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:00:11. > :00:22.His is BBC World News Today with me, Philippa Thomas. Silvio Berlusconi

:00:23. > :00:25.tells supporters it is a day of mourning for democracy. Britain

:00:26. > :00:29.risks being seen as "nasty country", so says an EU commissioner, as David

:00:30. > :00:39.Cameron vows to limit the number of EU migrants working in Britain and

:00:40. > :00:44.receiving benefits. Also coming up: We will be live in Sao Paulo were at

:00:45. > :00:51.least two people have been killed at a football stadium. A dinosaur

:00:52. > :01:07.nicknamed Misty sells at auction. We'll tell you just how much she's

:01:08. > :01:10.worth. Hello and welcome. He's been kicked out of the Italian Senate but

:01:11. > :01:15.vows that he's not finished with Italian politics yet. Silvio

:01:16. > :01:17.Berlusconi, three times a Prime Minister, a multi-billionaire media

:01:18. > :01:20.tycoon, and convicted tax evader, today faced the humiliation of his

:01:21. > :01:29.fellow politicians voting him out of parliament with immediate effect.

:01:30. > :01:32.Silvio Berlusconi's supporters were there - not in the Senate - but

:01:33. > :01:36.spilling across the streets outside his Roman palazzo, where their hero

:01:37. > :01:55.told them this is a day of "mourning for democracy."

:01:56. > :02:00.We must not this further that the leader is no longer the senator.

:02:01. > :02:04.There are other leaders of parties who are not Members of Parliament.

:02:05. > :02:08.Even if one is not a Member of Parliament, one can continue to

:02:09. > :02:12.fight for our freedom. He is saying his career may not be

:02:13. > :02:14.over yet. Let's take a quick look at Signore Berlusconi's colourful,

:02:15. > :02:17.controversial political career. Silvio Berlusconi been Prime

:02:18. > :02:22.Minister three times since 1994 - in fact, Italy's longest serving Prime

:02:23. > :02:26.Minister since World War II. But the media tycoon has been plagued by sex

:02:27. > :02:30.scandals, tax fraud cases and gaffes. He was forced to resign as

:02:31. > :02:33.Prime Minister in 2011 as he struggled to reduce the country's

:02:34. > :02:37.debt. This year, his conviction for tax fraud was upheld - a conviction

:02:38. > :02:43.related to deals his company, Mediaset, made to buy the TV rights

:02:44. > :02:46.to American films. Berlusconi have also received a conviction for sex

:02:47. > :02:58.with an underage prostitute and for abuse of his power. Another very

:02:59. > :03:06.dramatic day in Italian politics. Alan, that sounded like a defiant

:03:07. > :03:12.that he was striking there. It is indeed a defiant Mr Berlusconi we

:03:13. > :03:16.have seen here. Just worth saying you probably have to live in Italy

:03:17. > :03:20.to fully appreciate the extent to which this figure has filled the

:03:21. > :03:25.political landscape here for so long as well. There is a generation of

:03:26. > :03:28.young Italians who have only ever known this extraordinary,

:03:29. > :03:33.larger-than-life, deeply controversial figure at the centre

:03:34. > :03:42.of the political machine. Many of them remember him from all of their

:03:43. > :03:46.lives. They saw him being ordered out of parliament, ordered not to

:03:47. > :03:53.take part in any elections for six years. As you say, a defiant

:03:54. > :04:00.Berlusconi. He called this a black day for Italian democracy. He argues

:04:01. > :04:07.he is entirely innocent and he was wrongly convicted of tax fraud by

:04:08. > :04:10.left wing judges bent on trying to end his political career. He insists

:04:11. > :04:15.that won't happen, that he will continue to lead his party from

:04:16. > :04:25.outside Parliament. Of course, he has tremendous wealth. He has a

:04:26. > :04:30.media machine that can pump his message into countless Italian homes

:04:31. > :04:37.on a nightly basis. Nobody here believe they have had the end of

:04:38. > :04:40.him. Does he have a great deal of public support? We saw what looked

:04:41. > :04:51.like thousands in the streets, but in the country at large, dizzy have

:04:52. > :04:54.a large fan base? Several million Italians voted for his party at the

:04:55. > :05:01.last election. That was only in February. There are a swathe of

:05:02. > :05:07.Italians who very much like his economics, is endless talk of the

:05:08. > :05:10.need to reduce taxes. Many Italians are weary of the crushing tax

:05:11. > :05:18.burden. They're like the way he talks about reducing the size of

:05:19. > :05:21.government. His critics, however, would say he was in power for all

:05:22. > :05:26.those years that you mentioned in the intro there and did so little,

:05:27. > :05:33.they would say, to resolve this country's economic problems, and why

:05:34. > :05:38.should he think he might do better if he was to get back into power.

:05:39. > :05:43.What has happened today will make his entire political project more

:05:44. > :05:45.difficult to carry on. Thank you very much. With me is Alberto

:05:46. > :05:47.Nardelli, co-founder of Electionista, a website that

:05:48. > :05:59.monitors elections and politics around the world. Berlusconi has

:06:00. > :06:05.filled the political frame in Italy. Do you think we will see the

:06:06. > :06:09.back of him? I think he has never been as weak as he has tonight, and

:06:10. > :06:12.not just because he has been expelled from Parliament, but he

:06:13. > :06:21.would be able to stand office for the next six years, his party has

:06:22. > :06:25.just split, but I don't think we have seen the end of him. He

:06:26. > :06:28.referred to the fact you can be a party leader and not be in

:06:29. > :06:39.Parliament, so clearly that is his ambition. I think we have a good

:06:40. > :06:50.example with another person who leads a movement. Somebody else

:06:51. > :07:01.could stand for office but Berlusconi could be pulling the

:07:02. > :07:06.strings. You could argue he has made his way around Parliament anyway.

:07:07. > :07:13.What does he stand for? If his party is running for election, what does

:07:14. > :07:16.Berlusconi's Italy mean? I think he will start to repeat the message is

:07:17. > :07:25.he always repeats before an election. He has started today and

:07:26. > :07:28.yesterday with the statement to criticise the government for

:07:29. > :07:31.increasing taxes, putting burdens on hard-working families and companies,

:07:32. > :07:36.and presenting himself as the any person in Italy who would reduce

:07:37. > :07:41.taxes and help hard-working people. I think we will see that message

:07:42. > :07:46.from that up until the election. That goes against the kind of EU

:07:47. > :07:53.conventional wisdom, which is to tell leaders to tighten up budgets.

:07:54. > :08:04.Absolutely. Berlusconi is very good at creating enemies. The EU will be

:08:05. > :08:09.one of those targets. He will blame the EU for lots of the issues which

:08:10. > :08:15.Italy is facing. He will present himself as the only person and party

:08:16. > :08:20.who can save Italy. Too thick Italian politics would be better off

:08:21. > :08:23.without him? In the long-term, absolutely. I think Italian politics

:08:24. > :08:28.would be better off with the current system. I think Bella Scunny is just

:08:29. > :08:36.a reflection of one half of that system. His biggest strength has

:08:37. > :08:44.often been the fact that there are not credible alternatives. -- I

:08:45. > :08:49.think Berlusconi is just a reflection of one half of that

:08:50. > :08:58.system. He is a very clever politician. Thank you for speaking

:08:59. > :09:01.to others. Here in the UK, Prime Minister David Cameron has promised

:09:02. > :09:05.to make it harder for migrants from the European Union to get access to

:09:06. > :09:08.Britain's welfare system, which he's suggested many Eastern Europeans see

:09:09. > :09:10.as "a soft touch". He says the migrants won't qualify for

:09:11. > :09:14.unemployment benefits until they've been here for three months - nor

:09:15. > :09:16.will they get instant access to housing benefit. But an EU

:09:17. > :09:19.commissioner has accused Mr Cameron of an "unfortunate overreaction,"

:09:20. > :09:22.saying the UK risks being seen as "the nasty country." Nick Robinson

:09:23. > :09:26.reports. There are just 35 days to go until any citizen of Romania

:09:27. > :09:32.Bulgaria will be free to work in the UK. The data has been in the diary

:09:33. > :09:40.for years, but the Prime promised to tighten up that benefit rules in

:09:41. > :09:44.time for January. To anyone in other EU countries, thinking of coming to

:09:45. > :09:49.Britain because it is easier to claim benefits, I think it is very

:09:50. > :09:54.important to send a clear message that that is not the case. Frankly,

:09:55. > :09:59.some of this work has come about because I have seen other European

:10:00. > :10:04.countries that do take a tougher approach can pose. Sending a signal

:10:05. > :10:07.mean tweaking the rules for new arrivals who want to claim to

:10:08. > :10:10.benefits. They will have to wait three months before claiming

:10:11. > :10:14.jobseeker's allowance. It will only be payable for six months. Those out

:10:15. > :10:19.of work in future will not be able to claim housing benefit at the same

:10:20. > :10:24.time. The images of Rome are sleeping rough have fuelled already

:10:25. > :10:29.high public concern. The government is promising new powers to remove

:10:30. > :10:36.beggars, and a new minimum earnings threshold before anyone can claim

:10:37. > :10:39.income support. Public concern about immigration is forcing all the main

:10:40. > :10:44.parties to think again. The Prime Minister is even saying he wants to

:10:45. > :10:49.change the basis of the EU. The idea that anyone from any country can

:10:50. > :10:53.work anywhere, whether they are a Polish plumber, remaining in

:10:54. > :11:03.architect or a Brit who fancies working on the Costa Blanca. I think

:11:04. > :11:07.people can now see if there are radically different pay rates, you

:11:08. > :11:12.will get mass movement of people. Frankly, it isn't right for our

:11:13. > :11:16.country those countries. In Brussels, one EU commissioner said

:11:17. > :11:22.Britain was in danger of being seen as the nasty country. David Cameron

:11:23. > :11:27.will meet the support of many other European capitals refuse to change

:11:28. > :11:36.the fundamental European principle. Prime Minister Cameron called me,

:11:37. > :11:45.informing me about the intentions he has on this. I had occasion to

:11:46. > :11:49.underline that free movement is a principle that must be withheld.

:11:50. > :11:53.Many Romanians and Bulgarians have already made the journey here. They

:11:54. > :11:56.are self employed a half work permits. The announcement today is

:11:57. > :12:11.about trying to limit the numbers who follow.

:12:12. > :12:14.Charles Grant joins us now. Do you think Mr Cameron is addressing a

:12:15. > :12:22.genuine problem for Britain? In one respect, he is, and in one respect,

:12:23. > :12:26.he is addressing a greatly exaggerated one. If very poor

:12:27. > :12:32.countries join the EU with very low wage levels, after workers from

:12:33. > :12:36.those countries are allowed to come to the UK, they can come and work in

:12:37. > :12:41.the UK, which creates problems and tensions, and that needs to be

:12:42. > :12:45.addressed. For future countries joining the EU, they would only have

:12:46. > :12:51.the complete right to work in the UK or any other country when the per

:12:52. > :12:56.capita income of the new member gets to, say, 50% or 70% of the average.

:12:57. > :13:01.That is for new members in the future. I think that is a perfectly

:13:02. > :13:05.respectable idea. Where I have more concern is with his measures to try

:13:06. > :13:11.to reduce access of people from existing EU members to benefit in

:13:12. > :13:24.this country. It issues it is a big problem and I do not think it is --

:13:25. > :13:37.it issues it is a big problem. I think there was a great exaggeration

:13:38. > :13:41.of this problem. There is this expectation there could be thousands

:13:42. > :13:46.of tens of thousands possibly very highly qualified immigrants from

:13:47. > :14:01.bald area and Romania who want to come over here. We don't know how

:14:02. > :14:07.many will come. Look at the example of what happened in 2004 when about

:14:08. > :14:14.a million people came to our shores. Most of them came to work hard, play

:14:15. > :14:20.tax and use much less of the welfare system than the British people. They

:14:21. > :14:25.pay more tax. They seem to be younger and not a big demand on the

:14:26. > :14:30.health service. I think people from other places do come, they will work

:14:31. > :14:34.harder make a contribution. Briefly, if that is possible on this

:14:35. > :14:41.question, David Cameron talks about the danger of hollowing out the

:14:42. > :14:44.countries they are coming from if some of the brightest and best come

:14:45. > :14:49.to Britain. That is a fair point. It could damage the structure of these

:14:50. > :14:54.countries. It is a question of balance. And his wire think his idea

:14:55. > :14:58.of saying for the very poorest countries to join the EU, those

:14:59. > :15:02.people should not be able to come and work in our country. I think

:15:03. > :15:07.that is a fair point. For countries already in the EU, he can make some

:15:08. > :15:12.restrictions to the benefits. I would support some changes, for

:15:13. > :15:16.example, child benefit, if Page two people from EU countries living in

:15:17. > :15:23.the UK, even if their children are back in a different country, child

:15:24. > :15:30.benefit can still be paid. The directive could be changed for that.

:15:31. > :15:33.Dara many fewer claimants among the EU immigrants than from ordinary

:15:34. > :15:38.British people living in the country.

:15:39. > :15:40.In The To Latvia now, where the Prime Minister has resigned

:15:41. > :15:44.following the collapse of a supermarket roof in the capital Riga

:15:45. > :15:47.last week, which will now bring his government down too.

:15:48. > :15:49.At least 54 people died in the incident, and Valdis Dombrovskis

:15:50. > :15:52.says he's taking full political responsibility. The Latvian

:15:53. > :16:03.president earlier described the disaster as "murder". Nick Childs

:16:04. > :16:07.has more. Repercussions from this catastrophic

:16:08. > :16:10.collapse continued. Latvia is a country still reeling from its

:16:11. > :16:17.deadliest disaster since it declared its independence from the Soviet

:16:18. > :16:20.Union 22 years ago. There has been much national grief and mourning on

:16:21. > :16:26.display since the tragedy, but also anger. And so, a grim faced Prime

:16:27. > :16:36.Minister has emerged before cameras to announce his resignation. His

:16:37. > :16:40.departure also means a new government must be formed. This is

:16:41. > :16:45.just weeks before the government is due to join the Eurozone. The

:16:46. > :16:48.wrecked shell of the supermarket is being demolished. Emergency workers

:16:49. > :16:55.are also sifting through the debris for clues. A police investigation is

:16:56. > :16:58.taking place into whether building regulations were violated. Many have

:16:59. > :17:02.pointed tonnes of soil from a new roof garden as a key factor. The

:17:03. > :17:06.Minister has blamed a lack of government oversight from

:17:07. > :17:09.construction projects, results of austerity measures to prepare the

:17:10. > :17:13.Eurozone membership. At the same time, they insist the resignation of

:17:14. > :17:18.Latvia's longest serving Prime Minister won't create political

:17:19. > :17:22.economic instability. In similar situations, politicians have made

:17:23. > :17:26.similar decisions, because this is really the biggest ever catastrophe

:17:27. > :17:31.in our history. Politicians have agreed to start negotiations, to

:17:32. > :17:38.start consultations about a new government, already next week. But

:17:39. > :17:42.Latvians are now having to come to terms with a period of political

:17:43. > :17:44.uncertainty, even as they continue to digester scale of last week's

:17:45. > :17:48.tragedy. In Brazil, part of the stadium that

:17:49. > :17:51.will host the World Cup opener in Brazil next year has collapsed,

:17:52. > :17:54.killing at least two people. The Fire Service says it was called to

:17:55. > :17:58.the area after reports of a collapsed crane. Let's get an update

:17:59. > :18:11.now on that stadium collapse in Sao Paulo. The BBC's Gary Duffy is

:18:12. > :18:15.there. What is the latest? The Fire Service in Sao Paulo are now

:18:16. > :18:18.confirming that two people died. They initially said three. It is

:18:19. > :18:22.believed one was a truck driver who was involved in the actual project

:18:23. > :18:26.that was ongoing at the time of the accident. The other was a worker who

:18:27. > :18:30.was taking a break. It was lunchtime, and the company say he

:18:31. > :18:33.was in an area he wasn't authorised to be in. What appears to have

:18:34. > :18:39.happened is that the final bit of the roof structure was being lowered

:18:40. > :18:43.into place. This stadium is roughly 94% complete. Most of the work is

:18:44. > :18:47.done. The deadline was for the end of December. They are clearly under

:18:48. > :18:50.pressure to get the work done, and the accident happened. The

:18:51. > :18:55.construction company involved in the works say that the weight of the

:18:56. > :18:59.structure being lifted was within the limits of the crane that was

:19:00. > :19:02.being used, so clearly, a lot of questions to be answered by

:19:03. > :19:05.investigators. And there had been a lot of pressure had now from the

:19:06. > :19:10.International football Association for the stadium to be finished at

:19:11. > :19:14.least this year? Yes, there has been tension right across the board

:19:15. > :19:17.between thief and the Brazilian authorities about repeated delays in

:19:18. > :19:23.the stadiums. There are problems not just in Sao Paulo, but in other

:19:24. > :19:27.Brazilian cities, such as Amazonas in the heart of the Amazon

:19:28. > :19:30.rainforest. There was a deadline set by the end of December, and I think

:19:31. > :19:33.the Fifa authorities were hoping that would be the end of the matter,

:19:34. > :19:37.that they would look forward to next year's World Cup tournament and say

:19:38. > :19:41.that all the stadiums were now ready. Undoubtedly, as well as being

:19:42. > :19:46.a terrible tragedy for the families involved, this is a big setback for

:19:47. > :19:49.the World Cup. Sao Paulo is Brazil's biggest city, and I think

:19:50. > :19:54.they would have been an expectation that organisationally and with

:19:55. > :19:58.construction companies behind it, this is a project that could have

:19:59. > :20:02.been completed to make this latest deadline. So, undoubtedly an

:20:03. > :20:10.organisational blow to the World Cup will stop thank you for that update.

:20:11. > :20:13.Protests have also continued in Ukraine - where the government's

:20:14. > :20:16.decision NOT to sign a trade agreement with the European Union

:20:17. > :20:18.has been welcomed by some, and bitterly opposed by others.

:20:19. > :20:21.It's thought economic pressure from Russia was instrumental in derailing

:20:22. > :20:27.the deal. Our correspondent Steve Rosenberg has travelled across

:20:28. > :20:31.Ukraine and sent us this report. It's a town that looks Russian,

:20:32. > :20:39.speaks Russian, and even has its own Russian revolutionary. But this is

:20:40. > :20:44.done yet in eastern Ukraine, the country's eastern heartland. The

:20:45. > :20:50.local fridge factory relies on the Russian market. They don't sell many

:20:51. > :20:55.of these to Europe. So here, they are rather call to the idea of EU

:20:56. > :20:57.integration. The factory fears a free-trade deal with Brussels would

:20:58. > :21:04.mean trade barriers to the east. These fridges would suddenly become

:21:05. > :21:10.35% more expensive in Russia. They would be priced out of the market.

:21:11. > :21:16.Russia's much more important to us right now, says this man. We don't

:21:17. > :21:20.want those links broken. It is a similar story across this part of

:21:21. > :21:26.Ukraine. For the factories here, good relations with Moscow are

:21:27. > :21:31.vital. Too many people in eastern Ukraine, the European Union is

:21:32. > :21:35.something that is so far away, and although there is some support here

:21:36. > :21:39.for closer ties with Europe, there is also great concern about damaging

:21:40. > :21:50.relations with Russia. It is a different story here.

:21:51. > :21:56.This is Lviv in western Ukraine, once under Polish rule and part of

:21:57. > :22:05.Austria -hungry. It feels like Europe. At the Catholic cathedral in

:22:06. > :22:11.ten macro three, this baby is being baptised. He is named after the

:22:12. > :22:17.Pope. They want Ukraine to be closer to the EU and less dependent on

:22:18. > :22:22.Russia here. TRANSLATION: If we keep taking the bread which Russia hands

:22:23. > :22:26.out to us, we will just keep coming back for more. We will never be our

:22:27. > :22:32.own masters. This fruit juice manufacturer near Lviv has moved

:22:33. > :22:34.closer to Europe. It has opened two factories in

:22:35. > :22:41.Poland, and there are more on the way. TRANSLATION: We can benefit

:22:42. > :22:46.from Europe if we bring European laws into line with our

:22:47. > :22:50.legislation, that will help others destroy corruption. In Lviv, they

:22:51. > :22:59.know exactly which path they want Ukraine to take. But this country is

:23:00. > :23:01.divided, torn between East and West. Now a look at some of the day's

:23:02. > :23:04.other news. A coalition government has been

:23:05. > :23:06.agreed in Germany after long negotiations between Chancellor

:23:07. > :23:12.Angela Merkel's conservatives and the centre-left SPD. Mrs Merkel said

:23:13. > :23:16.the agreement was based on mutual trust, while the SPD leader

:23:17. > :23:20.described it as fair. Mrs Merkel could be sworn in for a new term in

:23:21. > :23:24.office by Christmas if SPD members vote to approve the new partnership.

:23:25. > :23:28.Russian police have arrested 15 radical Islamists during early

:23:29. > :23:32.morning raids in Moscow. They also recovered homemade bombs, hand

:23:33. > :23:35.grenades and guns. Police said those arrested were members of an Islamist

:23:36. > :23:39.group believed to have links with Al-Qaeda. Security in Russia is

:23:40. > :23:43.tight two months ahead of the Winter Olympics in the Black Sea resort of

:23:44. > :23:48.Sochi. A tiny book of psalms has been sold

:23:49. > :23:52.at auction in New York for more than ?8.5 million, making it the most

:23:53. > :23:56.expensive printed book in the world. The translation of Biblical psalms

:23:57. > :24:00.is thought to be the first book to have been printed in what is now the

:24:01. > :24:10.United States. It was produced by Puritan settlers in Cambridge,

:24:11. > :24:14.Massachusetts in1640. Let's take you now to another

:24:15. > :24:20.extraordinary auction. This one was the sale of a 15 million -year-old

:24:21. > :24:25.fossil, which measured 17 metres. It went under the hammer in England,

:24:26. > :24:29.although knowledgeably, fetching ?400,000. Our correspondent Duncan

:24:30. > :24:36.Kennedy takes at the tail. Proof that age and beauty do mix.

:24:37. > :24:40.150 million years old, and not a drop of Botox in sight. Just be

:24:41. > :24:48.elegant feminine lines of aid deploy dockets, who has been named Misty.

:24:49. > :24:51.Dash-macro declared Douglas. She is thought to be the first large-scale

:24:52. > :24:58.dinosaur skeleton ever to be auctioned in Britain. We will start

:24:59. > :25:02.the bidding with me at ?280,000. Whitney at ?280,000. And antique of

:25:03. > :25:06.such extreme vintage soon attracted bidders through around the world,

:25:07. > :25:15.all keen to lay claim to what was a docile, 56 but long giant. Have

:25:16. > :25:20.?400,000. I am selling against all of the rest of you at ?400,000. Sold

:25:21. > :25:25.for ?400,000. Thank you very much indeed. With tax and commission, the

:25:26. > :25:30.total rises to nearly half ?1 million. Bought by an unnamed

:25:31. > :25:35.institution who will put it on public display. Why do you think

:25:36. > :25:41.they were prepared to pay the best part of half ?1 million? Because it

:25:42. > :25:46.is a true, tremendous object. There are only a handful of complete dip

:25:47. > :25:49.the dockers skeleton that there ever been discovered, so the chance to

:25:50. > :25:55.buy one simply does not happen very often. This is what Misty would have

:25:56. > :26:04.looked like as she roamed during the late Jurassic period. Found in the

:26:05. > :26:08.United States, diplodocus animals like Misty are perhaps the largest

:26:09. > :26:11.and heaviest dinosaur still never existed. She has travelled along way

:26:12. > :26:14.since then, but has lost none of the unique value. At nearly half ?1

:26:15. > :26:20.million, she has not only wowed audiences here in Sussex, but

:26:21. > :26:26.dinosaur devotees the world over. Her new owners will be guaranteed an

:26:27. > :26:34.epic presence. This most feminine of fossils for collectors, a dinosaur

:26:35. > :26:37.to die for. You can tell he enjoyed reporting on

:26:38. > :26:39.that story ! Thanks very much for being with us. You are watching

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