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:00:00. > :00:00.weekend. That's all from us. Now the news

:00:00. > :00:22.where you Good evening. In the programme: The

:00:23. > :00:25.man arrested for hacking into NASA and US government computer sites

:00:26. > :00:31.from his home in Suffolk. The tens of thousands of homes still

:00:32. > :00:36.without power. I have a fridge full of food, a cupboard full of food,

:00:37. > :00:42.but I cannot even open a can of soup and heated because I've got no means

:00:43. > :00:47.of heating. Approval for a waste incinerator,

:00:48. > :00:53.but a warning it could still cost the council millions.

:00:54. > :01:00.And the need to give the veterans of Christmas Island the recognition

:01:01. > :01:03.they deserve. Hello. First tonight, the

:01:04. > :01:05.28`year`old from Suffolk arrested on suspicion of hacking into US

:01:06. > :01:12.military and government computer systems.

:01:13. > :01:17.Lauri Love is described as a "sophisticated and prolific computer

:01:18. > :01:20.hacker". On Friday he was arrested at his home in Stradishall and has

:01:21. > :01:23.been released on bail until February. The authorities claim he

:01:24. > :01:34.hacked into a number of systems including the US Army and NASA. This

:01:35. > :01:38.from our chief reporter, Kim Riley. This is the family home of Lauri

:01:39. > :01:43.Love, just a stones throw from the at Stradishall. It is alleged that

:01:44. > :01:48.from here the 28`year`old helped to pull off a massive reach of military

:01:49. > :01:55.computer systems. He did not answer the door to us today, the curtains

:01:56. > :01:58.and many rooms stayed closed. When his father, a respected Baptist

:01:59. > :02:04.minister and chaplain at the present came home, I asked to speak to him.

:02:05. > :02:08.He referred me to the Home Office. The family have been under great

:02:09. > :02:16.pressure. He made it clear that we were not welcome. Following his

:02:17. > :02:23.arrest year under the computer misuse act, Lauri Love was granted

:02:24. > :02:30.police bail until next February. In court documents he was described as

:02:31. > :02:34.a sophisticated computer hacker. Prosecutors are alleging that he and

:02:35. > :02:38.fellow conspirators stall massive quantities of secret information.

:02:39. > :02:46.Among the so`called government thick and is named in the indictment by

:02:47. > :02:53.the US Army `` government agencies. It is claimed that Lauri Love and

:02:54. > :02:59.his conspirators stall details of thousands of service men and women.

:03:00. > :03:12.Some chat room conversations were released.

:03:13. > :03:16.In another... Lauri Love, pictured at a protest at

:03:17. > :03:21.Glasgow University two years ago, could face a maximum five`year

:03:22. > :03:24.prison sentence. The American authorities are expected to seek his

:03:25. > :03:28.extradition. More than 20,000 homes are still

:03:29. > :03:32.without power 36 hours after the storm blew through our region. All

:03:33. > :03:35.of them are in Suffolk and Essex. In a moment we'll hear from UK Power

:03:36. > :03:42.Networks, but first our reporter Kevin Burch has been meeting some of

:03:43. > :03:46.you who're still in the dark. This is what life has been like for

:03:47. > :03:52.this couple in Chelmsford since around 7pm yesterday # 7am yesterday

:03:53. > :03:58.morning. With no power they have struggled to stay warm and eat basic

:03:59. > :04:04.meals, given Ronald's health it is not great. He is on warfarin, which

:04:05. > :04:09.makes him cold, but he is also diabetic and he needs to eat

:04:10. > :04:14.regularly and a substantial meal because he is taking inshore and

:04:15. > :04:18.injections. Cooking involves the small stalls, today it is bacon,

:04:19. > :04:23.anything substantial is out of the question. They have tried to get

:04:24. > :04:28.power updates but with no success. We tried to contact but we got was

:04:29. > :04:34.recorded message. I hung on and nobody around to it. This lady is

:04:35. > :04:39.also paying a waiting game. She lives in Holbrooke in Suffolk and

:04:40. > :04:42.got caught off as well. A recorded message said that if she stayed on

:04:43. > :04:48.the line for 30 minutes someone would talk to her. She did not. She

:04:49. > :04:56.has family nearby but finds it tough. I have a cupboard full of

:04:57. > :05:00.food, but I can't even open a can of soup and heat it, because I've got

:05:01. > :05:11.no means of heating. So I've got to live on my fat. There's not a lot of

:05:12. > :05:16.that! Never has been. These engineers are part of their many

:05:17. > :05:22.army working around the clock to reconnect supplies. An estimated

:05:23. > :05:25.15,000 homes in the region still had no power at lunchtime. But back in

:05:26. > :05:35.Chelmsford, for Ronald and Linda, guess what... Can you believe it?

:05:36. > :05:41.And in Suffolk, for Joan, helping hand as well. This was bought to me

:05:42. > :05:51.`` brought me this morning by a kind man. It is a gesture that means for

:05:52. > :05:56.so much `` that mean so much to a pensioner who admits at times she

:05:57. > :06:00.feels forgotten. We saw in Kevin's report that some

:06:01. > :06:03.people are getting their power back. So some good news for Matt Rudling

:06:04. > :06:07.from UK Power Networks, but there is still a long way to go. The numbers

:06:08. > :06:12.coming down power by hour. We are at around 14,000. That is a significant

:06:13. > :06:17.reduction on what we had at the start of the day. We have engineers

:06:18. > :06:23.coming across from all across the country to support our restoration

:06:24. > :06:26.effort. We have heard a lot of complaints from your customers who

:06:27. > :06:31.have said that they have been unable to get through on the helpline.

:06:32. > :06:36.Yesterday we had two months worth of calls come in a single day. Two

:06:37. > :06:40.months's worth of normal calls in one single day. It has been very

:06:41. > :06:45.difficult for us to cope. We have done everything we can. We have had

:06:46. > :06:50.three times as much staff as normal dealing with that. But one of the

:06:51. > :06:54.things we have done today, as part of our normal operation, we have

:06:55. > :07:01.made 10,000 calls back to customers today. We have been taking customer

:07:02. > :07:06.calls, people who might sit in our financial argument resources teams,

:07:07. > :07:15.they are there, taking calls. `` financial resources teams. You are

:07:16. > :07:18.in customer relations, do you think it is acceptable that some body

:07:19. > :07:23.should wait for three hours before they actually get through? It's

:07:24. > :07:26.never going to be acceptable to anybody to have to wait any time to

:07:27. > :07:32.get through when you have something as important to report as a power

:07:33. > :07:35.cut, of course not. Like I say, we had two months's worth of calls in

:07:36. > :07:40.one day yesterday. That's unprecedented. But I would much of

:07:41. > :07:45.preferred everybody to have got through straightaway. You knew those

:07:46. > :07:56.wins were coming, did you have enough staff on duty first thing on

:07:57. > :08:02.Monday morning? `` winds. We did. We were coping well. But then those

:08:03. > :08:14.winds did pick up and we had damaged like we have not seen in localised

:08:15. > :08:19.areas. The constant murders `` the customers were trying to get

:08:20. > :08:27.through. Some did not get through as quickly as we would have liked. Some

:08:28. > :08:30.more good news. Since we recorded that interview late this afternoon

:08:31. > :08:35.UK Power Networks have told us that the number of properties without

:08:36. > :08:38.power is now about 20,000. Thousands of train travellers faced

:08:39. > :08:42.a second day of disruption today as buses replaced trains on the main

:08:43. > :08:44.routes into London. As the clear up continues across the region, Gareth

:08:45. > :08:50.George has been looking at the problems St Jude left behind.

:08:51. > :08:54.Delays, cancellations, crowded platforms, it was another

:08:55. > :09:01.frustrating morning for passengers at Colchester railway station. I am

:09:02. > :09:06.from Sudbury on the line is closed so I had to come here. I just do not

:09:07. > :09:10.know how we are still facing delays. There were no trains running

:09:11. > :09:15.yesterday, why is the debris still there? They had all day yesterday to

:09:16. > :09:19.get rid of the debris. Here we are not used in the sort of thing, in

:09:20. > :09:26.America they would have cleared it already. Network rain apologised ``

:09:27. > :09:32.network rail. We did everything we could to reopen. But we had further

:09:33. > :09:37.trees falling. Just at the moment we thought we had victory. Across the

:09:38. > :09:40.region 's work is being done on scores of trees damaged in the

:09:41. > :09:48.storm, including this weeping willow. Making it safe, taking out

:09:49. > :09:52.any hanging branches, trying to repair any damage that could cause

:09:53. > :09:58.potential damage to people. The severity of the damage was

:09:59. > :10:02.surprising. When we got out to see the damage it was quite extensive.

:10:03. > :10:05.It is not the obvious stuff, the trees across the parks, there are a

:10:06. > :10:10.lot of trees that have lost branches that are hanging up. A lot of trees

:10:11. > :10:14.hanging on other trees. It does not need a huge wind to bring that

:10:15. > :10:19.down, they can just fall at a time. This is a National Trust site, it is

:10:20. > :10:24.closed at the moment because there is a power line down within the

:10:25. > :10:35.weed. Two other National Trust sites are also closed. `` within the

:10:36. > :10:41.wood. National Trust 's staff are going in to make sure that they are

:10:42. > :10:44.safe. Last night a double`decker bus was recovered. Eyewitnesses still

:10:45. > :10:49.amazed by the brutal strength of the storm. You'll mag there was a

:10:50. > :10:54.massive gust of wind and I saw the bus just left up. It carried into

:10:55. > :11:03.the field and dumped on its side. Never seen anything like it. You

:11:04. > :11:07.never expect to see it. It was a real shock. The storm was over in a

:11:08. > :11:16.couple of hours but its impact will be felt for far longer.

:11:17. > :11:19.And in football, Norwich City manager Chris Hughton says the

:11:20. > :11:22.Capital One cup tie tonight at Manchester United is a welcome

:11:23. > :11:25.distraction. His team is in the bottom three in the Premier League.

:11:26. > :11:29.On Saturday they drew 0`0 with Cardiff. A number of changes to that

:11:30. > :11:32.side are expected. Ricky van Wolfswinkel has a toe injury and

:11:33. > :11:47.Alex Tettey could also miss out. Kick`off is at 7.45pm and there's

:11:48. > :11:52.coverage on BBC Radio Norfolk. Still to come: We are live by

:11:53. > :11:56.candlelight in a village in Essex where they are still without power.

:11:57. > :12:01.And the campaign to recognise our Christmas Island veterans.

:12:02. > :12:04.Today Norfolk County Council's cabinet formally approved the plans

:12:05. > :12:08.to build a waste incinerator in King's Lynn. It is the latest stage

:12:09. > :12:12.in a long and controversial saga which may not yet be at an end.

:12:13. > :12:15.The original decision to build a waste incinerator was made in 2006.

:12:16. > :12:18.Two years later the site at Saddlebow on the outskirts of King's

:12:19. > :12:21.Lynn was purchased. The protests started soon after, and in a

:12:22. > :12:27.referendum 65,000 people voted against. The council decided the

:12:28. > :12:35.poll was meaningless and pressed ahead. The Government ordered a

:12:36. > :12:39.public inquiry and we're still waiting for the result of that. But

:12:40. > :12:42.two weeks ago the Government withdrew financial support. Then

:12:43. > :12:45.yesterday the full council voted to go ahead and build the incinerator

:12:46. > :12:49.after a warning that to pull out would leave them open to a claim for

:12:50. > :12:56.compensation. And it's not over yet. Our political correspondent Andrew

:12:57. > :13:00.Sinclair reports. They are not out of the woods yet,

:13:01. > :13:06.today it is expected that the Cabinet will formally approve the

:13:07. > :13:14.incinerator and for the developer is another milestone has been cleared.

:13:15. > :13:20.You'll mark ``. There has been debate on all sides. It represents

:13:21. > :13:23.good value for money. We will continue to work with the people of

:13:24. > :13:29.Norfolk and deliver a great infrastructure project. But there is

:13:30. > :13:33.still one big hurdle. Eric Pickles has the final say and he is being

:13:34. > :13:41.heavily lobbied to reject the scheme. But if incinerator is

:13:42. > :13:46.rejected the council will still face a compensation bill of around

:13:47. > :13:49.?25,000. Mr Timmins told the meeting that the

:13:50. > :13:53.council would not be able to use its reserves, and despite what local MPs

:13:54. > :13:57.have suggested, he thought it would be unlikely that they would be

:13:58. > :14:02.allowed to borrow the money. He said that the councils may want to start

:14:03. > :14:05.asking officers to hold back on spending in case Eric Pickles

:14:06. > :14:11.rejects the plans. Councillors left the meeting in a sombre Mead. To

:14:12. > :14:18.find 24 million in the final phases of this financial year would have

:14:19. > :14:23.catastrophic consequences. Why on earth did this administration and

:14:24. > :14:28.previous administrations nor there was a risk of planning failure, it

:14:29. > :14:33.was on the risk register. Why did they not start putting money aside

:14:34. > :14:36.earlier. If Eric Pickles approves the scheme it will not be a problem

:14:37. > :14:40.and building work will start your next summer. If it doesn't, this

:14:41. > :14:49.will become a very real debate in a few months's time.

:14:50. > :14:55.George Nobbs is a leader of Norfolk county council. This is a real mess,

:14:56. > :15:00.isn't it? It is not a mess, it is a situation we have inherited, it is

:15:01. > :15:03.not perfect. But just one thing, we did not decide today to go into a

:15:04. > :15:12.contract, what we decided today was not to cancel the contract. Saw you

:15:13. > :15:19.have no plans to build it? That is not what I'm saying. The contract

:15:20. > :15:25.was signed many years ago, `` the contract was discussed many years

:15:26. > :15:31.ago, signed 18 months ago. We had to decide whether to withdraw from the

:15:32. > :15:38.contract and pay penalties. We have ?180 million worth of cuts to make.

:15:39. > :15:42.We are now ?169 million worth of `` worse off because of the withdrawal

:15:43. > :15:48.of PFI credits. We have extraordinary challenges to face. We

:15:49. > :15:53.could not pay another ?30 million. Can I ask you about that point that

:15:54. > :15:56.someone mentioned in the film, why did you not think about those

:15:57. > :16:06.savings when you were elected on me the fifth? We took office on me the

:16:07. > :16:09.24th. We were told then that we had ?140 million worth of cuts that we

:16:10. > :16:17.had to make because of the cut in government grants. Within one month,

:16:18. > :16:21.because of changes in government grants, we were told we had to make

:16:22. > :16:25.another ?45 million on top of that. We were not planning at any time to

:16:26. > :16:32.say that we would increase that by cancelling the contract. I'm in

:16:33. > :16:37.crested. `` interested. You said it was not a mess, it sends like it is

:16:38. > :16:48.to me. You'll mark I will tell you why it is a mess, it is because the

:16:49. > :16:51.government granted this... It is a council thing. Norfolk county

:16:52. > :16:55.council have got themselves into this problem. The government have

:16:56. > :17:02.the rate withdraw that. You are wrong. One of my predecessors, when

:17:03. > :17:07.they signed the contract they were promised ?169 million of government

:17:08. > :17:13.grant. If you have a public enquiry the government can withdraw that.

:17:14. > :17:16.Government inquiry has nothing to do with the PFI contract. The

:17:17. > :17:19.government decided earlier this year that they would look at all of the

:17:20. > :17:25.outstanding PFI grants to see if they wanted to continue in order to

:17:26. > :17:33.save government spending. When they decided to weeks ago, at the behest

:17:34. > :17:45.of some of our MPs, to... Who you are not very happy with X . I have

:17:46. > :17:48.to ask you one last question. Have you heard from Eric Pickles, is

:17:49. > :18:02.there a nod and a wink that you will get the money? No, I have not. But

:18:03. > :18:05.we will be in touch with Mr pickles. Veterans of nuclear tests carried

:18:06. > :18:08.out in the 1950s have taken their fight for compensation to

:18:09. > :18:11.Westminster today. More than 1,000 men say they and their families have

:18:12. > :18:14.suffered ill health since the Christmas Island tests. The Essex MP

:18:15. > :18:18.John Baron held a Commons debate this afternoon. We'll be hearing

:18:19. > :18:31.from him in a moment, but first this from Simon Newton.

:18:32. > :18:35.A few mistakes were made because they had no idea what would happen,

:18:36. > :18:45.no thought seemed to have gone into it. Now aged 74, David was a teenage

:18:46. > :18:50.airman posted to Christmas Island. Within a few weeks of coming home my

:18:51. > :18:58.gums started to bleed and within six months, I was actually losing teeth.

:18:59. > :19:04.Like thousands of other veterans, David believes that exposure to the

:19:05. > :19:11.nuclear blast left him with a lifetime of health problems,

:19:12. > :19:16.including a seizure, an aneurysm and spinal problems. We all sat with her

:19:17. > :19:23.back to it, that is probably one of the reasons why. He later developed

:19:24. > :19:29.bowel and stomach cancer. The MoD has long denied any link, but today

:19:30. > :19:38.John Baron led a Westminster debate calling for their sacrifice to the

:19:39. > :19:43.recognised. The signs were unknown, the risk was unquantifiable, but the

:19:44. > :19:48.cost to the veterans and their descendants was very severe indeed.

:19:49. > :19:56.We just want the recognition and perhaps a handshake to say that we

:19:57. > :20:03.are sorry that we did this to you. Only a few thousand atomic veterans

:20:04. > :20:06.still survive. Some believe it is now time to give up, but David is

:20:07. > :20:15.determined they should not be forgotten. For him and many others

:20:16. > :20:19.it remains a battle worth fighting. This afternoon I spoke to the MP

:20:20. > :20:21.John Baron and began by asking whether it was recognition or

:20:22. > :20:26.compensation that was really important to the veterans and their

:20:27. > :20:32.families. First of all, official recognition from the Prime Minister,

:20:33. > :20:39.preferably oral but in rating if necessary, making clearer debt of

:20:40. > :20:43.gratitude to these veterans. But the establishment of a ?25 million

:20:44. > :20:48.benevolent fund that would be distributed on the basis of need,

:20:49. > :20:56.not entitlement, to help veterans and their descendants when it came

:20:57. > :21:00.to care. There is also a health needs analysis, helping veterans

:21:01. > :21:03.through the NHS, which has been successful. This is a campaign that

:21:04. > :21:07.has been going on for many years now, are you still optimistic about

:21:08. > :21:14.getting this benevolent fund and the current economic situation? Yes, I

:21:15. > :21:18.am. The reason being that this is a just cause and it is wrong that

:21:19. > :21:23.needs to be righted. The government has a track record of doing just

:21:24. > :21:32.that, I can think of thalidomide that ends. `` victims. The nuclear

:21:33. > :21:37.test falls into this camp. We should never forget that there is a legacy

:21:38. > :21:41.that we would these veterans. A debt of gratitude that we have not yet

:21:42. > :21:45.fully acknowledged. We need to put that right, for the sake of not just

:21:46. > :21:52.the veterans, but also their descendants. But are you running out

:21:53. > :21:55.of time on this? We have been fighting a Parliamentary campaign

:21:56. > :22:00.for a few years now. We rankle most at the bottom of what we call the

:22:01. > :22:05.international table of decency when comparing how other countries treat

:22:06. > :22:12.their test veterans `` we rank almost at the bottom. Canada, the

:22:13. > :22:17.Isle of Man. Or you had to prove is that you were at the test and you

:22:18. > :22:22.are ill and you will get a payment, you do not have to prove a causal

:22:23. > :22:27.link. In this country very elderly veterans have to go through a very

:22:28. > :22:32.torturous war pension scheme which often feels. That is clearly wrong,

:22:33. > :22:40.we are at the bottom of the International table of decency and

:22:41. > :22:44.the time has come to put that right. Back now to our top story, and the

:22:45. > :22:46.tens of thousands of homes still without power after yesterday's

:22:47. > :22:49.storm. Homes and businesses are affected.

:22:50. > :22:59.Neil Bradford is at a pub in the village of Stebbing in Essex.

:23:00. > :23:06.Good evening. I suppose we could say we are in deepest, darkest Essex.

:23:07. > :23:11.Perfect for stargazing, not the best for finding your way around. We very

:23:12. > :23:15.nearly did not find this pub, but I am glad that we did. Although it has

:23:16. > :23:20.been without heating and electricity since yesterday it does of course

:23:21. > :23:25.have a warm welcome. At has become a focal point for the community. Let

:23:26. > :23:30.us talk to some residents about how they have been coping. How have you

:23:31. > :23:33.been coping without power? It's getting to be a bit of a drag now,

:23:34. > :23:39.to be honest with you. The biggest problem at home as the freezer, the

:23:40. > :23:50.food is going off. You cant watch television, can do anything. I have

:23:51. > :23:55.been over at `` you cannot do anything. I have been over at the

:23:56. > :24:01.golf course. I have not tried to get out, but plenty of people have and

:24:02. > :24:05.they have come in here. We just sit and wait. Conflicting messages from

:24:06. > :24:15.companies. The reserve roaring log fire here. Let's talk to the

:24:16. > :24:19.landlord of the white cart. It has brought the community together, but

:24:20. > :24:27.it must be difficult trading like this? It is difficult, with the

:24:28. > :24:35.glass washer and cooking especially. And food. You normally do food, but

:24:36. > :24:40.you have not been able to? The odd sandwich, that is it. As of tomorrow

:24:41. > :24:46.everything goes out. How much longer do you think you can cope? Who

:24:47. > :24:56.knows. The bear is hanging in there, but it is warming up, which is not

:24:57. > :25:00.good. `` the lager. At least it has brought the community together. UK

:25:01. > :25:03.Power Networks has been on the village checking on the vulnerable

:25:04. > :25:11.and that is what they are asking you to do. If you are in power affected

:25:12. > :25:17.village, check on your neighbours. Time for the weather.

:25:18. > :25:22.Stebbing make be without power, but look at the dramatic sunset they

:25:23. > :25:28.have had this evening. We have spared the pictures up so that you

:25:29. > :25:32.can see the sun sinking behind the trees. It will be a fine start to

:25:33. > :25:36.the day tomorrow, but not before temperatures have dropped quite

:25:37. > :25:40.sharply. We have a ridge of high pressure is starting to move them

:25:41. > :25:45.from the south`west. That will mean light winds and clear skies. For

:25:46. > :25:48.some of us a touch of ground frost. It will stay dry overnight tonight

:25:49. > :25:54.and for much of the night those quiet skies stay clear. We are

:25:55. > :26:00.dropping down into single figures quite widely across the region.

:26:01. > :26:21.Certainly we could get close to two or three Celsius in more oral spots.

:26:22. > :26:27.A bit of a crisp spot `` in more rural spots. Virtually unbroken

:26:28. > :26:29.sunshine through the morning, a bit of a chilly start but those

:26:30. > :26:37.temperatures could claim perhaps a little higher than they could today.

:26:38. > :26:40.A bit of a brisk south`westerly breeze, that will tend to freshen

:26:41. > :26:46.during the day and you will start to see Clay developing into the western

:26:47. > :26:52.half of the region. That rain arriving for most of us overnight

:26:53. > :26:57.into the early hours of Thursday morning. It may just take its time

:26:58. > :27:01.to clear. Developing low could be interesting for the weekend.

:27:02. > :27:08.Promising some and windy weather, but the track of it still not quite

:27:09. > :27:11.established yet. It does look as if it will turn am settled. Some rain

:27:12. > :27:17.to clear for the eastern half on Thursday. The risk of one or two

:27:18. > :27:21.showers for the afternoon. Into Friday, we may get away with a dry

:27:22. > :27:25.but cloudy start with some rain pushing on and the next system for

:27:26. > :27:29.Friday, it is looking like it could be quite wet and windy to start the

:27:30. > :27:33.weekend. Tonight is the night that we have the risk of ground frost.

:27:34. > :27:37.Certainly some chilly weather still on the way.

:27:38. > :27:39.Thank you very much indeed. Stay warm, we'll see you tomorrow

:27:40. > :27:42.night. Goodbye.