:00:00. > :00:10.Welcome to South East Today, I'm Natalie Graham. And I'm Rob Smith.
:00:10. > :00:13.Tonight's top stories: No go — the Remembrance Day parade which might
:00:13. > :00:18.be cancelled because of a row between the police and the
:00:18. > :00:22.organisers. Help us get to England — the Syrian
:00:22. > :00:27.refugees in Calais demanding asylum from the British authorities.
:00:27. > :00:31.Also in tonight's programme: We need a new runway in the South East —
:00:31. > :00:33.that's the verdict of a Government commission. But where will it
:00:33. > :00:37.built? Raising the stories of the dead —
:00:37. > :00:43.the code that unlocks the secrets buried in a graveyard.
:00:43. > :00:45.And hold on tight — we're going for a drive round the best roundabout in
:00:45. > :00:59.the country. Good evening. A major Remembrance
:00:59. > :01:03.Day parade in Kent may be cancelled because of a row between the
:01:03. > :01:06.organisers and the police. 500 people, including war veterans,
:01:06. > :01:12.scouts and guides, take part in the march in Chatham on November 11th
:01:12. > :01:15.every year. But with one month to go, Kent Police say they can't
:01:15. > :01:18.provide enough officers to make the route safe. They've told the
:01:18. > :01:22.organisers to find an alternative route — but they say they can't do
:01:22. > :01:28.that at such short notice. Let's go to Chatham now and our reporter,
:01:28. > :01:39.Ellie Price. Why can't the parade be moved, Ellie? Natalie, organisers
:01:39. > :01:44.say the 500 or so people who use the parade, I've used this route for
:01:44. > :01:48.many years. Reorganising it at this stage would be too late for the
:01:48. > :01:53.Scouts, veterans and older people who find it difficult to get around,
:01:53. > :01:59.they say. They say it is too much to ask.
:01:59. > :02:02.A parade to remember those who died for their country. Organisers say
:02:02. > :02:07.they have followed the same route for more than a decade. Paul
:02:07. > :02:12.Harriott is a bit —— veteran of the Korean War. I think it would be a
:02:12. > :02:18.complete and utter disgrace and a stain on the Medway towns that they
:02:18. > :02:23.could not per —— police a parade for people still serving in the forces,
:02:23. > :02:29.and wish to pay respects to the war dead. Organisers say they only
:02:29. > :02:34.became aware of the police position at the weekend. With less than five
:02:34. > :02:39.weeks remaining, they say it is not enough time to change the route. I
:02:39. > :02:49.am stuck between a rock and a hard place. They have done it for many
:02:49. > :02:54.years. We have no alternative route. Everybody is geared up for the
:02:54. > :02:58.route. Re—enactment groups. If police withdraw, we would have no
:02:58. > :03:08.option but to cancel the parade. Organisers say it has been the same
:03:08. > :03:10.for 15 years. Police say they're not trying to change the route
:03:10. > :03:15.simply suggesting some small alterations. If we can do it as we
:03:15. > :03:24.are proposing, it would save us having to put —— having to put
:03:24. > :03:33.additional officers on the route. We can put the officers to other work.
:03:33. > :03:37.Police say they are committed to supporting such events. The
:03:37. > :03:42.organisers of this one say that is not enough. Kent police say they are
:03:42. > :03:47.still willing to negotiate and want the parade to go ahead. Bearing in
:03:47. > :03:52.mind next year is the Centenary of World War I, one wonders whether
:03:52. > :03:59.this issue will come up again. We want to know what you think. Next
:03:59. > :04:02.year is the 100th anniversary of the First World War — should the police
:04:02. > :04:06.prioritise resources to commemorate the fallen in all the wars? Or
:04:06. > :04:08.should the police be able to re—route or reduce the size
:04:08. > :04:09.should the police be able to Remembrance Day parades to reduce
:04:09. > :04:13.costs? Email us or join the on Facebook.
:04:13. > :04:17.More runways are needed in the south—east to keep up the demand for
:04:17. > :04:21.a trouble, according to the man appointed by the Government to look
:04:21. > :04:25.at airport expansion. Sir Howard Davies said demand for air travel
:04:25. > :04:30.will exceed current capacity, although he has not said where any
:04:30. > :04:36.new runways should be. Mark Norman reports. We know the arguments
:04:36. > :04:39.already. More of us want to fly but how do we deal with more aeroplanes
:04:39. > :04:46.in the skies? A second runway at Gatwick, another at Heathrow or one
:04:46. > :04:53.in the Thames Estuary? The man who has the job to decide says yes, we
:04:53. > :04:59.do need more runways. Our assessment is that we will not be able to
:04:59. > :05:02.provide the number of take—off and landing slots that you need without
:05:02. > :05:08.some additional tarmac on the ground. The Airports Commission will
:05:08. > :05:12.publish a short list of options in December before making a final
:05:12. > :05:16.decision after the next general election. One likely candidate for
:05:16. > :05:26.the short list is a second runway at Gatwick. It has been a well argued
:05:26. > :05:32.submission. It depends on an assumption about how the market will
:05:32. > :05:38.develop. We have detested that is a plausible way. We think Gatwick will
:05:38. > :05:42.be one of the airports on the short list. That is good news. We will go
:05:42. > :05:49.on arguing the contrary and we think the politicians in 2016 may well
:05:49. > :05:53.agree. The issue that barely got a mention today was the idea of the
:05:53. > :06:01.new international airport on the River Thames. The fact that I have
:06:01. > :06:06.not talked about the estuary is not significant. I was trying to talk
:06:06. > :06:16.about the overall temperature in terms of whether we need demand. Any
:06:16. > :06:23.extra warm —— runways would be hugely significant for the people.
:06:23. > :06:26.That is an issue that Sir Howard takes seriously. But for now we will
:06:26. > :06:35.all have to wait until his short list.
:06:35. > :06:39.Mark is still in central London. Sir Howard Davies clearly has come to a
:06:39. > :06:45.decision that we need at least one more runway but he has yet to decide
:06:46. > :06:50.where it should go? No. That is right. He would not be drawn on the
:06:50. > :06:55.short list. It is interesting how worried he is about the issue of
:06:55. > :06:59.blight. Let's say he puts Gatwick and the Thames Estuary on the short
:06:59. > :07:10.list. He knows people 's lives will be blighted. This in December, those
:07:10. > :07:19.not on the short list can get on with the rest of their lives.
:07:19. > :07:21.In a moment, relief for commuters. The Mayor of London says season
:07:21. > :07:35.tickets should be tax—free. They Kent woman who lied about being
:07:35. > :07:43.raped has been given a suspended prison sentence and ordered to do
:07:43. > :07:46.200 hours community service for wasting police time. Charmaine
:07:46. > :07:50.Ripley claims she was raped in a park after leaving a nightclub in
:07:51. > :07:58.Margate. Some campaigners felt police should not have prosecuted.
:07:58. > :08:02.Time and again we see women coming to us. They are being investigated
:08:02. > :08:06.when they have reported rape. The evidence has not been collected by
:08:06. > :08:12.the police. This is one of many failings in the criminal justice
:08:12. > :08:14.system, the fact they are going after the wrong people, prioritising
:08:14. > :08:16.the wrong things. A large group of Syrian refugees are
:08:16. > :08:21.demonstrating in Calais, demanding that the British Home Office meet
:08:21. > :08:25.with them. In a statement they say that that believe they have "the
:08:25. > :08:28.right to claim asylum in England". But they say it's wrong that, having
:08:28. > :08:34.reached Northern France, they have found there is "no legal way to
:08:34. > :08:43.cross" to Britain. Stranded in Calais, they claim, and
:08:43. > :08:47.desperate. 55 refugees from Syria, some elderly, one as young as three.
:08:47. > :08:56.We want to go to England because we have family and friends there. We
:08:56. > :09:01.left Syria to make a new future. No future in Syria. Everything is
:09:01. > :09:04.finished. They want to reach Kent because of violence at home and,
:09:04. > :09:10.they claim, eviction from shelters and damage to their possessions in
:09:10. > :09:15.France. The war in Syria has brought them to the French coast. They have
:09:15. > :09:30.now issued a formal statement on a website that supports migrants.
:09:30. > :09:37.That brought this response this evening from an MP in Kent. We
:09:37. > :09:43.should control our own borders in this country and we should decide
:09:43. > :09:47.who come in. While people are very sympathetic to what is happening in
:09:47. > :09:53.Syria, I do think France needs to take responsibility for people who
:09:53. > :10:01.are currently in France. Tonight, it seems there is stalemate.
:10:02. > :10:06.The Government's ministerial reshuffle has seen some of the
:10:06. > :10:12.south—east's MPs get new jobs. Hugh Robertson moves to the foreign
:10:12. > :10:18.office. Helen Grant will take over his sports role. Norman Baker, the
:10:18. > :10:20.MP for Lewis, has left the Department for Transport to become
:10:20. > :10:26.Minister of State of the Home Office. And Greg Clark becomes the
:10:26. > :10:31.chief whip of the Tories. Victims of domestic violence in Kent are not
:10:31. > :10:36.getting the support they need, according to a lawyer for victims of
:10:36. > :10:39.abuse. Donna Payne has criticised the policy which allows front line
:10:39. > :10:42.police to support some victims instead of specialist officers. The
:10:42. > :10:58.police insist the service they offer has never been better.
:10:58. > :11:07.South East commuters could be offered a reduction on their season
:11:07. > :11:10.tickets. South East commuters could be offered a tax break on their
:11:10. > :11:13.season tickets, under plans being proposed by the London Mayor, Boris
:11:13. > :11:15.Johnson. He's believed to be in talks with Chancellor George
:11:15. > :11:19.Osborne, over allowing annual tickets to be paid for from pre—tax
:11:19. > :11:23.income. Paul Siegert has been following the story and he joins us
:11:23. > :11:25.live from outside Brighton train station. This has gone down well
:11:25. > :11:27.with commuters in Brighton. Season tickets from parts of Kent
:11:27. > :11:28.and Sussex cost well over £3000. Boris Johnson's plans have gone down
:11:28. > :11:32.well with commuters. I think great idea. They are far too
:11:32. > :11:37.expensive as it is. The service is not acceptable for the amount it
:11:38. > :11:42.costs. A subsidy would be great. The public is paying for it anyway and
:11:42. > :11:47.it is public transport. I figured as a good idea. The Government has got
:11:47. > :11:49.money. What would allow season tickets to be paid for by pre—tax
:11:49. > :12:20.income? A season ticket... Fuss critics say the taxes of
:12:20. > :12:25.non—commuters should not be used to subsidise train fares. —— but
:12:25. > :12:32.critics. The proposal has support elsewhere. Having cheaper fares for
:12:32. > :12:35.people, with the amount of people in part—time employment and
:12:35. > :12:39.underemployed, a little bit of benefit for the commuter will be of
:12:39. > :12:43.benefit to everyone. Whether the plans would get support from George
:12:43. > :12:49.Osborne would seem likely. —— unlikely. Then again, with Boris you
:12:49. > :12:54.never know. We have had a statement from the Chancellor's offers. It
:12:54. > :12:59.said that all taxes are kept under review. However, any additional
:12:59. > :13:03.support for the cost of transport needs to be considered carefully, as
:13:03. > :13:06.tax reliefs can come at a considerable cost which would have
:13:06. > :13:10.to be made up by the taxpayers in general. In a nutshell, thanks, but
:13:10. > :13:13.no thanks, Boris. Our top story tonight. A major
:13:13. > :13:16.Remembrance Day parade in Kent may be cancelled because of a row
:13:16. > :13:28.between the organisers and the police. This
:13:28. > :13:34.Also in tonight's programme, making steam dreams come true — the railway
:13:34. > :13:44.offering to teach you how to drive a train.
:13:44. > :13:48.It has been a mild and dry start to the weed but it will not be staying
:13:48. > :13:58.that way. Join me later. —— to the week.
:13:58. > :14:05.It already seems that all aspects of life have been affected by the
:14:05. > :14:08.digital revolution. Well, a business in Tonbridge is now offering to
:14:08. > :14:12.engrave special codes on gravestones and memorials. The idea is that you
:14:12. > :14:14.scan a bar — known as a quick release code — with your mobile
:14:14. > :14:18.phone to access additional information about the person's life.
:14:18. > :14:22.Quick Release — or QR Codes — were first designed by the motor industry
:14:22. > :14:25.in Japan in the 1990s. They are a type of bar code consisting of
:14:25. > :14:29.square dots on a white background that can be read by a smartphone.
:14:29. > :14:32.Users take a picture of the code with their phone, which links to
:14:32. > :14:34.websites or other information. Ian Palmer has been to seen how it
:14:34. > :14:37.works. You've seen them in magazines,
:14:38. > :14:40.you've seen them in shops, now QR Codes can be seen on memorial
:14:40. > :14:44.benches. This The bench is dedicated to Federick and Violet Dawes. A lot
:14:44. > :14:54.of families don't know about their own heritage or their forebears.
:14:54. > :15:02.That is a great shame. His greatest achievement was he left school at 12
:15:02. > :15:11.and a half but he educated himself later on in years. And that is how
:15:11. > :15:17.he became brilliant at what he did. What else is revealed by scanning
:15:17. > :15:21.the cold? —— code. Well, the couple got married in 1923 at Southover
:15:21. > :15:24.Church in Lewes. Mr Dawes is commemorated on a council members'
:15:24. > :15:27.board at Tonbridge Castle. And Mrs Dawes used to take tea to the troops
:15:27. > :15:30.during the Second World War, when their train stopped at Tonbridge.
:15:30. > :15:35.The technology has countless potential uses. The aim in the
:15:35. > :15:47.future is to etch bar codes onto memorial stones. The code can be cut
:15:47. > :15:52.by hand or it can be placed using a Sound Blaster. —— sand blaster. Jean
:15:52. > :15:55.Fuller is extremely proud of her parents' achievements. The original
:15:55. > :15:58.bench in their honour was replaced five years ago. Today's technology
:15:58. > :16:00.will ensure the memory Federick and Violet Dawes will outlive this seat
:16:00. > :16:18.and the ones after it. It's an expensive business keeping a
:16:18. > :16:23.steam railway going, so you have to be imaginative when it comes to
:16:23. > :16:26.raising funds. That's why volunteers with the Kent and East Sussex
:16:26. > :16:33.Railway are offering the ultimate in childhood wish fulfilment — courses
:16:33. > :16:42.for wannabe steam train drivers. Piers Hopkirk has been on the
:16:42. > :16:52.footplate to find out more. So begins the journey back to
:16:53. > :16:57.childhood. It is everything. It is the noise, the smell, the sounds. It
:16:57. > :17:03.is just great. It is like being taken back 30 or 40 years. For the
:17:03. > :17:10.learner driver —— drivers, this is dream fulfilment writ large. Mike
:17:10. > :17:16.Norris is a former United Nations project director. But today at the
:17:16. > :17:22.controls of a century old steam train pulling 100 tonnes, he is
:17:22. > :17:26.facing a different kind of pressure. In a word, terrifying! It is
:17:26. > :17:30.fantastic you have got this big engine making a lot of noise, very
:17:30. > :17:35.hard, very noisy, and you are driving it. You have a driving
:17:35. > :17:41.instructor at the back. But it is a boyhood dream come true. That is
:17:41. > :17:49.what it is. Eddie Goldfinch is a retired nuclear physicist. Today he
:17:49. > :17:52.is making steam on a smaller scale. It gives you a feeling of power
:17:52. > :17:59.somehow. It is such a lovely feeling. I have always loved the
:17:59. > :18:04.smell and the sound of steam engines since I was a kid. Even for the
:18:04. > :18:10.hands, the thrill is still as new as it ever was. I love machinery. This
:18:10. > :18:14.thing is alive. If you are driving an engine up a steep bank, it makes
:18:14. > :18:20.the hairs on the back of your neck stand up. It is rather special. That
:18:20. > :18:25.old saying has never been truer than theirs. The only difference between
:18:25. > :18:33.the men and the boys is the size of their toys. The Kent and East Sussex
:18:33. > :18:37.Railway costs a lot of money each year to run. Money is not always
:18:37. > :18:42.easy to find. With men like this prepared to pay hundreds of pounds
:18:42. > :18:51.for the experience, journeys back in time helping to secure its future.
:18:51. > :18:55.—— her helping. He had a good day as well. I think he had. I have had a
:18:55. > :18:58.good day as well. To most of us, a roundabout is merely a functional
:18:58. > :19:02.piece of road furniture — something that allows the traffic to continue
:19:02. > :19:06.to flow freely at a busy junction. But there are those who appreciate
:19:06. > :19:10.that there is much more to them than that. And the Kent village of Otford
:19:10. > :19:12.has been named as this year's winner of the UK's roundabout of the year.
:19:12. > :19:33.Yes, really. your house unless you know it to be
:19:33. > :19:45.useful believe it to be beautiful. I think he would have this place. This
:19:45. > :19:47.beautiful place. This... Roundabout. According to the UK Roundabout
:19:47. > :19:53.Appeciation Society — yes, they really do exist — a good roundabout
:19:53. > :19:56.is an oasis in a sea of tarmac. But what lifts the merely functional
:19:56. > :20:07.traffic gyratory into something a bit more special? The beauty of a
:20:07. > :20:10.roundabout is there so expressive. You can put anything on a
:20:10. > :20:18.roundabout. I've seen fountains, statues, planes, boats, trains,
:20:18. > :20:21.giant snails and indeed duck ponds. That is the beauty of it. Of course,
:20:21. > :20:31.not everyone appreciates them in quite the same way. Time for the
:20:31. > :20:43.missing words round. But people in Otford at least are pleased. Oh,
:20:44. > :20:48.yes. It is always the main feature. It is a lovely roundabout. A pretty
:20:48. > :21:00.roundabout. It is a lovely village to live in. It is great. Fantastic.
:21:00. > :21:04.It is recorded that people have been metering and gathering around the
:21:04. > :21:10.pond here since Anglo—Saxon times. —— meeting. This is the only listed
:21:10. > :21:17.pond in the country. In that thousand years or more of history,
:21:17. > :21:31.this is the proudest moment, the roundabout of the year.
:21:31. > :21:38.It is a thing of beauty, isn't it? I think we should make sure you get
:21:38. > :21:42.out more. I mean it in a nice way! There was a win a draw and a defeat
:21:42. > :21:46.for the South East's leading sides over the weekend. The three games
:21:46. > :21:48.contained nine goals, three penalties, two red cards and a
:21:48. > :21:55.welcome clean sheet. Neil Bell rounds up all the action.
:21:55. > :21:59.Brighton may be in the middle of an injury crisis but their much
:21:59. > :22:05.anticipated clash with Nottingham Forest prompted a carnival
:22:05. > :22:07.atmosphere, especially among some of the more junior fans. The game
:22:07. > :22:14.struggled to come to life. Half an hour in, Andrew Cross headed
:22:14. > :22:17.Brighton in front. Forest were transformed after the break.
:22:17. > :22:23.Lansbury levelled things. Shortly after, Henderson gave the visitors
:22:23. > :22:29.the advantage. With time running out, Matthew Upson's high risk
:22:29. > :22:38.challenge led to a penalty which Lansbury dispatched. We had a
:22:38. > :22:45.handicap in that we have seven or eight players injured. For most of
:22:45. > :22:52.the game, we played face to face against one of the best teams of the
:22:52. > :22:56.competition. Charlton's game against Blackpool was a more tepid affair.
:22:56. > :23:01.Charlton did manage their first clean sheet of the season. The most
:23:01. > :23:05.eventful start of the weekend saw Gillingham awarded an early penalty
:23:05. > :23:11.which Cadwell smashed home. Two minutes later it happened again.
:23:11. > :23:17.This time, there was a red card and the penalty went into the other
:23:17. > :23:23.corner. Within a few minutes, Bamford headed home and then
:23:23. > :23:27.finished in style. But it was Gillingham took the points. Danny
:23:27. > :23:34.Holland giving them their first home win since April.
:23:34. > :23:41.Time for the weather. Another lovely sunny day. It is not going to last.
:23:41. > :23:45.It is going to be a week of two halves. We start off with
:23:45. > :23:48.temperatures above average for the time of the year. By the end of the
:23:48. > :23:53.week, temperatures dropping by five degrees. Northerly winds and much
:23:53. > :23:58.cooler air. We had some sunshine this morning. By the afternoon, more
:23:58. > :24:04.in the way of cloud cover. Temperatures holding up for the time
:24:04. > :24:09.of the year. Light winds. A pleasant feeling day. Through tonight, cloud
:24:09. > :24:18.and clearer skies. You may see some patchy rain or drizzle. Also some
:24:18. > :24:28.mist and fog. Temperatures at 14 or 15 degrees. As we start tomorrow,
:24:28. > :24:31.any fog and mist clears quickly. More cloud in the morning. The
:24:31. > :24:34.chance of some patchy rain or drizzle. It brightens up by
:24:34. > :24:44.afternoon. Similar temperatures to today. More of the same tomorrow
:24:44. > :24:50.night. We will stay dry. Temperatures holding up in towns and
:24:50. > :24:56.cities into double figures. Then a shift as we move into Wednesday. And
:24:56. > :24:57.the weather front. Rain around in the morning. Drier by the afternoon.
:24:57. > :25:04.We start to see the winds to a northerly direction.
:25:04. > :25:14.Temperatures around 15 or 16 degrees. Overnight on Thursday all
:25:14. > :25:19.others seeing much... It will be a cool start to the day on Thursday.
:25:19. > :25:25.The chance of the wind and showers picking up as well. Into Friday,
:25:25. > :25:30.heavy rain, the risk of coastal gales. Temperatures 11 or 12
:25:30. > :25:36.degrees. Pleasant for the next couple of days. Make the most of it.
:25:36. > :25:40.A quick recap of the top stories. 65 Syrian migrants our protest in
:25:40. > :25:43.Calais, demanding to meet somebody from the Home Office in the UK. They
:25:43. > :25:44.say they have a right to seek asylum in