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:00:00. > :00:00.Welcome to North West Tonight with Roger Johnson.

:00:00. > :00:09.Our top story: An inquest hears a former police officer killed

:00:10. > :00:15.himself after two friends were murdered in the line of duty.

:00:16. > :00:17.Andrew Summerscale's life changed when Fiona Bone

:00:18. > :00:22.Also tonight: Moors murderer Ian Brady goes to the High Court,

:00:23. > :00:25.in the latest attempt to move to prison and starve

:00:26. > :00:29.The majesty and beauty of Blencathra - a new documentary

:00:30. > :00:37.follows a year in the life of a Lake District mountain.

:00:38. > :00:40.And saying "I do" all over again - hundreds of couples renew their vows

:00:41. > :00:58.One of the best days of my life this! It's been lovely.

:00:59. > :01:00.A former police officer killed himself, after struggling to cope

:01:01. > :01:07.with the loss of two colleagues killed in the line of duty.

:01:08. > :01:11.was a good friend of PCs Fiona Bone and Nicola Hughes.

:01:12. > :01:19.They were shot dead by the fugitive killer Dale Cregan in 2012.

:01:20. > :01:21.Andrew was among the first on the scene

:01:22. > :01:24.What he saw left him emotionally scarred.

:01:25. > :01:26.His son told an inquest his dad's life changed

:01:27. > :01:29.Here's our chief reporter Dave Guest.

:01:30. > :01:38.September 18, 2012. Two police officers have been murdered in cold

:01:39. > :01:43.blood in broad daylight. Fiona Bone and Nicola Hughes didn't stand a

:01:44. > :01:51.chance. Dale Cregan sprayed them with bullets and lobbed a grenade at

:01:52. > :01:57.them. Andrew Summers scales new the foreign -- fallen officers. They

:01:58. > :02:03.were friends as well as colleagues. Andy was deeply affected. It was an

:02:04. > :02:07.unprecedented event in policing across the UK. Four years later,

:02:08. > :02:15.Andrew went to the spike in Stalybridge and hanged himself. On

:02:16. > :02:20.his wrist, a GMP issued tag used for identifying bodies. He had written

:02:21. > :02:25.it out himself. Today his son told a court that his dad's life changed

:02:26. > :02:31.forever on that day in 2012. The inquest heard that he was diagnosed

:02:32. > :02:36.with post-traumatic stress. He suffered regular bouts of

:02:37. > :02:42.depression. He left the court -- force in 2015. The following year,

:02:43. > :02:45.he was dead. Are you satisfied that Greater Manchester Police did enough

:02:46. > :02:51.to support Andrew and others like him? We did as much as we could at

:02:52. > :02:55.the time, but the senior team at Ashton and the force as a whole. We

:02:56. > :03:01.did that through colleague to colleagues report, we had colleagues

:03:02. > :03:06.-- support from our colleagues welfare department, and help from

:03:07. > :03:10.outside agencies as well. In 1989, as a teenager, Andrew was in the

:03:11. > :03:15.crowd at Hillsborough when 96 Liverpool fans were crushed to

:03:16. > :03:19.death. The coroner said it was clear that Andrew was a man who had

:03:20. > :03:31.endured a number of tragedies in his life. She was satisfied that he had

:03:32. > :03:33.been suffering from a recurrence of the depression which had affected

:03:34. > :03:36.him so badly since the events of September 20 12. And she recorded a

:03:37. > :03:36.conclusion that he took his own life.

:03:37. > :03:39.The future of a new nuclear power plant near Sellafield has

:03:40. > :03:41.been thrown into doubt, after the Japanese company Toshiba

:03:42. > :03:46.said it would be pulling out of its construction.

:03:47. > :03:49.The ?10 million project at Moorside would create around 20,000 new jobs.

:03:50. > :03:54.This is supposed to be the future of nuclear power.

:03:55. > :03:57.Moorside nuclear plant is due to be built over the next few years.

:03:58. > :04:06.At a press conference earlier, Japanese company Toshiba announced

:04:07. > :04:08.massive financial losses, and said it would be selling its shares

:04:09. > :04:11.in Nugen, the company which plans to build Moorside.

:04:12. > :04:24.There are more than one Japanese company involved in this business,

:04:25. > :04:28.so we will continue to discuss with industry players what the future

:04:29. > :04:31.strategy might be. We've got an open mind about how best to deliver this.

:04:32. > :04:34.For 70 years, this part of Cumbria has been a hub

:04:35. > :04:39.Down the road from Moorside, Sellafield is being decommissioned.

:04:40. > :04:43.Local MP Tim Farron said a new plant was vital for jobs,

:04:44. > :04:47.but the government had made a fundamental mistake.

:04:48. > :04:57.I guess what this shows that -- is that if the Government puts all its

:04:58. > :05:03.eggs in a non-European basket, and if we are ourselves heading in in --

:05:04. > :05:05.and isolationist direction, we shouldn't be surprised when others

:05:06. > :05:14.behave in a nationally shouldest manner as well. -- and isolationist

:05:15. > :05:20.Moorside is part of a new generation of energy production -

:05:21. > :05:23.plans to build large pylons in the Lake District to transport

:05:24. > :05:28.The plant is due to be online in 2024.

:05:29. > :05:33.Financing the nuclear industry is extremely challenging. So I don't

:05:34. > :05:37.think it's any surprise that even very large international companies

:05:38. > :05:38.are finding difficulties with the sort of capital investment we are

:05:39. > :05:43.talking about. Toshiba said it had always planned

:05:44. > :05:46.to sell its shares in Nugen, and would still work

:05:47. > :05:48.on its development of Moorside. Ukip leader and North West MEP

:05:49. > :05:51.Paul Nuttall has apologised, after he admitted his claims

:05:52. > :05:53.that he lost "close personal The claims were made

:05:54. > :06:03.on his website in 2011, and have Mr Nuttall is also facing pressure

:06:04. > :06:06.to prove he was present at the 1989 stadium disaster,

:06:07. > :06:08.after newspapers He's described those

:06:09. > :06:21.allegations as "disgusting". Talks are underway for a possible

:06:22. > :06:29.buyout of Vauxhall's Ellesmere Port plant. Peugeot is in negotiations to

:06:30. > :06:32.buy loss-making European arm, the Cheshire plant narrowly avoided

:06:33. > :06:34.closure four years ago and was only saved after unions signed a deal

:06:35. > :06:37.that included a two year pay freeze. Work has begun pulling down parts

:06:38. > :06:40.of a historic church in Salford, which was destroyed

:06:41. > :06:42.in a suspected arson attack. The Grade II-listed Church

:06:43. > :06:44.of the Ascension in Lower Broughton Police have issued CCTV pictures

:06:45. > :06:48.of a young male seen running away from the scene,

:06:49. > :06:53.and are appealing for information. A man who went for a job interview

:06:54. > :06:56.with Greater Manchester Police ended up getting arrested for drink-

:06:57. > :06:58.driving - after officers smelled The unnamed man pleaded

:06:59. > :07:03.guilty, and was banned The Moors murderer Ian Brady has

:07:04. > :07:12.spent the last three decades at a high security psychiatric

:07:13. > :07:16.hospital in Merseyside. He's desperate to get

:07:17. > :07:19.out and into a prison, where he's suggested he'd be allowed

:07:20. > :07:21.to starve himself to death. And today, his fight continued

:07:22. > :07:24.in the High Court in London. Brady wants the right to choose his

:07:25. > :07:27.own lawyer to represent him. But his legal battle has angered

:07:28. > :07:30.the brother of one of his victims - who says Brady shouldn't be

:07:31. > :07:32.given special treatment. He is perhaps Britain's

:07:33. > :07:37.most infamous man. With Myra Hindley, Ian Brady was one

:07:38. > :07:40.half of the Moors Murderers - serial killers who tortured

:07:41. > :07:41.and killed five Four of the victims were buried

:07:42. > :07:49.on Saddleworth Moor. Brady was jailed for life, and since

:07:50. > :07:53.1985 this has been his home - Ashworth high security hospital

:07:54. > :07:55.near Liverpool, where for many years But he wants to move

:07:56. > :08:01.to a Scottish prison; a bid Brady's refused to take

:08:02. > :08:09.part in another review unless his solicitor, Robin Maklin,

:08:10. > :08:11.who doesn't have a legal aid contract, is allowed

:08:12. > :08:20.to represent him. He's been bedridden, he has

:08:21. > :08:25.considerable breathing difficulties, is on oxygen and most of the time,

:08:26. > :08:29.and I've been dealing with him for over 25 years, and effectively I'm

:08:30. > :08:31.the only person that he has any confidence in in dealing with the

:08:32. > :08:33.matter. John Kilbride was one

:08:34. > :08:35.of Brady's victims - snatched from Ashton market

:08:36. > :08:37.aged just 12. His brother Terry says when others

:08:38. > :08:48.can't choose their lawyer, Brady My brother did not have a choice.

:08:49. > :08:55.And why should he have a choice to go back to Scotland, why should this

:08:56. > :09:00.appeal go through? He shouldn't have any rights at all, he should pay for

:09:01. > :09:04.it himself. He's got enough money. The interviews and everything he

:09:05. > :09:07.does, he's never out of the media, is he?

:09:08. > :09:09.Brady is certainly no stranger to the spotlight.

:09:10. > :09:11.He's refused to reveal where on the desolate moors

:09:12. > :09:13.12-year-old Keith Bennett is buried - taunting his victim's

:09:14. > :09:17.His mother died without ever being able to bury her son.

:09:18. > :09:19.Those who've studied him believe this court battle

:09:20. > :09:32.He's incredibly determined about his own self interest. So he has only

:09:33. > :09:36.got himself to consider, he has absolutely no other consideration

:09:37. > :09:38.for the niceties or the complexities of the justice system.

:09:39. > :09:40.Brady's legal team want permission for a full judicial review.

:09:41. > :09:43.But for the relatives of his victims, this latest legal

:09:44. > :09:45.battle is another way for Brady to take centre stage,

:09:46. > :09:55.You probably already know that in May, Greater Manchester

:09:56. > :09:58.and the Liverpool City region will be electing a Mayor as part

:09:59. > :10:05.Could Cheshire be the next area to be heading down that route?

:10:06. > :10:08.A devolution deal is looking more likely,after Warrington Council last

:10:09. > :10:10.night agreed to work with other local authorities

:10:11. > :10:15.Our political editor Nina Warhurst joins me now.

:10:16. > :10:23.Where are we up to regarding Cheshire and devolution? Warrington

:10:24. > :10:27.had been split, the council had been split over whether to try and

:10:28. > :10:32.piggybacked the Liverpool city region deal, or try and join up with

:10:33. > :10:35.Cheshire. Last year they rejected the Cheshire idea, but last night we

:10:36. > :10:41.decided that is the best way forward. The council leader says

:10:42. > :10:45."This is the best we can get on the table." It means they can start

:10:46. > :10:51.working with the Cheshire councils, talk to the Treasury about getting a

:10:52. > :10:58.mayoral deal and about getting their hands on the guaranteed ?900 million

:10:59. > :11:04.if devolution goes ahead. Just explain devolution. There are

:11:05. > :11:09.probably still people at home thinking they do not know what it

:11:10. > :11:12.means. It is the transfer of power away from Westminster to local

:11:13. > :11:16.authorities. Over the next three days I'll be talking about exactly

:11:17. > :11:21.what that will mean for people across the North West. I'll be

:11:22. > :11:25.talking to some famous faces, including George Osborne, remember

:11:26. > :11:30.him? About why the deal happen, I'll be talking to Ken Livingstone, who

:11:31. > :11:33.was the first elected mayor of Greater London, and tips he might

:11:34. > :11:38.have for our elected mayors here, and also Haley from Coronation

:11:39. > :11:46.street! She'll be talking about the cultural impact of devolution. And

:11:47. > :11:50.also Phil Redmond. So that is over the next three days, some chunky

:11:51. > :11:53.pieces on what devolution will mean to all of us across the North West.

:11:54. > :12:04.Very interesting, thank you very much indeed.

:12:05. > :12:07.Now, the region's dairy farmers have been celebrating a steep rise

:12:08. > :12:09.in the money they're paid to produce milk.

:12:10. > :12:11.Over the past 18 months the so-called "farm gate price"

:12:12. > :12:14.has risen to an average of about 26p per litre.

:12:15. > :12:16.That's significantly better than the 15p or less that some

:12:17. > :12:20.But there's a fear the price increase has stalled -

:12:21. > :12:23.This from our Cheshire reporter, Mark Edwardson.

:12:24. > :12:25.It's early, and cold, at Orchard Farm near Holmes Chapel.

:12:26. > :12:29.Ray Brown's herd is amongst the cream of dairy farming.

:12:30. > :12:42.Over the past decade, average farm gate prices have been volatile,

:12:43. > :12:45.dropping to just 23.9p per litre in 2015, and some

:12:46. > :12:52.Recently the average has bounced back to just over 26p -

:12:53. > :12:57.We were expecting to be having a peak now to start to be able to do

:12:58. > :13:01.a little bit of reinvesting, to keep ourselves in a fit shape.

:13:02. > :13:03.And it's plateaued out, and one or two dairies are even

:13:04. > :13:09.dropping the price already which is so frustrating, really.

:13:10. > :13:14.Supermarkets, processors and even the Russians,

:13:15. > :13:16.who've imposed an embargo on British not, have been blamed

:13:17. > :13:20.Now Europe is leaving a sour taste in Ray's mouth.

:13:21. > :13:22.They've seen the peak was going to be coming,

:13:23. > :13:24.and unfortunately they've put so many more cows on,

:13:25. > :13:28.produced so much more milk, they've flooded the market again.

:13:29. > :13:30.Ray Brown's about to adopt Becky Sharrocks

:13:31. > :13:36.It's more of a lifestyle that I've just grown

:13:37. > :13:49.We don't want to expand any more, as we feel like, the British public,

:13:50. > :13:52.this is kind of seen as a lot nicer than these big factory farms,

:13:53. > :13:56.and we are personal with all our animals as you can see!

:13:57. > :13:59.Some farmers could have been paid 15p a litre for milk today,

:14:00. > :14:01.others double that - but all collected

:14:02. > :14:04.It's ridiculous, it really is a sort of hang-up and a throwback

:14:05. > :14:10.So the contracts haven't changed, they need to change.

:14:11. > :14:12.We're going to have to develop markets abroad, we're going to have

:14:13. > :14:16.to work together better to get a better reward, or there will be

:14:17. > :14:19.Ray wants to bottle the spirit of farming.

:14:20. > :14:21.He agrees working together is the way forward.

:14:22. > :14:23.We need to actually be working more cooperatively

:14:24. > :14:34.with the rest of the food chain, to make sure that we have a stable

:14:35. > :14:37.with the rest of the food chain, to make sure

:14:38. > :14:40.future, and the British public can choose British products.

:14:41. > :14:42.Ray Brown also believes high standards and Brexit

:14:43. > :14:46.will save what's left of dairy farming in the UK.

:14:47. > :14:54.The majesty of the mountain, captured by an extraordinary

:14:55. > :14:56.film-maker. And, roses are red -

:14:57. > :14:58.it's the Wigleys' anniversary. Today marks 75 years married

:14:59. > :15:11.for Arthur and Gertie. Dear darling ducky. I love you as

:15:12. > :15:22.you are so marquee! Alfred Wainwright, whose guides

:15:23. > :15:26.to the Lake District have delighted generations,

:15:27. > :15:28.called it "one of the grandest If you like a hike,

:15:29. > :15:33.you're probably familiar But you probably don't know it quite

:15:34. > :15:37.as well as Terry Abraham. Terry has spent a year filming

:15:38. > :15:40.its every mood for a documentary Stuart Flinders has

:15:41. > :15:54.been to meet him. In the Lake District's far north

:15:55. > :15:57.it's more than 800 metres high - But those are just

:15:58. > :16:15.the vital statistics. Blencathra is one of the most

:16:16. > :16:24.popular of the Lake District fells. Alfred Wainwright in his famous

:16:25. > :16:31.guides called it one of the grandest objects in Lakeland. It was, he

:16:32. > :16:34.said, "The mountaineer's Mt." Or as Terry Abraham calls it, "The

:16:35. > :16:39.people's Mt". -- Mt. There's something seductive about

:16:40. > :16:50.the shape of it from a distance. Blencathra, she's got a feminine

:16:51. > :16:55.character. I liken her to a lady, but a lady with bite. You've got

:16:56. > :16:58.these claws reaching down to the A66.

:16:59. > :17:00.This is the follow-up to Terry's film about Scafell Pike.

:17:01. > :17:03.And if you thought this was the culmination of a life's

:17:04. > :17:04.work as a film-maker, you'd be wrong.

:17:05. > :17:11.Your background isn't as a professional film-maker. No, I'm not

:17:12. > :17:14.formally trained, I'm self-taught. A lot of people will find that hard to

:17:15. > :17:20.believe when they look at your pictures. You are making me blush!

:17:21. > :17:23.It's very kind of people when they complement my work and admire the

:17:24. > :17:31.length I go to to capture these shots. I'm quite humble about it

:17:32. > :17:38.all. I'm just a fell walker. Sharp edge, at its best. Winter

:17:39. > :17:41.conditions... Who needs the Himalayas or the Alps?

:17:42. > :17:43.This is a film about people as much as solid rock.

:17:44. > :17:58.I would think that probably 80% of people who were born and bred here

:17:59. > :18:04.have never been up Blencathra, and never wish to go at it. That is not

:18:05. > :18:08.for the local people. You are a bit funny in the head if you live here

:18:09. > :18:17.and go up Blencathra, it is for the tourists! What's next for you? It

:18:18. > :18:18.has to be Helvellyn, arguably the most popular fell in the Lake

:18:19. > :18:20.District national Park. Fell walkers and armchair fell

:18:21. > :18:23.walkers are in for a treat. Expect one of Lakeland's most

:18:24. > :18:26.popular fells to become even more And you can watch the full

:18:27. > :18:32.programme, Life of a Mountain: A Year On Blencathra,

:18:33. > :18:34.at nine'o'clock this Football - and Manchester City's

:18:35. > :18:59.striker Gabriel Jesus faces up to three months on the sidelines

:19:00. > :19:02.after suffering a serious foot injury in last night's 2-0 win

:19:03. > :19:04.against Bournemouth. The 19-year-old, who's scored

:19:05. > :19:06.three goals since joining the club in January,

:19:07. > :19:08.was taken off in the 15th minute Raheem Sterling put City

:19:09. > :19:12.ahead shortly after, before later turning provider

:19:13. > :19:37.for substitute Sergio Aguero whose It would have escaped your attention

:19:38. > :19:44.that it's Valentine's Day today. -- it won't have. We've got a couple of

:19:45. > :19:45.stories to warm your heart. We will meet a rather special married couple

:19:46. > :19:52.in a minute. But love is certainly in the air

:19:53. > :19:55.in Liverpool today - hundreds of couples have

:19:56. > :19:57.renewed their wedding vows in the iconic Cunard

:19:58. > :19:58.building this morning. Between them all they've racked up

:19:59. > :20:01.more than 7,000 years of matrimony, and Katie Walderman was there

:20:02. > :20:04.to witness the mass love-in. What could be more romantic

:20:05. > :20:06.than renewing your wedding Well, how about doing it

:20:07. > :20:19.with almost 200 people others - Where romantic people. When not

:20:20. > :20:25.arguing! I am as nervous now as I was on the

:20:26. > :20:32.11th of March 19 67. One of the best days of my life, this! Today we were

:20:33. > :20:37.together, and we looked outside and the dawn was coming up because we

:20:38. > :20:38.had to get here early, and it was lovely to see the moon and we were

:20:39. > :20:40.listening to the radio... Radio Merseyside put out the call

:20:41. > :20:42.for some old romantics to say "I do" again -

:20:43. > :20:55.and these are the lovebirds Everyone's got their different

:20:56. > :21:06.reasons for coming here, but all under the umbrella of love. Marriage

:21:07. > :21:08.assumes many different forms throughout the year...

:21:09. > :21:10.Even the registrar's feeling the love.

:21:11. > :21:11.Pat's not only carrying out the blessing -

:21:12. > :21:24.When we heard about this ceremony, we thought, let's do it ourselves.

:21:25. > :21:31.We're just made up to do it, aren't we? Our wedding way was a desert --

:21:32. > :21:38.our wedding day was a disaster, we spent it in hospital with the baby.

:21:39. > :21:42.I didn't like him at first, he played cat and mouse around the

:21:43. > :21:49.table and eventually I gave in to him. It's been 43 years, three weeks

:21:50. > :21:55.and six days. 25 years in September. Does it feel 25 years. Yeah. It

:21:56. > :21:59.And this lovely lot has racked up more than 7,000 years

:22:00. > :22:10.Tolerance. Just agreeing with everything she does and says. I

:22:11. > :22:23.don't believe that! Doing as you're told. Happy bride is a happy life. A

:22:24. > :22:26.bit of give and take, I give, he -- she takes!

:22:27. > :22:27.I hope you're listening, Mr Walderman?

:22:28. > :22:33.BBC North West Tonight, Liverpool.

:22:34. > :22:39.They all have a sense of humour in common.

:22:40. > :22:52.There's one couple who DON T need what I'm told! -- all the blokes.

:22:53. > :22:54.Arthur and Gertrude Wigley, from Newton-le-Willows,

:22:55. > :22:55.are celebrating their 75th wedding anniversary today.

:22:56. > :22:58.Gertie now lives in a care home but Arthur often visits,

:22:59. > :23:00.and the pair say they're still very much in love.

:23:01. > :23:04.When Gertrude and Arthur got married, they didn't realise

:23:05. > :23:07.There was a war on, and other things to think about.

:23:08. > :23:11.To be honest, we didn't know what day it was.

:23:12. > :23:25.Oh, he's not romantic, but he's a nice person.

:23:26. > :23:39.But Gertie says Arthur has looked after well.

:23:40. > :23:49.Well, she was always well-behaved and...

:23:50. > :23:57.So what's the secret of their successful marriage?

:23:58. > :24:06.And if we'd fallen out, it's not been...

:24:07. > :24:24.Their families say it is Arthur and Gertie's sense of humour that's

:24:25. > :24:41.75 years married! Congratulations to them. They always say a sense of

:24:42. > :24:47.humour, that's what it is. You need one, don't you!

:24:48. > :24:52.I'm not saying anything, I'll get into trouble!

:24:53. > :24:57.To end our Valentine's theme, a tale of love and courtship from a bygone

:24:58. > :25:01.area. In 2014 Ian and Sheila were out with

:25:02. > :25:07.a metal detectors when they discovered half of a 450-year-old

:25:08. > :25:12.silver ring with the word "Yours" inscribed on it.

:25:13. > :25:18.Now, they have found the other half, and found that when you put the two

:25:19. > :25:23.pieces together, it reads "I am yours." They have donated the ring

:25:24. > :25:29.to South Whipple Museum. Amazing coincidence. -- South

:25:30. > :25:35.Ribble. It's nice to have a bit of uplifting

:25:36. > :25:41.use. -- news. Now, Dianne is yours for

:25:42. > :25:45.the next two and a half minutes. Good evening, as we go through the

:25:46. > :25:48.next couple of days, the wind will be changing direction virtually

:25:49. > :25:53.every day, but the weather doesn't change that much. It is much milder

:25:54. > :25:57.than it has been. Over the last couple of days the temperatures have

:25:58. > :26:02.been fairly low. As we go over the next couple of days we will get back

:26:03. > :26:07.into double figures. But there will be some rain and an awful lot of

:26:08. > :26:11.cloud cover. But for many of us it has been quite chilly, so it is a

:26:12. > :26:16.bit of a welcome change. As we speak, for most of us, the morning

:26:17. > :26:20.was OK, through the afternoon the cloud has moved in, and over the

:26:21. > :26:24.next couple of hours that rain moves in. It's not going to last for too

:26:25. > :26:27.long, and it will move along and places will dry up as we have

:26:28. > :26:33.throughout midnight. -- towards midnight. Through the day

:26:34. > :26:39.to day we got to six, seven and 8 degrees in some places, and

:26:40. > :26:42.overnight six and seven everywhere. There's going to be quite a bit of

:26:43. > :26:47.cloud cover in the morning, I don't think that will change too much. You

:26:48. > :26:51.can see a few little bits of rain working their way through, but it's

:26:52. > :26:54.just a small amount. Once you get past late morning and into lunchtime

:26:55. > :27:01.you've got that other area of rain working its way in, turning a little

:27:02. > :27:03.bit gloomy than through the afternoon, there will be a

:27:04. > :27:08.clearance, possibly not before the sun goes down, but your daytime

:27:09. > :27:11.temperatures will rise to around nine or 10 degrees. That's not too

:27:12. > :27:15.bad. So after and Gertrude have managed

:27:16. > :27:21.75 years of marriage. I reckon we've got to be over half a century

:27:22. > :27:28.between us. I'm 20, Annabelle can't quite remember...

:27:29. > :27:38.It's more than 20, but not quite 25. I think we settled on 18. It's a

:27:39. > :27:44.good job you're both likely to die, isn't it, really!

:27:45. > :27:48.Happy Valentine's Day. Good night! -- you're both working tonight.