:00:00. > :00:09.This is BBC World News Today with me, Philippa Thomas.
:00:10. > :00:15.And exclusive investigation into the British link to Al-Shabab. The BBC
:00:16. > :00:19.uncovers the identity of around 50 Britons with links to the Al
:00:20. > :00:23.Qaeda-affiliated group. What threat do these people post here and
:00:24. > :00:27.abroad? The hunt goes on for the real
:00:28. > :00:31.parents of the Roma girl named Maria, as it's revealed another girl
:00:32. > :00:35.in Ireland does belong to her parents.
:00:36. > :00:39.Also coming up - the Pope takes the shine out of the man dubbed the
:00:40. > :00:44.Bishop of Bling. The German Catholic is suspended over allegations of
:00:45. > :00:49.excessive spending. And christening for a future King - of private
:00:50. > :01:04.services held in London for the three-month-old Prince George.
:01:05. > :01:06.Hello and welcome. The BBC has established the
:01:07. > :01:13.identities of 47 people from Britain who have links to the militant
:01:14. > :01:16.organisation Al-Shabab. The group, based in Somalia, has claimed
:01:17. > :01:22.responsibility for the Westgate massacre in neighbouring Kenya last
:01:23. > :01:26.month. Lawyers for the family of one British member are investigating
:01:27. > :01:32.claims he was killed in a raid involving British military
:01:33. > :01:35.personnel. Al-Shabab is a militant organisation
:01:36. > :01:39.with links to Al-Qaeda. In a propaganda video released last
:01:40. > :01:43.week, there was praise Roger had is said to have travelled from the UK
:01:44. > :01:53.to Somalia to fight and die Al-Shabab. Jihadistss. Among them,
:01:54. > :02:01.this man. He talks about his roots in Tower Hamlets. The people of
:02:02. > :02:10.Tower Hamlets, I call on you to come for jihad. The BBC has established
:02:11. > :02:14.this man's real name. In 2008, he left the UK to travel to Somalia. He
:02:15. > :02:20.fought with Al-Shabab for four years. In 2012 he was killed. His
:02:21. > :02:25.death has been confirmed by the foreign office. In Tower Hamlets we
:02:26. > :02:30.have spoken to a former schoolmates of the man. He was aware of his
:02:31. > :02:36.transition from teenage gang member to political extremist. He does not
:02:37. > :02:41.want to be identified. In gang culture, street cred is what gives
:02:42. > :02:48.you self-worth. So for someone who has got lots of releases --
:02:49. > :02:54.religious zeal and passion, to go and fight on a battlefield that
:02:55. > :03:06.would be the ultimate street cared. -- street cred. There are Somalia by
:03:07. > :03:11.witnesses who identified those involved as British personnel. For
:03:12. > :03:17.those reasons we think that further enquiries need to be made, the
:03:18. > :03:24.family has lived omitted -- legitimate questions that need to be
:03:25. > :03:30.answered. His former schoolmates as reflecting on his death. Many think
:03:31. > :03:35.he wasted his life. What did he achieve? What did he get out of it
:03:36. > :03:41.at the end of the day? Some of us think he was used. Many Britons who
:03:42. > :03:50.go abroad as to how deeply Mac are never heard of again. -- as
:03:51. > :03:55.jihadistss. Richard Barrett is a former head of
:03:56. > :04:00.counterterrorism at MI6 and the UK. He is now senior vice president of
:04:01. > :04:04.the Soufan private security group and joins me from New York. Welcome
:04:05. > :04:12.to World News Today. We are looking at perhaps around 50 Somalis here in
:04:13. > :04:17.Britain or British Somalis. We should not assume this is a network
:04:18. > :04:21.or an organisation of course. Yes, I think people will go to Somalia
:04:22. > :04:25.because they are in contact with someone else. Just to turn up would
:04:26. > :04:32.be difficult, although theoretically you could go to Kenya and across the
:04:33. > :04:38.border. Other areas like Syria, it would be more likely that people go
:04:39. > :04:46.as individuals. When the security services are trying to uncover these
:04:47. > :04:51.identities, how extensive is that surveillance likely to be? I think
:04:52. > :04:56.the concern is what I these people going to do if they come back.
:04:57. > :05:00.People going to Somalia, if they get involved in something like the
:05:01. > :05:04.Westgate shopping centre should elect last month, that is serious.
:05:05. > :05:08.There have been few examples of foreign fighters going to Somalia
:05:09. > :05:14.and engaging in terrorism. In Westgate, I do not know they were
:05:15. > :05:20.foreigners. In Syria there is more of a risk that those who have gone
:05:21. > :05:32.there are -- may come back and cause problems in the UK. You have
:05:33. > :05:38.extensive experience as the former coordinator of the UN's Al-Qaeda and
:05:39. > :05:42.Taliban monitoring group. Either lessons from that work that can be
:05:43. > :05:49.drawn or can be useful now as you look at the young men going to fight
:05:50. > :05:58.in Syria? I think certainly, yes. Syria and Somalia are not the only
:05:59. > :06:02.two fronts. There are other areas that attracts people from Europe and
:06:03. > :06:09.the UK. The things that we learned is that if you can keep sharing
:06:10. > :06:14.information with your colleagues, you can make an assessment if they
:06:15. > :06:18.will be a problem when they come back. It is quite time-consuming and
:06:19. > :06:24.difficult, I have to say. I wanted to ask you how much further it goes
:06:25. > :06:33.than online surveillance. Our families, educational institutions,
:06:34. > :06:39.mosques, IV tractors wealth West remark -- are the tract as well
:06:40. > :06:45.There is a lot lot of online surveillance that can be done.
:06:46. > :06:49.Ultimately, I think any successful counterterrorism policy has engaged
:06:50. > :06:55.the local community. It is the people in the local community in --
:06:56. > :07:04.that'll know if someone has gone off to fight somewhere. And if they will
:07:05. > :07:12.pursue a political agenda in their home country. Goods relations and
:07:13. > :07:20.good interaction with the schools and mosques, that is the way
:07:21. > :07:23.forward. Thank you for joining us. We are going to bring you some
:07:24. > :07:28.breaking news, the German authorities say the suspect that US
:07:29. > :07:33.intelligence agencies may have been spying on Chancellor
:07:34. > :07:37.Anglo-American's mobile phone calls. She has spoken to President Obama
:07:38. > :07:43.asking for immediate clarification about what has happened or what
:07:44. > :07:47.could still be happening. Let's get some more from our correspondent who
:07:48. > :07:52.is in Washington. We are just getting this news through. What more
:07:53. > :07:56.can you tell us? The news has come from Merlin, the German Chancellor
:07:57. > :08:04.rang President Obama to complain about these reports, that her mobile
:08:05. > :08:08.phone has been eavesdropped upon by the National Security Agency. It is
:08:09. > :08:14.not sure where these allegations have come from, there is a strong
:08:15. > :08:17.suspicion that it has come from a German magazine that has been
:08:18. > :08:22.publishing a lot of these revelations. She told President
:08:23. > :08:28.Obama that she wanted immediate clarification. That news broke as
:08:29. > :08:37.the White House was holding its daily briefing. Mr Carney was asked
:08:38. > :08:42.why -- what the response was. He -- she said that President Obama
:08:43. > :08:47.assured them that they are not monitoring her mobile phone. When
:08:48. > :08:51.asked if some of her communications had been intercepted as part of a
:08:52. > :08:59.broader sweep, he did not answer that question. This comes on the
:09:00. > :09:04.back of some French anger about diplomats communications being
:09:05. > :09:08.intercepted. There is some European touchiness now about the NSA or
:09:09. > :09:14.other US authorities playing fast and loose with their privacy? There
:09:15. > :09:17.is. There is some Latin American touchiness as well. Germany adds to
:09:18. > :09:27.this that started with France. President Obama had a conversation
:09:28. > :09:33.with the French pack -- president. He spoke about this allegation that
:09:34. > :09:48.was published on the front page of a local newspaper. It included not
:09:49. > :09:53.only people involved in terrorist activities as. By the NSA, but those
:09:54. > :10:00.in the political community. There have been angry complaints as well
:10:01. > :10:04.from Mexico and Brazil, the former Mexican president was believed to
:10:05. > :10:10.have been eavesdropped upon. So too was the Brazilian president. She
:10:11. > :10:16.actually cancelled a trip to Washington as a result and lectured
:10:17. > :10:19.America. There really is a very serious diplomatic backlash now
:10:20. > :10:27.emerging because of these revelations. Thank you very much.
:10:28. > :10:30.Italy is to push for an overhaul of Europe's asylum laws when a meeting
:10:31. > :10:35.of the European Council gets underway tomorrow. Italy is a key
:10:36. > :10:39.destination for migrants crossing the Mediterranean and all this week
:10:40. > :10:43.we have been telling some of their stories. Reports of trace the path
:10:44. > :10:46.through North Africa and the danger is generally across the
:10:47. > :10:53.Mediterranean to ports such as Lampedusa and then further north
:10:54. > :10:55.will stop but where do they end up? In 2012 most asylum applications
:10:56. > :11:00.were received in Germany and France was reading just behind. The BBC's
:11:01. > :11:03.Chris Morris has been to Stockholm to find out why.
:11:04. > :11:09.At the end of a long journey, new arrivals in Sweden from Syria. This
:11:10. > :11:15.is a migrant reception centre where fingerprints taken and asylum claims
:11:16. > :11:19.are assessed. Numbers having creased dramatically since Sweden announced
:11:20. > :11:24.last month Syrians seeking asylum would be given permanent rights of
:11:25. > :11:30.residence. No other EU country offers that. We are just looking for
:11:31. > :11:37.somewhere safe and the only safe place in Sweden. I decided to leave
:11:38. > :11:42.Syria because it is becoming more dangerous. This man got here on
:11:43. > :11:48.Sunday after a two-week journey from Syria via Turkey and Greece. It was
:11:49. > :11:53.not cheap. He wants to remain anonymous as he waits for a news
:11:54. > :12:00.about his family. After two months they will give me a presidential --
:12:01. > :12:05.residential permit. After that I can apply for my family full top after
:12:06. > :12:12.two months they will be here. And then you start a whole new life in
:12:13. > :12:15.Sweden? Yes, hopefully. We are looking for peace and this is a
:12:16. > :12:19.peaceful country full. Anyone getting here and gaining permanent
:12:20. > :12:24.residents can bring their dependents officially from Syria, making Sweden
:12:25. > :12:31.Europe's most sought-after destination. For us when we take the
:12:32. > :12:36.decision it is legal. It is easy if you want children to reunite with
:12:37. > :12:42.their parents, it is a moral question, so I think there is a
:12:43. > :12:46.great need for European solidarity as well. At the Swedish parliament
:12:47. > :12:51.there is strong backing for this generous policy. But from a far
:12:52. > :12:57.right party, there is criticism We think it is Riddick jewellers. No
:12:58. > :13:06.conflict is permanent. -- ridiculous. This is totally crazy.
:13:07. > :13:13.But Syrians are starting to put down Swedish roots. Here in learning the
:13:14. > :13:18.language at a local community centre. There are still huge
:13:19. > :13:23.concerns about family back home Understandably only few are willing
:13:24. > :13:28.to be filmed. This man is worried about is the own sake, hoping soon
:13:29. > :13:39.to bring her to safety. If we get married, I think she will come here.
:13:40. > :13:43.That is your plan? Yes. Sweden has a long tradition of offering asylum
:13:44. > :13:46.and it has already taken in more Syrian refugees than any other
:13:47. > :13:51.country in the EU full up when you look at the total numbers that have
:13:52. > :13:55.reached Europe, it is little more than a drop in the ocean. There will
:13:56. > :14:05.be many more to come and Europe needs a policy to deal with them.
:14:06. > :14:08.We can speak to EU home affairs spokesman Michele Cercone who joins
:14:09. > :14:13.us now from Brussels. Thank you for being with us. It is the eve of an
:14:14. > :14:16.important summit and do you think we will see the start of a change in
:14:17. > :14:27.policy towards illegal migrants and asylum seekers? We hope that from
:14:28. > :14:33.the council we will see a clear signal for EU solidarity and
:14:34. > :14:38.support. Of course the European Council is the gathering of EU
:14:39. > :14:43.leaders and they are usually there for giving political input. So I do
:14:44. > :14:47.not think it will be expected, concrete or detailed measure
:14:48. > :14:52.decisions. But we hope that the political input would be to words
:14:53. > :14:57.direction that would be commissioned has already pointed out, especially
:14:58. > :15:06.the more surveillance to save lives in the Mediterranean. And more
:15:07. > :15:09.dialogue and cooperation with countries of origin and transit of
:15:10. > :15:15.the migrants and silence seekers that would on one hand better fight
:15:16. > :15:21.the smugglers behind these deadly journeys and to also open up more
:15:22. > :15:27.channels for regular migrations -- asylum seekers. You talk about the
:15:28. > :15:30.Borders agency, Frontex, it has seen its budget slashed in the last two
:15:31. > :15:37.years. Is that technology is being our mistake? We have been very clear
:15:38. > :15:45.in the fact that there were more and more requests for Frontex to help
:15:46. > :15:55.and support member states. This means that if the EU is asking the
:15:56. > :16:03.European commission to do more, we will reiterate our request to all
:16:04. > :16:09.member states at the next council in the beginning of December to make
:16:10. > :16:15.resources available for this big operation that could prevent deaths
:16:16. > :16:22.and the Mediterranean and could save many lives. There has been a
:16:23. > :16:26.powerful statement from the Italian prime ministers this week, saying
:16:27. > :16:32.that the European Union's immigration policies are not
:16:33. > :16:35.adequate. Do you think that among all the leaders, there is a
:16:36. > :16:39.recognition that there should be more of a share of the burden,
:16:40. > :16:52.taking the burden from countries like Italy, Greece and Malta to ?
:16:53. > :17:00.Southern countries are under the pressure of immigration. They need
:17:01. > :17:06.to take management of their borders. If they talk about EU policies, we
:17:07. > :17:11.can say that as for asylum, we have the just defined and agreed a new
:17:12. > :17:23.common European system that aims at giving refuge -- refugees and asylum
:17:24. > :17:32.a uniform approach. At the same time, we certainly have to do more
:17:33. > :17:41.to try and define a common migration Odyssey, which is the area where
:17:42. > :17:46.more is to be done. Thank you. Almost inevitably, he has been named
:17:47. > :17:54.the Bishop of Bling. The leading Catholic Church men who racked up a
:17:55. > :18:10.bill in Germany. Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst spent $20,000 on a bust of
:18:11. > :18:14.and $34,000 on a conference table. In Germany, they call him the Bishop
:18:15. > :18:21.of Bling or sometimes the Bishop of luxury. Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst
:18:22. > :18:27.is accused of spending more than 31 million euros on renovating his
:18:28. > :18:33.official residence. Now Pope Francis has stepped in. The tone of the new
:18:34. > :18:41.papacy is humility and reaching out to the poor and the German bishop
:18:42. > :18:47.has fallen foul of that. The Vatican spokesman says in the dioceses at
:18:48. > :18:53.the present time, a situation has been created web Bishop Franz-Peter
:18:54. > :18:59.Tebartz van Elst is not able to carry out his Episcopal Ministry.
:19:00. > :19:03.The length of the suspension has not been made public. In Germany, many
:19:04. > :19:10.Catholics issue that the issue of Limburg will not return to his post
:19:11. > :19:16.will stop outside the cathedral people expect some sad is action
:19:17. > :19:22.that he had been suspended. -- some satisfaction. This man said that he
:19:23. > :19:28.is glad there was a decision and some calm had returned. He said the
:19:29. > :19:35.bishop cannot return, too much damage had been done. He said that
:19:36. > :19:40.he has done too much damage here, everyone agreed.
:19:41. > :19:50.The Catholic Church has been rocked by scandal before, due to
:19:51. > :19:57.allegations of sexual abuse. Franz-Peter Tebartz van Elst has
:19:58. > :20:03.denied any wrongdoing but his spending does not fit in under the
:20:04. > :20:14.austerity of the new Pope and of the world as is a whole.
:20:15. > :20:24.DNA results have confirmed that a girl taken from a Roma couple in
:20:25. > :20:31.Dublin is their daughter, whereas the girl named Maria taken from
:20:32. > :20:41.another couple in Greece is not This has raised issues of missing
:20:42. > :20:51.children but also of anti-Roma prejudice. What is your view of what
:20:52. > :20:54.is happening in Europe? At the European Roma Rights Centre,
:20:55. > :20:58.we are concerned at the way this is being reported. We are concerned
:20:59. > :21:02.that one individual case, we don't even know the facts yet is being
:21:03. > :21:11.used to tarnish the entire Roma community. What assumptions are
:21:12. > :21:13.being wrongly or prematurely made? These are age-old assumptions about
:21:14. > :21:22.the way Roma families work, about the fact that... The idea that Roma
:21:23. > :21:29.children trafficked their own Jordan -- their own children but there is
:21:30. > :21:36.never a direct link between ethnicity and criminality. When you
:21:37. > :21:42.look at the idea that a child is found with people who make made up
:21:43. > :21:47.not be their own parents, is it contrary to the case that children
:21:48. > :21:51.go and stay with friends and extended family? Are the
:21:52. > :22:00.explanations that are more forthcoming to you? This is true in
:22:01. > :22:05.any society. In all societies. But they Roma society can be more
:22:06. > :22:10.mobile. That may be the case will stop but there is nothing specific
:22:11. > :22:14.about how the Roma treat their Jordan. They are the same as
:22:15. > :22:17.everyone else and they find solutions for looking after
:22:18. > :22:22.children. It is true that in Roma society there is a very strong
:22:23. > :22:32.importance placed on the family Family is key. Certainly, a lot of
:22:33. > :22:35.Roma people in Europe are in dire conditions and family is what helped
:22:36. > :22:40.keep them going. It is the same for any community. When a child needs to
:22:41. > :22:46.be looked after, the community steps in. We have heard about Roma in
:22:47. > :22:49.Greece and Ireland in recent days but you are in touch with
:22:50. > :22:55.communities across Europe. Is there a sense of fear now? There is. What
:22:56. > :22:59.we are hearing frightening stories. We have heard about one case in
:23:00. > :23:06.Serbia where there were skinheads threatening a family, saying they
:23:07. > :23:14.have a child that did not look like them. They would take them away We
:23:15. > :23:18.have heard of a right-wing group in Germany, saying that the children
:23:19. > :23:22.should be taken away. It is not necessary. This taking one case and
:23:23. > :23:26.generalising seems to be something that is quite specific to the Roma
:23:27. > :23:30.community. It is unfair and puts people in fear that they will not be
:23:31. > :23:37.able to continue to lead their family lives. Thank you.
:23:38. > :23:43.Let us take a look at another news story. Russian news agency have
:23:44. > :23:49.reported that parity judges have been dropped against 30 Greenpeace
:23:50. > :23:53.activists arrested after protesting against oil drilling in the Arctic.
:23:54. > :24:03.The group will instead face the less serious charge of hooliganism.
:24:04. > :24:06.He is set to spend a lot of his life attending official ceremonies and
:24:07. > :24:15.today he attended his first. It was the christening of Prince George at
:24:16. > :24:19.St James's Palace in London. He is three months and one-day-old.
:24:20. > :24:22.It was his big day. He first so many. Not that will remember
:24:23. > :24:26.anything. Around the third in line to the throne were the second in
:24:27. > :24:36.line to the throne, his father Prince William. The first in line to
:24:37. > :24:44.the throne, Prince Charles. And the Queen. A proud great-grandmother
:24:45. > :24:50.dressed in blue. Catherine's family were also there, Michael and Karen
:24:51. > :24:55.Middleton and Pippa Middleton and James Middleton. There were seven
:24:56. > :25:02.godparents, only one from William's family, Zara Tindall. Two
:25:03. > :25:07.significant choices, the man on the right here, a former SAS officer who
:25:08. > :25:15.became William's private secondary in 2005 and two has been a source of
:25:16. > :25:23.valuable advice. And the patron of a child breathe and charity and a
:25:24. > :25:34.friend of Princess Diana, a key choice for William.
:25:35. > :25:40.It was here that Diana's Coffin rested before her burial. The
:25:41. > :25:43.service is taking place behind those windows and is now entirely private.
:25:44. > :25:48.There will be no visual record of it at all.
:25:49. > :25:52.After the service, the Queen led the principal guests to another room so
:25:53. > :25:55.photographs could be taken. They will be released tomorrow night As
:25:56. > :25:59.for George, he seems to be taking it all very calmly, dressed in a
:26:00. > :26:04.replica of a christening gown using the reign of Queen Victoria, a young
:26:05. > :26:13.prince who will take the monarchy on towards the 22nd century.
:26:14. > :26:16.Just remind you of our breaking news. The White House says President
:26:17. > :26:20.Obama has told the German Chancellor Angela Merkel that the Americans are
:26:21. > :26:24.not monitoring her communications. The German government had earlier
:26:25. > :26:31.said it suspected US intelligence agencies could have been spying on
:26:32. > :26:35.her mobile phone calls. Mrs Merkel spoke to President Obama today and
:26:36. > :26:52.amounted an explosion. That is all from us. Next, the weather. Goodbye.
:26:53. > :26:57.Hello there. A lot calmer tonight, compared to last night. Clear spells
:26:58. > :27:01.for most places, the winds continuing to die down. That means
:27:02. > :27:05.there will be one or two mist and fog patches. The stormy conditions
:27:06. > :27:08.from last night caused by an area of low pressure - that is now clearing
:27:09. > :27:11.away. But there is another load looking to the south-west, which
:27:12. > :27:14.will bring more wet and windy weather for Friday. But for
:27:15. > :27:18.Thursday, most places are dry and bright. Still blustery through the
:27:19. > :27:21.night and during the morning in the north of Scotland with the odd
:27:22. > :27:25.scattered shower. More cloud in the South and the West and we could see
:27:26. > :27:29.a few showers here and there. But for most places, it will be a dry
:27:30. > :27:32.and bright day. A little bit of early mist and fog but that should
:27:33. > :27:36.clear away. And then with lightish winds, temperatures by the afternoon
:27:37. > :27:37.up to a pleasant 13 to 15 degrees. There