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:00:06. > :00:10.This is BBC World News Today with me, Philippa Thomas. "The monster of

:00:10. > :00:14.terrorism is defeated" - the words of Kenya's president, four days

:00:14. > :00:33.Kenyan forces are said to have killed five militants and captured a

:00:33. > :00:39.declared. The criminals find us unafraid, as we shall ever be.

:00:39. > :00:43.A rare glimpse of the attackers themselves. Forensic scientists

:00:43. > :00:46.A rare glimpse of the attackers now determining if any are American

:00:46. > :00:48.descend on the United Nations In New York. Will President Obama have

:00:48. > :00:56.descend on the United Nations In New historic meeting with his Iranian

:00:56. > :00:59.Himalayas to see how pollution from melting the glaciers which help

:00:59. > :01:17.Hello and welcome. Kenya's president Islamist militants who stormed a

:01:18. > :01:26.Nairobi shopping mall have been "shamed and defeated". He says five

:01:27. > :01:29.captured. There is still confusion, though. Kenya's Foreign Minister

:01:29. > :01:42.says that a British woman is among the attackers. Other ministers say

:01:42. > :01:45.six this morning. Some militants were said to be barricaded inside a

:01:45. > :01:49.casino. Others were thought to be holed up in the main supermarket,

:01:49. > :01:55.where fires continued to burn. The flames spread through the building

:01:55. > :02:05.where fires continued to burn. The Andrew Harding reports from Nairobi

:02:06. > :02:16.of us, least of all the affected. Our losses are immense. To the

:02:16. > :02:20.honour and memory of those who lost their lives in this attack, I have

:02:20. > :02:27.declared three days of national mourning, starting tomorrow, during

:02:27. > :02:45.defeated our attackers. That part of half-mast throughout the country.

:02:45. > :02:52.defeated our attackers. That part of our task is being completed by a

:02:52. > :03:08.The Kenyan president speaking there. Room by room, Kenyan troops moving

:03:08. > :03:12.militants, wary of booby-trapped. Here you can just make out a soldier

:03:12. > :03:26.And now, from inside the battle scarred shopping centre, a rare

:03:26. > :03:38.glimpse of the attackers themselves. claimed responsibility for the

:03:38. > :03:42.bloodshed, say it is genuine. A block away, the city is returning to

:03:42. > :03:49.life, many here wondering who is behind the carnage. Someone from

:03:49. > :04:00.information that we have, two or three Americans, and I think so

:04:00. > :04:05.information that we have, two or British-born woman? Yes, I think she

:04:05. > :04:13.That sounds like a reference to Samantha Lewthwaite, the widow of

:04:13. > :04:20.one of the London 7/7 bombers. But evidence she is involved. I heard

:04:21. > :04:27.loud, heavy gunfire. As to whether any women have taken part, this

:04:27. > :04:33.survivor insists he saw one black woman. She had a skirt to just below

:04:33. > :04:39.her knees, a headband. She was throwing a grenade at the cafe.

:04:39. > :04:39.her knees, a headband. She was you sure she was a woman? She looked

:04:39. > :04:47.like a woman. Meanwhile, purses you sure she was a woman? She looked

:04:47. > :04:52.mortuaries are preparing to receive more bodies. There is a deep concern

:04:52. > :04:53.that the death toll from four days of the purist terror could now rise

:04:53. > :05:09.As President Kenyatta declared three promised a full accountability for

:05:09. > :05:13.destruction, death, pain, loss and suffering, more harrowing stories

:05:13. > :05:23.have been emerging about those who were caught up in the shooting.

:05:23. > :05:26.have been emerging about those who The day after the assault. We still

:05:26. > :05:43.father. Jenna and her mother from Jenna Bauer, pictured here with

:05:43. > :05:47.father. Jenna and her mother from British boy was lucky to escape

:05:47. > :05:52.father. Jenna and her mother from sister, being led to safety by their

:05:53. > :05:58.mother. Lindsay Qatar, who lives in Nairobi but is originally from South

:05:58. > :06:27.Wales, was also out doing some outside, just down the steps, and

:06:27. > :06:34.Wales, was also out doing some her not to watch the news. And I saw

:06:34. > :06:40.was talking to her that the man behind her got shot as she was

:06:40. > :06:52.running with the baby. He probably saved her life. Over the past few

:06:53. > :06:55.days, Lindsay and her family had been able to hear the shots and

:06:55. > :06:57.explosions coming from the ongoing security operation at the Westgate

:06:57. > :07:03.Centre nearby. I just want to go home and take my family home. The

:07:03. > :07:07.situation now, the place is unsafe. It is going to happen again. We

:07:07. > :07:11.situation now, the place is unsafe. been warned it is going to happen

:07:11. > :07:17.again. And this time, maybe or maybe not, we will survive it, we might

:07:17. > :07:22.not. After the attack, most of the attention were brought to this

:07:22. > :07:28.hospital just nearby, and also the Amongst them, a number of addition

:07:28. > :07:33.National Civic been caught up in the siege. As well as medical treatment,

:07:33. > :07:33.some of the survivors have been receiving counselling for their

:07:33. > :07:40.trauma. But the Kenya Red Cross receiving counselling for their

:07:40. > :07:51.With me is Raffaello Pantucci, a senior research fellow at the Royal

:07:51. > :07:57.United Services Institute and expert in counter-terrorism. Thank you

:07:57. > :08:01.United Services Institute and expert coming in. We are still not clear

:08:01. > :08:09.about what has happened. But a lot of people were involved in setting

:08:09. > :08:13.information, I see the financial Times is now saying online that

:08:13. > :08:15.information, I see the financial militants had rented a shop in the

:08:15. > :08:23.Westgate mall as part of their planning, and had been smuggling in

:08:23. > :08:27.equipment. Everything we are hearing points to a long planned operation.

:08:27. > :08:32.Clearly an operation of this size and scale is something that requires

:08:32. > :08:36.a lot of reparation ahead of time. To get a cell of six people into

:08:36. > :08:40.this area, to have weapons and enough equipment to be able to

:08:40. > :08:44.sustain themselves for a long period of time, and detailed knowledge

:08:44. > :08:48.sustain themselves for a long period the site itself. This requires

:08:48. > :08:52.reconnaissance trips. So this is probably an operation that was

:08:52. > :09:04.planned for some time. And we know Somalia, but this is also important

:09:04. > :09:20.on the wider stage. There are a been threatening to do this for

:09:20. > :09:22.on the wider stage. There are a is also something Al-Shabab talks

:09:22. > :09:27.about a lot. It talks with the rhetoric of Al-Qaeda. The other

:09:27. > :09:30.element is that within Al-Shabab we have sued been seeing something

:09:30. > :09:35.element is that within Al-Shabab we power struggle happening of late, so

:09:35. > :09:39.it is possible we have seen that a group taking over the organisation

:09:39. > :09:42.is showing that it is running and group taking over the organisation

:09:42. > :10:11.able to conduct these sorts of international attention for days.

:10:11. > :10:18.services involved. It is something we look at Al-Shabab historically,

:10:18. > :10:25.they have previous form with using operations. In modern -- Mogadishu,

:10:25. > :10:28.there was an attack against the Supreme Court by Al-Shabab, and

:10:28. > :10:32.there was a Canadian national used in that. So they do have form of

:10:32. > :10:38.using these people, so it wouldn't be surprising. What you make of

:10:38. > :10:38.using these people, so it wouldn't way the Kenyan government forces

:10:38. > :10:45.have respond -- responded? They way the Kenyan government forces

:10:45. > :10:50.repeatedly declared this to be over when it is not quite. But from what

:10:50. > :10:54.we have seen, what do you make of their handling of this? They are

:10:54. > :10:59.dealing with a difficult and dynamic situation. They had a dedicated

:10:59. > :11:03.dealing with a difficult and dynamic who had been training of this for

:11:03. > :11:06.awhile and hold themselves up in what they saw was an easy place

:11:06. > :11:12.awhile and hold themselves up in secure, and they have hostages as

:11:12. > :11:23.perspective, this is a difficult situation. So they have had to

:11:23. > :11:27.even from what President Kenyatta has been saying, it is possible

:11:27. > :11:31.even from what President Kenyatta is not completely over, maybe some

:11:31. > :11:35.people have slipped out. So I think to do forensic examinations of how

:11:35. > :11:40.they conducted themselves is may be premature. Understood. Thank you for

:11:40. > :11:44.Iran's foreign ministry says the country could be at the beginning of

:11:44. > :11:45.a new era in relations with the West. There are hopes for progress

:11:45. > :11:48.during a meeting at the UN this West. There are hopes for progress

:11:48. > :11:51.about Iran's nuclear programme. West. There are hopes for progress

:11:51. > :11:54.a great deal of talk about whether Iran's new president Hassan Rouhani

:11:54. > :11:58.will meet the US leader Barack Obama - even for a moment, even in private

:11:58. > :12:12.- at some point today. Nick Bryant reports from the UN. The United

:12:12. > :12:22.gathering of over 100 world leaders, whether the length of your motorcade

:12:22. > :12:28.as part of your power. Barack Obama has become more reliant on diplomacy

:12:28. > :12:33.challenges of Syria and Iran. On resolution, enshrining the chemical

:12:33. > :12:39.weapons handover deal agreed with America and Russia. If we cannot

:12:39. > :12:44.agree even on this, then it will show that the United Nations is

:12:44. > :12:48.incapable of enforcing the most basic of international laws. This

:12:48. > :12:54.confronted by an Iranians president, basic of international laws. This

:12:54. > :13:01.walk-outs from the hall. Now a very Matt made Ahmadinejad, promoted

:13:01. > :13:01.walk-outs from the hall. Now a very different leader, Hassan Rouhani, is

:13:02. > :13:26.nuclear programme, that can serve different leader, Hassan Rouhani, is

:13:26. > :13:41.the possibility of a brief encounter towards a different relationship.

:13:41. > :13:41.the possibility of a brief encounter since the 1970s have the leaders of

:13:41. > :13:49.face-to-face. History may be in since the 1970s have the leaders of

:13:49. > :13:56.researcher on Iran at the Carnagie Endowment for International Peace.

:13:56. > :14:04.Washington. Thank you for joining us. President Obama they're saying

:14:05. > :14:09.meaningful agreement. Can we get to a meaningful agreement? What does he

:14:09. > :14:15.mean by that? Meaningful agreement would mean Iran making meaningful

:14:15. > :14:17.compromises on its nuclear programme in terms of capping its production

:14:17. > :14:26.exhibiting greater transparency in terms of capping its production

:14:26. > :14:30.exchange for meaningful sanctions relief from the United States, from

:14:30. > :14:34.the European Union and the United Nations. And what would leader to

:14:34. > :14:39.this would be some sort of meeting between the two leaders today, a

:14:39. > :14:41.feeling that everything is in play again. So even though we won't get a

:14:41. > :14:47.photograph, how important would again. So even though we won't get a

:14:47. > :14:52.a brief meeting be? If there is again. So even though we won't get a

:14:52. > :14:59.handshake or a meeting, it would significant diplomatic encounters

:14:59. > :15:05.between Washington and ter an since the 1979 revolution. I would make

:15:05. > :15:12.the argument that there has never be four been an administration in

:15:12. > :15:24.diplomacy with Iran than President secretary John Kenny -- John Kerry.

:15:24. > :15:31.And in Iran we have never had a group more amenable to diplomacy to

:15:32. > :15:43.Rouhani and his Foreign Minister. So opportunity which both sides are

:15:43. > :15:48.trying to seize. It could be that President Rouhani is being led to

:15:48. > :15:50.economic situation in Iraq. Does it matter what the motivation is as

:15:50. > :15:59.long as there is a result? That matter what the motivation is as

:15:59. > :16:02.Rouhani's mandate was to assure matter what the motivation is as

:16:02. > :16:03.well-being of Iranians citizens matter what the motivation is as

:16:03. > :16:08.reducing international sanctions. In order to do that, it would require a

:16:08. > :16:23.nuclear deal. The big question here President Rouhani. There is a lot of

:16:23. > :16:30.other actors at play here, including the US Congress, which would have to

:16:30. > :16:33.relief, Ayatollah, nay, the supreme leader who has long been cynical of

:16:33. > :16:45.with Obama and President Rouhani. leader who has long been cynical of

:16:45. > :17:14.discussions. This is probably the are quartered. There must be lively

:17:14. > :17:16.discussions. This is probably the in the last 50 years since the

:17:16. > :17:25.discussions. This is probably the revolution. I would describe it

:17:25. > :17:29.discussions. This is probably the think anyone necessarily thinks

:17:30. > :17:33.discussions. This is probably the overnight, but never before had

:17:33. > :17:36.discussions. This is probably the path towards some type of peace

:17:36. > :17:40.presented itself and I think the Obama Administration is taking it

:17:40. > :17:46.very seriously and they wanted to resolve. Thank you. Let's give you a

:17:46. > :17:53.brief look at some of the day's other news. Russian prosecutors

:17:53. > :17:55.brief look at some of the day's charged with piracy, a charge that

:17:55. > :17:59.carries a jail term of up to 15 years. The campaigners have been

:17:59. > :18:04.detained since their protest last Thursday. Two activists tried to

:18:04. > :18:08.platform in a protest against oil Lawyers for four men sentenced to

:18:08. > :18:13.death for raping and murdering a young woman on a Delhi bus have

:18:13. > :18:16.convictions. All death penalty cases in India must be confirmed by a

:18:16. > :18:20.higher court. It could take weeks or arguments, review evidence and

:18:20. > :18:30.consider the appeals before deciding whether to confirm the execution

:18:30. > :18:34.A powerful earthquake has struck the people. The quake was felt as far

:18:34. > :18:38.away as Karachi, forcing people people. The quake was felt as far

:18:38. > :18:48.Geological Survey measured the tremor at a magnitude of 7.4. The

:18:48. > :18:52.devastating suicide bombing at an Anglican church in Pakistan on

:18:52. > :18:56.Sunday, in which more than 80 people died, has led many to question the

:18:56. > :19:01.government's policy of trying to start a dialogue with the Taliban.

:19:01. > :19:11.In this report, a BBC reporter looks at the debate on how to bring an end

:19:11. > :19:19.In one violent moment, this family was torn apart. This Christian that

:19:19. > :19:25.lost six relatives in the attack on the church. TRANSLATION: There is no

:19:25. > :19:40.substitute for the brothers I lost. families here dealing with their

:19:40. > :19:44.sudden losses. Over 80 people are now known to have died when two

:19:44. > :19:47.suicide bombers blew themselves now known to have died when two

:19:47. > :19:51.amongst the congregation that had just finished Sunday Mass here.

:19:51. > :19:58.Christian protesters have since directed at the authorities are

:19:58. > :20:02.Christian protesters have since giving them protection but also

:20:02. > :20:02.Christian protesters have since politicians who have been calling

:20:02. > :20:16.TRANSLATION: The Prime Minister politicians who have been calling

:20:16. > :20:32.thousands of civilians and soldiers preparing ground for dialogue with

:20:32. > :20:38.thousands of civilians and soldiers violence, they feel here is that

:20:39. > :20:53.position. Whether it is Christians this country is still grappling

:20:53. > :20:53.position. Whether it is Christians of tiny cooking stoves in Pakistan,

:20:53. > :21:00.Bangladesh and India is causing of tiny cooking stoves in Pakistan,

:21:00. > :21:03.UN's climate panel - meeting in Stockholm - will say soot in the

:21:03. > :21:10.smoke darkens white glaciers, making them absorb more heat. Campaigners

:21:10. > :21:15.promote the use of new clean cooking protect millions of people from

:21:15. > :21:27.promote the use of new clean cooking disease. Our environment analyst,

:21:27. > :21:34.The Himalayas. People have had an centuries. No pollution is changing

:21:35. > :21:40.the landscape here. By heating the claimant. We travelled far into

:21:40. > :21:46.the landscape here. By heating the mountains to see how global warming

:21:46. > :21:53.is melting glaciers. We have come to join this scientist on a trek to a

:21:53. > :21:56.certain glacier. There it is, in the windswept distance, at 17,000 feet,

:21:56. > :22:00.a great slab of ice clinging to windswept distance, at 17,000 feet,

:22:00. > :22:07.mountain. The doctor and details to a satellite map of the glacier

:22:07. > :22:10.valley. All glacier is grow in winter but received in summer but he

:22:10. > :22:20.can tell from rock deposits that this glacier is shrinking overall

:22:20. > :22:26.deposits on the left bank and the right bank. These are deposits which

:22:26. > :22:31.have been left by the glacier after it has melted. We approached the

:22:31. > :22:37.glacier's gleaming snout, full of dust and rock. Scientists say the

:22:37. > :22:41.worldwide are shrinking like this and will continue to recede if

:22:41. > :22:48.greenhouse gases heat the planet as predicted. It matters. Here is why.

:22:48. > :22:54.Glacier is like this one further throughout the summer, precious

:22:54. > :22:57.water that is used for people to irrigate their fields. There is

:22:57. > :23:03.millions of people across northern India who depend on meltwater from

:23:04. > :23:07.the glacier 's. In the nearby town, they relied on clay seal meltwater

:23:07. > :23:14.to swell the famous apples during the dry season. The traders say

:23:14. > :23:20.to swell the famous apples during the glacier is disappear, their

:23:20. > :23:24.crops will suffer. Now scientists have identified a new threat to

:23:24. > :23:31.glaciers, smoke, the filthy smoke pollution cloud, stretching across

:23:31. > :23:39.the cloud fall on glacier 's and the Himalayas. City particles from

:23:39. > :23:43.the cloud fall on glacier 's and turn them darker, that makes them

:23:43. > :24:03.who cannot afford a modern cooker. well as the environment. This woman

:24:03. > :24:05.who cannot afford a modern cooker. TRANSLATION: The mud store turns my

:24:05. > :24:12.who cannot afford a modern cooker. house or lack, it makes me cough,

:24:12. > :24:19.Their neighbour purchased his four daughters a new clean stove as part

:24:19. > :24:22.of a British government aid scheme. He can protect women and glacier is

:24:22. > :24:39.from cooking smoke if there is a will. The picture on global climate

:24:39. > :24:49.sign that things will improve. about endangered species that we all

:24:49. > :24:55.baby pandas in China will make many animal lovers very happy. The cubs

:24:55. > :25:05.were shown to the public at the Chengdu Giant Panda Breeding Base.

:25:05. > :25:09.Tiny and clinging to survival, just being born is a triumph for these

:25:09. > :25:15.pandas. 14 new arrivals in the past three months. At ten's giant Reading

:25:15. > :25:17.Centre in Chengdu, this year has been the most successful in two

:25:17. > :25:23.decades. They were all conceived artificially, pandas are notoriously

:25:23. > :25:28.bad at reproducing Natalie. It is Another, their habitat is shrinking,

:25:28. > :25:33.even here in the high mountains Another, their habitat is shrinking,

:25:33. > :25:42.Sichuan, you cannot escape the population. Tourists come by the

:25:42. > :25:57.millions and do not see any pandas. All that remains are the souvenirs

:25:57. > :26:01.animals in zoos. And only one panda born in captivity has ever been

:26:01. > :26:05.taken to the wild and reintroduced successfully. So China's breeding

:26:05. > :26:11.programme is not going to repopulate its parts with pandas. What it does

:26:11. > :26:17.do is keep the species alive and earn China a lot of money. To hire a

:26:17. > :26:23.pair of growing pandas, a zoo like per year, so these new arrivals

:26:23. > :26:31.pair of growing pandas, a zoo like extremely valuable. No wonder they

:26:31. > :26:39.Just to remind you of our main news. Kenya's president said the Nairobi

:26:40. > :26:45.completed. He has declared three days of national mourning. At least

:26:45. > :26:49.including five militants, 11 others, he says, are in custody. That is all