:00:00. > :00:12.Suffering a deadly form of cancer, but why was it missed by doctors
:00:13. > :00:18.An investigation into the handling of Julia Rogers'
:00:19. > :00:23.She says the eventual diagnosis was devastating.
:00:24. > :00:26.Yes, it is too much to bear but I don't have a choice.
:00:27. > :00:31.You either throw the towel hn and give up or you fight.
:00:32. > :00:37.Also tonight, a community in mourning.
:00:38. > :00:40.Kingsbridge remembers the teenager who died in thd town
:00:41. > :00:42.on Saturday night, as a second man is arrested in
:00:43. > :00:48.And the incredible story of the female spitfire pilot dubbed the
:00:49. > :00:56.Flying Housewife during the Second World War.
:00:57. > :01:00.An inquiry is under way into how the NHS missed repeated opportunities to
:01:01. > :01:04.Despite numerous GP and hospital visits,
:01:05. > :01:08.over eight months, Julia Rogers from Newton Abbot only learned she
:01:09. > :01:12.had advanced pancreatic cancer after paying privately for ` scan.
:01:13. > :01:18.Now NHS England is leading `n investigation into what went wrong.
:01:19. > :01:26.Here's our Health Correspondent Sally Mountjox.
:01:27. > :01:33.Julia Rogers is as trying to stay positive but it's hard. She recently
:01:34. > :01:37.discovered she has pancreathc cancer after eight months asking GPs and
:01:38. > :01:45.other doctors to help find the cause of her acute back and pain.
:01:46. > :01:48.Shameful. 17 visit and to accident and emergency visits, they still did
:01:49. > :01:52.not have a diagnosis, I still knew that something was very wrong. I
:01:53. > :01:57.felt absolutely awful and I had a lot of pain. And I could not get any
:01:58. > :02:02.of the doctors to take me seriously. Particularly, urgency was
:02:03. > :02:09.totally lacking. Mrs Rogers says between last October and thhs June,
:02:10. > :02:13.she went to GPs at various GP centres 17 times. Attended Torbay
:02:14. > :02:19.hospital emergency department twice and had an ultrasound at Totnes
:02:20. > :02:26.hospital which was normal btt the pancreas was not an image. She was
:02:27. > :02:30.eventually referred for a scan but eventually paid ?600 for a CT scan
:02:31. > :02:35.of the private hospital in Bristol. She was diagnosed with advanced
:02:36. > :02:40.inoperable pancreatic cancer. Only 4% of people who have this cancer
:02:41. > :02:44.survive longer than five ye`rs. Surgery is the only cure but not if
:02:45. > :02:50.it is detected too late. Had they done the CT scan back then, I would
:02:51. > :02:54.have been able to have a procedure which would have been drasthc
:02:55. > :02:59.surgery and it would have ghven me a far better chance than the one I
:03:00. > :03:04.have got now. NHS England told us, we are very sorry to hear about Mrs
:03:05. > :03:06.Rogers diagnosis and the difficulties she seems to h`ve
:03:07. > :03:14.encountered over an extended period. This clearly calls for Thurrock ``
:03:15. > :03:17.thorough investigations and any lessons learned would be put into
:03:18. > :03:22.practice without delay. Julha Rogers says she will not give into the
:03:23. > :03:28.disease. What you do, you ehther throw the towel in or give tp and
:03:29. > :03:34.you fight? It is too much to bear but I don't have a choice, H fight.
:03:35. > :03:35.She is now in hospital, awahting treatment that will enable her to
:03:36. > :03:38.start chemotherapy. Earlier I spoke to Clara Mckay from
:03:39. > :03:41.the charity Pancreatic Cancdr UK. I asked her why this partictlar
:03:42. > :03:44.cancer was lagging behind when it I think there are a number
:03:45. > :03:50.of reasons. Pancreatic cancer has
:03:51. > :03:52.a reputation of being a cancer that is difficult to diagnose,
:03:53. > :03:56.the symptoms can be nonspechfic the pancreas is situated
:03:57. > :04:00.in the body in a position that can So it's sort of fallen behind
:04:01. > :04:08.and we don't have any simpld blood tests or screening tools th`t would
:04:09. > :04:11.aid earlier detection. But because it has has
:04:12. > :04:14.a reputation and because it has had a legacy of neglect in terms
:04:15. > :04:19.of spend on research and focus in terms of government policy, and
:04:20. > :04:26.health policy, it has liter`lly not progressed in 40 years, where, as
:04:27. > :04:31.many other cancers as you'vd said, have really sprinted forward and
:04:32. > :04:36.cracked the early detection problem. This case is now being investigated,
:04:37. > :04:40.but in the meantime, what would you like to see
:04:41. > :04:43.the medical profession doing to address this lack of understanding
:04:44. > :04:46.seemingly, lack of understanding when it comes to pancreatic cancer?
:04:47. > :04:49.Indeed. Well, Pancreatic Cancer UK has been
:04:50. > :04:52.lobbying for some years now around early diagnosis
:04:53. > :04:56.and detection and we believd that there are a range of things that can
:04:57. > :04:59.be done to address this problem Including raising awareness with
:05:00. > :05:02.primary care professionals `s well as secondary care professionals
:05:03. > :05:06.about the disease and the sxmptoms. But we also believe that GPs
:05:07. > :05:10.in particular could be empowered to better aid them to refer patients
:05:11. > :05:14.more quickly who may go on to be Recently,
:05:15. > :05:19.the Health Secretary announced an idea of naming and shaming
:05:20. > :05:22.doctors who misdiagnosed or missed Indeed, Pancreatic Cancer UK has
:05:23. > :05:30.been calling as well for GPs to undertake annual audits
:05:31. > :05:36.of their cancer referral cases and this is embodied in the proposals
:05:37. > :05:39.that the Health Secretary h`s made. Although we understand that these
:05:40. > :05:45.proposals have some controvdrsy in terms of the medical profession,
:05:46. > :05:49.we support them, we do belidve that Thank you very much indeed
:05:50. > :05:54.for joining us. Tens of millions of pounds `re to be
:05:55. > :06:00.spent creating new businessds The Government's new Growth Deal
:06:01. > :06:05.money will go on a range of schemes from making Bodmin Cornwall's
:06:06. > :06:09.cycling capital, to training the workforce for Somerset's new
:06:10. > :06:12.nuclear power station. Over the next two years, Cornwall
:06:13. > :06:16.is to get nearly ?50 million. Devon and Somerset are
:06:17. > :06:19.to get ?130 million. The number of jobs
:06:20. > :06:25.which it's claimed will be created All of this was announced
:06:26. > :06:36.by the deputy prime minister in Cornwall today, from where
:06:37. > :06:50.our business correspondent Is this government generosity, or
:06:51. > :06:54.small beer? Whether or not he knew it, the vast industrial units Nick
:06:55. > :07:01.Clegg visited today were crdated by the old original than enemy agency,
:07:02. > :07:04.which this government abolished `` the old regional developer `nd
:07:05. > :07:10.agency. We put it to him th`t the new economic bodies they have
:07:11. > :07:14.created, will not have monex on the scale that will be needed to build
:07:15. > :07:18.this kind of facility today. I think they have a lot more freedol, to
:07:19. > :07:25.borrow and raise money, so for example the business rate that at
:07:26. > :07:27.generated by businesses in Cornwall, because of changes that we have made
:07:28. > :07:35.and I have insisted on, half of the and I have insisted on, half of
:07:36. > :07:38.rates will be dispatched in Cornwall, rather than back to the
:07:39. > :07:41.Treasury. When you look at the local economy that has been back on its
:07:42. > :07:46.knees for sale years, more freedom is nowhere near as good as lore
:07:47. > :07:50.money. I strongly disagree with you. At the moment, until we makd this
:07:51. > :07:54.change, there was no incenthve to create business in Cornwall because
:07:55. > :08:00.none of the money generated was kept in Cornwall. Some of the money
:08:01. > :08:03.announced in Cornwall today was already promised, did that lean that
:08:04. > :08:10.the news today was smoke and mirrors? I asked one of the
:08:11. > :08:19.recipients. No, only 10 million was known of 49 million, today. That is
:08:20. > :08:23.20%. Yes, but that idea that we would have got it anyway was not
:08:24. > :08:27.right, we had to write a pl`n and then compete with the other 38 areas
:08:28. > :08:32.for the pool of money and wd have got more than our fair shard. A fair
:08:33. > :08:39.share, but of a pot which is certainly not used to be. `` not
:08:40. > :08:44.what it used to be. In a moment we will hear from the
:08:45. > :08:49.Economist Professor Peter Gripaois with his assessment, but today our
:08:50. > :08:54.political editor is with me today. Behind this is the political
:08:55. > :08:57.battlefield? Yes, as the government was finalising the details of this
:08:58. > :09:01.announcement, Labour was publishing its own grand design and on the face
:09:02. > :09:05.of it, there are a lot of similarities. They both talk about
:09:06. > :09:08.handing powers down from Westminster and Whitehall, and they both
:09:09. > :09:13.commissioned a member of thd house of lords to write a report `bout how
:09:14. > :09:16.this could be achieved, Lord Heseltine from the government, and
:09:17. > :09:22.Lord Adonais from Labour. L`bour think they can offer ?30 billion of
:09:23. > :09:25.funding across the country throughout the next Parliamdnt which
:09:26. > :09:28.they say is three times what the government is putting in. And they
:09:29. > :09:31.say that they would let loc`l authorities keep total revenue from
:09:32. > :09:36.business rates as opposed to just some of it as we had Nick Clegg say
:09:37. > :09:40.in that report. There is a big disagreement over the side of local
:09:41. > :09:47.authorities? This is a long`standing gulf between the coalition parties
:09:48. > :09:50.and labour. In 2010, we had a regional development agency and a
:09:51. > :09:53.regional assembly, a super tear from local covenant, which stretched from
:09:54. > :10:00.Cornwall to Gloucestershire. The government said this was too big and
:10:01. > :10:02.bossy, abolish those and to be left with local authorities and
:10:03. > :10:07.enterprise partnerships which focus on smaller areas. The government
:10:08. > :10:13.says, Labour think that sizd matters. It is not trying to impose
:10:14. > :10:21.the old regional bodies that it is trying to encourage area to combine
:10:22. > :10:25.into city or county regions. This needs to be a bottom`up rather than
:10:26. > :10:31.a top`down approach. We are not being prescriptive in terms of the
:10:32. > :10:33.formation of the new super local authorities or how the enterprise
:10:34. > :10:40.partnerships increase in size, everybody at except `` except that
:10:41. > :10:45.these are far too small. Thdy do not have the capacity and cloud, they
:10:46. > :10:48.are not strategic. The government does not accept that. Less than a
:10:49. > :10:55.year away from a general eldction, which of these visions prev`ils is
:10:56. > :10:59.up for grabs. To Professor Peter Gripaois who is
:11:00. > :11:04.at Plymouth science Park, which is due to benefit from this money. So
:11:05. > :11:07.all the parties involved in the announcement today have madd a
:11:08. > :11:11.determined fist of saying that this is a real boost for economic growth
:11:12. > :11:17.in the region, would you agree with that? Know, if ever there w`s a case
:11:18. > :11:21.of smoke and mirrors, this hs it. Most of the money has come from
:11:22. > :11:24.existing government departmdnts in fact all of it has come frol the
:11:25. > :11:29.transport Department and I think it will be small projects which will
:11:30. > :11:32.not have affect on the economy. How will this compare to the money that
:11:33. > :11:37.we have been offered here in the past? There was a much biggdr
:11:38. > :11:43.allocation in the south`west in total with a regional development
:11:44. > :11:48.agencies, next year is an election year, so there will be a big boost
:11:49. > :11:53.then and then boost the year after that then the money tails off. It is
:11:54. > :11:57.not a major cash injection. Most of it has come from existing government
:11:58. > :12:01.budgets. It is just going to be spent differently, or distrhbuted
:12:02. > :12:05.differently, this time throtgh local authorities and enterprise
:12:06. > :12:08.partnerships. Cornwall has not done relatively well relative to the
:12:09. > :12:12.share of the population of Dngland, it has got a small part of the
:12:13. > :12:16.budget. Devon, Somerset and Dorset have done better. Would you say
:12:17. > :12:22.briefly that we have come off worse compared to other parts of the
:12:23. > :12:25.country? Well, I think all governments look after their own
:12:26. > :12:28.supporters. It seems that rtle areas have done well, which could have
:12:29. > :12:33.someone to do with the fact that they have a big share of
:12:34. > :12:36.conservative and liberal voters Thank you for joining us.
:12:37. > :12:38.Police say a teenager who dhed in Kingsbridge in South Devon
:12:39. > :12:42.suffered a serious wound in the neck possibly caused by a glass bottle.
:12:43. > :12:44.A second man has been arrested in the murder investigation
:12:45. > :12:50.into the death of 17 year old Alex Peguero Sosa on Sunday.
:12:51. > :12:56.All day, they came to remember Alex Peguero Sosa.
:12:57. > :13:03.The words of one memento sahd it all, playing for the dream team now.
:13:04. > :13:08.Another message read simply, love forever, Mum and Dad.
:13:09. > :13:11.It's true, he was a really popular person.
:13:12. > :13:14.I think he deserves all these flowers
:13:15. > :13:25.I've known him since preschool and we were really close.
:13:26. > :13:28.There was one time he came over to my house in primary school,
:13:29. > :13:31.we dressed up as fairies in tutus and he jumped out of the cupboard.
:13:32. > :13:35.And that will always be my favourite memory of him.
:13:36. > :13:37.This afternoon, a specialist police team did a fingertip search
:13:38. > :13:41.at the bus stop where Sundax morning's attack happened.
:13:42. > :13:45.The police say Alex sustaindd a serious wound to the neck
:13:46. > :13:50.which may have been caused by glass, possibly a bottle.
:13:51. > :13:54.Alex was studying English, psychology and PE at Kingsbridge
:13:55. > :13:59.The flag flew at half`mast in tribute.
:14:00. > :14:03.Our message to the students is now is the time for them to comd
:14:04. > :14:07.together, to support one another, for us to act as a communitx and get
:14:08. > :14:14.Police said a second man, aged 22 from Kingsbridge,
:14:15. > :14:18.had been arrested on suspichon of assisting an offender and
:14:19. > :14:24.A 42`year`old man has also been arrested.
:14:25. > :14:33.Both men are being held at Torquay police station.
:14:34. > :14:36.Later in Spotlight, we'll hdar how an endangered species from
:14:37. > :14:40.the other side of the world is being helped by a project in Cornwall
:14:41. > :14:47.The amazing memoir of a Second World War female Spitfire phlot
:14:48. > :14:50.And the cup final beckons for Somerset's visually imp`ired
:14:51. > :14:57.Police are investigating an allegation of fraud
:14:58. > :15:01.in connection with a fund sdt up after the death of a schoolgirl
:15:02. > :15:04.Nicole Hartup died in May after falling from a wall at
:15:05. > :15:08.the Phoenix Youth Centre in Exeter, while watching a football m`tch
:15:09. > :15:10.An internet fundraising pagd set up in her memory said more
:15:11. > :17:00.Jackie actually flew more hours in more planes than anyone dlse
:17:01. > :17:04.She ticked them off in a book, often with pithy comments.
:17:05. > :17:10.A20 havoc, she said, a nice aircraft, except the bits
:17:11. > :17:18.She met her husband in the war and found that flying was a gre`t way to
:17:19. > :17:22.keep romance alive, dropping love notes wrapped in chocolate bars
:17:23. > :17:25.And it would say, whoever finds this, please dat
:17:26. > :17:30.the chocolate, please delivdr the note to Captain Moggridge,
:17:31. > :17:39.By the end of the war, Jackie received the
:17:40. > :17:43.Afterwards, she continued flying for colmercial
:17:44. > :17:48.She was told not to speak over the intercom,
:17:49. > :17:53.her first officer had to spdak for her, because the passengers might be
:17:54. > :18:05.Fittingly, her ashes were scattered over an airfield from the Spitfire
:18:06. > :18:15.An agricultural college in Cornwall is helping to save
:18:16. > :18:19.an endangered species from the other side of the world.
:18:20. > :18:22.The Seychelles millipede is in decline on the Indian Ocdan
:18:23. > :18:27.But Duchy College's Rosewarne campus has succesfully bred hundreds
:18:28. > :18:32.and Spotlight's David Georgd has been to see them.
:18:33. > :18:35.These are probably not the kind of animals you expect to find
:18:36. > :18:41.That's Churchill, the bearded dragon.
:18:42. > :18:45.Locusts, beetles and the sotnd of crickets fills the air.
:18:46. > :18:51.They are in this tank which isn't brilliant for tdlevision
:18:52. > :18:59.It feels like sort of living piece of Velcro going across your hand.
:19:00. > :19:04.In their native Seychelles, these guys are on the vulnerable list
:19:05. > :19:10.They have problems with rats over there eating them.
:19:11. > :19:13.Also traffic and people unfortunately.
:19:14. > :19:17.Because there, as soon as they get on the floor, on the ground,
:19:18. > :19:22.They have found the numbers have deteriorated over time.
:19:23. > :19:25.The first Seychelles millipddes here came
:19:26. > :19:30.The breeding success seems to be down to the habitat.
:19:31. > :19:33.Chemical free peat, freeze sterilised bark
:19:34. > :19:43.People thought they had 1000 legs, but they haven't?
:19:44. > :19:48.A few poor souls have had to count them.
:19:49. > :19:51.They have around 100 to 250, but they have pairs, so each segment
:19:52. > :19:56.And they work in a motion of a Mexican wave.
:19:57. > :20:01.That's a lot of legs. It is!
:20:02. > :20:04.It's no use students and st`ff in this place being afraid
:20:05. > :20:08.I don't mind handling any one of them, to be honest.
:20:09. > :20:11.I was less confident at first but now I've got more confident
:20:12. > :20:16.I can handle different types of creepy crawlies, as you say!
:20:17. > :20:18.Millipedes from Cornwall will now be offered to
:20:19. > :20:22.other breeding programmes across the country and perhaps even sent
:20:23. > :20:39.There's no shortage of volunteers amongst the staff here to t`ke them!
:20:40. > :20:46.I'm I need to follow that up in the Seychelles. I might need code to!
:20:47. > :20:47.Even though I don't like crdepy corgis!
:20:48. > :20:50.A Cornwall golfer has qualified for this month's Open at Hoxlake
:20:51. > :20:54.26 year old Rhys Enoch, who's a life member at Truro Golf
:20:55. > :20:57.Club, makes his debut in thd event which starts in ten days' thme.
:20:58. > :21:00.Rhys was on course to qualify two years ago, but glandular
:21:01. > :21:04.He's attached to the Keltic Manor club in Wales which hosted the
:21:05. > :21:07.Contracts have been signed to turn Truro City's football ground
:21:08. > :21:11.The deal for Treyew Road has been struck between the Southern League
:21:12. > :21:16.club, the current ground owner and developer Helical Retail.
:21:17. > :21:19.It claims the park could brhng in ?16 million and create 140 jobs.
:21:20. > :21:22.Under the deal the firm must develop a new club
:21:23. > :21:29.While Somerset strive for their first ever County
:21:30. > :21:33.Championship cricket title this summer, another of their te`ms is
:21:34. > :21:38.The Somerset visually impaired team has reached the National Cup Final
:21:39. > :21:41.and, as Spotlight's Dave Gibbins reports, their achievement has gone
:21:42. > :21:56.These players proudly represent Somerset can to cricket club.
:21:57. > :22:00.Affiliated to the full`time professional setup in the ground in
:22:01. > :22:03.Taunton, this team do themsdlves justice in another form of the
:22:04. > :22:10.sport. There are three playdrs who are completely blind, the rdst have
:22:11. > :22:16.various levels of sight. How dangerous can these levels of
:22:17. > :22:20.cricket be? To someone like me who has no site, you have got to be
:22:21. > :22:24.around of your Soraya `` aw`re of your surroundings, who is around
:22:25. > :22:28.you, you have got to be judging about the ball and how far `nd high
:22:29. > :22:32.it is, it is a lot of practhce but it is worth it. They had just
:22:33. > :22:39.reached the final of the knockout cup, beating last year's National
:22:40. > :22:43.league, knockout cup and Twdnty 0 winners, Leicestershire. ``
:22:44. > :22:50.Warwickshire. A real feather in the cup as they try to make people aware
:22:51. > :22:53.of their club. People say, xou are silly, how can you play cricket
:22:54. > :22:58.There are some talented plaxers here. But to get noticed is very
:22:59. > :23:05.difficult. We are starting to grow, very slowly. We have come ldaps and
:23:06. > :23:09.bounds over the last two ye`rs. Trying to get our names out there,
:23:10. > :23:12.recruit more players and get interest in the game. There is an
:23:13. > :23:18.international setup for the Blind game. You have one England
:23:19. > :23:21.international? We do, and a few more attending training sessions and
:23:22. > :23:25.hopefully they will get somd recognition for the World Ctp which
:23:26. > :23:29.is in South Africa this year. I haven't a clue where the ball is, I
:23:30. > :23:32.can only hear it through thd bells in the ball which underlines how
:23:33. > :23:42.challenging this format of cricket is for these players. I still in?
:23:43. > :23:47.Yes! Good, I am enjoying thhs! Ie will have another go.
:23:48. > :23:51.Best of luck to them. Time to the weather now. Know whether is sitting
:23:52. > :23:58.at a Washington today, horrhble out there. `` it has not been wdather.
:23:59. > :24:04.We have had sunshine and showers, but not much sunshine, plenty of
:24:05. > :24:11.showers. We will try better for tomorrow. The four ahead, ldt's look
:24:12. > :24:14.back to June and the statistics sent in by Graham from Penzance. How much
:24:15. > :24:19.rainfall we had first of all, because for many of us, it was below
:24:20. > :24:25.average. The average is arotnd 0 millimetres, 63 in Penzance. A bit
:24:26. > :24:29.shy of what we normally expdct. Onto the sunshine, we have had a big
:24:30. > :24:34.difference. For a change, wd have had some summer in the month of
:24:35. > :24:38.June. The average 207 hours, just shy of 300 hours of sunshind. We
:24:39. > :24:43.have done very well for sunshine. Because we have had that, wd have
:24:44. > :24:46.also had higher temperatures. On the left`hand side is the average, on
:24:47. > :24:54.the right`hand side is what we have got for this year. Particul`rly the
:24:55. > :24:59.daytime temperatures, we have had that good temperature. It mhght be
:25:00. > :25:06.worried about the reservoir levels but we had a very wet winter.
:25:07. > :25:12.These. This time last year we were 87% fall, we are currently 83%. No
:25:13. > :25:16.worries with respect to supplies of water. Let's look forward now to the
:25:17. > :25:19.forecast for overnight tonight and tomorrow. We have still got some
:25:20. > :25:25.rain around, it will be trotblesome but for the rest of this wedk, it is
:25:26. > :25:27.a mainly dry story. We have got pleasant sunny spells developing
:25:28. > :25:31.over the next couple of days but the risk of a few showers around, most
:25:32. > :25:43.likely they will be tomorrow. From Wednesday, it is a joy storx. The
:25:44. > :25:47.cloud will be tricky to quantify. The rain band today is moving away
:25:48. > :25:50.from us, a couple of rain sxstems will merge together over thd next 12
:25:51. > :25:55.hours and the whole lot will move away into France. Right conditions
:25:56. > :26:00.tomorrow, average of high pressure coming in to follow that so it
:26:01. > :26:03.should be fine on Wednesday. A lot of sunshine on Wednesday, most of
:26:04. > :26:08.the activity will be on the eastern side of the British Isles. @ few
:26:09. > :26:11.bits more detail, you can sde how extensive the rain was earlher, it
:26:12. > :26:15.is pulling away from Cornwall and the North Devon coast. That will
:26:16. > :26:20.continue overnight. Becoming largely dry, the chance of a few showers
:26:21. > :26:25.overnight. Most of us dry and a bit misty in places. In the countryside
:26:26. > :26:32.we should seek nine or 10 ddgrees. Italy start the day tomorrow. `` a
:26:33. > :26:37.chilly start. Tomorrow, we will see showers but equally some sunny
:26:38. > :26:41.spells. The focus of the showers will be the middle of the afternoon
:26:42. > :26:53.before we see the fading aw`y to give a pleasant end of the day with
:26:54. > :26:55.top temperatures in 19 degrdes. The chance of a shower developing in the
:26:56. > :27:21.afternoon tomorrow. There is the coastal waters
:27:22. > :27:25.forecast. It is promising for the rest of this week. Wednesdax is the
:27:26. > :27:28.best day to see the sunshind, warmer through Thursday and Friday.
:27:29. > :27:32.Increasingly cloudy through the East.
:27:33. > :27:38.Always good to read your colment about your stories in the programme,
:27:39. > :27:44.plenty coming into night. H`ven t looked at our Facebook page to see
:27:45. > :27:45.what other `` have a look at our Facebook page to see what pdople are
:27:46. > :27:46.saying.