:00:14. > :00:18.This is BBC World News Today, with me, Zeinab Badawi and the Sudanese
:00:19. > :00:23.capital, Khartoum, on the eve of independence for the south of the
:00:23. > :00:29.country. What are the prospects for peace and stability for both parts
:00:29. > :00:34.of Sudan? A new anthem foreign you nation. Tough challenges lie ahead
:00:34. > :00:37.for South Sudan, as it is embraces independence in three hours time.
:00:37. > :00:41.And why both as a nurse and northerners are feeling a little
:00:41. > :00:48.apprehensive about the future, it is all too much for this sudden
:00:48. > :00:52.soldier leaving the North. I'm Tim Willcox in London. Our other the
:00:52. > :00:55.headlines. Andy Coulson, the former editor of the News of the World, is
:00:55. > :00:58.arrested on suspicion of phone hacking and corruption as the man
:00:58. > :01:02.who brought him into government launches a judicial inquiry.
:01:03. > :01:07.decision to hire him was mine and mine alone. I take full
:01:07. > :01:10.responsibility for it. revolution part two, the Egyptians
:01:10. > :01:16.return to Tahrir Square cleaning their original demands have not
:01:16. > :01:25.been met. The shoulders of this bailed -- space shuttle, America
:01:25. > :01:35.will continue the dream. Into orbit off, the final launch for NASA's
:01:35. > :01:40.
:01:40. > :01:45.Hello and welcome from Sudan, still only just the largest country in
:01:45. > :01:48.Africa. In three hours time, when the South goes its own way, it will
:01:48. > :01:51.move to number three. These are not celebrations you might be able to
:01:51. > :01:56.hear some music and lights behind me, they're not celebrations for
:01:56. > :02:00.the independence of the cells. It is a wedding going on. The mood
:02:00. > :02:03.here in Khartoum has been fairly subdued, with most Bees pulled
:02:03. > :02:07.expressing their sadness and regret that the south of Sudan is becoming
:02:07. > :02:17.independent. That does not seem to be the case in the south, as Will
:02:17. > :02:22.Ross reports from the capital there, The final march to independence. I
:02:22. > :02:26.will never leave my land until I die, a song heard throughout the
:02:26. > :02:36.decades of war with North Sudan. Now they have their land and south
:02:36. > :02:39.
:02:39. > :02:48.With a little help from a mobile, people rehearse the brand new
:02:48. > :02:52.national anthem. The way of life has not changed much for centuries.
:02:52. > :03:00.Because of the war, South Sudan will start out as one of the
:03:00. > :03:04.poorest nations on the planet. When we were ruled by the north, we had
:03:04. > :03:07.no opportunities, the village chief tells me. Our children could not go
:03:07. > :03:15.to school, but now things are going to change. We are going to see
:03:15. > :03:20.development here. But for now, this is where the money is going. The
:03:20. > :03:23.piece is still on shaky ground and so in the south, three times as
:03:23. > :03:30.much money is spent on the military compared to education and health
:03:30. > :03:34.combined. These are the soldiers of the SPLA, the army that fought for
:03:34. > :03:38.so many years against the Khartoum government. The key question now
:03:38. > :03:46.was so Saddam becomes a new country is can all people with guns stay
:03:47. > :03:50.united, or will different rebel groups pop-up? -- South Sudan. Like
:03:50. > :03:58.this group, but just last week declared war in the south. Where
:03:59. > :04:03.clashes between tribes are common. The border area is rich in oil.
:04:03. > :04:08.EXPLOSION. Just inside the north, President Omar Al-Bashir's
:04:08. > :04:15.warplanes drop bombs to crush a rebellion. The fear is instead of
:04:15. > :04:18.sharing the oil, the two countries will keep fighting for more. We are
:04:18. > :04:23.absolutely committed to peace. Our people have really suffered for too
:04:23. > :04:27.long, 58 years of war. It is in the interests of the North for the
:04:28. > :04:32.South to be in peace with it, for the survival of the two states it
:04:32. > :04:35.is essential factor we maintain two viable states and I think the
:04:35. > :04:44.message is getting through. struggle for Southern independence
:04:44. > :04:50.is over, the struggle for peace is just beginning.
:04:50. > :04:54.And actually, Will Ross, luckily, joins us live from Juba. As I said,
:04:54. > :04:58.there is a marriage going on behind me. When I talk to people here
:04:58. > :05:02.about relations between the north and the South they express it in
:05:02. > :05:06.those terms, saying we are having a divorce now, we really regret it.
:05:06. > :05:12.It is a shame we didn't try harder to keep the marriage going. How are
:05:12. > :05:15.people in the south during their neighbours in the North? -- viewing
:05:16. > :05:19.their neighbours in the North? is very hard to hear you, but I can
:05:19. > :05:24.tell you that people now are marching down the street behind me.
:05:24. > :05:27.There is a party going on here. There is a feeling here are of joy
:05:27. > :05:32.at this split with the North. Many people feel this moment has been
:05:32. > :05:36.coming for years and with just hours to go, they feel that this
:05:36. > :05:42.split is going to lead to a better life ahead for them. There are
:05:42. > :05:46.people waving the South Sudan flag behind me as they walk past. The
:05:46. > :05:50.feeling here really is that there was no effort during the last six
:05:50. > :05:54.years for the marriage between the north and the south to work and
:05:54. > :05:56.that is why they want to break away face stop -- they want to break
:05:56. > :05:59.away. They feel with self governance and breaking away
:05:59. > :06:05.completely from the north they are going to have a better chance to
:06:05. > :06:12.move away from the terrible problems they face. OK, thanks very
:06:12. > :06:15.much indeed. I am in Khartoum, talking to people from the north
:06:15. > :06:19.and the south, because there are about a million southerners, we
:06:19. > :06:23.believe, still living in Khartoum and other parts of the North.
:06:23. > :06:26.Actually the people I have spoken to seem to have more mixed feelings
:06:26. > :06:36.about the future. I have been testing the mood at talking to some
:06:36. > :06:45.
:06:45. > :06:55.Going out not so much with a loud bang as allowed beat. The officers'
:06:55. > :06:55.
:06:55. > :06:58.club in Khartoum. An emotional The Sudanese Defence Minister and
:06:58. > :07:08.the chief of the armed forces bid goodbye to their southern
:07:08. > :07:10.
:07:10. > :07:13.colleagues. TRANSLATION: To be honest with you on this day fruit
:07:13. > :07:17.we feel some sadness, to ludes very good natured colleagues, who in
:07:17. > :07:26.some cases have been with us for decades and have served loyally in
:07:26. > :07:30.the army. They were given this colourful send off. There is
:07:30. > :07:40.clearly joy that the South is embarking on this historic venture,
:07:40. > :07:42.
:07:42. > :07:48.the building of a brand new nation. Iron grateful to be in separation,
:07:48. > :07:53.I will take my freedom. Night -- I have not taken my freedom until now,
:07:53. > :07:56.now I'll take my freedom and I am very grateful. There are about
:07:56. > :08:01.20,000 since then suddenly -- southern Sudanese in the Sudan
:08:01. > :08:05.National Army, about 10%. Behind me, the Air Force. In front of me, the
:08:05. > :08:10.soldiers. This is the last time they will be wearing these uniforms
:08:10. > :08:16.for an official occasion. Many are genuinely reluctant to be leaving
:08:16. > :08:20.Saddam's armed forces. -- Sudan. They face an uncertain future in
:08:20. > :08:25.the south and some of them may choose to remain in the north.
:08:25. > :08:30.have been a soldier since 1982. I was about 19 years old. Quite a
:08:30. > :08:33.change? To become a civilian again is going to be difficult, but
:08:33. > :08:39.eventually every retired soldier has to become a civilian and I am
:08:39. > :08:46.going to be one. Hello, Agnes. Another person forced to give up
:08:46. > :08:50.the much-loved job is Agnes Lekudu. Wonderful to see. I saw you a long
:08:50. > :08:55.time ago. She is one of the most prominent Southern leaders in the
:08:55. > :09:00.north, an adviser to President Bashir she considers him a friend.
:09:00. > :09:03.You are Agnes Lekudu, you are head of the ruling National Congress
:09:04. > :09:08.Party, the NCP, in the whole of the South. In the southern sector.
:09:09. > :09:13.You're going to be out of a job. This is your letter. This is the
:09:13. > :09:17.presidential decree. The presidential decree as saying, I,
:09:17. > :09:26.President Bashir, have decreed on this particular day that the
:09:26. > :09:32.following people will stop their work as from 9th July. The
:09:32. > :09:36.following people are... Including you. Although in theory the
:09:36. > :09:40.southern Sudanese have that transitional period of nine months
:09:40. > :09:43.to relocate to the south, in practice most have already packed
:09:44. > :09:50.up their bags and gone. Though many have complained that they have
:09:51. > :09:54.departed in haste. Most of them have homes which they have sold at
:09:54. > :09:58.a giveaway price, because they wanted to rush. Some of them did
:09:58. > :10:02.not have resources, enough resources to be able to support
:10:02. > :10:07.themselves back home, so they sold homes. Children get sick and so on,
:10:07. > :10:12.some have lost their children. Actually their children died in the
:10:12. > :10:16.journey from Khartoum back to the south? So could the international
:10:16. > :10:20.community have done more to help relocate the southerners? Naturally
:10:21. > :10:26.they would say the UN has not done, the international community has not
:10:26. > :10:29.enough to get us there, but it was a huge, huge and ever. There were
:10:29. > :10:39.hundreds of thousands of southerners actually living in the
:10:39. > :10:41.
:10:41. > :10:47.As the world waits to see if this doesn't have a deep -- the southern
:10:47. > :10:53.Sudanese can turn a concept into a viable, thriving nation, not all,
:10:53. > :10:59.even tougher old soldiers, can remain clear-eyed about the future.
:10:59. > :11:01.Well, that was the officers' club here in Khartoum. So when the South
:11:01. > :11:05.becomes independent in a couple of hours, they will have to redefine
:11:05. > :11:09.their relations with the north, but the international community is also
:11:09. > :11:13.going to have established new relations with South Sudan and the
:11:13. > :11:18.government here in Khartoum. I have been discussing that with European
:11:18. > :11:21.Union's Special envoy to said dam, Dame Rosalind Marsden. She knows
:11:21. > :11:24.Sudan pretty well because she was here as British Ambassador for
:11:24. > :11:29.several years and she told me what she thinks the EU is going to be
:11:29. > :11:33.doing to support both parts of the country. Our main message to both
:11:33. > :11:38.North and South is you have come a long way, now you need to go the
:11:38. > :11:42.extra mile. To resolve these outstanding issues, so you can live
:11:42. > :11:45.together peacefully with good neighbourly relations. You know
:11:45. > :11:49.what President Bashir says here in Khartoum, look, when the South
:11:49. > :11:53.voted for independence people said I would Deeo realism how, I would
:11:53. > :11:58.not back it, yet he says he was the first to support their independence.
:11:58. > :12:02.Does he get any carrots for that? We remain ready to step up our
:12:03. > :12:08.political dialogue with the government of Sudan. We are also
:12:08. > :12:12.committed in the long term to underpin two viable states, both in
:12:12. > :12:19.the north and in the south, but first of all it is very important
:12:19. > :12:25.that we address some of the key outstanding issues. We must not
:12:25. > :12:31.forget Darfur, the European Union is very concerned about security
:12:31. > :12:35.and humanitarian situation in Darfur. We have continued to press
:12:35. > :12:38.for improved humanitarian access, but also for a comprehensive and
:12:38. > :12:42.inclusive peace settlement for Darfur. Let's look at the prospects
:12:42. > :12:47.for the south. What are the potential pitfalls there? There is
:12:47. > :12:51.a huge need for development. There is a huge need for humanitarian
:12:51. > :12:57.assistance and also the need for capacity building. So I think we
:12:57. > :13:01.all recognise the huge nature of the challenges that will be faced
:13:01. > :13:05.by this new state. Lots of people going back, not a great deal for
:13:05. > :13:08.them to go back to, jobs, homes, not much infrastructure. Are they
:13:08. > :13:12.going to get a shock of their lives? I think the positive thing
:13:12. > :13:18.is that the international community is very strongly committed to
:13:18. > :13:23.support the government also that Saddam, to try to deliver a peace
:13:23. > :13:28.dividend to the population -- to South Sudan. To deliver basic
:13:28. > :13:30.services. That is one area where the European Union will scale up
:13:30. > :13:35.development assistance quite considerably. Money is not the
:13:35. > :13:39.problem, is it, by some reckoning it has had as much as $9.5 billion
:13:39. > :13:44.in oil revenues in the past five or six years. But most of that, three-
:13:44. > :13:50.quarters of it, has gone into the pay of the army there.
:13:50. > :13:54.government of South Sudan has had to find a way of paying and
:13:54. > :13:57.supporting the members of the Sudan People's Liberation Army. That is a
:13:57. > :14:04.huge drain on the budget but nevertheless it is an important
:14:04. > :14:07.responsibility. We obviously very much hope that the combination of
:14:07. > :14:10.South Sudan's oil revenue and the development assistance it will be
:14:10. > :14:16.resist -- it will be receiving from the international community, that
:14:16. > :14:19.more of that can go in future to provide a peace dividend to the
:14:19. > :14:26.population. We will be working closely with the government in
:14:26. > :14:29.support of their priorities, to try to help them to deliver that.
:14:29. > :14:35.That was Dame Rosalind Marsden, the EU special envoy to Sudan, talking
:14:35. > :14:38.to me. It is worth remembering as South Sudan stands on the threshold
:14:38. > :14:42.of becoming independent, what a long journey it has been for it.
:14:42. > :14:45.More than five decades of war between north and south, around two
:14:45. > :14:51.million dead, not all in the fighting but also through famine
:14:51. > :14:54.and disease, so clearly a great deal of sad history is behind the
:14:54. > :14:58.momentous celebrations that are going to be taking place in Juba,
:14:58. > :15:01.the southern Sudanese capital. VIPs have been pouring in and some have
:15:01. > :15:05.been coming in through here, Khartoum. President Bashir himself
:15:05. > :15:09.is going to be there, his government has officially
:15:09. > :15:14.recognised the south of Sudan as independent. We will be looking
:15:14. > :15:19.forward to seeing what happens off course to both north and south
:15:19. > :15:28.Sudan, but for the moment, from me, Zeinab Badawi, back to you in the
:15:28. > :15:30.The British Prime Minister's former head of communications, Andy
:15:30. > :15:33.Coulson, was arrested today by police investigating the
:15:33. > :15:36.allegations of phone hacking at the News of the World newspaper. The
:15:36. > :15:39.arrest came as David Cameron was forced to defend his decision to
:15:39. > :15:49.hire Mr Coulson. He also confirmed there will be two inquiries into
:15:49. > :15:53.the scandal - one led by a judge. The phone hacking scandal at the
:15:53. > :15:57.News of the World is not going away. It embraces the press, the police
:15:58. > :16:02.and the politicians. As he tries to fight the damage to his own
:16:02. > :16:07.Government, David Cameron began his press conference with an admission
:16:07. > :16:11.- but the political class could have done more to stop it. Because
:16:11. > :16:15.party leaders were so keen to win the support of newspapers, we
:16:15. > :16:20.turned a blind eye to the need to sort this issue, to get on top of
:16:21. > :16:25.the bad practices to change the way newspapers are regulated. It is, if
:16:25. > :16:29.you like, a bit like MPs' expenses, the people in power knew things
:16:29. > :16:34.were not right, but they did not do enough, quickly enough until the
:16:34. > :16:38.mess of the situation was revealed. But, around the time the Prime
:16:38. > :16:43.Minister was speaking, this former editor of the News of the World was
:16:43. > :16:47.arrested by police. Until January of this year, Andy Coulson was
:16:47. > :16:52.David Cameron's communications gurus. He has always denied any
:16:52. > :16:56.knowledge of the phone hacking. But now the Prime Minister is facing
:16:56. > :17:00.growing calls to explain why he chose to hire a man who once
:17:00. > :17:04.presided at the newspaper. resigned at the News of the World
:17:04. > :17:08.because of the things that happened on his watch. I decided to give him
:17:08. > :17:14.a second chance and no one raise any concerns about how he did his
:17:14. > :17:19.chance for me. He had to resign all over again. The decision to hire
:17:19. > :17:23.him was mine, and mine alone and I take full responsibility for it.
:17:23. > :17:29.for the questions about the position of News International's
:17:29. > :17:33.chief executive in the UK, Mr Cameron said this. On the case of
:17:33. > :17:37.Rebekah Brooks, as I had said, I do not think it is right for the Prime
:17:37. > :17:40.Minister to start picking and choosing who should run and who
:17:40. > :17:44.shouldn't run media organisations. It has been reported she offered
:17:44. > :17:50.her resignation over this and in this situation I would have taken
:17:50. > :17:53.it. David Cameron has done his best to distance himself from this
:17:53. > :17:58.scandal. But questions about his own judgments and friendships
:17:58. > :18:02.continue, especially now some say they warned him years ago about
:18:02. > :18:04.hiring a former News of the World editor.
:18:04. > :18:06.Joining me now from Central London is Professor of Communication,s
:18:06. > :18:14.Steven Barnett, from Westminster University, an expert on media
:18:14. > :18:18.policy and regulation. A watershed moment today, not only for the
:18:18. > :18:23.British press, but perhaps the relationship for the political
:18:23. > :18:28.establishment as well? I would go further, I would say a watershed in
:18:28. > :18:32.British public life. David Cameron's statement is significant,
:18:32. > :18:38.but Ed Miliband, the opposition leader was making similar noises
:18:38. > :18:42.about the way in which senior politicians in this country have
:18:42. > :18:49.simply bowed down to the power of media barons. I have to say some of
:18:49. > :18:54.us have been saying this for many years. It has happened on all sides
:18:54. > :18:59.of the House of Commons. I think what we have seen, is actually
:18:59. > :19:02.quite an important power shift back towards frankly, where power ought
:19:02. > :19:07.to be long which is the elected representatives of this country
:19:07. > :19:10.rather than in the hands of press barons. This idea of self-
:19:10. > :19:17.regulation which the British written media is subjected to under
:19:17. > :19:21.the PCT. It is a busted flush now it is it? The PCT is about as much
:19:21. > :19:24.use as a chocolate teapot. I think the Prime Minister made it clear it
:19:24. > :19:31.is useless and many people have been saying it is useless for some
:19:31. > :19:36.time. The real question now is, what is going to take its place?
:19:36. > :19:40.David Cameron is right to say there has to be an inquiry into the sort
:19:40. > :19:46.of news regulatory system we might see. The real sticking point is
:19:46. > :19:51.going to be to what extent will it be still self-regulatory? Will we
:19:51. > :19:57.be leaving it to the print industry? To what extent will there
:19:57. > :20:00.be some kind of statutory a backstop, maybe a version of Ofcom,
:20:00. > :20:06.which is our communication broadcasting regulator which is set
:20:06. > :20:09.up in statute. It is interesting, the original remit for the decision
:20:09. > :20:14.about whether BSkyB, News International could buy the
:20:14. > :20:19.remaining stake, Ofcom is talking about whether the individual
:20:19. > :20:23.company is fit and proper to own a TV stations. Has that changed in
:20:23. > :20:28.terms of the decision which will be made politically by the Culture
:20:28. > :20:34.Secretary? Let's be clear about this, there are two separate
:20:34. > :20:36.processes. One is the legal process and it is up to the Secretary of
:20:36. > :20:42.State in a quiet side judicial capacity to decide whether this
:20:42. > :20:49.takeover should go ahead or not. He has made it clear and David Cameron
:20:49. > :20:52.has made it clear it will be kicked into the long grass until September.
:20:52. > :20:56.Under the 2003 Communications Act, there is a stipulation the holders
:20:56. > :21:00.of broadcasting licences must be fit and proper people. Her Ofcom
:21:00. > :21:05.are saying they are keeping a close eye on these developments have to
:21:05. > :21:12.see if there is any suggestion those running BSkyB, at the moment
:21:12. > :21:16.those who have at least control of BSkyB, 39%, News Corp are fit and
:21:16. > :21:22.proper people to hold the broadcasting licence. That is a
:21:22. > :21:27.separate process. Turning to tabloid journalism, people have
:21:27. > :21:31.referred to it as gung-ho journalism. When you look back, do
:21:31. > :21:35.you see more could was achieved by that sort of journalism rather than
:21:35. > :21:44.some of the peccadilloes and mistakes of the past few years by a
:21:44. > :21:48.few bad apples? When it comes down to hacking phones of murdered
:21:48. > :21:53.schoolchildren and widowed service wives, it gets beyond peccadilloes.
:21:53. > :21:59.I agree with that, but it is a muscular journalism which other
:21:59. > :22:02.countries do not have? At its best, you are right. We need a system
:22:02. > :22:07.which makes absolutely certain these illegal practices are stopped,
:22:07. > :22:11.but at the same time - there is no reason why you cannot do that and
:22:11. > :22:16.at the same time have a system which encourages robust journalism
:22:16. > :22:19.in the public interest. Thanks very much for joining us.
:22:19. > :22:21.Hundreds of thousands of Egyptians have been out on the streets again
:22:21. > :22:24.today, protesting about the slow pace of political reform. Gathering
:22:25. > :22:26.in Cairo's Tahrir Square and in the cities of Alexandria and Suez, they
:22:26. > :22:36.also demanded that those responsible for killing
:22:36. > :22:41.demonstrators be held accountable. From Cairo, Jon Leyne reports.
:22:41. > :22:46.Once more, they flooded into Tahrir Square. It was the largest
:22:46. > :22:50.demonstrations since crowds unseated President Mubarak five
:22:50. > :22:55.months ago. Since then, Egyptians have become more frustrated about
:22:55. > :22:59.the pace of change. Basic behind- the-scenes, the same old officials
:22:59. > :23:07.are still in control of power centres like the interior ministry.
:23:07. > :23:12.We have been promised as -- promised changes of the interior --
:23:12. > :23:17.Ministry interior. But you days ago we have seen violence, tear gas and
:23:17. > :23:23.rubber bullets. One banner has a caricature of Hosni Mubarak, with
:23:23. > :23:26.the words "we will get you". But what infuriates these protesters is
:23:26. > :23:32.the military rulers seem to be bringing Best dragging their feet
:23:32. > :23:36.in bringing the former President and his inner circle to trial. This
:23:36. > :23:40.hides a growing bitterness among so many Egyptians about the way things
:23:40. > :23:46.are going and that is bad news for those trying to run this country.
:23:46. > :23:50.That anger has already boiled over in the city of Suez, where there
:23:50. > :23:56.were riots after a court freed on bail, policemen accused of shooting
:23:56. > :24:00.dead a protesters. Elsewhere, the complaints are about high food
:24:00. > :24:05.prices and lack of security. Here in Tahrir Square, the police stayed
:24:05. > :24:08.away to avoid trouble. Protesters have about to begin a sit in. It
:24:08. > :24:14.could be the beginning of a new and long confrontation with the
:24:14. > :24:18.military rulers who took over from President Mubarak.
:24:18. > :24:20.Now a look at some of the days other news. Reports from Syria say
:24:20. > :24:22.several people have been killed during renewed anti-government
:24:22. > :24:25.demonstrations. Protestors have again taken to the streets in
:24:25. > :24:27.cities across the country. Reports say that the security services have
:24:27. > :24:30.killed several protestors in the capital, Damascus. A policeman was
:24:30. > :24:33.reportedly killed in Homs. The American and French ambassadors
:24:33. > :24:38.visited the flashpoint city of Hama, where thousands gathered in a city
:24:38. > :24:42.square. The Syrian authorities called the visits an incitement.
:24:42. > :24:45.A Congolese airline has crashed in Kisangani. One report says that
:24:45. > :24:48.there were 112 passengers on board the plane when it came down at the
:24:48. > :24:52.airport there, the third largest city in the Democratic Republic of
:24:52. > :25:02.Congo. A government official is quoted as saying that 40 survivors
:25:02. > :25:04.
:25:04. > :25:10.have been pulled from the plane. The very last space shuttle flight
:25:10. > :25:13.has blasted off from Cape Canaveral. But while they Mission to the
:25:13. > :25:20.International Space Station marks the end of an era for America's
:25:20. > :25:24.manned space programme. Cheers for a moment of history,
:25:25. > :25:28.four astronauts about to fly on the final space shuttle - it is the end
:25:28. > :25:35.of an era. At the launch pad Atlanta's, fuelled and ready, with
:25:35. > :25:44.three hours to go the crew climb inside. The launch is on. Atlanta's
:25:44. > :25:50.does. The shuttles have flown for 30 years, now the last count down.
:25:50. > :25:56.The final lift off of Atlanta's. Even from three miles away it is
:25:56. > :26:05.bright as the shuttle accelerates towards 17,000 miles an hour. An
:26:05. > :26:13.incredible sight and any second now, here comes, you can feel this
:26:13. > :26:18.vibration inside you. Crowds were watching an emotional sight. This
:26:18. > :26:23.meant everything to me. I wanted to see a shuttle launch more than
:26:23. > :26:27.anything. We have come from Virginia, and seeing that made me