52:05saying to clients, what is it you say, what advice do you give when

0:52:05 > 0:52:08they're struggling like this?The best advice when people are

0:52:08 > 0:52:12struggling is to turn to debt advice and we will look at their budget and

0:52:12 > 0:52:16see what they have coming in and out, seeing if they can balance that

0:52:16 > 0:52:21out and help them repay their debts if that's possible.You have

0:52:21 > 0:52:24specific requirements around overdrafts and you think the

0:52:24 > 0:52:27government should be doing and banks should be thinking about?

0:52:27 > 0:52:32There's two main issues, there's people being stuck in a cycle of

0:52:32 > 0:52:35overdraft borrowing over a long period of time. I think the banks

0:52:35 > 0:52:41really need to work with the FCA to see where they are struggling and

0:52:41 > 0:52:44give them support to get out of that. People are being hit regularly

0:52:44 > 0:52:50by very high on arranged overdraft charges when they go over their

0:52:50 > 0:52:54limit and when this happens it puts them further into debt so what we

0:52:54 > 0:52:59want the banks to do, one major bank has done so, is get rid of these an

0:52:59 > 0:53:02arranged overdraft charges and scrap them and make their charges more

0:53:02 > 0:53:09transparent.Some people would say if you can pay back the credit then

0:53:09 > 0:53:12sometimes debt can be a good thing if it gets you through a certain

0:53:12 > 0:53:17period of time and you make the payments rose yellow credit is a

0:53:17 > 0:53:22useful tool for people, it helps them with their incomes and with

0:53:22 > 0:53:32larger purchases.But the problem is when it isn't affordable. Clients

0:53:32 > 0:53:38told us about money going into their account, reducing the overdraft,

0:53:38 > 0:53:42then they go over the overdraft and the cycle repeats and they get

0:53:42 > 0:53:46trapped in that cycle.Thanks for your time this morning, really

0:53:46 > 0:53:51interesting. A tough time for people if they haven't got their money.

0:53:51 > 0:53:56Lots of people are getting in touch with you and us this morning about

0:53:56 > 0:54:01planning for Christmas.David says I save £20 a week for Christmas. £1040

0:54:01 > 0:54:06and. I will be withdrawing it this weekend and when it's gone, it is

0:54:06 > 0:54:12gone -- £1040. I wouldn't have Christmas if I didn't do that. A

0:54:12 > 0:54:16good way of planning, putting away a certain amount every week.Something

0:54:16 > 0:54:25you have been looking at. This isn't really saving?These people have

0:54:25 > 0:54:29been saving for Christmas. Both of us are big fans of driving around

0:54:29 > 0:54:32and looking at random houses with Christmas lights.There's one in

0:54:32 > 0:54:35Sheffield where they outdo themselves every year and I take the

0:54:35 > 0:54:40kids there every year.This is the inside of the Guardian and they are

0:54:40 > 0:54:44nationwide, but this is one of the most original ones, maybe they have

0:54:44 > 0:54:48done it before, a pub in London, 20,000 lights in and around the pub

0:54:48 > 0:54:53and 90 Christmas trees, many of which are outside. I love that!I'm

0:54:53 > 0:54:58turning into my dad, I'm thinking when I look at that, what about the

0:54:58 > 0:55:03electricity bill! But you think it's worth it?I do. You can't be cross

0:55:03 > 0:55:10about that.There's one other story wanted to mention, talking about

0:55:10 > 0:55:13Christmas, snowflakes, snowflake is a label used disparagingly, commonly

0:55:13 > 0:55:20to use .Mac referred to young people who are of the centres of --

0:55:20 > 0:55:29commonly referred to -- sensitive. It is now claimed that it is

0:55:29 > 0:55:33damaging people's mental health. Double sensitivity on that issue.

0:55:33 > 0:55:38There's nothing wrong with being sensitive!We were talking about the

0:55:38 > 0:55:41serious issue of anxiety yesterday so there is a serious issue in there

0:55:41 > 0:55:45somewhere but I am sure someone will Paul score on that story.Later one

0:55:45 > 0:55:58of my favourite people, Jo Wiley is going to be here. She will be

0:55:58 > 0:56:02talking about BBC Introducing, we will reveal the person who has been

0:56:02 > 0:56:07chosen. She will be talking about the history of it and so many people

0:56:07 > 0:56:11who are now household names, including you, Dan.I am a little

0:56:11 > 0:56:16heartbroken if I am honest! We will talk to the winner of the Turner

0:56:16 > 0:56:21prize, which was announced last night. One of my favourite people!

0:56:21 > 0:56:23You're watching Breakfast from BBC News.

0:56:23 > 0:56:25Still to come this morning:

0:56:25 > 0:56:27Does a bad winter flu season

0:56:27 > 0:56:29in Australia mean we'll suffer the same fate here?

0:56:29 > 0:56:32We'll find out why researchers working on a new universal vaccine

0:56:32 > 0:56:35in the UK hope it could be a game changer.

0:56:35 > 0:56:40Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.

1:00:00 > 1:00:02Now it's back to Dan and Louise.

1:00:02 > 1:00:02Bye bye.

1:00:41 > 1:00:44Hello. Good morning.

1:00:44 > 1:00:46This is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

1:00:46 > 1:00:50Two men are due in court accused of a plot to kill the Prime

1:00:50 > 1:00:51Minister.

1:00:51 > 1:00:54The alleged plan was to target Theresa May while she was at

1:00:54 > 1:00:57Downing Street, bombing the security gates before launching a knife

1:00:57 > 1:01:08attack in the confusion that would follow.

1:01:08 > 1:01:09Good morning.

1:01:09 > 1:01:14It's Wednesday the sixth of December.

1:01:14 > 1:01:15Thank you for being with us.

1:01:15 > 1:01:16Also this morning:

1:01:16 > 1:01:19President Trump breaks with decades of American policy on Israel.

1:01:19 > 1:01:21The White House says he will formally recognise Jerusalem

1:01:21 > 1:01:26as its capital, and will move the US embassy there from Tel Aviv.

1:01:26 > 1:01:28Wildfires tear through Southern California as thousands

1:01:28 > 1:01:36of people are forced to flee from their homes.

1:01:36 > 1:01:39Christine Keeler, the former model at the centre of the Profumo

1:01:39 > 1:01:41scandal, has died at the age of 75.

1:01:41 > 1:01:46We'll look back at her life.

1:01:46 > 1:01:47Good morning.

1:01:47 > 1:01:49Today, we've got the boss of the takeaway delivery firm,

1:01:49 > 1:01:50Deliveroo, in the studio.

1:01:50 > 1:01:53It's been a business that's been criticised for the lack

1:01:53 > 1:01:55of recognition it gives it's riders.

1:01:55 > 1:01:58I'll be looking at why.

1:01:58 > 1:02:00In sport, England go two down in the Ashes.

1:02:00 > 1:02:04Their batsmen are blown away by Australia in less than two hours

1:02:04 > 1:02:20on the final day in Adelaide.

1:02:20 > 1:02:25Sorry about the cricket news. The weather. It is -10 inside Hyde Park,

1:02:25 > 1:02:35and plus ten outside. It will be mild today. Wet and windy in the

1:02:35 > 1:02:39north, though. I will have more info in minutes. OK, thank you. It is

1:02:39 > 1:02:43very loud in there.

1:02:43 > 1:02:43Good morning.

1:02:43 > 1:02:44First, our main story:

1:02:44 > 1:02:48Two men are due to appear in court today, accused of a plot to kill

1:02:48 > 1:02:49the Prime Minister.

1:02:49 > 1:02:50Both suspects were detained last month.

1:02:55 > 1:03:04It is on the front pages. That is the front page of the Daily Mirror

1:03:04 > 1:03:09this morning. A number of the papers have gone with that story. We will

1:03:09 > 1:03:18bring you more details on that through the morning.

1:03:18 > 1:03:21The White House says President Trump is to break with decades of American

1:03:21 > 1:03:24policy on Israel and is to recognise Jerusalem as the capital

1:03:24 > 1:03:25of Israel.

1:03:25 > 1:03:27He's expected to direct the State Department to begin

1:03:27 > 1:03:30the process of moving the US embassy there from Tel Aviv,

1:03:30 > 1:03:32a process which may take several years.

1:03:32 > 1:03:35But Arab leaders earlier warned against moving the embassy,

1:03:35 > 1:03:37saying it would be "a flagrant provocation to Muslims."

1:03:37 > 1:03:43Our North America correspondent, Peter Bowes, reports.

1:03:43 > 1:03:46Donald Trump is venturing into uncharted territory.

1:03:46 > 1:03:48The President will recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel,

1:03:48 > 1:03:51making the United States the first country to do

1:03:51 > 1:04:00so since the foundation of the state in 1948.

1:04:00 > 1:04:03He has already indicated he intends to move the American embassy

1:04:03 > 1:04:06to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, and he has informed regional leaders

1:04:06 > 1:04:07of his plans.

1:04:07 > 1:04:08The reaction has been heated.

1:04:08 > 1:04:10Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has warned of dangerous consequences

1:04:10 > 1:04:13for the peace, security and stability of the region

1:04:13 > 1:04:14and of the world.

1:04:14 > 1:04:16Jordan's King Abdullah said the decision would undermine efforts

1:04:16 > 1:04:19to renew the peace process and provoke Muslims.

1:04:19 > 1:04:21Saudi Arabia's King Salman told Mr Trump the relocation

1:04:21 > 1:04:24of the embassy or the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital

1:04:24 > 1:04:26would constitute a flagrant provocation of Muslims

1:04:26 > 1:04:27all over the world.

1:04:27 > 1:04:30The status of Jerusalem goes to the heart of Israel's conflict

1:04:30 > 1:04:31with the Palestinians.

1:04:31 > 1:04:33Political observers say the President is treading a fine

1:04:33 > 1:04:35line between acknowledging a historic reality and alienating

1:04:35 > 1:04:36Palestinians.

1:04:36 > 1:04:38Israel's intelligence minister says the country is preparing for every

1:04:38 > 1:04:40option, including an outbreak of violence.

1:04:40 > 1:04:43US citizens have been warned by the State Department to ignore

1:04:43 > 1:05:05areas with crowds.

1:05:05 > 1:05:08There's increasing pressure on the government to get Brexit

1:05:08 > 1:05:10negotiations back on track after an intervention

1:05:10 > 1:05:12by Northern Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party stalled

1:05:12 > 1:05:13talks in Brussels.

1:05:13 > 1:05:15The Irish border may be the key sticking point,

1:05:15 > 1:05:17but divisions in the Conservative Party are further complicating

1:05:17 > 1:05:20matters for the Prime Minister.

1:05:20 > 1:05:22Our political correspondent, Leila Nathoo, is in Westminster this

1:05:22 > 1:05:25morning.

1:05:25 > 1:05:31It seems whenever we talk to you on this issue, the question seems to be

1:05:31 > 1:05:35there are some important days ahead for the Prime Minister.This week

1:05:35 > 1:05:40was supposed to be... We talk about important moments in the Brexit

1:05:40 > 1:05:45negotiations. Earlier this week, on Monday, the big lunch in Brussels

1:05:45 > 1:05:49was supposed to be a big turning point when Theresa May went to

1:05:49 > 1:05:53Brussels to try to nail down the divorce issue is to try to get

1:05:53 > 1:05:59agreement that talks could proceed. She came back empty-handed because,

1:05:59 > 1:06:09as you say, the intervention by the Democratic Unionists with the thorny

1:06:09 > 1:06:13issue of the Irish border. It seems communications breakdown between the

1:06:13 > 1:06:17government and the DUP. They were shocked to see what Theresa May

1:06:17 > 1:06:22wanted on the table. They are talking about the issue of closely

1:06:22 > 1:06:29aligned relations with Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

1:06:29 > 1:06:32The DUP said it was unacceptable Northern Ireland is any different

1:06:32 > 1:06:36from the rest of the UK after Brexit and pulled the plug once they got

1:06:36 > 1:06:42wind of what was on offer. Now, what is going on is that Theresa May has

1:06:42 > 1:06:46come back from Brussels and Brussels has made it clear the ball is now in

1:06:46 > 1:06:51our court to sort it out as a domestic issue. She will try to

1:06:51 > 1:06:55convince the DNP over the next few days in order to get back to

1:06:55 > 1:07:01Brussels in time for the crucial EU summit next week. -- DUP. Shinnie to

1:07:01 > 1:07:06get ahead of that to convince EU leaders enough has been done on the

1:07:06 > 1:07:14divorce issue is. -- She needs. Then they can decide to move talks on to

1:07:14 > 1:07:18trade. There will be a lot of wrangling going on in the next few

1:07:18 > 1:07:21days. Theresa May is facing an extraordinarily difficult task to

1:07:21 > 1:07:26try to please people on all sides, including those in her own party now

1:07:26 > 1:07:33expressing some nervousness that she has compromised too far, with some

1:07:33 > 1:07:37giving the suggestion they are not prepared to see her change her

1:07:37 > 1:07:39position on what Britain's relationship with the EU will look

1:07:39 > 1:07:46like after Brexit. I think where we are now is again a crucial couple of

1:07:46 > 1:07:51days for Theresa May to get the DUP back on side and take something to

1:07:51 > 1:07:57Brussels to try to satisfy everyone. Thank you very much. Good to talk to

1:07:57 > 1:08:06you.

1:08:06 > 1:08:08Wildfires tear through Southern California as thousands

1:08:08 > 1:08:12of people are forced to flee from their homes.

1:08:12 > 1:08:19California has been hit hard by wildfires in recent months. 40 were

1:08:19 > 1:08:26killed in northern California's wine region in October.

1:08:26 > 1:08:29Russia has been banned from competing at next year's winter

1:08:29 > 1:08:31Olympics in South Korea following an investigation

1:08:31 > 1:08:32into state-sponsored doping at the Sochi Games four years ago.

1:08:32 > 1:08:34The International Olympic Committee issued the punishment yesterday,

1:08:34 > 1:08:38but said Russian athletes who can prove they are clean will be allowed

1:08:38 > 1:08:39to compete, under a neutral flag.

1:08:39 > 1:08:42We can talk now to our Moscow correspondent Steve Rosenberg

1:08:42 > 1:08:46for the latest.

1:08:46 > 1:08:52Presumably, they are not used in Russia.Not at all. There is a sense

1:08:52 > 1:08:56of deep disappointment mixed with outrage and a sense of injustice.

1:08:56 > 1:09:01For example, the Deputy Speaker of the Russian parliament said this was

1:09:01 > 1:09:07a humiliation to Russia. A leading figure skater trainer said they

1:09:07 > 1:09:14murdered Russian sport. They said it was a punch in the stomach. The

1:09:14 > 1:09:18Russian government paper today is not holding back. It says the IOC

1:09:18 > 1:09:28with its monstrous decision has speak in our face. -- spit. Despite

1:09:28 > 1:09:36all of the evidence from the IOC and the multiple reports and testimonies

1:09:36 > 1:09:42from whistleblowers are very still unwillingness and reluctance in

1:09:42 > 1:09:46Russia to admit they are at fault. Thank you very much. Live from

1:09:46 > 1:09:50Moscow.

1:09:50 > 1:09:53Christine Keeler, the model at the centre of the Profumo affair

1:09:53 > 1:09:56of the 1960s, has died at the age of 75.

1:09:56 > 1:09:58She became famous after it emerged she'd had an affair

1:09:58 > 1:10:01with both the Conservative minister John Profumo and with a Russian

1:10:01 > 1:10:04diplomat, at the height of the Cold War.

1:10:04 > 1:10:06The scandal was considered by many to be the downfall

1:10:06 > 1:10:09of the Macmillan government.

1:10:09 > 1:10:14We will be talking about her life later on in the programme. We will

1:10:14 > 1:10:19be talking to the producer of the movie Scandal about her life.

1:10:19 > 1:10:22We're returning to our top story, and details of an alleged terror

1:10:22 > 1:10:25plot targeting Theresa May has made it onto many of the front

1:10:25 > 1:10:26pages this morning.

1:10:26 > 1:10:27Let's take a look.

1:10:27 > 1:10:29The Times goes with, Security Services thwart Islamist

1:10:29 > 1:10:37plot to kill Prime Minister.

1:10:37 > 1:10:38According to the Telegraph,

1:10:38 > 1:10:41two men have been charged with terror offences and are due

1:10:41 > 1:10:43to appear at Westminister magistrates court.

1:10:43 > 1:10:45The Daily Mirror describes how two suspects were arrested

1:10:45 > 1:10:48during raids in London and Birmingham last week.

1:10:48 > 1:10:50And there's more detail in the Sun, which reports that one

1:10:50 > 1:10:53of the men was allegedly carrying two improvised explosive devices

1:10:53 > 1:10:54when he was stopped.

1:10:54 > 1:10:56Yesterday, Andrew Parker, the head of MI5, briefed

1:10:56 > 1:11:00the Prime Minister and the cabinet about nine alleged terror plots that

1:11:00 > 1:11:04have been foiled since March this year.

1:11:04 > 1:11:06Let's speak to Lord Carlile, the former independent reviewer

1:11:06 > 1:11:11of terrorism legislation who's in London this morning.

1:11:11 > 1:11:15Thank you very much for joining us on the programme today. We are

1:11:15 > 1:11:19hearing about this alleged plot to kill Theresa May this morning.

1:11:19 > 1:11:28People are due in court. Proceedings ongoing. It highlights the scale of

1:11:28 > 1:11:32the issue police are facing in this country at the moment.It certainly

1:11:32 > 1:11:36does. Obviously, we cannot talk about the case because it girl has

1:11:36 > 1:11:42to go through legal processes, but it is different to the one David

1:11:42 > 1:11:46Anderson was considering in his report yesterday. -- it still. That

1:11:46 > 1:11:53kind of plot tends to target soft targets. I am sorry about the

1:11:53 > 1:11:58background noise. Soft targets like the Manchester Arena and Borough

1:11:58 > 1:12:02Market. There is a real concern that victims should be protected at those

1:12:02 > 1:12:08soft targets. David Anderson's report in the review of security

1:12:08 > 1:12:14behind it are very important steps in the protection of victims.The

1:12:14 > 1:12:18Home Secretary, Amber Rudd, talked about the nine terror attacks

1:12:18 > 1:12:21prevented in the UK since the Westminster attack back in March. Do

1:12:21 > 1:12:26you think the government is doing enough? Are they doing all they can

1:12:26 > 1:12:30in a situation where it is almost impossible to stop all of these

1:12:30 > 1:12:36plots?Well, it is certainly true that it is going to be impossible to

1:12:36 > 1:12:41stop every plot. That is just reality. But behind David Anderson's

1:12:41 > 1:12:45report, there is the review which reduced 126 recommendations of how

1:12:45 > 1:12:51we can improve protecting the public from outrageous terrorist attacks. I

1:12:51 > 1:12:55hope that all of those recommendations will be put into

1:12:55 > 1:13:02effect soon. They include, very importantly, better methodology for

1:13:02 > 1:13:07dealing with electronically obtained information, better co-operation

1:13:07 > 1:13:12between counter-terrorism police and community police officers, and also,

1:13:12 > 1:13:21that the procedures and reports. The Manchester Arena perpetrator entered

1:13:21 > 1:13:27the country through a port and was not picked up despite being one

1:13:27 > 1:13:32important databases. We don't want that to happen again and hope the

1:13:32 > 1:13:35measures recommended will give a reasonable guarantee that it will

1:13:35 > 1:13:40not happen again, as good a guarantee as one could have in these

1:13:40 > 1:13:46difficult circumstances. Let's not forget, though, that the police and

1:13:46 > 1:13:52counterterrorism authorities are now predicting one plot per month and

1:13:52 > 1:13:58are apprehending them, which is good.The Manchester Arena bombing,

1:13:58 > 1:14:02to pick up some detail, we will speak to someone who was there that

1:14:02 > 1:14:09night hosted the bomber in question. It seems it could have been

1:14:09 > 1:14:16prevented. -- close to the bomber. David Anderson said it could

1:14:16 > 1:14:20possibly have been prevented, he did not say should have been prevented.

1:14:20 > 1:14:23Yes, it could possibly have been prevented if everything had fallen

1:14:23 > 1:14:30to place. It would have been prevented. That rarely happens. The

1:14:30 > 1:14:35recommendations made in the report behind David Anderson's review make

1:14:35 > 1:14:40it as certain as we ever can be that such terrorists will be picked up

1:14:40 > 1:14:44before they carry out their activities, but there are no

1:14:44 > 1:14:49guarantees.Many people will be turning on their television this

1:14:49 > 1:14:53morning and learning about this terror plot on the front page of the

1:14:53 > 1:14:57paper is, the attempt to kill the Prime Minister this morning. --

1:14:57 > 1:15:05papers. Do you have any words of reassurance given what you have said

1:15:05 > 1:15:08about the Manchester Arena bombing and how police apprehend these

1:15:08 > 1:15:12people? Do we have the right level of counterterrorism at the moment?

1:15:12 > 1:15:19Derby in a good place? -- are we in a good place?My words of

1:15:19 > 1:15:23reassurance are strong compared to the rest of the world. We have the

1:15:23 > 1:15:25best counterterrorism policing and certainly the best security services

1:15:25 > 1:15:31which are the envy of the world. We can always do better. The whole

1:15:31 > 1:15:37point of asking David Anderson to produce his review was to make sure

1:15:37 > 1:15:41that an independent person with very good judgement looked at the new

1:15:41 > 1:15:44decisions which were being made by the authorities in their effort to

1:15:44 > 1:15:50minimise the risk of terrorism to members of the public. I think the

1:15:50 > 1:15:55public can be reassured we are doing at least as well as anywhere in the

1:15:55 > 1:15:57world, probably better

1:15:57 > 1:16:01at least as well as anywhere in the world, probably better.

1:16:01 > 1:16:05Thank you very much. The pair in connection with that plot were

1:16:05 > 1:16:09arrested on the 28th of November by officers from the net

1:16:09 > 1:16:13counterterrorism team and they will be in court later today. -- met.

1:16:13 > 1:16:16Staying with the Manchester Arena bombing, we're joined in the studio

1:16:16 > 1:16:19by Robby Potter who was injured in the terror attack.

1:16:19 > 1:16:23I want to ask first of all, I know you were badly injured in the

1:16:23 > 1:16:26attack, how are you?Still recovering, but still fighting fit,

1:16:26 > 1:16:31hopefully fighting fit soon.They called you a miracle.It was.Give

1:16:31 > 1:16:37us a sense of why.Besides the kneecaps getting fractured and

1:16:37 > 1:16:42losing nerves in my foot, I had something stuck in my heart and a

1:16:42 > 1:16:46collapsed lung and shrapnel through my neck and shoulders.Physically

1:16:46 > 1:16:51you're getting better but it's a long road back.A long way to go.

1:16:51 > 1:16:55Mentally are you able to process what took place that night?Year.

1:16:55 > 1:17:01There's a flu few flashbacks, they hurt, especially this coming up now

1:17:01 > 1:17:11-- yeah -- few flashbacks.Does that get easier with time?Yes and no,

1:17:11 > 1:17:15sometimes it is bad.Your girlfriend was badly injured as well, how is

1:17:15 > 1:17:21she?She got out of hospital two weeks ago but she is in a wheelchair

1:17:21 > 1:17:25friendly house right now because she got more badly hurt.We are hearing

1:17:25 > 1:17:30the Manchester Arena bomber had been a so-called subject of interest and

1:17:30 > 1:17:34some opportunities to stop him were missed. When you hear that, what are

1:17:34 > 1:17:38your thoughts?It's annoying but it seems like we're blaming the wrong

1:17:38 > 1:17:42people. This stops with the government, they could have stopped

1:17:42 > 1:17:47this, they could stop terrorism in this country. If we stop political

1:17:47 > 1:17:51correctness and give the powers that be, like the gentleman said, we've

1:17:51 > 1:17:55got the best forces in the world, the police have been brilliant with

1:17:55 > 1:18:00me, fantastic, especially terrorism police. Fantastic. They've told me

1:18:00 > 1:18:05everything I'm allowed to know but someone has to get reported for

1:18:05 > 1:18:09visiting someone on a website. We should report it straightaway, not

1:18:09 > 1:18:14when they think it is OK. That night, pull them in.Thanks for your

1:18:14 > 1:18:18time and best of luck to you and your girlfriend with your recovery.

1:18:18 > 1:18:26Thanks for coming.No worries, thank you.Thanks very much.

1:18:26 > 1:18:28Carol has the weather for us now.

1:18:28 > 1:18:34It's in Hyde Park but it is colder inside and outside?-- she's.

1:18:35 > 1:18:42It is. Good morning. It is -10 in here and inside the magical eyes

1:18:42 > 1:18:46kingdom at Winter Wonderland it is very cold and very magical. A deep

1:18:46 > 1:18:52sea adventure theme -- magical eyes kingdom. It has lots of different

1:18:52 > 1:19:00fish and shells. -- ice. You can see the maritime sculptures, culminating

1:19:00 > 1:19:05over here in an octopus. It's a giant octopus, it is made of 36 tons

1:19:05 > 1:19:11of snow and in fact they used over 500 tons of real eyes and snow to

1:19:11 > 1:19:16put together the whole of this magical eyes kingdom. -- ice and

1:19:16 > 1:19:21snow. If you come and see it, wrap up warmly because it is perishing.

1:19:21 > 1:19:26Outside it is quite a different story because outside it is warm.

1:19:26 > 1:19:31Mild for the time of year and very mild later in the day for some

1:19:31 > 1:19:35parts, especially Northern Ireland and Scotland. Some rain in the

1:19:35 > 1:19:39forecast and wind, especially across Scotland and some rain making good

1:19:39 > 1:19:43advances in woods from the north-west. The rest of Scotland,

1:19:43 > 1:19:46largely dry but fairly cloudy. For Northern England, the north-west

1:19:46 > 1:19:49seeing one or two showers this morning and the north-east seeing

1:19:49 > 1:19:55some breaks. Further south into the Midlands, East Anglia, Essex, Kent,

1:19:55 > 1:19:59southern counties, by 9am, still Jo cloudy, some brighter breaks, some

1:19:59 > 1:20:06showers -- till cloudy. In the south-west of England there will be

1:20:06 > 1:20:10some and some in Wales -- still cloudy. Equally there will be some

1:20:10 > 1:20:13sunshine around. In Northern Ireland, similar to Scotland in the

1:20:13 > 1:20:19sense that you will have a wet day and also a windy one. As we go

1:20:19 > 1:20:22through the course of the day the rain across the north-west will

1:20:22 > 1:20:27slowly moved south-east. It will be windy wherever you are today but

1:20:27 > 1:20:30particularly across the north and we will see one or two brighter breaks

1:20:30 > 1:20:33coming through the cloud further south. Temperatures today in the

1:20:33 > 1:20:39range of ten to 12, but in the north coast of Northern Ireland, the Moray

1:20:39 > 1:20:43Firth, could see 13, above average for this stage in December. Through

1:20:43 > 1:20:46the evening and overnight the wind will continue to strengthen. In

1:20:46 > 1:20:50fact, by the end of the night we'll have gales in the west, rain

1:20:50 > 1:20:54careering south-east and by the end of the night we will have Storm

1:20:54 > 1:20:58Caroline coming in across north-west Scotland, so storm force winds here.

1:20:58 > 1:21:03As well as that we'll also have snow showers coming in, even to lower

1:21:03 > 1:21:07levels across north-west Scotland by the end of the night. Tomorrow,

1:21:07 > 1:21:11Storm Caroline will move east across the north of Scotland. The strongest

1:21:11 > 1:21:15winds always in the far north but there will be strong winds as far

1:21:15 > 1:21:18south as the Central Lowlands for the rush-hour. Couple that with snow

1:21:18 > 1:21:22down to low levels in the north of Scotland and we're looking at

1:21:22 > 1:21:26blizzards. The rain will continue to cross England and Wales, clearing

1:21:26 > 1:21:31the south-east quickly, driven on by strong winds. Behind it, brighter

1:21:31 > 1:21:35conditions with showers. Feeling colder with large waves down the

1:21:35 > 1:21:40east coast. For Friday we'll start off in the morning with snow showers

1:21:40 > 1:21:43in parts of Scotland, Northern Ireland, north-west England,

1:21:43 > 1:21:47potentially around Manchester and also not Wales. Some of those will

1:21:47 > 1:21:52go inland and will carry on through the day, but equally a bit of dry

1:21:52 > 1:21:56weather and sunshine but not feeling warm -- north Wales. As we head into

1:21:56 > 1:22:01the weekend, we're not done with the snow showers yet, and on Sunday

1:22:01 > 1:22:05there's the potential for some significant snow. We're looking at

1:22:05 > 1:22:09rain, sleet and snow coming in from the west and the areas most likely

1:22:09 > 1:22:13to see it are across the Midlands and anywhere north of that. The

1:22:13 > 1:22:16significance snow will be with height in the Pennines example but

1:22:16 > 1:22:21we could see some at low levels -- significant. It could change but

1:22:21 > 1:22:25it's worth knowing about if you have travel plans, keep watching the

1:22:25 > 1:22:26weather forecast.

1:22:28 > 1:22:32Thanks very much. It looks so beautiful and calm. I know it is

1:22:32 > 1:22:40freezing but thank you!LAUGHTER that is the face she wanted to do!I

1:22:40 > 1:22:45hope you saw that at home! Go and have another tea!Go outside and get

1:22:45 > 1:22:51warm, Carol! And she is off again!

1:22:51 > 1:22:54Flu season is well under way and doctors are urging vulnerable

1:22:54 > 1:22:57people to have their vaccine because this year it could be more

1:22:57 > 1:22:58important than ever.

1:22:58 > 1:23:01Yes, Australia has just been through a particularly bad flu

1:23:01 > 1:23:04period with a 50% rise in cases, and some scientists are warning that

1:23:04 > 1:23:06could mean a tough season for us too.

1:23:06 > 1:23:09In a moment, John Maguire reports on the search

1:23:09 > 1:23:11for a new vaccine here, but first our Sydney correspondent

1:23:11 > 1:23:16Hywel Griffiths reports from Australia.

1:23:16 > 1:23:20Mark knows first-hand just how hard the flu virus hit Australia this

1:23:20 > 1:23:27year. As does his wife Eve and therefore children, Megan, Zach,

1:23:27 > 1:23:36Amelia and Matilda. Every single one of them became ill. It was me and

1:23:36 > 1:23:41then Zach and then dad and mum and then Megan.It really knocked us

1:23:41 > 1:23:45about, we were literally in bed for two or three days, very difficult if

1:23:45 > 1:23:49you've got kids because you know what it's like, they pick it up at

1:23:49 > 1:23:55preschool and bring it home.They weren't alone. 2017 saw a 50% rise

1:23:55 > 1:23:59in flu cases across Australia. It wasn't a pandemic but there was an

1:23:59 > 1:24:05increase in deaths, mostly among the elderly. The flu season is now over

1:24:05 > 1:24:08and Australia is heading towards its summer but doctors were left

1:24:08 > 1:24:11wondering why it was so bad and what, if anything, it means for

1:24:11 > 1:24:15people living in the northern hemisphere. This professor has been

1:24:15 > 1:24:19tracking the clinical data for Australia. One of the key concerns

1:24:19 > 1:24:24here is that this year's vaccine did not work well. The vaccine we had

1:24:24 > 1:24:31this year was poor with vulnerable people so in healthy people it was

1:24:31 > 1:24:3625%, 30%, 40% effective but in elderly people it worked quite

1:24:36 > 1:24:38poorly. As it arrives in the UK the flu

1:24:38 > 1:24:42virus would necessarily have the same impact, it's constantly

1:24:42 > 1:24:46changing and mutating, but families are being warned it could be a tough

1:24:46 > 1:24:49winter in the northern hemisphere. John Maguire takes up the story.

1:24:49 > 1:24:50Here

1:24:51 > 1:24:57researchers are working on a new universal vaccine, one that doesn't

1:24:57 > 1:25:01have to be remade every winter. It's a game changer and they've just

1:25:01 > 1:25:09started human trials. The study is now full this year. Scientists are

1:25:09 > 1:25:13recruiting 2000 over 65-year-olds and will monitor them for two years.

1:25:13 > 1:25:18It's the first big trial of its kind. All are having their flu jab

1:25:18 > 1:25:22as normal but some are receiving the new vaccine.We have to keep

1:25:22 > 1:25:25changing what's in the flu vaccine because the virus keeps mutating

1:25:25 > 1:25:29every year and the vaccine has to keep changing to keep up with it.

1:25:29 > 1:25:33But if we can get an immune response to work against other parts of the

1:25:33 > 1:25:38flu virus, the parts that don't change, we could have a vaccine that

1:25:38 > 1:25:41is universal and works against all influenza strains and it may last

1:25:41 > 1:25:45longer than one year.Experts are divided over whether or not a bad

1:25:45 > 1:25:49winter flu season in Australia means the same here. Vaccine is normally

1:25:49 > 1:25:53work around half the time. But doctors say at the moment it's the

1:25:53 > 1:25:58best protection we have.It's a case of protecting society and although

1:25:58 > 1:26:02someone might think they are physically very strong and can fight

1:26:02 > 1:26:05something off, it's going to be their neighbour or someone at work

1:26:05 > 1:26:09who's got some disability, lung disease, and we want to protect them

1:26:09 > 1:26:14as well.And as that vaccination continues at a pace, so far this

1:26:14 > 1:26:20season flu numbers have been low. But, as Australia experienced, flu

1:26:20 > 1:26:24outbreaks can quickly become very serious and very difficult to fight.

1:26:24 > 1:26:29John Maguire, BBC News, Oxford.

1:26:29 > 1:26:35A timely report, isn't it? We were discussing that this week?I was

1:26:35 > 1:26:40presenting Breakfast on Christmas Day and I woke up at 3:30am with flu

1:26:40 > 1:26:47and there's nothing you can do.You were OK?I was OK but a very high

1:26:47 > 1:26:50temperatures and you can't exactly call you on Christmas Day.You

1:26:50 > 1:26:58definitely can't?! Who are you going to call?Ghostbusters!People

1:26:58 > 1:27:04were very sympathetic but there's nothing else you can do. Who else is

1:27:04 > 1:27:08going to turn up at 3:30 a.m.? That's what I like about you,

1:27:08 > 1:27:13Louise, you take one for the nation even on Christmas Day!There's no

1:27:13 > 1:30:34other option! Sorry about that

1:30:34 > 1:30:36Now it's back to Dan and Louise.

1:30:36 > 1:30:37Bye bye.

1:30:46 > 1:30:47Hello.

1:30:47 > 1:30:48Welcome back.

1:30:48 > 1:30:52This is Breakfast with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

1:30:52 > 1:30:55Two men have been charged by police in connection with an alleged plot

1:30:55 > 1:30:57to kill the Prime Minister.

1:30:57 > 1:30:59Both suspects were detained last month and have been charged

1:30:59 > 1:31:04with terrorism offences.

1:31:04 > 1:31:08The details of their plans were made public after the head of MI5 briefed

1:31:08 > 1:31:11the government yesterday about nine alleged terror plots that have been

1:31:11 > 1:31:16foiled since March this year.

1:31:16 > 1:31:2522 plots of tinfoil tinselly rig the. -- plots have been foiled since

1:31:25 > 1:31:33Lee Rigby. Certainly in this report by David Anderson, we are seeing

1:31:33 > 1:31:37some of the sophistication behind the organisation and the planning of

1:31:37 > 1:31:48these plots which again show what the services are up against.

1:31:48 > 1:31:50The White House says President Trump is to recognise Jerusalem

1:31:50 > 1:31:53as the capital of Israel and will direct the State Department

1:31:53 > 1:31:57to begin the process of moving the US Embassy there from Tel Aviv.

1:31:57 > 1:31:59Arab leaders earlier warned against moving the embassy,

1:31:59 > 1:32:01saying it would be "a flagrant provocation to Muslims."

1:32:01 > 1:32:05But officials said Mr Trump would not move the US embassy

1:32:05 > 1:32:07from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem immediately, and it could

1:32:07 > 1:32:11take several years.

1:32:11 > 1:32:15This is a big break with official US policy in decades of international

1:32:15 > 1:32:21consensus. It is causing a big stir. At the moment, all countries that

1:32:21 > 1:32:27have embassies in Israel keep them in or near to Tel Aviv and do not

1:32:27 > 1:32:30recognise Jerusalem officially as the capital of Israel. That is

1:32:30 > 1:32:34because Israel sees all of the city as its eternal undivided capital.

1:32:34 > 1:32:41Palestinians want is to the recent, the occupied part of the city, to be

1:32:41 > 1:32:44their capital in a future Palestinian State. -- East

1:32:44 > 1:32:47Jerusalem. It has long been the international view there should all

1:32:47 > 1:32:54be worked out, the status of Jerusalem, in a peace deal between

1:32:54 > 1:32:57Israel and the Palestinians. But Donald Trump says he is delivering

1:32:57 > 1:33:02on a campaign pledge he made to move the embassy and to give recognition

1:33:02 > 1:33:07to Jerusalem. Israelis will see that as correcting an historic injustice.

1:33:07 > 1:33:13But Mahmoud of us, when he spoke to Donald Trump last night, he said

1:33:13 > 1:33:18this would have dangerous consequences, along with other Arab

1:33:18 > 1:33:27leaders -- Abbas. They say this will inflame religious tensions. They are

1:33:27 > 1:33:32also warning this will jeopardise his attempts to get the ultimate

1:33:32 > 1:33:38peace deal, as he has called it, between Israel and the Palestinians.

1:33:38 > 1:33:38'S Binky.

1:33:44 > 1:33:46Banks should end all unauthorised overdraft charges

1:33:46 > 1:33:48because they are trapping people in persistent debt,

1:33:48 > 1:33:50the financial charity StepChange has said.

1:33:50 > 1:33:53It says two million people in the UK used their overdraft facility every

1:33:53 > 1:33:54month last year.

1:33:54 > 1:33:57The organisation wants banks and regulators to do more

1:33:57 > 1:34:00to identify people caught up in a "vicious cycle of borrowing."

1:34:00 > 1:34:03Tens of thousands of people have been forced to flee from the path

1:34:03 > 1:34:05of wildfires in Southern California.

1:34:05 > 1:34:08Hundreds of buildings have been destroyed by the blazes and several

1:34:08 > 1:34:11thousand homes are under mandatory evacuation in the cities of Ventura

1:34:11 > 1:34:13and Santa Paula, north of Los Angeles.

1:34:13 > 1:34:15California has been hit hard by wildfires in recent months.

1:34:15 > 1:34:18At least 40 people were killed when fires ripped through parts

1:34:18 > 1:34:29of northern California's wine region in October.

1:34:29 > 1:34:42You might remember that. Christine Keeler, the model at the centre of

1:34:42 > 1:34:47the Profumo Affair of the 1960s, has died at the age of 75.

1:34:47 > 1:34:50She became famous after it emerged she'd had an affair with both the

1:34:50 > 1:34:53Conservative minister John Profumo and with a Russian diplomat, at the

1:34:53 > 1:34:57height of the Cold War. The scandal was considered by many to be the

1:34:57 > 1:34:58downfall of the Macmillan government.

1:34:58 > 1:35:01A former American Football stadium in Michigan has finally been

1:35:01 > 1:35:04successfully demolished a day after an attempt to bring

1:35:04 > 1:35:04it down failed.

1:35:04 > 1:35:07A plan to demolish the derelict Silverdome stadium

1:35:07 > 1:35:09near Detroit went wrong, when a series of explosives failed

1:35:09 > 1:35:11to detonate on Sunday, disappointing thousands

1:35:11 > 1:35:12of spectators.

1:35:12 > 1:35:15Did we show you this yesterday? Perhaps it is a set of different

1:35:15 > 1:35:22pictures. We did see this yesterday. I can confirm. This is new!No, it

1:35:22 > 1:35:30is the same! That is the top level. We have officially lost the news!We

1:35:30 > 1:35:37have always wanted to say that!If we are doing yesterday's news today,

1:35:37 > 1:35:46that means England have not yet lost the second test!Shall we just talk

1:35:46 > 1:35:54about Tuesday's news?We were full of optimism!We need Australia to

1:35:54 > 1:35:59the average bowling, I said that last night, and perhaps we could

1:35:59 > 1:36:08have a chance. They did not listen. They have been excellent. If you are

1:36:08 > 1:36:13just waking up, I am sorry, but England are now 2-0 down in the

1:36:13 > 1:36:16Ashes.

1:36:16 > 1:36:17It did not take long.

1:36:17 > 1:36:21It took about an hour and 45 minutes for England's six remaining batsmen

1:36:21 > 1:36:22to go down in Adelaide.

1:36:22 > 1:36:25Chris Woakes was out from the second ball of the day.

1:36:25 > 1:36:27That was the first thing I heard.

1:36:27 > 1:36:29Captain Joe Root quickly followed without adding

1:36:29 > 1:36:30to his overnight score.

1:36:30 > 1:36:31And the wickets just kept tumbling.

1:36:31 > 1:36:34Jonny Bairstow was the last man to go.

1:36:34 > 1:36:35England, all out for 233.

1:36:35 > 1:36:37The Australians win the second test by 120 runs.

1:36:37 > 1:36:43And the Swiss is an Adelaide. How to England comeback from this? -- Andy

1:36:43 > 1:36:50Swiss.It will be difficult. It is a shame. England came here with such

1:36:50 > 1:36:55high hopes. They were here in big numbers. They believed England could

1:36:55 > 1:37:04pull it off. Chris Woakes was out second ball. The writing was on the

1:37:04 > 1:37:08wall. The real damage was done in the first innings in Adelaide with

1:37:08 > 1:37:13bat and ball. England have a problem with their batting. Many players

1:37:13 > 1:37:21getting T20- 30-40. No one making big dig entries like Shaun Marsh.

1:37:21 > 1:37:40Captain Joe Root has taken positives out of the performance.

1:37:40 > 1:37:43The way we went about the second innings proved to everyone we are

1:37:43 > 1:37:47still massively in this series. It is as simple as that. Throughout the

1:37:47 > 1:37:50two games we have had periods where we outperformed Australia. Just not

1:37:50 > 1:37:54all of it. If we get that right and we can perform to our ability for

1:37:54 > 1:38:01longer periods of time, we will win games. It is as simple as that.

1:38:01 > 1:38:04This morning, before the game, I thought if we get a few wickets

1:38:04 > 1:38:05that would be good.

1:38:05 > 1:38:07180 runs was a lot of runs.

1:38:07 > 1:38:11It was pleasing Josh was able to come out and do what he did.

1:38:11 > 1:38:12His length was exceptional.

1:38:12 > 1:38:13Obviously, he got Joe Root.

1:38:13 > 1:38:29That put us in a good position.

1:38:29 > 1:38:32It was an impressive performance from Josh Hazlewood and the rest of

1:38:32 > 1:38:38Australia's rollers. That means they lead 2-0 in the series. -- bowlers.

1:38:38 > 1:38:44If they win the next test match in Perth next week, they will regain

1:38:44 > 1:38:48the Ashes. The bad news for England is they have not got victory in

1:38:48 > 1:38:54Perth since 1978, nearly 40 years ago. They have a week to prepare.

1:38:54 > 1:38:58They have a practice match on the weekend. They can look at some

1:38:58 > 1:39:03options. I was speaking to the famous former English batsman,

1:39:03 > 1:39:06Geoffrey Boycott, and he said England have no chance. A bit of

1:39:06 > 1:39:15work to do.Oh dear. Loving the positivity.We need a new plan for

1:39:15 > 1:39:21Perth. Thank you very much. I am moving on quickly.

1:39:21 > 1:39:24Chelsea had to settle for second place in their Champions League

1:39:24 > 1:39:27group, so face the risk of being drawn against one

1:39:27 > 1:39:29of the favourites in the knockout stage.

1:39:29 > 1:39:31They drew 1-1 with Spanish side Atletico Madrid.

1:39:31 > 1:39:33Chelsea fell behind but they equalised thanks

1:39:33 > 1:39:35to an own goal in the second half.

1:39:35 > 1:39:38It means they could now face Barcelona or Paris Sant Germain

1:39:38 > 1:39:39in the last 16.

1:39:39 > 1:39:42Manchester United finish top of Group A, but they had to come

1:39:42 > 1:39:44from behind to beat CSKA Moscow.

1:39:44 > 1:39:47They were 1-0 down at half-time but two quickfire goals

1:39:47 > 1:39:49from Romelu Lukaku and Marcus Rashford sealed a 2-1 win

1:39:49 > 1:39:51for Jose Mourinho's side.

1:39:51 > 1:39:54United reach the knockout stage for the first time in three years

1:39:54 > 1:39:57and equal a club record 40 matches unbeaten at Old Trafford.

1:39:57 > 1:39:59Celtic have qualified for the Europa League despite losing

1:39:59 > 1:40:011-0 to Belgian side Anderlecht.

1:40:01 > 1:40:04The Scottish champions knew they had to avoid defeat by three goals

1:40:04 > 1:40:06or more to seal third place in Group B.

1:40:06 > 1:40:08Russia has been banned from competing at next year's winter

1:40:11 > 1:40:14Ronnie O'Sullivan is the highest seed left in snooker's UK

1:40:14 > 1:40:16Championship going into the last 16.

1:40:16 > 1:40:19The world number four easily beat Michael White in the third round.

1:40:19 > 1:40:22O'Sullivan made a break of 132 on his way to winning by six

1:40:22 > 1:40:24frames to one.

1:40:24 > 1:40:27He's looking to equal Steve Davis' record of six UK titles this week.

1:40:27 > 1:40:30But he might not be around to break that record next year.

1:40:30 > 1:40:33Ronnie says he's got eyes on appearing on "I'm

1:40:33 > 1:40:41a Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here."

1:40:41 > 1:40:45I used to think, I could not do that, I have to be a pure snooker

1:40:45 > 1:40:45player.

1:40:45 > 1:40:49But you get to a stage where you think this is painful,

1:40:49 > 1:40:51that is fine, it is a good laugh.

1:40:51 > 1:40:52And that is great.

1:40:52 > 1:40:55I want to do as much as I can.

1:40:55 > 1:40:57But as long as I am in the top 64.

1:40:57 > 1:40:59It doesn't matter any more.

1:40:59 > 1:41:05Why not?

1:41:05 > 1:41:13Good luck to him. Thank you.

1:41:13 > 1:41:16Fake news can be made to look so convincing, especially on social

1:41:16 > 1:41:23media. How are children meant to tell the difference?BBC is

1:41:23 > 1:41:32launching a new initiative to help young people identify real news.

1:41:32 > 1:41:36This is how children to find fake news.

1:41:36 > 1:41:44-- define.When someone spreads rumours that are not true.If it is

1:41:44 > 1:41:47serious news, it can get you worry in and thinking about stuff too

1:41:47 > 1:41:52much.If I hear something and believe it, I feel like I am being

1:41:52 > 1:42:00tricked.It is very persuasive. You think it is real.If it is fake, you

1:42:00 > 1:42:06don't know what is actually happening in the world.We now know

1:42:06 > 1:42:13how to spot fake news using the type of language that the article uses.I

1:42:13 > 1:42:18now know that something is fake because I can check the brand of it

1:42:18 > 1:42:22and I can research it on the Internet.UKIP we were given about

1:42:22 > 1:42:29spotting fake news is look at the title. -- The tip. Look at how big

1:42:29 > 1:42:34the company is and look at the type of writing.The best advice I got

1:42:34 > 1:42:42was look for a proper brand.

1:42:42 > 1:42:51They seem to know what they are doing. Joining us is the editor in

1:42:51 > 1:42:55chief of First News for Children. And also the woman who carried out

1:42:55 > 1:43:00this study on fake news. It is interesting to see what the children

1:43:00 > 1:43:05had to say. What were the main findings?Everything you saw, they

1:43:05 > 1:43:12are very savvy on the eerie. They absolutely get it. -- theory. But

1:43:12 > 1:43:16with practice, they can come unstuck. That was the key finding.

1:43:16 > 1:43:25They want to trust news sources and outlets. The BBC, Sky News, it is

1:43:25 > 1:43:29deal important to them, but they are accessing it through Snapchat and

1:43:29 > 1:43:34YouTube. That is the difference we are finding.OK.You obviously deal

1:43:34 > 1:43:40in real news. What would you say to children trying to spot it? What

1:43:40 > 1:43:46would you tell people to look out for specifically?The issue clearly

1:43:46 > 1:43:51is that the Internet is a fantastic source of information.

1:43:51 > 1:43:54Unfortunately, it is also a fantastic source of misinformation.

1:43:54 > 1:43:59And children do not have the ability to tell the difference. Sometimes it

1:43:59 > 1:44:03is difficult for adults as well. They are not taught to question

1:44:03 > 1:44:08things either at school and at home. They are taught things as fact. We

1:44:08 > 1:44:15need to say to children that you have to question things and don't

1:44:15 > 1:44:19just accept things you hear.Some children are naturally questioning

1:44:19 > 1:44:24everything and others are slightly more accepting. There is a

1:44:24 > 1:44:31difference in children. But I suppose that teaching in school a

1:44:31 > 1:44:35framework of how to look at a story, that is essential in the modern era.

1:44:35 > 1:44:42Absolutely. It has to be embedded. But not just a tag on. It has to be

1:44:42 > 1:44:46embedded into everything they do. They live in a digital world. We

1:44:46 > 1:44:51need to talk about that with them all of the time. And also at home.

1:44:51 > 1:44:55Families and carers, the need to talk about that with their children.

1:44:55 > 1:45:00It is important for you that children know what the trust as

1:45:00 > 1:45:09well, what type of media to trust and what kind of sources. -- what to

1:45:09 > 1:45:14trust.There needs to be education for parents to see children should

1:45:14 > 1:45:18not be on social networks until they are 13, but unfortunately that horse

1:45:18 > 1:45:27has bolted. We cannot close that date. We need to sit to children, as

1:45:27 > 1:45:31they were saying just now, check your sources and have a look. --

1:45:31 > 1:45:36gate. Is it a reputable source of information? Before the brands you

1:45:36 > 1:45:44know. Look for BBC and Sky News and brands you know and trust.

1:45:44 > 1:45:49It sounds silly to say go and check work, what you're reading, soap

1:45:49 > 1:45:55trusted sources?-- check what you're reading -- so trusted

1:45:55 > 1:46:02stories.And you found out they trusted TV news?Great! They were

1:46:02 > 1:46:06less trustworthy of radio because they conceded. That indicates the

1:46:06 > 1:46:10visual world children live in. They tell stories through pictures and

1:46:10 > 1:46:15images rather than writing and reading further and in-depth

1:46:15 > 1:46:19knowledge.There's a comment about Prince Harry, saying they knew he

1:46:19 > 1:46:23was getting married because they saw him say that. That's a good source,

1:46:23 > 1:46:29isn't it? Primary source. Go back to your source. At this time of day

1:46:29 > 1:46:33there's many parents watching, if they are having this, safe and with

1:46:33 > 1:46:36their children, either after this or later after they come back from

1:46:36 > 1:46:40school, what would be the most important piece of advice you would

1:46:40 > 1:46:46give on this issue?Discuss it. Ask children what they think, what they

1:46:46 > 1:46:49believe and then start to investigate. There isn't a rule

1:46:49 > 1:46:53book, there isn't this is what you must do, ABC, but open discussions

1:46:53 > 1:46:58and children want to have those discussions.Too often parents don't

1:46:58 > 1:47:02want to talk to children about these topics because they hope they

1:47:02 > 1:47:05haven't heard about it but that's dangerous because they go into the

1:47:05 > 1:47:09playground and they hear misinformation and things second or

1:47:09 > 1:47:14third hand.Is there a particular type of story that children engage

1:47:14 > 1:47:22with or is it individuals?It's everything. The NSPCC and ChildLine

1:47:22 > 1:47:26have recorded a huge increase in calls about anxiety related to the

1:47:26 > 1:47:30news and it's really important we address that. It isn't just about

1:47:30 > 1:47:35fake news per se but it's about the way real news is reported in a

1:47:35 > 1:47:41nonsense Asian list, scary way. We all as the media need to look at how

1:47:41 > 1:47:48we are reporting things and how they are heard -- Eynon sensationalist.

1:47:48 > 1:47:54Any age group could be watching us on Breakfast. -- eight long on

1:47:54 > 1:48:02sensationalist -- a non- sensationalist.The Manchester

1:48:02 > 1:48:06attack and Grenfell Tower, they were really significant so how they play

1:48:06 > 1:48:11out on Twitter is really important as well.Very interesting. You know

1:48:11 > 1:48:15who we can always trust?Carol Kirkwood. She might tell us things

1:48:15 > 1:48:19about snow and ice but she always tells us nicely. Good morning,

1:48:19 > 1:48:27Carol.Good morning. I'm in a Winter Wonderland this morning in Hyde Park

1:48:27 > 1:48:31in London. You can see the iconic big wheel, it's very psychedelic.

1:48:31 > 1:48:36Lots going on here, Christmas markets and lots of fun for the

1:48:36 > 1:48:41whole family with various rides. And of course the magical ice kingdom.

1:48:41 > 1:48:47We were there earlier. It's -10 inside and outside it is ten, much

1:48:47 > 1:48:50warmer, we've literally come outside to warmup.

1:48:51 > 1:48:55The forecast today for all is a mild one and for some it will be very

1:48:55 > 1:49:00mild. A lot of cloud around but also rain and windy conditions in the

1:49:00 > 1:49:06forecast as well. If we start at looking at Scotland, at 9am today we

1:49:06 > 1:49:09have rain, rain coming in across the north-west, accompanied by strong

1:49:09 > 1:49:15winds. A fairly windy night and a windy day. In the north-west we

1:49:15 > 1:49:19start off on a cloudy note but mostly dry. In northern England, in

1:49:19 > 1:49:23the north-west, you're not immune to some showers but in the north-east,

1:49:23 > 1:49:26brightness breaking through. As we come south across the Midlands into

1:49:26 > 1:49:31East Anglia, Essex and Kent, to the Isle of Wight and southern counties

1:49:31 > 1:49:34generally there's a lot of cloud around. A few brighter breaks

1:49:34 > 1:49:38developing but they will be fairly transient and where we have the

1:49:38 > 1:49:42thickest cloud, especially with height, we could see showers, for

1:49:42 > 1:49:48example in south-east England. In Plymouth by 9am, 12. In Wales, a

1:49:48 > 1:49:52cloudy start, again brighter breaks developing but still light rain or

1:49:52 > 1:49:55showers coming through the thickest cloud but a wet start in Northern

1:49:55 > 1:50:00Ireland and also windy. It will be windy wherever you are today but the

1:50:00 > 1:50:04strongest winds will be in the north of the country. The rain will

1:50:04 > 1:50:08continue to journey south-east through the day, so the driest

1:50:08 > 1:50:12conditions will be in most of England and Wales. Temperature wise

1:50:12 > 1:50:17today, pretty good shape, ten to 12, but across the north coast of

1:50:17 > 1:50:21Northern Ireland, around the Moray Firth for example, we could see 13,

1:50:21 > 1:50:25above average for this stage in December. Through the evening and

1:50:25 > 1:50:29overnight the wind will be a feature, strengthening, gales across

1:50:29 > 1:50:33the west and the rain will push steadily south and by the end of the

1:50:33 > 1:50:37night Storm Caroline will be showing her hand in north-west Scotland with

1:50:37 > 1:50:42storm force winds. Tomorrow, as well as the storm force winds, we're also

1:50:42 > 1:50:46going to have snow at lower levels in the north of Scotland. Storm

1:50:46 > 1:50:51Caroline will move from the west to the east across northern Scotland,

1:50:51 > 1:50:55but this swathe of strong winds will probably extend down to the Central

1:50:55 > 1:51:01Lowlands bore the worst our. With the lying snow at low levels we

1:51:01 > 1:51:09could have blizzards. -- for the rush-hour. Big waves down the east

1:51:09 > 1:51:13coast. The other thing worth mentioning is that it will feel

1:51:13 > 1:51:17colder. First thing on Friday we could have snow showers in Scotland,

1:51:17 > 1:51:21Northern Ireland, northern England and north Wales, some of them will

1:51:21 > 1:51:25blow well inland during the morning and through the day. We won't be an

1:51:25 > 1:51:29union to them through the day but a lot of dry weather as well and again

1:51:29 > 1:51:33feeling cold, if anything temperatures lower than tomorrow --

1:51:33 > 1:51:38would be immune. Still snow in the forecast for the weekend. -- won't

1:51:38 > 1:51:42be immune. May be some significant snow on Sunday. There's the

1:51:42 > 1:51:47potential for it but the timing and placement could change. Coming in

1:51:47 > 1:51:52from the west, later, rain sleet and snow and the main areas will be in

1:51:52 > 1:51:55high areas of the Midlands Northwoods but worth keeping in

1:51:55 > 1:51:58touch with the weather cast for because that could change. --

1:51:58 > 1:52:00Midlands north.

1:52:01 > 1:52:07It is a bit steamed up, now, the camera, because you are outside,

1:52:07 > 1:52:11cameras don't like changes in temperatures.It was -10 inside the

1:52:11 > 1:52:16display in Hyde Park but outside it is much milder.Looks like she has a

1:52:16 > 1:52:19halo!She always has one, I think!

1:52:19 > 1:52:22It's fair to say that Deliveroo has helped to change the face

1:52:22 > 1:52:25of the British takeaway, giving people in large towns

1:52:25 > 1:52:28and cities the ability to have all kinds of restaurant cuisine

1:52:28 > 1:52:30delivered at the tap of a smart phone.

1:52:30 > 1:52:32But it's a business that's been in the headlines

1:52:32 > 1:52:34for negative reasons too.

1:52:34 > 1:52:36Steph has the boss with her this morning.

1:52:36 > 1:52:39We have the boss with us this morning and I will be talking with

1:52:39 > 1:52:41him in a moment.

1:52:41 > 1:52:44Deliveroo allows customes to order food and drinks from 10,000 local

1:52:44 > 1:52:46restaurants and get it delivered to their door by bike,

1:52:46 > 1:52:50all via an app on their phone which also allows them to track

1:52:50 > 1:52:51where the delivery is.

1:52:51 > 1:52:53It's revolutionised the concept of a takeaway,

1:52:53 > 1:52:57but it's also hit the headlines, for not giving their 15,000 riders

1:52:57 > 1:53:02basic rights like minimum wage or holiday and sick pay

1:53:02 > 1:53:14because of the way they're employed.

1:53:14 > 1:53:18How does it work with the drivers, how are they employed and how are

1:53:18 > 1:53:23they paid?I can, I should say a bit about the company, we are a food

1:53:23 > 1:53:27company that allows customers to order from 10,000 restaurants

1:53:27 > 1:53:31nationwide and a key part of that ordering process is through the act,

1:53:31 > 1:53:35when they click on the menu item they want and they ask for that to

1:53:35 > 1:53:38be delivered and then we have a network of 15,000 riders that will,

1:53:38 > 1:53:43through their own phones, pick up the food and take it to the

1:53:43 > 1:53:47customer. It's important to us that those riders are treated fairly and

1:53:47 > 1:53:51they enjoy working on the Deliveroo platform and they can make good

1:53:51 > 1:53:56money doing so. And they are paid by us around once every two weeks and

1:53:56 > 1:54:00our average earnings across the country are £9 50 and those

1:54:00 > 1:54:03individuals can work through the platform when and where they wish.

1:54:03 > 1:54:07That's the key to the flexibility that affords them the type of work

1:54:07 > 1:54:12they want to do and allows us to be able to recruit the vast volumes of

1:54:12 > 1:54:18riders we have around the country. All of these guys will work with

1:54:18 > 1:54:21Deliveroo alongside other work. They may be self-employed, running their

1:54:21 > 1:54:25own businesses, they might be students who are studying and

1:54:25 > 1:54:29outside of that the flexibility afforded by us that allows them to

1:54:29 > 1:54:33work when and where they wish gives them the right type of work to

1:54:33 > 1:54:40supplement the rest of their life. You say on average the drivers get

1:54:40 > 1:54:44£9.5, but that's on average, so there could be instances where a

1:54:44 > 1:54:48driver gets one job and our then they could earn less than the

1:54:48 > 1:54:52minimum wage?As a company it is important we are transparent with

1:54:52 > 1:54:57riders about what they are likely to earn at given periods. As a company

1:54:57 > 1:55:00that relies on a lot of lunch business and dinner business on the

1:55:00 > 1:55:04it's fair to say that as a rider you're likely to make significant

1:55:04 > 1:55:09amounts of money during those times. But there are times when you could

1:55:09 > 1:55:14work less than the minimum wage?We work closely to make sure they earn

1:55:14 > 1:55:20good money at any time but the flexibility afforded to them means

1:55:20 > 1:55:24they can earn different amounts. Unlike in the restaurant industry,

1:55:24 > 1:55:28when you get a shift and you have to commit to a specific time when you

1:55:28 > 1:55:33come in and work those hours, our riders can choose to work when they

1:55:33 > 1:55:37wish, wherever they wish, and simultaneously work with other

1:55:37 > 1:55:40platforms, so they don't just necessarily work with Deliveroo,

1:55:40 > 1:55:45they can choose to accept jobs through other platforms.There will

1:55:45 > 1:55:48still be some of your drivers who are earning less than the minimum

1:55:48 > 1:55:53wage?Average earnings as I said... Some will be earning less than the

1:55:53 > 1:55:58minimum wage? Can you cancer that? It's important to stress we give

1:55:58 > 1:56:03them a lot of understanding of when they should be working to make the

1:56:03 > 1:56:08maximum possible amount of money -- answer. Should a rider logged in at

1:56:08 > 1:56:144pm in a period where its particularly slow... -- log. If we

1:56:14 > 1:56:19tell them then they're not going to make as much during those periods

1:56:19 > 1:56:23and they still choose to work, we can't specifically dictate what they

1:56:23 > 1:56:26will make.Do you say from the outset you could be learning less

1:56:26 > 1:56:30than the minimum wage?We communicate its a soft period and

1:56:30 > 1:56:35their likely to make less money than they would at peak.That doesn't

1:56:35 > 1:56:39sound as transparent as saying they could be earning less than the

1:56:39 > 1:56:43minimum wage. You want to bring out into runs for them?We have done

1:56:43 > 1:56:47that today. It's the first ever insurance for food delivery riders

1:56:47 > 1:56:53that offers them protection against illness and any injury -- bring out

1:56:53 > 1:56:56insurance for them. If they are injured and unable to work they will

1:56:56 > 1:57:04be covered for the lost earnings. This is an insurance policy that at

1:57:04 > 1:57:07£1.85 per week is substantially cheaper than not only anything

1:57:07 > 1:57:13within the food delivery area but the food economy at large. It's a

1:57:13 > 1:57:18policy where we have got a prize working with parties as a result of

1:57:18 > 1:57:22the vast number of riders we have but also because we are subsidising

1:57:22 > 1:57:28that policy, we are offering 40% so riders get it as cheap as they

1:57:28 > 1:57:31possibly can.It sounds like you are basically charging the drivers to

1:57:31 > 1:57:37cover themselves when they are sick, which a lot of the drivers are

1:57:37 > 1:57:41asking for, that's what people want in the gig economy, the rights they

1:57:41 > 1:57:45would get if they are staff in a company.We've been clear as a

1:57:45 > 1:57:50company that we would support paying for all of these benefits, things

1:57:50 > 1:57:55like sick pay or holiday in five comments, but in order to do so we

1:57:55 > 1:57:59would require a change in the law so the government have been reviewing

1:57:59 > 1:58:04this and we've been asked to input into that review...You want the

1:58:04 > 1:58:09change in the law?We certainly do, yes. We would love to end what we

1:58:09 > 1:58:13see as a trade-off between the flexibility that one gets in being

1:58:13 > 1:58:16self-employed. The reason these individuals are self-employed is

1:58:16 > 1:58:20because they want to work when they like in the way they like alongside

1:58:20 > 1:58:23other things. We want to end that trade-off between that flexibility

1:58:23 > 1:58:29and the security one might get as an employee. Securities like benefits.

1:58:29 > 1:58:33However, we don't want to wait on the government to do that, we want

1:58:33 > 1:58:38to try to work as far as we can to ensure we can offer those securities

1:58:38 > 1:58:42through other means and this insurance is very much the start of

1:58:42 > 1:58:47that.Why are you charging for it? The riders would have to pay

1:58:47 > 1:58:50something to maintain that self-employed status. If we offered

1:58:50 > 1:58:56all of that for free then the existing law and the courts would

1:58:56 > 1:59:00likely ask them to be reclassified as employees and in so doing they

1:59:00 > 1:59:04would lose that flexibility which we know is really important to them.

1:59:04 > 1:59:09Dan, thanks for coming in to explain all of that. Appreciate that.

1:59:09 > 1:59:11That made me all a bit hungry!

1:59:11 > 1:59:13Time now to get the news, travel and weather where you are.

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2:02:35 > 2:02:38You can hear more news travel and weather on our website.

2:02:38 > 2:02:40Now it's back to Dan and Louise.

2:02:40 > 2:02:40Bye bye.

2:02:43 > 2:02:46Hello, this is Breakfast with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

2:02:46 > 2:02:48An alleged plot to kill the Prime Minister is prevented

2:02:48 > 2:02:49by security services.

2:02:49 > 2:02:52It's claimed the plan was to blow up the gates of Downing Street

2:02:52 > 2:02:54and to attack Theresa May with a knife.

2:02:54 > 2:03:01Two men are due in court in the next few hours on terrorism charges.

2:03:12 > 2:03:13Good morning. It's Wednesday, 6th December.

2:03:13 > 2:03:17Also this morning:

2:03:17 > 2:03:19President Trump breaks with decades of American policy on Israel.

2:03:19 > 2:03:24The White House says he will formally recognise

2:03:24 > 2:03:26Jerusalem as its capital and will move the US embassy

2:03:26 > 2:03:30there from Tel Aviv.

2:03:30 > 2:03:32Wildfires tear through southern California as thousands of people

2:03:32 > 2:03:35are forced to flee from their homes.

2:03:35 > 2:03:39Christine Keeler, the former model at the centre of the Profumo

2:03:39 > 2:03:41scandal, has died at the age of 75.

2:03:41 > 2:03:46We'll look back at her life.

2:03:46 > 2:03:49Over a third of us are putting Christmas on credit this year

2:03:49 > 2:03:51and more than two million people are nearly always

2:03:51 > 2:03:52in their overdraft.

2:03:52 > 2:03:54I'm looking at festive finances and not blowing your budget.

2:03:54 > 2:03:57Good morning.

2:03:57 > 2:03:59England's cricketers are licking their wounds

2:03:59 > 2:04:02after being taken apart by Australia very swiftly on the final day of

2:04:02 > 2:04:04the second Ashes test in Adelaide.

2:04:06 > 2:04:08And Carol has the weather for us this morning

2:04:08 > 2:04:15and she's feeling festive.

2:04:15 > 2:04:20Good morning from Winter Wonderland in London. I'm inside the magical

2:04:20 > 2:04:25ice kingdom. I'm surrounded by beautiful ice sculptures. It is

2:04:25 > 2:04:30milder outside and generally the forecast for today is a mild one. A

2:04:30 > 2:04:33cloudy one with windy conditions and wet conditions also across the

2:04:33 > 2:04:38north-west of Scotland, but I'll have more details in 15 minutes.

2:04:38 > 2:04:46Good morning. First, our main story.

2:04:46 > 2:04:48An alleged terror attack aimed at killing the Prime

2:04:48 > 2:04:50Minister and bombing Downing Street has been foiled

2:04:50 > 2:04:51by security services.

2:04:51 > 2:04:54Two men are due to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court

2:04:54 > 2:04:56later over alleged terror offences, one of them in connection

2:04:56 > 2:04:58to the planned attack against Theresa May.

2:04:58 > 2:04:59Andy Moore has this report.

2:04:59 > 2:05:02Number Ten Downing Street, the target of an alleged Islamist

2:05:02 > 2:05:07plot to kill the Prime Minister.

2:05:07 > 2:05:09It's understood the allegations involved a plan to bomb the security

2:05:09 > 2:05:11gates at the entrance to Downing Street and then

2:05:11 > 2:05:13in the ensuing chaos, launch a knife attack

2:05:13 > 2:05:17against Theresa May.

2:05:17 > 2:05:19Two men are due to appear before Westminster Magistrates' today

2:05:19 > 2:05:24charged with terrorism offences.

2:05:24 > 2:05:27Andrew Parker, the head of MI5, briefed the Prime Minister

2:05:27 > 2:05:30and the Cabinet yesterday about nine alleged terror plots that have been

2:05:30 > 2:05:34foiled since March this year.

2:05:34 > 2:05:36In the House of Commons, the Home Secretary said police

2:05:36 > 2:05:38would have the money they needed.

2:05:38 > 2:05:42We will shortly be announcing the budgets

2:05:42 > 2:05:44for policing for 2017-2018.

2:05:44 > 2:05:47I am clear that we must ensure counterterrorism policing has

2:05:47 > 2:05:54the resources needed to deal with the threats that we face.

2:05:54 > 2:05:58Yesterday, a report into the four terror attacks in the UK this year

2:05:58 > 2:06:00said some of those who carried them out were known to

2:06:00 > 2:06:03the security services.

2:06:03 > 2:06:05It suggested it was conceivable the Manchester Arena attack

2:06:05 > 2:06:10which killed 22 people could have been stopped.

2:06:10 > 2:06:1515-year-old Olivia Campbell Hardy was among those victims.

2:06:15 > 2:06:18Her grandfather said he was not blaming the security services.

2:06:18 > 2:06:22They're gonna do the best they can with the information they have

2:06:22 > 2:06:24got and they gather, assess themselves,

2:06:24 > 2:06:28assess the situation, make decisions, and act on it.

2:06:28 > 2:06:31I will not fault anybody for doing their job.

2:06:31 > 2:06:34The security services say the level of threat remains unprecedented,

2:06:34 > 2:06:44with over 500 active counter terror investigations.

2:06:44 > 2:06:47The White House says President Trump is to break with decades of American

2:06:47 > 2:06:50policy on Israel and is to recognise Jerusalem as the capital

2:06:50 > 2:06:54of Israel He's also due to begin the process of moving the US embassy

2:06:54 > 2:06:56to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, a process which may

2:06:56 > 2:06:58take several years.

2:06:58 > 2:07:00But Arab leaders have warned against moving the embassy,

2:07:00 > 2:07:06saying it would be "a flagrant provocation to Muslims".

2:07:06 > 2:07:09There's increasing pressure on the government to get Brexit

2:07:09 > 2:07:11negotiations back on track after an intervention by Northern

2:07:11 > 2:07:18Ireland's Democratic Unionist Party stalled talks in Brussels.

2:07:18 > 2:07:21The Irish border may be the key sticking point but divisions

2:07:21 > 2:07:23in the Conservative Party are further complicating matters

2:07:23 > 2:07:24for the Prime Minister.

2:07:24 > 2:07:25Our political correspondent Leila Nathoo is in

2:07:25 > 2:07:29Westminster this morning.

2:07:29 > 2:07:33We have been following this all week. When is there likely to be a

2:07:33 > 2:07:37breakthrough?Well, there is no signs as yet that anything has

2:07:37 > 2:07:42changed since the DUP intervened on Monday to stop that deal going

2:07:42 > 2:07:47through at the 11th hour that would have paved the way for trade talks

2:07:47 > 2:07:53to begin next week. Now, Theresa May had to come back from Brussels

2:07:53 > 2:07:57empty-handed after the DUP objected to her offering that Northern

2:07:57 > 2:08:00Ireland would be closely alined in regulation terms with the EU after

2:08:00 > 2:08:03Brexit. The DUP objecting to Northern Ireland being treated any

2:08:03 > 2:08:08differently to any other part of the UK. But that proposal from Theresa

2:08:08 > 2:08:15May has also caused anger among Brexiteers in the Cabinet who fear

2:08:15 > 2:08:20she is rowing back on the position to deviate from EU standards after

2:08:20 > 2:08:26Brexit, they are trying to keep her in check. Theresa May fighting

2:08:26 > 2:08:33battles on all sides. She has to get the DUP back on side so she can

2:08:33 > 2:08:37start the trade talks next week. She hasn't spoken to Arlene Foster, the

2:08:37 > 2:08:41DUP leader, so there is no sign yet that she will be able to go back to

2:08:41 > 2:08:44Brussels any time soon. So I think the next couple of days will be

2:08:44 > 2:08:47crucial to see if she can try and find some agreement.

2:08:47 > 2:08:52Thank you very much.

2:08:52 > 2:08:55Tens of thousands of people have been forced to flee from the path

2:08:55 > 2:08:56of wildfires in southern California.

2:08:56 > 2:08:59Hundreds of buildings have been destroyed by the blazes and several

2:08:59 > 2:09:01thousand homes are under mandatory evacuation in the cities

2:09:01 > 2:09:03of Ventura and Santa Paula, north of Los Angeles.

2:09:03 > 2:09:06California has been hit hard by wildfires in recent months.

2:09:06 > 2:09:08At least 40 people were killed when fires ripped through parts

2:09:08 > 2:09:14of northern California's wine region in October.

2:09:14 > 2:09:17Russia has been banned from competing at next year's

2:09:17 > 2:09:19Winter Olympics in South Korea following an investigation

2:09:19 > 2:09:24into state-sponsored doping at the 2014 Games in Sochi.

2:09:24 > 2:09:26The International Olympic Committee said Russian athletes who can prove

2:09:26 > 2:09:29they are clean will be allowed to compete, but under

2:09:29 > 2:09:32a neutral flag.

2:09:32 > 2:09:34Alex Capstick is in Lausanne where the decision was

2:09:34 > 2:09:42announced yesterday.

2:09:42 > 2:09:50What more can you tell us?Well, IOC members are back here at Olympic HQ

2:09:50 > 2:09:54for more meetings today, but they will begin by digesting events of

2:09:54 > 2:09:59yesterday when they were given no choice but to ban Russia from the

2:09:59 > 2:10:05Olympics. They were presented from evidence from Samuel Smith, a former

2:10:05 > 2:10:10president, who was looking at the issue where the conspiracy in Sochi

2:10:10 > 2:10:15helped protect Russian drug cheats and the wider programme going on in

2:10:15 > 2:10:19for many years. He stated it was. The country had manipulated the

2:10:19 > 2:10:25anti-doping rules and that's why the Russian Olympic Committee was

2:10:25 > 2:10:28banned, but key officials and including the Deputy Prime Minister

2:10:28 > 2:10:32who used to run the Sports Ministery. Neutral athletes will be

2:10:32 > 2:10:37allowed to complete under the neutral flag. In a conversion from

2:10:37 > 2:10:43the IOC, they were be known as independent athletes from Russia.

2:10:43 > 2:10:48There is a possible boycott from Vladimir Putin looming over this

2:10:48 > 2:10:50whole thing.Thank you very much.

2:10:51 > 2:10:55She was the model who at the age of just 19, was at the centre

2:10:55 > 2:10:57of a scandal which rocked 1960s British politics.

2:10:57 > 2:11:00Yesterday it was announced Christine Keeler has died aged 75.

2:11:00 > 2:11:02The revelation of her affair with the Cabinet minister

2:11:02 > 2:11:05John Profumo and a Russian diplomat led to the Conservative

2:11:05 > 2:11:06government downfall.

2:11:06 > 2:11:14Nick Higham has taken a look at her life.

2:11:14 > 2:11:17It was the biggest scandal of the 1960s, and Christine Keeler

2:11:17 > 2:11:25was the woman at its centre.

2:11:25 > 2:11:27Model, party girl, and mistress of powerful men.

2:11:27 > 2:11:29John Profumo was the Minister for War.

2:11:29 > 2:11:31He and Christine had a brief affair.

2:11:31 > 2:11:33When challenged, he lied about it to the House of Commons

2:11:33 > 2:11:34and was forced to resign.

2:11:34 > 2:11:37It didn't help that Yevgeny Ivanov, a KGB spy,

2:11:37 > 2:11:39had also been seeing Keeler.

2:11:39 > 2:11:42The old establishment never recovered from the shock.

2:11:42 > 2:11:47The Profumo Affair spelt the end of Prime Minister Harold Macmillan's

2:11:47 > 2:11:50government, but also the end of an era of deference and respect,

2:11:50 > 2:12:00in which sleaze had been discretely swept under the carpet.

2:12:02 > 2:12:07I wish I had been older so I would have been able to have answered or

2:12:07 > 2:12:13spoke up for myself. She left school at 15. Her childhood

2:12:13 > 2:12:18home was a pair of converted railway carriages and she had a child at 17

2:12:18 > 2:12:24and lived with a notorious slum landlord. Later a West Indian

2:12:24 > 2:12:26boyfriend was charged with assaulting her and Christine lied in

2:12:26 > 2:12:35court. She was jailed for perjury. She lives here. She owns the shop

2:12:35 > 2:12:39around the corner. She went on to write three books.

2:12:39 > 2:12:44She was often broke. A victim, many thought, of establishment hypocrisy

2:12:44 > 2:12:49and two marriages ended in divorce. Tonight her son said she earnt her

2:12:49 > 2:12:55place in British history, but at huge personal cost.

2:12:55 > 2:13:01That was Christine Keeler.

2:13:01 > 2:13:09We are going to talk about her now with Joe Boyd. You met her a number

2:13:09 > 2:13:13of times. Tell us what she was like? Well, she was, it was a great

2:13:13 > 2:13:20contrast. She and Mandy, we interviewed them not together, but

2:13:20 > 2:13:27over the same period of time. Mandy was very witty and calm. Christine

2:13:27 > 2:13:32was clearly very damaged, you know, she had a very difficult childhood.

2:13:32 > 2:13:38She had been abused. I think she as she said in that little clip that

2:13:38 > 2:13:45you aired, she wished she had been able to handle the situation better.

2:13:45 > 2:13:49She seemed, I don't know, a victim, I suppose. And I think she was, you

2:13:49 > 2:13:56know, she was a beautiful woman who, you know, entered the world of

2:13:56 > 2:14:03Stephen Ward at 17, you know, and started being introduced to older

2:14:03 > 2:14:07men and it's, you know, we see it today, you know, how politicians are

2:14:07 > 2:14:12getting caught by their interest in beautiful young girls and it

2:14:12 > 2:14:18certainly happened then.Mandy cas her friend and Stephen Ward was an

2:14:18 > 2:14:22osteo path who introduced her to lots of different people and she had

2:14:22 > 2:14:29had already by that stage a difficult time, hadn't she?Yes, I

2:14:29 > 2:14:34think when her father, you know, wandered off when she was very young

2:14:34 > 2:14:40and her mother's boyfriend abused her and she was raped and, you know,

2:14:40 > 2:14:45I mean, it's, I mean, I don't know, I'm not a psychologist, but people

2:14:45 > 2:14:49say, it freezes you in a kind of state of childishness which when

2:14:49 > 2:14:53you're beautiful and you have a fantastic figure and beautiful face

2:14:53 > 2:15:00and you act a bit childish, it's very, very appealing to men. Look,

2:15:00 > 2:15:05at Marilyn Monroe, you know.You really changed the sort of view

2:15:05 > 2:15:09about her in so many ways, didn't you, with what you did with her book

2:15:09 > 2:15:14and then the film?Well, we based the film on many sources. I mean,

2:15:14 > 2:15:20you know, one of the key sources in making the film was the Denham

2:15:20 > 2:15:24report. We couldn't really be sued when we based the script on a

2:15:24 > 2:15:30government White Paper. I think there is some fantastic newsreel

2:15:30 > 2:15:35footage from 1963 and the trial of Stephen Ward when Christine arrives

2:15:35 > 2:15:40at the Old Bailey, she has to hold her coat up over her face and she

2:15:40 > 2:15:46gets thrown, you know, rotten fruit thrown at her and people shouting at

2:15:46 > 2:15:52her. I think she was treated unfairly at the time. People felt

2:15:52 > 2:15:56tremendous sympathy from John Profumo who had pursued her even

2:15:56 > 2:16:01though he knew she was a friend of the Russian spy and I think over the

2:16:01 > 2:16:09years that view continued and after the portrayal of her and we tried to

2:16:09 > 2:16:14keep the script as accurate and historical fact, people came away

2:16:14 > 2:16:20feeling that she and Stephen Ward were kind of victims of

2:16:20 > 2:16:24establishment hypocrisy.

2:16:24 > 2:16:25were kind of victims of establishment hypocrisy.What

2:16:25 > 2:16:29happened, the whole scandal brought down the Macmillan government, she

2:16:29 > 2:16:35was aware of how significant what happened was, historically.

2:16:38 > 2:16:42Yes, they were dear friends, she and Stephen, they lived in his flat at

2:16:42 > 2:16:46the period, he was in a fishy in either of political intrigue, he

2:16:46 > 2:16:54loved the idea, he would say, the Minister for war going out of the

2:16:54 > 2:16:57front door, and the naval attach Schaefer Russia is coming in the

2:16:57 > 2:17:01back door! -- aficionado. He relished this, he exaggerated it,

2:17:01 > 2:17:09because her affair with Ivanov was only one night, maybe two, not much

2:17:09 > 2:17:17to it. Even imagined himself getting involved and solving the Cuban

2:17:17 > 2:17:22missile crisis. There was a lot of chat about the historical

2:17:22 > 2:17:26significance of what was going on. Was their contact with her Ilai

2:17:26 > 2:17:37Tinai?Since the film came out, she moved to South London, and I think

2:17:37 > 2:17:45we had a little bit of contact.-- contact with her in later life.

2:17:45 > 2:17:50There was an exhibition of her, the famous photographs, and a bunch of

2:17:50 > 2:17:54photographs at her gallery in Cork street, and I saw her then, I know

2:17:54 > 2:17:59that she went to Moscow, she met Ivanov after glasnost, and he

2:17:59 > 2:18:06apologised for his role.Thank you so much for speaking with us about

2:18:06 > 2:18:11her. Joe Boyd, producer of the film Scandal, talking about Christine

2:18:11 > 2:18:20Keeler. Fascinating insight.

2:18:20 > 2:18:23Very important question, do you think that Carol has gone put up or

2:18:23 > 2:18:33had down for this weather report. Third up!No, it is down!-- hood

2:18:33 > 2:18:39up.We are in the magical ice kingdom in winter wonderland, it is

2:18:39 > 2:18:4520 degrees warmer outside, plus ten outside, look at it, it is stunning,

2:18:45 > 2:18:51deep sea adventure theme. 500 tonnes of ice and snow, to make these

2:18:51 > 2:18:57magnificent sculptures. We start making them in April, we have fish,

2:18:57 > 2:19:01you can see scales and tentacles on the octopus and over here we have

2:19:01 > 2:19:09got sharks and dolphins and deep sea divers and it is amazing. If you are

2:19:09 > 2:19:15coming in to see this, make sure you wrap up warmly. Outside, it is mild,

2:19:15 > 2:19:21a mild day, generally. From tomorrow, the temperature is going

2:19:21 > 2:19:26down. A lot of cloud around today, and some of us have rain, all of us

2:19:26 > 2:19:32will have winter conditions. Rain coming in across the North West in

2:19:32 > 2:19:37Scotland, rest of Scotland mostly dry but fairly cloudy, strong winds,

2:19:37 > 2:19:42in northern England, cloudy with some showers in the north-west,

2:19:42 > 2:19:50brighter skies developing, as we come south, again, a lot of cloud

2:19:50 > 2:19:55through the day. One or two breaks but equally, especially with height,

2:19:55 > 2:20:00we will see showers coming through. For Wales, dry start to the day,

2:20:00 > 2:20:06some brightness, one or two showers, with heights, around Snowdonia. And

2:20:06 > 2:20:12as we head into Northern Ireland, wet and windy start. Through the

2:20:12 > 2:20:16course of the day, the wind will be a feature, notable feature wherever

2:20:16 > 2:20:20you are. The rain across Scotland and Northern Ireland will venture

2:20:20 > 2:20:24Southeast, through the day. The head of it, cloudy conditions, one or two

2:20:24 > 2:20:29bright spots, temperatures across-the-board ten to 12. Around

2:20:29 > 2:20:36the Murray first, we could see 13, possibly 14. As we head overnight,

2:20:36 > 2:20:39the wind continued to strengthening, the wind and the rain continues to

2:20:39 > 2:20:44push down towards the south-east. By the end of the night, Dales in the

2:20:44 > 2:20:47West and also Storm Caroline affecting the far north-west of

2:20:47 > 2:20:52Scotland with storm force winds as well as that we will have snow

2:20:52 > 2:20:57showers, even at lower levels. It's going to be a cold night in the

2:20:57 > 2:21:02North, comparatively mild in the South. Through the also tomorrow,

2:21:02 > 2:21:05Storm Caroline will move from the West to the east across Scotland,

2:21:05 > 2:21:12strongest wind in the North. Around the central lowlands for the rush

2:21:12 > 2:21:19hour, very windy, looking at Inland Dales. There will be blizzards. --

2:21:19 > 2:21:27Inland gales. Some big waves tomorrow, along the east Coast.

2:21:27 > 2:21:35Further snow showers tomorrow, and also, across North Wales, through

2:21:35 > 2:21:40the day, some of those will be blown well inland, so not all of us will

2:21:40 > 2:21:45see them. In between, sunshine as well, feeling even colder on Friday

2:21:45 > 2:21:51then it will tomorrow. Weekend, not down to the snow showers yet. -- not

2:21:51 > 2:21:56done with the snow showers yet. On Sunday, this is what I want to flag

2:21:56 > 2:22:00up, the potential for a weather front coming in from the west,

2:22:00 > 2:22:03introducing rain, sleet and snow, but some significant snow,

2:22:03 > 2:22:08particularly in the higher routes, from the Midlands northwards. That

2:22:08 > 2:22:12could change, the timing and the positioning, if you are on the move,

2:22:12 > 2:22:16please do keep watching the weather forecast.I'm going outside to warm

2:22:16 > 2:22:25up. We have seen you run of, are you actually running outside at the end

2:22:25 > 2:22:38of each one.Yes, I am! I am!I'm running! It is like Anneka Rice or

2:22:38 > 2:22:46The Crystal Maze... LAUGHTER

2:22:53 > 2:23:00Right, no, left... Stay with her... She is outside! She has made it!

2:23:00 > 2:23:07LAUGHTER There she is...

2:23:08 > 2:23:15Excellent, I love that... That is my favourite bit of the day.She has

2:23:15 > 2:23:21really proven that she can run.You are here to talk about Christmas,

2:23:21 > 2:23:25there is a warning... Lots of people facing high levels of debt, putting

2:23:25 > 2:23:30Christmas on their credit cards, particularly this year.Christmas

2:23:30 > 2:23:33can be really expensive, especially if you have children and lots of

2:23:33 > 2:23:37things to pay for, food, presents, people can feel pressured. Charities

2:23:37 > 2:23:43have done research on this. More of us are worrying about money this

2:23:43 > 2:23:47Christmas than we have done previously. They are saying one in

2:23:47 > 2:23:50seven of us have nights where they are constantly thinking about the

2:23:50 > 2:23:57money they have to spend. More than one third of us put Christmas on

2:23:57 > 2:24:01credit. Borrowing money to pay for Christmas, what a worrying

2:24:01 > 2:24:09statistic. Also, you have a charity, step change, they have been looking

2:24:09 > 2:24:13into finances and how people deal with debt, they have found that 2

2:24:13 > 2:24:17million people last year were permanently in their overdraft, that

2:24:17 > 2:24:22can be a vicious circle, facing charges in your overdraft. Difficult

2:24:22 > 2:24:28to get out of them. I spoke with Laura readers get early on from Step

2:24:28 > 2:24:31change and she has spoken about what she wants the banks to do.People

2:24:31 > 2:24:38are hit very regularly by overdraft charges.-- Step Change.When they

2:24:38 > 2:24:46are hit by this regularly, it pushes them further into debt. We want to

2:24:46 > 2:24:50scrap them, we want to make sure they are more transparent and clear.

2:24:50 > 2:24:54That would make a big difference to people, banks are there to make

2:24:54 > 2:25:00money as well... So there is that whole debate. We have had a lot of

2:25:00 > 2:25:09messages about this.People concerned about overdraft, you want

2:25:09 > 2:25:12to have family around but some members of the family have more

2:25:12 > 2:25:18money than others. If I don't have it I don't spend it, says Steve.

2:25:18 > 2:25:21Another year with a debt free Christmas, save and plan and do not

2:25:21 > 2:25:26overspend, says dojo. Others say they have a certain account with a

2:25:26 > 2:25:31bank and they have charged a flat overdraft fee, now there is a daily

2:25:31 > 2:25:41charge.It triple people. An extra £50 a month in bills can push people

2:25:41 > 2:25:45to their limits, really, in terms of the money they have. Some research

2:25:45 > 2:25:50has been done on that, suggesting, a lot of people would struggle if

2:25:50 > 2:25:54their bills went up by 50 quid a month.You can help yourself by

2:25:54 > 2:25:57talking to your bank.Yes, and talking to charities like Step

2:25:57 > 2:26:04Change, citizens advice, they are all designed to give you advice on

2:26:04 > 2:26:07how to consolidate debts and things like that.Are you going to run off

2:26:07 > 2:26:12in a minute?Perhaps I should!A couple more, windy Christmas become

2:26:12 > 2:26:17such an expensive celebration. Should be about families coming

2:26:17 > 2:26:21together, you do not have to spend spend spend, should not be a

2:26:21 > 2:26:25commercial business. And another message, Kate, I know overdraft are

2:26:25 > 2:26:36not a good thing but I would happily go into one to get a pair of Steph's

2:26:36 > 2:26:40shoes!And we've been talking about how some of the best Christmas

2:26:40 > 2:26:43presents are those which do not involve a lot of money but take a

2:26:43 > 2:26:48lot of thought.One of my great friends from school made a photo

2:26:48 > 2:26:53album. That was a lovely idea, one of the best I had ever had. Thank

2:26:53 > 2:27:02you, Rich.Are you running off? Careful in those shoes!And she is

2:27:02 > 2:27:06gone... Still running. Time to get the news, the travel wherever you

2:27:06 > 2:30:30are watching us.

2:30:36 > 2:30:43Hello, this is Breakfast, with Dan Walker and Louise Minchin.

2:30:43 > 2:30:46Let's bring you up to date with the main stories around this morning,

2:30:46 > 2:30:50and we will have an update on the Ashes in a moment.

2:30:50 > 2:30:53An alleged terror attack aimed at killing the Prime Minister

2:30:53 > 2:30:55and bombing Downing Street has been foiled by security services.

2:30:55 > 2:30:57Two men are due to appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court

2:30:57 > 2:31:00later accused of terror offences, one of them in connection

2:31:00 > 2:31:04to the plot against Theresa May.

2:31:04 > 2:31:06The head of MI5 briefed the Government yesterday about nine

2:31:06 > 2:31:10alleged terror plots that have been prevented since March this year.

2:31:10 > 2:31:12Earlier, security expert Will Geddes told us how these

2:31:12 > 2:31:14numbers illustrate the pressure security services and

2:31:14 > 2:31:21the police are under.

2:31:21 > 2:31:23The White House says President Trump is to recognise Jerusalem

2:31:23 > 2:31:26as the capital of Israel and will direct the State Department

2:31:26 > 2:31:29to begin the process of moving the US embassy there from Tel Aviv.

2:31:29 > 2:31:32But Arab leaders have warned it could provoke violence in the Muslim

2:31:32 > 2:31:35world and the Foreign Secretary, Boris Johnson, said the UK viewed

2:31:35 > 2:31:40the reports with concern.

2:31:40 > 2:31:42Our Middle East correspondent Yolande Knell joins us live

2:31:42 > 2:31:48from our Jerusalem bureau now.

2:31:48 > 2:31:53Explained if you would the significance of all of this.Well,

2:31:53 > 2:31:59this is a big break on decades of international consensus and US

2:31:59 > 2:32:03foreign policy which has basically said that the final status of

2:32:03 > 2:32:07Jerusalem should be decided in a negotiated peace deal between Israel

2:32:07 > 2:32:10and the Palestinians. And that is because although Israel sees all of

2:32:10 > 2:32:16Jerusalem as its eternal, undivided capital, the seat of its government

2:32:16 > 2:32:20with 3000 years of Jewish history, the Palestinians want East

2:32:20 > 2:32:24Jerusalem, where many Palestinians live, as the capital of their future

2:32:24 > 2:32:29state. East Jerusalem was captured by Israel just 50 years ago in the

2:32:29 > 2:32:34war from Jordan, and then Israel annexed it in a booth that has not

2:32:34 > 2:32:38been recognised internationally. And so that is why, at the moment, all

2:32:38 > 2:32:45foreign countries keep their embassies in Tel Aviv. Israeli

2:32:45 > 2:32:48leaders will see this as the US, their close ally, correcting what

2:32:48 > 2:32:55they see as an historic injustice, but the Palace star -- the

2:32:55 > 2:32:59Palestinians and others have been warning this could have dangerous

2:32:59 > 2:33:01consequences, they say it could inflame religious tensions because

2:33:01 > 2:33:07it involves the old city, where you have religious sites holy for

2:33:07 > 2:33:10Muslims, dues and Christians, and also because this could undermining

2:33:10 > 2:33:18any hopes that Mr Trump has the ultimate deal of securing peace

2:33:18 > 2:33:20between Israel and the Palestinians.

2:33:20 > 2:33:22Banks should end all unauthorised overdraft charges

2:33:22 > 2:33:24because they are trapping people in persistent debt,

2:33:24 > 2:33:27the financial charity StepChange has said.

2:33:27 > 2:33:30It says two million people in the UK used their overdraft facility

2:33:30 > 2:33:31every month last year.

2:33:31 > 2:33:34The organisation wants banks and regulators to do more

2:33:34 > 2:33:38to identify people caught up in a "vicious cycle of borrowing".

2:33:38 > 2:33:41Tens of thousands of people have been forced to flee from the path

2:33:41 > 2:33:44of wildfires in southern California.

2:33:44 > 2:33:47Hundreds of buildings have been destroyed by the blazes and several

2:33:47 > 2:33:50thousand homes are under mandatory evacuation in the cities

2:33:50 > 2:33:56of Ventura and Santa Paula, north of Los Angeles.

2:33:56 > 2:33:59California has been hit hard by wildfires in recent months.

2:33:59 > 2:34:02At least 40 people were killed when fires ripped through parts

2:34:02 > 2:34:09of northern California's wine region in October.

2:34:09 > 2:34:11Christine Keeler, the model at the centre of the Profumo

2:34:11 > 2:34:14affair of the 1960s, has died at the age of 75.

2:34:14 > 2:34:17She became famous after it emerged she'd had an affair

2:34:17 > 2:34:18with both the Conservative minister John Profumo

2:34:18 > 2:34:21and with a Russian diplomat at the height of the Cold War.

2:34:21 > 2:34:24The scandal was considered by many to be the downfall

2:34:24 > 2:34:33of the Macmillan government.

2:34:39 > 2:34:42And coming up here on Breakfast this morning.

2:34:42 > 2:34:44Do schools do enough to support young people who are also caring

2:34:44 > 2:34:46for a sick or disabled relative?

2:34:46 > 2:34:48We're talking to a young carer and her mum about

2:34:48 > 2:34:49the difficulties they face.

2:34:49 > 2:34:51Florence and the Machine and George Ezra are just

2:34:51 > 2:34:55two of the artists who were helped onto a world stage thanks to

2:34:55 > 2:34:59the BBC Music Introducing platform.

2:34:59 > 2:35:03And this morning we have Radio 2 DJ Jo Whiley with us to reveal

2:35:03 > 2:35:06who is 2017's Artist of the Year.

2:35:06 > 2:35:09And the Turner Prize was announced last night.

2:35:09 > 2:35:12Lubaina Himid has become both the oldest winner and the first

2:35:12 > 2:35:13black woman to take the prize.

2:35:13 > 2:35:24We're talking to her later about making history.

2:35:27 > 2:35:33Sonali is here, no congratulations for the England side in the cricket.

2:35:33 > 2:35:38Only Australia, I have seen something on Twitter, forget Brexit,

2:35:38 > 2:35:42let's Ozit. I do not think it is that there, all England have to do

2:35:42 > 2:35:48is win at the wacko, which I have not done since the 1970s. -- the

2:35:48 > 2:35:50Waca.

2:35:50 > 2:35:52So England are now two down in the Ashes.

2:35:52 > 2:35:55It took about an hour and 45 minutes for England's six remaining batsmen

2:35:55 > 2:35:56to go down in Adelaide.

2:35:56 > 2:35:59Chris Woakes was out from the second ball of the day.

2:35:59 > 2:36:01Captain Joe Root quickly followed without adding

2:36:01 > 2:36:02to his overnight score.

2:36:02 > 2:36:04And the wickets just kept tumbling.

2:36:04 > 2:36:08Jonny Bairstow was the last man to go, England all out for 233.

2:36:08 > 2:36:18The Australians win the Second Test by 120 runs.

2:36:19 > 2:36:24The way that we went about the second innings shows we are

2:36:24 > 2:36:27massively still in this series, it is as simple as that. We have shown

2:36:27 > 2:36:32throughout the two games that we can outperform Australia, but just not

2:36:32 > 2:36:37for five days, and that is going to be our challenge, really. If we get

2:36:37 > 2:36:41that right and we can perform to our ability for longer periods of time,

2:36:41 > 2:36:46then we will win games, simple as that.This morning, coming to the

2:36:46 > 2:36:50game, I thought, if we get one or two wickets before the new ball,

2:36:50 > 2:36:55only 18 wickets away at the start of the play, and hundreds 80 runs was a

2:36:55 > 2:36:59lot of runs, so very pleasing that Josh was able to do what he did this

2:36:59 > 2:37:04morning. I thought is length was exceptional, and to get the wicket

2:37:04 > 2:37:08of Root really put us in a good position, and I could breathe a

2:37:08 > 2:37:12little bit more easily then.

2:37:12 > 2:37:14In non-Ashes news, Chelsea slipped up to finish second

2:37:14 > 2:37:16in their Champions League group.

2:37:16 > 2:37:18They now risk being drawn against one of the favourites

2:37:18 > 2:37:19in the knockout stage.

2:37:19 > 2:37:21They were behind against Spanish side Atletico Madrid,

2:37:21 > 2:37:24but equalised thanks to an own goal in the second half.

2:37:24 > 2:37:28They could now face Barcelona or Paris Saint-Germain in the last 16.

2:37:28 > 2:37:30Manchester United finish top of their group

2:37:30 > 2:37:33and make the knockout stage for the first time in three years.

2:37:33 > 2:37:39Marcus Rashford was on target in a 2-1 win over CSKA Moscow.

2:37:39 > 2:37:41Celtic have qualified for the Europa League,

2:37:41 > 2:37:47despite losing 1-0 to Belgian side Anderlecht.

2:37:47 > 2:37:50The Scottish champions knew they had to avoid defeat by three goals

2:37:50 > 2:37:57or more to seal third place in Group B.

2:37:57 > 2:38:01The good news is that the directors have seven days off now to regroup,

2:38:01 > 2:38:07gather their heads and comeback.-- the cricketers.

2:38:07 > 2:38:12The maths are simple, it is possible it might that is all we need for a

2:38:12 > 2:38:14bit of hope!

2:38:14 > 2:38:17The family of a seriously ill woman who was kept alive

2:38:17 > 2:38:19against her wishes have succeeded in changing the way the hospital

2:38:19 > 2:38:21trust responsible stores records of living wills.

2:38:21 > 2:38:23Brenda Grant was artificially fed for nearly two years after

2:38:23 > 2:38:26a severe stroke left her unable to communicate, despite making

2:38:26 > 2:38:34a written statement to say it wasn't what she wanted.

2:38:34 > 2:38:38We are going to talk about that story, but we are going to wait

2:38:38 > 2:38:42while we get our guests ready. We will talk about that in a moment or

2:38:42 > 2:38:47so. We are going to talk about the flu season, because doctors are

2:38:47 > 2:38:50urging vulnerable people do have their vaccine, because this year it

2:38:50 > 2:38:55could be more important than ever. Australia has just been through a

2:38:55 > 2:38:58particularly bad flu period, and some scientists are warning it could

2:38:58 > 2:39:03mean a tough season for us as well. In a moment, we will talk about the

2:39:03 > 2:39:06search for a new vaccine, but our Sydney correspondent as more from

2:39:06 > 2:39:12Australia.

2:39:12 > 2:39:16Mark knows first-hand just how hard the flu virus hit Australia this

2:39:16 > 2:39:21year, as does his wife and their four children. Every single one of

2:39:21 > 2:39:33them became ill.And then Zach and then dad, and then mum and then me.

2:39:33 > 2:39:37It really knocked us back, we were in bed for two or three days, very

2:39:37 > 2:39:42difficult if you have got kids, they are at preschool and school.This

2:39:42 > 2:39:47family were not alone. 2017 saw a 50% rise in flu cases across

2:39:47 > 2:39:53Australia. It wasn't a pandemic, but there was an increase in deaths -

2:39:53 > 2:39:57most amongst the elderly. The season is now over, Australia is heading

2:39:57 > 2:40:00towards and summer, and doctors are left wondering why this year was so

2:40:00 > 2:40:04bad and what, if anything, it means for people living in the northern

2:40:04 > 2:40:09hemisphere. This professor has been tracking the clinical data for

2:40:09 > 2:40:13Australia - one of the key concerns here is that this you's vaccine

2:40:13 > 2:40:18didn't work well.The vaccine that we had this season was poorly

2:40:18 > 2:40:21affective invulnerable people, and so with healthy people, it was

2:40:21 > 2:40:26perhaps 40% effective, but in elderly people, it worked quite

2:40:26 > 2:40:31poorly.As it arrives in the UK, the virus won't necessarily have the

2:40:31 > 2:40:36same impact - it is constantly changing and mutating, but families

2:40:36 > 2:40:39are being warned it could be at our winter in the northern hemisphere.

2:40:39 > 2:40:45John Maguire takes up the story. Here in Oxford, researchers are

2:40:45 > 2:40:48working on a new universal flu vaccine, one that doesn't have to be

2:40:48 > 2:40:53remade every winter. It is a game changer, and they have just added

2:40:53 > 2:41:01human trials. The study is now full for this year. Scientists are

2:41:01 > 2:41:05recruiting 2000 over 65-year-olds and will monitor them for two years.

2:41:05 > 2:41:10It is the first big trial of its kind. All are having their flu jab

2:41:10 > 2:41:15as normal, but some are receiving the new vaccine.We have to keep

2:41:15 > 2:41:19changing what is in the vaccine, because the virus keeps mutating

2:41:19 > 2:41:23every year, and we have to keep changing to keep up with it. But if

2:41:23 > 2:41:27we can get an immune response to work against the parts of the virus

2:41:27 > 2:41:31that do not change, the vaccine can be universal and work against all

2:41:31 > 2:41:34influenza strains, and it may last longer than one year.Experts are

2:41:34 > 2:41:39divided on whether or not a bad winter flu season in Australia means

2:41:39 > 2:41:45the same year, and vaccines normally work around half the time. Doctors,

2:41:45 > 2:41:49though, say at the moment it is the best protection we have. It is a

2:41:49 > 2:41:54question of protecting society,and although somebody may feel they are

2:41:54 > 2:41:57physically strong enough to fight it off, their neighbour or someone at

2:41:57 > 2:42:02work may have a disability, lung disease, and we want to protect them

2:42:02 > 2:42:06as well.And as the vaccination continues at a pace, so far this

2:42:06 > 2:42:12season of Luna bars have been low. But as Australia experienced, flu

2:42:12 > 2:42:16outbreaks can quickly become very serious and very difficult to fight.

2:42:16 > 2:42:20John Maguire, BBC News.

2:42:20 > 2:42:23The family of a seriously ill woman who was kept alive

2:42:23 > 2:42:26against her wishes have succeeded in changing the way the hospital

2:42:26 > 2:42:29trust responsible stores records of living wills.

2:42:29 > 2:42:32Brenda Grant was artificially fed for nearly two years after

2:42:32 > 2:42:36a severe stroke left her unable to communicate, despite making

2:42:36 > 2:42:41a written statement to say it wasn't what she wanted.

2:42:41 > 2:42:45The trust misfiled the will and her family were unaware it existed.

2:42:45 > 2:42:53Michele Paduano has been to meet her family.

2:42:53 > 2:42:57Sitting at home watching the family album is tinged with sadness for

2:42:57 > 2:43:01Tracy Barker. She didn't know that her mum, Brenda Granth, had made a

2:43:01 > 2:43:05living will, and that is why she was trying to pull out feeding tubes

2:43:05 > 2:43:10following a catastrophic stroke. Unable to talk, walk or swallow, she

2:43:10 > 2:43:16was fed through her stunning and kept alive for nearly two years.

2:43:16 > 2:43:21Nobody wants them mum to die, but she died the day she had the stroke,

2:43:21 > 2:43:26because she was never capable of doing what she did before. And I

2:43:26 > 2:43:29know she would not have wanted to live like she was.For the lawyers

2:43:29 > 2:43:34representing the family, the case was a conundrum. Although Brenda had

2:43:34 > 2:43:37been wronged, how much compensation should there be for keeping someone

2:43:37 > 2:43:41alive?They force-fed her with a feeding tube, operated on her to

2:43:41 > 2:43:46provide nutrition to her intestines, all of which was against her wishes.

2:43:46 > 2:43:50The directive says that she feared the degradation and embarrassment of

2:43:50 > 2:43:55that scenario more than she feared death itself.The hospital in

2:43:55 > 2:43:59Nuneaton has accepted it failed to store the living will in a way that

2:43:59 > 2:44:04meant it could be easily found. Does apologised and paid £45,000. It is

2:44:04 > 2:44:08now registering living wills on the front pages of patient notes.All

2:44:08 > 2:44:12hospitals should be doing this, because people are going to live

2:44:12 > 2:44:15longer.Michaela Tabb ten, BBC News.

2:44:15 > 2:44:18Tracy Barker, who you just saw talking about her mum, joins us now,

2:44:18 > 2:44:20along with Eloise Power, a barrister who specialises

2:44:20 > 2:44:26in medical law.

2:44:26 > 2:44:30Let's try to get to the bottom of what a living will is, but thank you

2:44:30 > 2:44:35so much for coming on to talk about this this morning. We heard you

2:44:35 > 2:44:39explain some of the story there, but at what point did you become aware

2:44:39 > 2:44:42that your mother had this will in place but nobody seemed to know

2:44:42 > 2:44:47about it?We became aware of it in the May before she died, so it was

2:44:47 > 2:44:53like 20 months probably into her treatment. The nursing home found it

2:44:53 > 2:44:57and made me aware of it, and I made our GPO aware of it, then followed

2:44:57 > 2:45:03it through.And up until the point, you had no idea what her wishes

2:45:03 > 2:45:07were?We thought that she would have done something like this, and we did

2:45:07 > 2:45:11fight when they wanted to put the peg in not to have it put in, but

2:45:11 > 2:45:15the hospital just kept saying that if she had not got a living will,

2:45:15 > 2:45:25they couldn't do anything other than treat her. But she hadn't got it.

2:45:25 > 2:45:29It is such a thing to have gone through. Let's talk for a moment

2:45:29 > 2:45:35about the legal implications. A living will is a statement of your

2:45:35 > 2:45:40wishes, isn't it?Yes, it is properly known as an advanced

2:45:40 > 2:45:44decision, and it is a legal capacity document under the Mental Health

2:45:44 > 2:45:48Act. The idea is that you make a decision to refuse specific kinds of

2:45:48 > 2:45:52medical treatment at a time when you have capacity, so when you are of

2:45:52 > 2:45:57sound mind. That decision then comes into effect in the future if and

2:45:57 > 2:46:03when you come to lack capacity. And some practical examples of the kinds

2:46:03 > 2:46:08of medical treatment that people might wish to refuse include

2:46:08 > 2:46:11resuscitation, they include artificial hydration and nutrition,

2:46:11 > 2:46:15as in the case of Brenda Brand that we have just talked about, and they

2:46:15 > 2:46:20also include treatment that people might have religious objections to,

2:46:20 > 2:46:23such as blood transfusions in some cases. And it is important to be

2:46:23 > 2:46:26aware that as the law stands at present, living wills can only

2:46:26 > 2:46:32enable you to refuse treatment. You can't demand particular treatments

2:46:32 > 2:46:38under a living will. You don't need a solicitor to make a living will.

2:46:38 > 2:46:43You can make one yourself. There are freely downloadable forms from

2:46:43 > 2:46:48organisations such as Compassion In Dying, the legal requirements are

2:46:48 > 2:46:55that they have to be in writing, signed and witnessed.I'm sure you

2:46:55 > 2:46:59know all this now, Tracy, investigating if yourself. You have

2:46:59 > 2:47:02successfully sued the hospital, and I know it is not about the money for

2:47:02 > 2:47:07you, but does that in some way help your family? How do you communicate

2:47:07 > 2:47:13about it now?What is more important to me is the fact that the hospital

2:47:13 > 2:47:17have admitted the liability and that they have apologised, and they have

2:47:17 > 2:47:21also change their process. That is the most important thing to me.So

2:47:21 > 2:47:26no one has to go again through what you have been through.Hopefully

2:47:26 > 2:47:30not, no. I just want in this day of technology, why it can't just be on

2:47:30 > 2:47:37a computer instead of tucked away in notes.And Eloise, that was the

2:47:37 > 2:47:40thing for you, you didn't know about this, so if people are thinking

2:47:40 > 2:47:44about making living wills, how do they make sure that their relatives

2:47:44 > 2:47:49and all the important people that need-to-know do know?First of all,

2:47:49 > 2:47:53I think Brenda grant's case raises an important policy issue. There

2:47:53 > 2:47:57should be a national database or register of living wills, a kin to

2:47:57 > 2:48:01the National organ donation register, and I think this would be

2:48:01 > 2:48:04of profound importance both the doctors working on the ground and

2:48:04 > 2:48:09for families that have to go through what this family had to go through,

2:48:09 > 2:48:13and hopefully it would increase uptake of living wills. At present,

2:48:13 > 2:48:19only 5% of adults in the UK have a living will, and looking at the

2:48:19 > 2:48:24bigger picture, we do need to encourage our elderly population to

2:48:24 > 2:48:29confront the challenges of later life. On a practical level, if

2:48:29 > 2:48:33people have already made a living well, what can they do? I would

2:48:33 > 2:48:37advise people to do three things. First of all, ensure that your

2:48:37 > 2:48:42doctors know about it. Ask your GP to put it in the GP records. Ask

2:48:42 > 2:48:46your hospital doctors to put it on the hospital records. Second, tell

2:48:46 > 2:48:50your loved ones, tell your family and friends, give them a copy of the

2:48:50 > 2:48:55living will, preferably give it a more than one person. Third, if you

2:48:55 > 2:48:58have a solicitor, give your solicitor a copy of your living will

2:48:58 > 2:49:02as well.Extremely good advice. Louise Power, thank you very much

2:49:02 > 2:49:13indeed. And thank you for talking to us. Carol has been running about.

2:49:13 > 2:49:17Hopefully she is a bit more static now! Sorry for making you go on that

2:49:17 > 2:49:22spread earlier. But I think the viewers enjoyed it.

2:49:22 > 2:49:28I was jolly grateful, it is -10 in here! Inside the magical ice

2:49:28 > 2:49:33kingdom, it is stunning, as I said. It is -10 but it is part of winter

2:49:33 > 2:49:37wonderland in London, and look at these ice sculptures. The detail of

2:49:37 > 2:49:41the angelfish at the back, and also this school of fish right in front

2:49:41 > 2:49:46of me. They are all handcrafted, they start making these way back in

2:49:46 > 2:49:50April, we have a snow sculpture, and then back into the ice sculptures,

2:49:50 > 2:49:55which you can see, an octopus, other kinds of fish as well. There are

2:49:55 > 2:49:59over 250 ice sculptures in here, and the clear ice is made by removing

2:49:59 > 2:50:04all the minerals and bubbles from normal water. On the other side,

2:50:04 > 2:50:08look at this huge sculpture of a submarine, and again, surrounded by

2:50:08 > 2:50:13sharks and dolphins, and also by these deep sea divers. It is quite

2:50:13 > 2:50:17stunning, but if you are coming down, wrap up warmly, you will need

2:50:17 > 2:50:21to. Outside it is mild, the temperature in London is currently

2:50:21 > 2:50:2610 Celsius, so it is a good 20 degrees drop coming in here. For

2:50:26 > 2:50:30many of us today, the forecast is mild. We have some wind across the

2:50:30 > 2:50:33whole of the UK developing across the course of the

2:50:33 > 2:50:34whole of the UK developing across the course of the day, and also some

2:50:34 > 2:50:38rain in the forecast. The rain already making progress across

2:50:38 > 2:50:42north-west Scotland, accompanied by gusty winds, very strong across the

2:50:42 > 2:50:45North, and again you can see a lot of dry weather as we move into the

2:50:45 > 2:50:51east and south. For Northern England, are largely dry start, a

2:50:51 > 2:50:56lot of cloud around, brighter skies in the north-east, and for the rest

2:50:56 > 2:50:59of England, fairly cloudy. The cloud will be thick enough here and

2:50:59 > 2:51:03therefore some showers, especially with a bit of height, and here and

2:51:03 > 2:51:06there, too, we will see a little brightness develop, but most of us

2:51:06 > 2:51:12won't. We are looking at a lot of cloud, and one or two showers, and

2:51:12 > 2:51:19one or two brighter breaks, also rather wet and windy in Northern

2:51:19 > 2:51:26Ireland. Through the day, the rain continues to move across Scotland,

2:51:26 > 2:51:28Northern Ireland, getting into northern England, but for the rest

2:51:28 > 2:51:32of England and Wales, it will remain cloudy with the odd shower, and

2:51:32 > 2:51:39again the odd bright spell, but it will be mild. Temperatures 10-12dC.

2:51:39 > 2:51:43Somewhere across the north coast of Northern Ireland could hit 13, maybe

2:51:43 > 2:51:53a little bit more. Then through the evening and overnight, the wind will

2:51:53 > 2:51:55continue to strengthen, cooler conditions coming in behind. By the

2:51:55 > 2:51:59end of the night, gales in the West, and storm Caroline will be showing

2:51:59 > 2:52:05her hand across north-west Scotland. Storm force winds, and tomorrow it

2:52:05 > 2:52:10is going to be moving from the west to east across Scotland. The

2:52:10 > 2:52:16strongest winds always in the far north, but we'll is expected to be

2:52:16 > 2:52:20extremely windy. As well as that we will have snow coming down to lower

2:52:20 > 2:52:24levels, and that could mean blizzards. Northern Ireland, England

2:52:24 > 2:52:28and Wales, the weather rattles through quickly, then back to

2:52:28 > 2:52:37sunshine and showers. Friday starts off with some snow showers across

2:52:37 > 2:52:41Scotland, Northern Ireland, north-west England and North Wales.

2:52:41 > 2:52:45They will be blown inland through the course of the day, but they are

2:52:45 > 2:52:49showers so not all of us will see them. On Friday it will feel even

2:52:49 > 2:52:53colder than tomorrow. Then as we head into the weekend, snow showers

2:52:53 > 2:52:57on Saturday for some of us and we could see some significant snow on

2:52:57 > 2:53:02Sunday from the Midlands North. Largely on higher ground. But that

2:53:02 > 2:53:05could change, so do keeping that with the weather forecast,

2:53:05 > 2:53:11especially so if you are on the move on Sunday, because it could change.

2:53:16 > 2:53:21Carol, thank you very much indeed, we will let you go and warmer.

2:53:21 > 2:53:24Childhood should be a carefree time of life free from stress and worry.

2:53:24 > 2:53:26However that's not the case for thousands of young carers tasked

2:53:26 > 2:53:30with looking after sick or disabled family members.

2:53:30 > 2:53:32Now the leading children's charity Barnardo's says that schools

2:53:32 > 2:53:34are failing to identify and support a generation of children

2:53:34 > 2:53:38who take care of loved ones.

2:53:38 > 2:53:45Joining us to discuss the issue is Lindsey and her daughter Maisy

2:53:45 > 2:53:48who is her carer and Fiona Wright, from St Antony's Catholic

2:53:48 > 2:53:58College in Urmston.

2:54:00 > 2:54:04Lindsey, let's start with you, tell us about how Maisy and her older

2:54:04 > 2:54:09sister look after you. When I was diagnosed with heart

2:54:09 > 2:54:12failure, I didn't know initially but I was very unwell after having my

2:54:12 > 2:54:20daughter. I was getting really unwell, gaining lots of weight,

2:54:20 > 2:54:25couldn't walk, couldn't eat, couldn't sleep. My eldest daughter

2:54:25 > 2:54:30and Maisy were getting me dressed. They were putting food in the slow

2:54:30 > 2:54:35cooker, and then going to school. They were running to the shops, bath

2:54:35 > 2:54:41in babies, doing nappies, lots of stuff that, they were doing my job,

2:54:41 > 2:54:44basically. And she was going to school and not telling people what

2:54:44 > 2:54:49was going on at home, because I hadn't told anybody, and my doctor

2:54:49 > 2:54:54was like, you need to go to hospital, and I said, I can't, I

2:54:54 > 2:54:59have got kids. And after about eight months, my doctor said, Lindsey, you

2:54:59 > 2:55:03need to go to hospital, something is right, and they thought I had

2:55:03 > 2:55:09ovarian cancer, and she sent me in. My babies went into foster care, and

2:55:09 > 2:55:13Maisy and her sisters went to their dad's in London, and the following

2:55:13 > 2:55:18day they said, it is not looking good for you, and I said, OK, so I

2:55:18 > 2:55:23called my auntie, and my mum turned up, and they said, why didn't you

2:55:23 > 2:55:26tell us, and I said, I didn't want to tell anyone, and it went from

2:55:26 > 2:55:32there. My little superstar.And Maisy, you have been so important to

2:55:32 > 2:55:37your mum. What do you remember about those times, and what kind of things

2:55:37 > 2:55:43were you doing for your mum?Making dinners with my big sister, going

2:55:43 > 2:55:53the shop and sometimes putting them to bed.And how all the weather at

2:55:53 > 2:55:58the time?You were ten and Katie was 12. They don't do too much now, but

2:55:58 > 2:56:01they still put the babies to bed because the baby step like me doing

2:56:01 > 2:56:10it any more! They still Bath the babies as well, because they don't

2:56:10 > 2:56:14like me doing that.And Maisy, tell us about how Barnardo's have helped.

2:56:14 > 2:56:25What sort of things have you been doing?For the first time we did a

2:56:25 > 2:56:34salon and we got our herons nails done.That is a great fun day out.

2:56:34 > 2:56:41Your hair luck scraped today, I like the tinsel.And you are going

2:56:41 > 2:56:46-- your hair looks nice today.And they are going to the trampoline

2:56:46 > 2:56:51park tomorrow.And Lindsay was bringing up some of the points,

2:56:51 > 2:56:55Fiona. There will be a lot of children going to school who are

2:56:55 > 2:56:58taking on-board enormous responsibilities at a young age, and

2:56:58 > 2:57:02school don't necessarily know. Should you be looking out for

2:57:02 > 2:57:07children like that?We are looking out for children, what Maisie is

2:57:07 > 2:57:10doing is an amazing thing, and I think what the issue is we don't

2:57:10 > 2:57:16always know about it, and it is that that has come out of the report,

2:57:16 > 2:57:21which is quite critical of schools not supporting children, but to me

2:57:21 > 2:57:24the issue that comes out more than anything else is we don't know all

2:57:24 > 2:57:28the time. There is no systematic way of a school finding out whether the

2:57:28 > 2:57:33child as a young carer, it is not in any documentation, it can be a trial

2:57:33 > 2:57:38breaks down in school, something happens and then we find out, but

2:57:38 > 2:57:42there is no systematic way of us finding out, so there are two macro

2:57:42 > 2:57:45elements, finding out in the first place but then once we find out what

2:57:45 > 2:57:51support we can put in place for both of those.And there are practical

2:57:51 > 2:57:54issues, she presumably gets the same amount of homework is anyone else at

2:57:54 > 2:57:57school?My eldest daughter didn't tell anyone at school what she was

2:57:57 > 2:58:02doing at home, and I kept saying, your homework is going to suffer,

2:58:02 > 2:58:05your work is going to suffer, and they went to parents evening last

2:58:05 > 2:58:10week, she is now year nine, and they told me that the teachers had no

2:58:10 > 2:58:14idea, it has been going on for a year and a half and they had no

2:58:14 > 2:58:17idea, and they said it is nice to know what's going on at home, and

2:58:17 > 2:58:23they can give her that extra support that she needs. Maisy's school

2:58:23 > 2:58:26where, because they have staff meetings and I contact the School on

2:58:26 > 2:58:31a regular basis, and they are very supportive.For everybody it is

2:58:31 > 2:58:36individual, but what sort of things can you help with?When a child

2:58:36 > 2:58:40comes to you with whatever issue, so it could be mental well-being,

2:58:40 > 2:58:44domestic violence in the home, anything. It is what that child

2:58:44 > 2:58:49knees, so it is this Poke young carers. Again, they will all be

2:58:49 > 2:58:56different, so it could be that some child might need some support and a

2:58:56 > 2:59:01reduction in her work. There was a young carer that we have only 11,

2:59:01 > 2:59:04and she would be devastated if I told her to do less work because she

2:59:04 > 2:59:08has high aspirations and she doesn't want to do less, so it would depend

2:59:08 > 2:59:12on what they need, but definitely signposting to someone like

2:59:12 > 2:59:16Barnardo's. There are not a lot of local provision for young carers as

2:59:16 > 2:59:19there has been in the past, but there isn't as much local provision

2:59:19 > 2:59:24any more, so signposting is very useful.Have you heard of the

2:59:24 > 2:59:30musical The Cat In The Hat? My children have done the musical at

2:59:30 > 2:59:37their school, and one of the songs is called Amazing Maisy, and I can

2:59:37 > 2:59:39tell them that I have met one!

2:59:40 > 2:59:42Children and Families Minister Robert Goodwill said:

2:59:42 > 2:59:44We recognise the enormous contribution that young carers make

2:59:44 > 2:59:47and we know that schools play a very important part in identifying pupils

2:59:47 > 2:59:49who are young carers and offering them appropriate support.

2:59:49 > 2:59:51The joint Carers Trust and Children's Society Young Carers

2:59:51 > 2:59:53in Schools Programme is important to help identify young

2:59:53 > 2:59:55carers among teachers, nonteaching staff and school nurses

2:59:55 > 2:59:57to ensure that individuals get the support they need.

2:59:57 > 3:00:02Great to talk to you all. You might like this next article.

3:00:04 > 3:00:06The winner of this year's Turner Prize was announced

3:00:06 > 3:00:07in Hull last night.

3:00:07 > 3:00:10And Lubaina Himid has become both the oldest winner

3:00:10 > 3:00:13and the first ever black woman to take the award.

3:00:13 > 3:00:15The prestigious prize was given to the 63-year-old

3:00:15 > 3:00:17Zanzibar-born artist for her work addressing racial politics

3:00:17 > 3:00:19and the legacy of slavery.

3:00:19 > 3:00:21We'll be chatting to Lubaina in a moment,

3:00:21 > 3:00:22but first let's see her winning moment.

3:00:22 > 3:00:29MUSIC PLAYS

3:00:35 > 3:00:42The winner of this year's Turner Prize is Lubaina Himid.

3:00:42 > 3:00:47CHEESE AND APPLAUSE

3:01:03 > 3:01:07Lovely to see that, and I am delighted to say that Lubaina joins

3:01:07 > 3:01:13us now. How does that feel? Congratulations, after so many years

3:01:13 > 3:01:19of hard work.Oh, well, thank you very much, even this morning it

3:01:19 > 3:01:22feels amazing.We were saying you were a bit of a record breaker, the

3:01:22 > 3:01:27oldest winner of the prize and the first-ever black woman to win the

3:01:27 > 3:01:32prize, you are making new ground. Yeah, so it seems, I don't feel that

3:01:32 > 3:01:37old, I have to say! The usual thing, I kind of feel 20 years younger than

3:01:37 > 3:01:43I am, so it is peculiar to be talked about in that way, but I can go with

3:01:43 > 3:01:49it.Tell us a little bit about the work that you put into winning this,

3:01:49 > 3:01:53yesterday we had our Tinie Tempah three, children judging the award,

3:01:53 > 3:02:03they really liked your stuff. -- Tiny Turner.I collected 100 plates

3:02:03 > 3:02:07and durians and jugs in order to make the Lancaster dinner service,

3:02:07 > 3:02:13and I was trying to show how the slave trade at, shall we say,

3:02:13 > 3:02:20contributed to the wealth of many of our cities. So I painted people

3:02:20 > 3:02:27rather angry at the abolition of the slave trade, other people absolutely

3:02:27 > 3:02:33joyous, and one or two, maybe 30 of those plates were painted with

3:02:33 > 3:02:42figures of African slaves and servants. I am just trying to really

3:02:42 > 3:02:46illustrates the contribution that black people have made to the

3:02:46 > 3:02:51cultural landscape, to the British political landscape, and also fill

3:02:51 > 3:02:54in some of the gaps that don't get talked about, don't get written

3:02:54 > 3:02:58about.I wonder whether you feel your work has been overlooked for

3:02:58 > 3:03:02many years and this is the recognition that... I know you are

3:03:02 > 3:03:06not doing this for recognition, but it is important that it has been

3:03:06 > 3:03:12recognised.In a way, it has, there are groups, there are essays, lots

3:03:12 > 3:03:16of discussion in art circles about the work, lots of artists and

3:03:16 > 3:03:25curators and art historians know it, but yeah, not many people on

3:03:25 > 3:03:28television have talked about it, or in the newspapers, so in that way it

3:03:28 > 3:03:31is overlooked. And because I am interested in a lot of people

3:03:31 > 3:03:33looking at the work, and it being about being able to discuss these

3:03:33 > 3:03:38subjects and do something about them, it is important for the work

3:03:38 > 3:03:43to be thought about and argued about in a more public forum.I spoke to

3:03:43 > 3:03:47another Turner prizewinner a few years ago, and they said it was one

3:03:47 > 3:03:51thing to paint a picture or make a sculpture, but it is another thing

3:03:51 > 3:03:55for somebody's attitude to be changed by that. Will people think

3:03:55 > 3:03:59differently based on you winning the prize and looking into you a bit

3:03:59 > 3:04:03more and seeing the motivations behind what you have done?I think

3:04:03 > 3:04:07what might change things is, if they look into my work, they can see that

3:04:07 > 3:04:12there are hundreds and hundreds of really incredible artists working

3:04:12 > 3:04:16today in Britain, and that we are all of us dedicated, even if we are

3:04:16 > 3:04:21not political artists, dedicated to speaking to audiences and having

3:04:21 > 3:04:26conversations with them. We are not trying to be aloof or different or

3:04:26 > 3:04:29special, we are trying to have conversations, and Galleries and

3:04:29 > 3:04:34abuse Ian is the places we do it, and hopefully while they are free,

3:04:34 > 3:04:40those discussions can take place. -- galleries and museums.I hear you

3:04:40 > 3:04:47are spending the prize and is a new shoes, is that right?Indeed!Well,

3:04:47 > 3:04:50enjoy shopping, and enjoy the congratulations, thank you for being

3:04:50 > 3:04:54on Breakfast this morning. Lovely to see you, she deserves a

3:04:54 > 3:04:59lovely pair of shoes as well. Excellent news, how nice to end the

3:04:59 > 3:05:03programme not to end the programme! There is more, a really exciting bit

3:05:03 > 3:05:08coming up! We will be telling you who is the BBC Introducing artist of

3:05:08 > 3:05:14the year, it will be announced live on air. I mentioned she was one of

3:05:14 > 3:05:17my favourites, Jo Whiley will be here a minute.

3:05:17 > 3:05:21Second favourite? Let's not list! At the headlines

3:05:21 > 3:07:00wherever you are this morning!

3:07:04 > 3:07:05For many artists and musicians,

3:07:05 > 3:07:08getting that first break is the hardest step in their career.

3:07:08 > 3:07:11That's why ten years ago the BBC launched a platform to help

3:07:11 > 3:07:15new, unsigned artists to be heard.

3:07:15 > 3:07:19In a moment, we'll be speaking this year's winner

3:07:19 > 3:07:23of the Artist of the Year award.

3:07:23 > 3:07:27Well, Jo Whiley will be doing it! We have just seen him, but never

3:07:27 > 3:07:28mind!

3:07:28 > 3:07:30First let's have a look at some

3:07:30 > 3:07:33of the familiar faces who's careers started out on local BBC radio.

3:07:33 > 3:07:34Hello! My name is Ed Sheeran.

3:07:34 > 3:07:37For BBC Introducing, this is Florence and the Machine.

3:07:37 > 3:07:38Oh, I hope I remember the words.

3:07:38 > 3:07:39We are called Slaves!

3:07:39 > 3:07:41My name is George Ezra.

3:07:41 > 3:07:45Izzy Bizu.

3:07:53 > 3:08:00MUSIC PLAYS

3:08:15 > 3:08:24MUSIC PLAYS

3:08:30 > 3:08:37Some real quality there! Would you like to do the honours?Do I

3:08:37 > 3:08:44officially get to hand it to him? It is really heavy! The BBC Introducing

3:08:44 > 3:08:47artist of the year is Declan McKenna.I think you might have

3:08:47 > 3:08:53known that!I didn't know why I was here! I'm going to put this down, it

3:08:53 > 3:09:00is really heavy.It is a beautiful thing, and you keep it as well.

3:09:00 > 3:09:03Massive congratulations, you have known for a while, how would you

3:09:03 > 3:09:08feel about it?Delighted, yeah, I didn't know what to think at first,

3:09:08 > 3:09:13I didn't have time to register it, but it is amazing, a great thing to

3:09:13 > 3:09:22be a part of, having the support is really cool.I am just going to move

3:09:22 > 3:09:25this around, it looks like it is growing out of your chin! It is very

3:09:25 > 3:09:30impressive. Jo, tell us a little bit about Declan.He is a wonderful

3:09:30 > 3:09:34example of what we do with BBC Introducing, you uploaded music when

3:09:34 > 3:09:39you were 15 years old to the BBC... I feel like I am telling your story,

3:09:39 > 3:09:45you should be doing this!I was about 15, 16, when I first uploaded

3:09:45 > 3:09:51to BBC Introducing, got played on the local radio, then in London,

3:09:51 > 3:09:56then Radio 1 picked it up, Zane

3:09:56 > 3:09:58the local radio, then in London, then Radio 1 picked it up, Zane, and

3:09:58 > 3:10:05it went from there. The support from early on are still continuing.Zane

3:10:05 > 3:10:09being Zane Lowe, obviously. Everybody wants to get their music

3:10:09 > 3:10:13heard, you need a stage to play on, you want people to hear your songs

3:10:13 > 3:10:22coming out of the radio, and that is what we can do With BBC Introducing.

3:10:22 > 3:10:28You have done some major festivals with us, it takes you from being in

3:10:28 > 3:10:33your bedroom making music, and you can go anywhere. It is a wonderful

3:10:33 > 3:10:38thing, I am so passionate about it. I read this ludicrous that that 60%

3:10:38 > 3:10:44of the act that Reading had come through BBC Introducing, which is

3:10:44 > 3:10:49incredible!It is impressive, we just saw Florence, she started with

3:10:49 > 3:10:55Introducing, she headlined Glastonbury, and incredible journey.

3:10:55 > 3:10:59Where did you start, you are writing songs when you were five or six?I

3:10:59 > 3:11:03have been writing for as long as I can be a member.Do you know what

3:11:03 > 3:11:13the first one was?Not at all, not a chance! Probably not worth listening

3:11:13 > 3:11:17to, to be honest. I have always been creative, and it has always been

3:11:17 > 3:11:21something I have really wanted to do, it has never not been a thing

3:11:21 > 3:11:26for me, so yeah, that progression in my life happened naturally and led

3:11:26 > 3:11:31up to...Lots of parents are extremely proud, they love it when

3:11:31 > 3:11:34their children write songs, what were your Szalai?Very supportive, I

3:11:34 > 3:11:42do not know whether they are watching now, I am sure they are.

3:11:42 > 3:11:46They have always been very supportive, my biggest fans, my dad

3:11:46 > 3:11:51used to drive me around when I first started playing shows and stuff. I

3:11:51 > 3:11:55have always been supported by them, very lucky to have them.One of the

3:11:55 > 3:12:00reasons he is so deserving, he did a session for me last year and our

3:12:00 > 3:12:04tiny studio, and he was so commanding, he had all these

3:12:04 > 3:12:08musicians there, but he was in charge of what everyone was doing,

3:12:08 > 3:12:12playing two instruments at once and one point. So much talent in such a

3:12:12 > 3:12:18going person is incredible.Do you play everything on your records?A

3:12:18 > 3:12:23lot of it, I don't play with a band in the studio, on the record I work

3:12:23 > 3:12:28with James Ford, who played some of the stuff, but I try to do as much

3:12:28 > 3:12:36of it as possible, I do a little bit of everything, even if I am not

3:12:36 > 3:12:39particularly good, but you can disguise that on record.What

3:12:39 > 3:12:44instrument were you playing at the same time?I used to have a loop

3:12:44 > 3:12:48paddle, a keyboard and then my guitar, and liked a little pad

3:12:48 > 3:12:55filled with drums and sounds and staff. I never thought it was I was

3:12:55 > 3:12:59particularly good at it, but I did do it, it was a big part of might

3:12:59 > 3:13:05live show for a good few years.For people who don't know your music yet

3:13:05 > 3:13:13- and they will - how would you describe it?Psych tinged guitar

3:13:13 > 3:13:19pop. I am not very good at this! When we saw you at Latitude, so much

3:13:19 > 3:13:25glitter and dazzle, you are really playing it down, but he is really

3:13:25 > 3:13:30dynamic.What are you doing next?I have got a couple of UK tour dates

3:13:30 > 3:13:34at the end of this week, and then we are going to Japan, we have got a

3:13:34 > 3:13:40gig in Tokyo, then taking a month off for Christmas, doing some

3:13:40 > 3:13:44writing and stuff, then touring America from January. It is all

3:13:44 > 3:13:49going.I can see you want to go home, but thank you for coming in!

3:13:49 > 3:13:52You can actually go now!

3:13:52 > 3:13:55You can see Declan receieve his award on The Year In Music 2017

3:13:55 > 3:13:57on BBC Two this Friday at 9pm.

3:13:57 > 3:13:59Charlie and Naga will be here from six o'clock tomorrow

3:13:59 > 3:14:01morning when they'll be joined by Brian Cox

3:14:01 > 3:14:02and Alexander Armstrong.

3:14:02 > 3:14:03Now on BBC One, it's time for Island Medics. Goodbye.