02/02/2012

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:00:06. > :00:10.Good evening. And welcome to Look North. The headlines tonight. A

:00:10. > :00:14.woman dies in a suspected carbon monoxide leak. We will have the

:00:14. > :00:19.details from the scene live. A landscape that has provided

:00:19. > :00:22.inspiration but is rubbish blighting the view of the Yorkshire

:00:22. > :00:27.woels? Loads of people, they come in here in summer time, and they

:00:27. > :00:32.won't want to look at a heap of rubbish. A city divided over the

:00:32. > :00:36.need for late-night shopping through the year. And the former

:00:36. > :00:40.soldier training to climb the world's highest mountain. Join me

:00:40. > :00:50.for the latest on the risk of snow this weekend. There is an early

:00:50. > :00:54.

:00:54. > :00:59.warning in force. More coming up Good evening. A woman has died and

:00:59. > :01:04.a man has had to be rescued from flats in Cleethorpes after a

:01:04. > :01:12.suspected poisonous gas leak. The gas, is thought to have been carbon

:01:12. > :01:18.monoxide. An investigation is under way at the scene on Bar Croft Road.

:01:18. > :01:22.What can you tell us about this Lindsay? I can tell you that a

:01:22. > :01:27.postmortem examination is being carried out on the body of a lady

:01:27. > :01:30.in her 50s who was found in this flat last night. Firefighters broke

:01:30. > :01:34.into the property where wearing breathing apparatus because their

:01:34. > :01:39.monitors were show hag the gas seeping out were so high. A

:01:39. > :01:42.gentleman on the bottom floor was saved. Another people from

:01:42. > :01:46.neighbouring properties were evacuated, but this is such a

:01:46. > :01:52.tragic loss of life. We found out this community know all too well

:01:52. > :01:55.the dangers of this silent killer. This is anary where with a strong

:01:55. > :02:00.Neighbourhood Watch group. A group who just last year distributed

:02:00. > :02:05.carbon monoxide alarms to its residents. But it appears the lady

:02:05. > :02:11.in this first floor flat wasn't using hers. Levels of the gas were

:02:11. > :02:16.so high, it act vaited next door's alarm. We found severe high

:02:16. > :02:19.concentration of carbon monoxide, to this property. We managed to

:02:19. > :02:24.alert the gentleman in the top floor flat who came out of the

:02:24. > :02:27.building, we had to force entry into the lower, into the ground

:02:27. > :02:32.floor flat, where unfortunately we found a lady believed to be in her

:02:32. > :02:38.50s, that had died. It is not the first death in Cleethorpes linked

:02:38. > :02:43.to the gas. In 2006, a man died after a suspected leak in an

:02:43. > :02:47.Alexander Road flat. It has left neighbours shocked Us with having

:02:47. > :02:52.children ourselves, we are going to get our boiler and everything else

:02:52. > :02:57.checked out, to be on the safe side. It is scary. You need to get your

:02:57. > :03:02.appliances checked over. Every year it is estimated that round 4,000

:03:02. > :03:05.people go to Accident & Emergency with symptoms to carbon monoxide

:03:05. > :03:09.poise nince. 200 people are hospitalised and there are round 50

:03:09. > :03:14.deaths in England and Wales. cold spells such as we experience

:03:14. > :03:18.now, heaters and appliances that haven't been used for some time,

:03:18. > :03:23.that haven't been serviced are found to be faulty, and that

:03:23. > :03:25.released carbon monoxide into the property, if the property is not

:03:25. > :03:28.adequately ventilated. Humberside Police will begin an investigation.

:03:29. > :03:36.It is likely to focus on the gas safety checks in this rented

:03:36. > :03:40.property. Lindsay, how can other households avoid this happening to

:03:40. > :03:44.them? Well, if they haven't used a gas fire or heater since it was

:03:44. > :03:47.cold last year, then get it checkled by a qualified technician,

:03:47. > :03:50.the temptation during this cold spell is just to switch it on, but

:03:50. > :03:55.we are told by fire safety officials that that is a dangerous

:03:55. > :04:01.hinge to do. If you live in a rented property, ask your landlord

:04:01. > :04:05.to see the documentation on his gas safety checks, but arguably most

:04:05. > :04:10.important of all it is to install a carbon monoxide alarm. They only

:04:10. > :04:15.cost a few pounds and I am sure the neighbours to this house would

:04:15. > :04:20.testify that is money well spent. Joining me from Leeds is saysy

:04:20. > :04:24.Roger, she lost her son Dominic to carbon monoxide poisoning in 2004.

:04:24. > :04:28.She has set up a campaign to warn others about the dangers. Good

:04:28. > :04:32.evening to you. Good evening. is this gas so dangerous? Because

:04:32. > :04:35.it is invisible. It is like a ghost. It is called the silent killer

:04:35. > :04:40.because you can't see it, you can't smell it, and there is no way you

:04:41. > :04:45.can tell it is there. How can we get the message across to people it

:04:45. > :04:49.is so dangerous? We just need to, you know, check on people, make

:04:49. > :04:53.sure they have their carbon monoxide alarms, make sure the

:04:53. > :04:57.landlords are giving the tenants gas safety certificates. If they

:04:57. > :05:02.are not the landlords are breaking the law on this. What is your

:05:02. > :05:07.message to people tonight, about the risks of this, as you call, the

:05:07. > :05:10.silent killer? My main thing is get your gas appliances check by a gas

:05:10. > :05:14.safe engineer and buy a carbon monoxide alarm. I didn't have a

:05:14. > :05:17.carbon monoxide alarm when I lost Dominic, and in my case, the carbon

:05:17. > :05:21.monoxide was coming from next door's house, into mine, so

:05:21. > :05:25.although your appliances might be fine, what about next doors? You

:05:25. > :05:30.cannot risk it on your family. in a way, yours is obviously a

:05:30. > :05:35.dreadful story, in a way you need to tackle the neighbours as well..

:05:35. > :05:38.That is it. You know what I mean. We are not gas -- gas experts at

:05:39. > :05:43.the end of the day. If it is going to come from next door, then, you

:05:43. > :05:47.know, it is a real big problem. After a story like yours, going

:05:47. > :05:52.back to 2004 and hearing another one, it must depress you immensely.

:05:52. > :05:58.Yes, it does, but, you know, it is something so horrible, that it

:05:58. > :06:05.keeps it in the press and it gets to people, the awareness, that is

:06:05. > :06:12.what we have do. Thank you for your time. Now, in a moment on the

:06:12. > :06:17.programme. Confusion over the final resting place of Christopher Alder.

:06:17. > :06:21.Now, they have inspired the paintings of hock but visitors say

:06:21. > :06:24.the Yorkshire Wolds are being blighted by fly-tippers. The new

:06:24. > :06:28.exhibition of the artist's paintings is on display at the

:06:28. > :06:32.Royal Academy in London, drawing huge crowds. Now there are fears

:06:32. > :06:40.that the real landscape of the Wolds is being ruined by the waste

:06:40. > :06:46.that is being dumped there. A work of natural art. Wrecked by human

:06:46. > :06:49.hand. David Hockney may have put the woulds on a tourist map, but

:06:49. > :06:59.today press criticism his paintings have airbrush out a litter strewn

:06:59. > :07:03.reality. Art Gallery silence replaced by frantic cleaningful.

:07:03. > :07:08.is a problem fly-tipping up ehere, it has been for a number of years,

:07:08. > :07:11.now then David Hockney has put this exhibition on in London, loads of

:07:11. > :07:15.people will be coming here in summer time and they won't want to

:07:15. > :07:18.look at a heap of rubbish. tourist group welcome to Yorkshire

:07:18. > :07:22.believe the Hockney trail could bring thousands of visitors here,

:07:22. > :07:28.but once they have come here, will they come back when you are seeing

:07:28. > :07:31.the likes of all this rubbish being picked up by the East Riding of

:07:31. > :07:37.Yorkshire council. But council clearing is limited to public land

:07:37. > :07:40.so on private property the gas canisters are staying put. And that

:07:40. > :07:45.is frustrating for Billy Pickering's stables nearby which

:07:45. > :07:48.fear a tourism backlash. We rely on the holiday makers who love the

:07:48. > :07:52.open countryside. They don't want to be seeing this sort of thing.

:07:52. > :07:55.The council are wonderful, you know, as soon as it has been there a few

:07:55. > :08:00.days they gather it up and take it away. The worst problem is what has

:08:00. > :08:06.blown into the woods and anything that is dumped there. Clearing fly

:08:06. > :08:11.tipping costs more than � 00,000 a year. Graham Long says he has seen

:08:11. > :08:16.an improvement over last ten years. I don't think it is as bad as it

:08:16. > :08:22.was 20, 30 years ago. If grow back to old days you could see

:08:22. > :08:25.mattresses and all sorts but you don't see as much as they there

:08:25. > :08:30.used to be. There is no need. can take it to the tip. I doesn't

:08:30. > :08:35.it doesn't cost you. They are not foreigners they do it, they are

:08:35. > :08:40.your next door neighbour, our villagers. It is basically a

:08:40. > :08:43.disgrace. Tonight we are told the council wants the Wolds to be

:08:43. > :08:52.officially recognised as an area of outstanding natural beauty. But

:08:52. > :08:56.they may first need a few more trips to the tip. Contact details

:08:56. > :09:00.coming up, earlier I spoke to John Skidmore from the East Riding of

:09:00. > :09:03.Yorkshire council. I asked him what the council is doing to tackle the

:09:03. > :09:08.fly-tipping. We live in a beautiful tart of -- part of the country here,

:09:08. > :09:14.and the council works hard in keeping the roads, the grass verges

:09:14. > :09:19.and the public areas clean and tidy. The areas we have in the Wolds, the

:09:19. > :09:23.dumping is on private land, and clearly, we will, if we find

:09:23. > :09:27.evidence, prosecute those who are illegally depositing waste on

:09:27. > :09:32.private land and will take tough action through the courts. Clearly

:09:32. > :09:36.it is the land owner's responsibility where it is on

:09:36. > :09:38.private lands. People have been texting me, saying if you fine

:09:38. > :09:42.people properly they would stop it but they are not, they are getting

:09:42. > :09:45.away with it. Where we have evidence, Peter, and we have a

:09:45. > :09:49.track record of success through the court, but it is down to

:09:49. > :09:52.magistrates and the Crown Courts who set the level of fine, we will

:09:52. > :09:56.take tough action, and without hesitation. Take people through the

:09:56. > :10:00.courts, because there is no need to despoil the beautiful country side

:10:01. > :10:05.here in the East Riding, and we will take tough action. You are

:10:05. > :10:11.working fast to sort this out it has had National Policety today.

:10:11. > :10:15.Can the media take some credit for that? Peter, we have an ongoing

:10:15. > :10:19.operation in the East Riding where we constantly check and maintain

:10:19. > :10:24.and remove any waste that is illegally deposited on the roads,

:10:24. > :10:30.on the grass verge, if it is on public land. We want residents to

:10:30. > :10:36.use the facilities we provide and not dump in the East Riding, but

:10:36. > :10:40.clearly, we are working with the private land owners and today one

:10:40. > :10:44.agreed that the council would remove the waste, at his expense so

:10:44. > :10:47.it is not cost to the general public here. Your message tonight

:10:47. > :10:52.to those who are fly-tipping, particularly maybe small firms, we

:10:52. > :10:55.have Ian the gas canisters there, it doesn't sound as if it is a

:10:55. > :11:00.private individual. Your message is what? The message to those people

:11:00. > :11:03.is where we have evidence and we get reports from residents we will

:11:04. > :11:07.take tough accuse shund and pursue them from the courts and go for the

:11:07. > :11:11.maximum fine, because of a beautiful part of the country here

:11:11. > :11:17.in the East Riding and we want that for our residents and to support

:11:17. > :11:21.business. Thank you. I would be interested foe what you think of

:11:21. > :11:31.this one. Not just in the would bus what do you think of this? What

:11:31. > :11:33.

:11:33. > :11:41.needs to be done to stop fly- tipping. Start your text with Look

:11:41. > :11:46.North. I look forward to hearing of your thoughts on fly-tipping. Now,

:11:46. > :11:50.some more news round our area, the family of missing Hull man Stuart

:11:50. > :11:54.Gilson are offering a �2,000 reward for information that helps them

:11:54. > :11:57.find him. Today, search teams have been scouring the banks of the

:11:57. > :12:01.River Humber and the river Hull. The 21-year-old was last seen on

:12:01. > :12:04.the Drypool Bridge in Hull on Saturday, after a night out with

:12:05. > :12:09.friends. His family say it is totally out of character. The man

:12:09. > :12:14.who died after a police siege in Lincolnshire has been formally

:12:14. > :12:17.identified as Barry Horspool. The 61-year-old died at his home on

:12:17. > :12:22.Tuesday evening. Armed police had been called to the house on chapel

:12:22. > :12:25.gate after a firearms incident. A police officer was also injured. A

:12:25. > :12:32.second week of strike action by imham based tanker drivers has been

:12:32. > :12:36.suspected for talks. Staff employed by Wincanton have been disputing

:12:36. > :12:40.changes to pay and condition k conditions. Discussions are taking

:12:40. > :12:47.place between the company and the unions. One of Hull's largest

:12:47. > :12:50.employers says it is pleased with the annual results. Smith & Nephew

:12:50. > :12:54.says the Hull operation is performing well. It has warned that

:12:54. > :12:58.500 jobs will be cut from its global work force over the next

:12:58. > :13:02.three years as part of plans to reduce costs. Late-night shopping

:13:02. > :13:08.in Lincoln will continue even though the number of stores taking

:13:08. > :13:12.part has dropped. The scheme began last April, but since then, round

:13:12. > :13:16.40 of the 100 city centre shops which signed up have pulled out.

:13:16. > :13:22.Blaming a lack of demand. Organisers say they need to give it

:13:22. > :13:26.more time to become established. Empty streets with barely anyone

:13:26. > :13:30.round. This was what late-night shopping looked like in Lincoln

:13:30. > :13:40.last October. Scenes that prompted many shops to pull out. But today,

:13:40. > :13:43.

:13:43. > :13:46.organisers insist late opening on a This is the same pattern when

:13:46. > :13:53.Sunday trading started. Disappointing, but it needs to

:13:53. > :14:01.build. We want to maintain this, so people know there's Derry, late

:14:01. > :14:06.nights is a Lincoln. When later opening first started, more than

:14:06. > :14:10.100 shops took part. Now there is only around 60. Shops are split

:14:10. > :14:15.between those who were carrying on and those who say it is not worth

:14:16. > :14:22.their while. The it was not very viable. You have to pay staff costs,

:14:22. > :14:26.shop costs, and we were not making the money to warrant opening.

:14:26. > :14:33.can be quite yet, but we only need a few customers to make it

:14:33. > :14:36.worthwhile. -- it can be quiet. It across East Yorkshire and

:14:36. > :14:42.Lincolnshire, authorities are trying different ways to help

:14:42. > :14:45.retailers. South Kesteven district council has invested �18,000 in

:14:45. > :14:52.shop fronts improvements. In Driffield, local shops have started

:14:52. > :14:55.a loyalty scheme for customers. In Brigg and Scunthorpe, North

:14:55. > :15:02.Lincolnshire are offering free short-term parking to encourage

:15:02. > :15:09.more shoppers. Many shoppers have still to embrace late night

:15:09. > :15:14.shopping. It is a bit cold but in summer, more likely to come out.

:15:14. > :15:19.it will seem to manage without. Some shops say they are willing to

:15:19. > :15:25.give let 98 -- some shops say they are willing to give late opening

:15:25. > :15:33.another try it once the customers are there.

:15:33. > :15:37.Let us know is enough being done in your area or?

:15:37. > :15:41.Hundar that people have failed to have their bins emptied in East

:15:41. > :15:45.Riding because the council says it has had too much recycling to

:15:45. > :15:50.collect. Some residents in Ellerton and Brough have been told to leave

:15:50. > :15:55.their bins on the street until a council has the capacity to take

:15:55. > :16:02.their glass, paper and plastics away. The council says it hopes to

:16:02. > :16:07.have played the back lock -- the council hopes to have cleared the

:16:07. > :16:12.backlog by the weekend. It looks a mess. We tried to recycle as much

:16:12. > :16:17.as possible. I am annoyed about that. They could let us know what

:16:17. > :16:24.is happening. We have left our bins out since Monday, in case they do

:16:24. > :16:27.come back. Still ahead: Confusion over the final resting place of

:16:27. > :16:37.Christopher Alder. Tackling the world's highest

:16:37. > :16:40.

:16:40. > :16:48.mountain. A former soldier prepares Keep the pictures coming in.

:16:48. > :16:54.Tonight's is of Spurn Point and was taken by Alan Dalgairns. Thank you

:16:54. > :17:02.for that. Another picture tomorrow. It looks cold tonight.

:17:02. > :17:08.I do the forecast around here! A message saying, just seen Peter

:17:08. > :17:18.running past our shop looking tanned and wearing a cheap and Iraq.

:17:18. > :17:18.

:17:18. > :17:25.You're so classic! I was in a coffee shop.

:17:25. > :17:32.We have had a few flurries of snow across our region today. This was

:17:32. > :17:37.Boston, and this was Glanford Park. They have the covers in preparation

:17:37. > :17:41.for this week's fixture. If it was like that in London, things would

:17:41. > :17:49.have grounded to wear a halt. Seriously, we have a weather

:17:49. > :17:52.warning in place for the weekend. We reckon it will be a feature for

:17:53. > :17:57.the end of Saturday, into a Saturday evening and night. There

:17:57. > :18:07.could be some heavy snowfall. I will be a new radio station

:18:07. > :18:17.tomorrow and back on BBC Look North. It is a -- it is an important

:18:17. > :18:17.

:18:17. > :18:24.forecast for Saturday. You can see why we have had snow flurries. This

:18:24. > :18:29.thicker cloud has been edging him from the North Sea. I think we will

:18:29. > :18:36.see further snow flurries this evening and overnight, especially

:18:36. > :18:41.towards the coast. Further west, the cloud will gradually melt away.

:18:41. > :18:51.Temperatures will be down to minus four, minus five. That is 23

:18:51. > :18:54.

:18:54. > :19:02.degrees Fahrenheit. There could be some cloud left Dover and Grand

:19:02. > :19:07.Prix Lincolnshire and Norfolk coast. Most places will have some sunshine

:19:07. > :19:15.tomorrow, although that might turn hazy. Temperatures really

:19:15. > :19:25.struggling. Over the world, not getting above freezing point.

:19:25. > :19:27.

:19:27. > :19:32.Dashed over the Wolds. Saturday, a You will have details tomorrow.

:19:32. > :19:38.You'll be all over the radio station like to cheaper code.

:19:38. > :19:43.Not as cheap as yours! You walk into that!

:19:43. > :19:47.I certainly did. Now, 11 years after he should have

:19:47. > :19:53.been buried, disagreement surrounds the final resting place of

:19:53. > :19:57.Christopher Alder. Mr all but died in custody at a police station in

:19:57. > :20:05.Hull in 1998. It is thought a mix- up at the elite mortuary led to the

:20:05. > :20:11.body of a woman, Grace Kamara, being buried in his place.

:20:11. > :20:15.The quiet calm of Hull's Western Cemetery will be disturbed and what

:20:15. > :20:19.was thought to be Christopher Alder's grave is exude. It seems

:20:19. > :20:28.likely the grave contains the remains of Grace Kamara, who died

:20:28. > :20:38.in 1999. There is growing confusion as to who should occupy that crave.

:20:38. > :20:41.

:20:41. > :20:51.-- Christopher Alder's grave is exude. Grace Kamara's family want

:20:51. > :20:55.her body to be returned there, as her body has the compose their.

:20:55. > :21:03.brother of Christopher Alder told me how shocked and upset he is. He

:21:03. > :21:08.said that the family thought his daughter's ashes would be returned

:21:08. > :21:12.to the grave. The next few weeks ago only likely to add to the

:21:12. > :21:20.distress of the families involved. Degrade will be exude, then DNA

:21:20. > :21:23.tests are likely to confirm the remains as being Grace Kamara. A

:21:23. > :21:29.second funeral for Christopher will take place shortly afterwards, but

:21:29. > :21:36.there is a question as to where his final resting place should be. The

:21:36. > :21:41.families are united in their quest for information. What stop them in

:21:41. > :21:46.2000, when Christopher's body was in a better condition, Grace

:21:46. > :21:51.Kamara's body was in a better condition, what stops them finding

:21:51. > :21:55.out them? I while the exhumation is scheduled for February 23rd, the

:21:55. > :22:02.final resting places for Christopher Alder and Grace Kamara

:22:02. > :22:06.could be harder to resolve. Thank you for your messages about

:22:06. > :22:11.our story that David Cameron has admitted he is disappointed at the

:22:11. > :22:17.UK losing a �10 billion aircraft order to France. He was responding

:22:17. > :22:21.to criticism from David Davis, who says India should be buying

:22:21. > :22:25.British-built Typhoons. We were talking about it on the programme

:22:25. > :22:35.last night. There was a big response on this. Many echoed the

:22:35. > :22:59.

:22:59. > :23:03.Thank you for all of theirs. He it looks as though Grimsby

:23:03. > :23:09.Town's future has been secured, thanks to the sale of a former

:23:09. > :23:15.player. John Fenty has confirmed the club will take a 25 % cut of

:23:15. > :23:18.Ryan Bennett's feet after he moved from Peterborough to Norwich.

:23:18. > :23:22.Scunthorpe United are set to name up to three new players for their

:23:22. > :23:28.game with Walsall on Saturday. They include the ex Hull City striker

:23:28. > :23:34.Jon Parkin and the Iron's former central defender David Mirfin.

:23:34. > :23:40.This year marks the Queen's diamond jubilee, and we would like to help

:23:40. > :23:45.celebrate this event. 60 years ago, the former Princess Elizabeth

:23:45. > :23:50.became Queen. These are the first pictures of her returning to the

:23:50. > :23:53.country in 1952 after learning of her father's debt. We would like

:23:53. > :24:02.your memories of that moment, and let us know if you have met the

:24:02. > :24:11.Queen. Here are how you can get in touch. -- here are the details of

:24:11. > :24:15.Eight former soldier from Lincoln has joined a group of injured

:24:15. > :24:20.servicemen who are training to climb Mount Everest to raise money

:24:20. > :24:26.for charity. Right form and Chris Gwilt lost his hearing during be

:24:26. > :24:31.grenade attack. -- Write For man Chris quilt. He travelled to the

:24:31. > :24:36.North Pole last year with Prince Harry. They hope to raise �2

:24:37. > :24:40.million. The Lake District made from the

:24:40. > :24:47.backdrop for the latest training exercise, but soon, these soldiers

:24:47. > :24:52.will be climbing up something a little bigger, Mount Everest. Among

:24:52. > :24:58.them is Chris Gwilt from Lincoln. Eight grenade struck the wall

:24:58. > :25:03.behind me. I lost hearing in both ears. I have an implant and a

:25:03. > :25:08.hearing aid. Tackling the world's highest mountain will mean testing

:25:08. > :25:13.them south to the limit. Like the other soldiers he is climbing with,

:25:13. > :25:18.Chris's condition will bring extra challenges. My hearing aid and

:25:18. > :25:25.implants are not waterproof. They can be damaged with prolonged

:25:25. > :25:29.exposure to water, so I have to be careful about that. I was involved

:25:29. > :25:35.in a petrol bomb incident which left me with their it is 7% burns.

:25:35. > :25:39.I have to be careful about frostbite. For me, it is a balance

:25:39. > :25:43.issue. My arm is a dead weight. This is not the first time injured

:25:43. > :25:53.soldiers have embarked on such a challenge. Last year, a prince --

:25:53. > :25:54.

:25:55. > :26:00.big group went to the North Pole, taking Prince Harry with them.

:26:00. > :26:06.think it is good to help the charity and make people more aware

:26:06. > :26:14.of disabled and injured people, especially soldiers in that state.

:26:14. > :26:21.Personally, I think I will enjoy it. So far, they have climbed up the

:26:21. > :26:27.world's aides highest mountain. They will head for Everest in March.

:26:27. > :26:31.Let's have a recap of the headlines. Prince William flies into the

:26:31. > :26:36.Falklands and the diplomatic row between Britain and Argentina.

:26:36. > :26:41.A woman dies in a suspected carbon monoxide leak.

:26:41. > :26:48.Tomorrow: A frosty start them a spells of sunshine. It will be

:26:48. > :26:54.bitterly cold, as we head from Paul. Top temperatures around one or two

:26:54. > :26:58.Celsius. Response coming in on the subject of fly-tipping. Chris says,

:26:58. > :27:03.you have to ask why people engage in fly-tipping, it is to avoid

:27:03. > :27:13.waste disposal costs, councils need to make it free and easy to dispose

:27:13. > :27:15.

:27:15. > :27:20.of all waste. Liz agrees, maybe if councils let people use recycling

:27:20. > :27:25.resources for free, it would not be an issue. Somebody says, it is

:27:25. > :27:30.disgusting that people use the countryside in this way. Paul says,