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:00:00. > :00:08.heading our way and wet and windy again. That is all

:00:09. > :00:16.Guilty of assisting this serial killer ASH two people are convicted

:00:17. > :00:20.of helping Joanna Dennehy. In the programme tonight: The sweet faced

:00:21. > :00:22.schoolgirl who became a cold`blooded killer, and the family who still

:00:23. > :00:27.can't believe what has happened. can't believe what has happened

:00:28. > :00:34.There was a girl that we like to turned into a monster.

:00:35. > :00:38.Also, tonight: As the floods continue to rise, how our region is

:00:39. > :00:43.helping out as more bad weather head this way.

:00:44. > :00:45.And on Charles Darwin's birthday, the project that aims to re`houses

:00:46. > :00:54.collections. Good evening. First, tonight, the

:00:55. > :00:58.mother from Peterborough who became a serial killer, and the two men who

:00:59. > :01:01.helped her cover her tracks. Tonight, Gary Stretch and Leslie

:01:02. > :01:04.Layton are behind bars awaiting sentence. Joanna Dennehy has already

:01:05. > :01:10.admitted killing three men and trying to murder two more. Her own

:01:11. > :01:14.family have described her as a monster. Stretch and Layton both

:01:15. > :01:19.claimed they were under her control, but neither took to the stand to

:01:20. > :01:30.defend themselves. Neil Bradford was in court as they were convicted.

:01:31. > :01:36.It took the jury of eight women and four men more than 27 hours to reach

:01:37. > :01:39.their guilty verdicts in the dock. In the dark, both men stared ahead

:01:40. > :01:45.as the jury delivered those verdicts to the courts. Despite their pleas

:01:46. > :01:51.to the contrary, both men were found guilty of being converses to Joanna

:01:52. > :02:00.Dennehy. They were caught on camera covering the tracks of the serial

:02:01. > :02:04.killer, standing is Gary Stretch. He's seen filling a petrol can use

:02:05. > :02:09.to burn out the car behind him, which belonged to one of the

:02:10. > :02:14.victims. Inside is Joanna Dennehy, described as a woman driven by a

:02:15. > :02:18.thirst for blood. In this picture, she's seen posing with a knife while

:02:19. > :02:24.on the run. Kevin Lee was her landlord and lover ` he was her

:02:25. > :02:32.second victim. His family spoke today.

:02:33. > :02:39.As a family, we feel an immense pressure to fill this void. Life is

:02:40. > :02:43.now very dull without Kevin around. Joanna Dennehy has taken over our

:02:44. > :02:47.lives, and has callously created a whole which cannot be filled.

:02:48. > :02:51.The killing spree began in March last year. She knew all her victims,

:02:52. > :02:54.stabbing them through the heart The first, a friend ` a polish worker,

:02:55. > :03:00.Lukasz Slaboszewski, she'd enticed by text. Ten days later ` Kevin Lee.

:03:01. > :03:03.On the same day, she murdered her house mate John Chapman ` he'd

:03:04. > :03:06.flirted with her, said Dennehy. Helped by Stretch and Layton, the

:03:07. > :03:12.bodies were dumped in a ditches around Peterborough. Hand in hand,

:03:13. > :03:16.Dennehey and Stretch went on the run ` an unholy union, the court was

:03:17. > :03:19.told. They headed to Hereford, hunted by the police. Dennehy,

:03:20. > :03:26.buying cigarettes before what she called having her fun. This time,

:03:27. > :03:30.two random knife attacks With her is Mark Lloyd ` a friend of Gary

:03:31. > :03:39.Stretch. He was in the car at the time.

:03:40. > :03:42.She was evil. She knew exactly what she was doing.

:03:43. > :03:51.Stretch picked the victims, he said. Dennehy then attacked.

:03:52. > :04:02.Gary gestured out the window and ask, will he do? Dennehy was all

:04:03. > :04:04.over him ` literally 15 to 20 stab wounds.

:04:05. > :04:08.Their first victim was Robin Bereza. I'm going hurt you, kill you, she

:04:09. > :04:11.told him. Then, ten minutes later, John Rogers ` the attack brutal and

:04:12. > :04:18.frenzied. Moments later, Dennehy and Stretch were arrested.

:04:19. > :04:20.Apart from what you've just told me, are you on any other medication?

:04:21. > :04:27.are you on any other medication Stretch's defence ` he feared he'd

:04:28. > :04:32.be next. Not so, say prosecutors. They were friends. I don't know how

:04:33. > :04:39.far that friendship was the bond that gave the loyalty to him to

:04:40. > :04:43.assist her. He must have felt safe in her company. Not only had she

:04:44. > :04:48.committed three murders, and he had assisted in the disposal of the

:04:49. > :04:52.bodies, but he had driven her into Norfolk. He drove her to

:04:53. > :04:54.Herefordshire. He must have felt quite safe.

:04:55. > :04:57.Gary Stretch told a witness, I'm a professional burglar, not a

:04:58. > :05:01.murderer. Leslie Leyton was called a petty thief. Two men ` willing

:05:02. > :05:10.partners, the court was told ` in her ghastly tale of criminality.

:05:11. > :05:13.her ghastly tale of criminality Stretch and Leighton claimed they

:05:14. > :05:18.were frightened of Dennehy, and that they feared for their lives.

:05:19. > :05:24.Instead, they fuelled her need for violence and assisted her in living

:05:25. > :05:30.out her fantasies. Gary Stretch is seven tall, and was described in

:05:31. > :05:33.court as Dennehy's nodding dog. A third man has already admitted his

:05:34. > :05:36.part in the crimes, and will be sentenced at a later date.

:05:37. > :05:39.Piecing together events and bringing Dennehy, Stretch and Layton to

:05:40. > :05:43.justice has been a complex operation for the Police, involving a number

:05:44. > :05:47.of forces. It was led by the Bedfordshire, Cambridgeshire and

:05:48. > :05:50.Hertfordshire Major Crime Unit. The case has preoccupied Detective Chief

:05:51. > :06:01.Inspector Martin Brunning for almost a year. I spoke to him outside court

:06:02. > :06:05.a little earlier. Today is about families of those who

:06:06. > :06:12.were murdered, and the two men in Hereford who survived the attack by

:06:13. > :06:16.Dennehy. Today is about them, it's not about me or the investigation

:06:17. > :06:20.team. But I am delighted for them that they can start to move on now,

:06:21. > :06:26.knowing who is responsible in entirety for the terrible events of

:06:27. > :06:30.that affected their loved ones. The family have described Joanna as an

:06:31. > :06:38.evil monster. I'm interested to know how you would describe her?

:06:39. > :06:43.She is quite clearly a woman capable of the most despicable acts. She has

:06:44. > :06:49.demonstrated that. She is, in my view, a sadistic serial killer.

:06:50. > :06:55.Anyone who is prepared to behave in the way that she has, over the

:06:56. > :07:01.course of 14 days, taking the lives of three men and inflicting

:07:02. > :07:07.horrendous injuries onto others on an entirely random basis. She is

:07:08. > :07:12.clearly a significant danger to the public, and on that basis, it's very

:07:13. > :07:16.difficult to comprehend how anybody could be thinking when they are

:07:17. > :07:21.committing such atrocious acts. Are you any closer tonight to really

:07:22. > :07:27.understanding why Dennehy did what she did?

:07:28. > :07:31.I don't think it's within the scope of anybody's, retention and to

:07:32. > :07:35.understand what Joanna Dennehy was thinking, or why she did what she

:07:36. > :07:41.did. We don't have the benefit of her explanation. To put three men to

:07:42. > :07:46.their deaths in the way that she did, and carry on a seemingly for

:07:47. > :07:53.fun in trying conservatively to kill two more men, is simply beyond

:07:54. > :07:59.anybody's, retention. The court heard how she was very

:08:00. > :08:04.controlling and manipulative. In a way, she's still got some kind of

:08:05. > :08:13.control, hasn't she? Through her silence, she is failing to explain.

:08:14. > :08:21.She is very capable of making her own decisions. Why she made those

:08:22. > :08:24.decisions I don't know. What I do know is that she made them

:08:25. > :08:29.coherently ` as horrendous as unwarranted as the acts were, she

:08:30. > :08:31.made those decisions. Maybe in the fullness of time we will get some

:08:32. > :08:35.explanation. Let's take a look at Dennehy's ten

:08:36. > :08:38.day killing spree in a little more detail. It began in Peterborough on

:08:39. > :08:40.the 19th March when she murdered Lukasz Slaboszewski in Dogsthorpe.

:08:41. > :08:44.Ten days later, she murdered Kevin Lee in the same place. A few hours

:08:45. > :08:47.after that, she killed again. This time, the victim was John

:08:48. > :08:54.Chapman.Their bodies were later discovered in ditches in Newborough

:08:55. > :08:57.and Thorney Dyke. But by then. Dennehy and Stretch were already on

:08:58. > :09:01.the run across Suffolk and Norfolk ending up at King's Lynn. The next

:09:02. > :09:05.day, she drove to Hereford where she tried to kill two other men. So,

:09:06. > :09:09.what turned this sweet faced schoolgirl into a cold blooded

:09:10. > :09:16.killer? Out Home Affairs correspondent Sally Chidzoy has this

:09:17. > :09:22.report. Killing men was Joanna Dennehy's

:09:23. > :09:28.idea of fun. Up close and personal was her style. She plunged this

:09:29. > :09:32.knife into the hearts of three men. There was a girl that we loved, who

:09:33. > :09:37.then turned into a monster. I can't describe it any other way. You can't

:09:38. > :09:44.really give it a word. Sick, I suppose. I could never picture in my

:09:45. > :09:48.own head that she was capable of doing something so monstrous. I hope

:09:49. > :09:54.that she never sees daylight again. Ever.

:09:55. > :09:58.The killer with a psychopathic disorder, and the little girl she

:09:59. > :10:02.once was, going up in a comfortable home in Hertfordshire.

:10:03. > :10:07.They worked the people who didn t work. They weren't alcoholics or on

:10:08. > :10:15.drugs. They were just normal people like you and I `` they wed the

:10:16. > :10:20.people who didn't work. As a teenager, Joanna turned her back on

:10:21. > :10:24.her family and moved out. Often homeless, she turned to drugs and

:10:25. > :10:30.alcohol and was a familiar sight on the streets of Peterborough.

:10:31. > :10:38.She's lost her soul. I don't think she even knew who she was herself.

:10:39. > :10:39.She had a history of self harming. She also spent time in prison for

:10:40. > :10:47.petty crime. In March last year, she petty crime. In March last year she

:10:48. > :10:50.started her killing spree. It was here that two of Joanna Dennehy's

:10:51. > :10:55.here that two of Joanna Dennehy s victims met violent deaths. She was

:10:56. > :10:59.said to have a spell over them. She looted Leuchars slavers at the here

:11:00. > :11:09.by text, and dumped his body in a wheelie bin. Later, his body was

:11:10. > :11:12.found slashed in a black sequinned dress. Dennehy lived in this house

:11:13. > :11:19.were she killed the third victim John Chapman. Least believe he died

:11:20. > :11:25.because he saw her in the bath. I just think she's a nasty piece of

:11:26. > :11:28.work. There was no need for it. John was so lovely.

:11:29. > :11:36.The men's bodies were dumped it in Peterborough. Afterwards, she called

:11:37. > :11:41.Gary Stretch quoting from the Britney Spears song, oops, I did it

:11:42. > :11:46.again. Dennehy and stretch went on the run,

:11:47. > :11:51.driving across Suffolk and Norfolk, ending up on this estate. She wanted

:11:52. > :11:57.to see an old prison friend. Also in the house, was plumber Sean Keeble.

:11:58. > :12:04.He was shocked when she described what she had done with one of

:12:05. > :12:10.victims. She said she had put bleach on him.

:12:11. > :12:14.Dennehy said that she and stretch were like Bonnie and Clyde. She

:12:15. > :12:17.wanted the killings to make her famous. She was ecstatic when she

:12:18. > :12:21.saw a TV report saying she was wanted for murder.

:12:22. > :12:25.She had removed in your hands, jumping up and down, really happy. I

:12:26. > :12:32.said to her, don't you feel bad? She said to her, don't you feel bad? She

:12:33. > :12:35.was laughing and said no. Dennehy and stretch headed for the

:12:36. > :12:41.Midlands will stop they were captured holding hands at this

:12:42. > :12:45.service station. On arriving in Hereford, Dennehy 's start to more

:12:46. > :12:50.men in random attacks. Miraculously, they survived and gave evidence

:12:51. > :12:56.John Rogers was out walking his dog when Dennehy stabbed him for...

:12:57. > :13:03.40 times. She said, you're bleeding, I'd better do some more. I was just

:13:04. > :13:12.waiting for it to stop. When it did finally stop, I just thought well

:13:13. > :13:16.this is it ` I'm going to die. A short time later, they were

:13:17. > :13:21.arrested. Her so`called fun was over.

:13:22. > :13:25.She's the most dangerous woman that I have met in 20 years of policing.

:13:26. > :13:32.I would love to hear her story at some stage in the future, because

:13:33. > :13:36.when you look at the extent and destruction she has brought to

:13:37. > :13:41.people 's lives, she owes somebody an explanation as to why she decided

:13:42. > :13:44.to do that over that 14 day period. Well, I'm joined now by Dr Samantha

:13:45. > :13:47.Lundrigan ` Senior Lecturer in Criminology at Anglia Ruskin

:13:48. > :13:49.University. As we heard there, the police are no closer to

:13:50. > :13:57.understanding what her motive was. Can you shed any light? I think

:13:58. > :14:03.there is only one person who really knows what motivated this crime `

:14:04. > :14:07.and that's Joanna Dennehy herself. I don't think she'll ever tell us,

:14:08. > :14:15.because that's the ultimate control for her. I think control is at the

:14:16. > :14:21.heart of her motives. This gave the complete power and dominance over

:14:22. > :14:25.men that she wanted. She stabbed them in vicious attacks. She also

:14:26. > :14:28.got a great deal of thrill out of it.

:14:29. > :14:33.We know that she did have psychiatric problems. Is she evil or

:14:34. > :14:39.is she'll? She is certainly evil, she's bad and

:14:40. > :14:44.has very bad things. She is suffering from psychological

:14:45. > :14:48.disorders `3 personality disorders, all of which fall under the

:14:49. > :14:57.classification of antagonistic disorders, whether it is a great

:14:58. > :15:00.deal of hostility involved. It also includes reckless behaviour, not

:15:01. > :15:05.having care for the consequences of your actions. Don't get me wrong,

:15:06. > :15:09.she knew exactly what she was doing. She chose to kill again and

:15:10. > :15:13.again. She was known to the authorities as

:15:14. > :15:22.a petty offender, wasn't she? What escalates that into a serial killer?

:15:23. > :15:26.I think the clues, perhaps, the little we know about her background

:15:27. > :15:33.` she came from a loving, stable home. When she reached adolescence,

:15:34. > :15:41.she disassociated herself with those family environments. She got

:15:42. > :15:47.involved in chronic drug and alcohol misuse, and the personality

:15:48. > :15:52.disorders, together with that alcohol and drug misuse, meant that

:15:53. > :15:56.it escalated. Her default position, the way she thought, the way she

:15:57. > :16:05.perceived people around her, was with hostility. It wasn't much of a

:16:06. > :16:09.stretch from the life characterised by hostility to killing.

:16:10. > :16:18.How unusual for those actions to be done by a woman? White

:16:19. > :16:26.extremely rare. About 10% of serial killers are female. That equates,

:16:27. > :16:29.through our databases, to about two or three I year worldwide. To

:16:30. > :16:37.display these types of characteristics is rarer still.

:16:38. > :16:40.Thank you very much. There's comprehensive coverage of

:16:41. > :16:42.this story online and on BBC Radio Cambridgeshire's Breakfast Show

:16:43. > :17:01.tomorrow morning, when Paul Stainton will be asking can Joanna Dennehy

:17:02. > :17:04.ever be rehabilitated? Other news, now, and there are fears

:17:05. > :17:08.of further flooding over the next few days as more bad weather hits

:17:09. > :17:11.the region. High winds and heavy rain mean we could see a repeat of

:17:12. > :17:14.last Friday. Where roads and properties were flooded. We'll hear

:17:15. > :17:18.from the Environment Agency in just a moment, but first the efforts of

:17:19. > :17:21.farmers and firemen from this region who are helping those affected by

:17:22. > :17:26.flooding along the Thames and in Somerset.

:17:27. > :17:28.For people in Northampton, the flooding is a painful reminder of

:17:29. > :17:34.this ` the Easter floods of 199 , this ` the Easter floods of 199 ,

:17:35. > :17:39.when two people died and 10,000 people had their homes and

:17:40. > :17:43.businesses ruined. The experience of dealing with Northampton's floods

:17:44. > :17:47.led to the development of the county's own flood rescue team,

:17:48. > :17:51.which is now helping Fire Brigade across the south`east. The memories

:17:52. > :17:57.of the devastating flood is still fresh in the mind of one of the

:17:58. > :18:01.town's MPs. Can I remind the Prime Minister that

:18:02. > :18:06.in 1998, Northampton suffered periods floods. Will the Prime

:18:07. > :18:12.Minister, after this episode has been dealt with, ensure that we

:18:13. > :18:16.don't build on flood plains so that people shouldn't be inconvenienced

:18:17. > :18:21.in this way. But it's not just the emergency

:18:22. > :18:30.services helping out. One Cambridge farmer has set up a Facebook page,

:18:31. > :18:36.asking for donations. That sort of thing could easily

:18:37. > :18:41.happen here. We've been let down by the Environment Agency and

:18:42. > :18:44.government. Apart from Friday's flash floods, this part of the

:18:45. > :18:47.region has escaped relatively unscathed.

:18:48. > :18:53.With rivers on flood alert, field saturated and more rain on the way,

:18:54. > :18:55.both farmers and the emergency services are watching the forecast

:18:56. > :18:58.closely over the coming days. Well, earlier, I spoke to Norman

:18:59. > :19:07.Robinson of the Environment Agency who told me we should be on our

:19:08. > :19:11.guard for the next few days. I think, the worst case for us

:19:12. > :19:15.between now and Friday, we could see the same rainfall as last Friday

:19:16. > :19:21.that top we could be back in the same situation, with rivers very

:19:22. > :19:25.high. The key will be how the water gets from the fields to the rivers,

:19:26. > :19:30.which could lead to some surface water issues locally. There could be

:19:31. > :19:37.some flooding. Dangerous driving conditions?

:19:38. > :19:42.Could be. Last Friday, we saw some is dumb act cars stuck. The general

:19:43. > :19:49.advice for the end of this week is if you see water, don't drive into

:19:50. > :19:51.it. Is there anything that the

:19:52. > :19:55.Environment Agency could be doing to limit the damage?

:19:56. > :20:06.The key thing is keeping the river is clear. Potentially, trees fall.

:20:07. > :20:11.We are out on the ground keeping the rivers clean of debris. We are

:20:12. > :20:15.watching the flood defences to make sure that they are prepared for

:20:16. > :20:21.Friday. In our control centre, we watch the forecast.

:20:22. > :20:27.Your advice to people is to keep intact and the watching?

:20:28. > :20:34.Absolutely. Your forecast will tell you what's coming on Friday. Sign up

:20:35. > :20:38.with our flood warnings direct, and we will tell you if your property is

:20:39. > :20:42.under threat. The main thing is being prepared. Have a floods plan `

:20:43. > :20:47.what would you do if the worst happened? That type of thing is very

:20:48. > :20:54.important. Thank you. This is something It s an

:20:55. > :20:58.unenviable task. You wouldn't want to do. To pack up four million

:20:59. > :21:02.delicate exhibits, ranging in size from a tiny beetle to the skeleton

:21:03. > :21:05.of a whale in just eight months That's the challenge facing workers

:21:06. > :21:08.at the Museum of Zoology in Cambridge. It's got to close for

:21:09. > :21:12.over two years as it undergoes an ?18 million revamp. But more money

:21:13. > :21:17.still needs to be raised. Louise Hubball reports. Moving can be a

:21:18. > :21:26.stressful experience at the best of times. Even more so when your cargo

:21:27. > :21:29.is an extinct river dolphin. There are millions of specimens here from

:21:30. > :21:31.the great White orc, which died out over 150 years ago, to the Tasmanian

:21:32. > :21:35.tiger which was with us until 1 36. tiger which was with us until 1936.

:21:36. > :21:41.Now, all are being packed up as part of the transformation of Cambridge's

:21:42. > :21:45.Museum of Zoology. It's an absolutely huge challenge.

:21:46. > :21:52.You could use the words mammoth task. We have four million specimens

:21:53. > :21:57.in the museum. We have up until September to get them all packed,

:21:58. > :22:00.and then we have to move them to new stores. It's not something that

:22:01. > :22:03.museums do everyday ` we don't pack up all our collections, but this new

:22:04. > :22:05.development means we can have new stores, which means that we can give

:22:06. > :22:08.guided tours around store rooms, and guided tours around store rooms, and

:22:09. > :22:11.see many items as they're being conserved and researched. That will

:22:12. > :22:19.mean access to treasures not normally on display.

:22:20. > :22:23.Many of them connected to Charles Darwin. Darwin set sail for South

:22:24. > :22:26.America aboard the Beagle in 18 1. He collected many species, including

:22:27. > :22:34.these finches, and formed the basis of his ground`breaking theory of

:22:35. > :22:42.evolution. Now, the museum itself is evolving. This is what it will look

:22:43. > :22:48.like in 2016. An impressive ?18 million interactive space, telling

:22:49. > :22:51.the story behind the artefacts. We still need an extra ?3 million to

:22:52. > :22:55.be able to fully realise our ambitions. This is a grand project,

:22:56. > :23:02.a very ambitious project, but we have the collections to match our

:23:03. > :23:06.ambitions. The revamped museum will aim and not

:23:07. > :23:10.just to be about the past, but form part of a wider campus that will

:23:11. > :23:13.draw on current research from world experts based here, who, in turn,

:23:14. > :23:17.will use the collections to try to predict the future of life on Earth.

:23:18. > :23:20.But in the short`term, even the building contractors are but which

:23:21. > :23:35.by then latest project ` a museum moving with the times in an

:23:36. > :23:38.ever`changing world. We've heard about some pretty horrid

:23:39. > :23:42.weather on it's way, but the strong wind is already taking an effect. A

:23:43. > :23:45.tree is down on the East Midlands rail line causing delays through

:23:46. > :23:47.Kettering and there also problems on the line between Ely and Norwich.

:23:48. > :23:58.Julie Reinger hello. Yet more wet weather this

:23:59. > :24:05.afternoon. Here it is on the radar. The heaviest rain producing up to

:24:06. > :24:08.seven millimetres. Accompanied by strong south`westerly winds. These

:24:09. > :24:17.are the strongest gusts, up until 5pm. Tween 50 and 70 mph. During

:24:18. > :24:21.tonight, it looks like some further showers coming in behind that main

:24:22. > :24:31.band of rain. Some could turn wintry, with some sleet and hail

:24:32. > :24:37.mixed in. Lows of `` we should see the winds easing down. Temperatures

:24:38. > :24:44.in rural spot could drop down to freezing. In sheltered areas, we

:24:45. > :24:49.can't rule out some frost. Tomorrow, the system responsible for today's

:24:50. > :24:54.weather pulls away. This low is set to bring more wet and windy weather

:24:55. > :24:58.for Friday. Tomorrow, we are in between. It's not looking too bad.

:24:59. > :25:04.It looks like a scattering of showers again, which could turn

:25:05. > :25:08.wintry. A lot more dry weather, with spells of sunshine. It will be

:25:09. > :25:16.blustery, although not as windy as this afternoon. Temperatures at

:25:17. > :25:20.highs of six degrees. Certainly not feeling the warmest. We finish the

:25:21. > :25:28.day with a few showers around, but largely fine and dry. The outlook:

:25:29. > :25:32.Here we go again! Friday will probably be a dry start, but we are

:25:33. > :25:36.expecting an area of low pressure to push up from the South West,

:25:37. > :25:44.bringing more rain. Heavy at times, and could produce ten millimetres in

:25:45. > :25:48.places. The strongest winds will actually follow in behind the main

:25:49. > :25:53.band of rain, once it has pulled away. We could see some strong to

:25:54. > :26:03.gale`force southerly winds. Into Saturday, when we will hopefully see

:26:04. > :26:08.those winds easing down. Some blustery showers which could turn

:26:09. > :26:14.wintry. Sunday, is looking uncertain. As it stands, a largely

:26:15. > :26:20.fine and dry day. Much lighter winds. Before I go, these are your

:26:21. > :26:34.overnight lows. On Thursday night, frost and ice could be a problem.

:26:35. > :26:41.The jury just didn't buy the defence case for Gary Stretch and Leslie

:26:42. > :26:45.Layton. They said they were scared and were going along with it because

:26:46. > :26:50.they were forced. Prosecution said they could have told the police at

:26:51. > :26:55.any time. This is a case of Harrow converses. It has brought into sharp

:26:56. > :27:01.focus the spotlight on her. What is your take on Dennehy?

:27:02. > :27:06.Might take is based on conversations with detectives, and looking at

:27:07. > :27:10.police tapes. She has no empathy for the victims. She tried to joke with

:27:11. > :27:14.detectives shortly after the attacks. We know that she's very

:27:15. > :27:17.bright, and that she psychopathic. We understand that she had many

:27:18. > :27:23.violent relationships with men and women. We also understand from

:27:24. > :27:27.psychiatrists that it was very likely that she was a victim at some

:27:28. > :27:32.point in her life of serious violence or sexual assault. The

:27:33. > :27:39.secret she will take weather is why she did this.

:27:40. > :27:42.Thank you. All three face prison sentences. The families of those who

:27:43. > :27:45.were killed face a different sentence, and the unanswered