06/11/2013

Download Subtitles

Transcript

:00:00. > :00:20.from the west That is all

:00:21. > :00:45.End of an era. This was always inevitable as work comes to an end.

:00:46. > :00:52.A sad day. The trade, let down. Political pawns in the coalition

:00:53. > :00:54.game. We will have reaction from the dockyard and hear from MPs in

:00:55. > :01:14.Westminster. "We're political pawns to save

:01:15. > :01:18.Scottish jobs". The view of just one of the workers reacting to the

:01:19. > :01:21.bombshell that shipbuilding is to end at Portsmouth dockyards. Welcome

:01:22. > :01:27.to a special edition of South Today which is coming from a city reeling

:01:28. > :01:35.from today's news. Let's have a look at some of the

:01:36. > :01:44.headlines today. BAE Systems once to show `` wants to lose 1000 jobs.

:01:45. > :01:49.3000 workers will remain to do maintenance work and training. And

:01:50. > :01:52.Portsmouth is still home to the Navy. The Government says it will

:01:53. > :02:01.spend more than ?100 million to cushion the blow but critics

:02:02. > :02:06.question whether that's new money. A decision had been long awaited. It

:02:07. > :02:09.has been discussed many times. In the end, the announcement was

:02:10. > :02:23.brought forward because the leaks were coming out. Steve Humphreys has

:02:24. > :02:26.been in ports all day. The grey miserable weather in

:02:27. > :02:29.Portsmouth today has matched the mood of the city's shipyard workers.

:02:30. > :02:34.A large number of highly skilled jobs are being lost and that's a

:02:35. > :02:37.huge blow for the region's economy. Tonight many questions are being

:02:38. > :02:49.asked about why Portsmouth is suffering the lion's share of the

:02:50. > :02:59.job cuts. There has been a question hanging

:03:00. > :03:06.over the shipyard for over a year . Some of the shipyard workers spoke

:03:07. > :03:15.as they left the naval base. It is a sad day for the loss of work in the

:03:16. > :03:22.South. It is a political decision. I have worked in this yard since I was

:03:23. > :03:29.16, 26 years. First time this has happened to me. It would be

:03:30. > :03:40.devastating. About six months work left. It is not unexpected. We knew

:03:41. > :03:46.it was coming. BAe is cutting jobs across the country. As work on the

:03:47. > :03:53.Navy's new aircraft carriers comes to an end, work will fall sharply.

:03:54. > :03:59.But some of the aircraft work that Portsmouth was due to carry out will

:04:00. > :04:07.now be switched to Scotland. We trade and let down. Political pawns

:04:08. > :04:10.in the Tory coalition game. Shipyard workers in Portsmouth had been

:04:11. > :04:18.hoping they would get contracts to build some of the Navy's new type 26

:04:19. > :04:23.frigates. But all of that work will now be done on the Clyde in

:04:24. > :04:31.Scotland. BAe says the decisions are based on industrial analysis, not on

:04:32. > :04:42.politics. I understand the impact of the announcement in ports mouth and

:04:43. > :04:55.Glasgow. `` ports mouth my job is to work to reduce the impact of these

:04:56. > :05:00.announcement. Around 11,000 military and civilian personnel. Be employed

:05:01. > :05:03.at Portsmouth. The government says another ?100 million will be

:05:04. > :05:07.invested in the naval base to prepare for the arrival of the

:05:08. > :05:16.aircraft carriers in a few years time.

:05:17. > :05:19.The decision ends a tradition of ship building in Portsmouth

:05:20. > :05:22.stretching back five centuries. It was King John who ordered the

:05:23. > :05:26.construction of the dockyard 800 years ago. In 1495, Henry VII built

:05:27. > :05:29.the world's first dry dock in Portsmouth. Henry VIII had his

:05:30. > :05:33.flagship, the Mary Rose, built there. The yard's heyday was before

:05:34. > :05:36.the First World War with super battleships like the Dreadnought.

:05:37. > :05:39.But there was decline after the Second World War and the last

:05:40. > :05:46.complete warship was finished there in 1967. A revival followed the

:05:47. > :05:55.Vospers move from Southampton a decade ago. But that will end next

:05:56. > :06:14.year. So shipbuilding being consigned to history. With me now is

:06:15. > :06:18.Gerald Vernon Jackon, the city's Liberal Democrat council leader. If

:06:19. > :06:22.Scotland becomes independent, the last war shipbuilding yard in

:06:23. > :06:27.England will be shut down. We are the last place. Are you suggesting

:06:28. > :06:36.that this was a political decision, not based on commerce? If it was not

:06:37. > :06:42.a political decision, ministers have been hugely irresponsible. Scotland,

:06:43. > :06:47.in one year, may be independent and then the boil Navy would have no

:06:48. > :06:52.shipyard is left in England to build complex warships. That would mean we

:06:53. > :06:57.would have to go with the Royal Navy to buy from abroad, from France or

:06:58. > :07:04.Germany. Let's talk about closer to home. This was expected and talked

:07:05. > :07:08.about two years ago. What are you doing at what have you done to

:07:09. > :07:14.prepare for this day because you knew it was coming? We put pressure

:07:15. > :07:18.on the government to keep the yard open until we knew the future of

:07:19. > :07:24.Scotland. Unfortunately, ministers have turned a deaf ear to all our

:07:25. > :07:31.suggestions. There is still 3000 workers here for BAE Systems, they

:07:32. > :07:40.are still a big employer. Yes, it is a big employer, there are 11,000

:07:41. > :07:48.jobs in the dockyard, now there are 10,000. Jobs sacrificed here for the

:07:49. > :07:53.sake of the referendum in Scotland, you are saying? I do not know. I do

:07:54. > :07:58.not know if that was the decision. The decision could have been put off

:07:59. > :08:03.until we knew if Scotland was going to be independent or not. For the

:08:04. > :08:08.Royal Navy to have to go to foreign countries to buy their ships, as me

:08:09. > :08:14.know happen, is not the place the royal navy should be in. Thank you.

:08:15. > :08:17.The debate has raged today about whether this announcement was a

:08:18. > :08:20.political or economic decision. Let's cross to Westminster to join

:08:21. > :08:24.our Political Editor Peter Henley. The unions say this as a political

:08:25. > :08:45.game with ports mouth as the sacrificial lamb. But party leaders

:08:46. > :08:51.are seeing it was and economic decision. We always knew there were

:08:52. > :09:02.going to be jobs that would go because the aircraft carrier project

:09:03. > :09:11.was so fast. But those new orders could have been done in Portsmouth.

:09:12. > :09:14.Yes, but because of the disastrous contract signed by the last

:09:15. > :09:21.government, there was not enough money. Was it your fault? This

:09:22. > :09:30.problem has been coming for some time. In three years, they have done

:09:31. > :09:34.nothing to get more jobs. They are taking work that was going to be

:09:35. > :09:39.done in Portsmouth and sending it to Scotland. We have been sold down the

:09:40. > :09:42.river. It does not mean it was a political decision, but ministers

:09:43. > :09:50.have got their fingerprints all over it. The key to this is the jobs.

:09:51. > :09:54.Making sure that jobs are protected. There are still 11,000 jobs in the

:09:55. > :10:05.dockyard, we need to make sure they are protected. Is there enough help

:10:06. > :10:12.coming from the government? We will see when the city deal comes

:10:13. > :10:16.forward. BAE Systems had been the provider of skills for the whole of

:10:17. > :10:20.southern England and we have got to replace that somehow. A lot of

:10:21. > :10:23.people who went to work in Portsmouth on the promise of

:10:24. > :10:31.long`term jobs, they are not long`term now. We will have more

:10:32. > :10:35.later in the programme. We will be looking at the impact on the local

:10:36. > :10:49.economy here and also that city deal.

:10:50. > :10:54.520 jobs are at risk after pharmaceutical company Novartis

:10:55. > :10:57.announced it is to close its site in Horsham in West Sussex. The

:10:58. > :11:00.Switzerland based company employs 350 people there in research and

:11:01. > :11:03.development posts, together with around 170 contractors. Two years

:11:04. > :11:06.ago, the company cut more than 400 jobs at the site.

:11:07. > :11:10.Horsham District Council says it is shocked at news of the closure. It

:11:11. > :11:13.is one of the largest private employer is here, but not for much

:11:14. > :11:17.longer. Novartis halved its workforce here two years ago, but

:11:18. > :11:22.now it has started a consultation which could close the site next

:11:23. > :11:28.year. In the town, there was shocked at the news. I should think it will

:11:29. > :11:37.be a big blow, they must employ a lot of people who come into town. To

:11:38. > :11:43.get a job now here is going to be very difficult. It is a large blow.

:11:44. > :11:52.There is a lot of employment. The town has a strong economy, but this

:11:53. > :12:01.will take sometime to absorb. The company declined our request for an

:12:02. > :12:06.interview, but gave an interview to a newspaper. This decision is

:12:07. > :12:15.nothing to do with the quality of the work. Some of the work currently

:12:16. > :12:19.being done will be moved to other locations around the world. Horsham

:12:20. > :12:24.district Council says it is talking to Novartis about the future of the

:12:25. > :12:34.site itself and to try to find alternative employment for the

:12:35. > :12:38.workers who are losing their jobs. An inquest into the death of a three

:12:39. > :12:42.month old baby in Southampton has heard that he suffered a fractured

:12:43. > :12:45.skull, and that his father had a previous conviction for child

:12:46. > :12:49.cruelty, but the authorities didn't know. The coroner recorded an open

:12:50. > :12:52.verdict into the death of Nico Maynard, the fourth such verdict in

:12:53. > :12:57.three days of inquests into the deaths of four young children in the

:12:58. > :13:00.city. Tom Hepworth is here with the background to this, Tom.

:13:01. > :13:04.The first inquest, held on Monday, was that of Blake Fowler. He died in

:13:05. > :13:08.2011 from a head injury. He was seven. The coroner said it was

:13:09. > :13:12.difficult to know exactly how he died, but his parents were guilty of

:13:13. > :13:16.an appalling and disgraceful failure to prioritise his needs. A serious

:13:17. > :13:20.case review will now take place. On Tuesday, the coroner looked into the

:13:21. > :13:23.deaths of brothers Bradley and Jayden Adams in 2011. Aged four and

:13:24. > :13:27.two, they died three months apart. Four weeks before Jayden's death

:13:28. > :13:30.their neglectful mother had begged for the children to be taken into

:13:31. > :13:34.care because she couldn't cope. They weren't. The coroner recorded an

:13:35. > :13:38.open verdict. No`one was prosecuted and there'll now be a serious case

:13:39. > :13:41.review. Today, the court heard about three`month old Nico Maynard who

:13:42. > :13:45.also died in 2011. He had a fractured skull. His father had

:13:46. > :13:48.previously been jailed for child cruelty and social workers described

:13:49. > :13:51.him as a massive risk to young children, but authorities in

:13:52. > :13:54.Southampton didn't know this. Again no`one was prosecuted. A serious

:13:55. > :13:58.case review published last week recommended a new national register

:13:59. > :14:04.of those with a history of child violence. It brings the number of

:14:05. > :14:07.serious case reviews into how Southampton City Council handled

:14:08. > :14:11.child protection cases over the last year to five. Earlier I spoke to

:14:12. > :14:13.Keith Makin, the chairman of the Southampton Safeguarding Children

:14:14. > :14:17.board. I asked him whether the public can have any confidence in

:14:18. > :14:24.child protection measures in the city after these deaths.

:14:25. > :14:33.There was a concentration at that point in time. But I am not reading

:14:34. > :14:42.into that any indication that there is a systemic problem in the area. I

:14:43. > :14:48.don't think we can reflect on that that there is some inherent issue in

:14:49. > :14:52.Southampton that is different from anywhere else. Each of these cases

:14:53. > :14:58.were different in nature and that is not a connection between them. Five

:14:59. > :15:04.Serious Case Reviews over a 12 month period, a lot of people would read

:15:05. > :15:12.into that that there is something seriously wrong. I do not know if

:15:13. > :15:16.that is the case. The purpose in looking into all these cases very

:15:17. > :15:27.thoroughly is to establish whether there could have been some factors

:15:28. > :15:30.that led to some difficulty. To what extent did a relatively high

:15:31. > :15:35.proportion of agency workers have a bearing on these cases? Whether that

:15:36. > :15:51.was a factor at the time, I don't know. It is something I will want to

:15:52. > :15:56.look into. There is a partnership across all the agencies who will be

:15:57. > :16:04.interested in any connection between staffing levels and outcomes. Does

:16:05. > :16:09.that have ramifications on the recruitment and retention of social

:16:10. > :16:17.workers? I think it could. But the evidence is that Southampton at the

:16:18. > :16:24.moment is being very successful in recruiting well`qualified, able

:16:25. > :16:28.social work staff. West Berkshire Council has set out

:16:29. > :16:32.how it will save ?10 million over the next two years. Support for

:16:33. > :16:36.vulnerable young adults will see its funding reduced by a third. Nearly

:16:37. > :16:39.half a million pounds will be taken from care budgets and bus subsidies

:16:40. > :16:43.will also be affected. The Conservative`run council said it had

:16:44. > :16:46.to deal with significant cuts to its budget.

:16:47. > :16:51.It's Children in Need next Friday, November the 15th. All this week,

:16:52. > :16:54.we've been taking a look at where your money has been spent. Today,

:16:55. > :17:02.Sarah Farmer visits the Eastleigh Young carers.

:17:03. > :17:05.This project as children the opportunity to leave behind the

:17:06. > :17:21.day`to`day chores and stresses and just be children. We were fortunate

:17:22. > :17:25.to receive ?66,000 from children in need. They go on trips and

:17:26. > :17:35.activities, meet others in a similar situation. It's nice to forget all

:17:36. > :17:45.my worries. My mum can't take me swimming and they can. To be a

:17:46. > :17:50.normal child, really, and be free. To actually get some time out to be

:17:51. > :17:55.a kid, leave worries behind for a little while and have some fun. That

:17:56. > :18:07.is the best gift you can give, really. This group helps give

:18:08. > :18:16.disadvantaged, homeless young people the tools to live independently. It

:18:17. > :18:20.works with young people who might have experienced difficulties in

:18:21. > :18:26.their life. The money from children in need is brilliant. We got ?30,000

:18:27. > :18:31.over a three`year period to part fund one of our training

:18:32. > :18:39.coordinators. It helps my self`esteem and confidence. I am in

:18:40. > :18:45.college, which I did not think I would have got without this place.

:18:46. > :18:52.Children In Need really does help local projects in the local

:18:53. > :18:58.community. We will focus on more charities

:18:59. > :19:04.helped by Children In Need tomorrow. And now the weather.

:19:05. > :19:14.Some pretty wet weather to come and some strong gusty winds as well. We

:19:15. > :19:25.could see gusts along the coast of 60 mph. There will be some heavy

:19:26. > :19:30.bursts of rain in the. But that band of rain will easily and drier

:19:31. > :19:36.conditions follow. That cloud is easing away tomorrow morning. Once

:19:37. > :19:42.we get rid of that weather, it looks like a decent day with bright and

:19:43. > :19:52.sunny spells, perhaps a few showers. It looks like we will have

:19:53. > :20:00.a fairly decent day, but still some brisk and blustery winds. A few

:20:01. > :20:15.showers first thing on Friday morning, temperatures down to 56

:20:16. > :20:19.degrees. `` five or six degrees. For the most part, it will be dry on

:20:20. > :20:27.Friday. A similar picture on Saturday as well. We have got some

:20:28. > :20:32.wind, but it will ease off on Friday and Saturday. But a front arrives on

:20:33. > :20:40.Sunday bringing cloudy conditions with damp outbreaks of rain and

:20:41. > :20:50.drizzle. The weekend will be unsettled with bright `` some bright

:20:51. > :20:53.and sunny intervals. Here is your summary for the coming days. We

:20:54. > :20:57.start with the cloud and dampness first thing tomorrow morning.

:20:58. > :21:03.Brighter skies developing. On Friday and Saturday, a few scattered

:21:04. > :21:10.showers with sunny intervals. Sunday looking cloudy.

:21:11. > :21:22.Thank you. Now let's join Sally who's in Portsmouth tonight with

:21:23. > :21:24.more reaction to today's news about the end of shipbuilding at the

:21:25. > :21:28.city's dockyard, Sally. Welcome back to Portsmouth, a city

:21:29. > :21:32.struggling to come to terms with the news that Navy shipbuilding will end

:21:33. > :21:38.here next year. And with it, 1,100 jobs will go. Repair and maintenance

:21:39. > :21:43.of the Navy's ships will remain here, and the city will still be the

:21:44. > :21:46.home to the surface fleet, including the two new aircraft carriers. We

:21:47. > :22:04.asked people on the streets of Portsmouth for their reaction to

:22:05. > :22:10.today's news. Absolutely awful. It is all to do with money. They make

:22:11. > :22:16.all these big decisions about things and then it all goes down the pan.

:22:17. > :22:26.Add dockyard has gone back hundreds of years.

:22:27. > :22:33.What will there be from the government? The Government says it

:22:34. > :22:37.will give infrastructure grants and set up a maritime task force to help

:22:38. > :22:41.cope with the loss of shipbuilding. An announcement is also expected

:22:42. > :22:44.shortly on a City Deal for the area as Alex Forsyth explains.

:22:45. > :22:48.A City Deal would give Portsmouth more economic power over its future.

:22:49. > :22:51.It could directly profit from local business taxes and make decisions on

:22:52. > :22:54.growth and investment with less government involvement. Projects

:22:55. > :22:56.that could benefit include the Northern Quarter shopping and

:22:57. > :22:59.housing complex and the redevelopment of Tipner, where work

:23:00. > :23:03.has already started. But this isn't new. Portsmouth and Southampton put

:23:04. > :23:11.in a joint bid for this status in January. Today, the Government said

:23:12. > :23:15.negotiations are close to conclusion, keen to soften the blow

:23:16. > :23:18.of the loss of shipbuilding. It also announced a new maritime forum to

:23:19. > :23:21.advise local business on promoting the industry, and ?100 million worth

:23:22. > :23:25.of investment in Portsmouth's infrastructure to help it to host

:23:26. > :23:29.the new aircraft carriers. The local council claims this isn't new money,

:23:30. > :23:36.while the government wants to show it is supporting the city. With

:23:37. > :23:44.Beano is the chief Executive of the Hampshire chamber of commerce. It is

:23:45. > :23:53.a huge blow to the economy. This stretches further as well. Yes, it

:23:54. > :23:57.is a blow for the city. We ought to remember it is a huge blow

:23:58. > :24:01.personally for those who found out today that they will lose their

:24:02. > :24:07.jobs. We have known about the fact that there will be job losses for

:24:08. > :24:12.some time. To find out the extent of that in Portsmouth was the news we

:24:13. > :24:18.did not want to hear. But it does go wider than that. How much further?

:24:19. > :24:22.How many jobs will be lost or companies in trouble because of

:24:23. > :24:29.this? I have heard figures. What sort of figures? 3000 secondary

:24:30. > :24:35.jobs. But that is difficult to assess. There is a supply chain that

:24:36. > :24:40.works with shipbuilding. That will probably suffer. But some of those

:24:41. > :24:45.people will be involved in ship repair. What is your view of this

:24:46. > :24:51.100 million that the government is giving? It is not new money in that

:24:52. > :24:58.it is not directly related to today's news. It is money that has

:24:59. > :25:05.been allocated to help the dockyard adapt and be able to receive the two

:25:06. > :25:10.new carriers. It is not tied in to today. Do you think shipbuilding has

:25:11. > :25:17.gone for good from Portsmouth? We know it has gone as far as this time

:25:18. > :25:26.frame has concerned `` is concerned, but the capacity to build ships will

:25:27. > :25:30.remain. Thank you. Let's return to Westminster and get

:25:31. > :25:37.a summary of what is being talked about the.

:25:38. > :25:48.It is worth wondering what if? What if Portsmouth had remained open and

:25:49. > :26:01.one of the yards in Scotland was closed? Would there be more than the

:26:02. > :26:04.city deal? Much of that money has already been allocated in the

:26:05. > :26:12.Portsmouth area. Thank you. Steve Humphreys has been

:26:13. > :26:15.a Portsmouth dockyard for most of the day. A difficult day for

:26:16. > :26:21.workers. Yes, the warship building industry

:26:22. > :26:27.has always been notorious for having peaks and troughs. To build the new

:26:28. > :26:32.aircraft carriers, people always knew there would be paying at the

:26:33. > :26:37.end of that project because of the lack of orders coming after. Simply

:26:38. > :26:42.not enough to keep the shipyards going around the country. The reason

:26:43. > :26:47.for that is the size of the Royal navy fleet. At the time of the

:26:48. > :26:54.Falklands, the Royal Navy had 60 frigates and destroyers. Right now,

:26:55. > :26:58.there are 19. A very badly far as shipbuilding is concerned, but at

:26:59. > :27:07.least we will store around 11,000 jobs at the naval base.

:27:08. > :27:22.Thank you. If you want to get in touch, let us know what you think.

:27:23. > :27:30.Our colleagues in BBC local radio have a special programme tomorrow

:27:31. > :27:35.morning. This is a very difficult day for Portsmouth. A city defined

:27:36. > :27:40.by its history. Today, it learned that ship building will become part

:27:41. > :27:43.of its past. Hundreds of staff have gone home tonight and certain of

:27:44. > :27:47.what their future holds. Good night.