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:00:15. > :00:18.Susie and me. The headlines tonight: Sacked. The school dinner lady who

:00:18. > :00:21.served a pork lunch to a Muslim child.

:00:21. > :00:26.After a year of public criticism and internal upheavals, the Ambulance

:00:26. > :00:30.Service for this region makes a fresh start. Key parts of our plans

:00:30. > :00:34.are aggregated more resources on the road and to patients.

:00:34. > :00:37.Giving nature a helping hand to restore our rivers with eels.

:00:37. > :00:47.And the newest Royal grandparents pay a trip to a soggy Sandringham

:00:47. > :00:52.

:00:52. > :00:56.Flower Show. Hello. A school catering company is

:00:56. > :01:01.standing by its decision tonight to sack a dinner lady after she served

:01:01. > :01:04.a pork dish to a Muslim pupil. Alison Waldock says it was an honest

:01:04. > :01:11.mistake, but she was suspended from work at a primary school in

:01:11. > :01:14.Cambridge when the pupil's parents complained. As part of their

:01:14. > :01:18.beliefs, Muslims are not allowed to eat pork. Mrs Waldock had worked as

:01:18. > :01:23.a dinner lady for 11 years until she was dismissed for gross misconduct.

:01:23. > :01:28.One Muslim group described that as "harsh".

:01:28. > :01:35.The website says the school has a diverse catchment area and that its

:01:35. > :01:39.family speak 28 languages. Today, in a national newspaper, one of its

:01:39. > :01:44.dinner ladies claimed that she lost her job because he accidentally

:01:44. > :01:49.served a Muslim child pork. She says the child pointed at it and she put

:01:49. > :01:58.it on his plate. His parents reportedly complained. Today, some

:01:58. > :02:03.questioned whether she should have lost her job. I think nation -- an

:02:03. > :02:11.explanation and understanding, perhaps. It seems a bit over the

:02:11. > :02:19.top. They should have told her aside, have a chat with her. Just

:02:19. > :02:27.give her a warning. Nobody wait, I'm sure, give a child food that they

:02:27. > :02:34.should not be having for health or religious reasons. I tend to lean on

:02:34. > :02:38.the side of leniency. This was a letter she was sent by her

:02:38. > :02:48.employers. It said the main issue at a disciplinary hearing will be

:02:48. > :02:52.feeding damage to Muslim students. -- pork meat.

:02:52. > :02:56.Allison told me that she was not able to do a television interview

:02:56. > :03:02.today, but that she believes what has happened to her is unfair. A

:03:02. > :03:09.member of the Masonic community disagreed with her sacking, but says

:03:09. > :03:15.there must be more education. could be the Jewish faith or the

:03:15. > :03:22.vegetarian lifestyle, or an allergy to nuts. If it was an allergy, it

:03:22. > :03:25.could be devastating. Alison was implied by a company called

:03:25. > :03:29.Lunchtime UK. It said it would not dismiss an employee because of one

:03:29. > :03:39.honest mistake. Jeanette Wheeler is a specialist in

:03:39. > :03:40.

:03:40. > :03:49.employment law. Is saying it was an accident at the fence? -- at

:03:50. > :03:53.defence. It can be. The question is if this lady being scapegoated?

:03:53. > :03:58.shouldn't the school and the company, should be not be taking

:03:58. > :04:02.responsibility for it? Should they not have systems in place?

:04:02. > :04:05.Certainly. And the school ultimately has a responsibility towards

:04:05. > :04:11.children. So they must have confidence that the caterers are

:04:11. > :04:15.putting in place grid systems. So, they may look at the employer. It is

:04:15. > :04:18.essential that employers set out good practices. It is a health and

:04:18. > :04:23.safety situation here. It is very important that they have checked the

:04:23. > :04:29.situation out. Then, they must make sure that the employees know the

:04:29. > :04:32.rules and know how it operates and so on. And those rules must be very

:04:32. > :04:37.specific. Perhaps the child should be identifiable by wearing a badge

:04:38. > :04:41.or something if they have special requirements. You would expect it to

:04:41. > :04:45.be a straightforward system in place. We do not know exactly what

:04:45. > :04:49.system is in place. But it does seem that something has fallen down

:04:49. > :04:53.somewhere. It is very important that the employer, as part of this

:04:53. > :04:56.investigation, checks out the situation. Have they failed in some

:04:56. > :05:02.way to train people? Or, is that somebody who knew what to do but

:05:02. > :05:06.just did not? This is a person who is taking responsibility for

:05:06. > :05:11.something, right at the bottom of the page. If you have got that

:05:11. > :05:17.responsibility, as you do not be paid accordingly? I think that is

:05:17. > :05:21.our moral as much as a legal question. People say if you have a

:05:21. > :05:24.responsible job, you should be paid accordingly. But we want children to

:05:24. > :05:29.have access to affordable school lunches, so there is always that

:05:29. > :05:36.tension in this particular situation. In these kinds of

:05:36. > :05:40.circumstances, what can this dinner lady now do? She can see to go to an

:05:40. > :05:44.employment tribunal. The employment tribunal will not substitute its own

:05:44. > :05:48.view for that of the employer. Provided they imply has acted

:05:48. > :05:52.reasonably, having investigated all the facts, it will not substitute

:05:52. > :05:59.its own view I say that something was unfair or fair. It will look in

:05:59. > :06:05.some detail at the process that the company followed and also the

:06:05. > :06:14.reasonableness of the claim. That word keeps coming up.

:06:15. > :06:18.Reasonableness. Yes.Becky very much. -- thank you very much.

:06:18. > :06:21.After a rough year, with failures to meet response times and high level

:06:21. > :06:24.resignations, the East of England Ambulance Trust has held its annual

:06:24. > :06:26.public meeting today. The trust has been explaining how it intends to

:06:26. > :06:29.improve performance and regain public trust.

:06:29. > :06:39.An MP who accused water companies of "ripping off customers" has been

:06:39. > :06:39.

:06:39. > :06:42.forced to admit that one of the figures in his report is wrong. --

:06:42. > :06:46.two new interim heads for the East of England Ambulance Service have

:06:46. > :06:50.been brought in, both with senior experience in the NHS. The chairman

:06:50. > :06:58.said there had been 46 applications for the roles and that interviews

:06:58. > :07:01.with to be underweight but wait -- soon be under way. We need to get a

:07:01. > :07:05.team in place and make sure that we immediately begin to turn around

:07:05. > :07:10.something which has taken quite a long while to develop. Issues in a

:07:10. > :07:13.Trust like this do not happen overnight. We are a too big a

:07:13. > :07:19.difference. That is what I have always been committed to in the

:07:19. > :07:25.NHS, making a difference for patients. A public presentation this

:07:25. > :07:30.afternoon was attended by three of the region's MPs. The interim Chief

:07:31. > :07:34.Executive set a course of building public confidence. The aim is to,

:07:34. > :07:40.through proper leadership, to make sure our response to patients is

:07:40. > :07:46.better than it has been. Avril points -- our response to patients

:07:46. > :07:48.should be about timeliness and compassion. Today was also a shop

:07:48. > :07:56.window for the Ambulance Service. They set up a major exhibition of

:07:56. > :07:59.their work. This Trust is actively seeking more community first

:07:59. > :08:05.responders, volunteers trained to provide vital local care while an

:08:05. > :08:08.ambulance is on his way. We provide a training course that change them

:08:08. > :08:14.on everything they need to know to be a first responder and give them

:08:14. > :08:18.the training and the confidence to go out there and to save lives.

:08:18. > :08:21.Volunteers are urgently needed as part of the Trust's determination to

:08:21. > :08:27.listen to its staff more carefully and put more resources on the front

:08:27. > :08:30.nine. -- line.

:08:31. > :08:34.An MP who accused water companies of "ripping off customers" has been

:08:34. > :08:37.forced to admit that one of the figures in his report is wrong.

:08:37. > :08:40.Robert Halfon, the MP for Harlow, claimed that pay and bonuses for

:08:40. > :08:43.directors at Affinity Water had almost doubled over the last four

:08:43. > :08:51.years. The company says the total bill for Director's salaries is

:08:51. > :08:54.actually coming down. It is a report already causing

:08:54. > :09:00.trouble within the industry. It produced figures that show while

:09:00. > :09:03.water bills have got up, executive A and bonuses at the region's water

:09:03. > :09:12.companies had gone up more. In many cases they have doubled in the past

:09:12. > :09:17.five years. Consumers have been let down. It is wrong. One of those

:09:17. > :09:26.companies was Affinity Wattage, which supplies many homes in Essex.

:09:26. > :09:36.It was claimed that while their prices had gone up 16%, their

:09:36. > :09:47.

:09:47. > :09:52.bonuses had almost doubled. However, normally-reliable House Of Commons

:09:52. > :09:59.Library. It is possible they were looking at another company. But he

:09:59. > :10:02.insists that his report is still relevant. I absolutely stand by the

:10:02. > :10:06.thrust of the report, which is that bills have been going up

:10:06. > :10:09.significantly for consumers, right across the eastern region and in a

:10:09. > :10:15.number of companies, directors have been getting a significant amount of

:10:15. > :10:19.renumeration. He says no other company has taken issue with his

:10:19. > :10:22.figures. He will continue his campaign after the summer.

:10:22. > :10:25.Three people have been arrested on suspicion of conspiracy to murder.

:10:25. > :10:29.51-year-old Malcolm Pratt was found seriously injured a fortnight ago at

:10:29. > :10:38.his home at Gorleston in Norfolk. He died last Friday in Addenbrooke's

:10:38. > :10:42.Hospital. Two men and a woman are now being questioned.

:10:42. > :10:45.Inspectors say that more needs to be done to stop violence at a young

:10:45. > :10:48.offenders institution at Hollesley Bay in Suffolk. The report says

:10:48. > :10:50.despite improvements at Warren Hill, the number of violent incidents is

:10:50. > :11:00.very high. Some were serious, with inmates needing hospital treatment.

:11:00. > :11:01.

:11:01. > :11:05.In six months there were 48 attacks on staff.

:11:05. > :11:08.I wonder if you know what a "thankful" village is? It's a

:11:08. > :11:11.village where all the young men who went off to fight during the First

:11:11. > :11:15.World War returned home safely. Across the whole country, there are

:11:15. > :11:18.about 50 thankful villages. And all of them are getting a visit by a

:11:18. > :11:25.charity team of bikers. As Kevin Burch reports, today they made their

:11:25. > :11:32.way to a remote corner of Suffolk. This village is tiny and hidden,

:11:32. > :11:37.most of the time. Apart from those scratching, scoffing, and scuttling

:11:37. > :11:45.past, all is still. There are virtually no amenities. The church

:11:45. > :11:49.is the focal point, but even here, the lighting is provided by oil

:11:49. > :11:58.lamps. But this place is rich in history. It is twice a thankful

:11:58. > :12:01.Village. It is quite unusual. There are only 14 in the country. We said

:12:01. > :12:07.11 of in the First World War and seven in the second, and they all

:12:07. > :12:12.came back. It is especially poignant to this man, who has several links.

:12:12. > :12:17.Her father fought in the First World War. My father worked on the land.

:12:17. > :12:23.That is why he went into the transport battalions. These people

:12:23. > :12:32.were just ordinary people. They were not qualified women first joined up.

:12:32. > :12:39.Aside, locals have grown foods -- outside, locals have gathered to

:12:39. > :12:44.greet the charity bikers. The team finally arrived in numbers today.

:12:44. > :12:48.The group, including this man and his multicoloured beard, set off

:12:48. > :12:57.from Wales five days ago, and this top reprimands the halfway stage in

:12:57. > :13:01.what will be a check of some two point 5000 miles. -- 2500 miles.

:13:01. > :13:06.That is very important. Thank God these young men came back to tell

:13:06. > :13:14.the story of what went on. We needed to know. And these guys came back

:13:14. > :13:17.and told us. APPLAUSE

:13:17. > :13:25.The stock lasted around half an hour, and then they had to leave

:13:25. > :13:28.again. They said the support they have received from the thankful

:13:28. > :13:38.villagers has been overwhelming. They say it is a piece of history

:13:38. > :13:43.

:13:43. > :13:48.Still to come tonight, more evidence that broccoli really is good for

:13:48. > :13:54.you. And we are at a soggy Sandringham Flower Show along with

:13:54. > :13:58.the new Royal grandparents. Our special report tonight is all

:13:58. > :14:04.about eels. Here's a fact. In Europe, the eel population has

:14:04. > :14:08.collapsed by 95 per cent in just 15 years. But things are changing. Five

:14:08. > :14:13.years ago a system was set up to help baby eels - elvers - to travel

:14:13. > :14:16.up the River Great Ouse. It was to ensure a greater chance of survival.

:14:16. > :14:20.In the last year the Environment Agency has reported the highest

:14:20. > :14:24.numbers since the 1970s. Characteristically determined. These

:14:24. > :14:30.squiggly baby eels want nothing more than to migrate, even if it means

:14:30. > :14:33.scaling the dizzy heights of this metal drum. In fact, they are caught

:14:33. > :14:37.in an elver trap, collected each morning and deposited on the other

:14:37. > :14:46.side of these eel-impassable sluice gates. This method helps them get up

:14:46. > :14:49.river and is crucial for their survival. It is really important for

:14:49. > :14:54.them to find the right kind of habitat that the adults like. This

:14:54. > :15:01.tends to make much further up the river. The great news is that it is

:15:01. > :15:05.a really long river and that if they can get up where the density of

:15:05. > :15:10.elvers are lower, there will be a greater good source for them as

:15:10. > :15:14.well. In the past year the catch at Brownshill Sluice in Cambridgeshire

:15:14. > :15:17.has gone up from 1000 to 16000 a day. The slow moving waters of last

:15:17. > :15:25.year's drought have given these poor swimmers a better chance. They could

:15:25. > :15:31.reach a metre in length, and live for 50 years. These little guys were

:15:31. > :15:35.born in the Bermuda Triangle. They then travelled on the Gulf Stream,

:15:35. > :15:39.finally turning into elvers around the coastlines of Europe. How old do

:15:39. > :15:43.you think they are? Three weeks? Three months? They are actually

:15:43. > :15:47.three years old. As natural scavengers, eels keep the river

:15:47. > :15:54.clean. Without them the ecosystem would become unbalanced. Efforts are

:15:54. > :15:59.being made across Europe to prevent extinction. Now single factor is

:15:59. > :16:03.killing them. Because they have such a complex life cycle, so many things

:16:03. > :16:09.can have an influence. Climate change, ocean currents, or

:16:09. > :16:12.provisioning, and what we have seen here today is our efforts to ease

:16:12. > :16:16.their passage through river structures. It's been a marathon

:16:16. > :16:21.journey for these baby eels. The final hurdle? An uphill wriggle on

:16:21. > :16:26.the elver passage. And then they're off to freshwater freedom.

:16:26. > :16:29.Broccoli is often described as a super food and for good reason.

:16:29. > :16:33.According to scientists in Norwich, eating your "greens" really is good

:16:33. > :16:36.for you. Scientists at The Institute of Food Research have published a

:16:36. > :16:42.study which found one particular variety of broccoli can rejuvenate

:16:42. > :16:46.our metabolism as we get older. It increases the rate at which our

:16:46. > :16:50.cells process fats and sugars. It also helps to reduce levels of fatty

:16:50. > :17:00.acids in people's blood. Professor Richard Mithen led the research

:17:00. > :17:02.

:17:02. > :17:06.team. So, why is that important? we get older, our body start not

:17:07. > :17:11.working quite as well as they used to, especially if we do not take

:17:11. > :17:15.enough exercise. We also tend to eat a little bit too much fat and sugar

:17:15. > :17:18.and our body must process all at this. So having broccoli, it just

:17:19. > :17:22.keeps our machinery working well. It is a bit like if you have a car and

:17:22. > :17:32.the car gets old, you may have to beat June. Eating broccoli seems to

:17:32. > :17:41.

:17:41. > :17:46.be June as. -- June as. -- help us. How does normal broccoli helped?

:17:46. > :17:50.Many studies have shown that eating things that broccoli and cabbage

:17:50. > :17:55.reduces your chances of cancer and other things. You must eat them a

:17:55. > :17:59.lot. Over many years, we have developed a new kind of broccoli

:17:59. > :18:02.that has a high level of a particular compound that you can eat

:18:02. > :18:07.two or three times a week and probably get the same benefit of

:18:07. > :18:10.eating normal broccoli or cabbage for or five times a week. We have

:18:11. > :18:14.all met the people who say they do not like meat they do not like

:18:14. > :18:20.vegetables. So, people do not like vegetables, what risks are they

:18:20. > :18:24.facing? There is no magic bullet in diet, and what we want to encourage

:18:24. > :18:28.people to do to lead a healthy lifestyle, there are lots of studies

:18:28. > :18:31.that say to have plenty of fruit and vegetables in your diet, perhaps a

:18:31. > :18:35.little bit less red meat and saturated fat, take some exercise,

:18:35. > :18:43.you will maintain health and keep good health as you age. A little bit

:18:43. > :18:48.of broccoli will do a let -- an excellent little bit of help.

:18:48. > :18:51.think there will be more interest for farmers to grow this special new

:18:51. > :18:57.broccoli and supermarkets to sell it? Because it is only available in

:18:57. > :19:01.a few areas. I think so. It has only been available for about one you.

:19:01. > :19:06.When you have a new variety, it takes a long time to get the seats.

:19:06. > :19:10.We have two growers in the country, they are based in East Anglia. But

:19:10. > :19:20.as the demand build-up and as there are more seats, hopefully, it will

:19:20. > :19:24.become more available. What surprised you in these figures?

:19:24. > :19:28.did not quite expect the extent of the changes we would see. We took a

:19:28. > :19:33.study where we look at blood and measured 400 different chemicals in

:19:33. > :19:39.the blood and many of them, perhaps 200, should some changes, but

:19:39. > :19:44.particularly the facts. We were not really expecting that. Having done

:19:44. > :19:50.that now, we understand why broccoli has many health benefits. More and

:19:50. > :19:56.more is now being found about the effect of food on things like

:19:57. > :19:59.cancer. Yes. And here in Norwich, we are world leaders. Much of our

:20:00. > :20:05.research is focused on how having a good diet can help reduce the risk

:20:05. > :20:10.of things like cancer and heart disease. This is what we need to do

:20:10. > :20:14.with an ageing population and a strained NHS. Thank you.

:20:14. > :20:17.The Prince of Wales had his hands full today as well-wishers handed

:20:17. > :20:19.him gifts for his first grandchild, Prince George of Cambridge. Prince

:20:19. > :20:23.Charles and the Duchess of Cornwall received congratulations from the

:20:23. > :20:26.crowd during the annual flower show at Sandringham in Norfolk. Among the

:20:26. > :20:36.gifts, a shawl from a member of the local WI. Let's go to Sandringham

:20:36. > :20:40.now, and Maria Veronese. Hello from Sandringham this evening. A rather

:20:40. > :20:49.wet Sandringham. This is the 130 seconds and a flower show. That was

:20:49. > :20:54.fantastic here today. -- this is the 130th Sandringham Flower Show. There

:20:54. > :20:58.were thousands of people here today, 20,000, but many of them have

:20:58. > :21:03.now gone home. Many today enjoyed the event and had the opportunity to

:21:03. > :21:06.congratulate a well-known pair of grandparents.

:21:06. > :21:10.It was our umbrellas all round, but they did not dampen the spirits of

:21:10. > :21:14.those waiting to see the Prince of Wales and the Duchess of Cornwall,

:21:14. > :21:20.many offering congratulations on the new Royal addition to first-time

:21:20. > :21:26.grandfather Prince Charles. He asked me if I had ever changed nappies

:21:26. > :21:34.because I am a grandad. It has rained today, but not on previous

:21:34. > :21:39.years. We wished him congratulations on the baby. He said that he hopes

:21:39. > :21:46.we have really nice grandparents. And we do. They are here today as

:21:46. > :21:56.well. Prince Charles is a patron of the show. The day he and the Dutch

:21:56. > :22:06.as displays before going back out into the rain. -- 2D, he and the

:22:06. > :22:06.

:22:06. > :22:16.Duchess. In the WI tent, he was given a handmade baby scarf, while

:22:16. > :22:21.the Duchess made some purchases. APPLAUSE

:22:21. > :22:27.She usually makes one or two purchases. She likes to buy bits of

:22:27. > :22:37.plans. The Duke seemed interested in the softcopy. And the Duchess boss

:22:37. > :22:40.

:22:40. > :22:48.muffins? Yes. She usually has some when she comes. This two-year-old

:22:48. > :22:56.bird is in the process of becoming the RAF's official mascot.

:22:56. > :23:06.We wanted to give her a special identity. There are bad has an eagle

:23:06. > :23:08.

:23:08. > :23:12.on it. We jumped at the chance. -- their badge. The royal couple left

:23:12. > :23:22.to warm applause, with many gifts from well-wishers for the grandson,

:23:22. > :23:28.

:23:28. > :23:34.Prince George. Well, since the flower show began

:23:34. > :23:42.132 years ago, more than �600,000 has been raised for local charities.

:23:42. > :23:46.Actor you and your lovely dry studio. -- back to you.

:23:46. > :23:54.Does that for now it is not allowed to block its wings at the future

:23:54. > :24:00.King? And you've noticed some very nice flowers. Mine has died because

:24:00. > :24:01.of the warm weather. But of course, we have had some warm rain today.

:24:01. > :24:05.we have had some warm rain today. Before the forecast, someone's being

:24:05. > :24:08.Before the forecast, someone's Believe it or not, this otter wasn't

:24:08. > :24:12.filmed out in the wilds of the countryside, but right in the heart

:24:12. > :24:15.of Thetford in Norfolk. It shows no fear of humans and features in a

:24:15. > :24:18.special BBC East programme tomorrow night immediately after Look East

:24:18. > :24:28.here on BBC One. It's called the Urban Jungle and features some

:24:28. > :24:30.

:24:30. > :24:35.incredible creatures living right in the centre of our towns and cities.

:24:35. > :24:45.We have only been here for few minutes. The otter is just under

:24:45. > :24:46.

:24:46. > :24:51.there. There he is! Got him. Amazing. He is leaving the water.

:24:51. > :24:56.Fantastic! So that is tomorrow night immediately after Look East. Now,

:24:56. > :24:59.courtesy of a warm front, we have had some rain today. This is the

:24:59. > :25:03.movement of that rain. Much of it is light and patchy but there have been

:25:03. > :25:08.some heavier bits mixed in. Much of it has now cleared away to the

:25:08. > :25:13.North. We have got a few showers following in behind. To the south,

:25:13. > :25:17.well, some breaks in the cloud. Some others can see some evening

:25:17. > :25:23.sunshine. What is also happening is that lined up and bring, we have got

:25:23. > :25:33.much warmer air pushing in. Once the last of any showers and rain have

:25:33. > :25:38.gone, it is a dry night. I mentioned once they are. It will be a pretty

:25:38. > :25:44.sticky night tonight. Many of us will not get below 70 degrees. The

:25:44. > :25:48.wind will generally be light. -- 17 degrees. Tomorrow, we have got this

:25:48. > :25:53.weather front coming up the western side. We are in between high and low

:25:53. > :25:58.pressure and for us, if you like it one and sunny, you are in luck. It

:25:58. > :26:03.will be hot for some of us. Once the mist is gone, we are looking at and

:26:03. > :26:07.of a lot of sunshine. Inland, that sunshine could take temperatures as

:26:07. > :26:17.high as 31 Celsius, which is 88 Fahrenheit. We have got very humid

:26:17. > :26:17.

:26:17. > :26:20.air, so it is going to be a pity the day. If you want to escape the heat,

:26:20. > :26:23.head for the East Coast, because here temperatures will be a little

:26:23. > :26:27.bit lower. So quite pleasant, and not as humid. The winds and light to

:26:27. > :26:31.moderate. It will be one of those days when inland it will feel like

:26:31. > :26:36.being under a one hairdryer, so not a lot of relief from the winds in

:26:36. > :26:42.mind tomorrow. So a bit patchy cloud tomorrow evening, but a good of

:26:42. > :26:46.sunshine. As we head into Friday, it does look like there is a front

:26:47. > :26:50.coming in from the West, introducing more in the way of cloud. There is

:26:50. > :26:56.plenty of sunshine. I have picked a dry symbol on their, but there is

:26:56. > :27:01.still a small chance of boundary showers moving up from France on

:27:01. > :27:04.Friday. We will keep you posted. And on Saturday, a fresher feel to

:27:04. > :27:10.things, much more comfortable. Plenty of sunshine but also a

:27:10. > :27:13.scattering of showers. And then by Sunday, we should lose the showers.

:27:14. > :27:19.They should be a dry day. We should have some decent spells of warm

:27:19. > :27:26.sunshine. The high will be around 23 degrees. The winds will mainly be

:27:26. > :27:30.light. And by then, after a few hot and sticky nights, it should just

:27:30. > :27:38.become a bit more comfortable, temperatures around 40 degrees at