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:00:00. > :00:00.European Union after 44 years of membership. That's all from the BBC

:00:07. > :00:10.Good evening and welcome to a special BBC Look North from Boston.

:00:11. > :00:19.We are live by the River Witham in the town centre.

:00:20. > :00:24.Three quarters of people here voted to leave the European Union,

:00:25. > :00:29.that's the highest number anywhere in the country.

:00:30. > :00:35.Today, their wish is coming true and we'll being finding

:00:36. > :00:37.Today, their wish is coming true and we'll be finding out

:00:38. > :00:44.what they want Britain outside the European Union to look like.

:00:45. > :00:50.This is an historic moment from which there can be no turning back.

:00:51. > :00:51.Britain is leaving the European Union.

:00:52. > :00:54.As Article 50 is triggered, we look at the role Lincolnshire

:00:55. > :01:00.and East Yorkshire played in taking the UK out of the EU.

:01:01. > :01:07.We are going to take this opportunity to build a stronger,

:01:08. > :01:10.fairer Britain, a country that our children and grandchildren are proud

:01:11. > :01:14.to call home. I will be live at Westminster, where

:01:15. > :01:15.most of our MPs say they are determined to make a success of

:01:16. > :01:16.Brexit. The changing face of a town -

:01:17. > :01:19.we look at how different communities have been affected as Boston

:01:20. > :01:28.prepares for Brexit. I haven't cried as much yet in my

:01:29. > :01:31.life as I have cried since Brexit. I don't really know what this Brexit

:01:32. > :01:33.thing will mean for us. It's just going to be some stress,

:01:34. > :01:35.and I'm going to lose my friends. I'll speak to people in Boston

:01:36. > :01:38.to find out what they want to see when we leave the EU and how

:01:39. > :01:47.they feel about the change. I hope will not affect anything. So

:01:48. > :01:52.you want less foreign people here? Yes. But you are foreign. I think

:01:53. > :01:53.we're going to be all right. We have survived the first nine months, and

:01:54. > :01:54.will be all right. And the Brexit winners and losers -

:01:55. > :02:04.we find out how businesses are being Exceptionally mild over the next 24

:02:05. > :02:05.hours. Temperatures may reach 18-19 in southern parts of Lincolnshire

:02:06. > :02:16.tomorrow. Join me for the latest. Nine months after the UK

:02:17. > :02:19.voted to leave Europe, Article 50 has been triggered,

:02:20. > :02:27.that means the Prime Minister has formally told the EU

:02:28. > :02:29.that we intend to leave. A period of negotiation expected

:02:30. > :02:41.to take around two years but perhaps Boston is important, because 75% of

:02:42. > :02:46.people here voted to leave the EU last summer, when there was the

:02:47. > :02:48.referendum. That figure is simply the highest in the country.

:02:49. > :02:50.Later in the programme we'll find out how people

:02:51. > :02:53.here now feel but first, our political editor Tim Iredale

:02:54. > :02:56.is in Westminster for us tonight and has been following events there,

:02:57. > :03:06.how significant is today in the Brexit process?

:03:07. > :03:13.Well, many of the people you speak to in Boston tonight and others

:03:14. > :03:16.across Lincolnshire and East Yorkshire who voted in huge numbers

:03:17. > :03:22.to leave the European Union last June may be wondering why it has

:03:23. > :03:29.taken so long to get to where we are today. The simple answer is, up

:03:30. > :03:33.until now, combination of MPs, the House of Lords and judges could in

:03:34. > :03:37.theory have overturned the result of the referendum, but we now know that

:03:38. > :03:42.isn't going to happen. So it has left the way clear for Theresa May

:03:43. > :03:48.today to send that goodbye letter to Brussels, and that means we are

:03:49. > :03:49.heading for the EU accident door. A warning, this report contains some

:03:50. > :03:50.flash photography. After years of discussion,

:03:51. > :03:54.debate and division - Britain IS leaving

:03:55. > :03:56.the European Union - the separation finally

:03:57. > :04:04.confirmed today by the Prime This government has a clear plan for

:04:05. > :04:09.Britain that will change this country, that will see us with a

:04:10. > :04:14.more global outlook, a stronger economy, a fairer society, and the

:04:15. > :04:18.more united nation. What this triggering of article 50

:04:19. > :04:21.means today is, it is the first step on the road of Britain taking back

:04:22. > :04:25.control of its immigration policy, and that is exactly what the people

:04:26. > :04:26.of Boston and Lincolnshire have been saying they have wanted for a long

:04:27. > :04:28.time. Today is the day we do it. The United Kingdom became part

:04:29. > :04:30.of what was then called Is Europe stronger with Britain a

:04:31. > :04:39.member? Yes! But even then, in the days of

:04:40. > :04:42.flares, big collars and sideburns, many politicians started

:04:43. > :04:45.campaigning to get us out. A referendum in 1975 saw British

:04:46. > :04:48.voters choose remain part A referendum in 1975 saw British

:04:49. > :04:50.voters choose to remain part of the European Community,

:04:51. > :04:53.but it would be a different story more than 40 years later

:04:54. > :04:56.when the people were asked We can make tomorrow our

:04:57. > :05:02.Independence Day. It was clear that Lincolnshire

:05:03. > :05:05.and East Yorkshire would be targeted heavily by the Leave campaign,

:05:06. > :05:07.with concerns about the impact of immigration high

:05:08. > :05:19.on political agenda. What would be the impact if we

:05:20. > :05:22.remained in the EU for our NHS and other public services, which are

:05:23. > :05:24.already under huge strain because of the increasing migration?

:05:25. > :05:26.In our part of the world, the verdict was clear.

:05:27. > :05:28.Lincolnshire recorded the country's biggest vote

:05:29. > :05:31.in favour of leaving the EU - but Hull and the East Riding

:05:32. > :05:35.Yet that wasn't the end of the story.

:05:36. > :05:39.A legal challenge led to parliament having a say on the Brexit process,

:05:40. > :05:42.but MPs ultimately decided the result of last summer's

:05:43. > :05:53.Britain's divorce from the EU will be complicated and could be costly.

:05:54. > :05:56.But the historic decision made by voters in East Yorkshire

:05:57. > :05:58.and Lincolnshire last June will become a reality.

:05:59. > :06:11.Tonight, Brexit really does mean Brexit.

:06:12. > :06:17.It certainly does. Thank you very much.

:06:18. > :06:18.Now, Boston is a good example of a town which has been hit by

:06:19. > :06:21.immigration. The 2011 census found that there had

:06:22. > :06:27.been a large increase in population, with 13% of the town

:06:28. > :06:35.being born outside the UK. When you ask people why they voted

:06:36. > :06:40.in those huge numbers to leave the EU, many people say it was because

:06:41. > :06:46.of the strain on services in this area. Places like the doctors and

:06:47. > :06:51.the hospital, and that excuse and that reason came up time and time

:06:52. > :06:53.again. So how do the people of Boston now view the prospect of

:06:54. > :06:57.being outside of the EU? For 12 years Hana has lived

:06:58. > :07:00.and worked in Boston, her son Michael was born

:07:01. > :07:02.here but they are Czech rather than British nationals

:07:03. > :07:04.and since the Brexit vote she says their future

:07:05. > :07:07.feels less secure. I haven't cried as much in my life

:07:08. > :07:15.as I cried since Brexit. It's like a blank, we don't know

:07:16. > :07:18.what's going to happen. We still don't know what this Brexit

:07:19. > :07:22.thing will mean for us. Do you worry about anything

:07:23. > :07:25.to do with Brexit? It's just like that there's

:07:26. > :07:29.going to be some stress and like, I'm just going to lose my friends

:07:30. > :07:32.and stuff like that. But efforts are being made to make

:07:33. > :07:35.Boston's many foreign The town's iconic St Botolph's

:07:36. > :07:41.Church, known as the Boston Stump, now has a multi-lingual chapel

:07:42. > :07:44.to encourage people of all nationalities

:07:45. > :07:49.to worship together. I have seen what has been

:07:50. > :07:51.happening post-Brexit. I've made connections

:07:52. > :07:54.with lots of people from different communities and there is a very

:07:55. > :07:57.positive drive to make this town a community where people

:07:58. > :08:06.celebrate living here. And even some of those who voted

:08:07. > :08:09.to leave the EU want better integration between Boston's

:08:10. > :08:10.different communities. One leave voter has set up

:08:11. > :08:12.a Facebook group called Boston More in Common

:08:13. > :08:16.to encourage that. Boston seemed to me at that point

:08:17. > :08:19.going nowhere and we'd got a lot of people here that

:08:20. > :08:23.were from eastern Europe and I wanted to become friends

:08:24. > :08:27.with those people and try and sort out some of the problems that

:08:28. > :08:30.Boston has with some Here in Boston more than 75%

:08:31. > :08:36.of voters opted to leave the European Union in last June's

:08:37. > :08:40.referendum and today, around nine months on, the process to make that

:08:41. > :08:44.happen has officially begun. What do people here hope

:08:45. > :08:48.that will mean for them? I never wanted to come out from it

:08:49. > :08:52.anyway so I'm hoping that things Has life been different

:08:53. > :08:56.here since the vote? I think it has changed the town, not

:08:57. > :09:01.for the better but for the worse. Since the vote?

:09:02. > :09:02.Yes. Hopefully the people

:09:03. > :09:05.who are here for that many years, I am a bit. Things might change but

:09:06. > :09:13.hopefully for the best. For Hana life has certainly not been

:09:14. > :09:17.better since the EU referendum but she hopes that now the official

:09:18. > :09:20.Brexit process has begun, she will at least get some

:09:21. > :09:29.clarity on the future. I must say I have had a lovely day

:09:30. > :09:35.in Boston so far. I'm joined now by Julian Thompson

:09:36. > :09:47.and Ziedonis Barbaks. Julian has lived in Boston all his

:09:48. > :09:49.life. Ziedonis is chair of the Latvian Council in Great Britain.

:09:50. > :09:54.Good evening to you both. Julian, why did you vote to leave? Two

:09:55. > :09:58.reasons, mainly. I was fed up with the bureaucracy of Brussels, and

:09:59. > :10:03.them forever saying we can do this and that, and the other, being tied

:10:04. > :10:07.to Brussels, laws being made that we were no longer in control of, and

:10:08. > :10:11.then also because of the influx in Boston. We have received no funding.

:10:12. > :10:15.It wouldn't have mattered if it was 10,000 people that came in.

:10:16. > :10:18.So it is what I was saying a few minutes ago, the effect on the

:10:19. > :10:20.services? Definitely, the services have

:10:21. > :10:22.suffered. You were worried about leaving the

:10:23. > :10:27.EU. Why are you worried? I am worried

:10:28. > :10:35.about the people living and working in this area. Those people are very

:10:36. > :10:38.worried about the information on leaving the EU, and there is no

:10:39. > :10:42.information on what will happen afterwards. That is my worry.

:10:43. > :10:46.Are the Eastern Europeans that are here wanting to stay?

:10:47. > :10:51.Yes, they want to stay, but right now, the situation is where they are

:10:52. > :10:56.already thinking to leave the United Kingdom.

:10:57. > :11:02.Because of what has happened? Yes. You say you are worried about the

:11:03. > :11:08.future of Boston. In what way? There are loads of works and loads of

:11:09. > :11:12.shops be opened this area, and on West Street, 12 years ago, that was

:11:13. > :11:15.empty, but now there are loads of businesses around the area, and the

:11:16. > :11:19.people running the businesses are worried about what is happening up

:11:20. > :11:22.to Brexit. Would you go along with that,

:11:23. > :11:24.Julian? You could end up with empty shops?

:11:25. > :11:30.We could end up with a vacuum, yes, not only in the shops, but in the

:11:31. > :11:32.warehouses and the destruction that has been built to make this work for

:11:33. > :11:35.them. What they want to see, then? We have

:11:36. > :11:39.heard these negotiations will start and go on for at least two years.

:11:40. > :11:42.What do you want to see Theresa May get for us?

:11:43. > :11:45.I wanted to make sure that there is a level playing field and that

:11:46. > :11:50.people are going to get the rights that they are rightfully for,

:11:51. > :11:55.because from now on, they are going to be UK citizens. That is the way I

:11:56. > :11:59.would like to see it go. So are you now fully on board with

:12:00. > :12:04.it, would you say? Yes, I voted to leave, but at the

:12:05. > :12:07.end of the day, I want people to feel happy in their own space, and

:12:08. > :12:11.that is what getting Boston together is all about.

:12:12. > :12:13.Some people I spoke to today, Latvians, they were not particularly

:12:14. > :12:22.settled or happy. They were very worried.

:12:23. > :12:24.Well, yes, that is why the factories and gangmasters are using these

:12:25. > :12:27.people. And we were talking about 0-hours

:12:28. > :12:33.contracts, this is the wrong in this country. Because loads of people,

:12:34. > :12:39.there is exploitation going on with the zero contract, and this is why

:12:40. > :12:43.they work even more, and if Brexit happens, there will be more

:12:44. > :12:46.exploitation. That is why people are thinking of leaving the UK.

:12:47. > :12:49.Very interesting indeed. Levy finally ask both of you, Julian,

:12:50. > :12:56.first of all, how optimistic Ayew for Boston Post Brexit?

:12:57. > :12:59.Very optimistic. I want people to come together in the town and become

:13:00. > :13:03.one. It hasn't happened up to now.

:13:04. > :13:06.It hasn't, but this is one thing we're taking steps to answer, to

:13:07. > :13:11.make sure people forward and feel part of a town, rather than being

:13:12. > :13:18.segregated. And ??MACRO1, are you optimistic?

:13:19. > :13:20.I am optimistic, but like I said, the council on the government need

:13:21. > :13:24.to give it more information to the people who are already here, because

:13:25. > :13:28.it will be too late if they are not given any information.

:13:29. > :13:31.Very interesting to chat with you both. Thank you very much for

:13:32. > :13:38.joining us here. Thank you for watching. We are live

:13:39. > :13:45.from Boston on this Wednesday night with a Brexit special. Still ahead

:13:46. > :13:46.on the programme tonight: What people in Boston want to see through

:13:47. > :13:57.a Brexit deal. No show without Punch, and he has

:13:58. > :14:05.been mentioned even in his absence wherever I have been today. "Is Your

:14:06. > :14:09.mate with you? Is going to rain?" No. If I had been on the forecast

:14:10. > :14:12.last night, you would not be wearing a cheap scarf you presumably got

:14:13. > :14:16.from Boston market. Maybe you would like to apologise to

:14:17. > :14:21.the market right now?! Let's have the forecast, then.

:14:22. > :14:22.The headliners very mild one, I think.

:14:23. > :14:30.In Boston tomorrow, every chance we could get 18 or 19 degrees. How

:14:31. > :14:32.about that for the end of March? Cloud at first, it will slowly

:14:33. > :14:38.brighten up up becoming exceptionally mild. April showers

:14:39. > :14:42.for the weekend on Saturday, some sunshine in between, but this ridge

:14:43. > :14:45.of high pressure, a forestay is the same, will ensure Sunday is the best

:14:46. > :14:52.day, dry with some lovely April sunshine to come. All the weather is

:14:53. > :14:54.coming up from the south-west, very mild direction, with these mild

:14:55. > :14:59.temperatures, and you always expect a lot of cloud. That cloud has been

:15:00. > :15:05.producing some outbreaks of rain and drizzle in the last few hours.

:15:06. > :15:09.Basically, it becomes dry overnight, with a few clear intervals. Always a

:15:10. > :15:13.lot of cloud, but night-time temperatures very mild indeed, 11th

:15:14. > :15:19.Celsius. A moderate south-west wind continues. The sun rises at 06 40.

:15:20. > :15:26.Your next high water time in Skegness at 0834 in the morning.

:15:27. > :15:29.Fairly cloudy, bit of dampness, a risk of one or two areas of patchy

:15:30. > :15:34.rain from the south-west, not amounting to very much. The main

:15:35. > :15:37.trend is slow, but it is for brighter skies to Bush over the

:15:38. > :15:41.cell. South Lincolnshire brightening up first, and that brightness should

:15:42. > :15:46.get all way across the Humber by the end of the afternoon. Let's look at

:15:47. > :15:53.the top temperatures. They average around ten for the 2nd of March, so

:15:54. > :15:57.look at that. 17 across East Yorkshire, 18-19 in Boston, Holbeach

:15:58. > :16:00.and King's Lynn. The chance of the odd 20, which is pretty remarkable.

:16:01. > :16:04.Let's look at the further outlook. Patchy rain perhaps for Friday

:16:05. > :16:08.morning, Saturday looks fine with some sunshine and April showers.

:16:09. > :16:15.Fine on Sunday. That is the forecast.

:16:16. > :16:18.And Jeffrey tweeted earlier on to say, I bet you have to wear a tie at

:16:19. > :16:22.the golf club, and several people said the same after your comments

:16:23. > :16:25.last night. Actually, I have an exemption,

:16:26. > :16:29.Peter. I yes, because you are a VIP in your

:16:30. > :16:32.own mind! See you tomorrow. Enjoy it.

:16:33. > :16:34.Yes, I will. Small businesses say they will be

:16:35. > :16:36.hit "disproportionately hard" if tariffs are imposed

:16:37. > :16:39.on European Union imports The man in charge of Britain's

:16:40. > :16:45.departure from the EU and one of our local MPs, David Davis,

:16:46. > :16:49.admitted that leaving the EU without a trade deal could create

:16:50. > :16:58.new tariffs and barriers. In the coming talks,

:16:59. > :17:05.businesses say free and easy trade Our Business Correspondent

:17:06. > :17:09.Leanne Brown is here. Why is trading with

:17:10. > :17:22.Europe so important? Well, with small businesses, 90% of

:17:23. > :17:27.those that export do so with EU countries, so that is why it is so

:17:28. > :17:31.important to them. Having said that, almost as many, 78%, also trade with

:17:32. > :17:35.other countries, places like America, China and New Zealand. So

:17:36. > :17:40.businesses are very much divided on the impact that Brexit might have.

:17:41. > :17:43.What is clear is that there have been winners and losers since the

:17:44. > :17:47.referendum, and I have been speaking to some small businesses about the

:17:48. > :17:50.impact it has had, and their hopes for the future.

:17:51. > :17:52.We have just had Mother's Day, so obviously this is

:17:53. > :17:56.The flowers that we sell here come from numerous countries.

:17:57. > :18:00.I would say predominantly we use Dutch flowers and Colombian

:18:01. > :18:03.and obviously we support all the local English

:18:04. > :18:07.Britain leaving the EU has already affected our business.

:18:08. > :18:10.As soon as we all woke up that morning and found

:18:11. > :18:13.out we were leaving, the pound devalued and immediately

:18:14. > :18:20.My main concern is how we're going to trade directly

:18:21. > :18:24.with European and other countries and also what is going

:18:25. > :18:29.Mark, we need to count the stock now.

:18:30. > :18:37.I think it is an exciting time for the country.

:18:38. > :18:40.We've just got to stay positive whether we are going through a tough

:18:41. > :19:03.We make creams gels and cents, and import essential oils.

:19:04. > :19:06.Straightaway, we have seen orders coming in because of the way the

:19:07. > :19:09.euro and dollar have gone against the pound. The future for us is, we

:19:10. > :19:15.are a bit concerned about tariffs that might come up when we come out

:19:16. > :19:21.of the EU. Also, Commonwealth countries, America, New Zealand,

:19:22. > :19:24.etc, whether we will have tariffs from them or none. We don't know how

:19:25. > :19:26.it will be coming for it is going to go.

:19:27. > :19:31.The busiest time is always Christmas but closely followed by Easter.

:19:32. > :19:34.Like baking, or anything else, the proof of the pudding

:19:35. > :19:37.It's somehow or other making it with your hands

:19:38. > :19:41.It makes it taste better. We are increasing our sales rapidly.

:19:42. > :19:43.My son went with the Department of International Trade

:19:44. > :19:46.on a three-day introduction to exporting over to Holland

:19:47. > :19:54.We are looking into the possibility of that at the minute.

:19:55. > :19:57.We don't see that Brexit will hold us up in any way.

:19:58. > :20:00.It is what it is and so we're just going to head

:20:01. > :20:03.Britain is very renowned for quality of its products.

:20:04. > :20:10.So, different experiences from the businesses

:20:11. > :20:14.What assurances do companies want to see secured by the government

:20:15. > :20:27.In a nutshell, they want the transition to be as easy as

:20:28. > :20:32.possible. One of the biggest advantages they have at the moment

:20:33. > :20:35.is access to the single market, where businesses can import and

:20:36. > :20:40.export without any taxes or tariffs. So many people will want to keep

:20:41. > :20:46.hold of that or keep tariffs to a minimum. But of course, once we are

:20:47. > :20:50.out of the EU, new trade deals can be arranged. Donald Trump, for

:20:51. > :20:55.example, the president of the United States, has said he very much wants

:20:56. > :20:59.a trade deal with the UK, but those deals can take time, so it could be

:21:00. > :21:04.many years before we see any movement there.

:21:05. > :21:08.Another concern for businesses is getting enough people to do the

:21:09. > :21:13.work. Some people say there is too much migration, but others, like

:21:14. > :21:17.farmers, say they need those people to do the work. At the moment, we

:21:18. > :21:21.have the free movement of people, which means that those who live

:21:22. > :21:26.within the EU are free to live and work in other countries in the EU.

:21:27. > :21:32.There is no guarantee that that will stay post Brexit. What is likely to

:21:33. > :21:37.replace it as some sort of Visa or work permit system, but of course,

:21:38. > :21:41.that will also apply to Britons who want to go elsewhere as well. And

:21:42. > :21:47.then finally, there is the issue of the exchange rates. Once Britain

:21:48. > :21:53.voted to leave the EU, the value of the pound plummeted against the

:21:54. > :22:00.dollar, down by 15%, and against the Euro, about 12%. That is good for

:22:01. > :22:03.exporters, but bad for importers. And now article 50 has been

:22:04. > :22:09.triggered, businesses will be keeping a very close eye on that.

:22:10. > :22:12.But Peter, businesses are very resilient, and they tell me they are

:22:13. > :22:17.pretty used to change. Good, good. One business, the lovely

:22:18. > :22:20.flower company, sent me some flowers back from when you went filming.

:22:21. > :22:24.Lucky you! You did not get anything, but I got

:22:25. > :22:25.a boat Quay. Thanks to the ladies for the flowers.

:22:26. > :22:29.I have been speaking to people here to find out

:22:30. > :22:35.what they are hoping for when we leave the European Union.

:22:36. > :22:40.What do you want from Brexit now in Boston?

:22:41. > :22:45.I think the Boston justified its own way. I think we're quite accepting

:22:46. > :22:49.that we're going to leave the EU. -- Boston to find its own way. But the

:22:50. > :22:52.people I hear, we want them to stay here, and just be a community

:22:53. > :22:54.together. Had you think Brexit is going to

:22:55. > :22:58.affect Boston? I am not sure. I hope will not

:22:59. > :23:02.affect anything. That we will stay where we are, in our working places,

:23:03. > :23:06.and our families. It is bad for the people that are

:23:07. > :23:10.scamming the country, yes. They need to be shifted. But the ones that are

:23:11. > :23:17.earning tax for this country should have a right to really have them.

:23:18. > :23:20.What would you do with those who are not earning tax for the country?

:23:21. > :23:24.Kick them out. It may be a good thing, to reduce

:23:25. > :23:27.the amount of foreign people. I know I am foreign.

:23:28. > :23:34.But you want less foreign people here?

:23:35. > :23:41.Yes. But you are foreign. Yes. We have survived the first nine

:23:42. > :23:45.months, so I be all right. When you ask them why they want to

:23:46. > :23:49.leave, they can't tell you. They just say, we want our country back.

:23:50. > :23:52.And when you say when, or from who, they can't and a year.

:23:53. > :23:55.Lovely people I met in Boston market earlier today. That go back to our

:23:56. > :23:57.Let's go back to our political editor, Tim Iredale,

:23:58. > :24:04.Article 50 has been triggered. What can we expect now?

:24:05. > :24:10.we know there will be a lengthy period of negotiation. For more than

:24:11. > :24:16.40 years, many of the laws that govern our daily lives have been set

:24:17. > :24:19.not by Westminster but by Brussels, so the government must now decide

:24:20. > :24:25.which of the thousands of pieces of EU legislation to keep and those it

:24:26. > :24:31.wants to ditch, and we are talking about so a different areas here. EU

:24:32. > :24:35.regulations that go fishing, farming, the environment.

:24:36. > :24:39.Cooperation between police forces, pet passports, and arguably the

:24:40. > :24:41.biggest headache for the government, the law surrounding immigration,

:24:42. > :24:46.which I know you have talked about in Boston tonight. So the man with a

:24:47. > :24:51.great deal on his plate tonight is the halt in price and Howden MP

:24:52. > :24:56.David Davis, who is Theresa May's Brexit Secretary, because he has got

:24:57. > :25:00.to make all this work. The clock is ticking, because we only have two

:25:01. > :25:04.years to come up with a negotiation. In March 2019, we will be out of the

:25:05. > :25:11.EU, whether there is a deal or no deal, Peter.

:25:12. > :25:19.Thank you much indeed. Joining me here just outside the hotel on the

:25:20. > :25:28.side of the river is Paul Kenny, former mayor of Boston. Good evening

:25:29. > :25:32.to you. Good evening. You voted remain. Ayew disappointed? No, I am

:25:33. > :25:37.not disappointed. I have heard what the people of Boston have said. A

:25:38. > :25:40.lot of things the local people were saying, I agree with them. I

:25:41. > :25:44.personally wanted to stay in Europe, but I didn't want to stay in Europe

:25:45. > :25:47.with no change in Boston, and one thing I am pleased about is, we need

:25:48. > :25:51.change, and the quicker we get it, the better.

:25:52. > :25:55.And when you say change, what you want to see? Do you need more money

:25:56. > :26:01.for services? Well, I don't think we need to wait two years to sort out a

:26:02. > :26:04.lot of the problems in Boston. The licensing of HMOs, houses in

:26:05. > :26:10.multiple occupation, having a proper street ban on the town, and also,

:26:11. > :26:15.having a walk-in surgery to take pressures of the local hospital. We

:26:16. > :26:18.can do that tomorrow. What we can do in the meantime is sought out a

:26:19. > :26:21.proper immigration strategy and policy I can work for the long-term.

:26:22. > :26:26.Do you think there will be a decline in the town if the migrants leave?

:26:27. > :26:36.I think that comes from two issues, really. I want to see the end of

:26:37. > :26:39.exploitation. The workers in this town on 0-hours contracts are bad

:26:40. > :26:44.for this town, so in a sense, if people leave because of those

:26:45. > :26:47.contracts and wages, the industry needs to do that. But I'll so

:26:48. > :26:53.recognise that Boston needs an agricultural industry.

:26:54. > :26:57.Mark, you voted to leave. I think it is rude frustrating that

:26:58. > :27:01.today has finally arrived. You could have conceived and given birth in

:27:02. > :27:05.the time it has taken to actually get the vote going ahead today.

:27:06. > :27:11.What do you want to see? Well, I want to see... Obviously,

:27:12. > :27:16.the U did not turn into what our forefathers voted for in the 70s,

:27:17. > :27:20.and we need to see some stronger control of our borders. We need to

:27:21. > :27:26.invest in our own infrastructure. The money we can save that has gone

:27:27. > :27:29.out to Europe could go an awful long way to improving sleepy little

:27:30. > :27:31.market towns like Boston, which have struggled under a massive influx of

:27:32. > :27:35.a burden. And you very much indeed. Paul,

:27:36. > :27:41.thank you very much. Plenty of negotiations to go on over the next

:27:42. > :27:44.two years. Stand-by in a moment when Andrew Neil will sell to the Prime

:27:45. > :27:46.Minister on BBC One. I will see you tomorrow at the same time. Take

:27:47. > :27:56.care, good night. I expect you'll want to become

:27:57. > :27:57.a schoolmaster? That's what most of the gentlemen

:27:58. > :28:00.does that get sent down for indecent behaviour.

:28:01. > :28:02.Evelyn Waugh's classic novel. Have you ever been in love,

:28:03. > :28:05.Mr Pennyfeather? No, not yet. The fire escape is very dangerous

:28:06. > :28:08.and never to be used, MasterChef is back, to find the

:28:09. > :28:20.country's best home chef. The MasterChef kitchen is alive once

:28:21. > :28:25.more. Come on, let's go! That's one of the hardest things

:28:26. > :28:33.I've ever had to do in my life.