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:00:00. > :00:08.This is BBC World News Today with me Philippa Thomas.

:00:09. > :00:11.How much more will be destroyed in Syria?

:00:12. > :00:16.who's just announced he's stepping down.

:00:17. > :00:20.Lakhdar Brahimi announced his decision at the UN,

:00:21. > :00:23.where the Security Council must now consider what to do next

:00:24. > :00:29.A senior Nigerian minister has called for dialogue with Boko Haram,

:00:30. > :00:32.the Islamist militant group that kidnapped more than 200 schoolgirls,

:00:33. > :00:40.Nigeria says "all options are open" to secure the girls' release.

:00:41. > :00:43.As Ukraine's eastern rebels insist on their right to independence,

:00:44. > :00:47.the BBC has an exclusive interview with the Ukraine's Prime Minister,

:00:48. > :00:50.who says Russia is trying to build a new Berlin Wall.

:00:51. > :01:00.A victory for privacy or a failure for freedom of information?

:01:01. > :01:02.Why a court's decision on Google is dividing opinion.

:01:03. > :01:05.And the man behind the monster. We'll hear about

:01:06. > :01:08.the creator of the Alien in Ridley Scott's epic horror film,

:01:09. > :01:28.The international Syria mediator, Lakhdar Brahimi, has confirmed that

:01:29. > :01:31.he'll step down from the role at the end of this month.

:01:32. > :01:34.His decision was announced at the UN in New York.

:01:35. > :01:37.Mr Brahimi was thanked by the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon

:01:38. > :01:40.for his work chairing two rounds of talks between the Syrian government

:01:41. > :01:47.But his announcement came as a sharp reminder that the process

:01:48. > :01:50.has failed to yield any agreement on a transitional government,

:01:51. > :02:10.Everybody who has a responsibility and inflation has to remember that

:02:11. > :02:14.the question is how many more dead? How much more destruction there will

:02:15. > :02:20.be before Syria becomes again this area we have known? The new city are

:02:21. > :02:26.different from the one of the past, -- new Syria, the one we have loved

:02:27. > :02:31.and admired for many years. With with his experience,

:02:32. > :02:33.I thought and we thought, and it was a natural expectation

:02:34. > :02:37.that he would be able to deliver and we would have

:02:38. > :02:39.been able to deliver altogether. But somehow,

:02:40. > :02:41.because of the division, because of the divided world, here

:02:42. > :02:43.and there, and within the United Nations and

:02:44. > :02:46.the region, we have not been able to make any progress

:02:47. > :02:52.in the course of these three years. and many people have been displaced

:02:53. > :02:59.internally. The Nigerian government says it's

:03:00. > :03:10.prepared to talk to the extremist group that has

:03:11. > :03:13.kidnapped over 200 schoolgirls. Some of the schoolgirls have been

:03:14. > :03:15.identified by relatives from a video released by their captors,

:03:16. > :03:19.the Islamist militants Boko Haram. The government had earlier

:03:20. > :03:22.refused to negotiate with those Our World Affairs editor, John

:03:23. > :03:39.Simpson, has been to the extreme North-east of Nigeria and sent this

:03:40. > :03:42.report. These pictures have been

:03:43. > :03:45.scanned with immense care by the families

:03:46. > :03:47.of the missing girls. And there has been just

:03:48. > :03:51.a little movement After the scornful message yesterday

:03:52. > :03:55.by Boko Haram's leader, that they would

:03:56. > :03:58.only give the girls back in exchange for captured Boko Haram militants,

:03:59. > :04:01.a government minister has said they are trying to get talks

:04:02. > :04:03.underway. It hasn't worked in the past,

:04:04. > :04:09.but it could now. In the skies above us here

:04:10. > :04:12.in north-east Nigeria, American surveillance planes have

:04:13. > :04:15.started operating, hunting for any sign of the girls.

:04:16. > :04:19.But there is still no indication the Nigerian government is stepping

:04:20. > :04:23.up its efforts. This is Maiduguri Airport, which

:04:24. > :04:26.serves the capital of a state which You might expect the aprons here to

:04:27. > :04:33.be packed with military aircraft. I asked a local senator why

:04:34. > :04:41.so little was being done. The international community must

:04:42. > :04:46.put pressure on the government. Because on their own, left to them,

:04:47. > :04:50.they don't care, because it is not Hence the fury in places

:04:51. > :04:59.like the town of Gamboru, The governor came here to

:05:00. > :05:14.offer help and money. But

:05:15. > :05:16.the survivors are working themselves up into a frenzy of anger that the

:05:17. > :05:20.Nigerian government should be doing The governor was lucky

:05:21. > :05:38.to get away unhurt. The governor and all of the rest

:05:39. > :05:44.of us are being thrown out So we are having to get back to

:05:45. > :05:52.our cars pretty quickly. And they can't understand why

:05:53. > :06:01.a world which cares so much

:06:02. > :06:04.about the missing schoolgirls seems to care so little about

:06:05. > :06:14.the destruction of an entire town. Germany's Foreign Minister has

:06:15. > :06:16.held talks with Ukraine's He says it is now crucial that

:06:17. > :06:23.the two sides, government The minister's visit comes

:06:24. > :06:28.a day after separatists in eastern Ukraine declared independence after

:06:29. > :06:30.an unofficial referendum at the weekend, which Russia has recognised

:06:31. > :06:34.but which the West rejects. The BBC's Ben Wright

:06:35. > :06:37.in Brussels has this exclusive interview with the Ukrainian prime

:06:38. > :06:43.minister Arseny Yatsenyuk. What is happening today in Ukraine

:06:44. > :06:46.is not only a threat to Ukraine. This is a threat to

:06:47. > :06:50.the entire Europe. And trying to build up a new Berlin

:06:51. > :06:59.wall. Do you think now is the moment

:07:00. > :07:03.for the European Union to increase significantly the sanctions they are

:07:04. > :07:05.applying to Russia? They finance and support Russian-led

:07:06. > :07:11.terrorists and separatists They are doing everything they can

:07:12. > :07:23.to disrupt presidential elections in Ukraine not to have

:07:24. > :07:27.a legitimate president. It seems the ultimate goal

:07:28. > :07:30.of the Russian President and regime Russia will fail

:07:31. > :07:40.in making Ukraine a failed state. But my question to you therefore is

:07:41. > :07:49.at what moment do you want talk of tougher sanctions within the

:07:50. > :07:52.European Union to turn into action? It is high time to have

:07:53. > :08:00.tougher sanctions on Russia. How do you describe

:08:01. > :08:04.the current situation in Ukraine? There was the referendum

:08:05. > :08:18.at the weekend that we do not have There was the referendum

:08:19. > :08:21.at the weekend that you do not But pro-Russian separatists

:08:22. > :08:26.in that part of your country have no still don't have control over many

:08:27. > :08:28.government buildings. They are occupied

:08:29. > :08:30.by heavily armed people. It is a chaotic situation over

:08:31. > :08:34.which you do not have any control, We do understand that the majority

:08:35. > :08:40.of Ukrainians, including those who live in eastern and southern

:08:41. > :08:45.Ukraine, supported Ukraine as one united. On the other hand,

:08:46. > :08:48.we do understand and acknowledge And the best way to resolve these

:08:49. > :08:53.problems is to have a nationwide dialogue that we launched two months

:08:54. > :08:59.cannot have dialogue with terrorists who are holding and possessing live

:09:00. > :09:02.ammunition and machine guns. We are willing to talk to

:09:03. > :09:04.the Ukrainian people, How do you ensure that these

:09:05. > :09:11.elections are legitimate? We are doing everything that is

:09:12. > :09:14.needed to have free We do understand that we have

:09:15. > :09:18.a number of hotspots And my government will do

:09:19. > :09:24.everything, and will undertake all And we acknowledge that, in some

:09:25. > :09:29.areas, it will be difficult. To hold elections and allow everyone

:09:30. > :09:36.freely to cast the ballot. And it is difficult to cast a ballot

:09:37. > :09:44.having the barrel at your hand. Mainly pointed

:09:45. > :09:47.by these Russian-led terrorists. But we are absolutely sure that we

:09:48. > :09:50.will pass these elections and we Let's talk to the BBC's David Stern

:09:51. > :10:08.in the Ukrainian capital Kiev. We have gathered German Foreign

:10:09. > :10:12.Minister talk of dialogue, but just there the acting Prime Minster say

:10:13. > :10:19.you cannot hide dialogue with Terrell is -- with terrorists as he

:10:20. > :10:23.sees it. That is a bit of an impasse?

:10:24. > :10:29.It is, and difficult to get the sites to talk to each other. And

:10:30. > :10:35.clashes are ongoing. Part of the German's Foreign Minister's job was

:10:36. > :10:41.to get both sides to stop using force, but a few hours ago, we have

:10:42. > :10:43.that the pro-Russian separatists attacked a group of Ukrainian

:10:44. > :10:50.government forces, and armed personnel carrier, dealing seven and

:10:51. > :10:57.wounding seven, the worst single day loss for the Army so far. It is

:10:58. > :11:01.difficult to see if they can come together to talk at the very moment.

:11:02. > :11:04.But that the moment, this will make the job more difficult in the

:11:05. > :11:10.upcoming days for the European Union to bring some kind of reduction in

:11:11. > :11:14.the escalation of this crisis. Other voices in Kiev, in Parliament,

:11:15. > :11:20.saying they do have to talk to stop this getting worse? There are many

:11:21. > :11:24.voices saying there needs to be a dialogue. You heard the prime

:11:25. > :11:29.ministers saying there needs to be a nationwide dialogue. They are going

:11:30. > :11:34.to hold a round table tomorrow in Parliament. But neither side wants

:11:35. > :11:39.to talk to the other. The government says it will not talk to terrorists

:11:40. > :11:43.and the pro-Russian separatists say they will not talk to the

:11:44. > :11:48.government. They say they have declared their independence. It is

:11:49. > :11:53.an impasse to overcome. But perhaps, if the situation escalates further,

:11:54. > :11:57.maybe cool heads will prevail and managed to bring them to the table,

:11:58. > :12:07.or at least some proxies to the table to speak for them. Thank you.

:12:08. > :12:09.A top European Court has ruled that people have the

:12:10. > :12:12.right to ask Google to delete personal data. The

:12:13. > :12:14.European Union Court of Justice says some

:12:15. > :12:16.individuals have the right to "be forgotten" when information about

:12:17. > :12:19.them is irrelevant or outdated. The European Justice Commissioner

:12:20. > :12:22.Viviane Reding says this is a "clear victory for the protection of

:12:23. > :12:25.personal data of European". Google says it's disappointed and has

:12:26. > :12:30.argued that forcing it to remove data amounts to censorship.

:12:31. > :12:32.Viktor Mayer-Schonberger is Professor of Internet Governance

:12:33. > :12:34.and Regulation at the University of Oxford.

:12:35. > :12:40.The Virtue of Forgetting in the Digital Age.

:12:41. > :12:47.He joins me via webcam from Frankfurt in Germany.

:12:48. > :12:57.Welcome to the programme. This is quite a blow to Google? I think so,

:12:58. > :13:02.but Google must have expected it, losing some court cases in France,

:13:03. > :13:07.Germany, and Spain, though this is just another blow. Does it set a

:13:08. > :13:14.precedent for other Internet companies? I think other search

:13:15. > :13:19.engines will certainly take notice. But we must also put this in

:13:20. > :13:22.perspective. In this case, an individual went to the national data

:13:23. > :13:30.protection authority in Spain, with a complaint, and that authority

:13:31. > :13:36.agreed, asking Google to take down a link to a particular web page. No

:13:37. > :13:38.web page was taken down, just the link.

:13:39. > :13:44.link to a particular web page. No web And Google did not comply, that

:13:45. > :13:48.is the basis of this court case, which will require people to go to

:13:49. > :13:53.local authorities to force Google to take links down. You can imagine,

:13:54. > :13:57.with their being millions of Internet users, there could be many

:13:58. > :14:03.requests which could clog up law courts at the least? Very unlikely,

:14:04. > :14:09.because the fact is the European Court of Justice did today, in a

:14:10. > :14:12.relatively balanced decision, was not to invent a new right, but

:14:13. > :14:19.reaffirm and we state the right on the books or 20 years. And in these

:14:20. > :14:24.20 years, very few individuals have exercised that right, so I do not

:14:25. > :14:28.perceive thousands or even hundreds of thousands of people exercising

:14:29. > :14:33.their right and going to authorities, because that takes time

:14:34. > :14:38.and money. In fact, Google already is inundated, not with requests for

:14:39. > :14:48.more privacy, requests to remove links from -- pointing to

:14:49. > :14:54.intellectual priority by lesions. It raises the conceptual idea of can be

:14:55. > :15:04.re-right past? -- intellectual priority violations. The challenge

:15:05. > :15:08.is that human forgetting performs an important function, allowing us to

:15:09. > :15:15.evolve and grow, to go beyond what we wear ten or 15 years ago. And as

:15:16. > :15:20.the digital tools link us to this past, to this comprehensive memory,

:15:21. > :15:24.we have difficulties evolving and growing, which may have

:15:25. > :15:35.repercussions on how we as a society and individuals forgive. Very good

:15:36. > :15:40.to speak to you. Thank you. Let us go back to our lead story. The

:15:41. > :15:49.special envoy to Syria is about to stand down from his role. I suppose

:15:50. > :15:54.this is an admission of failure? Yes, and not a surprising one. We

:15:55. > :16:00.have known that he wanted to step down. He tried to bring the talks

:16:01. > :16:04.together in Geneva. The parties came together, but there wasn't any

:16:05. > :16:13.significant headway made at the talks. After that he signalled that

:16:14. > :16:28.his time in the job was numbered. The diplomatic track had come to a

:16:29. > :16:34.halt. When President Assad announced elections, there was talk of him

:16:35. > :16:49.stepping down. When he indicated he wanted to stand for election, there

:16:50. > :16:54.was no point in carrying on. We know that he will be meeting members of

:16:55. > :17:07.the UN council, but whether we go from here? It is all about the

:17:08. > :17:13.dynamic. There are divisions that exist on the Security Council that

:17:14. > :17:18.don't help. That dynamic has made meaningful diplomacy so difficult

:17:19. > :17:28.over the last three years and the Syrian envoy's job has been occupied

:17:29. > :17:33.by two senior UN officials. They are experienced diplomats and they are

:17:34. > :17:38.well known troubleshooters. They have helped in situations before

:17:39. > :17:42.like Iraq and Afghanistan, that Syria has been beyond both of their

:17:43. > :17:48.skills and whoever takes over faces one of the most thankless and

:17:49. > :17:52.difficult jobs in world diplomacy. Thank you. Let as have we've looked

:17:53. > :18:00.at some of today's other news. Let us

:18:01. > :18:05.go back to our lead story. The special envoy to Syria is about to

:18:06. > :18:15.stand down from his role. I suppose Jordan's ambassador to Libya has

:18:16. > :18:17.returned home after being The Envoy, Fawaz al-ltan,

:18:18. > :18:21.was released unharmed and was flown Meanwhile, Jordan has freed a Libyan

:18:22. > :18:25.militant whose release was reportedly demanded by the

:18:26. > :18:28.kidnappers, though it denies there The International Criminal Court

:18:29. > :18:41.in the Hague says it will launch a preliminary investigation

:18:42. > :18:43.into claims of abuse by It will be the first time Britain

:18:44. > :18:49.has been the subject of an ICC This follows a submission by lawyers

:18:50. > :19:01.alleging more than 400 cases of More than 200 miners in Turkey have

:19:02. > :19:05.been trapped underground after an explosion and fire at a coal mine

:19:06. > :19:07.in the west of the country. It's believed

:19:08. > :19:15.at least four men have died and the fire may still be burning.

:19:16. > :19:23.Our correspondence is there. Please bring us up to date. We are getting

:19:24. > :19:28.our information from the Turkish energy minister. He said he did not

:19:29. > :19:33.want to speculate over how many miners were killed and how many arch

:19:34. > :19:37.wrapped. One local MP says that three people have been killed, but I

:19:38. > :19:42.should stress he has change those figures throughout the day. Local

:19:43. > :19:47.officials and union officials say that perhaps between two and 300

:19:48. > :19:52.people, miners that is, may be trapped. They may be several

:19:53. > :19:58.kilometres underground and they made the trapped because the elevator is

:19:59. > :20:05.they use to get to the service are out of action because there is no

:20:06. > :20:13.electricity. Oxygen is being pumped down to the miners.

:20:14. > :20:20.Turkey does not have a very good record on mine safety.

:20:21. > :20:25.It hasn't. 19 miners were previously killed in various accidents across

:20:26. > :20:31.the country. In the last few years they have tried to get more coal

:20:32. > :20:39.mines going to limit the importation of gas. Some of the opposition

:20:40. > :20:43.parties actually got together to ask Rushton is about safety concerns and

:20:44. > :21:01.they say the government did not answer those questions. They will

:21:02. > :21:05.certainly be asked again tonight. It is suspected that a local politician

:21:06. > :21:12.in Spain was killed in a revenge attack. All European election

:21:13. > :21:35.campaigning has been suspended. United in grief after the murder of

:21:36. > :21:49.one of the Spanish's -- this Spanish's city leading politician.

:21:50. > :21:54.Although this solution has -- although this problem has no

:21:55. > :22:02.immediate solution, we are united in our grief. Woman-macro was shot

:22:03. > :22:16.several times in broad daylight near her home. Spanish politics is

:22:17. > :22:28.normally a polarised sometimes tribal affair. Today there is unity

:22:29. > :22:33.on all sides. All main political parties have suspended campaigning

:22:34. > :22:38.for the European elections due in less than two weeks time. A mother

:22:39. > :22:44.and daughter have been arrested. Both suspects reportedly had links

:22:45. > :22:50.to the popular party in Lyon. According to one report, just days

:22:51. > :23:06.ago the younger woman was denied compensation for losing her job at

:23:07. > :23:20.the local authority. The artist responsible for designing the

:23:21. > :23:24.monsters on the film Alien has died. Person-macro was also known for his

:23:25. > :23:31.sculptures. Whitney is Ian Nathan, the executive editor of Empire

:23:32. > :23:37.magazine. We have never seen anything quite like this monster on

:23:38. > :23:40.our screens, have we? We haven't. I think Ridley Scott liked him because

:23:41. > :23:50.he was getting frustrated with science fiction conventions. When he

:23:51. > :23:56.came on board, there was a clean cut sci-fi universe. He was told to go

:23:57. > :24:01.against that. He was frustrated with the tentacle beasts that he had been

:24:02. > :24:11.shown in diagrams. One day the screenwriter sat him down and handed

:24:12. > :24:31.him a collection of person-macro's art. Ridley Scott said, this is the

:24:32. > :24:58.guy. What he difficult to work with? He was a complicated man. He had

:24:59. > :25:06.amazing ideas, although the studio were wary of him and were horrified

:25:07. > :25:13.when they saw his designs. When Ridley Scott came on board, he loved

:25:14. > :25:20.what HR Giger was doing. And this film changed the nature of the

:25:21. > :25:28.genre. It was transformative. Whether it is science fiction horror

:25:29. > :25:35.is always questionable. But HR Giger's contribution was more than

:25:36. > :25:41.just the monster. He designed the planet that the aliens came from.

:25:42. > :25:46.Scott thought it was wonderful that you could never tell quite where the

:25:47. > :25:53.mechanism stopped and the biology began. That is exactly what he

:25:54. > :26:00.wanted, a thing of nightmares. It truly represented the idea of Alien.

:26:01. > :26:04.The hairs are standing up on the back of my neck as you talk about

:26:05. > :26:16.it. It was something that stayed with you. It not into your psyche,

:26:17. > :26:24.just watching it. That is right. There are Freudian undertones and it

:26:25. > :26:28.is very for luck, but HR Giger said the arts came from his own

:26:29. > :26:35.nightmares. He lived in a house with very few windows when he was a

:26:36. > :26:41.child. He used to dream about pipes and mechanisms covered in human

:26:42. > :26:43.skin. At that awful point, we have to leave it.

:26:44. > :26:50.skin. At that awful point, we have to leave Thank you for joining us.

:26:51. > :27:07.Some of us will be experiencing the warmest weather of the year so far

:27:08. > :27:10.later this week. High pressure is building up and the changes will be

:27:11. > :27:14.noticed from tomorrow. Here comes the high-pressure, but there will be

:27:15. > :27:15.these weather