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:00:00. > :00:07.Welcome to BBC Points West, with Alex Lovell and David Garmston.

:00:08. > :00:21.Reaction in Somerset, as Alexander Blackman

:00:22. > :00:23.has his conviction downgraded to manslaughter.

:00:24. > :00:30.In the heat of battle, things happen that shouldn't happen, that doesn't

:00:31. > :00:32.excuse it. I still feel he should never have been charge when you

:00:33. > :00:35.think of all these other people killing one another.

:00:36. > :00:38.A film-maker who was embedded with the Marines says there's a thin

:00:39. > :00:40.line between a court martial and a military cross.

:00:41. > :00:53.Police think four men could have important information.

:00:54. > :00:59.How people with disabilities are finding themselves shut out.

:01:00. > :01:02.And we saddle up with Lizzie Kelly, as she prepares for

:01:03. > :01:15.Alexander Blackman, from Somerset - the first British soldier to be

:01:16. > :01:18.found guilty of a battlefield murder in modern times - has

:01:19. > :01:24.The news was beamed across the UK as, outside the court in London,

:01:25. > :01:39.Also in the tens of thousands of supporters, especially from the

:01:40. > :01:42.Royal Marines family, who have stood behind us throughout to have played

:01:43. > :01:43.such an important role in getting us to this point. Thank you.

:01:44. > :01:46.Alexander Blackman, who was known as Marine A,

:01:47. > :01:49.is now awaiting a new sentence, after five judges agreed

:01:50. > :01:51.he was mentally impaired at the time of the killing.

:01:52. > :01:53.Our Somerset correspondent, Clinton Rogers, reports

:01:54. > :02:08.Clinton. Alex, thank you very much indeed.

:02:09. > :02:12.This is a Royal Marines town, 40 commando based around the corner. So

:02:13. > :02:17.it is not surprising that most of the people we have spoken to today

:02:18. > :02:23.have welcomed this judgment. Not everyone, we have also spoken to a

:02:24. > :02:26.former Royal Marines commander who said that Alexander Blackman had to

:02:27. > :02:30.be prosecuted for what he did. More on that in a minute. Notwithstanding

:02:31. > :02:34.the day's judgments, Blackman will not walk out of prison tonight,

:02:35. > :02:38.there needs to be a new hearing and a new sentence for his new

:02:39. > :02:39.collection of manslaughter. But today, at least, the Blackman

:02:40. > :02:43.supporters are celebrating. In Taunton - a Royal Marines town -

:02:44. > :02:46.you don't have to look far to find people flying the flag for Alexander

:02:47. > :02:48.Blackman. Well, that's better than it was,

:02:49. > :02:52.but I still feel that he should After all, he was fighting

:02:53. > :02:56.for his country, and things Yet there are those who believe

:02:57. > :03:02.Alexander Blackman had to be held Well, it was right

:03:03. > :03:07.that he was prosecuted. That sort of action has

:03:08. > :03:10.to be investigated. Simon Hollington was

:03:11. > :03:12.a Royal Marine for 24 years, Today, he told me Alexander Blackman

:03:13. > :03:17.had crossed the line of what was acceptable

:03:18. > :03:21.on the battlefield. I can understand how

:03:22. > :03:26.he did what he did. Otherwise, we are

:03:27. > :03:34.reduced to savages. What do you say, though,

:03:35. > :03:36.to the argument that what goes on on the battlefield should stay

:03:37. > :03:39.on the battlefield? If somebody breaks the law,

:03:40. > :04:00.and it is the law, then Sergeant Blackman is currently

:04:01. > :04:03.in Erlestone Prison, in Wiltshire, having served more

:04:04. > :04:05.than three years and any year Now, this all dates

:04:06. > :04:09.back to September 2011, when he was serving

:04:10. > :04:11.in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, when he shot dead a seriously

:04:12. > :04:13.injured Taliban fighter His actions captured

:04:14. > :04:16.on helmet camera. Legally, we can only

:04:17. > :04:19.play you the sound. But his prosecution

:04:20. > :04:20.prompted protests. This one, on the streets

:04:21. > :04:22.of Westminster. And in Parliament today,

:04:23. > :04:31.the local MP welcomed And will the Prime Minister agree

:04:32. > :04:37.with me that within the correct legal framework, those

:04:38. > :04:38.who defend our peace, protect our world from evil,

:04:39. > :04:41.be treated with fairness And another MP, a former soldier,

:04:42. > :04:49.said the right outcome had It was always my view that whilst

:04:50. > :04:53.Sergeant Blackman had behaved in the most despicable way,

:04:54. > :04:56.what he was guilty He was mentally ill

:04:57. > :04:59.when he did what he did. He had not been looked

:05:00. > :05:02.after by his chain of command. He had seen things that

:05:03. > :05:04.would have snapped the will And what he did was awful -

:05:05. > :05:08.truly, truly awful - but it wasn't murder,

:05:09. > :05:10.it was manslaughter. So murder has now formally

:05:11. > :05:14.become manslaughter, but the debate over the rights

:05:15. > :05:18.and wrongs of the shooting and the prosecution which followed

:05:19. > :05:20.it hasn't gone away. Well, the reporter, Chris Terrill,

:05:21. > :05:28.has met Alexander Blackman He was also embedded

:05:29. > :05:32.with the former Marines unit He has spoken to some of the men

:05:33. > :05:38.who were with Blackman on that day, for a special edition of Panorama

:05:39. > :05:43.which airs tonight. Would you think that what happened

:05:44. > :05:46.that day was the only time that And the same in every other

:05:47. > :05:58.conflict, where there I think it's just another day

:05:59. > :06:05.in Afghanistan and... And none of us got hurt,

:06:06. > :06:12.so it was a successful day, Chris Terrill joins

:06:13. > :06:25.us now from London. Thank you for coming on the

:06:26. > :06:29.programme. Just reminders of what the mission was on that particular

:06:30. > :06:36.day, they were trying to wrap the enemy and to kill them? Not exactly,

:06:37. > :06:43.no. Generally, that was the challenge of the Royal Marines, to

:06:44. > :06:48.lure out the enemy. Sergeant Blackman and his patrol was sent out

:06:49. > :06:51.on what is called a battle damage assessment, to assess the damage

:06:52. > :06:56.inflicted by an Apache helicopter on the insurgency. That is when he came

:06:57. > :07:01.across a very badly injured insurgent. And that led, as we know,

:07:02. > :07:07.to the killing. Your film is enormously powerful, you can see and

:07:08. > :07:15.feel the heat, the tension, the fear and so on. And yet when this killing

:07:16. > :07:22.took place, Sergeant Blackman was reciting Shakespeare and he seemed

:07:23. > :07:27.very calm? Yes, if you just look at the helmet camera footage by itself,

:07:28. > :07:31.anybody would think, guilty as charged, and the rates, lock him up

:07:32. > :07:33.and throw away the key. It is important to see beyond the

:07:34. > :07:38.pictures. Remember that on this critical day, the day that this

:07:39. > :07:45.killing happened, now manslaughter rather than murder, it was

:07:46. > :07:51.nonetheless the day at the end of a torrid six-month tour. What the lads

:07:52. > :07:55.still call a tour from hell. So I think we have to see this is the

:07:56. > :08:00.culmination of an experience that few of us could deal with. That is

:08:01. > :08:05.not to say, of course, as I have been hearing from your other

:08:06. > :08:08.contributors, that Blackman is without culpability. In fact, I have

:08:09. > :08:13.met him several times in prison and he is the first to throw up his

:08:14. > :08:17.hands and admit what he did and also that he is ashamed of what he did.

:08:18. > :08:22.He said, if only I can go back, Doctor Who Time Machine and undo

:08:23. > :08:27.what I did, I would do that, hand on heart. He accepts his culpability.

:08:28. > :08:37.But it is a sensible move forward today to see this in context is a

:08:38. > :08:40.very nuanced situation, but it has taken a long time for people to get

:08:41. > :08:42.their heads around it and we are getting closer to understanding it.

:08:43. > :08:46.I hope my film tonight throws a little more light on the doctors as

:08:47. > :08:49.well. I watched the film this afternoon, it is extraordinary.

:08:50. > :08:52.Thank you for joining us this evening.

:08:53. > :08:56.That Panorama programme will be on tonight, at 22:50, on BBC1.

:08:57. > :08:59.The police are trying to find four people who were in Trowbridge

:09:00. > :09:05.within minutes of a young man being stabbed to death.

:09:06. > :09:07.Jordan Taylor died early on Sunday morning.

:09:08. > :09:10.Detectives believe the four people may hold the key to what happened.

:09:11. > :09:12.Here's our Wiltshire reporter, Will Glennon.

:09:13. > :09:15.The pictures aren't easy to make out, but police think

:09:16. > :09:20.someone out there will know who these people are.

:09:21. > :09:23.The footage was all taken in the centre of Trowbridge -

:09:24. > :09:26.near Prospect Place and Timbrell Street -

:09:27. > :09:29.at the weekend, in the early hours, as Saturday night turned

:09:30. > :09:39.We have frantic evidence which can eliminate these people from all

:09:40. > :09:42.enquiries, so we would urgently like to hear from them or anybody who

:09:43. > :09:47.might recognise these individuals from the CCTV. It is likely some of

:09:48. > :09:50.the four would just walking home from a night out, they all passed

:09:51. > :09:51.closely to the incident and they may hold the key to solving the murder.

:09:52. > :09:56.They're especially interested in a white man with receeding hair,

:09:57. > :09:59.wearing a green parka, carrying a black bag.

:10:00. > :10:05.We are certain that someone knows this man and he might be from the

:10:06. > :10:10.local area. If you think you know any of the people in the CCTV, I

:10:11. > :10:14.would urge you to get in touch with us. Also, we are interested in

:10:15. > :10:15.speaking to anyone who matches the description and who may own a Star

:10:16. > :10:18.description and who may own a Star Wars logo bag.

:10:19. > :10:21.Most of the police cordons in place on Monday have now been removed.

:10:22. > :10:23.The searches for physical evidence are almost complete.

:10:24. > :10:27.Just one side road remains sealed off.

:10:28. > :10:29.Flowers and messages are still being laid outside

:10:30. > :10:31.the community hospital, the spot where Jordan collapsed

:10:32. > :10:37.and died after struggling there with his friend.

:10:38. > :10:43.When you look at all the flowers and read

:10:44. > :10:45.some of the tributes, you can tell Jordan

:10:46. > :10:49.His mum described him as 'The funniest, most loving young

:10:50. > :10:53.She said he loved life and lived it to the full.

:10:54. > :10:55.Jordan's brother, Damian, said they'll always be

:10:56. > :11:04.Will Glennon, BBC Points West, Trowbridge.

:11:05. > :11:11.I hope you've managed to enjoy the sunshine today.

:11:12. > :11:13.We've still got plenty more to bring you, including...

:11:14. > :11:16.On Ladies' Day at Cheltenham, we meet one female jockey

:11:17. > :11:31.The funeral has been held today for a man who'd saved his mother's

:11:32. > :11:33.life from a convicted killer seven years ago.

:11:34. > :11:36.27-year-old Kyle Clarke was run over by a car

:11:37. > :11:42.His family have spoken exclusively to our home

:11:43. > :11:48.affairs correspondent, Charlotte Callen.

:11:49. > :11:52.There's so much you can say about him, isn't there?

:11:53. > :11:56.Yeah, he was the highlight of my life.

:11:57. > :11:59.The hardest words a mother could ever say - goodbye to a son.

:12:00. > :12:09.This is a family who've experienced unimaginable pain.

:12:10. > :12:13.Kyle was just 19 years old when he saved his mum's life.

:12:14. > :12:15.He came home from work and interrupted a man who'd

:12:16. > :12:25.Kyle later learned that that man was convicted

:12:26. > :12:30.From that date, and from that day, when Kyle learnt the truth

:12:31. > :12:37.He then started to go downhill, mentally, physically.

:12:38. > :12:44.He stood by his mum, shoulder to shoulder through the trial.

:12:45. > :12:46.And her decision to talk publically about the need for more support

:12:47. > :12:54.Kyle was knocked down at a petrol station in Knowle West, in Bristol.

:12:55. > :12:58.Dragged underneath a car, he died at the scene.

:12:59. > :13:01.Over the dark seven years, it's always been,

:13:02. > :13:09.Is there anywhere we need to take you today, Mum?

:13:10. > :13:19.Do you need me to do anything with the kids, Mum?"

:13:20. > :13:22.And what I miss most from him is, wherever he was,

:13:23. > :13:24.whatever he was doing, I'd always get a text message

:13:25. > :13:27.at the end of each and every evening to say, "Night-night, Mum.

:13:28. > :13:29.I love you. See you in the morning."

:13:30. > :13:39.Through the tears and the sadness here today, his family

:13:40. > :13:45.try to remember the good times that they spent together,

:13:46. > :13:48.but they will face another challenge - a court case on Friday.

:13:49. > :13:51.Shakrun Islam is charged with manslaughter and a trial date

:13:52. > :13:55.Charlotte Callen, BBC Points West, Southmead.

:13:56. > :13:58.A former freeminer from the Forest of Dean has been cleared

:13:59. > :14:05.Dave Harvey was found not guilty of eight assault charges and one

:14:06. > :14:08.of indecently assaulting a 14-year-old girl.

:14:09. > :14:10.Mr Harvey, who's 78, is also a well-known

:14:11. > :14:19.Some people who use wheelchairs in Bristol have told us they feel

:14:20. > :14:22.the city has made them feel unwelcome and discriminated against.

:14:23. > :14:26.It comes as a website carried out an investigation on how easy

:14:27. > :14:28.the city is to negotiate for people with disabilities.

:14:29. > :14:40.It's a city with steps and steep hills.

:14:41. > :14:41.The Bristol streets can be challenging for those

:14:42. > :14:43.in wheelchairs, and getting inside shops, bars and

:14:44. > :14:51.You feel that you're not welcome in those places, because they're not

:14:52. > :14:58.adequately supporting you in allowing you to

:14:59. > :15:05.Some buildings have signs outside saying - you can

:15:06. > :15:09.When you go out, I personally don't want to stand out.

:15:10. > :15:13.I want to blend in and be the same as everyone else.

:15:14. > :15:17.So if I had to ask for help to get into a building, I would walk past.

:15:18. > :15:19.These people, who all meet at the charity Paul's Place,

:15:20. > :15:25.Why should disabled people be discriminated from going wherever

:15:26. > :15:34.Even going to the toilet can be an issue, with disabled loos often

:15:35. > :15:40.When I go in these toilets, sometimes they smell because they've

:15:41. > :15:48.changed their babies, and it's horrible.

:15:49. > :15:52.And you do not want to be in there really.

:15:53. > :15:55.And I think that's why it should be separate, so it doesn't stink

:15:56. > :15:58.Saying the situation stinks is an understatement,

:15:59. > :16:09.It saddens me that it is 2017 and we constantly battle to make sure that

:16:10. > :16:14.our members get a life that they should have and they deserve.

:16:15. > :16:16.The website Disabled Go is now updating its pages,

:16:17. > :16:18.to show which places are easily accessible in Bristol.

:16:19. > :16:22.But these friends all agree, there's lots that needs to be done.

:16:23. > :16:24.Well, Chloe Ball-Hopkins - who was featured in

:16:25. > :16:26.Lee's report there - went for a night out

:16:27. > :16:29.in Bristol, filmed by BBC Inside Out West cameras.

:16:30. > :16:40.Nice to see you. What was the biggest challenge on your flat out?

:16:41. > :16:45.The shock of it was the taxis, we tried a number and seven we tried,

:16:46. > :16:51.three let me in and two did it with much discussed and one only

:16:52. > :16:56.willingly. They all had the ability because they carried the ramps

:16:57. > :17:00.necessary but it was their will, that was quite shocking. It was,

:17:01. > :17:04.every single one has the spine to say they have wheelchair access and

:17:05. > :17:10.they have the ramps, they just make every excuse not to help you. What

:17:11. > :17:15.excuses? One said the Rab was not working, and I hit my head on the

:17:16. > :17:19.roof as I got in. How did it make you feel? Disappointing, we heard it

:17:20. > :17:23.was the case but I thought it would be fine because everywhere else I

:17:24. > :17:28.have not struggled, London, Manchester, all fine, here it was an

:17:29. > :17:33.issue. Bristol is one of the holiest cities in the country and nobody can

:17:34. > :17:38.do anything about that, lots of old and Victorian buildings, difficult

:17:39. > :17:41.to convert. What about the modern structures, new buildings, they

:17:42. > :17:45.built with some consideration for people who cannot get around so

:17:46. > :17:51.well? They are getting better now, there was an equality act which says

:17:52. > :17:55.new buildings have to stick to it. It depends who is around, sometimes

:17:56. > :17:58.they say they do not have the demand to need it and sometimes it could

:17:59. > :18:03.just be a portable ramp which is what is needed. That happened in a

:18:04. > :18:07.club he went on, they had one and another had one and he was not sure

:18:08. > :18:13.how to put it up. At least they had the wealth. What is your response to

:18:14. > :18:19.the film, a lot have viewed it? It went up on social media and we have

:18:20. > :18:22.had other BBC account sharing it and we have over 1.1 million views and a

:18:23. > :18:31.lot of responses, which is really good to see. 1.1 million. That is

:18:32. > :18:32.good ratings! Thank you! Lovely to see you, as always. You are welcome

:18:33. > :18:37.any time. It's Day Two at Cheltenham,

:18:38. > :18:40.and a huge day for one young jockey. On Ladies' Day, Lizzie Kelly

:18:41. > :18:42.is making her professional On Friday, she'll become only

:18:43. > :18:57.the second woman ever to take Yes, exciting finish in her race

:18:58. > :19:00.today. The father was watching in the winners enclosure behind me on

:19:01. > :19:09.the big screen, pacing around nervously.

:19:10. > :19:12.She ended up fifth, on board Diable de Sivola,

:19:13. > :19:15.The race won by another of the horses from her parents'

:19:16. > :19:19.stables on the edge of Exmoor, so a good day for the family.

:19:20. > :19:21.Lizzie is one of only six women jockeys riding

:19:22. > :19:24.She's already broken records, as the first woman

:19:25. > :19:33.She will be the first woman to compete in a Gold Cup in 33 years.

:19:34. > :19:36.She's been talking to Damian Derrick about succeeding

:19:37. > :19:39.I wanted to dress like a male jockey, you know,

:19:40. > :19:41.with all the right gear, the proper riding out boots

:19:42. > :19:43.and the proper britches and everything.

:19:44. > :19:55.I had to do more to fit in and look the same as all the lads.

:19:56. > :19:57.Lizzie hasn't just fitted in, she's stood out,

:19:58. > :20:02.making her own piece of history along the way.

:20:03. > :20:07.A first ever grade one win for a female rider.

:20:08. > :20:10.That win at the highest level in jump racing 15 months ago

:20:11. > :20:21.The confidence side of that, you know, really was massive.

:20:22. > :20:23.It set in stone sort of where I was going,

:20:24. > :20:30.Being able to say, look I've won a grade one to myself

:20:31. > :20:32.when things are, you know, a bit bleak.

:20:33. > :20:39.Despite her success, opportunities are limited for Lizzie.

:20:40. > :20:41.Many owners and trainers are still reluctant to expose women

:20:42. > :20:57.The majority of her rights come from the family is, not that she is

:20:58. > :21:01.getting family hand-outs. She is not given anything, she writes for us

:21:02. > :21:06.and we run a business and if we do not get success, we will not be

:21:07. > :21:10.here, so it is not a gift, she has earned it. And I feel very proud

:21:11. > :21:15.that somebody can be that dedicated that they make it work. And it is

:21:16. > :21:17.that sheer hard work that Lizzie says is behind her success.

:21:18. > :21:21.And although long since used to being outnumbered

:21:22. > :21:23.in the weighing room, she does understand the significance

:21:24. > :21:27.of being the first female jockey in 33 years to ride in the Gold Cup.

:21:28. > :21:30.I think more than any other girl reference, I've really,

:21:31. > :21:41.Riding in the Gold Cup is massive because it's such an elite race,

:21:42. > :21:43.reserved for the best horses, the best trainers

:21:44. > :21:46.And in such illustrious company, Lizzie has already

:21:47. > :22:03.One to remember for Gloucestershire trainer Ben Pauling.

:22:04. > :22:05.Just three years after setting up his stables

:22:06. > :22:07.in Bourton-on-the-Water - just west of here -

:22:08. > :22:16.he has a first Festival winner, with Willoughby Court.

:22:17. > :22:21.It is everything and more I could have ever hoped for. I have got a

:22:22. > :22:25.fantastic team of owners and we have come from eight horses to 60 in the

:22:26. > :22:28.first three years and hopefully we will have more for next year because

:22:29. > :22:32.this is what people look for. And they want to see their trainers

:22:33. > :22:40.producing at the top and hopefully that shows we can do it. The Sun has

:22:41. > :22:43.set at Prestbury Park. It has been a lovely sun soaked afternoon for

:22:44. > :22:47.Ladies' Day so I am going to say goodbye and leave you with the best

:22:48. > :23:26.of the fashion and flamboyance on show, see you tomorrow.

:23:27. > :23:35.They could have made an effort! Mucking out in the stables in that

:23:36. > :23:39.might not be too easy! No, I would not think they would,

:23:40. > :23:43.no! Shall we catch up on the weather?

:23:44. > :23:44.Yes, Ian is on the roof. When you caught the Sun today, it was so

:23:45. > :23:55.warm. Yes, hello, it turns into a pleasant

:23:56. > :23:58.day with the cloud having taken quite a while to clear out of some

:23:59. > :24:03.parts of Somerset into parts of Dorset. But you caught up. This is

:24:04. > :24:07.the satellite imagery. The forecast for tomorrow, an altogether

:24:08. > :24:13.different experience in terms of cloud amounts. Extensive cloud

:24:14. > :24:16.around during the day. It is looking dry through the morning and into the

:24:17. > :24:21.afternoon courtesy of a weak front from the Northwest, that will

:24:22. > :24:25.introduce the likelihood of patchy and showery outbreaks of light rain.

:24:26. > :24:31.No great amount of rain. A wider look at how things are shaping up.

:24:32. > :24:36.Cloud increases later tonight. That sets us up for the cloudy start

:24:37. > :24:42.tomorrow. We watch out for the cold fronts towards the North West. That

:24:43. > :24:45.splits into a double structure. Both entities fairly weak in nature, so

:24:46. > :24:51.not great amounts of rain associated with it, opening the door by

:24:52. > :24:57.tomorrow evening later to cooler air which is in evidence through into

:24:58. > :25:02.Friday. So for the time being, a lot of clear skies above us. Through the

:25:03. > :25:08.night, with the clear sky, we could get patches of mist and fog forming.

:25:09. > :25:11.Second half of the night, areas of cloud expand, especially from the

:25:12. > :25:16.south-west, so by first site tomorrow, temperatures start at six

:25:17. > :25:22.or seven Celsius and under if their sheet of overcast. That will remain

:25:23. > :25:27.stubborn throughout the day with a few exception perhaps. Through the

:25:28. > :25:31.morning, still dry, and by lunchtime onwards, some rain already to the

:25:32. > :25:34.West of Somerset. That is the first part of that front in the afternoon

:25:35. > :25:40.and that is the second into the evening. Two separate entities and

:25:41. > :25:46.between them, we could get something brighter, including across

:25:47. > :25:48.Gloucestershire. By the tail end of the evening. But fleeting in

:25:49. > :25:54.competition with the amount of cloud. Temperatures today, safely

:25:55. > :26:00.towards the mid-teens. Tomorrow, down a bit to about 11 Celsius

:26:01. > :26:03.across many districts. Towards Friday, noticeably cooler, dry and

:26:04. > :26:09.bright start first part of the morning. Cloud increases and towards

:26:10. > :26:13.the West and North West, there is a sequence of waves on the front which

:26:14. > :26:17.introduces rain, we suspect, by about mid-afternoon. The timing of

:26:18. > :26:19.that critical at Cheltenham, and we will give you another update on that

:26:20. > :26:28.tomorrow. And he very much. It was certainly

:26:29. > :26:31.beautiful. We have to leave you. Chloe, we filmed you on your night

:26:32. > :26:37.out and that was the first you had had, you have another planned? It is

:26:38. > :26:41.my friend's 21st this Saturday, set out on Saturday night to try again.

:26:42. > :26:43.Lovely, have a nice night. Thank you for joining us, is to you again

:26:44. > :26:45.tomorrow, goodbye!