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:00:14. > :00:16.The authorities say they have prevented a major new attack

:00:17. > :00:27.A woman blew herself up and the following today's raid linked to

:00:28. > :00:28.A woman blew herself up and the suspect was shot dead after armed

:00:29. > :00:31.officers stormed the department suspect was shot dead after armed

:00:32. > :00:45.dawn raid in the suburb of Saint Eight people were arrested. French

:00:46. > :00:53.officials confirmed the suspected mastermind and accomplice were not

:00:54. > :00:59.among those detained. The identity of the people who were arrested are

:01:00. > :01:05.not absolutely certain. But Abaaoud and Abdeslam are not part of the

:01:06. > :01:10.people who have been arrested. More than 1000 people have taken part in

:01:11. > :01:19.a district of Brussels where one of the key suspects had lived.

:01:20. > :01:24.Including the brother and cousin of Sala Abdeslam, one of the wanted men

:01:25. > :01:46.who stepped out onto the balcony of their home to mourn the victims.

:01:47. > :01:53.Hello and welcome to Paris. After a day of drama and more bloodshed. A

:01:54. > :01:58.raid by police this morning just before dawn left to suspected

:01:59. > :02:03.terrorists dead and eight people under arrest. It's not clear though,

:02:04. > :02:07.if France's most wanted man, the ringleader who was believed to have

:02:08. > :02:12.organised last Friday's atrocities, was among the dead. He certainly

:02:13. > :02:18.wasn't detained. Let's bring you the latest. The French authorities are

:02:19. > :02:22.saying they believe today's raid may have thwarted another major attack,

:02:23. > :02:29.this time in Paris's financial district. This morning's predawn

:02:30. > :02:34.raid took place about 12 kilometres north of where I am standing, in the

:02:35. > :02:39.suburb of Saint Denis, which is very close to the stat to France, which

:02:40. > :02:50.was targeted by the militants on Friday, killed dozens of people. The

:02:51. > :02:56.area has a high proportion of people from ethnic minorities. Heavily

:02:57. > :03:00.armed police were deployed, the one of the main shopping streets. The

:03:01. > :03:07.actual apartment which was the target of their operation was on a

:03:08. > :03:13.side street. In a moment we will hear from the Paris prosecutor but

:03:14. > :03:19.before we listen to him, it must be pointed out that France's most

:03:20. > :03:25.wanted man, Abaaoud, the man they believed had been in Syria, it's not

:03:26. > :03:30.clear if he is among the two dead suspected terrorists, killed in this

:03:31. > :03:34.morning's raid. The female suspected terrorist charged police with a

:03:35. > :03:39.suicide vest before blowing herself up, it's reported. First, this

:03:40. > :03:42.report by Lucy Williamson. In the darkened streets

:03:43. > :03:48.of this northern suburb, France is The target,

:03:49. > :03:55.the country's most wanted man, Abdelhamid Abaaoud, alleged

:03:56. > :04:00.mastermind of Friday's attacks. If ever a raid was personal,

:04:01. > :04:05.this was it. Residents were pulled from buildings

:04:06. > :04:08.in their nightclothes. The scale and threat of this

:04:09. > :04:13.operation quickly becoming clear. I tried to protect myself,

:04:14. > :04:15.holding my baby tight. They were explosions,

:04:16. > :04:18.we felt the building shake, there were guys upstairs screaming,

:04:19. > :04:23."shoot, shoot". By first light as special forces

:04:24. > :04:25.carried out their assault, A woman inside the building had

:04:26. > :04:34.detonated her suicide vest. I heard gunfire, it went crazy,

:04:35. > :04:40.gunshots, explosions, here, there, It went on for ages,

:04:41. > :04:45.people were running everywhere. I didn't see anything terrible but I

:04:46. > :04:49.heard gunshots, snipers were firing, taking careful aim. There was a huge

:04:50. > :04:53.wave of bullets. By eight o'clock,

:04:54. > :05:00.with two suspects dead in the target Dozens of soldiers, brought

:05:01. > :05:06.in to help secure the streets. This dawn raid has turned

:05:07. > :05:14.into a major operation. Truckloads of soldiers have been

:05:15. > :05:17.brought in after hours It's a sign

:05:18. > :05:22.of just how dangerous the hunt is Without warning, riot police

:05:23. > :05:28.break through their cordon, fanning It's nothing, it's over quickly,

:05:29. > :05:38.but the jitteriness remains. Out of sight in an empty courtyard,

:05:39. > :05:44.the rewards of this assault are In all, seven people were arrested

:05:45. > :05:53.this morning, including this man. Handcuffed, under heavy guard,

:05:54. > :05:57.his face uncovered. Police have been hunting one

:05:58. > :06:00.of Friday's attackers. In his wake,

:06:01. > :06:06.clutching their children, terrified, Behind them at the building

:06:07. > :06:16.entrance, forces begin to pile in. Above them,

:06:17. > :06:24.residents slowly absorbed the news. The attacks here last week targeted

:06:25. > :06:27.everyone, but just as hard for France to stomach is that anyone

:06:28. > :06:45.can be an attacker too. In the past hour, the executed has

:06:46. > :06:51.said that the raid had eliminated the team of suspected jihad ease

:06:52. > :06:59.behind Friday's attack and also said they had been planning new attacks

:07:00. > :07:05.here in the capital. -- the team of suspected jihad thes. The operation

:07:06. > :07:12.was successful in that three men were arrested, one of them was

:07:13. > :07:17.injured, the police arrested them and identification is being done at

:07:18. > :07:22.the moment. I cannot have you any element regarding these people at

:07:23. > :07:26.the moment. There was also an explosion which suggested there was

:07:27. > :07:31.a kamikaze operation, a body full of impact was found in the rubble of

:07:32. > :07:38.the building. At this stage it's not possible to identify this person who

:07:39. > :07:45.did the state of the body. We have been given to an explosion following

:07:46. > :07:49.the action of a woman who detonated an explosive belt, this will have to

:07:50. > :07:56.be checked still considering the state of the bodies and the shreds

:07:57. > :08:01.of bodies, so this demands serious investigation and it's not easy.

:08:02. > :08:08.Would we have seen in the building makes it extremely difficult. I am

:08:09. > :08:11.not able to give you precise information about the identity of

:08:12. > :08:16.these people who have died, except there are at least two people dead,

:08:17. > :08:24.but it will take longer than expected because the building may

:08:25. > :08:28.collapse, so we have the support some of the ball to allow the

:08:29. > :08:35.enquiry team to work in safety. -- some of the wall. We found two men,

:08:36. > :08:43.one of them in the flat, one of them injured, they were immediately

:08:44. > :08:49.arrested. Other operations continue in another flat in Saint Denis, at

:08:50. > :08:57.the home of a man who was in touch with the commando and may have given

:08:58. > :09:07.accommodation. This flat was empty but I -- I suspect was arrested in

:09:08. > :09:11.the street near the flat where the terrorists have found refuge

:09:12. > :09:22.together with a woman. The search in the flat has not brought any weapon

:09:23. > :09:29.or explosive forward so far. Another was also injured in the road has

:09:30. > :09:33.also been arrested. In total, eight people have been arrested, seven men

:09:34. > :09:45.and one woman are currently being interrogated. The identity of the

:09:46. > :09:47.four who were arrested are not certain, but Abaaoud and Abdeslam

:09:48. > :09:54.are not part of the people who have been arrested. The investigation

:09:55. > :09:57.will continue to identify those who were killed, those who are arrested

:09:58. > :10:03.and all those who make have been implicated in one way or another in

:10:04. > :10:11.this attack, either in France or in Syria.

:10:12. > :10:21.It may last for days, people have been coming here to lay flowers and

:10:22. > :10:24.candles -- in the last four base. People have said yes, they hoped

:10:25. > :10:28.they could feel more relieved that they were worried about what might

:10:29. > :10:32.come in the future, especially as they now understood and believed

:10:33. > :10:39.President Hollande that this country was now at war with Isla make state,

:10:40. > :10:46.or Daesh, as he described it. -- Islamic State. Let's speak to a

:10:47. > :10:49.Paris journalist who knows the Saint Denis area well and the other

:10:50. > :10:54.ghettos, as some have described them, where a lot of North African

:10:55. > :10:58.immigrants live. What is your immediate response to today, it laid

:10:59. > :11:06.Paris any safer if Abaaoud has been killed? Many questions need to be

:11:07. > :11:10.answered, we don't have the identities of the terrorists yet, it

:11:11. > :11:16.maybe they are part of a larger network in the rest of France, and

:11:17. > :11:19.it's worrying that this guy was supposed to be in Syria and was

:11:20. > :11:24.basically hiding in plain sight under the nose of the Paris police

:11:25. > :11:28.forces. This raises a lot of questions. The fact he may be

:11:29. > :11:33.killed, maybe it makes the city say just for now but it doesn't mean the

:11:34. > :11:38.terrorist threat is gone. There are many other suburbs like Saint Denis.

:11:39. > :11:45.Where does the radicalisation take place? There are two things, you

:11:46. > :11:49.have these huge suburbs, not only in Paris but in other large cities of

:11:50. > :11:53.the country, there are about 20 million people living in them, these

:11:54. > :11:57.are not serenade bad neighbourhoods but there are some very bad

:11:58. > :12:06.neighbourhoods, much worse than you would encounter in the UK. 'S is not

:12:07. > :12:10.even particularly bad, it's an old city, it's well-connected to the

:12:11. > :12:15.city -- Saint Denis is not even particularly bad. But there are

:12:16. > :12:21.places with no post office, no police, they feel disconnected with

:12:22. > :12:24.the country, and these areas are prone to radicalisation because

:12:25. > :12:28.sometimes the mosques or the churches, in this case the mosque,

:12:29. > :12:34.they are the only one who provide a social network. What about the

:12:35. > :12:38.prison system? That's also an important problem lot of these

:12:39. > :12:46.radicalised young people come in as petty thieves or drug dealers,

:12:47. > :12:50.stealing a car, they get out of the prison as radical potential

:12:51. > :12:54.terrorists because the situation in these prisons are horrible, most of

:12:55. > :12:58.them date from the 19th century, France has been convicted many times

:12:59. > :13:02.the European Court of Human Rights for their inhumane conditions so

:13:03. > :13:08.this is a perfect situation the newly young people and radicalise

:13:09. > :13:12.them and that's the real problem. We have seen all the terrorists

:13:13. > :13:17.involved and also with Charlie Hebdo, they all went to prison and

:13:18. > :13:22.came out as radicalised terrorists. How much will the next and it's a

:13:23. > :13:28.double emergency help the authorities and what is the

:13:29. > :13:31.counter-productive side? I am critical of this because it

:13:32. > :13:36.basically says we're going to put democracy on hold for three months,

:13:37. > :13:42.who says it will not be extended again and again? It's worrying

:13:43. > :13:49.because the French president and the French government already have all

:13:50. > :13:51.the stuff they need to attack terrorists, for instance what

:13:52. > :13:55.happened the night, they could have done that without a state of

:13:56. > :13:59.emergency from a legal point of view. So the state of emergency is

:14:00. > :14:05.just to show the French people, we are at war, we are doing something,

:14:06. > :14:12.I am the leader, you can trust me and let me do this. In three weeks

:14:13. > :14:15.from now, there are regional elections, very important one,

:14:16. > :14:22.Hollande is doing very badly in the polls, the leader of the National

:14:23. > :14:29.front is properly going to win so what Hollande announced on Monday is

:14:30. > :14:35.his way to allure boaters from the right to him. His critics will say

:14:36. > :14:42.he is in charge of intelligence agencies that have failed. Is that

:14:43. > :14:48.fair? It's too early to judge. If you see the terrorists who was the

:14:49. > :14:51.brain behind these attacks was hiding in Paris, he was supposed to

:14:52. > :14:57.be in Syria, it shows there is a real problem. At the heart of the

:14:58. > :14:59.problem is the exchange of information between intelligence

:15:00. > :15:05.services and the analysis of the data because a lot of people are

:15:06. > :15:09.under severe lives in France alone, 11,000 people are understood

:15:10. > :15:16.available, but the problem is you can't check all this data because

:15:17. > :15:19.there are not enough people. You can put thousands of literary personnel

:15:20. > :15:22.on the streets but as long as you intelligence services don't work

:15:23. > :15:29.properly we will continue to have these attacks. Let's go to the UK

:15:30. > :15:36.now and speak to a former counterterrorist detective, who is

:15:37. > :15:41.now a lecturer at Liverpool John Moores University. We are still not

:15:42. > :15:45.clear about the identity of two of the suspects killed today but in the

:15:46. > :15:52.short term, has Paris acted swiftly enough to get on top of this problem

:15:53. > :15:57.in the immediate short-term? I think this has been a major move for the

:15:58. > :16:02.better and if it is confirmed that Abaaoud has been captured,

:16:03. > :16:07.especially alive, this has been quite a coup, and it will certainly

:16:08. > :16:14.reduce the capability of Islamic State in the short-term, because you

:16:15. > :16:18.look at how cells operate, you still beat some organisation and I think

:16:19. > :16:35.the arrests in Belgium and France will have had some effect. If

:16:36. > :16:45.I briefly lost communication there. We know that the two hasn't been

:16:46. > :16:50.captured, what is unclear is if he may be one of the dead terrorists --

:16:51. > :16:59.we know that Abaaoud hasn't been captured. When it comes to the

:17:00. > :17:03.surveillance, though, is this really another wake-up call for all

:17:04. > :17:07.European countries to be far more amateur night, come together much

:17:08. > :17:12.more with sharing intelligence? I think so. On the policing side,

:17:13. > :17:16.because you have the security services and the police, there is a

:17:17. > :17:22.greater degree of sharing amongst policing agencies and through

:17:23. > :17:29.agencies like the EU, it is a sticking point when we were

:17:30. > :17:33.discussing the Treaty of Lisbon in 2009 over the sharing of

:17:34. > :17:38.intelligence services, maybe this could be one way forward, an

:17:39. > :17:41.increase in sharing this. We are looking at a group that is a truly

:17:42. > :17:46.international threat, you look at the actions they have done over the

:17:47. > :17:51.last 12 months. So it needs that international response. So the

:17:52. > :17:58.security services and the police should now really look to share this

:17:59. > :18:03.information amongst each other. Russia is involved in this. Even

:18:04. > :18:15.looking to sharing information with the FSB and vice versa.

:18:16. > :18:24.Thank you very much indeed. There is a very strong Belgian connection

:18:25. > :18:29.here as we have seen. The mastermind is a Belgian national and it does

:18:30. > :18:35.seem as if these attacks last Friday were planned in Syria, the teams

:18:36. > :18:39.were then put together through Belgium and then executed here in

:18:40. > :18:49.Paris with the help of compasses here in France as well. --

:18:50. > :18:52.compasses. The Brussels district of Molenbeek is linked particularly

:18:53. > :18:57.with Friday's attacks and today there has been a vigil in memory of

:18:58. > :19:03.those who lost their lives on Friday. This is the central square

:19:04. > :19:06.in Molenbeek, you will be able to see that hundreds have come here

:19:07. > :19:17.tonight to lay candles. The positioning thing along the word

:19:18. > :19:21.Molenbeek. And the 00 over here has a peace sign, or perhaps the Eiffel

:19:22. > :19:26.Tower, Finley how you want to read it. Lots of young people as well,

:19:27. > :19:31.we're that the mayor in this square this evening, lots of people

:19:32. > :19:37.standing in solidarity with the victims in Paris. Interestingly,

:19:38. > :19:43.this is also a square just in front of the apartment of the Abdeslam

:19:44. > :19:51.family, you will see candles shining on the balcony. A few minutes ago,

:19:52. > :19:54.Mohammed Abdeslam, who is the brother of the man who is still on

:19:55. > :20:01.the run, came out to lay candles, their family are still in shock.

:20:02. > :20:09.Mohammed asked yesterday for his brother to give yourself up. This is

:20:10. > :20:14.an effort by the community to show there is solidarity, remember there

:20:15. > :20:24.are three attackers from here, there is now an international manhunt and

:20:25. > :20:36.the secure the's office has told me that the manhunt is ongoing.

:20:37. > :20:41.Hazard-macro said the aim of the raids was to

:20:42. > :20:53.these actions confirm again that we are at war. The war against

:20:54. > :21:02.terrorism which itself has decided to launch war against us. The

:21:03. > :21:13.jihadist organisation of ISIL, it has an army, financial sources,

:21:14. > :21:26.oil, resources and it occupies a territory, it has accomplices in

:21:27. > :21:31.Europe and in our own country. ISIL has committed massacres and wants to

:21:32. > :21:41.commit murders here and it has done so. At least 129 people were

:21:42. > :21:46.killed, lost their lives on the night of the 13th of November. Our

:21:47. > :21:53.thoughts are with them, with these men and women who have been cowardly

:21:54. > :22:07.assassinated, we're thinking about their families, who have been thrown

:22:08. > :22:13.into pain, grief. But these attacks concern all the French, wherever

:22:14. > :22:19.they live in French territory, because it is the entire country

:22:20. > :22:29.that has been attacked, for the simple reason that it represents,

:22:30. > :22:37.the values it holds, we want to eradicate terrorism, and for the

:22:38. > :22:46.simple reason of what we are. Aim of the terrorists was to target the

:22:47. > :22:53.idea of France itself. The liberty that France has, universal

:22:54. > :22:56.right-sided defends, -- universal rights that its defends, this is

:22:57. > :23:03.what has been attacked during the night of the 13th of November.

:23:04. > :23:08.Because these barbaric people in their blind violence have targeted

:23:09. > :23:16.the diversity of the French people, irrespective of the origin, colour,

:23:17. > :23:21.religion. It is the use of France that was the target, because it

:23:22. > :23:25.represented the vitality, the generosity and the liberty, simply

:23:26. > :23:31.speaking, life. A man whose wife died

:23:32. > :23:34.in the attacks last week has written Antoine Leiris says he will never

:23:35. > :23:38.forget Helene but he and their little boy will not be

:23:39. > :23:42.made to live in fear or hate. On Friday night, you stole away

:23:43. > :23:47.the life of an exceptional being. The love of my life,

:23:48. > :23:49.the mother of my son. I do not know who you are and I

:23:50. > :23:57.don't want to know. If the God for whom you

:23:58. > :24:05.kill so blindly made us in his image, each bullet in my wife's body

:24:06. > :24:14.would mean a wound in his heart. Therefore, I will not give you

:24:15. > :24:21.the gift of hating you. Responding to hatred with anger

:24:22. > :24:24.would be to give in to the same ignorance that has

:24:25. > :24:29.made you what you are. You want me to be afraid,

:24:30. > :24:34.to cast a mistrustful eye on my fellow citizens, to sacrifice

:24:35. > :24:39.my freedom for security, you lost. I saw her this morning, she was just

:24:40. > :24:44.as beautiful as she was when she left home on Friday evening, as

:24:45. > :24:47.beautiful as when I fell madly in love with her more than 12 years

:24:48. > :24:52.ago. Of course I am devastated with

:24:53. > :24:55.grief, I know that she will join us every

:24:56. > :25:05.day and that we will find each other again in the paradise of free souls

:25:06. > :25:24.which you will never have access to. The Paris prosecutor,

:25:25. > :25:28.Francois Molins, says a pre-dawn raid by police

:25:29. > :25:31.on an apartment in the city stopped At a news conference, he said eight

:25:32. > :25:36.people had been arrested during the operation, but they didn't include

:25:37. > :25:39.the suspected mastermind of Friday's At least two bodies were found

:25:40. > :25:45.in the apartment in Saint-Denis after the shoot out with police, but

:25:46. > :25:50.they have not yet been identified. Police are still looking for

:25:51. > :25:56.another suspect, Salah Abdelsalam.