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:00:03. > :00:07.Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with Roger Johnson. And

:00:07. > :00:10.Annabel Tiffin. Our top story. After the report, the fallout.

:00:10. > :00:15.Resignation calls for the senior police officer who denies being

:00:15. > :00:17.involved in the Hillsborough cover- Remaining defiant - Norman Bettison

:00:17. > :00:27.repeats his claim that fans' behaviour made the police's job

:00:27. > :00:29.

:00:29. > :00:33.harder. Utter rubbish. The police didn't do

:00:33. > :00:37.their job, they bail that, the fans could crushed to death. We'll talk

:00:37. > :00:40.to the senior MP who set up the Independent Review.

:00:40. > :00:47.Also tonight: They're the golden couple of Paralympics GB, but why

:00:47. > :00:51.is red the colour that makes the Storeys tick?

:00:51. > :00:54.Meet the new sniffer dog who is always on her mettle in the fight

:00:54. > :01:04.against crime. Left in a bag for the charity shop

:01:04. > :01:13.

:01:13. > :01:15.- the story book with a fairytale Sir Norman Bettison has angered

:01:15. > :01:20.Hillsborough campaigners with remarks about supporters' behaviour

:01:20. > :01:24.on the day of the disaster. He says they made the job of police

:01:24. > :01:32.officers hard. He was an officer in South Yorkshire at the time, and

:01:32. > :01:35.this against -- again denied being part of a cover-up.

:01:35. > :01:37.The Hillsborough campaigners have never liked Sir Norman Bettison.

:01:37. > :01:47.When he was appointed chief constable of Merseyside in 1989,

:01:47. > :01:49.they made their feelings known. Disgrace. Absolute disgrace. As an

:01:49. > :01:52.officer in the South Yorkshire force before joining Merseyside,

:01:52. > :01:55.he'd been part of a unit investigating - he says - the

:01:55. > :02:00.police response to the disaster. The campaigners believed the unit's

:02:00. > :02:02.job was simply to deflect criticism of the police. Here he is at

:02:02. > :02:05.Hillsborough two years after the disaster, briefing officers before

:02:05. > :02:08.another match and defending the South Yorkshire force against the

:02:08. > :02:17.allegation that it had put crowd control before crowd safety on the

:02:17. > :02:21.day of the disaster. We are now aware of the danger signs in the

:02:21. > :02:24.crowd, and we are more safety conscious than we ever were, but

:02:24. > :02:28.don't run away but the idea that safety was on the back-burner at

:02:28. > :02:30.the time at the Hillsborough disaster. Now chief constable of

:02:30. > :02:40.West Yorkshire, Sir Norman has angered Hillsborough campaigners

:02:40. > :02:45.

:02:45. > :02:55.with his latest remarks on what His comments haven't gone down well

:02:55. > :02:55.

:02:55. > :03:01.in Liverpool. After rubbish. -- utter rubbish. The police didn't do

:03:01. > :03:04.their job. They baled out, innocent young lives were lost. It shouldn't

:03:04. > :03:10.be up to him to resign, the government should just sack him,

:03:11. > :03:14.simple as that. It is sad, because you saw yesterday that people felt

:03:14. > :03:20.vindicated, it was there for everybody to see what had caused

:03:20. > :03:24.the disaster, and yet now he has to come out and say that. It is the

:03:24. > :03:27.mark of the man, the mark of South Yorkshire police as it was. When he

:03:27. > :03:35.arrived in Liverpool in 1998, Sir Norman denied involvement in a

:03:35. > :03:41.cover up. And today he reiterated Trevor Hicks, who lost two

:03:41. > :03:46.daughters at Hillsborough, challenges that. He has been named

:03:46. > :03:49.in the report, he has been singled out as one of the many people

:03:49. > :03:56.involved in the smear campaign, and at the very least he should cease

:03:56. > :04:00.to be Sir Norman, and if he has any sensitivity at all, I don't think

:04:00. > :04:04.he has got very much, but if he has you will consider his position and

:04:04. > :04:06.he will resign. The union, UNISON, has called for Sir Norman to be

:04:06. > :04:11.stripped of his honorary fellowship at Liverpool's John Moores

:04:11. > :04:13.University. The South Yorkshire force is considering reporting some

:04:13. > :04:16.of its own officers to the Independent Police Complaints

:04:17. > :04:21.Commission. 24 hours ago in Liverpool, a time to reflect and

:04:21. > :04:31.take stock of the revelations in the new report. Today, the clamour

:04:31. > :04:32.

:04:32. > :04:36.for action. Earlier I spoke to give a bat and

:04:37. > :04:39.Pete Andy Vernon. Labour's Andy Burnham, who set up

:04:39. > :04:42.the Hillsborough Independent Panel when he was in government, says

:04:42. > :04:50.attitudes towards football fans did contribute to the way the tragedy

:04:50. > :04:55.was handled. As the truth sinks in, I find it harder and harder to

:04:56. > :05:02.accept, and I asked a question, how on earth did this place behind be

:05:02. > :05:06.let this injustice stand for so long? All political parties need to

:05:06. > :05:11.ask why they didn't do more to hold the Hillsborough families, and my

:05:11. > :05:16.own political party included. It is a very worrying thing that we have

:05:16. > :05:21.a report that shakes how faith in the institutions that are there to

:05:21. > :05:25.serve this country, and people will look to to protect us, turning on

:05:25. > :05:28.of the victims of a tragedy to protect themselves. Serious

:05:28. > :05:34.questions have to be answered Cepeda can learn from this and have

:05:34. > :05:41.that confidence. Your party has called for a criminal investigation,

:05:41. > :05:46.do you feel now that criminal prosecutions must take place?

:05:46. > :05:49.think there now needs to be justice and accountability within the South

:05:49. > :05:53.Yorkshire police and the West Midlands police. The thing that

:05:53. > :05:59.leapt out from the report for me was the taking of blood alcohol

:05:59. > :06:01.levels for more of those bodies, including children. Running police

:06:01. > :06:05.national computer criminal checks on the dead so that information

:06:06. > :06:11.might be used to impugn their reputations, these things are

:06:11. > :06:14.despicable. They back up what we have said all along, that an

:06:14. > :06:18.orchestrated campaign was mounted almost immediately to shift blame

:06:18. > :06:22.after police and on to the supporters. The effect of that has

:06:22. > :06:28.been that Liverpool supporters who were there at Liverpool have been

:06:28. > :06:31.walking around somehow hearing people say that they were to blame.

:06:31. > :06:37.Finally, the supporters were emphatically clear, and that is

:06:37. > :06:42.what was so important yesterday. Should Sir Norman Bettison resign?

:06:42. > :06:49.I think he has serious questions to answer, as has other senior figures

:06:49. > :06:53.in the police. It is not for me to sit in judgment on Sir Norman

:06:53. > :06:56.Bettison, but it is for others to put in train there is necessary

:06:56. > :07:05.investigations so the family can have the accountability they have

:07:05. > :07:10.called for all these years. Thank you are joining us now. Today has

:07:10. > :07:15.been a date of more recriminations and further apologies. Those who

:07:15. > :07:21.were blamed in yesterday's report have in the last few hours faced

:07:21. > :07:24.calls for further investigations. A number of public figures have

:07:24. > :07:31.joined the Corus of saying sorry for the disaster and for the last

:07:31. > :07:40.23 years, but has -- how has all this gone down with the family's?

:07:40. > :07:44.Andy Gill is at Anfield now. South Yorkshire Police is considering

:07:44. > :07:47.referring itself to the independent Police Complaints Commission, West

:07:47. > :07:52.Yorkshire Police is getting a special committee to look at a role

:07:52. > :07:58.of Sir Norman Bettison, we have had apologies from Boris Johnson in his

:07:58. > :08:02.role as editor of the Spectator for an article he wrote, and we have

:08:02. > :08:06.had apologies from other Conservative MPs. But one of the

:08:07. > :08:09.issues the panel raised yesterday which is still resonating today is

:08:09. > :08:14.the one where the panel said 41 people who died could potentially

:08:14. > :08:17.have been saved if things had been done differently.

:08:17. > :08:22.Fans were adding new tributes at the Hillsborough memorial today.

:08:22. > :08:25.The original inquest assumed all named here had suffocated by 3.15pm.

:08:25. > :08:30.But the independent panel said many victims had asphyxia which could

:08:30. > :08:40.have been reversed. Rose Robinson's son Stephen was 17 when he died at

:08:40. > :08:40.

:08:40. > :08:46.Hillsborough. It is distressing, but I am not going down that route,

:08:46. > :08:51.because as far as I'm concerned, they told me he died of traumatic

:08:51. > :08:54.asphyxiation and I don't know what happened after that. To go down

:08:54. > :09:03.that road would be far too painful. Anne Williams has known for years

:09:03. > :09:07.that her son Kevin was still alive at 4pm. I have always said, what

:09:07. > :09:15.was done to Cabinet they have done to all of us. They were not all

:09:15. > :09:25.dead by 3:15pm. 41, it is nothing but scandalous. That is nearly half

:09:25. > :09:30.

:09:30. > :09:39.A Liverpool doctor who was at Hillsborough says it's a startling

:09:39. > :09:44.figure. I haven't thought about it numerically in that way before, but

:09:44. > :09:53.it does make sense. We know that the emergency response was totally

:09:53. > :09:56.inadequate. 41 souls on the conscience of senior public figures.

:09:56. > :10:01.The panel chose their words carefully, saying it was impossible

:10:01. > :10:07.to say whether a more effective emergency response would have saved

:10:07. > :10:12.the life of any one individual. But the possibility that there might be

:10:12. > :10:17.41 fewer names here is one that has caused real shock. After all those

:10:17. > :10:22.years, it would be heartbreaking to find out that lives could have been

:10:22. > :10:27.saved, it is disgraceful to stop there have been robbed of their

:10:27. > :10:31.little ones, haven't they? It could take weeks before a decision on new

:10:32. > :10:41.inquests. But the revelation about the 41 has added to calls for that

:10:42. > :10:42.

:10:42. > :10:46.to be speeded up. We are joined by Parry, whose son died at

:10:46. > :10:50.Hillsborough when he was 18. When you heard that 41 people might have

:10:50. > :10:58.been saved, what did you think? think the vast majority of people

:10:58. > :11:05.were shocked and saddened that a lot of a loved ones could be at

:11:05. > :11:09.home now I'm not part of this scenario. It was very upsetting,

:11:09. > :11:13.three people collapsed in the room and one person collapsed -- fainted

:11:14. > :11:18.from shock. This is the evidence that has been produced by the

:11:18. > :11:24.independent panel, we have to accept that evidence as a damning

:11:24. > :11:33.indictment of the South Yorkshire police force and their failure to

:11:33. > :11:39.act early, quickly, and implement the emergency plan. Do you think

:11:39. > :11:43.that it means that the inquest, the new inquest, should be speeded up?

:11:43. > :11:46.I am not too sure about that. The papers have got to be sent away to

:11:47. > :11:51.the Attorney General, he has got to examine them and make the

:11:51. > :11:55.recommendation. This could be many months away. It is going to be

:11:55. > :12:01.dependent on the weight of evidence, and if it is very good, I'm

:12:01. > :12:07.confident that the Attorney-General will pass it on to the High Court

:12:07. > :12:16.and hopefully they will inturned say -- over to the accidental death

:12:16. > :12:18.verdict. Thank you for your time. Back to you. Liverpool scriptwriter

:12:18. > :12:22.Jimmy McGovern wrote the drama- documentary "Hillsborough" in 1996,

:12:22. > :12:25.interviewing many of the families of the victims for his research.

:12:25. > :12:29.The BBC's Judith Moritz spoke to him for a special documentary being

:12:29. > :12:33.shown this weekend. She started by asking him about the impact

:12:33. > :12:41.Hillsborough had had on Merseyside. An impact that people elsewhere

:12:42. > :12:48.sometimes struggled to understand. You're not going to move on until

:12:48. > :12:54.everybody has been held to account. You're not going to move on until

:12:54. > :12:58.you have had a full explanation as to how your child died. And the

:12:58. > :13:03.procedures that are supposed to help you, when the procedures that

:13:03. > :13:06.are supposed to help you, particularly an inquest, actually

:13:07. > :13:15.stops at a point immediately before he or she died, then you are going

:13:15. > :13:20.to be annoyed. The Hillsborough families have had a bellyful of law.

:13:20. > :13:24.But they have never had to justice. Can you explain to a wider audience

:13:24. > :13:28.why this is an issue which has really got under the skin of

:13:28. > :13:33.Liverpudlians, not just those who were there or personally bereaved,

:13:33. > :13:38.but members of this community who feel it has a collective feeling?

:13:38. > :13:45.Things like the boycott of the Sun macro, the crowds turning out for

:13:45. > :13:50.the memorial services, it goes be on the families of the 96. It does,

:13:50. > :13:54.remember that when these people died, when 96 people died, the

:13:54. > :13:58.South Yorkshire police said to themselves, they are football

:13:58. > :14:03.supporters, they are just scum. And the families will be the family's

:14:03. > :14:08.other scum, they might kick up a fuss for a while but they will go

:14:08. > :14:13.away. 23 years later, they have not gone away, they are still battling.

:14:13. > :14:20.Every minute that passes is a demonstration of love. These were

:14:20. > :14:25.wonderful people, and they were loved. So this ongoing campaign, I

:14:25. > :14:28.think, has been a massive demonstration of enduring Love.

:14:28. > :14:32.Truth and justice, yes, but loved above all.

:14:32. > :14:42.And you can see more of what Jimmy McGovern had to say in that

:14:42. > :14:45.

:14:45. > :14:48.documentary on the BBC News Channel The third victim in the Surrey

:14:48. > :14:54.coach crash has been named locally as 23-year-old Kerry Ogden from

:14:54. > :14:59.Maghull. The bus left the carriageway on the A3 and hit a

:14:59. > :15:01.tree on its way back to Merseyside on Monday night. Driver Colin

:15:01. > :15:07.Daulby from Warrington and 18-year- old Michael Molloy from Woolton

:15:07. > :15:12.were also killed in the incident. Surrey Police have confirmed 10

:15:12. > :15:14.other passengers are still in hospital.

:15:14. > :15:19.Professor Sid Watkins from Liverpool, who was at the forefront

:15:19. > :15:21.of Formula 1 safety for more than 30 years, has died aged 84. The

:15:21. > :15:27.neurosurgeon was the trackside doctor, and is credited with saving

:15:27. > :15:30.the lives of several grand prix drivers after heavy crashes.

:15:30. > :15:34.A Manchester MP says an enquiry into airports in the UK should

:15:34. > :15:37.consider the possibility of expanding up North. A wide-ranging

:15:37. > :15:41.review into aviation has been launched by the Commons Transport

:15:41. > :15:44.Committee. Lib Dem MP for Withington, John Leech, says the

:15:44. > :15:49.enquiry should seriously consider alternatives to yet another hub in

:15:49. > :15:51.London. The Isle of Man's mobile library

:15:51. > :15:55.service has restarted, after government cuts threatened it with

:15:55. > :15:59.closure. It's been described as a lifeline for the island's elderly

:15:59. > :16:05.and more remote communities. The Manx Education Foundation is

:16:05. > :16:08.funding it for the next three years. Workers at the defence company BAE

:16:08. > :16:13.Systems in Lancashire have been told their company might merge with

:16:13. > :16:19.another massive defence company EADS, based in France. It's not yet

:16:19. > :16:21.clear what the job implications are. But one MP says it's crucial the

:16:21. > :16:28.military aircraft division remains based in Lancashire. Our political

:16:28. > :16:33.editor Arif Ansari reports. The Eurofighter Typhoon - a

:16:33. > :16:36.powerful symbol of co-operation between BAE Systems and EADS. But

:16:36. > :16:46.this is an anxious time for the 11,000 workers in Lancashire as

:16:46. > :16:49.they work out the implications of a merger. -- 10,000. If the

:16:49. > :16:53.headquarters it remains a Lancashire, then I will be broadly

:16:53. > :16:57.supportive of this, and I have made it clear to the company. But my

:16:57. > :17:00.support is conditional on seeing the head quotas and intellectual

:17:00. > :17:03.property and the jobs that go with it remain here. BAE Systems is

:17:03. > :17:13.worth about 15 billion euros. EADS is a Franco German company worth

:17:13. > :17:22.Boeing at 41 billion. But if the two European companies merge,

:17:22. > :17:28.Not only that, but EADS builds the hugely successful airbus. Experts

:17:28. > :17:34.say that could be good for workers at BAE Systems. Bringing them

:17:34. > :17:38.together will mean that the company can not be too worried if he

:17:38. > :17:42.doesn't get a particular order, it can be able to keep other factory

:17:42. > :17:45.going by servicing part of this much larger company, so it might

:17:45. > :17:55.safeguard jobs. But this deal has major security implications. It

:17:55. > :17:57.

:17:57. > :18:00.needs clearance from various governments before take off.

:18:00. > :18:03.They were the golden couple of the Paralympics, and today Sarah and

:18:03. > :18:05.Barney Storey said they're still taking in what they've achieved.

:18:05. > :18:14.Sarah came away with four cycling gold medals. Husband Barney, one

:18:14. > :18:19.gold and one silver. And today they were back at their training base at

:18:19. > :18:26.the Manchester Velodrome, proudly wearing their medals. Our sports

:18:26. > :18:34.reporter Richard Askam caught up with them.

:18:34. > :18:40.Over the line! A brilliant time! A new world record! Is it enough? Yes

:18:40. > :18:45.it is a! So many great numbers, it is about putting the ball into

:18:45. > :18:50.context now, it is about enjoying them, we have been so busy, we

:18:50. > :18:55.haven't had a chance to have a drink. The response can yesterday,

:18:55. > :19:00.on the ride week deed, we were in a village and there were it to lucky

:19:00. > :19:07.ladies who came running across, I was hiding around a corner try to

:19:07. > :19:11.shelter from the rain, and they were so excited to see me, covered

:19:11. > :19:19.in mud, when to have recognised myself, to be honest! They wanted

:19:19. > :19:25.to have a photograph. It was so brilliant. You can't be covered in

:19:25. > :19:29.mud, you worry star now! I was bullied by the end of it! You are

:19:29. > :19:34.both competing at the top level, which a view is more likely to be

:19:34. > :19:44.talking about cycling at the breakfast table? We do talk about

:19:44. > :19:44.

:19:44. > :19:50.other things, but cycling is a passion. I do talk about football.

:19:50. > :19:58.You might be on the pitch at some point! I hope so! We are going on

:19:58. > :20:05.Saturday! I was a Manchester United season ticket holder one by met

:20:05. > :20:10.Barney, so he more or less proposed on the spot. I was always going

:20:10. > :20:14.with one of my best mate, when she moved to Devon I was like, I can

:20:14. > :20:22.find a different person, then I met him and he couldn't believe his

:20:22. > :20:32.luck! Where would you keep all those medals? They fancy a holiday

:20:32. > :20:36.

:20:36. > :20:42.and a drink, I can't blame them. A retired police dog handler from

:20:42. > :20:47.Lancashire has trained his black labrador to be able to sniff out

:20:47. > :20:53.stolen items which have been kept in scrapyard. She is a very clever

:20:53. > :20:58.dog. She is thought to be the first sniffer dog to be able to do this.

:20:58. > :21:03.Her owner, Mike, claims it is a major breakthrough in tackling a

:21:03. > :21:06.client -- crime that costs the country millions every year.

:21:06. > :21:12.This nose could help save millions of Pounds and put metal thieves

:21:12. > :21:22.behind bars. It belongs to the first detection dog in the world to

:21:22. > :21:23.

:21:23. > :21:30.be trained to sniff out stolen a call. -- stone and metal. She is --

:21:30. > :21:35.she has a unique DNA code. This has been placed on a piece of copper

:21:35. > :21:41.piping, it has been on the piping for about two months, this is a

:21:41. > :21:48.basic set up training exercise, we will put this in the board at there.

:21:48. > :21:55.Then it is up to the doctor do her stuff of. In tests, she has an

:21:55. > :22:01.impressive success rate. Good girl! At the moment the police use UV

:22:01. > :22:05.lamps, but she makes the job easy. Now researchers don't need to have

:22:05. > :22:09.the line of sight with the marker, she can detected whether it is

:22:09. > :22:13.upside down, inside out, at the bottom of the skip. Therefore it

:22:13. > :22:16.makes the search a lot more effective, a lot quicker, a lot

:22:16. > :22:21.more cost-effective, and hopefully be will be able to recover more

:22:21. > :22:27.metal. Several police forces and private companies are said to be

:22:27. > :22:35.watching her efforts for the growing interest.

:22:35. > :22:39.She is going to be in demand! There we love a good dog story.

:22:39. > :22:43.As fairy tales go, this is a good one. A rare first edition of a

:22:43. > :22:46.Peter Pan novel has been found amongst a bag full of old books at

:22:46. > :22:49.a charity shop in Cheshire. It dates from the early days of last

:22:49. > :22:51.century and includes some beautiful illustrations from one of the

:22:51. > :22:54.Edwardian era's most proclaimed artists. The book's up for auction

:22:54. > :22:57.this weekend and experts think it might fetch hundreds of pounds.

:22:57. > :23:01.This from our Cheshire reporter, Mark Edwardson.

:23:01. > :23:07.A magical find. JM Barrie's classic "Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens",

:23:07. > :23:15.printed in 1906. But mystery surrounds the identity of the donor

:23:15. > :23:19.who left it at Oxfam in Alderley Edge. It was just in a bin bag, he

:23:19. > :23:24.didn't look auspicious, the first thing I took out of it was this

:23:24. > :23:29.lovely book. Have you any idea who this man was? No idea, just a

:23:29. > :23:32.generous customer! It's the tale of Peter Pan as a baby. Here Peter Pan

:23:32. > :23:38.is a special boy confused by his talent for flight and friendships

:23:38. > :23:42.with fairies. It is an exquisite book. It is bound, beautifully

:23:42. > :23:48.illustrated. Clearly bought for somebody very special, but who was

:23:48. > :23:54.that? My imagine it was bought as a gift, probably for a child. I

:23:54. > :23:57.wonder if they appreciated what they had! The book's very much of

:23:57. > :24:03.its time - the then-King, Edward VII makes an appearance - and

:24:03. > :24:09.there's a possible a reference to Edwardian international relations.

:24:09. > :24:14.The volume is being auctioned this Sunday. It is a first edition, it

:24:14. > :24:18.is signed by the illustrator, a very famous illustrator. So it has

:24:18. > :24:21.everything going for it from a collector's point of view. I don't

:24:22. > :24:26.think we will want to be selling it for less than �500. 100 years ago,

:24:26. > :24:28.a child would have used it to learn to read. Oxfam says the auction

:24:28. > :24:36.proceeds will help children with the same aspiration, in the

:24:36. > :24:44.developing world. What an amazing find. I love a good

:24:44. > :24:53.rummage in a charity shop. I do! You can find some good things in

:24:53. > :25:03.charity shops! Not what a man wearing today!

:25:03. > :25:03.

:25:03. > :25:10.I am stunned that he would even point in her direction!

:25:10. > :25:20.I was going to say... I have never found anything quite that good,

:25:20. > :25:21.

:25:21. > :25:25.As we move into September, we have already had a bit of everything,

:25:25. > :25:31.record-breaking temperatures, it was very warm last weekend, last

:25:31. > :25:35.night, it was really quite chilly, tonight an entirely different

:25:35. > :25:40.picture. You will be up in double figures. If you're looking ahead to

:25:40. > :25:48.the weekend, most of us are, Saturday looks like being the good

:25:48. > :25:53.one. Sunday will see a band of rain gradually creeping towards us.

:25:53. > :25:58.Today has been all about the cloud cover, but it is only half the

:25:58. > :26:03.story. Rain will be in the forecast as we go through the night to night.

:26:03. > :26:07.You have these huge amount of cloud cover over the next couple of hours,

:26:07. > :26:13.then align of rain will work its way in, and the wind will be the

:26:13. > :26:20.real teacher. It will be picking up through the night, it could be

:26:20. > :26:28.gusting up to 50 mph. So tonight, drizzly rain, and strong winds, all

:26:28. > :26:32.these things conspired to keep the temperatures up to stop --. When

:26:32. > :26:37.you get up tomorrow morning, that wind will continue to be quite

:26:37. > :26:42.ghastly, but it changes direction back to being a north-westerly. The

:26:42. > :26:47.cloud cover is with you, there might be a break in the cloud cover,

:26:47. > :26:51.but then this showery rain worked its way through. It will be all

:26:51. > :26:58.over the place, but as you progress through the day, the showers

:26:58. > :27:07.gradually die away. There to be a glimpse of sunshine as you head

:27:08. > :27:17.towards teatime. -- there could be. Saturday, nothing happening, looks

:27:17. > :27:24.like being the best day of the What do they say, people in glass