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:00:12. > :00:14.Good evening. Welcome to North West Tonight with

:00:15. > :00:18.Annabel Tiffin and Roger Johnson. Our top story: A deaf and mute

:00:19. > :00:22.orphan girl kept in this cellar and treated as a servant ` a pensioner

:00:23. > :00:24.is found guilty of rape and trafficking. She has been exploited

:00:25. > :00:31.systematically over a long period of time in the worst possible way.

:00:32. > :00:37.Jurors wept as the Gaultier verdict was delivered. `` the guilty verdict

:00:38. > :00:40.was delivered. The 10`year`old was travelling on the passport of a

:00:41. > :00:43.20`year`old when she was trafficked into the country, and Border Agency

:00:44. > :00:55.officials failed to spot it. And nobody is found in the search

:00:56. > :00:58.for Helen McCourt. The dozens of NHS whistle`blowers

:00:59. > :01:00.coming forward every week ` we have a special report.

:01:01. > :01:02.How the orient could save Stockport County's fortunes. And it's not just

:01:03. > :01:19.Kylie. The research looking at the catchy

:01:20. > :01:24.tunes we can't get out of OUR heads. She was trafficked into the

:01:25. > :01:30.country, repeatedly raped, used as a slave and sexually exploited.

:01:31. > :01:33.Tonight, Ilyas Ashar, the man responsible for this catalogue of

:01:34. > :01:40.appalling crimes against the deaf mute orphan is facing spending the

:01:41. > :01:44.rest of his life in prison. Juror wept as the verdict was

:01:45. > :01:55.delivered. A legal order has now been lifted and we can tell. Rory ``

:01:56. > :02:04.we can tell that. Ray of the abuse. For our most decade this `` for

:02:05. > :02:09.almost a decade the seller was the home of a poor girl who was

:02:10. > :02:14.trafficked into this country. It is absolutely devastating. She has been

:02:15. > :02:19.exploited systematically over a long period of time in the worst possible

:02:20. > :02:24.way. She had been brought into Britain from Pakistan in 2000. Her

:02:25. > :02:29.passport said she was 20, in fact she was closer to ten, yet amazingly

:02:30. > :02:36.no one in a forest he noticed. So she lived in the seller, forced into

:02:37. > :02:42.domestic servitude and repeatedly raped. This afternoon, Ilyas Ashar

:02:43. > :02:47.was convicted on 13 counts of rape against the girl. But they were then

:02:48. > :02:51.told information which was present `` previously kept from them. The

:02:52. > :02:53.fact that he and his wife had already been convicted of

:02:54. > :02:59.trafficking the girl into Britain to put her into forced labour. And of

:03:00. > :03:06.benefit fraud. They had used her name to make fraudulent claims. Two

:03:07. > :03:09.members of the jury wept when he heard that. The judge said it had

:03:10. > :03:16.been kept from them so as not to influence their decision. She was

:03:17. > :03:19.used as forced labour, ill treated and exploited financially and

:03:20. > :03:25.repeatedly raped by Ilyas Ashar We have been trying to bring the couple

:03:26. > :03:30.to justice for this catalogue of abuse. What is happening to her

:03:31. > :03:33.now? She is being supported, living a good life now. Living up to her

:03:34. > :03:52.true potential, she is a bright girl. This afternoon, we are asked

:03:53. > :03:58.`` we as Ilyas Ashar's wife what had happened.

:03:59. > :04:01.By the time the girl was found in Eccles her ordeal had gone on from

:04:02. > :04:07.Worcester decade. During that time she passed through UK immigration on

:04:08. > :04:10.many occasions, yet no one realised what was going on. It has now raised

:04:11. > :04:18.serious questions about the effectiveness of order checks. Our

:04:19. > :04:23.reporter has the looking at how the little girl went unnoticed.

:04:24. > :04:27.In court, the prosecution said it was a "mystery and matter of

:04:28. > :04:30.concern'' how a child that age could get through immigration and there

:04:31. > :04:33.may be "significant and proper' criticism of the Border Agency,

:04:34. > :04:36.whose role had a "good deal to answer for". They're not the only

:04:37. > :04:41.ones who want answers. Serious questions need to be asked in this

:04:42. > :04:45.case. I will be asking the Home Secretary how this came to be. How

:04:46. > :04:51.could a passport check not sure that a child of ten is not a 20`year`old?

:04:52. > :04:57.That is not a mistake that anybody should make. Secondly, if there was

:04:58. > :05:04.not doubt about that, by reason not `` why were there not more attempts

:05:05. > :05:06.to communicate with this child? In court, the prosecution said it

:05:07. > :05:16.was a So how did she get into the country?

:05:17. > :05:19.Well, we understand that at Heathrow in 2000 the immigration Service

:05:20. > :05:23.which is now part of the UK Border Agency, allowed the girl, who was

:05:24. > :05:26.then just ten years old, into the country. They accepted the

:05:27. > :05:29.explanation that she was going to work as a domestic servant. We

:05:30. > :05:32.understand that she was travelling on a valid Pakistani passport, not a

:05:33. > :05:36.fake, and that that described her as being 20 years old ` twice her real

:05:37. > :05:38.age. That deception was missed by British border officials, Pakistani

:05:39. > :05:42.officials, medical staff who examined her, and airline staff And

:05:43. > :05:46.as they later moved her in and out of the country, that age gap was

:05:47. > :05:48.again missed by immigration staff at Manchester Airport. Human traffiking

:05:49. > :05:51.is the fastest`growing international crime according to the charities

:05:52. > :05:54.that help the victims. This case began 13 years ago, and one

:05:55. > :05:57.organisation told us that efforts to detect this type of crime have

:05:58. > :06:00.improved over the years. I was involved recently in training at

:06:01. > :06:03.Manchester airport and was a whole be put on for airport staff on how

:06:04. > :06:05.to spot the signs, what the procedures are, because there are

:06:06. > :06:07.laws and policies and procedures in place and there are not being

:06:08. > :06:09.followed across`the`board and across the country. Everybody needs to wake

:06:10. > :06:12.up to this. Take it seriously and use the procedures that are in

:06:13. > :06:15.place. This girl was stumbled upon by accident ` not by Border Agency

:06:16. > :06:17.staff or police, but by Trading Standards officers looking for

:06:18. > :06:21.something completely different. So tonight the question remains how

:06:22. > :06:24.she went undiscovered for so long. We put this catalogue of failures to

:06:25. > :06:28.the UK Border Agency and the Home Office. In a statement, the Home

:06:29. > :06:31.Office said this was a shocking case, where officials in both the UK

:06:32. > :06:34.and Pakistan had failed. They said they were determined to fight

:06:35. > :06:38.trafficking and were bringing in a Modern Slavery Bill during this

:06:39. > :06:41.session of Parliament. They are also working with the Border Agency to

:06:42. > :06:47.help them better identify and support potential victims.

:06:48. > :06:51.Next tonight, police investigating the disappearance and murder of a

:06:52. > :06:55.young woman 25 years ago are digging up a grave at a churchyard in

:06:56. > :07:01.Billinge near Wigan. The body of Helen McCourt has never been found.

:07:02. > :07:05.A pub landlord, Ian Simms, was found guilty of her murder. Tonight in an

:07:06. > :07:08.exclusive interview Helen's mother Marie told us she desperately hopes

:07:09. > :07:15.the police will finally find her daughter.

:07:16. > :07:20.But in the last error we have learned that on this occasion they

:07:21. > :07:25.have found nothing. Such hope for the families, such

:07:26. > :07:32.optimism this morning. But tonight, as I mentioned, news that the search

:07:33. > :07:35.has been unsuccessful. That is right. The police were acting on a

:07:36. > :07:41.tip`off that Helen McCourt's body may have been in a particular plot

:07:42. > :07:46.your, one that was apparently open at the time she disappeared 25 years

:07:47. > :07:51.ago. The tip`off did not come from Ian Simms, the man who killed Helen

:07:52. > :07:55.McCourt, but they said that the intelligence was strong enough for

:07:56. > :07:58.them to act on. They had to get permission from the Bishop of

:07:59. > :08:03.Liverpool's of this, the family who own the plot, to carry out the work

:08:04. > :08:08.today. In the last few moments we had the announcement that the

:08:09. > :08:12.contents of the grave that was open and match the church records and

:08:13. > :08:19.Helen McCourt's body was in fact not in this graveyard. What does that

:08:20. > :08:26.mean for Helen McCourt's family It is desperately sad for them. Helen

:08:27. > :08:29.McCourt's mother Marie has spent 25 years scouring the area here trying

:08:30. > :08:33.to find her body because it is so important to get a proper burial.

:08:34. > :08:40.Ian Simms will not save where he disposed of the body. In an

:08:41. > :08:44.interview a few hours ago, Marie McCourt told us why it was so

:08:45. > :08:48.important that she finds her daughter's body. We have never been

:08:49. > :08:56.able to acknowledge anything of how Helen died. It is too much torment

:08:57. > :09:04.for a mother to carry with her. I have had to carry it for 25 years.

:09:05. > :09:09.In that interview, Marie McCourt used to telling phrase about Ian

:09:10. > :09:13.Simms. She said that they were like Siamese twins. He has information

:09:14. > :09:19.that he won't divulge, she needs that information. He was due to have

:09:20. > :09:23.a parole hearing in February or March this year but that was

:09:24. > :09:28.cancelled. Marie McCourt does not know why. She has been told that his

:09:29. > :09:32.next parole hearing will not be before March next year. She of

:09:33. > :09:36.course will again be fighting to make sure that Ian Simms is not

:09:37. > :09:44.released from jail. She believes he is a dangerous man and the search

:09:45. > :09:53.for the body of her daughter, the thing that is so important to her,

:09:54. > :09:57.will continue. Other news from around the North

:09:58. > :09:59.West now, and a convicted murderer from Blackpool who killed his

:10:00. > :10:03.seven`year`old niece has lost his fight to vote while in prison. Peter

:10:04. > :10:06.Chester is serving a life sentence for strangling Donna Marie Gillbanks

:10:07. > :10:10.in 1977. He'd argued that EU law gave him a right to vote, even

:10:11. > :10:13.though he can't under British Law. Donna Marie's mother has welcomed

:10:14. > :10:16.the decision by the Supreme Court. I'm absolutely delighted by that

:10:17. > :10:22.decision. I don't think that they should have never been able to go to

:10:23. > :10:25.court to try to get this. They've lost all their human rights when

:10:26. > :10:41.they go into prison. I don't have any human rights and neither did my

:10:42. > :10:44.daughter who he strangled and raped. A spending watchdog has questioned

:10:45. > :10:46.the BBC's decision to spend ?24 million relocating staff to Salford.

:10:47. > :10:49.The Commons Public Accounts Committee says that although the

:10:50. > :10:53.move to Media City has largely been successful some of the pay`outs were

:10:54. > :10:55.excessive. The BBC says the amount spent reflects "higher stamp duty

:10:56. > :10:58.and other costs involved in relocating staff who owned

:10:59. > :10:59.high`value properties in the South East".

:11:00. > :11:03.Jewellery confiscated from criminals in Merseyside is being sold on eBay

:11:04. > :11:07.by police. Half the proceeds will go to the police force, the other half

:11:08. > :11:10.to the Government. Items in the auction include a diamond watch

:11:11. > :11:13.worth thousands of pounds that was seized during a drugs raid under the

:11:14. > :11:16.Proceeds of Crime Act. And the latest phase of a two`year

:11:17. > :11:19.project to restore a Liverpool park has begun. Volunteers are helping to

:11:20. > :11:21.improve Otterspool Park by planting woodland, restoring ponds and

:11:22. > :11:25.improving access. Lancashire Wildlife Trust hopes it will become

:11:26. > :11:28.a nature reserve. North West Tonight can reveal that

:11:29. > :11:31.dozens of NHS whistle`blowers are coming forward every week in the

:11:32. > :11:35.region with concerns around failing care. It comes as the Royal

:11:36. > :11:41.Blackburn is given more formal warnings over patient safety.

:11:42. > :11:44.It was already in special measures when a member of staff from A

:11:45. > :11:47.reported problems to the NHS watchdog, the Care Quality

:11:48. > :11:51.Commission. She claimed patients were repeatedly being failed, and

:11:52. > :12:01.nobody was listening. Here's our Health Correspondent Nina Warhurst.

:12:02. > :12:12.How did it come to this? A member of staff here at Blackburn's AMD

:12:13. > :12:16.reporting their own team. `` A On the back of the whistle`blower's

:12:17. > :12:22.warnings, here is one example of what the inspectors found. The

:12:23. > :12:26.lady, who had dementia, was sat in a chair for several hours, with a

:12:27. > :12:32.hospital going on, not even adequate clothing to protect her dignity

:12:33. > :12:35.They have been given yet more severe warning notices. But dozens of

:12:36. > :12:39.whistle`blowers are coming forward across the North West West every

:12:40. > :12:44.week, just like the one at the Royal Blackburn. For many of the staff

:12:45. > :12:48.here, that person was incredibly passionate about the job and wanted

:12:49. > :12:51.to do their very best by patients, but they said that when they tried

:12:52. > :12:55.to report problems nobody listened. It cannot have been easy, but they

:12:56. > :13:00.felt they had no other option but to go to the inspectors. We listen to

:13:01. > :13:03.stuff all the time. This whistle`blower said that they tried

:13:04. > :13:09.to refer the problems but were not listened to. People can raise

:13:10. > :13:12.concerns with us, we will take it seriously. We have an instant

:13:13. > :13:24.reporting system, we take that very seriously. Were entering `` we are

:13:25. > :13:29.entering a new period of transparency. We believe that the

:13:30. > :13:33.actual incidence of people reporting concerns is because they are greater

:13:34. > :13:38.now due to the financial cutbacks and pressures on staff. There is an

:13:39. > :13:42.impressive recovery plan in place at the Royal Blackburn. But here and

:13:43. > :13:48.across the NHS in stilling a culture for cleaner, clinician and

:13:49. > :13:58.consultant feel confident to speak out will take much longer.

:13:59. > :14:03.It is incredible, what is behind of whistle`blowers coming forward every

:14:04. > :14:07.week? That is right, dozens coming forward every week. Perhaps the most

:14:08. > :14:10.shocking thing to come out of the report into what happened at Mid

:14:11. > :14:14.Staffordshire was that staff knew what was happening was wrong but

:14:15. > :14:20.they felt powerless to say anything. The head of the NHS pledged that

:14:21. > :14:23.whistle`blowers within the NHS would be legally protected. We could see

:14:24. > :14:30.the impact of that trickling through. Paramedics, nurses,

:14:31. > :14:34.porters, what they say is, the reality is that they are very busy

:14:35. > :14:36.and do not have time to feed up the information to their managers. We

:14:37. > :14:39.still have an to feed up the information to their managers. We

:14:40. > :14:45.still haven't fully long way to go. We have will have the weather in a

:14:46. > :14:49.moment. Still to come on North West Tonight.

:14:50. > :14:52.In the sport we'll have an exclusive report on a possible financial

:14:53. > :14:55.lifeline from the Far East for Stockport County.

:14:56. > :15:12.And what makes a song stick in your head? The new research trying to

:15:13. > :15:15.find out. Let's get back on the road to

:15:16. > :15:18.recovery now, with Jayne McCubbin and Mr Osborne. Tonight they're

:15:19. > :15:21.visiting two places badly hit by public`sector cuts ` Liverpool and

:15:22. > :15:24.Wirral. New figures today show unemployment in the region has gone

:15:25. > :15:27.up in the last three months. 294,000 people are now unemployed `

:15:28. > :15:43.an increase of 24,000. But can people see recovery on the horizon?

:15:44. > :15:47.Here's Jayne. We're back on the road with Mr

:15:48. > :15:52.Osborne. Heading down to Liverpool. An order in city transformed by new

:15:53. > :16:00.money, regeneration, manufacturing might, job creation, export growth.

:16:01. > :16:04.But that is not the whole story Perhaps this new investment better

:16:05. > :16:10.reflects the city's fortunes. 3 jobs have been created at the new ?1

:16:11. > :16:18.cafe, a hot meal for a quid. This tells you it is a city which is

:16:19. > :16:24.skint. Denise and her daughter represent the one in three Liverpool

:16:25. > :16:29.households were nobody works. I would hate to be a teenager now

:16:30. > :16:35.because there is nothing for them. When I was a teenager I could go and

:16:36. > :16:38.work in the chippy. The roles of `` there was always something. Neither

:16:39. > :16:47.is nothing. But there is better news for Susan who has just landed a job

:16:48. > :16:53.here. You were employed for... 3 years. And then you're unemployed

:16:54. > :16:59.for a year? But now I have this job. But as the Chancellor's plan

:17:00. > :17:03.turning good for anybody else? Economic recovery is not being felt

:17:04. > :17:08.here in the city. 1600 jobs we have lost in the public sector, that is

:17:09. > :17:15.the equivalent of two Jaguar Land Rover factories closing. Let us go

:17:16. > :17:20.to Birkenhead, also badly hit by public sector job losses. We have

:17:21. > :17:24.been too reliant on public sector employment, that is not a bad thing

:17:25. > :17:32.but it means that there is not enough employment in the private

:17:33. > :17:37.sector. The balance is wrong. So we are bringing Mr Osborne back out of

:17:38. > :17:44.the boot over the water. What is his verdict on the recovery here? Shops

:17:45. > :17:53.are closing down every single week. It's not getting better yet? It s

:17:54. > :17:57.not. How do you think it's doing? Seems to be doing fine. More

:17:58. > :18:02.confidence in people. There's a lot more people I know that getting more

:18:03. > :18:16.work. What line of work? Construction industry. It's rubbish.

:18:17. > :18:22.Norway. `` Noel way. In yet another completely unscientific poll, many

:18:23. > :18:30.said yes, things are getting better, more people said that they are not.

:18:31. > :18:35.I wonder what reception he will get in Chester.

:18:36. > :18:39.Richard is here the sport. We have been talking about the economy of

:18:40. > :18:50.football little bit now. There could be some welcome news from China for

:18:51. > :18:53.Stockport County. Explain. Stockport County fans will remember the club's

:18:54. > :18:56.ambitious and in many ways ground`breaking tours of China. .the

:18:57. > :19:03.first of them over ten years ago. This is a brochure from that first

:19:04. > :19:08.visit to the West of China in 2 01. County then went over again in 004

:19:09. > :19:11.and helped to build up and invest in a club in the North East of the

:19:12. > :19:14.country that was called Stockport Tiger Star. Now North West Tonight

:19:15. > :19:17.has learnt a group of Chinese businessmen, involved at that time,

:19:18. > :19:20.and who remember how Stockport helped them, are coming over here

:19:21. > :19:24.with a view to possibly offering some financial help or investment to

:19:25. > :19:26.County, who of course now are a non`league club. Here's our

:19:27. > :19:31.exclusive report. Sometimes going the extra mile in

:19:32. > :19:37.Stockport's case can make all the difference. When they travel to the

:19:38. > :19:42.remote west of China in 2001 they were greeted like superstars. And

:19:43. > :19:46.just like their next to three years later, next time in front of the

:19:47. > :19:58.north`east, they played in front of huge crowds. Their former financial

:19:59. > :20:08.director has since become an expert in investment in British clubs. It

:20:09. > :20:13.was the true that became famous because we got a bigger crowd than

:20:14. > :20:23.Manchester United did in the city that we went to than the dead in

:20:24. > :20:26.Beijing on your subsequent tour Liverpool are now deeply involved,

:20:27. > :20:31.following the lights of Bolton Wanderers and Everton. It was

:20:32. > :20:35.important for us in two ways. One was the media exposure and trying to

:20:36. > :20:40.get the name of Everton across to all of the Chinese football finance.

:20:41. > :20:43.And then there was also unearthing some great football talent. I'm not

:20:44. > :20:51.sure that the TV numbers in terms of the Premier League contract in China

:20:52. > :21:02.are good now, but it must be sizeable. It becomes a very big

:21:03. > :21:09.important market. One decade on and the ground`breaking work could be

:21:10. > :21:12.about to come full circle. With Stockport now won their uppers,

:21:13. > :21:17.they've let it be known they love to return the favour. All those years

:21:18. > :21:21.ago the relationship was the other way and it was Stockport who were up

:21:22. > :21:25.here doing the helping out with the brand building. Now it is the other

:21:26. > :21:34.way round. What goes around comes around. We hope that they do have

:21:35. > :21:42.come here and perhaps to say to get involved in the little club down the

:21:43. > :21:45.road. New line Exciting news. They're

:21:46. > :21:47.expected at the beginning of next month, aren't they?

:21:48. > :21:50.And good news for Lancashire as well. England star James Anderson

:21:51. > :21:53.has signed a new contract at Emirates Old Trafford.

:21:54. > :21:57.Yes, Jimmy has added an extra year to his current deal that sees him

:21:58. > :21:59.through until the end of the 20 5 season. And after signing the deal,

:22:00. > :22:02.England's highest all`time wicket`taker said he was always

:22:03. > :22:17.proud to wear the Lancashire shirt and is delighted to extend his stay.

:22:18. > :22:38.Have a listen to this. Bet you can't get that out of head. Or this.

:22:39. > :22:42.MUSIC: Abba "Waterloo". As part of a major science project at the Museum

:22:43. > :22:45.of Science and Industry in Manchester, people are being asked

:22:46. > :22:47.to nominate their most catchy song. The research could help treat

:22:48. > :22:50.illnesses such as dementia and Alzheimer's. Elaine Dunkley reports.

:22:51. > :22:54.There are songs we like to remember and ones we'd rather forget, but

:22:55. > :23:03.getting a song stuck in your head could open up a world of research

:23:04. > :23:08.into the mind. What can we learn from a catchy song? Two as a

:23:09. > :23:11.scientist what we are interested in his musical memory. When you think

:23:12. > :23:16.of a catchy song you think, it makes me want to move or it is our song

:23:17. > :23:21.that I like. But it also keys into your long`term musical memory. You

:23:22. > :23:24.may hear a song ten years ago and then you hear it again and you can

:23:25. > :23:33.have a sudden say, I have heard that before, I know that. This is one of

:23:34. > :23:37.the biggest experiments of its kind for the Manchester science Festival,

:23:38. > :23:42.with members of the public compiling a scientific playlist. We want to

:23:43. > :23:46.get 100,000 people involved in Manchester and then global. Go

:23:47. > :23:51.online, get involved. Take a simple survey. It is very quick. Tell us

:23:52. > :23:54.what you catchy tune might be. Submit that, but also tell us a

:23:55. > :24:02.little bit about what you think makes it catchy. Throwing shapes at

:24:03. > :24:11.this silent disco is all in the name of scientific research. So what

:24:12. > :24:19.makes a song catchy? Dancing Queen by Abba. It is great. I have had the

:24:20. > :24:32.tune from Tetris stuck in my head for the last 20 years. HE SINGS

:24:33. > :24:36.Just over and over again. You try to get rid of it for years and it is

:24:37. > :24:40.just stuck there. Being able to name that change could

:24:41. > :24:59.become significant in our understanding of the memory.

:25:00. > :25:08.Good evening. We had a lot of rain around this afternoon. Very, very

:25:09. > :25:13.soggy indeed. I can show you the path that the rain took. It came in

:25:14. > :25:18.from the south`west where the green flashes are. That is where the

:25:19. > :25:23.heaviest of the rain was. There are disappointing in terms of

:25:24. > :25:28.temperatures. Tomorrow looks better. More rain in terms of Friday into

:25:29. > :25:31.Saturday. More rain into Sunday For tonight into Sunday there are still

:25:32. > :25:37.some hefty showers working in from across the Irish Sea. I think for

:25:38. > :25:42.however `` I think however as we head into Thursday we hang onto some

:25:43. > :25:46.cloud. It will be breezy as well but because of the cloud it is a mild

:25:47. > :25:50.night, temperatures dropping to seven or eight Celsius. The picture

:25:51. > :25:55.for tomorrow looks so much better. Drier and brighter tomorrow. Having

:25:56. > :26:01.said that, there will be the odd rogue shower snaking through. We

:26:02. > :26:04.have a change in the wind direction. When is much lighter. The cloud

:26:05. > :26:15.continues to melt away. The lighter winds wealthier pretty well for the

:26:16. > :26:19.temperature. This is what's coming your way on Friday. I think that

:26:20. > :26:30.might hold off until Friday night into Saturday. A bit miserable.

:26:31. > :26:38.I you not tempted to dance over Maybe next week.

:26:39. > :26:41.If you were up early this morning, you will have probably seen the

:26:42. > :26:48.absolutely beautiful pink sky that we had for the sunrise. Many of you

:26:49. > :26:54.have sent in beautiful pictures We have had them from all over the

:26:55. > :26:57.place, Lancashire, Manchester, Merseyside and Cumbria. Thank you

:26:58. > :27:03.for them. You some of the. Good night. `` here are some of the best.

:27:04. > :28:13.Good night. You ask us to get behind you

:28:14. > :28:16.and why should we? You're punching above

:28:17. > :28:18.your weight, aren't you? He wouldn't do that to me because

:28:19. > :28:25.he wasn't that sort of a man.