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:00:00. > :00:08.Hello and welcome to Look E`st. In the programme tonight: Accused of

:00:09. > :00:14.masterminding the murder of this grandfather ` a teenager adlits

:00:15. > :00:16.being nearby but denies the killing. Inadequate ` Ofsted's damning

:00:17. > :00:19.verdict on Peterborough's multi`million pound academy but the

:00:20. > :00:25.new head says he's turning things around.

:00:26. > :00:27.More confusion over eating guidelines as researchers fhnd NO

:00:28. > :00:33.definite link between satur`ted fat and heart disease.

:00:34. > :00:34.And mad about the Tour ` thd cyclist who's obsessed with the Tour de

:00:35. > :00:50.France. Good evening. A teenager has told a

:00:51. > :00:54.jury it was just coincidencd that he happened to be in an area at the

:00:55. > :00:57.same time a murder took place. 18`year`old Travis Dixon Ch`rles is

:00:58. > :01:00.one of four teenagers accusdd of killing 65`year`old Sharif Demirsay

:01:01. > :01:07.during a robbery at his homd in Bedfordshire last May. Todax he told

:01:08. > :01:11.the court he'd just been curious about the robbery that had been

:01:12. > :01:19.planned by his friends. Neil Bradford was in court today and

:01:20. > :01:24.joins us now. The prosecution say Travis Dixon

:01:25. > :01:29.Charles was the director of operations in all of this, not only

:01:30. > :01:34.selecting the victim and those involved in the robbery but also

:01:35. > :01:39.acting as lookout on the night. He denies that but says he was aware

:01:40. > :01:45.about the plan by his friends to commit a robbery in the are` but

:01:46. > :01:54.says he wasn't aware of the details. The jury were paid CCTV which showed

:01:55. > :01:58.him walk past the house of Sharif Demirsay on six separate occasions

:01:59. > :02:02.on the day of the robbery. He says he was visiting friends, thd same

:02:03. > :02:06.reason he was there three mhnutes before the murder. He says ht was a

:02:07. > :02:11.coincidence. In May last year, great`grandfather

:02:12. > :02:17.Sharif Demirsay opened the door to his killers. The 65`year`old was

:02:18. > :02:21.stabbed to death. His partndr was also attacked during the rahd for

:02:22. > :02:29.cash and gold. The prosecuthon say Travis Dixon Charles masterlinded

:02:30. > :02:32.the robbery and acted as lookout. They say CCTV shows the thrde

:02:33. > :02:38.teenagers walking towards the home of Sharif Demirsay oil Travhs Dixon

:02:39. > :02:44.Charles weights out of shot. Three minutes later, same three are seen

:02:45. > :02:49.running from the bungalow. 18`year`old Travis Dixon Ch`rles has

:02:50. > :02:52.admitted being near the scene at the time, and he said he knew hhs

:02:53. > :02:57.friends were planning a robbery but he didn't know where or when. He

:02:58. > :03:05.says it was coincidence he was near by at the time. He denies any

:03:06. > :03:09.involvement. The teenager s`id he stayed in the area on the nhght of

:03:10. > :03:13.the robbery because he was curious. When it was put to him by the

:03:14. > :03:19.prosecution that it was a p`ck of lies, he says, no, it was not. He

:03:20. > :03:22.denies all the charges against him, along with 19`year`old Courtney

:03:23. > :03:28.Glynn, a 16`year`old and a 17`year`old. The case continues

:03:29. > :03:30.tomorrow. Inadequate ` that's how Ofsted has

:03:31. > :03:35.described one of Peterborough's academies. The multi`million pound

:03:36. > :03:38.Voyager Academy opened its doors to pupils in 2007. It was the city s

:03:39. > :03:41.first specialist media centre, designed to inspire and get results.

:03:42. > :03:44.But last year Ofsted concluded it "required improvement" and now the

:03:45. > :03:56.latest report says it's inadequate in every area and is in special

:03:57. > :04:00.measures. Stuart Ratcliffe reports. When it opened, this building was

:04:01. > :04:05.said to be as bold as it ambitions. It pledged unrivalled education in

:04:06. > :04:09.the new purpose`built acadely but now the achievement of peoples, the

:04:10. > :04:13.teaching, behaviour and leadership have been branded as inadeqtate

:04:14. > :04:21.Inspectors also noted its rdsults were well below average. It noted

:04:22. > :04:25.below expectations and truancy is rife. Yesterday the princip`l of

:04:26. > :04:31.Voyager Centre sent parents a copy of this letter which said Voyager

:04:32. > :04:35.Centre was found to be inaddquate and was now in special meastres It

:04:36. > :04:40.goes on to say Voyager Centre has now put in place a plan which

:04:41. > :04:43.pledges to improve standards. That letter was written by this lan,

:04:44. > :04:49.brought in to replace the previous principal who left just days after

:04:50. > :04:53.the Ofsted inspection. I think it is very important that

:04:54. > :04:58.icy clearly to parents that I and others are committed to makd sure

:04:59. > :05:02.the education your children get at the Voyager Centre is everything

:05:03. > :05:15.that you want. We want your children to get the education they ddserve to

:05:16. > :05:21.reach the capabilities. When will the changes take place? You can come

:05:22. > :05:27.and see whenever you like. @nd he says that they have clear

:05:28. > :05:32.objectives. All peoples are in uniform, that they are readx to work

:05:33. > :05:36.and they are behaving as thdy should be so that all as staff are

:05:37. > :05:41.overseeing it. We are making sure that every teacher is equipped to

:05:42. > :05:45.teach excellent lessons to lake sure the capacity is there to deliver

:05:46. > :05:54.excellent education at the Voyager Centre. It is clear the rest of the

:05:55. > :05:59.academy has a lot to learn from its sixth form counterparts.

:06:00. > :06:04.Next, allegations that officers from Cambridgeshire tried to turn

:06:05. > :06:07.protesters into police informers. Four people say they were offered

:06:08. > :06:10.money and pressured to spy. The force deny the allegations which

:06:11. > :06:19.Julian Huppert MP has descrhbed as alarming. We'll hear from hhm after

:06:20. > :06:23.this report from Mike Cartwright. In Cambridge, protesters prdssured

:06:24. > :06:29.into becoming informers. Th`t's the accusation against the police. One a

:06:30. > :06:37.member of Unite Against Fascism A single mother aged 23, they say

:06:38. > :06:42.They put a lot of pressure on her to spy on this group. She felt that was

:06:43. > :06:46.immoral, was the word that she used. She thought us, even though she

:06:47. > :06:50.didn't know as long, as fridnds She said she agreed with what wd were

:06:51. > :06:53.doing, the aims of the group, and she felt she didn't want to come

:06:54. > :06:56.back because she didn't want to talk to anyone about the police.

:06:57. > :06:59.She was frightened. There is only one of us who is actually speaking

:07:00. > :07:01.to her. Allegations that Cambridge police

:07:02. > :07:05.from 2010 tried to enlist four campaigners from political groups.

:07:06. > :07:11.Environmentalists, anti`fascists. They were asked to say everxthing in

:07:12. > :07:15.return for expenses. One sahd they were warned they would be prosecuted

:07:16. > :07:19.if they spoke about being rdcruited. Intimidated, they said, pressured.

:07:20. > :07:22.Cambridge police told us thdir offices used covert tactics to

:07:23. > :07:25.gather evidence in accordance to the law to prevent and detect criminal

:07:26. > :07:32.activity but they said they wouldn't engage in the behaviour that has

:07:33. > :07:36.been described. But they ard not criminals, they are campaigners he

:07:37. > :07:39.says. The allegations that protesters in Cambridge werd told to

:07:40. > :07:45.be spies are alarming, says the city's MP.

:07:46. > :07:51.Well, let's speak to the city's MP Julian Huppert who joins us from

:07:52. > :08:00.Westminister now. How worridd are you?

:08:01. > :08:05.I think this is very alarming. There is an important role for thd police

:08:06. > :08:08.to have covert operations and to collect information where there are

:08:09. > :08:13.serious problems but what wd've seen here, as revealed back in November,

:08:14. > :08:18.asking people to spy on student union type activities, I don't think

:08:19. > :08:21.many of us think of that as a hotbed of violence where this would be

:08:22. > :08:26.appropriate. People feel as though they are being threatened and that

:08:27. > :08:31.strikes me as going too far. Have you approached the chidf

:08:32. > :08:38.constable for any explanation? I have spoken to the Chief Constable

:08:39. > :08:45.about this and I have raised it with the chair of the home affairs select

:08:46. > :08:49.committee. He said what happened in Woolwich, we need to make stre that

:08:50. > :08:55.doesn't happen here. Of course, that was horrific charity that wd saw in

:08:56. > :08:59.Woolwich but I don't think this is the same as people who would kill

:09:00. > :09:04.people on the streets. That's the thing. If there are risks to the

:09:05. > :09:08.public, police need to take appropriate steps. The question is

:09:09. > :09:13.what is a risk and what is appropriate? Who draws the line

:09:14. > :09:19.This is why the government hs currently consulting on a ndw set of

:09:20. > :09:22.rules to deal with covert surveillance and these techniques.

:09:23. > :09:25.We have to make sure it is tsed where it is essential and wd would

:09:26. > :09:31.all like to see the police lake us safer like that. If the polhce are

:09:32. > :09:36.using their time trying to lake sure what the student union is s`ying at

:09:37. > :09:42.their meetings, that strikes me as a bad use of resources. Where do we go

:09:43. > :09:48.from here? The police say one thing and the campaign is the othdr? I

:09:49. > :09:54.hope the police will only do it where it is a good use of rdsources

:09:55. > :09:58.and we can change the laws to make that clear. So the police c`n make

:09:59. > :10:01.us safe that not to stop people getting involved and not to go too

:10:02. > :10:05.far. The first of 6,000 tropical plants

:10:06. > :10:08.have arrived at the region's newest holiday park. Some of the plants

:10:09. > :10:11.ending up the subtropical swimming area for Centre Parcs near Woburn

:10:12. > :10:16.have been rescued from around the world. And for the Dutchman who s

:10:17. > :10:24.saved them it's a very spechal relationship.

:10:25. > :10:28.If a job this big you can't just go down to your local garden cdntre,

:10:29. > :10:33.you call in this international tree hunter. He travels the world,

:10:34. > :10:38.sourcing tropical plants thd holiday company needs for its centrdpiece

:10:39. > :10:41.swimming pool. Some are fast growing sustainable bamboo, others have

:10:42. > :10:53.outlived their usefulness for the local people.

:10:54. > :10:57.If the tree becomes too old, they are difficult to get and thdy

:10:58. > :11:08.replant new ones. The head of the village, he sold me that trde.

:11:09. > :11:11.It has taken more than two xears to track down the plants from

:11:12. > :11:17.Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodha and Burma. They have been to other

:11:18. > :11:21.Centre Parcs sites to acclilatise and now they will need strict

:11:22. > :11:25.maintenance to keep them in check. They were growing around 20,000

:11:26. > :11:29.kilos of vegetation a year so it will have to be guided and sold that

:11:30. > :11:33.way, if not, the roof will be lifted open by the trees in a few xears. It

:11:34. > :11:37.is a difficult job. With some trees having a 7000 mile

:11:38. > :11:40.journey, some criticise Centre Parcs for bringing them here but they say

:11:41. > :11:44.outside in the park they have planted thousands of trees from the

:11:45. > :11:50.UK and many of the tropical plants have been rescued from forests about

:11:51. > :11:56.to be destroyed. For Henkins, his mission is a personal one.

:11:57. > :12:00.All the trees have a historx. I know where they came from and I remember

:12:01. > :12:04.the people who helped me with digging them out so they have a

:12:05. > :12:08.personality. I don't have a family but it must feel like when xou give

:12:09. > :12:15.your daughter to a man who will marry her. It is a little bht of a

:12:16. > :12:17.party. It is also a little bit side. Everything about this project is

:12:18. > :12:21.big, even the air conditionhng ducts. Bringing in the plants alone

:12:22. > :12:29.will take another month but no news yet on when the whole park will

:12:30. > :12:36.open. I have never heard anyone speak so

:12:37. > :12:39.fondly about plants. Football and it's a big night for

:12:40. > :12:42.Northampton Town. The Cobbldrs face Rochdale at Sixfields and c`n move

:12:43. > :12:45.out of the League Two releg`tion zone for the first time in lonths.

:12:46. > :12:48.Chris Wilder's side are currently second from bottom as they look to

:12:49. > :12:52.preserve their football league status. Cobblers could give a debut

:12:53. > :12:55.to striker Christian Lopez who is on loan from Huddersfield. But it's a

:12:56. > :12:56.tough test for Cobblers with the visitors Rochdale trying to secure

:12:57. > :13:02.automatic promotion. found asbestos. The findings will

:13:03. > :13:15.delay the clear`up operation and the Health and Safety Executive

:13:16. > :13:18.material. Still to come: The school that

:13:19. > :13:23.specialises in snooker. Plus, the region's shortage of new

:13:24. > :13:47.houses. The firms that want to build but say they are being held back.

:13:48. > :13:53.Deciding which foods are good for you has never been easy. But the

:13:54. > :14:10.warning that saturated fat hs bad fear is now `` is bad for you is now

:14:11. > :14:16.being seen as a simplistic lessage. The research and lies to dozens of

:14:17. > :14:21.studies involving 600,000 pdople. Surprisingly, it found little

:14:22. > :14:24.evidence that switching to polyunsaturated fat lead to any

:14:25. > :14:27.reduction in the risk of he`rt disease. The British Heart

:14:28. > :14:30.Foundation, which co`founded the study, said that the results were

:14:31. > :14:35.surprisingly and more research was needed. But this is not an

:14:36. > :14:41.invitation to gorge on creal cakes or meat pies, most people still eat

:14:42. > :14:47.too much fat over all, as wdll as to many calories. There is strong

:14:48. > :14:51.evidence that the key to a healthy heart remains a balanced and varied

:14:52. > :14:58.diet, rich in vegetables and fruit, as well as taking exercise `nd not

:14:59. > :15:05.smoking. Dr Mike Knapton is the medical

:15:06. > :15:10.director of the British Heart Foundation and joins us now. This

:15:11. > :15:15.seems to be another mixed mdssage. No, this is an improvement on what

:15:16. > :15:21.we already knew. This is a reliable study, a very big study, we can

:15:22. > :15:28.believe what it says. What ht has done is analyse what of othdr

:15:29. > :15:32.studies, put them together `nd said, does the type of fat that wd eat,

:15:33. > :15:41.polyunsaturated, which is the fish and vegetable oils, versus the

:15:42. > :15:46.animal fats, does the type of fat matter? Surprisingly, it fotnd that

:15:47. > :15:50.it had not. It is important to say that the amount of fat prob`bly

:15:51. > :15:54.still does matter. It is basically refining our understanding of what a

:15:55. > :16:01.healthy diet is. The problel is that people will meet `` will only hear

:16:02. > :16:05.half the message and will now think that they can eat anything. I hope

:16:06. > :16:10.that they will not over intdrpret this. It is helpful, becausd the

:16:11. > :16:17.type of fat, with the notable exception of trans fat, found in

:16:18. > :16:23.biscuits, margarine and the lake, which is very bad for the hdart the

:16:24. > :16:27.type of fat does not matter so much. We need to reduce the total amount

:16:28. > :16:32.of fat in the diet and that is because it is very energy ddnse and

:16:33. > :16:38.it is contribute to obesity, diabetes and then all of thd

:16:39. > :16:42.diseases which are associatdd with that, including heart disease. Isn't

:16:43. > :16:47.the truth that we get all of these messages, but what we reallx need to

:16:48. > :16:53.do is just eat a proper bal`nced diet. I could not agree mord. It is

:16:54. > :16:56.absolutely right. There is ` mistake perhaps in spending too much time

:16:57. > :17:01.and rising individual components within the diet, whether th`t be

:17:02. > :17:05.different types of fat or stgar What I think you need to do is to

:17:06. > :17:13.eat a balanced diet, which hs rich in fresh fruit, vegetables, lean

:17:14. > :17:18.meat. Try to cut down on salt, sugar and total fat and do that alongside

:17:19. > :17:23.a healthy lifestyle. Actually, at the end of the day, the foods that

:17:24. > :17:28.people should eat should be the foods that they enjoy, becatse it is

:17:29. > :17:33.difficult to stick to a diet that you do not enjoy. Healthy dhet,

:17:34. > :17:39.fresh fruit, fresh vegetablds, lean meat, is the sort of thing that I

:17:40. > :17:46.would recommend in my surgery. And enjoy it. And enjoy it.

:17:47. > :17:49.Tomorrow in his Budget, the Chancellor is expected to ghve more

:17:50. > :17:52.help to home`buyers, to get the housing market moving again. But

:17:53. > :17:55.there's still an acute shortage of new homes in the East, becatse we're

:17:56. > :17:59.not building enough. In this region we need to btild at

:18:00. > :18:02.least 20,000 new homes everx year to meet demand. But last year we only

:18:03. > :18:06.managed 11,000. One reason for that is that the number of small building

:18:07. > :18:15.companies has fallen by 50% since 2007. Here's our Business

:18:16. > :18:19.Correspondent Richard Bond. Britain's biggest builders `re

:18:20. > :18:25.booming. Across our region they are putting up thousands of new homes.

:18:26. > :18:36.This development is just ne`r Cambridge. The East needs lots of

:18:37. > :18:45.new homes. It is reckoned wd need at least 20,000 per year, but last year

:18:46. > :18:48.we only built 11,000. Big btilders are increasing out substanthally,

:18:49. > :18:54.but allowing on them `` but relying on them alone will not suffhcient.

:18:55. > :18:57.The real problem is that sm`ller builders have not been building at

:18:58. > :19:00.all over the last five or shx years and until they are able to get back

:19:01. > :19:07.into the market again and wd will not fill the gap. Is it trud that

:19:08. > :19:13.small builders have given up? Chris runs a construction firm based in

:19:14. > :19:19.Colchester, it hires out eqtipment. But until the recession he built

:19:20. > :19:26.houses as well, about five xear He no longer does this though. Banks

:19:27. > :19:29.are reluctant to lend to thd small developer and the planning process

:19:30. > :19:36.is still slow and laborious and I think that the final thing hs the

:19:37. > :19:41.land banks that the larger developer holds, leaving it very diffhcult for

:19:42. > :19:47.the smaller developers to fhnd the land. Hundreds of small builders

:19:48. > :19:49.have gone bust, or, like Chris, just stopped house`building to

:19:50. > :19:57.concentrate on other things. Big house`builders deny holding huge

:19:58. > :20:06.land banks, but the Tripoli have `` typically have five years's up their

:20:07. > :20:12.sleeves. If they do not devdlop the land then the city will takd a dim

:20:13. > :20:20.view of it, they do not audht. They require a land bank, but thdy do not

:20:21. > :20:25.audit. `` they do not hang onto it. Experts warn that without m`ny more

:20:26. > :20:31.we will be saddled with a pdrmanent housing shortage.

:20:32. > :20:35.Lots of schools nowadays spdcialise in single subjects ` languages,

:20:36. > :20:37.science, music. But how abott this ` a school in Essex that spechalises

:20:38. > :20:41.in snooker. Moulsham High in Chelmsford is one

:20:42. > :20:44.of only 12 in the country to be chosen for the Cue Zone project

:20:45. > :20:47.which promotes snooker as a sport and a way of improving maths. And

:20:48. > :21:00.today one of the all`time greats dropped in to help.

:21:01. > :21:04.To this generation hears th`t celebrity who recently headdd into

:21:05. > :21:07.the jungle for a reality TV. To my generation hears the sporting

:21:08. > :21:18.legends that dominated snooker we before these youngsters werd born or

:21:19. > :21:21.even worth twinkle in anyond's I. Renowned for rubbing down the

:21:22. > :21:25.opposition. You are getting very animated year, this is something

:21:26. > :21:32.that you love. It is a game that has done me proud and hopefully I have

:21:33. > :21:36.been a good ambassador for the game. Steve Davis was of course world

:21:37. > :21:42.champion six times, a legend in a sport which has its roots in

:21:43. > :21:51.smoke`filled shady snooker halls. Today it is very refreshing, it is

:21:52. > :21:53.all about building in challdnges involving numerous they and literacy

:21:54. > :22:00.and getting the more academhc way respondent. One of the core values

:22:01. > :22:05.of the school is to enrich, this is a classic example of enrichlent for

:22:06. > :22:11.our students. I have had so much fun. I have won every singld game,

:22:12. > :22:16.it is relieved good, I am enjoying it. I think it is a better way of

:22:17. > :22:20.getting people involved and helping them with their numerous ear and

:22:21. > :22:35.maths, because it is a fun way of doing it and it gets people more

:22:36. > :22:42.involved. `` New . I was fortunate to be involved in the jungld, that

:22:43. > :22:47.was stressful times. This is a different type of day, this is

:22:48. > :22:51.manic, nonstop. Classroom tdaching of course once relied heavily on

:22:52. > :22:56.slate and chop, it still dods in a way.

:22:57. > :22:59.In less than four months' thme, 112 days to be precise, one of the

:23:00. > :23:03.world's biggest sporting spdctacles comes here to this region.

:23:04. > :23:07.One stage of the Tour de Fr`nce will start in Cambridge and wind its way

:23:08. > :23:12.down through Essex to London. Thousands of fans will line the

:23:13. > :23:17.route, including Pete Martin. Pete has been a fan for 16 years and has

:23:18. > :23:26.a house full of Tour stuff to prove it.

:23:27. > :23:31.Pete Martin has always loved cycling, but in 1998 he went to

:23:32. > :23:34.visit the Tour de France and fell in love with the event. He has been

:23:35. > :23:40.back every year since and h`s photographs of all of the bhg names,

:23:41. > :23:54.sprinter Mark Cavendish, thd 20 2 when Bradley Wiggins, and Chris

:23:55. > :23:59.fruit and `` Chris Froom. Hhs home here houses is large collection of

:24:00. > :24:07.Tour de France memorabilia. The result library of books, buses, cars

:24:08. > :24:12.and vans. His two`year old son is even named after the founder of the

:24:13. > :24:20.true difference `` the Tour de France. And you collect somdthing

:24:21. > :24:27.every year? Yes, a bag full year is the aim, but it can be anything

:24:28. > :24:40.Posters, glasses, models. The bigger the bag the better. The tour to

:24:41. > :24:48.France is incredibly well`organised. But they leave signs behind, fans

:24:49. > :24:52.like me will pick them up. Pete has got signs, shirts, hats, yot name

:24:53. > :24:56.it. He has even staged his own exhibition in recent years `nd

:24:57. > :25:01.cannot wait for Monday the 7th of July when the tour goes frol

:25:02. > :25:06.Cambridge to London. It is `n event in itself, it is a circus anyway.

:25:07. > :25:12.Just being there, even if you do not get to see much of the writdrs, it

:25:13. > :25:19.is just a great event. `` mtch of the cyclists. Who knows, his little

:25:20. > :25:28.son might even be a Tour de France cyclist one day.

:25:29. > :25:39.Time for the weather. High pressure has brought us plenty

:25:40. > :25:44.of dry weather, but there are signs that it is changing. Some hdavy

:25:45. > :25:48.downpours and showers today, it almost felt like April showdrs with

:25:49. > :25:53.some sunshine in between. Most of them have cleared away. Tonhght does

:25:54. > :25:57.look largely dry, some clear spells around and some patchy cloud will

:25:58. > :26:02.come and go. Tebbutt zoonothc spectre to get low enough to bring

:26:03. > :26:07.us frost. Five or six Celsits our lowest. High pressure just `bout

:26:08. > :26:11.holding on tomorrow and that will be a fine day for us here in the east.

:26:12. > :26:26.A weather front approaching from the West will mean that things will hot

:26:27. > :26:28.up for the afternoon. Some parts of region may record the highest

:26:29. > :26:39.temperatures in the entire country tomorrow. 18, or perhaps evdn 1

:26:40. > :26:46.Celsius as possible. It staxs dry and fine for the afternoon. This is

:26:47. > :26:51.our pressure pattern for thd end of the week. The weather front crossing

:26:52. > :26:57.the country. It marks the boundary between the warm air that wd have

:26:58. > :27:01.had and much cooler air. It means cooler temperatures. Quite ` bit

:27:02. > :27:06.colder by day and the return of some frost overnight. Also some showery

:27:07. > :27:10.conditions. We still have a couple more warm days to come, Thursday is

:27:11. > :27:16.expected to be pretty good `cross the eastern half. 16 or 17 Celsius

:27:17. > :27:19.the possible height, it will turn increasingly cloudy from thd West

:27:20. > :27:25.End by overnight we will st`rt to get rain spreading in, it should be

:27:26. > :27:28.out of the way by Friday. Cooler temperatures, it will feel puite

:27:29. > :27:34.different after those warm conditions that we have expdrienced.

:27:35. > :27:42.Look at those overnight lows that could bring us some frost.

:27:43. > :27:46.We are still muddled about trans fats. Goodbye.