:00:00. > :00:00.This is BBC World News Today, with me, Kasia Madera.
:00:00. > :00:08.On a knife edge - that's how the United Nations is describing
:00:09. > :00:14.where Israeli strikes have pounded the territory for the third day.
:00:15. > :00:17.Palestinian officials say at least 78 people have been killed
:00:18. > :00:32.Civilian casualties increase in Gaza as Israeli and Palestinian militants
:00:33. > :00:39.trade rocket attacks. The UN urges a cease-fire. Our paramount concern is
:00:40. > :00:44.the safety and well-being of all civilians, no matter where they are.
:00:45. > :00:46.It pains me, and it should pain us all.
:00:47. > :00:48.Emergency laws, expelled diplomats and thwarted bomb plots.
:00:49. > :00:50.We look at the issue of surevillance in Europe.
:00:51. > :00:54.Also coming up, a month after major Iraqi cities
:00:55. > :00:57.fell under the control of the Sunni militant group ISIS,
:00:58. > :01:16.we look at what their long term strategy could be.
:01:17. > :01:21.Hello and a warm welcome to the programme.
:01:22. > :01:24.Israel has today continued its campaign of air strikes on Gaza
:01:25. > :01:25.amid further rocket attacks from Palestinian militants.
:01:26. > :01:28.After three days of hostilities, the death toll in Gaza has risen to
:01:29. > :01:30.over 80 according to health officials there.
:01:31. > :01:33.There have been no Israeli fatalities over the same period.
:01:34. > :01:36.Israel says it wants to eliminate the threat of rocket attacks
:01:37. > :01:39.from Gaza for good, while Hamas says Israel must stop
:01:40. > :01:43.its blockade of Gaza and release Palestinian prisoners.
:01:44. > :01:46.From Khan Younis, the scene of one of the Israeli attacks,
:01:47. > :02:08.In the Khan Younis refugee camp, the bodies kept coming. This was the
:02:09. > :02:15.funeral of this family. A mother and a father killed alongside their six
:02:16. > :02:20.children. They were asleep in their beds when the Israeli air strike
:02:21. > :02:31.hit. It flattened their home. There was little left to salvage. In
:02:32. > :02:37.total, 17 people were killed at Khan Younis, the worst nights so far for
:02:38. > :02:41.Gaza. They did not warn us, says their neighbour, it was the first
:02:42. > :02:45.time they hit a house without any warning. The Israeli military
:02:46. > :02:53.usually gives advance notice of an attack. The family did not receive
:02:54. > :03:00.it. It is not yet clear why Israel bombed this particular site.
:03:01. > :03:04.Families live cheek by jowl. These were the homes to six separate
:03:05. > :03:11.families, all of whom have been destroyed. Israel says it is
:03:12. > :03:16.investigating what happened here, but in Khan Younis there is anger.
:03:17. > :03:23.They want to destroy Palestinian, but we can save this land because
:03:24. > :03:31.this is our land. Hamas continued to attack Israel. Rockets hit this
:03:32. > :03:39.home. It landed in the children's playroom. The family were not home.
:03:40. > :03:43.When the siren sound, Israeli people run for cover. Hamas rockets are
:03:44. > :03:49.reaching further and deeper into the country. As long as they keep
:03:50. > :03:56.coming, Israel says it will keep it in Gaza. It blames high Mass for any
:03:57. > :03:59.civilian casualties. Israel has taken great measures to avoid
:04:00. > :04:06.harming innocent civilians. Israeli defence forces war Gaza of imminent
:04:07. > :04:09.strikes. At the same time, Hamas instructs civilians to stand on the
:04:10. > :04:18.roof of those buildings and act as human shields. Israeli tanks began
:04:19. > :04:19.taking up positions near Gaza today. This has already been costly for
:04:20. > :04:27.civilians. It's one month since
:04:28. > :04:29.Iraq's second city, Mosul, fell to the Sunni
:04:30. > :04:31.militant group ISIS. Since then the group has
:04:32. > :04:33.swept across the country. They've taken control
:04:34. > :04:35.of vast areas in the north and west of Iraq,
:04:36. > :04:38.including the town of Tikrit, and there's been
:04:39. > :04:40.fierce fighting in Fallujah. The self proclaimed Islamic state
:04:41. > :04:42.now extends from the Syrian province of Aleppo
:04:43. > :04:46.to the city of Diyala in Iraq, and this yellow area is
:04:47. > :04:49.the territory As the crisis continues to unfold,
:04:50. > :04:55.the Kurdish leader has called on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki to
:04:56. > :04:57.step down, saying he is "becoming
:04:58. > :05:01.hysterical" after Mr. Maliki accused the Kurds of
:05:02. > :05:04.harbouring jihadists. Richard Barrett is Vice President of
:05:05. > :05:10.the Soufan private security group and a former coordinator of the UN's
:05:11. > :05:23.Al-Qaeda-Taliban Monitoring Team. Thank you very much for joining the
:05:24. > :05:28.programme. ISIS has taken control of this large area, it has proclaimed
:05:29. > :05:31.itself, it is one thing taking control, it is a completely
:05:32. > :05:37.different thing running an area such as this. Tell us in your opinion,
:05:38. > :05:44.have they got the capabilities of doing that? You make a very good
:05:45. > :05:50.point, it is much more difficult to run an area under your control than
:05:51. > :05:54.just to capture it. Their recruits so far have been soldiers, they have
:05:55. > :05:58.called out now for administrators to join and other people who can help
:05:59. > :06:03.them as technocrats to govern the areas they now control. But where
:06:04. > :06:07.those people are going to come from, they are not motivated in the same
:06:08. > :06:16.way as the fighters, they have a task on their hands there. How have
:06:17. > :06:21.they become so successful? I think there are two Mac reasons. First of
:06:22. > :06:25.all, they have managed to gain a whole lot of momentum by looking
:06:26. > :06:32.very effective on the battlefield, first in Syria and now in Iraq. At
:06:33. > :06:39.the flip side is that the opponents have looked so weak. Success brings
:06:40. > :06:43.success, as they have been able to advance more people have joined
:06:44. > :06:47.them, not necessarily because they are ideologically aligned, but
:06:48. > :06:53.because they see ISIS is perhaps giving them a chance to gain
:06:54. > :07:00.territory and influence, reading influence -- regain influence. Local
:07:01. > :07:05.Sunni tribes and people associated with the Saddam Hussein regime. They
:07:06. > :07:12.have also been effectively using social media. A posted gruesome
:07:13. > :07:15.images online. They have, that seems to be the main way they have
:07:16. > :07:20.attracted young fighters from overseas, through social media. They
:07:21. > :07:29.make it all look like good fun. They are banned -- a band of brothers
:07:30. > :07:31.together. But they are very intolerant and violent. This is a
:07:32. > :07:36.black and white group, you are either for or against them. If you
:07:37. > :07:40.are against them you had better watch out because you will probably
:07:41. > :07:43.not survive. People joining them will probably get disillusioned
:07:44. > :07:49.quickly, and feel that they ought to try and escape. That will affect the
:07:50. > :07:57.momentum as well. We're seeing swathes of refugees fleeing from the
:07:58. > :08:00.areas they now control. Yes, it is enormously disruptive, hundreds of
:08:01. > :08:05.thousands of Iraqis displaced on top of the millions of Syrians displaced
:08:06. > :08:10.by the fighting there. It is a very serious humanitarian problem. The
:08:11. > :08:14.Islamic state will have to deal with that. What is it going to do to
:08:15. > :08:20.provide people who are displaced in its areas of operation with food and
:08:21. > :08:24.water, health and sanitation? This is not an easy problem, even for an
:08:25. > :08:31.organisation like the United Nations. For a ragtag army of
:08:32. > :08:37.Islamist fighters, it will maybe you beyond their reach. They have got
:08:38. > :08:44.much wealth and resources, they are not that ragtag. I would still say
:08:45. > :08:47.they are ragtag. If you look at what they have done as a terrorist group,
:08:48. > :08:51.they are very effective and have been able to infiltrate places over
:08:52. > :08:55.many months and soften them up so they could take it quickly. They
:08:56. > :08:59.have been able to make alliances and so on, they have been able to rely
:09:00. > :09:06.on people who have many skills. In essence, the Islamic state is not a
:09:07. > :09:11.very big band of people who do not have very much experience in running
:09:12. > :09:18.something. They have always been fighters rather than administrators.
:09:19. > :09:21.Ragtag you may find to severe criticism, but nevertheless I do not
:09:22. > :09:28.think they are a particularly competent force. They do not have
:09:29. > :09:35.established procedures for establishing a great many soldiers,
:09:36. > :09:40.let alone a great member that man -- let alone a great many civilians.
:09:41. > :09:42.Thank you very much for your expertise.
:09:43. > :09:44.Here in the UK, emergency powers to ensure police and security services
:09:45. > :09:47.can continue to access phone and internet records
:09:48. > :09:52.Prime Minister David Cameron said urgent action was needed to
:09:53. > :09:55.protect the public from "criminals and terrorists"
:09:56. > :09:58.after the European Court of Justice struck down existing powers.
:09:59. > :10:00.But civil liberties campaigners have warned
:10:01. > :10:15.Who did you called last year? Who did you text and e-mail? When did
:10:16. > :10:21.you do it, we were you at the time? That is not just your business, see
:10:22. > :10:26.the police and security services, it is the business. They say they need
:10:27. > :10:33.the data to keep you safe. Emergency legislation has been drawn
:10:34. > :10:36.up with all-party support... This morning the Cabinet was summoned to
:10:37. > :10:41.Downing Street to be told that the three main party leaders had agreed
:10:42. > :10:47.that emergency new laws were needed. Two Mac hours later, the prime
:10:48. > :10:53.Minister, who have disagreed over these issues, faced the media to
:10:54. > :10:57.make their case together. We face real and credible threats to our
:10:58. > :11:00.security. Serious organised, from the activity of paedophiles, the
:11:01. > :11:06.collapse of Syria, the growth of ISIS in Iraq, and I am simply not
:11:07. > :11:10.prepared to be a prime minister who has to address this after a
:11:11. > :11:15.terrorist incident and explain that I could have done more to prevent
:11:16. > :11:21.it. These powers have already been used to help find the killers of
:11:22. > :11:25.this 11-year-old. To stop terrorist plots to blow up planes. But now
:11:26. > :11:28.there is a problem. Judges at the European Court of Justice ruled
:11:29. > :11:32.three months ago but the EU law under which these operations were
:11:33. > :11:37.carried out is no longer legal. Companies like Vodafone post that
:11:38. > :11:43.they protect their companies -- customers' privacy. If the law is
:11:44. > :11:48.unclear, ministers would face pressure to destroy the data they
:11:49. > :11:54.now hold. But why does a new law need to be published and passed?
:11:55. > :11:56.Does history not war is to be very suspicious of politicians who say,
:11:57. > :12:04.we all agree, there is an emergency, we need to legislate in
:12:05. > :12:08.haste. I am not standing here asking for new powers and capabilities. I
:12:09. > :12:15.am standing here saying we need to legislate, very rapidly, to keep
:12:16. > :12:22.those powers that we have. Nick Clegg says he has insisted on
:12:23. > :12:29.safeguards. It will fall, in December 2016. We are not depending
:12:30. > :12:33.permanently on the statute. The powers that will be passed next week
:12:34. > :12:37.will not give the state new powers to read our messages or to listen
:12:38. > :12:41.into our phone calls. But the politicians are under pressure from
:12:42. > :12:47.the police and the security services to take that step in future. But
:12:48. > :12:52.thanks to the revelations of this man, Edward Snowden, the politicians
:12:53. > :12:58.face pressure to snoop less and to be more transparent about what they
:12:59. > :13:01.are doing. We have engaged in detailed discussions with the
:13:02. > :13:03.government to ensure the right safeguards are in place, because
:13:04. > :13:09.there are do need to be safeguards when it comes to these kind of
:13:10. > :13:15.issues. The party leaders may agree for now but backbenchers are worried
:13:16. > :13:18.on both sides either rush to action. British people are not stupid or
:13:19. > :13:22.ideological when it comes to this kind of thing. Why can they not have
:13:23. > :13:27.time to discuss it with elected representatives? Whatever happens,
:13:28. > :13:29.the debate about who should be able to read and listen to what has long
:13:30. > :13:33.way to go. He's the Executive Director of
:13:34. > :13:37.The Open Rights Group which campaigns for
:13:38. > :13:48.digital openness. National Security Council is
:13:49. > :13:55.privacy, it is a small price to pay to be safe to lose a bit of privacy,
:13:56. > :14:01.surely? This is not ever a dichotomy between privacy and security.
:14:02. > :14:05.Generally speaking it is personal security and how that might be
:14:06. > :14:14.affected by the removal of privacy. The big problem is if the status
:14:15. > :14:19.collective, as it is, then can abuse, police can overuse powers,
:14:20. > :14:25.the future police can abuse their powers in the future, candidate be
:14:26. > :14:31.accessed by people it shouldn't? We have recently seen scandalous things
:14:32. > :14:34.with the police and the use of traditional surveillance powers
:14:35. > :14:39.putting surveillance into environmental groups, Doreen
:14:40. > :14:44.Lawrence's campaign to find out what the police were doing with her
:14:45. > :14:48.family. The police are not above using surveillance in ways which are
:14:49. > :14:52.deeply inappropriate. You should limit surveillance to what is
:14:53. > :14:58.absolutely necessary, and you should make sure the courts are supervising
:14:59. > :15:03.what the police do. Those are crucial safeguards that the European
:15:04. > :15:07.Court of Justice demanded, they are absent in this bill. We should be
:15:08. > :15:13.debating why they are absent and whether we really need them. We are
:15:14. > :15:19.talking about communications data, not the actual conversations. It is
:15:20. > :15:23.which numbers you called, what time you called them, when the Crown
:15:24. > :15:31.Prosecution Service says that 95% of all serious organised cases, handled
:15:32. > :15:37.by the CPS, meta data was used, essential. Surely it is a small
:15:38. > :15:40.price to pay? No, meta data is extremely important in crime, but
:15:41. > :15:44.equally it is something that tells a lot about who you are, what you are
:15:45. > :15:50.doing, where you are, who your friends are. We give up a lot of
:15:51. > :15:55.that information quite willingly on Facebook and different website.
:15:56. > :15:57.Again that's a problem, and you need to be able to control the
:15:58. > :16:04.relationships you are having with these private companies. They are
:16:05. > :16:10.not meant to be storing it and holding it. This bill goes in the
:16:11. > :16:16.opposite direction. It says you must store it and hoard it because the
:16:17. > :16:19.police might want to use it. If you allow anybody to start gathering
:16:20. > :16:26.this information, saying, you must gather this information, just think
:16:27. > :16:34.we're that could go and how many things. It is easy for this
:16:35. > :16:51.principle to get out of hand. Only when you need this data should you
:16:52. > :16:58.be storing it. On suspect identified in this country, 121 arrests were
:16:59. > :17:03.made possible in suspected cases, compared to Germany, where there is
:17:04. > :17:07.no such arrangement as we have here. Out of 377 German suspects, there
:17:08. > :17:12.were no arrests. This information will be held for 12 months. It seems
:17:13. > :17:17.a small price to pay for 121 arrests. Germany should be having
:17:18. > :17:21.data freezing arrangements to make it possible to make this kind of
:17:22. > :17:27.investigation. That should be in place. But we are not talking about
:17:28. > :17:31.that at the moment. Paedophiles, other kinds of investigations, it is
:17:32. > :17:34.possible to decide who you are interested in and then decide to
:17:35. > :17:38.keep the data about those individuals. This isn't about
:17:39. > :17:41.removing the capability of the police to investigate, it is about
:17:42. > :17:45.making them be a bit more careful about who and when they target, and
:17:46. > :17:50.also about restraining the possibility of abuse. I am sure we
:17:51. > :18:00.could talk about this all evening but we are out of time. Thank you.
:18:01. > :18:02.Now a look at some of the day's other news.
:18:03. > :18:05.More than a million public sector workers are on a one-day strike in
:18:06. > :18:08.the UK today in a dispute over pay, pensions and working conditions.
:18:09. > :18:10.They include teachers, firefighters, refuse collectors and council staff.
:18:11. > :18:13.Unions say it's the biggest strike to hit the Government since
:18:14. > :18:17.Ministers say they can't afford large pay increases.
:18:18. > :18:18.All Catholic Church processions in a small,
:18:19. > :18:21.southern diocese in Italy have been suspended by the local bishop.
:18:22. > :18:23.This is after it emerged that a parade took
:18:24. > :18:27.a detour in order to salute a mafia boss who was under house arrest.
:18:28. > :18:29.The mayor, police and priests were among the crowds following
:18:30. > :18:32.the large statue of the Virgin Mary as it wound its way through
:18:33. > :18:34.the town of Oppido Mamertina, before altering its route.
:18:35. > :18:43.The incident has caused national outrage.
:18:44. > :18:44.One of South Africa's most notorious figures
:18:45. > :18:48.from the apartheid era has seen his hopes for parole quashed today.
:18:49. > :18:51.Eugene De Kock, former commander of South Africa's police, is serving a
:18:52. > :18:54.212-year prison sentence for crimes committed in the apartheid era.
:18:55. > :18:58.From the early 1980s his counter-insurgency unit hunted down
:18:59. > :19:03.He was part of the team that blew up the
:19:04. > :19:07.De Kock was found guilty on 89 charges, including murder,
:19:08. > :19:20.but has claimed he was only acting on orders.
:19:21. > :19:26.Tropical Storm Neoguri, which killed three people in the south of Japan
:19:27. > :19:28.and injured several others, has been downgraded but is still causing
:19:29. > :19:37.considerable damage, as Jenny Wivell reports.
:19:38. > :19:40.The effect of several days of torrential rain. Typhoon Neoguri
:19:41. > :19:44.might have weakened to a Tropical Storm Washi its path of devastation
:19:45. > :19:50.is stretching further and further afield. Here in central Japan,
:19:51. > :19:54.conditions are perilous. Landslides have decimated huge areas of the
:19:55. > :19:58.countryside. TRANSLATION: I thought it was an
:19:59. > :20:03.earthquake at first and then Earth and sand flowed into the house. I
:20:04. > :20:07.was clinging to a wooden pillar. Here, a 12-year-old boy was killed
:20:08. > :20:12.when his house was swept away, just ten minutes before he was due to be
:20:13. > :20:17.evacuated. Two men also died when they fell into irrigation ditches.
:20:18. > :20:23.TRANSLATION: It is always scary at this time of year when there is
:20:24. > :20:26.heavy rainfall. When the storm ploughed into the western shore of
:20:27. > :20:36.this island, it was gusting at 126 mph. -- kilometres per hour. Bridges
:20:37. > :20:40.have been destroyed, cars overturned and railway lines ripped from the
:20:41. > :20:43.ground. Hundreds of flights and trains have been cancelled,
:20:44. > :20:50.including the bullet, which connects cities. Workers have a ready started
:20:51. > :20:54.to clear up debris after the storm, but as the rain continues to fall,
:20:55. > :21:04.concern over the next 24 hours is spreading across the rest of Japan.
:21:05. > :21:07.Well, it's not just the UK's security that is under scrutiny.
:21:08. > :21:09.In France, details have emerged of an alleged Al-Qaeda plot
:21:10. > :21:12.a year ago to blow up landmarks, including the Eiffel Tower.
:21:13. > :21:14.The revelations coincide with the government's announcement
:21:15. > :21:23.If you are looking for a very high-profile target in France, the
:21:24. > :21:27.first place you would think of is the Eiffel Tower, and it does seem
:21:28. > :21:31.that the Eiffel Tower was on the list of potential targets of this
:21:32. > :21:36.alleged would-be jihadist, whose e-mails have been published in the
:21:37. > :21:40.French media. One way, is said, of carrying jet had into France would
:21:41. > :21:44.be to attack the ordinary French in bars and markets, but another way
:21:45. > :21:51.would be to hit national monuments, like nuclear power stations, or like
:21:52. > :21:54.the Eiffel Tower. This man, a year ago, was about to travel out to
:21:55. > :22:00.southern Algeria for a training camp when he was arrested. The
:22:01. > :22:04.intelligence services stepped in and picked him up. It doesn't seem that
:22:05. > :22:08.this plan was anything more than rudimentary. There is no suggestion
:22:09. > :22:14.that anything was about to happen, but this is the point, it is exactly
:22:15. > :22:18.this type of contact between radicalised French nationalists,
:22:19. > :22:24.residents here, and foreign-based jihadi groups, that is the nightmare
:22:25. > :22:28.of French governments. And now, with hundreds of people travelling out to
:22:29. > :22:35.Syria to join ISIS and other extremist groups out there, the fear
:22:36. > :22:39.is that some of them will return to France, motivated, desensitised to
:22:40. > :22:42.the most appalling violence, and ready to carry the fight back here
:22:43. > :22:47.in France. Reports from Berlin say the German
:22:48. > :22:50.government is to expel a top American diplomat who represents the
:22:51. > :22:53.secret service at the US embassy. A representative for the country's
:22:54. > :22:56.parliament said the action is being taken because of American spying
:22:57. > :22:58.on German politicians, and failure to cooperate with German
:22:59. > :23:16.attempts to get information. Steve, the relationship between
:23:17. > :23:24.Germany and the US was not exactly amicable to begin with. This will
:23:25. > :23:28.make it even worse. A year ago it looked very amicable. President
:23:29. > :23:32.Obama came to Berlin and was greeted by Chancellor Merkel, very friendly
:23:33. > :23:35.body language, and it looks like a sunny relationship. But it then
:23:36. > :23:43.transpired that her mobile phone was being eavesdropped by his security
:23:44. > :23:48.people in the embassy. In the last month we have had the revelation,
:23:49. > :23:52.the discovery of two American agents working for the German government.
:23:53. > :23:55.One of them actually working with secret documents for a parliamentary
:23:56. > :24:02.committee actually investigating spying. Given all that, there has
:24:03. > :24:05.been anger among German politicians. Chancellor Merkel and
:24:06. > :24:08.other politicians have gone to the American government and said, can
:24:09. > :24:13.you explain this, can you assure us that is not going to happen? They
:24:14. > :24:19.have not had satisfaction, so the government, and that means her in
:24:20. > :24:24.this case, has decided that the man responsible for security matters in
:24:25. > :24:29.the embassy, the man, the CIA person, man or woman, we don't know,
:24:30. > :24:34.will be expelled. The German government does not use the word
:24:35. > :24:40.expelled. It says, asked to leave, but it is expelled. It is certainly
:24:41. > :24:47.different from the amicable pictures of the two families together. What
:24:48. > :24:54.do they do next? How do they try to bridge the gap and bring those
:24:55. > :25:02.relationships back together? They keep talking, I think. Angela Merkel
:25:03. > :25:07.is in a difficult position. Because she is angry. She was angry and
:25:08. > :25:12.probably remains angry. But at the same time, she is quite pragmatic,
:25:13. > :25:18.and she doesn't want to dent this relationship more than she has to.
:25:19. > :25:22.But with each new revelation, people around her in the Parliament get
:25:23. > :25:29.more difficult to control, if you like, as she might see it. At some
:25:30. > :25:34.stage, without some kind of threat of a worsening of relationships that
:25:35. > :25:38.harms real politics, if you like, it's hard to see how anything
:25:39. > :25:44.changes, apart from continued grouchy nurse. -- continued grouchy
:25:45. > :25:48.behaviour. An American pilot whose flight was
:25:49. > :25:51.forced to land because of bad weather managed to keep
:25:52. > :25:53.his passengers happy when they were forced to sit in
:25:54. > :25:56.the plane for hours on the ground. Speaking to BBC Radio,
:25:57. > :25:58.Captain Bradner explained his decision to order 50 takeaway
:25:59. > :26:00.pizzas to be delivered to I ordered half cheese
:26:01. > :26:06.and half pepperoni, a safe choice, And we consider the passengers
:26:07. > :26:23.our extended family. And once they set foot on my
:26:24. > :26:26.aircraft, I will take care of them. If that includes feeding them,
:26:27. > :26:29.so be it. The president of the company called
:26:30. > :26:44.me and insisted on reimbursing me. I am not a hero,
:26:45. > :27:05.I just ordered pizza. In has been a mixed bag of weather
:27:06. > :27:07.over the last 24