08/02/2017

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:00:00. > :00:00.Hello and welcome to South Today, I'm Laura Trant.

:00:07. > :00:10.The top stories this evening: Protection for police.

:00:11. > :00:28.This is a barbaric form of treatment of the individuals and is not safe.

:00:29. > :00:33.And the exchange in the Commons over Surrey county council's decision

:00:34. > :00:36.to drop a referendum on a 15 per cent increase in Council Tax

:00:37. > :00:42.Two of the South's police forces are to equip all front line officers

:00:43. > :00:48.They can be placed on offenders to prevent them spitting

:00:49. > :00:53.But their use has been condemned by human rights organisations,

:00:54. > :00:54.and rejected by some other police forces.

:00:55. > :01:00.Here's our Home Affairs Correspondent, Emma Vardy.

:01:01. > :01:03.A third of police forces across the UK have used spitguards.

:01:04. > :01:06.Now, for the first time, officers from

:01:07. > :01:13.Hampshire and Thames Valley will all carried them on duty.

:01:14. > :01:15.We have seen instances where officers have had

:01:16. > :01:19.Not only is it a disgusting and vile thing to do,

:01:20. > :01:21.but actually puts them at risk of infection.

:01:22. > :01:23.So we have looked at the evidence available and

:01:24. > :01:25.had national advice that says we should look

:01:26. > :01:27.to issue spitguards to

:01:28. > :01:32.Over the past ten months, officers from the two forces

:01:33. > :01:34.have reported being spat at more than 400 times.

:01:35. > :01:38.I speak to police officers who have had to go through

:01:39. > :01:40.medical processes to make sure they have not

:01:41. > :01:46.Is there a danger putting a hood on someone's head could potentially

:01:47. > :01:48.Police officers will understand and closely monitor

:01:49. > :01:54.And a point at which they stop spitting, the spitguard

:01:55. > :01:58.But there is disagreement over whether they

:01:59. > :02:00.The Metropolitan Police have been consulting on

:02:01. > :02:03.whether to introduce spitguards, but a pilot last year was cancelled

:02:04. > :02:05.after London mayor Sadiq Khan voiced concerns.

:02:06. > :02:07.And Kent Police decided against their use after considering

:02:08. > :02:10.the impact on a person having a spit guard placed on them.

:02:11. > :02:12.There can be fallout for police if they are

:02:13. > :02:19.deemed to have been used inappropriately.

:02:20. > :02:20.Last year, the Independent Police Complaints

:02:21. > :02:22.Commission found there was a case to answer

:02:23. > :02:25.against Sussex Police when a

:02:26. > :02:28.spit guard was used on an 11-year-old girl, with a condition

:02:29. > :02:33.Now, London is trialling them in just a small

:02:34. > :02:36.number of custody suites, but along with other

:02:37. > :02:39.forces such as Dorset, will routinely be giving them to

:02:40. > :02:47.Health do not use spitguards, the prison

:02:48. > :02:50.service do not use them and nor do Northern Ireland.

:02:51. > :02:53.As soon as you start restraining people on the

:02:54. > :02:55.head, accidents happen and people could get seriously injured and

:02:56. > :02:59.Police say suspects will be told why a spitguard is

:03:00. > :03:07.being used and when their behaviour changes, it will be removed.

:03:08. > :03:10.Earlier I spoke to the Sussex MP Tim Lougton, who's

:03:11. > :03:11.on the Home Affairs Select Committee.

:03:12. > :03:16.He believes spithoods protect police officers.

:03:17. > :03:18.And Kevin Donaghue, a lawyer for a firm that specialises in cases

:03:19. > :03:20.against the police who thinks they are dangerous

:03:21. > :03:32.I started by asking him what his main concerns are.

:03:33. > :03:39.They're just used in isolation, but with other forms of restraint such

:03:40. > :03:43.as being handcuffed, that would be a certainty. Or being placed in a

:03:44. > :03:47.prone position on the floor, for example. That can raise issues of

:03:48. > :03:53.position asphyxia, leading to brain damage and potentially death. This

:03:54. > :03:58.is a barbaric form of treatment of the individuals and it is not safe.

:03:59. > :04:02.There should be other options explored to protect those officers.

:04:03. > :04:09.I can see you shaking your head, you obviously disagree. You exploring

:04:10. > :04:14.strict protocols under which these strict protocols under which these

:04:15. > :04:18.spitguards can be used. It is alarmist language and Mr Donahue has

:04:19. > :04:23.used the word barbaric twice and tried to imply that there are loads

:04:24. > :04:27.of people who are dying all around the world because of the use of

:04:28. > :04:33.these spitguards. That is absolute nonsense. It is a proportionate and

:04:34. > :04:35.balanced measure for those who will not come quietly, who will not

:04:36. > :04:43.behave in a civilised way and would put the health of our police

:04:44. > :04:47.officers, doing their job, at risk. That is an acceptable. Timmer, do

:04:48. > :04:52.you think you may be rushing into this? Two thirds of police forces

:04:53. > :04:57.are not using them, including greater Manchester and Metropolitan

:04:58. > :05:01.Police. It is an operational matter for individual forces to decide if

:05:02. > :05:06.there is a case for them to use them. Frankly, if Mr Donahue as a

:05:07. > :05:11.problem with it, and we must remember comedy makes money out of

:05:12. > :05:14.taking cases against police and getting awards of public money for

:05:15. > :05:21.his clients, then it should come up with some better suggestions. With

:05:22. > :05:26.the greatest respect, Tim is the elected MP and he is in charge and

:05:27. > :05:30.he is mistaken, in fact, misleading people by saying the police have to

:05:31. > :05:35.follow strict guidelines, they do not. Bred the national police chief

:05:36. > :05:40.'s cows all have issued guidance for the use of these spitguards. There

:05:41. > :05:41.is no excuse for not allowing our police to take proportionate

:05:42. > :05:45.measures to defend their officers measures to defend their officers

:05:46. > :05:53.going about their normal duty subject this completely barbaric and

:05:54. > :05:56.an acceptable behaviour by people being apprehended. Thank you both.

:05:57. > :05:58."There is no deal with Government, there never was.

:05:59. > :06:03.Those are the words of Surrey Council's leader

:06:04. > :06:08.to claims that he'd been offered a deal by the Government in exchange

:06:09. > :06:12.for dropping plans for a 15% council tax increase.

:06:13. > :06:14.Labour's leader Jeremy Corbyn told the Commons he'd seen leaked text

:06:15. > :06:18.messages that he said proved there had been a secret agreement.

:06:19. > :06:24.Our Political Editor Peter Henley reports.

:06:25. > :06:28.The labour leader Jeremy Corbyn, started

:06:29. > :06:31.with a question about social care to the Prime Minister,

:06:32. > :06:36.venting his information concerning mis-sent texts.

:06:37. > :06:38.You will be contacting me to discuss a

:06:39. > :06:45.There are clues from the start that the

:06:46. > :06:51.I understand you want to chat, he says.

:06:52. > :06:55.Hi, David, I haven't specifically asked to speak to you.

:06:56. > :07:05.I am advised that DCLG officials and my director of finance have been

:07:06. > :07:11.The Chief Secretary to the Treasury is looking at the

:07:12. > :07:13.proposals, now are you in the picture?

:07:14. > :07:17.In the final text, David Hodge reverts to code, the numbers

:07:18. > :07:18.you indicated the numbers understand our unacceptable

:07:19. > :07:26.How much did the government offer Surrey to kill

:07:27. > :07:30.this off and is the same sweetheart deal on offer to every council

:07:31. > :07:33.facing the social care crisis created by her governments?

:07:34. > :07:36.I have made clear to the right honourable

:07:37. > :07:39.gentleman what has been made available to every council, which is

:07:40. > :07:59.It was a tough moment for Theresa May and this afternoon,

:08:00. > :08:02.Surrey County Council put out a statement denying any deal and

:08:03. > :08:06.saying the decision to call off the referendum was theirs alone.

:08:07. > :08:09.It hasn't stopped other councils asking for the same deal

:08:10. > :08:15.Surrey has some of the highest council tax

:08:16. > :08:18.Also, some of the tightest Budget pressures.

:08:19. > :08:19.And some of the most influential MPs in

:08:20. > :08:25.Government, Jeremy Hunt, Philip Hammond, and in David

:08:26. > :08:27.Hodge though, it had a determined and forthright council leader

:08:28. > :08:29.leading the team just seeming to emerge victorious

:08:30. > :08:36.Threatening a referendum on a 15% rise then settling for

:08:37. > :08:42.He wouldn't say exactly what though, but he hinted he had come

:08:43. > :08:46.Today, one simple mistake, pressing the wrong

:08:47. > :08:50.button on the phone, something we have probably all done, seems to

:08:51. > :09:01.That was our political editor Peter Henley.

:09:02. > :09:03.A children's nursery owner in Hampshire

:09:04. > :09:05.who was jailed in 2015 for tax and National Insurance fraud

:09:06. > :09:08.has been told to repay nearly one million pounds.

:09:09. > :09:10.Michael Scott ran two branches of Pixies Day Nursery

:09:11. > :09:17.He was jailed for five-and-a-half years for keeping the contributions

:09:18. > :09:22.Fresh talks aimed at ending the long-running strikes

:09:23. > :09:27.on Southern Railway will be held next week.

:09:28. > :09:29.The RMT union, which represents conductors, has held 25

:09:30. > :09:33.The drivers' union, Aslef, has done a deal with the company

:09:34. > :09:35.to operate more services without a second member

:09:36. > :09:40.Drivers are currently voting whether to accept it.

:09:41. > :09:44.We're back tomorrow with bulletins in BBC Breakfast and there's more

:09:45. > :09:53.Now Alexis has our latest forecast, and it's feeling chilly.

:09:54. > :10:02.Tonight, temperatures are hovering around freezing and may drop below

:10:03. > :10:06.it. We could have patchy frost with cloud, but under the clearing skies

:10:07. > :10:10.you are more likely to see frost. Mainly dry through the evening and

:10:11. > :10:15.overnight tonight. And tomorrow morning. Tomorrow daytime, there's a

:10:16. > :10:24.risk of a wintry showers, sleet or snow. That is delay breeze will take

:10:25. > :10:31.the edge of temperatures. Highs tomorrow of 2-6 C. Feeling why 3-4,

:10:32. > :10:36.given the wind-chill. That will stay with us into Friday and through the

:10:37. > :10:40.weekend. Friday will be similar to tomorrow, more of a chance of a

:10:41. > :10:46.wintry showers, especially after Darwin to bridge starts to fall. We

:10:47. > :10:50.drag in a bitterly cold air from the near continent. The colder and the

:10:51. > :10:57.cloud will stay with us. Bright as polls on Friday, but once again, the

:10:58. > :11:01.risk of a wintry shower. Also over the weekend, on Saturday, that is

:11:02. > :11:02.the coldest day this weekend with a raw wind.

:11:03. > :11:08.cloudy and Ben Rich will take you through the bigger picture.

:11:09. > :11:14.Good evening. Over the next few days I suspect it's going to feel like we

:11:15. > :11:21.have been plunged into the deep freeze. Cold weather on the way and

:11:22. > :11:25.not necessarily crisp cold weather, with blue skies. A lot of cloud,

:11:26. > :11:29.there was some sunshine today across parts of west Wales, for instance.

:11:30. > :11:35.That lifted temperatures up to 11. But further east as you can see from

:11:36. > :11:36.the picture, there was a lot of cloud feeding in and that