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:00:07. > :00:09.Welcome to South East Today, I'm Natalie Graham.

:00:10. > :00:13.Tonight's top stories: A deeply troubling case -

:00:14. > :00:16.a Government apology to the family of a Kent murder victim

:00:17. > :00:21.for the substandard service they received.

:00:22. > :00:30.Celebrating a remarkable recovery from cancer -

:00:31. > :00:34.the seven-year-old boy who was given a 10% chance of survival.

:00:35. > :00:42.He wouldn't be here today, but for the wonderful doctors and nurses at

:00:43. > :00:47.the Royal Marsden Hospital. Also tonight, I will be live in Chatham

:00:48. > :00:50.as we start our tour around the coast of the south-east, debating

:00:51. > :00:55.the Bishop issues facing the electorate. The NHS is under more

:00:56. > :01:00.pressure with wait willing times, more cancelled operations and our

:01:01. > :01:05.A are struggling to home. We'll be talking live with four political

:01:06. > :01:18.hopefuls, aiming to take their policies to Westminster next month.

:01:19. > :01:36.Blue Tobin is an seven-year-old boy from East Kent who's being hailed

:01:37. > :01:40.When he was two, he was diagnosed with cancer.

:01:41. > :01:42.His family were told the NHS could only offer a very risky,

:01:43. > :01:44.pioneering treatment and there was only a 10%

:01:45. > :01:48.Today, he was declared free of the disease,

:01:49. > :01:52.It's the sound that says there's no cancer inside his body.

:01:53. > :01:55.Today seven-year-old Blue Tobin was given the all-clear.

:01:56. > :01:56.Without the Royal Marsden, without his donor, Andreas,

:01:57. > :02:00.without the people that raised money for research into these drugs

:02:01. > :02:02.which saved my son's life, he wouldn't be here today.

:02:03. > :02:06.But thanks to the wonderful doctors and nurses...

:02:07. > :02:17.Blue's mother thanks one of the many medics who helped

:02:18. > :02:20.For her it had been a tortuous journey.

:02:21. > :02:22.Blue was diagnosed with an aggressive cancer

:02:23. > :02:24.called myeloid leukaemia when he was two years' old.

:02:25. > :02:31.The family was told nothing more could be done.

:02:32. > :02:33.Doctors suggested using two drugs trials in adult cancer,

:02:34. > :02:38.but never used in a child of Blue's age.

:02:39. > :02:41.There was only a 10 to 15% chance the drugs would lead to remission.

:02:42. > :02:49.Blue was well enough to receive a bone marrow transplant.

:02:50. > :03:03.I cannot remember in 25 years of haematology,

:03:04. > :03:06.many patients having such a bad leukaemia, who we managed

:03:07. > :03:10.So many people to thank but how do you thank anybody

:03:11. > :03:38.All but one of our hospital trusts in the South East have failed

:03:39. > :03:41.to meet the Government's target of seeing 95% of patients

:03:42. > :03:45.The latest NHS statistics, published today, are the last to be released

:03:46. > :03:48.Health is one of the most significant issues for voters.

:03:49. > :03:50.So in the first of our special election broadcasts,

:03:51. > :03:53.in which we tour the southeast's coastline, we're discussing the NHS.

:03:54. > :03:54.Let's cross to Rob who is in the Medway towns.

:03:55. > :04:00.Yes, I am, I'm in Chatham on the River Medway. I have been on the

:04:01. > :04:04.water today. We'll test the political waters in a very literal

:04:05. > :04:09.sense. This is the boat I have been on. There are three constituencies

:04:10. > :04:16.in the Medway towns, each in their own way bellwethers for which way

:04:17. > :04:22.people nationally are likely to vote.

:04:23. > :04:26.For these Medway towns, just after the war, Stroud, Rochesterer,

:04:27. > :04:31.Gillingham, Rainham, they voted Labour. In Thatcher years they voted

:04:32. > :04:35.Tory,nd Tony Blair they went red again. Whoever wins here, has a good

:04:36. > :04:40.chance of forming the Government. I've come off the boat. Let's go

:04:41. > :04:44.into Chatham and have a chat with people about what they think the big

:04:45. > :04:49.issues are? We need to get the Brexit vote done and dusted and know

:04:50. > :04:52.where we are. At the moment we don't know. I shouldn't say this. The

:04:53. > :04:54.country is giving far too much away to other countries instead of

:04:55. > :04:59.looking after ourselves. I think there needs to be a focus on the

:05:00. > :05:02.NHS. Fewer and fewer GPs and long waiting lists for operations. I

:05:03. > :05:08.think they should do more for mental hale. I have suffered a bit since I

:05:09. > :05:13.was about six years' old and trying to get help is really hard. When you

:05:14. > :05:18.go to the hospital, like, you wait three hours, four hours, you know, I

:05:19. > :05:22.think that's, you know, that's too much. Quite honestly, you need my

:05:23. > :05:27.husband who's gone to the car, because whatever he thinks, I go

:05:28. > :05:31.along with. What about the NHS, is it important to you? Absolutely. I

:05:32. > :05:38.paid into it all my life. I want to make sure when I get older, they are

:05:39. > :05:42.going it look after me, you know. Well, the NHS is clearly something

:05:43. > :05:49.that is high in people's thoughts when I found out up at the dockside

:05:50. > :05:53.retail centre in chat home. Mark is with me. Another set of figures have

:05:54. > :05:57.been published today to show how much pressure the NHS is under It is

:05:58. > :06:01.startling because it has been a mild winter so they vowed have had a good

:06:02. > :06:04.time to be honest. It is about resource verses demand. Do they have

:06:05. > :06:09.the resources they need, maybe money or staff. Set that against the

:06:10. > :06:14.rising demand, we have seen a huge rise, it'll only get worse in the

:06:15. > :06:18.next five, ten, 20 years, when it goes wrong, well we have seen what

:06:19. > :06:22.happens when it goes wrong more often than not but we have seen

:06:23. > :06:28.outstanding care from the NHS staff when under pressure. I have taken a

:06:29. > :06:32.road trip, coast to coast, Kent to Sussex, started off in the Medway

:06:33. > :06:37.towns, to see the challenges facing the health service.

:06:38. > :06:40.So the first stop will be the Medway Maritime Hospital.

:06:41. > :06:43.A few years ago labelled one of the worst hospitals in the country.

:06:44. > :06:44.Patients were dying unnecessarily, thousands were being

:06:45. > :06:47.They've come a long way in the last 18 months.

:06:48. > :06:51.A few weeks ago, I watched as the Chief Executive told her staff...

:06:52. > :06:54.Medway NHS Foundation Trust is now taken out of special measures.

:06:55. > :06:58.But just as hospitals can both struggle with the pressures

:06:59. > :07:01.and offer great care from dedicated staff, patients also see

:07:02. > :07:11.It's always really striking that people can almost hold two

:07:12. > :07:17.So, people can understand that there's lots of stress

:07:18. > :07:20.in the system, that lots of bits don't work as they should,

:07:21. > :07:22.but then can also feel very angry and frustrated that,

:07:23. > :07:24.for them, that's meant I can't get the service that

:07:25. > :07:39.And nowhere is that seen more clearly than in A

:07:40. > :07:41.Across the country, departments have seen attendances up

:07:42. > :07:44.30% in the last decade and every A is struggling to employ enough

:07:45. > :07:45.staff, manage demand and hit Government targets.

:07:46. > :07:47.Emergency departments are supposed to see, treat,

:07:48. > :07:49.admit or discharge patients within four hours.

:07:50. > :07:52.Last winter not one of our hospitals in Kent,

:07:53. > :07:59.In East Kent, 37% of patients had to wait more than four hours,

:08:00. > :08:02.one of the worst records in the country.

:08:03. > :08:05.But the problems are not unique to one hospital or one

:08:06. > :08:11.I'm crossing the border from Kent and Medway

:08:12. > :08:14.into Sussex and to my right, the hospital in Redhill.

:08:15. > :08:17.Last winter it had one of the highest numbers of what used

:08:18. > :08:24.to be called black alerts, that threatened patients' safety.

:08:25. > :08:27.The hospitals in Eastbourne and Hastings weren't far behind.

:08:28. > :08:30.But we are on our way to Brighton - a trust recently put into special

:08:31. > :08:32.measures but also one where they're spending almost ?500 million

:08:33. > :08:39.This is the Royal Sussex County Hospital and you can see

:08:40. > :08:41.the money being spent here on the redevelopment.

:08:42. > :08:46.Bedblocking, or what they now call "delayed discharges",

:08:47. > :08:48.are a huge issue both here and indeed across the country.

:08:49. > :08:53.In January 2017, patients spent almost 200,000 days

:08:54. > :08:56.stuck in a hospital bed when they didn't have to.

:08:57. > :09:00.The NHS say that increases the cost of treatment

:09:01. > :09:06.Here in Brighton, they spent almost 2,600 days stuck in a hospital bed.

:09:07. > :09:11.The highest rate of any hospital in the south-east.

:09:12. > :09:13.I've looked at A and delayed discharges.

:09:14. > :09:20.There is not one dysfunctional part of the system, where if you put it

:09:21. > :09:22.right suddenly everything is going to fall into place.

:09:23. > :09:25.What we need are real steps towards integration

:09:26. > :09:26.and that means when services are being commissioned,

:09:27. > :09:29.When services are being provided, they are being provided

:09:30. > :09:33.Integrated care, a phrase we are going to hear

:09:34. > :09:43.Integration is a term that kind of covers a whole range of things

:09:44. > :09:47.and we do need to join those up but to develop those kinds

:09:48. > :09:49.of services whilst maintaining a hospital service will require

:09:50. > :09:52.additional resources and that takes time.

:09:53. > :09:55.We are changing both organisations and cultures.

:09:56. > :09:57.It's not a case that you can simply switch services

:09:58. > :10:05.So I've ended up on Brighton Beach and like the tide the problems

:10:06. > :10:09.I haven't even mentioned the problems getting a GP appointment,

:10:10. > :10:10.cancer waiting times, not enough midwives,

:10:11. > :10:15.What about the problems with the Ambulance Service

:10:16. > :10:17.or what about the five year forward view.

:10:18. > :10:23.There's mental health services and not enough...

:10:24. > :10:32.An awful lot of issues there we could go into. It is worth bearing

:10:33. > :10:36.in mind how enormous the NHS is. It employs 1.7 million in total. The

:10:37. > :10:41.country spends ?110 billion a year and the number of operations carried

:10:42. > :10:45.out are 40% more per year than they were in 2005 but clearly the strains

:10:46. > :10:48.are starting to show. Lots of additions in waiting times, people

:10:49. > :10:53.not getting the operations they need necessarily when they want to have

:10:54. > :10:56.them. What are we going to do about it? I have three people who want to

:10:57. > :11:02.represent their constituents in the next parliamentary round in the next

:11:03. > :11:11.generation. I'm joined by Helen Whately, for the Conservatives. And

:11:12. > :11:15.Christine Baylis and Emmanuel Feyisetan representing Ukip and I

:11:16. > :11:18.should say we wanted to have Stephen Lloyd from the Liberal Democrats but

:11:19. > :11:22.he is stuck in traffic. Helen Whately, what are you going to do

:11:23. > :11:25.about it? I would say the NHS Sunday a great deal of pressure at the

:11:26. > :11:28.moment, as you have mentioned. That's absolutely true but we also

:11:29. > :11:31.shouldn't just look at the problems we should look at what is working.

:11:32. > :11:34.Before I was a Member of Parliament I worked in health care, spent lots

:11:35. > :11:38.of times in hospitals and the doctors would say this to me -

:11:39. > :11:48.please don't focus on where it is difficult, A but lots of things

:11:49. > :11:51.are going well. Here in Chatham... We know those good things and it is

:11:52. > :11:56.coming out of special measures but what are you going to do to improve

:11:57. > :11:59.things? Your Government has been in power forself years, more of the

:12:00. > :12:05.same? Medway is doing well, come out of special measures, one of the

:12:06. > :12:10.hospitals on the other side in my constituency, East Kent, has come

:12:11. > :12:12.out of special measures, people are surviving cancers and other serious

:12:13. > :12:16.diseases they wouldn't have before? How are you going to improve things

:12:17. > :12:20.sn.s we need to keep on improving T some that of is money, my Government

:12:21. > :12:23.has been putting in an extra ?10 billion into the NHS annually.

:12:24. > :12:28.That's a significant increase inness iffing and also the NHS is working

:12:29. > :12:31.off its own bottom-up plans on how to improve, that means bringing

:12:32. > :12:36.health care and social care together. Christine, how are Labour

:12:37. > :12:41.trying to improve the situation? Well, Labour have got a variety of

:12:42. > :12:45.ideas. They will be set out in the manifesto which is being published

:12:46. > :12:52.on Tuesday of next week. But one of the issues that really affects my

:12:53. > :12:55.residents in Bexhill and Battle is the join-up between social care and

:12:56. > :12:59.the health service and that is really, really important, that we

:13:00. > :13:03.make sure that there is a seamless service... More of an integrated

:13:04. > :13:06.thought process. More of that. But your party wants to see

:13:07. > :13:11.significantly more money being put into the NHS, doesn't it? Where will

:13:12. > :13:15.it come from? ? As I say, you will see that all in the manifesto, John

:13:16. > :13:20.McDonnell has committed to costing all the policies that will be in

:13:21. > :13:24.there and I know that there will be policies on the NHS and also saying

:13:25. > :13:28.how the money will be raised. We know that, for example, there will

:13:29. > :13:33.be increases in corporation tax and taxation for the very, very top

:13:34. > :13:38.earners. So it will be more taxation in order to spend more on the NHS

:13:39. > :13:43.under a Labour Government. But not from ordinary working people. It

:13:44. > :13:49.will be from the few. Ukip, how would Ukip sort out the NHS

:13:50. > :13:55.situation? Well, Ukip is going to do a lot. Ukip the NHS, is something we

:13:56. > :14:03.know, it is the pride of the nation and Ukip hopes to keep it that way.

:14:04. > :14:07.Ukip is putting in additional 3,000 - ?3 billion every year into getting

:14:08. > :14:14.more staff... Where is the money coming from, from coming out of the

:14:15. > :14:17.evident U? From coming out of the EU eventually but there is a measure

:14:18. > :14:21.before we come out of the EU and it is going to be through health

:14:22. > :14:25.insurance and that will be, you know, health insurance for people

:14:26. > :14:29.coming into the country. The a ban on health tourism. People coming

:14:30. > :14:33.into the UK and using the NHS? Yes, people coming in and using the NHS.

:14:34. > :14:37.There will be a stop on that and people will be required to have

:14:38. > :14:43.health insurance which will provide more care and give the NHS a better

:14:44. > :14:48.service for the people. So this is what Ukip is wanting to do. And this

:14:49. > :14:52.is essentially what the NHS needs in order to get... It would be nice if

:14:53. > :14:57.we could have a whole 25 minutes to go into this in more depth. It is

:14:58. > :15:01.almost impossible to get across all the aspects in T thank you for being

:15:02. > :15:04.with us and outlining some of the policies your parties will be

:15:05. > :15:07.putting forward given the opportunity. You can see a great

:15:08. > :15:09.deal more about the position that all the main parties will be doing

:15:10. > :15:12.on the BBC's website. There's more information

:15:13. > :15:14.about the position of all the main parties on this issue on the BBC

:15:15. > :15:16.Website bbc.co.uk/election. We'll be back later

:15:17. > :15:20.with more from Chatham. The family of a woman

:15:21. > :15:23.who was stabbed to death in Canterbury last year,

:15:24. > :15:25.have received an apology from the country's top lawyer

:15:26. > :15:27.for the way the case was handled. The Attorney General says

:15:28. > :15:29.he was deeply troubled by a series of mistakes made

:15:30. > :15:32.by the Crown Prosecution Service during the sentencing

:15:33. > :15:33.of those responsible As Robin Gibson reports her

:15:34. > :15:45.family have now been told For the families of the victims of

:15:46. > :15:50.this brutea murder, even support from the Attorney-General feels like

:15:51. > :15:54.a hollow victory. He's agreed the families of Natasha sad letter Ellis

:15:55. > :15:59.and Simon Gorecki, murdered in Canterbury more than a year ago,

:16:00. > :16:11.received shabby treatment from the Crown Prosecution Service. -- the

:16:12. > :16:16.families of Natasha Sadler. It is shocking. Somebody has to be

:16:17. > :16:20.made accountable. We will fight on, it won't deter us. The

:16:21. > :16:27.Attorney-General agrees. In a letter Jeremy Wright said:

:16:28. > :16:34.The families are foo you arous they ran out of time to appeal against

:16:35. > :16:39.sentences against two accomplices. One was sentenced to a year and one

:16:40. > :16:43.ten weeks for helping to conceal the knife used. It is unusual for the

:16:44. > :16:47.attorney to speak in such strong terms. Clearly the family concerned

:16:48. > :16:51.weren't well-served by the Crown Prosecution Service and it is

:16:52. > :16:55.appropriate, isn't it, that he should aapproximately Is on their

:16:56. > :17:00.approximate approximate behalf. The two were stabbed after a housemate's

:17:01. > :17:06.row. The which willer was this man, Foster Christian who was sentenced

:17:07. > :17:10.to a life with not less than 30 years' tariff. The family feel they

:17:11. > :17:14.were let down by the prosecution service who should have told them

:17:15. > :17:19.they had only 28 days to appeal The 28 days past and then - I'm sorry,

:17:20. > :17:23.it's too late now but he has to be held accountable. The sentences

:17:24. > :17:30.stand but the families are now hoping for a judicial review.

:17:31. > :17:32.A teenager accused of killing his stepfather with a single punch,

:17:33. > :17:35.in a row over pocket money, is no longer facing a murder charge.

:17:36. > :17:37.18-year-old Douglas Herridge is still accused of manslaughter,

:17:38. > :17:39.following the death of former national squash champion

:17:40. > :17:48.Colin Payne at their home in Dartford last November.

:17:49. > :17:50.The teenager claims he acted in self-defence.

:17:51. > :17:54.Tributes have been paid to a Romanian man whose body was found

:17:55. > :17:57.Razvan Sirbu, who was 21, was discovered in the Loose

:17:58. > :18:01.Nehir Armstrong believes she was one of the last

:18:02. > :18:05.She stopped to talk to him in the early hours of Saturday

:18:06. > :18:09.She said news of his death has left her devastated.

:18:10. > :18:13.I can't stop crying since I feel guilty.

:18:14. > :18:19.Do something different maybe, handle differently, maybe.

:18:20. > :18:28.Maybe I have to make sure he is all right.

:18:29. > :18:34.Maybe I should follow him, I don't know what to do but,

:18:35. > :18:37.Piers Hopkirk is in Tovil for us now.

:18:38. > :18:44.What more do we know about the victim, Razvan Sirbu? Detectives are

:18:45. > :18:49.trying to build up a picture of his life. We know he came to the UK last

:18:50. > :18:53.October. That he's from Romania. We know that he has family in the

:18:54. > :18:59.Gravesend area and that he'd worked there for a recruitment firm. He'd

:19:00. > :19:04.also worked in warehouses around Maidstone and Paddock Wood. At times

:19:05. > :19:10.we know he'd slept rough. He had come to this specific spot in Tovil

:19:11. > :19:13.less than a day or so before his death, presumably and ironically,

:19:14. > :19:18.for the peace and tranquillity it provides. Detectives are now trying

:19:19. > :19:21.to work out why it was he met such a violent end here.

:19:22. > :19:24.That's it from me in the Studio, we can cross back now

:19:25. > :19:33.Thank you very much, Natalie. It is a beautiful evening here. We have

:19:34. > :19:36.been hearing some of the views of the political parties. I'm pleased

:19:37. > :19:40.to say that Stephen Lloyd from the Liberal Democrats has pulled up into

:19:41. > :19:44.the car park. We will be able to have a conversation with him in a

:19:45. > :19:48.moment. But what are your thoughts of what the politicians are saying?

:19:49. > :19:53.Is it in tune your thinking or hopelessly out of step? Where better

:19:54. > :20:02.to gauge that, than at a dance class.

:20:03. > :20:04.One, two, three, four, five and check.

:20:05. > :20:05.The snap election wrong-footed everyone.

:20:06. > :20:09.The carefully choreographed campaigns are now in full swing.

:20:10. > :20:12.It's a familiar routine, but is it one that voters can follow?

:20:13. > :20:19.I don't think "excited" would be the word.

:20:20. > :20:24.Strictly speaking, elections are won on policies like health,

:20:25. > :20:30.education and the economy, but this time round, the real

:20:31. > :20:33.judges, the voters here in Medway, have another category in mind.

:20:34. > :20:34.Chasse, forward, point, turn, turn, turn, turn.

:20:35. > :20:44.Unfortunately Brexit is a big issue because, well,

:20:45. > :20:50.If we get a good deal with Europe, obviously everything else benefits.

:20:51. > :20:53.Health and education is probably more important to me than Brexit,

:20:54. > :20:55.in an ordinary election, but I think Brexit at the moment

:20:56. > :21:00.So in the early rounds Brexit may have stolen the show

:21:01. > :21:05.but the old favourites never go away.

:21:06. > :21:13.I think we're doing fantastically considering how bad it is.

:21:14. > :21:16.I have never had a problem with the NHS around here.

:21:17. > :21:21.The doctors' surgeries, to be fair, if you want to get an appointment

:21:22. > :21:26.you have to ring up and it could be two, three weeks.

:21:27. > :21:29.Knowing that the NHS is going to be there in five or ten years' time

:21:30. > :21:33.Obviously if it is not, we have to pay for it

:21:34. > :21:35.all and we become very Americanised, and it's going to be

:21:36. > :21:38.But this contest has only just started.

:21:39. > :21:40.There are four more weeks for the political

:21:41. > :21:48.parties to persuade voters to take their lead.

:21:49. > :21:53.I'm pleased to stay that Stephen Lloyd from the Liberal Democrats, as

:21:54. > :21:56.I said he'd made it clear, got through the traffic. Thank you very

:21:57. > :22:01.much for joining us this evening. Thank you, my pleasure. We have been

:22:02. > :22:05.talking about the NHS and the fact that it would appear to be creeking

:22:06. > :22:09.at the seams on the margins. The Liberal Democrats are the only party

:22:10. > :22:13.that have said up front would you put a penny on income tax to pay for

:22:14. > :22:17.more services in the NHS? Absolutely. Funnily enough, first of

:22:18. > :22:23.all sorry I'm late but listening on the news coming here, the recent

:22:24. > :22:27.report shows that the NHS is borse than it has been for the last five

:22:28. > :22:31.years, I'm sure you have already covered that. I'm pleased with the

:22:32. > :22:35.Liberal Democrat position. Three key things, one, putting a penny on

:22:36. > :22:38.income tax, so it is costed, an extra ?6.9 billion which includes

:22:39. > :22:43.social care and mental health. People know that's the sort of money

:22:44. > :22:48.that is necessary for the NHS. The second thing I'm pleased about is

:22:49. > :22:52.that the income for social care. Everyone out there knows it is not

:22:53. > :22:56.just the hospital issue it is the issues in social care. We are

:22:57. > :23:00.putting together a package that covers both and last but not least,

:23:01. > :23:03.we recognise it is bigger than politics, frankly bigger than party

:23:04. > :23:07.politics, Norman Lambe our former Health Minister has put forward a

:23:08. > :23:10.very clear proposal, before the snap election was called where he and a

:23:11. > :23:14.few Conservatives and Labour, cross-party went into the Department

:23:15. > :23:21.of health and said - come on, we have to sit down and sort this out

:23:22. > :23:23.together. In electoral terms, saying you want people it pay more money,

:23:24. > :23:29.do you think you want people it pay more money,

:23:30. > :23:34.do you on the NHS, I do. We all know that Labour's thing of another poach

:23:35. > :23:38.of the top 5%, I think about their 12th pledge on the top 5% doesn't

:23:39. > :23:41.work. What people understand with the health service is we all need it

:23:42. > :23:45.and use it and I think everyone would be prepared to contribute that

:23:46. > :23:48.bit extra to make it work. Thank you for being with us this evening.

:23:49. > :23:51.Let's turn to Helen Catt our Political Editor. We have heard from

:23:52. > :23:55.the political parties this eepg, why is the NHS such a big issue? As

:23:56. > :23:59.Stephen said, I think it is because everybody uses it, and usually at a

:24:00. > :24:03.time in their life when they are quite vulnerable or emotional. It is

:24:04. > :24:07.something everyone has a real emotional connection W added to

:24:08. > :24:14.that, we've had a lot of big figures bandied around. ?6 billion from

:24:15. > :24:18.lakes ?7 from the UK, ?3 billion from the Ukip and ?from the

:24:19. > :24:23.Conservatives. But how do we pay for the NHS, with an annual budget of

:24:24. > :24:27.?120 billion, will these things add that much. We have not heard from

:24:28. > :24:31.the green Party this evening, we will talk to them in other

:24:32. > :24:34.programmes. They have yet to launch their policies. They've talked about

:24:35. > :24:38.ending private involvement in the NHS. They've also made some specific

:24:39. > :24:43.mental health pledges this week, saying they would guarantee access

:24:44. > :24:46.to psychological therapy within 28 days for everyone that needs it.

:24:47. > :24:49.Before we get to the end of the programme, lets anticipate find out

:24:50. > :24:51.what will be going on with the weather. Sarah Keith Lucas is with

:24:52. > :24:59.us here in Chatham. And fine end to the day here in

:25:00. > :25:03.Chatham. Across the region a decent day. Temperatures up to 21. There

:25:04. > :25:08.has been a bit more cloud that has been creeping in over the past few

:25:09. > :25:13.hours and out of that cloud a few showers, too. So that's how it looks

:25:14. > :25:18.at the moment. We have showers around along the south coast. Most

:25:19. > :25:22.of us dry as we end the day. Tomorrow a similar sort of day. It

:25:23. > :25:25.is looking humid and there will be chat scattered showers around. Back

:25:26. > :25:28.to this evening and evernight we'll continue to see showers moving away

:25:29. > :25:32.northwards T could bring with them the odd rumble the thunder. Hit and

:25:33. > :25:36.miss and not everywhere seeing the showers. That's how we start the day

:25:37. > :25:39.tomorrow. Showers from the word go. But looking frost-free, a milder

:25:40. > :25:42.start than it was this morning. Through the day tomorrow, some

:25:43. > :25:45.showers through the middle of the day could be heaviy, potentially

:25:46. > :25:50.under thisry and temperatures up to 17 or 18 but they fade away through

:25:51. > :25:54.the course of Friday night. So, by the time when we get to Saturday

:25:55. > :25:59.morning, it is looking frost-free once again and set is going to be a

:26:00. > :26:03.pretty decent day, dry, plenty of sunshine on offer and temperatures

:26:04. > :26:06.doing reasonably well. 17 or 18. A bit of useful rain overnight

:26:07. > :26:09.Saturday into Sunday and Sunday another largely dry but a

:26:10. > :26:12.fresher-feeling day. Sarah, thank you very much. Well, that's it from

:26:13. > :26:16.us for this evening. Straight after this we'll be doing

:26:17. > :26:21.a Facebook live event with our political editor Helen Catt

:26:22. > :26:23.and with our health You can get involved

:26:24. > :26:30.on facebook.com/bbcsoutheasttoday. But for now from us in Chatham. Good

:26:31. > :27:17.evening. Ukip created history

:27:18. > :27:34.and won us all Brexit. I grew up on a council estate, where

:27:35. > :27:40.everybody there just voted Labour.