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:00:00. > :00:00.tonight. Their arch -- there are plans for children as young as four

:00:00. > :00:00.to be taught about healthy Welcome to North West Tonight with

:00:00. > :00:08.Annabel Tiffin and Roger Johnson. Travel disruption for

:00:09. > :00:12.thousands of passengers - as a wall collapses on to the track

:00:13. > :00:16.at Lime Street Station in Liverpool. It's been a bit of

:00:17. > :00:17.a nightmare, really. I'm going to have to get

:00:18. > :00:20.about three trains now. In the last 24 hours,

:00:21. > :00:22.about six, seven hours So it's been quite horrific

:00:23. > :00:30.for me, to be honest. The station isn't expected

:00:31. > :00:32.to reopen until next week. 27 years in jail for the violent

:00:33. > :00:36.paedophile who hid one of his victims in this hole behind

:00:37. > :00:40.the fridge at his Manchester home. A London style Oyster card

:00:41. > :00:42.and more local routes. MPs debate how devolution

:00:43. > :00:44.might change Greater It's either I'm going to lose my leg

:00:45. > :00:54.or I'm going to lose my life. So obviously you're going to choose

:00:55. > :00:57.the leg, aren't you? No trains are expected to run

:00:58. > :01:15.in or out of Liverpool Lime Street station until next week -

:01:16. > :01:21.after a wall collapsed sending 40 tonnes of debris onto the track

:01:22. > :01:30.and cutting off the station. Network Rail said a section

:01:31. > :01:33.of track-side wall, loaded with concrete and cabins by a third

:01:34. > :01:36.party, collapsed last night. Our reporter Lindsey Prosser

:01:37. > :01:38.is at the station now. Lindsey, what more do we know

:01:39. > :01:50.about what happened? 200 tonnes of rubble hit the rails

:01:51. > :01:55.when part of a retaining wall in a cutting collapsed,

:01:56. > :01:57.the emergency warnings were triggered and there were no

:01:58. > :02:00.trains travelling on the tracks Network Rail say the land

:02:01. > :02:08.above the wall is privately owned and on that land five containers

:02:09. > :02:10.which hold tonnes of material need to be moved before

:02:11. > :02:15.the area can be made safe. Tonight, rail replacement buses

:02:16. > :02:17.are taking Virgin Trains London bound passengers to Runcorn

:02:18. > :02:22.and travellers coming into Liverpool from the East are being advised

:02:23. > :02:25.to change to local services at Hunts Cross or Liverpool South

:02:26. > :02:29.Parkway but undoubtedly there's Something's happened,

:02:30. > :02:36.just deal with it. It's been a bit of

:02:37. > :02:38.a nightmare, really. I'm going to have to get about three

:02:39. > :02:41.different trains now. I think in the last 24 hours,

:02:42. > :02:44.about six or seven hours So, it's been quite horrific

:02:45. > :02:47.for me, to be honest. They've handled it

:02:48. > :02:49.quite well, actually. To be fair, a lot of people have

:02:50. > :03:05.told us the information, so... Now, Peter from network or rail

:03:06. > :03:09.joins me. What is the latest? We have a team on site. The browned on

:03:10. > :03:16.top of the wall, where it collapsed is still very unstable -- the

:03:17. > :03:19.ground. We have to make it safe before going down to the tracks to

:03:20. > :03:26.remove the double. How long do you think it is going to be before Lime

:03:27. > :03:31.Street will be open? Several days. We have 20 47 work to do. We still

:03:32. > :03:37.have some investigation to do before we can make the error free safe. Our

:03:38. > :03:42.enquiries ongoing? Yes. We are continuing enquiries to find the

:03:43. > :03:47.cause, that will go on until we have an answer, basically. Thank you for

:03:48. > :03:51.joining me. The advice tonight is to check before you travel. Back to you

:03:52. > :03:54.in the studio. Thanks very much indeed. Live at Lime Street station

:03:55. > :04:01.in Liverpool. A violent paedophile who made

:04:02. > :04:04.a hole in his home to hide a young a girl he was abusing,

:04:05. > :04:07.has been jailed for 27 years. Michael Dunn raped and abused

:04:08. > :04:10.four girls over several He kept one of them prisoner

:04:11. > :04:14.at a house in Mottram near Hyde Dunn was sentenced at

:04:15. > :04:17.Teesside Crown Court earlier - The judge described Michael Dunn

:04:18. > :04:20.is a devious, manipulative and controlling man with a strong

:04:21. > :04:24.urge to dominate. He persistently raped

:04:25. > :04:26.and was violent to two women Today, he was jailed for 27

:04:27. > :04:30.years for those crimes, and the rape and sexual assault

:04:31. > :04:33.of two other children. I think that he deserved

:04:34. > :04:37.more than what he got. I think the judge was very lenient,

:04:38. > :04:41.and has been very kind to him considering he's got away

:04:42. > :04:43.with what he's doing They'll serve the rest

:04:44. > :04:50.of their lives. One of the victims was just 14

:04:51. > :04:57.when Dunn began to room her at his He offered her an escape

:04:58. > :05:06.from a sexually abusive home life, but then he too began to rape

:05:07. > :05:08.and control her. When the police came looking

:05:09. > :05:17.for her, she would hide in this hole created by the Dunn at his house,

:05:18. > :05:20.covered by plasterboard and guarded The court heard she moved

:05:21. > :05:24.with Dunn and the other woman around the north-east,

:05:25. > :05:33.eventually settling in our house around the north-east,

:05:34. > :05:35.eventually settling in a house The abuse lasted until 2015,

:05:36. > :05:41.when Dunn's crimes were reported. I would applaud the victims

:05:42. > :05:43.and witnesses, due to the strength and courage

:05:44. > :05:45.that they have displayed. And equally, I would like to add

:05:46. > :05:48.that eventually, their voices were heard and more importantly,

:05:49. > :05:50.they were all believed as well. At his trial in January, Dunn,

:05:51. > :05:53.now 58, was also found guilty of the rape of a ten or 11-year-old

:05:54. > :05:57.girl in the late 70s in Manchester. And the sexual abuse of another

:05:58. > :05:59.14-year-old girl in 1993. Now, that abuse was reported

:06:00. > :06:02.to Greater Manchester Police, They are now being investigated

:06:03. > :06:05.by the Independent Police Passing sentence, the judge

:06:06. > :06:12.said that Dunn posed Nearly 500 animals have died in four

:06:13. > :06:22.years, at the South Lakes Safari Zoo in Dalton in Furness,

:06:23. > :06:24.according to a local It shows that between

:06:25. > :06:28.December 2013 and last Barrow Council will consider

:06:29. > :06:35.whether to grant the site Keeper Sarah McClay was mauled to

:06:36. > :07:03.death by a tiger at the zoo in 2013. The Chief Exective and two other

:07:04. > :07:06.senior officers at Bury Council have been suspended -

:07:07. > :07:08.following allegations they failed to act swiftly enough -

:07:09. > :07:10.after a Councillor was accused of taking indecent

:07:11. > :07:12.images of children. It's claimed they didn't

:07:13. > :07:13.properly follow child Liverpool has seen the biggest drop

:07:14. > :07:17.in the country of families securing places at their first choice

:07:18. > :07:19.of secondary school, The City Council says

:07:20. > :07:23.there are a number of reasons - including an increase in Liverpool's

:07:24. > :07:25.population and a 12% A school which is at the centre

:07:26. > :07:34.of a bitter row between parents, staff and the headteacher

:07:35. > :07:36.will re-open tomorrow. Pupils have been unable

:07:37. > :07:38.to attend Bollin Primary - in Bowdon near Altrincham

:07:39. > :07:45.- since Monday. School suddenly shut down earlier

:07:46. > :07:52.this week. The front gates were open

:07:53. > :07:58.but he playground was empty but not Today parents of pupils

:07:59. > :08:02.at Bollin Primary school were told to send some

:08:03. > :08:10.of their children back Don't think we can dismiss the last

:08:11. > :08:14.few weeks, there is a lot to take away and look at. We'll be looking

:08:15. > :08:18.at the events that have led up to that very critically and carefully.

:08:19. > :08:19.Trafford Council intervened after a relationship

:08:20. > :08:22.between the head teacher Michelle Brindle and teachers

:08:23. > :08:25.broke down acrimonously - the council has now applied

:08:26. > :08:27.to the regional schools commisoner to replace the governining body

:08:28. > :08:41.The head teacher wasn't in school today. In an e-mail sent out to a

:08:42. > :08:45.number of parents, the chair of governors confirmed an interim head

:08:46. > :08:49.will take over and be in school tomorrow for its phased reopening.

:08:50. > :08:52.but parents are divided - with petitions in support

:08:53. > :08:57.Today one parent welcomed a new head but said

:08:58. > :09:06.If I had stepped on earlier, if they had stepped in earlier when dozens

:09:07. > :09:12.of parents complaints haven't been addressed. When the governing board

:09:13. > :09:14.have been falling apart, this wouldn't be happening. If they had

:09:15. > :09:15.stepped in. the headteacher suspension -

:09:16. > :09:27.that turned out not to be the case. The council have confirmed a number

:09:28. > :09:31.of teachers have been suspended. I am aware of that video, and it is

:09:32. > :09:39.appropriate that we investigate the contents of it and whether there are

:09:40. > :09:44.any action is necessary as a result of it. Key stage two pupils will

:09:45. > :09:48.return tomorrow, key stage one on Friday and early years on Monday.

:09:49. > :09:51.Teachers have been under huge stress in the last few months, and they

:09:52. > :09:55.still an now. They're bidding knows what's going on. We are concerned

:09:56. > :10:01.they're going to be going back-to-school with tawdry stuff --

:10:02. > :10:07.nobody knows. The interim head was not available for comment. From her

:10:08. > :10:11.home, Michelle Brindle told us she had nothing to say.

:10:12. > :10:20.Still to come on North West Tonight.

:10:21. > :10:23.Remembering the miners strike. How the drama of the picket line has

:10:24. > :10:24.been recreated in dance. Why losing a leg couldn't undermine

:10:25. > :10:28.the remarkable talent that's If you a regular bus user you might

:10:29. > :10:41.get frustrated by exactly the same journey costing a different amount

:10:42. > :10:44.depending on the time of day MPs have been debating the buses

:10:45. > :10:57.built today. Nina Warhurst's been

:10:58. > :11:10.listening to the debate It's no exaggeration to say what is

:11:11. > :11:12.contained in this bill could transform transport in greater

:11:13. > :11:16.Manchester and the Liverpool city region, which is why our MPs have

:11:17. > :11:22.dominated the debate in now. Let me take you through exactly what is in

:11:23. > :11:26.it. First of all, for the first time since 1986, control of bus routes,

:11:27. > :11:30.affairs and timetables will be from the local council and from our

:11:31. > :11:39.elected May. For example, they'll be able to reopen routes which might be

:11:40. > :11:43.more socially valuable. The new ticketing system, a bit like the

:11:44. > :11:47.Oyster one in London where he can beat out. There will be clearer

:11:48. > :11:55.guidance to passengers, so a range of apps -- you can tap out. They're

:11:56. > :11:57.also updated at bus stops and on buses themselves to Chile which

:11:58. > :12:04.route is quickest and how to save money. -- to tell you. If you don't

:12:05. > :12:08.like the changes, you will have an accountable person to moan too.

:12:09. > :12:13.That'll be your elected Mayor. Are all of these changes necessary? The

:12:14. > :12:16.MP for Manchester Withington, explained to the House of Commons

:12:17. > :12:20.why the current system is so complicated.

:12:21. > :12:23.In greater Manchester, we have 22 different bus

:12:24. > :12:24.operators running around 440 general bus services.

:12:25. > :12:27.Each of those 22 has their own branding, different branding.

:12:28. > :12:34.The quality standards of the buses are inconsistent.

:12:35. > :12:36.The variety of fares and the pricing structure

:12:37. > :12:41.is confusing, we have apparently 140 types of bus tickets across

:12:42. > :12:45.And passengers have to pay a premium for a ticket to use

:12:46. > :12:52.Will this be beneficial for commuters?

:12:53. > :12:54.Well it seems these commuters in Piccadilly this

:12:55. > :13:07.Why can't they cover every arrow with just one ticket? It's

:13:08. > :13:11.ridiculous that every different bus has a different ticket. I could

:13:12. > :13:15.catch a bus and connect with trams, my journey would be easier and

:13:16. > :13:18.quicker. Every bus takes you to the same place, but it's different

:13:19. > :13:22.tickets you have to buy. It's just like, spending money. To add...

:13:23. > :13:25.If you think this is a return to nationalisation - it is not.

:13:26. > :13:30.This was a Conservative idea after all.

:13:31. > :13:35.Labour MPs have been asking today, why has taken a Conservative

:13:36. > :13:44.government to introduce changes that we have wanted for 30 years? We're

:13:45. > :13:47.going to stay on the road now. Six hours listening to the Buses Built

:13:48. > :13:49.might be more entertaining than being stuck in the back of a

:13:50. > :13:52.caravan! This week, we're on a Brexit tour

:13:53. > :13:55.of the region, finding out how people feel about the prospect

:13:56. > :13:57.of leaving the EU. Today, we're in the voting

:13:58. > :14:00.area of Cheshire East - where people narrowly voted out

:14:01. > :14:02.and where there's a large Here's our social affairs

:14:03. > :14:12.correspondent Clare Fallon. We're back on the road and yes,

:14:13. > :14:18.we are caravanning in a hailstorm. Our next destination is a town

:14:19. > :14:22.that's become home to thousands So your noun is here,

:14:23. > :14:35.and they come in this order. Learning rules of grammar that

:14:36. > :14:37.will be a mystery to some who were born and educated

:14:38. > :14:39.in the UK. Many who take English courses

:14:40. > :14:42.at the local college are Polish. After class, I sat down with some

:14:43. > :14:46.of the students to talk about Brexit Why do you think people

:14:47. > :14:59.in the UK voted to leave? There's a lot of immigration

:15:00. > :15:03.in here, and I think During his own trip around

:15:04. > :15:12.the region, Poland's ambassador to the UK told me it's been

:15:13. > :15:15.a difficult few months Most of them appreciate

:15:16. > :15:19.British hospitality, although they are worried about some

:15:20. > :15:25.incidents connected to hate crimes. On the other hand,

:15:26. > :15:32.there is a huge support. Between a pub and a Polish deli,

:15:33. > :15:36.we parked up in Crewe town centre and invite people to escape

:15:37. > :15:41.the freeze for a few minutes. Most of these places wouldn't exist

:15:42. > :15:48.without the immigrants. The hospitals would be an absolute

:15:49. > :15:52.devastation, wouldn't they? So I've got nothing against anybody

:15:53. > :15:57.coming here to work genuinely, We went round that and did

:15:58. > :16:06.whatever, didn't we? So you can't complain about people

:16:07. > :16:09.coming back in here now. As we head north before

:16:10. > :16:19.we are back on the motorway, we make a quick stop

:16:20. > :16:21.for a brew and chip bar. Ian McIntosh opened this

:16:22. > :16:24.cafe is couple of months I'm one of the Brexit

:16:25. > :16:29.voters, if you like. Yes, I'm not naive as to believe

:16:30. > :16:31.that there won't be But I think in the long term,

:16:32. > :16:37.I think the future for this country Once we've travelled through

:16:38. > :16:46.the initial difficult waters. There are many who share

:16:47. > :16:48.in's optimism about But this is a road no

:16:49. > :16:56.one's been on before. It will be down to the government

:16:57. > :17:11.to figure out how we get there. Where is she going next? She will be

:17:12. > :17:13.in High Peak tomorrow, so make sure you tune in.

:17:14. > :17:16.The miners' strike of the 1980s might seem an unlikely

:17:17. > :17:18.subject for a dance show - but it's the centrepiece

:17:19. > :17:22.But what's even more extraordinary is that four of the stars are local

:17:23. > :17:24.amateurs including a former heroin addict who were chosen

:17:25. > :17:27.to train with one of the country's top dance groups.

:17:28. > :17:35.An opportunity that doesn't come your way every day.

:17:36. > :17:38.The chance to perform on stage for the first time,

:17:39. > :17:42.and when you're not all that experienced at dancing.

:17:43. > :17:47.Only on a Saturday night when I've had a few!

:17:48. > :17:49.It's final rehearsals for the professional dancers

:17:50. > :17:52.and their amateur partners, who are chosen after taking

:17:53. > :17:59.The way we were layered into it and scaffolded

:18:00. > :18:05.So we just did a little bit more on the intensive day, Saturday,

:18:06. > :18:07.and then Sunday on the intensive the lads joined us and

:18:08. > :18:18.And we've blended as a team, I think.

:18:19. > :18:20.The miner's strike hit communities across the north-west.

:18:21. > :18:23.The man who choreographed this work about the dispute felt

:18:24. > :18:27.it was important to include local people in every performance.

:18:28. > :18:29.It's a fantastic thing for us to be working with communities.

:18:30. > :18:32.The piece is about community, and it felt wrong to make

:18:33. > :18:35.a piece about community without involving them somehow.

:18:36. > :18:46.So I think it really bad that each local area.

:18:47. > :18:48.The show reflects a battle for survival.

:18:49. > :18:50.Amateur dancer Kirsty had her own struggles,

:18:51. > :18:52.having overcome a former addiction to heroin.

:18:53. > :18:54.She is now enjoying life to the full.

:18:55. > :18:56.With me being in recovery the last year, I've totally

:18:57. > :18:59.transformed my life around, and I feel I can put

:19:00. > :19:01.a lot of personal pain and struggles and feel I can

:19:02. > :19:04.The production, Coal, opens tonight and the Leap Dance

:19:05. > :19:14.Festival runs in Liverpool until the 12th of March.

:19:15. > :19:18.Football - Manchester City manager Pep Guardiola says his team need

:19:19. > :19:20.to treat tonight's FA Cup replay against Huddersfield

:19:21. > :19:24.The high-flying Championship side held City to a 0-0 draw

:19:25. > :19:33.in the original tie in West Yorkshire.

:19:34. > :19:42.In the Championship Blackburn Rovers won their first home game under

:19:43. > :19:44.new manager Tony Mowbray to give their chances

:19:45. > :19:48.Rovers beat Derby County 1-0 at Ewood Park thanks

:19:49. > :19:51.They remain in the bottom three on goal difference.

:19:52. > :19:54.The North West has plenty of good footballers playing here.

:19:55. > :19:56.And Manchester City certainly has its fair share.

:19:57. > :19:59.But we're about to meet one who's the best in the world.

:20:00. > :20:00.Jamie Tregaskiss from Hattersley in Greater Manchester

:20:01. > :20:02.might not be a household name - yet.

:20:03. > :20:14.I started playing with this massive pain in my leg.

:20:15. > :20:21.Obviously, the first thing in my mind was not going to be able

:20:22. > :20:29.It was either, I'm going to lose my leg or I'm going to lose my life.

:20:30. > :20:32.So obviously you're going to choose the leg, aren't you?

:20:33. > :20:37.When I first kicked a ball on my crutches,

:20:38. > :20:45.It's not easy putting on one footy boot and a pair of sticks,

:20:46. > :20:52.Telling people I play for Manchester City makes my

:20:53. > :20:58.I like showing off, letting people know nothing gets in my way

:20:59. > :21:08.and I can still play football better than you!

:21:09. > :21:11.play better than you, certainly better than me!

:21:12. > :21:14.Jamie joins us now with Paul Kelly from Manchester City

:21:15. > :21:24.Watching you is jaw-dropping. Take us back to when you first realised

:21:25. > :21:28.you had to lose your leg. Football was your dream. Out of was that? I

:21:29. > :21:34.have been playing football since seven years old. Football has been

:21:35. > :21:38.my life. When I was 13, I found out I had bone cancer and had to lose my

:21:39. > :21:42.legs, the biggest thing was not being able to kick the ball again.

:21:43. > :21:47.You certainly perfected the art of kicking again! How much training has

:21:48. > :21:55.that taken, to get as good as you are now? I have been practising a

:21:56. > :22:01.lot with my friends in the Park, and... I've been training. Just

:22:02. > :22:05.training hard, yeah. Manchester City now has this... You explain. There

:22:06. > :22:10.is a team you have put together. Doing really well. The amputee

:22:11. > :22:15.programme is part of the one city disability programme, which provides

:22:16. > :22:17.opportunity for disabled people across greater Manchester with

:22:18. > :22:22.physical and mental disabilities. Which is part of why the foundation.

:22:23. > :22:34.The likes of Jamie N-Gage and play at the ageing -- engage and play at

:22:35. > :22:39.the amazing facilities. You play able-bodied teams as well? With a

:22:40. > :22:48.local teams to get our challenge across. We provide for children who

:22:49. > :22:53.want it for fun and we want people to engage and played international

:22:54. > :22:56.level. What is the dream, Jamie? Initially you are targeting the

:22:57. > :23:04.Manchester City first-team, all the riches of being a footballer. What

:23:05. > :23:08.is the goal? Are just want to continue playing football, enjoying

:23:09. > :23:13.myself. Travelling the world, playing football, doing something I

:23:14. > :23:17.love. Just continually inspiring people. I can't begin to imagine,

:23:18. > :23:21.anybody has been on crutches knows how difficult it is even just to

:23:22. > :23:24.walk along for a bit. But you are playing really quickly. You must

:23:25. > :23:30.have such enormous upper body strength to do that? Oh, yeah! How

:23:31. > :23:34.difficult was it to get used to that? Very difficult at first. It

:23:35. > :23:41.was a totally different ball game, playing football on crutches. But

:23:42. > :23:46.took to it quickly. It looks like you did. You kindly agreed to stay

:23:47. > :23:52.on after the programme to do a Facebook live for us, which we are

:23:53. > :23:55.grateful for. If you have access to Facebook, Jamie and Paul will join

:23:56. > :24:00.us there on our Facebook page and answer questions. I should imagine

:24:01. > :24:05.so. It has been fantastic meeting you, and all the best as well.

:24:06. > :24:14.Whatever got coming up, what is the big tournament? Abu Dhabi, the 23rd

:24:15. > :24:16.of March. Living the dream. Yes! Lovely to see you both. Let us have

:24:17. > :24:27.a quick look at the weather. We moved induced bring

:24:28. > :24:33.meteorologically. Most places some sunshine. Our Watchers pictures have

:24:34. > :24:38.been great -- we moved into spring. Plenty of blue sky there. The next

:24:39. > :24:42.couple of days, we are still in this unsettled pattern. Weather front

:24:43. > :24:46.after weather front. We still have the cold, gusty winds. A lot of this

:24:47. > :24:50.works towards us through the night. After a lovely day, everything

:24:51. > :24:54.changes overnight. We have this line of showers through Cumbria and

:24:55. > :24:58.Lancashire, but here we go. This is coming in over the next couple of

:24:59. > :25:03.hours. This is patchy. North Wales will take a lot of it out, it went

:25:04. > :25:08.to amount to too much. It will be significant towards 90 or ten Kim.

:25:09. > :25:16.As it goes over the high ground, there could be sweet or slow -- nine

:25:17. > :25:21.o'clock or ten o'clock, with sleet or snow. Even if there is a dusting,

:25:22. > :25:26.it will be gone. Overnight temperatures not too bad, perhaps -1

:25:27. > :25:31.in rural areas. Towns and cities two or three degrees. Four along the

:25:32. > :25:34.Merseyside Coast. Tomorrow, it is around first thing in the morning,

:25:35. > :25:38.so gloomy start to the day. Nothing like this morning. It will take some

:25:39. > :25:43.time to pull away. The breeze continues to be blustery through the

:25:44. > :25:48.morning. After lunchtime, you will start to see it all move out of the

:25:49. > :25:51.way. The sun comes out and a nice improvement from morning into

:25:52. > :25:55.afternoon. That spells of sunshine coming through. The breeze is

:25:56. > :26:06.blustery all the way through, so it went feel terribly good if you are

:26:07. > :26:12.out and about. Seven or eight realistically. If you're lucky you

:26:13. > :26:17.will get nine. After that, there is more weather to work its way

:26:18. > :26:21.through, wet weather. At times it will be wintry over the weekend. It

:26:22. > :26:27.will be wet, and could be windy. It's going to be wintry? Is that it

:26:28. > :26:31.is spring now. Yeah, the seasons don't listen, do they? What you hope

:26:32. > :26:37.for may not come up. That is almost certainly the case! Meteorologically

:26:38. > :26:41.spring? Just statistically. It starts on the first of the month,

:26:42. > :26:42.and we can tally all the statistics together. Thanks for watching, good

:26:43. > :27:08.night. I think my political beliefs are

:27:09. > :27:12.really quite straightforward. I believe that our country needs to

:27:13. > :27:14.work for everyone. Not just for the rich,

:27:15. > :27:17.not just for the privileged, not just for those who know

:27:18. > :27:20.the right people or who've got the loudest voices, but a country

:27:21. > :27:25.that really works for everyone, has the opportunity to be

:27:26. > :27:29.who they want to be.