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:00:07. > :00:13.This is BBC World News Today with me, Kasia Madera. Stand up in Kiev

:00:14. > :00:18.as police moved in to dismantle some protest camps in the Ukrainian

:00:19. > :00:22.capital. These are live pictures from Independence Square, where

:00:23. > :00:28.pro-EU demonstrators are still staging rallies. Authorities have

:00:29. > :00:32.given them until Tuesday to leave. No end to anti-government protest in

:00:33. > :00:36.Thailand, despite the Prime Minister dissolving parliament and calling a

:00:37. > :00:39.fresh election. Also coming up, remembering Mandela,

:00:40. > :00:44.last-minute preparations for tomorrow's memorial service as his

:00:45. > :00:46.daughter speaks exclusively to the BBC about the last hours before he

:00:47. > :00:53.died. He said to me, everybody that is

:00:54. > :00:58.here that wants to see him to say bye-bye, it was a most wonderful day

:00:59. > :01:02.for us, because the grandchildren were there, we were there. And end

:01:03. > :01:06.of the line for a motoring icon, why of the line for a motoring icon why

:01:07. > :01:22.Volkswagen is pulling production of its humble Kombi.

:01:23. > :01:28.Hello and welcome to the programme. We begin with fast-moving

:01:29. > :01:31.developments out of Ukraine. Within the past couple of hours, police

:01:32. > :01:37.have dismantled some protest barricades in Independence Square in

:01:38. > :01:41.the capital, Kiev, and entered the headquarters of an opposition party.

:01:42. > :01:45.But there are still thousands of protesters in the square. Let's take

:01:46. > :01:50.a look at some of the images live, hopefully, from Independence Square,

:01:51. > :01:56.we can see those protest camps and some discrepancies between whether,

:01:57. > :02:00.which opposition parties and whether they have actually had their

:02:01. > :02:04.headquarters entered in by the police. But we can discuss this much

:02:05. > :02:08.further, because there is a background story to this, as you can

:02:09. > :02:13.imagine. With me is Olexiy Solohubenko, former head of the BBC

:02:14. > :02:18.Ukrainian service, now global news editor for BBC language services.

:02:19. > :02:24.The situation is tense in Kiev, just remind us why it has come to this.

:02:25. > :02:28.It started after the President of Ukraine, Viktor Yanukovych, decided

:02:29. > :02:31.not to sign the association agreement with the European Union,

:02:32. > :02:36.which was a very big thing for Ukraine. Instead, he decided to side

:02:37. > :02:41.with Russia and to discuss the tripartite arrangement which did not

:02:42. > :02:46.come to anything until now. Last Saturday, there was a very brutal

:02:47. > :02:50.attack on a peaceful rally in Independence Square in Kiev by

:02:51. > :02:55.police. That sparked new rallies. I think the rally over the weekend saw

:02:56. > :03:00.100,000 people, they are demanding not just the wrap Rushmore or

:03:01. > :03:04.joining with the European Union and assigning the agreement, but the

:03:05. > :03:08.protest has evolved into demands for the president to go, for the Cabinet

:03:09. > :03:13.of ministers to go, for the police to be punished for brutality, and

:03:14. > :03:17.neither side, nor the government, the president or the opposition

:03:18. > :03:21.protesters, have any common ground now. There is no dialogue, there are

:03:22. > :03:25.mutual threats, and the stand-off is very tense. So it has moved on from

:03:26. > :03:30.that trade agreement, which even Angela Merkel said the door was

:03:31. > :03:35.still open for Ukraine. When we look at these images now, we know the

:03:36. > :03:39.police have given them a deadline of Tuesday to decamp. Is that going to

:03:40. > :03:42.happen? I think Ukraine is a country of deadlines which are very rarely

:03:43. > :03:46.kept, so I do not think that the protesters will just pack up and go.

:03:47. > :03:52.They are very determined to stay, to protest, to carry on with this. I

:03:53. > :03:57.think the deadlock can be, well there could be a breakthrough

:03:58. > :04:02.tomorrow if Western mediators are put in there. If they are putting

:04:03. > :04:06.their weight behind the negotiations, Baroness Ashton is

:04:07. > :04:09.coming to Kiev, and also I think the under Secretary of State is coming

:04:10. > :04:13.from the United States, so this is not the first time that Ukraine

:04:14. > :04:16.needs external mediation. The same thing happened during the Orange

:04:17. > :04:23.Revolution in 2004, and hopefully this time that will be the route

:04:24. > :04:29.that will resolve the stand-off. Let's talk to Steve Rosenberg, who

:04:30. > :04:32.was live in Kiev, Steve, you are overlooking Independence Square,

:04:33. > :04:36.discrepancies about which opposition headquarters or camps were attacked,

:04:37. > :04:42.can you bring us up with the latest? It has been very fast-moving up

:04:43. > :04:47.until now. That is right. As you can see, the situation behind me on

:04:48. > :04:51.Independence Square is pretty calm, there is a pop concert going on,

:04:52. > :04:59.political speech is being made, no sign of any police here, and the

:05:00. > :05:02.tented encampment remains. It is a slightly different situation in the

:05:03. > :05:08.government district, not far away from here, but there the police are

:05:09. > :05:12.on the streets today, far more police than we saw yesterday in the

:05:13. > :05:17.centre of Kiev. And those police have gradually been moving

:05:18. > :05:22.protesters away from government buildings, the main government

:05:23. > :05:25.buildings in Kiev. We went down to the government district earlier

:05:26. > :05:31.today, we saw several hundred police lined up in rows, surrounding a

:05:32. > :05:38.small tented encampment there. One of the tents was destroyed, not by

:05:39. > :05:42.police. But the situation where we were was pretty calm, but there was

:05:43. > :05:49.pushing and shoving around the government buildings as riot police

:05:50. > :05:54.moved back, pushed back protesters. But here on Independence Square at

:05:55. > :05:58.the moment, it is calm. Steve Rosenberg, live overlooking

:05:59. > :06:01.Independence Square, thank you very much. As Steve and our guest was

:06:02. > :06:05.saying, police have given a deadline of Tuesday, we will watch to see

:06:06. > :06:08.what happens. Some of the other news, and in

:06:09. > :06:14.Thailand anti-government protests are continuing there, too. Even

:06:15. > :06:19.after Yingluck Shinawatra dissolved parliament, she said an election for

:06:20. > :06:23.February, but that did not satisfy the demonstrators, who surrounded

:06:24. > :06:26.her offices at Government House. Protest leaders are demanding the

:06:27. > :06:31.democratic system be changed and the removal of the entire Shinawatra

:06:32. > :06:35.family from Thailand. Jonathan Head got a bird's eye view of the

:06:36. > :06:41.rallies. Shuts down once again by mass

:06:42. > :06:43.protests. They want a government they accused of corruption and

:06:44. > :06:48.abusing its parliamentary majority to go. But the sudden offer of an

:06:49. > :06:49.election have softened the mood. to go. But the sudden offer of an

:06:50. > :06:55.election have softened the mood A show of strength was more like a

:06:56. > :06:58.giant street party. Leaders of this protest movement called for an

:06:59. > :07:03.impressive turnout, and from PA you can see they have achieved that

:07:04. > :07:08.goal. Streets around the capital are filled with people, and it has

:07:09. > :07:09.certainly made an impression on the government. What you do not see are

:07:10. > :07:13.the government's own supporters and the government's own supporters, and

:07:14. > :07:21.you have to ask whether they have enough people to be able to beat the

:07:22. > :07:25.government in an election. The fact is that in rural areas the

:07:26. > :07:29.government is still very popular, so some confusion among these

:07:30. > :07:33.protesters. Was an election a big enough concession? If it was me,

:07:34. > :07:36.protesters. Was an election a big enough concession? If it was me I

:07:37. > :07:41.would accept that. Even if this government wins another election,

:07:42. > :07:46.which they might do? For me, yes, but I am not sure about a lot of

:07:47. > :07:52.people. Even the main opposition party, whose MPs have now joined

:07:53. > :07:54.these rallies, seemed unclear. Its leader has been demanding an

:07:55. > :07:56.election for days but was suddenly unsure whether he would even contest

:07:57. > :08:08.it. So an announcement that should have

:08:09. > :08:15.cleared the air has cleared up knocking. -- nothing. An election

:08:16. > :08:20.will be held in less than two months. How it will go, whether its

:08:21. > :08:27.results will be respected is anyone's guess.

:08:28. > :08:31.In Russia, President Vladimir Putin has abolished Ria Novosti, the

:08:32. > :08:35.country's major state-owned news agency. In a surprise decree

:08:36. > :08:40.published on the Kremlin website, he announced that it would be scrapped

:08:41. > :08:45.and replaced by a news agency called Russia Today. The new agency will be

:08:46. > :08:49.headed by a keen Kremlin supporter, Dmitry Kiselev. A spokesman for the

:08:50. > :08:55.Kremlin said that Ria Novosti was being restructured in order to make

:08:56. > :09:00.it more economical. IMac now, one of the men accused of murdering

:09:01. > :09:03.Fusilier really be has been describing how he chose his victim

:09:04. > :09:08.and then killed him. Michael Adebolajo, a Muslim convert, told

:09:09. > :09:14.the Old Bailey that he was a soldier of Allah and blamed the death of UK

:09:15. > :09:22.foreign policy. June Kelly was in court. The report contains

:09:23. > :09:27.distressing details. The start of the defence case today,

:09:28. > :09:31.the men in the dark are accused of the murder of Lee Rigby, as well as

:09:32. > :09:33.charges of conspiring to murder and attempting to murder a police

:09:34. > :09:39.officer. They pleaded not guilty to everything. Michael Adebowale and

:09:40. > :09:43.Michael Adebolajo have said they want to be referred to by their

:09:44. > :09:49.Muslim names. In the witness box surrounded by security guards, one

:09:50. > :09:55.cordons of Mujahid Abu Hamza and laid out his political and religious

:09:56. > :09:59.beliefs. He told the jury, Al-Qaeda I considered to be mujahedin, I love

:10:00. > :10:03.them, they are my brothers, I have never met them, I consider that my

:10:04. > :10:06.brothers in Islam. He described how he had been brought up as a

:10:07. > :10:13.Christian and had converted to Islam when he was at university. He took

:10:14. > :10:16.part in demonstrations, he was angry at British foreign policy. Today he

:10:17. > :10:21.spoke of a war in Iraq and said it was the treatment of Muslims which

:10:22. > :10:25.led him to kill. On the events in Woolwich, he admitted attempting to

:10:26. > :10:30.decapitate Lee Rigby. He said that, as a soldier, he had an obligation

:10:31. > :10:35.to fight, despite having a wife and six children. His youngest child was

:10:36. > :10:40.just four days old when he took the soldier's life. He said it was Allah

:10:41. > :10:46.who had ordered him to kill Lee Rigby. They were looking for a

:10:47. > :10:50.soldier, and they went for Lee Rigby because he was carrying a military

:10:51. > :10:54.rucksack. He told the court, I am a soldier of Allah, and I understand

:10:55. > :10:58.that some people might not recognise this because we do not wear fatigues

:10:59. > :11:04.and do not go to the Brecon Beacons to drain. But we are still soldiers

:11:05. > :11:07.in the sight of Allah. This was Michael Adebolajo running

:11:08. > :11:09.towards firearms officers armed with a meat cleaver. Police shot him.

:11:10. > :11:14.a meat cleaver. Police shot him Today he said he had wanted to die.

:11:15. > :11:18.Lee Rigby's sister, being comforted by her mother, as the family left

:11:19. > :11:23.court this evening after sitting through the testimony. He has now

:11:24. > :11:28.completed his evidence and the rest of the defence case is due to be

:11:29. > :11:32.heard tomorrow. June Kelly reporting. Nelson

:11:33. > :11:37.Mandela's eldest daughter has described as wonderful the final

:11:38. > :11:42.hours that she and her family spent with the father before he died. She

:11:43. > :11:51.spoke to, two more as preparations were made for the memorial service

:11:52. > :11:57.in Soweto. -- Komla Dumor. We explained to him that people were

:11:58. > :12:02.outside the hospital, singing, putting cards and flowers. I do

:12:03. > :12:06.believe you heard, you know, because I do not know what they were saying

:12:07. > :12:15.with the doctors, saying he had opened his eyes, I think. And I

:12:16. > :12:20.don't know what somebody was saying to me, and I said, well, I believe

:12:21. > :12:26.he still hears me, you know, when I speak to him, because I would

:12:27. > :12:40.everyday say to him, you know, even if all of us, you know, this year or

:12:41. > :12:45.kissed the cheek, everyday for, I don't know, the past so many months,

:12:46. > :12:51.I love you, I am coming to see you tomorrow, you know? And then maybe

:12:52. > :12:59.he would open his eyes for just a second and close those guys. So for

:13:00. > :13:06.me, I think that until the last moment he heard us, you know. And

:13:07. > :13:12.you know, the children were there, the grandchildren were there, you

:13:13. > :13:18.know, Graca Machel was there, so we were always around him. And at the

:13:19. > :13:25.last moment we were sitting with him on Thursday the whole day. It was

:13:26. > :13:29.the most wonderful day for us, because the grandchildren were

:13:30. > :13:33.there, we were there, the professional doctors, and I think

:13:34. > :13:41.when they saw him slipping away those doctors dedicated their time.

:13:42. > :13:48.They were running shifts 24 hours, being there, it was like they were

:13:49. > :13:51.soldiers guarding this... I don t soldiers guarding this... I don't

:13:52. > :14:02.know whether you understand this simile, soldiers guarding his

:14:03. > :14:09.spirit. Without them knowing that they were practising our rituals and

:14:10. > :14:12.culture, and as we family members came in, they would excuse

:14:13. > :14:19.themselves and just a few of them would be there to give us the time

:14:20. > :14:30.to be around my dad's bed. And so even for the grandchildren, I think

:14:31. > :14:34.it was a wonderful moment. I don't think my father fought just for

:14:35. > :14:38.political freedom. He also fought for spiritual freedom, to free

:14:39. > :14:43.yourself spiritually. He talks about the fact that it takes courage to

:14:44. > :14:47.forgive, forgiveness is a very difficult thing. I don't think he

:14:48. > :14:51.woke up one day and said, I forgive those who incarcerated me. But I

:14:52. > :14:58.think he knew that if he didn't forgive, he would be for ever

:14:59. > :15:07.imprisoned himself spiritually. And if you are not free, you cannot be

:15:08. > :15:11.free definitely here. And so for me, the lesson is to have... The lesson

:15:12. > :15:18.we can take away from his life is to have the courage to forgive other

:15:19. > :15:22.people. Your own husband, if you are married, your own children, your own

:15:23. > :15:25.neighbours, your own community, because if we have the courage to

:15:26. > :15:32.forgive as human beings, there will be no wars around us. There will be

:15:33. > :15:39.no crime, there will be no conflict, OK? And for me, that is the greatest

:15:40. > :15:43.gift that he has given to the world. Because he also says none of us,

:15:44. > :15:52.Because he also says none of us when we are born, are born hating

:15:53. > :15:57.another. We are taught to hate. If you can teach a human being to hate,

:15:58. > :16:00.you can also teach a human being to love, to embrace, to forgive. And

:16:01. > :16:13.for me, that is the greatest lesson. Archbishop Desmond Tutu has given a

:16:14. > :16:19.tribute at a service in Johannesburg.

:16:20. > :16:36.He emerged from that crucible of suffering, and being dehumanised,

:16:37. > :16:46.breaking rocks. In Post Office backs, working in the quarry. You

:16:47. > :17:01.know what it did to his eyesight and to his lungs. Yes. But he said, I

:17:02. > :17:15.have been consumed by hate, and a lust for revenge. He is SO what for

:17:16. > :17:20.reconciliation and forgiveness. An incredibly important person in

:17:21. > :17:22.Nelson Mandela's life. We have an order of service for the special

:17:23. > :17:29.memorial service that will be taking place on Tuesday. Much more details

:17:30. > :17:32.on our website. It has been one month since Typhoon

:17:33. > :17:40.Haiyan devastated much of the central Philippines, link more than

:17:41. > :17:43.five point -- 5500 people. Bodies are still being found survivors

:17:44. > :17:48.clear away the wreckage of homes and that were destroyed. The scale of

:17:49. > :17:52.the destruction means rebuilding will take years. Even though many

:17:53. > :17:57.aid agencies are helping with the relief effort. Tacloban has been the

:17:58. > :18:01.focus for the operation, but there are reports that in moronic areas,

:18:02. > :18:08.people are still struggling to get the help that they need. -- more

:18:09. > :18:13.promote areas. 1 million homes were damaged or destroyed across the

:18:14. > :18:19.country. Close to 5 million people have lost their livelihoods. My

:18:20. > :18:27.colleague has returned to Tacloban, which bore the brunt of the storm.

:18:28. > :18:32.Looking for solace, during a time of mourning. For the people gathered

:18:33. > :18:36.here for a special mass at the parish church, religion has a

:18:37. > :18:43.crucial part of the recovery process, after losing their family

:18:44. > :18:52.members, homes and livelihoods to Typhoon Haiyan last month. I do not

:18:53. > :19:05.know where to go. Only here. During Sunday, there was a mass. It is the

:19:06. > :19:11.only one I have now. During the storm, 250 people hid in the church,

:19:12. > :19:18.hoping for divine protection. They also drive. But nearly 6000 others

:19:19. > :19:24.did not make it, with over 1700 more still missing. For the traumatised

:19:25. > :19:30.community of Tacloban, the church has become their main refuge. This

:19:31. > :19:36.is where many of the remaining residents of Tacloban were gathered

:19:37. > :19:39.and will cover this Christmas. It is most important religious holiday in

:19:40. > :19:43.the Philippines, the biggest Catholic unity in Asia. This year,

:19:44. > :19:48.it is not about exchanging gifts or having big dinners. But for many

:19:49. > :19:56.survivors here, it is all about faith. The city has slowly started

:19:57. > :20:01.to get back on its feet. There is even running water and electricity

:20:02. > :20:06.in some areas. But when night falls, most of the devastated areas look

:20:07. > :20:08.like this. Shrouded in black. Parishioners have tried to lift

:20:09. > :20:14.their spirits by handing parols, or their spirits by handing parols or

:20:15. > :20:21.lanterns. They say it helps give hope in times of darkness.

:20:22. > :20:23.Some of the other news. French troops have begun disarming

:20:24. > :20:28.the leisure groups in the Central African Republic. The operation

:20:29. > :20:34.began with a brief exchange of gunfire between armed men and French

:20:35. > :20:41.soldiers near the airport in the capital. Recent communal fighting

:20:42. > :20:43.has left more than 450 people dead. 1600 troops are patrolling towns and

:20:44. > :20:47.city go check point across the country.

:20:48. > :20:52.The leader of the Muslim brotherhood in Egypt has appeared in court,

:20:53. > :20:55.accused of inciting violence, after the army as did Mohamed Morsi.

:20:56. > :21:00.Mohammed Badie, who was in court with other leading Islamists, denies

:21:01. > :21:08.the charges. Muslim students in Cairo have prompted the police to

:21:09. > :21:11.move onto the campus. Blackburn Rovers has confirmed that

:21:12. > :21:16.shrike DJ Campbell is one of six people arrested by police

:21:17. > :21:21.investigating allegations of match fixing, following a newspaper report

:21:22. > :21:25.in which the former Portsmouth and Nigeria international Sam Sodje

:21:26. > :21:31.claims he could arrange for players to be booked in return for money.

:21:32. > :21:35.Pictures showing North Korea's second most powerful man being

:21:36. > :21:40.forcibly removed from a party meeting have been aired on state TV.

:21:41. > :21:44.Jang Song-taek is the uncle of the leader, Kim Jong-un, and had been

:21:45. > :21:48.given the job of guiding and mentoring the junk leader as he

:21:49. > :21:56.issued the power to designate. -- the young leader.

:21:57. > :22:04.Money, sex and power of the stuff of headlines in North Korea, just like

:22:05. > :22:08.anywhere else, or at the state media put it, corruption, disloyalty and

:22:09. > :22:15.capitalist living. Jang Song-taek, once the most -- the second most

:22:16. > :22:19.powerful man, stripped of his positions and holed from a party

:22:20. > :22:26.meeting, under arrest, the biggest political earthquake since his

:22:27. > :22:30.nephew assumed power. He was Kim Jong-un's Guardian, mental and

:22:31. > :22:36.uncle. Too many, he was the power behind the throne. Perhaps too

:22:37. > :22:40.powerful, or maybe too popular. Few of the elder statesmen who booked

:22:41. > :22:46.the side Kim Jong-il's off have survived two years of his son's

:22:47. > :22:50.rule. The speed and scope of this latest purge is especially

:22:51. > :22:55.startling. Jang Song-taek has already been edited out of official

:22:56. > :22:58.videos, like this documentary, shown on state TV. Whether this signal is

:22:59. > :23:03.personal or political differences, the worry here in South Korea is

:23:04. > :23:07.that Jeong Jang could distract attention with military action. The

:23:08. > :23:14.defence Ministry has already warned its troops to be on high alert. With

:23:15. > :23:19.North Korea's old guard fading, the game of predicting the regime is

:23:20. > :23:24.getting harder. Step-by-step, Kim Jong-un has demonstrated his hold on

:23:25. > :23:33.power. But also, his fear of rivals. If his encore was a threat, but his

:23:34. > :23:38.removal be an even bigger one? It is a vehicle which you can often

:23:39. > :23:43.hear coming before you even see it. I am talking about the Volkswagen

:23:44. > :23:47.Kombi, which has been on the roads since 1950. The vehicle is only

:23:48. > :23:48.built in Brazil, almost to the same specification as it has always been

:23:49. > :24:01.built. But VW will stop making it. If the Volkswagen Kombi ever had the

:24:02. > :24:07.motoring equivalent of sex appeal in its use, that allure has faded with

:24:08. > :24:13.old age. Practically made for the streets and beaches of Brazil,

:24:14. > :24:18.thousands of old vehicles of the modern-day equivalent of the horse

:24:19. > :24:21.and cart. Engines and chassis that should have been retired years ago

:24:22. > :24:27.keeping thousands of small businesses afloat. Without the

:24:28. > :24:34.vehicle, there is no way to work, says this man. That is the best

:24:35. > :24:38.thing for us. 90 beach chairs, 60 on Brothers, sacks of coconuts and a

:24:39. > :24:45.volleyball net. It might not be the slickest thing on the beach, but it

:24:46. > :24:49.is the -- but it is very practical. But it is the end of a line for a

:24:50. > :24:53.car which has been manufactured here for more than half a century. In an

:24:54. > :24:54.increasingly automated industry, for more than half a century. In an

:24:55. > :24:58.increasingly automated industry it is still mainly built by hand. This

:24:59. > :25:05.format icon is beginning to look outdated. It is essentially the same

:25:06. > :25:09.vehicle that was built at this plant in the 1950s. But it no longer meets

:25:10. > :25:14.the safety requirements in Europe and those to be introduced here at

:25:15. > :25:19.the start of next year. 1.5 million units down the line, the Volkswagen

:25:20. > :25:25.Kombi is coming to an end. However much enthusiasts will mourn the

:25:26. > :25:30.passing of it, for Volkswagen, it is a hard-nosed business is Asian.

:25:31. > :25:38.According to the Brazilian deflation, starting in 2014, all

:25:39. > :25:44.cars airbags and ABS. To construct and put these features into that car

:25:45. > :25:50.would be a huge product change. Not to miss an opportunity, the company

:25:51. > :25:53.has built a last edition model. For a few thousand extra dollars, you

:25:54. > :26:01.get paintwork and trim invoking the 1960s. However fond of those distant

:26:02. > :26:08.memories maybe, the Volkswagen Kombi is not the smoothest cottage drive.

:26:09. > :26:15.It feels like a very basic vehicle. That was perhaps always part of the

:26:16. > :26:19.attraction. It will be the end of an era, not

:26:20. > :26:27.seeing one of those are around! The top story. Let's cross over to

:26:28. > :26:31.those live pictures from Ukraine, because security forces have

:26:32. > :26:34.dismantled some barricades and riot police have entered an opposition

:26:35. > :26:38.party headquarters, but the protesters remain in force. Now, the

:26:39. > :26:45.protesters remain in force. Now the vice president of the United States

:26:46. > :26:49.has said that violence has no place in a democratic society, so concern

:26:50. > :26:51.around the world as to those events in the Ukraine. We will keep you

:26:52. > :26:52.updated.