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:00:00. > :00:00.Hello and welcome to Thursday's Look serious

:00:00. > :00:07.Hello and welcome to Thursday's Look North.

:00:08. > :00:10.Tonight... Extended jail sentences for the men

:00:11. > :00:19.who sexually abused vulnerable young boys in their care. It's blighted my

:00:20. > :00:23.life. My whole life has been totally surrounded by this abuse case.

:00:24. > :00:31.She was stalked and raped by her former partner. Now she's warning

:00:32. > :00:34.others, to avoid the same fate. There are probably thousands of

:00:35. > :00:39.girls and women going through the same thing. Tell their family and

:00:40. > :00:43.friends, phoned the police, get out. The Shadow Chancellor visits the

:00:44. > :00:46.North, and says the region is still facing "a cost of living crisis" .

:00:47. > :00:49.And they were told it would never last. The couple, renewing their

:00:50. > :00:55.vows, after 60 years of marriage. In sport: three games from Wembley `

:00:56. > :00:58.can Gateshead keep their dreams of a return to the Football League alive?

:00:59. > :01:01.And the Wildcats may be underdogs but can they pull off a shock

:01:02. > :01:02.victory against Champions Newcastle Eagles in this weekend's playoff

:01:03. > :01:20.derby? It's a horrendous tale of systematic

:01:21. > :01:23.sexual abuse ` carried out by a social worker and a care worker at a

:01:24. > :01:26.school for troubled children. John Leslie Duncan, who's now 61, and

:01:27. > :01:31.58`year`old Kevin Brown, preyed on vulnerable boys for years. They'd

:01:32. > :01:37.already been given jail sentences for their crimes. But then more

:01:38. > :01:40.victims started to come forward. So the police began a new investigation

:01:41. > :01:45.` and this evening, a judge extended those sentences. Duncan now gets a

:01:46. > :01:49.total of 24 years behind bars ` Brown gets 14 years. Tonight, we

:01:50. > :01:53.hear from their victims. Our Chief Reporter Chris Stewart has the

:01:54. > :01:58.story. They trusted him, liked him ` some

:01:59. > :02:03.of them loved him like a father. And they were repaid by being sexually

:02:04. > :02:08.abused. Tonight, John Leslie Duncan is starting an extended prison

:02:09. > :02:12.sentence. In court today to see his abuser ` and supported today by his

:02:13. > :02:19.family ` one of Duncan's victims, who has waived his right to

:02:20. > :02:24.anonymity. It feels good. It is a weight off my shoulders. It was my

:02:25. > :02:29.big secret of these years. It blighted my life. My whole life was

:02:30. > :02:35.just totally surrounded by this abuse case. I was ashamed of.

:02:36. > :02:45.Trusting the police was a big issue. Trusting the police was a big issue

:02:46. > :02:48.and it was a great thing to do. And this is Duncan's colleague, care

:02:49. > :02:51.worker Kevin Brown. His string of offences not as serious as Duncan's

:02:52. > :02:55.` but also involving what the judge said was a shocking breach of trust.

:02:56. > :02:59.One of his victims also spoke to us. The first time he told me it was

:03:00. > :03:04.an accident and would not happen again and I believed him because he

:03:05. > :03:09.had always been friendly. Was there ever a point where you thought you

:03:10. > :03:16.needed to tell someone? I was too frightened to. He said if I said

:03:17. > :03:19.anything, he knew where my family was and he would come and see them.

:03:20. > :03:22.The majority of the offences happened at Feversham School at

:03:23. > :03:25.Walbottle on the outskirts of Newcastle. The school's trustees

:03:26. > :03:28.were the mental health charity Mind. The building which housed Feversham

:03:29. > :03:32.still exists ` but there's no other link. Feversham closed in 1996. Only

:03:33. > :03:38.one school brochure produced by the charity still exists ` and this is

:03:39. > :03:42.it. These exclusive pictures show the children, the school's aims...

:03:43. > :03:50.It also shows Duncan with children on his knee and a youthful Kevin

:03:51. > :03:52.Brown. Two carers turned tormentors. The youngsters sent here were often

:03:53. > :04:01.from very troubled family backgrounds. Best illustrated by

:04:02. > :04:05.something which happened during the police interviews. One victim was

:04:06. > :04:11.asked to identify himself in a photograph and said he could not. He

:04:12. > :04:14.said he had never seen a picture of mice `` of himself as a child.

:04:15. > :04:18.One former Feversham workers says when he raised the alarm, his claims

:04:19. > :04:25.were dismissed by the trustees. They interviewed me for two days at the

:04:26. > :04:29.offices in Gateshead, in which I told them everything that I knew. I

:04:30. > :04:37.presented written evidence of things that were going wrong. I mean to

:04:38. > :04:41.people at the school. Then I received a letter three weeks after

:04:42. > :04:46.that telling me that my allegations were without foundations.

:04:47. > :04:52.Tonight, the police had this to say. We would always encourage victims to

:04:53. > :04:58.come forward and report sexual offences regardless when they

:04:59. > :05:01.happens. We will always fully investigate any report of sexual

:05:02. > :05:04.offences and with our partners, make sure the victims get all the support

:05:05. > :05:07.they need. A spokesman for Mind, meanwhile, says the charity wasn't

:05:08. > :05:19.involved in the governance of the school ` and that it applauds those

:05:20. > :05:23.who have spoken out. It's a crime that one in five women,

:05:24. > :05:35.and one in ten men, will experience at some point in their life. Yet

:05:36. > :05:37.stalking continues to be one of the most under`reported offences. Today

:05:38. > :05:41.a South Tyneside woman ` who was stalked and raped by her ex`partner

:05:42. > :05:45.` is sharing HER story, to try to encourage other victims to seek

:05:46. > :05:48.help. Katie Cole has been to meet her. It started with text in and

:05:49. > :05:53.phone calls. He would turn up unexpectedly at my door. He would

:05:54. > :05:55.follow me to work. Anywhere you went with friends and family, he would

:05:56. > :05:58.turn up. Catherine Cunningham has been

:05:59. > :06:02.through more than most in the last two years. She was stalked for

:06:03. > :06:07.months by her ex partner. At the time, if I had realised it would

:06:08. > :06:09.escalate, I should have phoned the police and reported it.

:06:10. > :06:13.Catherine did eventually contact the police ` after her ex broke into her

:06:14. > :06:19.home and raped her. He is now serving an eight year jail sentence.

:06:20. > :06:23.There are probably thousands of girls and women going through the

:06:24. > :06:28.same thing. It is really important for them to tell family and friends,

:06:29. > :06:32.phone the police, get out. If I can help someone avoid going through

:06:33. > :06:35.what I did it is worth it. Today is National Stalking Awareness

:06:36. > :06:39.Day ` a campaign being supported by our regions police forces. The focus

:06:40. > :06:43.in on workplace stalking ` a quarter of victims say they're stalker has

:06:44. > :06:47.turned up at work. One of the things we are pushing us for employers to

:06:48. > :06:55.have policies and practices in place to recognise stalking. It is

:06:56. > :07:00.actually quite important, not only for the welfare of the victim, but

:07:01. > :07:04.also from a productivity point of view, if you have victims on the

:07:05. > :07:09.sick or underperforming, it has a performance issue in the workplace.

:07:10. > :07:13.For Catherine ` she's now trying to put her life back together ` but she

:07:14. > :07:17.says the emotional scars of what happened WILL never go away. It

:07:18. > :07:27.won't go away. Now I know he has been sentenced, I still get that

:07:28. > :07:33.fear. It will not leave. I have to learn to live with it.

:07:34. > :07:37.Katie joins me in the studio. The focus today is on stalking in the

:07:38. > :07:44.workplace ` what's being done to help victims? Employers are going to

:07:45. > :07:50.be given advice on how they can offer support. Handbook has been

:07:51. > :07:55.written. People are going to be trained up in workplaces in the

:07:56. > :08:02.region. As the police Commissioner explained. Our approach is to get

:08:03. > :08:05.champions into workplaces to look after anyone who is suffering from

:08:06. > :08:12.any kind of violence or abuse, including stalking. You should hear

:08:13. > :08:16.in the North East soon get a champion in your workplace. If you

:08:17. > :08:23.need some help and don't have the courage to go to the police, if you

:08:24. > :08:30.are worried about it, speak to that person at work. The message tonight

:08:31. > :08:35.is do not suffer alone. Stalking can ruin lives and it is important that

:08:36. > :08:37.people come forward. Thank you very much for coming in.

:08:38. > :08:41.The Shadow Chancellor, Ed Balls, says the region is still facing "a

:08:42. > :08:44.cost of living crisis" ` despite improving economic figures. Mr Balls

:08:45. > :08:46.was speaking during a visit to Redcar, ahead of next month's

:08:47. > :08:49.European and local elections. Our Political Correspondent, Mark

:08:50. > :09:00.Denten, is live there for us now. Mark. Good evening. We're at the

:09:01. > :09:07.seafront and you can see the new attraction, the Beacon. Well, you

:09:08. > :09:15.cannot see it tonight. You could see the Shadow Chancellor, Ed Balls

:09:16. > :09:22.today. Nigel Farage said last night he was going for Labour votes so Ed

:09:23. > :09:27.Balls appeared today in Redcar. I can bring you the first use of the

:09:28. > :09:34.full ingredients of a very full fruit salad during an election

:09:35. > :09:38.campaign. Taste some fruit cocktail? You know how it is, you're minding

:09:39. > :09:41.your own business in a Redcar supermarket and the Shadow

:09:42. > :09:44.Chancellor comes after you with a fruit stuffed melon. Part of the

:09:45. > :09:47.Labour campaign to highlight a cost`of`living crisis. But could

:09:48. > :09:50.they end up skewered by UKIP at these elections? People will have a

:09:51. > :09:53.choice in 2015. D'you want a Tory Prime Minister, David Cameron, or

:09:54. > :09:58.d'you want a Labour government committed to making the economy

:09:59. > :10:02.work? I do not think Nigel Farage and UKIP will make any difference to

:10:03. > :10:06.that at all. They will not take votes of your party? I think UKIP

:10:07. > :10:09.are a distraction from the main question, do you want a Tory or

:10:10. > :10:13.Labour government? If you want a fairer economy, vote Labour or you

:10:14. > :10:19.will have the Tories. Wouldn't we have more money if we left the EU?

:10:20. > :10:22.The reality here in the North East, Nissan, a big employer, these are

:10:23. > :10:26.big jobs, good jobs in the North East because we are part of the

:10:27. > :10:29.European Union. To walk away from our largest single market when we

:10:30. > :10:37.know these international companies would not be seeing in Britain if we

:10:38. > :10:43.did that would be very dangerous. `` stsaying. What about introducing a

:10:44. > :10:48.living wage? You could commit to that right now. We have a national

:10:49. > :10:55.minimum wage. A living wage. We have a national minimum wage which Labour

:10:56. > :10:58.legislated for. We would like to see that go up. It is about a national

:10:59. > :11:02.minimum wage and protecting the tax credits. Why should voters in the

:11:03. > :11:07.North East and Cumbria trust you to run our economy? There was a global

:11:08. > :11:13.financial crisis all round the world. We have to take our

:11:14. > :11:17.responsibility for that. The question for the future is who will

:11:18. > :11:20.put youth jobs first, who will make the labour market work fairly?

:11:21. > :11:26.Labour are the people with the track record and commitment to make that

:11:27. > :11:30.happen. But his opponents in Redcar are not convinced. Things are

:11:31. > :11:33.getting better, the government is backing the Tees Valley heavily,

:11:34. > :11:36.they are putting five times as much money into the Tees Valley for

:11:37. > :11:43.manufacturing than the previous government. We are getting people

:11:44. > :11:47.back to work successfully. The other thing Labour don't like to mention

:11:48. > :11:50.is the ?700 tax cut which the Lib Dems had on the front of their

:11:51. > :12:03.manifesto last time. This comes into fruition this month. We will of

:12:04. > :12:10.course be bringing you news from the other parties visits to the region

:12:11. > :12:15.ahead of the local and Euro elections on May the 22nd. Whether

:12:16. > :12:20.they are brandishing fruit cocktails or anything else.

:12:21. > :12:23.Thank you for that. In addition to Labour and the

:12:24. > :12:26.Liberal Democrats, six other parties are contesting the European

:12:27. > :12:28.elections in the North East. They are An Independence in Europe, the

:12:29. > :12:33.British National The meat`free food manufacturer,

:12:34. > :12:37.Quorn, has confirmed it's creating new jobs on Teesside and in North

:12:38. > :12:41.Yorkshire. Around 600 people already work at its two sites. 50 jobs are

:12:42. > :12:44.currently being created, with the promise of 100 more over the next

:12:45. > :12:47.five years. About 150 jobs should also be created in Quorn's supply

:12:48. > :12:55.chain. Our Business Correspondent, Ian Reeve, reports.

:12:56. > :13:00.Billingham ` the centre of Quorn production. This vague relative of

:13:01. > :13:08.the mushroom is fermented here on Teesside. And demand for the

:13:09. > :13:13.meat`free products it's turned into ` burgers, mince, chicken drumsticks

:13:14. > :13:19.amongst others ` is soaring. So a ?30m investment here will boost

:13:20. > :13:24.production. We have seen a 15% growth over the last 18 months. We

:13:25. > :13:31.believe that can continue, there is a trend for eating less meat. We eat

:13:32. > :13:36.500 meals a year with meat, it is not what we used to do and it is

:13:37. > :13:39.just too much. Forming and shaping Quorn is done here in North

:13:40. > :13:42.Yorkshire. The horse meat scandal, and the rising cost of meat, have

:13:43. > :13:48.been good for this business. Quorn has over 12m customers. 80% of us

:13:49. > :14:01.have tried Quorn. Even though only 7% of us are vegetarians. If we look

:14:02. > :14:05.at the filling on these eggs here. Quorn is now Britain's 35th biggest

:14:06. > :14:11.brand ` ahead of Heinz tomato ketchup. It's Tim and Carole's job

:14:12. > :14:19.to come up with new products, and make it even bigger. We had great

:14:20. > :14:22.success with the picnic egg. We are developing a pork pie without the

:14:23. > :14:29.port. We are very passionate or we would not be here after 22 years. We

:14:30. > :14:39.love the product. Mo Farrah's doing his bit, too. Quorn is low in

:14:40. > :14:43.saturated fat. Practice, protein. Even without Mo's help, Quorn's

:14:44. > :14:46.selling in 15 countries. More of us are trying it. A company flotation

:14:47. > :14:53.could be on the cards. It looks like a success story that could run and

:14:54. > :14:56.run. Another success story now! They were

:14:57. > :14:59.told it would never last. Margaret Price's parents even refused to

:15:00. > :15:02.attend her wedding, after her boyfriend, Robert, popped the

:15:03. > :15:05.question. That was SIXTY years ago. And today, the couple have been

:15:06. > :15:10.celebrating their diamond wedding anniversary. As they renewed their

:15:11. > :15:18.vows ` even the best man from all those years ago turned up. Julie

:15:19. > :15:22.Smith reports. Robert and Margaret haven't seen best man Kenny since

:15:23. > :15:26.the day they became Mr and Mrs Price. But Kenny and four

:15:27. > :15:33.generations of the family joined together for today's celebrations.

:15:34. > :15:38.My dad would not give his permission. He just thought it

:15:39. > :15:43.wouldn't last so we proved him wrong. Yes. And as the couple

:15:44. > :15:53.renewed their vows there wasn't a dry eye in the church. All this I

:15:54. > :15:58.am, I continue to give to you. Wonderful, absolutely wonderful. We

:15:59. > :16:05.have brought our children into our past, they will all remember, even

:16:06. > :16:10.the little ones. It was wonderful to see them in there again today. I can

:16:11. > :16:18.picture them as they were on the original DE. To see my mum and dad

:16:19. > :16:24.still so happy, I just cried. It was really nice. Margaret and Robert

:16:25. > :16:29.have been retracing their steps, but what everyone wants to know is what

:16:30. > :16:43.is a secret to a long and lasting marriage? We still hold hands. One

:16:44. > :16:48.has only got to say, yes, dear. Very nice.

:16:49. > :16:54.Now, he remains the last Newcastle United manager to lift a major

:16:55. > :16:58.trophy. And today some of the great names from the club's past joined

:16:59. > :17:01.family members to honour Joe Harvey. 45 years on from the Fairs Cup

:17:02. > :17:04.triumph, a plaque was unveiled at the Gallowgate End of St James' Park

:17:05. > :17:07.to commemorate the Yorkshireman's achievements. Peter Harris was

:17:08. > :17:16.there. Here comes Joe Harvey. This is the man they want. They are

:17:17. > :17:19.saying Sir Joe Harvey. A Newcastle manager with the trophy, an

:17:20. > :17:25.achievement worthy of an owner in itself. Family and players

:17:26. > :17:30.remembered Joe Harvey. John was a great man manager. He knew the fans.

:17:31. > :17:36.That's why I said before, he knew what fans wanted. The plaque

:17:37. > :17:39.commemorates the 1969 cup win. His playing career was memorable in

:17:40. > :17:49.itself, not least the 1950s cup wins. Mr Churchill was there to

:17:50. > :18:03.present the cup and he presented it! He still has the original shots.

:18:04. > :18:09.I will wear them on the beach this summer. They wore big shorts in

:18:10. > :18:12.those days. Don't be like that! Given his achievements as player and

:18:13. > :18:16.manager ` some think this is long overdue. Too late, why didn't the

:18:17. > :18:19.club do this? Why do the Supporters Association have to do it? The club

:18:20. > :18:25.should have memorialised Joe Harvey as the last man to win a trophy. The

:18:26. > :18:35.present get embarrassed by the past because the present isn't good

:18:36. > :18:38.enough. As a father, he was more like a brother. He was like a

:18:39. > :18:44.brother because we did everything together. I went to the scouts with,

:18:45. > :18:48.played football with him, played golf with him. He was like a

:18:49. > :18:51.brother. Joe Harvey died in 1989. His achievements as a manager to

:18:52. > :18:58.this day remain unsurpassed by any of his successors. CROWD: Joe

:18:59. > :19:10.Harvey! Joe Harvey! Everybody loving this.

:19:11. > :19:16.I met him a few times. He was a lovely guy. Some more football

:19:17. > :19:19.history? Yes. Relegated from the Football League

:19:20. > :19:22.in 1960, Conference Premier club Gateshead will take a giant step

:19:23. > :19:26.towards promotion back to the big time if they can pick up at least a

:19:27. > :19:30.point at home to second placed Cambridge on Saturday. Even a defeat

:19:31. > :19:33.might not be disastrous if other results go their way. But, as Mark

:19:34. > :19:37.Tulip reports, the Tynesiders are determined not to slip up.

:19:38. > :19:40.If these are the scenes at Gateshead Stadium at around five o clock on

:19:41. > :19:43.Saturday, it will mean that the town's professional football club is

:19:44. > :19:52.still on target to regain its league status 54 years after losing it.

:19:53. > :19:55.Former European Cup winner Gary Mills guided York City to promotion

:19:56. > :19:58.via the Conference play`off final at Wembley and is quietly confident of

:19:59. > :20:03.ending the Heed's half century long exile. From where we were back in

:20:04. > :20:07.September, to end up finishing third, Cambridge Road at one stage

:20:08. > :20:14.20 points ahead of us, it just shows how well we have done. That is our

:20:15. > :20:17.aim. We go into a game to try and win it. Give us the advantage of

:20:18. > :20:20.finishing third and having the second leg back here. Few would

:20:21. > :20:23.deserve to reach a Wembley play`off final more than veteran James

:20:24. > :20:28.Curtis, who recently made his 500th appearance for the club. Not many

:20:29. > :20:36.players play 500 games for the same club over this amount of time in any

:20:37. > :20:40.week really. So I was really proud when I did it against Braintree last

:20:41. > :20:52.week. I hope I get to play a few more yet. `` in any league really.

:20:53. > :20:57.It was a massive opportunity for us to get into that league. We will do

:20:58. > :21:02.everything we can to get the points on Saturday and hopefully from the

:21:03. > :21:09.play`offs to get promotion. Can Gateshead become the history boys,

:21:10. > :21:13.just three games away from Wembley? Let's hope so.

:21:14. > :21:16.Staying with football, and Carlisle United striker Danny Cadamateri has

:21:17. > :21:19.been forced to quit the game, because of a serious knee problem.

:21:20. > :21:23.The 34`year`old made his name at Everton, and joined the Cumbrians in

:21:24. > :21:26.the summer of 2012. He hasn't played at all this season, because of his

:21:27. > :21:29.injury, and has retired on the advice of his surgeon.

:21:30. > :21:35.Now if you're a basketball fan I bet you can't wait for this weekend! For

:21:36. > :21:39.the first time two teams from the north east have made it through to

:21:40. > :21:42.the BBL playoffs. Not only that but Championship winners Newcastle

:21:43. > :21:45.Eagles take on Durham Wildcats for a place in the semi `finals. For the

:21:46. > :21:48.Wildcats who're in just their third season in the top flight making the

:21:49. > :21:54.playoffs is an achievement in itself. The Wildcats back on court

:21:55. > :22:00.after a dramatic weekend which saw them beat Birmingham and cherish our

:22:01. > :22:04.to secure the final play`off place in their first involvement in the

:22:05. > :22:10.end of season finale. Now they want to go a step further. The cherry on

:22:11. > :22:14.top of the cake would be our first play`off wins and our first wins

:22:15. > :22:21.against the Newcastle league. It could be fantastic for us. Their

:22:22. > :22:27.weekend is in contrast to the Newcastle league who had the chance

:22:28. > :22:33.to enjoy a week off. Durham go into this weekend full of energy. We have

:22:34. > :22:40.confidence going into the next round against the Newcastle Eagles. It is

:22:41. > :22:46.amazing for the club. We could not hope for a bigger play`off challenge

:22:47. > :22:49.than against the league winners and their Newcastle Eagles and that this

:22:50. > :22:57.is the North East backyard is adding extra space and I am sure the Eagles

:22:58. > :23:01.are the same. The Eagles may have won all three meetings between the

:23:02. > :23:07.two sides but we have all been tight and at play`off time anything can

:23:08. > :23:11.happen. We played them close but we have not had a big city yet. It has

:23:12. > :23:16.been a battle so I expect another battle. We just have to keep trying

:23:17. > :23:22.to get better and one of these times we will overturn them. The one of

:23:23. > :23:28.those teams we just did not want face. If we can fit play at the pace

:23:29. > :23:33.we want to play at, it will put them in a difficult position. The

:23:34. > :23:37.Wildcats will have the home crowd behind them on the second leg. North

:23:38. > :23:55.East basketball is definitely the winner in this contest.

:23:56. > :24:02.`` may the best team win. Now for `` may the best team win. Now for

:24:03. > :24:05.the weather. Tomorrow there will be some

:24:06. > :24:10.brightness. It will be restricted to western regions because we have

:24:11. > :24:17.clouded and missed in the east. This will spread west, bringing rain with

:24:18. > :24:23.it. Some rain around today, a couple of showers heavy over the hills.

:24:24. > :24:28.They are dying away as we head through this evening. Most places

:24:29. > :24:33.will be dry through the night. Increasing cloud and low mist, some

:24:34. > :24:38.coastal and help for. Western regions keep clear spells.

:24:39. > :24:46.Temperatures around seven Celsius in the breeze. Some brightness early on

:24:47. > :24:50.tomorrow in the West of Cumbria. This cloudy, misty weather from the

:24:51. > :24:56.east will spread westwards. The rain will become more widespread. Most

:24:57. > :25:00.places will see rain with some heavy bursts in the second half of the

:25:01. > :25:07.day. A range of temperatures in the cool easterly breeze. After the

:25:08. > :25:15.brighter start in the West, we could see 15 Celsius, getting shelter from

:25:16. > :25:19.the easterly winds. That is the picture for tomorrow and towards the

:25:20. > :25:24.weekend, low pressure from the South will start to dominate. That will

:25:25. > :25:29.produce clouds and rain and will head our way through the weekend.

:25:30. > :25:34.And improving picture for the second part of the weekend. If you're out

:25:35. > :25:38.and about in the next few days, it will cloud over from the East and

:25:39. > :25:44.eventually there will be rain in several places. More rain to come on

:25:45. > :25:53.Saturday at drier and brighter on Sunday. The North East hangs onto

:25:54. > :25:58.more clouds and rain through tomorrow and Saturday. Temperatures

:25:59. > :26:04.will climb slightly towards the mid`teens. Drier and brighter

:26:05. > :26:11.weather for the weekend will be on Sunday. We would love to see your

:26:12. > :26:17.April weather pictures. Check out our website to see what we're after.

:26:18. > :26:51.Some are not quite on yet. Thanks for that. Join us tomorrow. Goodbye.

:26:52. > :26:55.All across the country, millions of families are waking up

:26:56. > :26:58.to a Britain in which they find it harder to get on.

:26:59. > :27:02.Whilst the Government keeps telling people everything is fixed,