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:00:00. > :00:00.This is BBC World News Today, with me, Karin Giannone.

:00:07. > :00:11.The official verdict - Flight MH17 was downed

:00:12. > :00:16.by an anti-aircraft missile, moved into Ukraine from Russia.

:00:17. > :00:19.The disaster in 2014 killed nearly 300 people: Russia dismisses

:00:20. > :00:31.We cannot accept as the final truth what they have said. We have not

:00:32. > :00:34.seen any proofs of their statement. Families of the 9/11 victims

:00:35. > :00:36.could now take legal action against the Saudi Government

:00:37. > :00:38.as President Obama's Also coming up: Tributes to one

:00:39. > :00:42.of the defining figures of Middle East politics -

:00:43. > :00:44.Israel's Shimon Peres - And English football

:00:45. > :00:51.is in chaos as misconduct leads the national team coach to leave

:00:52. > :01:08.after just one game. Two years after nearly 300

:01:09. > :01:14.people were killed over the skies of eastern Ukraine,

:01:15. > :01:16.a team of international prosecutors have provided evidence they say

:01:17. > :01:22.shows Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 was downed by a missile

:01:23. > :01:25.that came from Russia. In a news conference

:01:26. > :01:29.in the Netherlands, they also narrowed down the area it was fired

:01:30. > :01:33.from to a field in a territory And they say they've established

:01:34. > :01:40.the identities of about 100 people Moscow and the rebel

:01:41. > :01:43.groups reject the claims, Caught in the crossfire

:01:44. > :01:49.of someone else's war, in busy skies that were meant

:01:50. > :01:54.to be safe. Nearly 300 people were on Flight

:01:55. > :01:59.MH17, 80 of them children. It was brought down

:02:00. > :02:06.by a Russian-built missile. Both sides in the war have them,

:02:07. > :02:09.but now criminal investigators say they are closing in

:02:10. > :02:13.on those responsible. TRANSLATION: On the 17th of July,

:02:14. > :02:15.Flight MH17 was shot It was brought in from

:02:16. > :02:22.the Russian Federation territory This recreation from investigators

:02:23. > :02:31.suggests the missile launcher crossed over the Russian border

:02:32. > :02:37.on the morning MH17 was shot down. Here is a tapped mobile

:02:38. > :02:40.phone call from 9:22am. An officer tells his commander,

:02:41. > :02:43.it crossed, crossed the line. The line he is talking

:02:44. > :02:47.about is the Russian border. There's no attempt to hide

:02:48. > :02:49.the launcher, which is sat Lots of people took

:02:50. > :02:55.pictures and films and put Here, it's parked up in a lay-by

:02:56. > :03:00.in the city of Donetsk. The final destination was a farmer's

:03:01. > :03:03.field which was near a town controlled by

:03:04. > :03:07.Russian-backed separatists. Firing left these scorch

:03:08. > :03:10.marks on the ground. Locals took pictures

:03:11. > :03:13.of the smoke trail. It is then filmed

:03:14. > :03:15.heading back to Russia. Crucially, one of its missiles

:03:16. > :03:19.is now missing. Moscow has always fought

:03:20. > :03:25.claims it is involved. We have been ruling out and I have

:03:26. > :03:28.been ruling out the fact that any Russian weapons were shipped

:03:29. > :03:33.to Ukraine, that any Russian Army members, any Russian troops

:03:34. > :03:39.were inside Ukraine. And we are still ruling

:03:40. > :03:41.out that possibility. Bryce Fredericks and his girlfriend,

:03:42. > :03:45.Daisy, were on board MH17, We are not there yet,

:03:46. > :03:56.we do not yet know the names Investigators say that they are

:03:57. > :04:03.down to 100 suspects Even if they do eventually name

:04:04. > :04:09.names, it is by no means certain that whoever did this will face

:04:10. > :04:16.a court of law. Michael Bociurkiw was one

:04:17. > :04:19.of the first people at the scene of the crash in his former role

:04:20. > :04:30.with the Organisation For Security We can speak to him now. Welcome.

:04:31. > :04:35.When you look at what was presented today, the linking up of the photos

:04:36. > :04:39.and videos, they intercepted phone calls, how meticulous do you believe

:04:40. > :04:46.this report to be? It is very meticulous, I am very struck by the

:04:47. > :04:50.meticulousness of the forensic work. The fact that witnesses from rebel

:04:51. > :04:54.held areas in the Ukraine came forward and talk to investigators

:04:55. > :04:59.and they were in prison for doing that. Also, when you think about the

:05:00. > :05:02.amount of evidence that has been retrieved from what everyone has

:05:03. > :05:07.caught the biggest crime scene in the world, something like 35% of the

:05:08. > :05:12.aircraft was moved back to the Netherlands, living containers of

:05:13. > :05:16.soil and body parts. Very interesting forensic work has been

:05:17. > :05:22.done. They found fragments of the missile in some of the bodies of the

:05:23. > :05:26.cockpit crew in the aircraft. I am also very struck as I watched the

:05:27. > :05:30.investigators, their confidence and baldness because if you remember

:05:31. > :05:35.going back to those first few days, they were relatively late coming

:05:36. > :05:38.into the Netherlands to investigate but with the access and more

:05:39. > :05:43.determination they were able to get there and collect the evidence quite

:05:44. > :05:47.quickly. We have this conclusive report that you see here. We have

:05:48. > :05:51.heard this today, but then we have the reaction of Russia, simply a

:05:52. > :05:54.refusal to accept this. They say it is politically motivated, where does

:05:55. > :06:01.this leave things when one party will not accept the findings?

:06:02. > :06:04.Clearly we are in the propaganda war and watching the press conference

:06:05. > :06:08.you can see what I would call some interesting questions to the Russian

:06:09. > :06:13.media. I expected that reaction from Russia. What came out today, saying

:06:14. > :06:17.that the mis-sell came from the Russian Federation and was returned

:06:18. > :06:22.there and fire from rebel held territory, that does not surprise me

:06:23. > :06:30.or any of my colleagues. The things that the families will be looking

:06:31. > :06:35.for is, if they're the willing contribution internationally to

:06:36. > :06:39.solve this? They did not say specifically hoodie. The individuals

:06:40. > :06:44.were behind this. They did not, but they said there was more work to be

:06:45. > :06:48.done. They also said they had more than enough evidence. This is quite

:06:49. > :06:52.surprising. It indicates to me that they can move forward with the

:06:53. > :06:57.prosecution but one more quick thing, I have returned from Ukraine

:06:58. > :07:00.and we heard there and the politicians from France telling us

:07:01. > :07:06.it was time to put sanctions against Russia, that leads me to think the

:07:07. > :07:10.political will will be present to pressure Russia to return suspect if

:07:11. > :07:11.they can find them. We are out of time, thank you very

:07:12. > :07:30.much. You can find more in-depth analysis

:07:31. > :07:33.of the flight MH17 disaster on our website, that includes maps and

:07:34. > :07:36.animations of what we know. Just head over to the BBC News website.

:07:37. > :07:38."The most embarrassing action by lawmakers in years" -

:07:39. > :07:41.that's how the White House has reacted to a move to allow victims

:07:42. > :07:44.of the 9/11 attacks on America to take legal action

:07:45. > :07:47.It's the first time Congress has overridden President Obama's

:07:48. > :07:53.I urge my colleagues to move swiftly and soundly to reverse this veto so

:07:54. > :07:58.that these families can have their day in court. That is what the legal

:07:59. > :08:03.system of this country is designed to do. These families will never get

:08:04. > :08:06.back their loved ones. But they deserve justice.

:08:07. > :08:10.The BBC's Barbara Plett is in Washington.

:08:11. > :08:15.Strong words from the White House, bring us up to date as to what is

:08:16. > :08:21.happening there and why we have got here.

:08:22. > :08:25.Well, we have been having votes in Congress today, the Senate has voted

:08:26. > :08:30.and the house is voting now to override a veto of a bill that would

:08:31. > :08:34.allow the families of the 9/11 families to take Saudi Arabia to

:08:35. > :08:39.court, alleging that the government was complicit in the 911 attacks.

:08:40. > :08:41.This has been bubbling on for years, suspicions have been the and the

:08:42. > :08:46.investigations have been there but the families have not been able to

:08:47. > :08:47.take Saudi Arabia to court because of a principle called sovereign

:08:48. > :09:06.immunity that means that foreign companies are protected from certain

:09:07. > :09:09.lawsuits. That protects the US and is why President Obama is against

:09:10. > :09:11.this bill. He has said it is a matter of national security and if

:09:12. > :09:14.it becomes law then our officials are at risk overseas. We could be

:09:15. > :09:16.taken to court, we have a lot of special operations, CIA agents, the

:09:17. > :09:19.Nativity and lots of different countries, so it is something that

:09:20. > :09:22.could be a risk for us, that is what he says. He has backed his director

:09:23. > :09:25.and so on. As you heard from the congressman, the overriding feeling

:09:26. > :09:28.in Congress is sympathy for the 911 victims and the feeling that they

:09:29. > :09:32.deserve their day in court and Saudi Arabia is not guilty, it should not

:09:33. > :09:38.be worried but if it is, it be prosecuted. Because of that, it

:09:39. > :09:41.looks like this will be the first veto override for President Obama on

:09:42. > :09:45.something he considers quite serious. The final say in the end

:09:46. > :09:52.will be from Congress, not the President? That is correct. He can

:09:53. > :09:55.veto a bill but Congress can override that if it gets two thirds

:09:56. > :09:59.of the vote in both the Senate and the house. It got an overwhelming

:10:00. > :10:03.vote in the Senate today and it seems most likely that will be the

:10:04. > :10:08.case in the House. Thank you, Barbara, for bringing us up to date.

:10:09. > :10:14.We will continue to update you on developments as we get them.

:10:15. > :10:16.Now a look at some of the day's other news.

:10:17. > :10:19.The US has threatened to end Syrian peace talks with Russia,

:10:20. > :10:21.because of the military offensive against Aleppo.

:10:22. > :10:23.Secretary of Sate John Kerry says he holds Russia responsible

:10:24. > :10:25.for the situation there, including the use of

:10:26. > :10:28.The UN Secretary-General has described what's happening as "worse

:10:29. > :10:33.Thailand's military government has allowed a "culture of torture"

:10:34. > :10:36.to flourish since assuming power - that's according to a new report by

:10:37. > :10:39.It lists 74 alleged cases of torture and other ill-treatment,

:10:40. > :10:41.including methods such as beatings and waterboarding,

:10:42. > :10:47.The presidential debate between Hillary Clinton

:10:48. > :10:50.and Donald Trump was watched by 84 million people on US TV -

:10:51. > :10:52.breaking a previous record set 36 years ago.

:10:53. > :10:54.Jimmy Carter and Ronald Reagan's debate drew

:10:55. > :11:01.The viewing figures only count those who watched the debate on the US TV

:11:02. > :11:03.channels that carried it live, meaning the true figure

:11:04. > :11:12.World leaders have been paying tribute to the Israeli statesman

:11:13. > :11:14.and Nobel Peace Prize winner, Shimon Peres, who's

:11:15. > :11:19.He's been described as one of Israel's founding fathers,

:11:20. > :11:22.and twice served as prime minister and later as president.

:11:23. > :11:24.He'd been in hospital after suffering a stroke.

:11:25. > :11:33.Israel has lost the grandfather of the nation, born before the state,

:11:34. > :11:41.Shimon Peres was a key figure in the region,

:11:42. > :11:43.and on the world stage, where he was celebrated

:11:44. > :11:49.Israel's Prime Minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, among

:11:50. > :11:57.Shimon devoted his life to our nation and to

:11:58. > :12:01.the pursuit of peace, he set his gaze on the future,

:12:02. > :12:04.he did so much to protect our people.

:12:05. > :12:07.He worked to his last days for peace, and for a

:12:08. > :12:15.There was this reaction from the US Secretary of State, John Kerry.

:12:16. > :12:18.He dedicated his life to the cause of an Israel that would be safe

:12:19. > :12:27.And the homeland of the Jewish people.

:12:28. > :12:31.He was born in Poland in 1923 and came to the holy land as a child

:12:32. > :12:34.when it was still under British rule.

:12:35. > :12:39.He worked alongside Israel's founding father, negotiating deals

:12:40. > :12:45.that helped the new nation become a formidable military power.

:12:46. > :12:48.Shimon Peres was a driving force behind Israel's nuclear programme,

:12:49. > :12:50.and a supporter of Israeli settlements on occupied

:12:51. > :12:59.At the Israeli Parliament this evening, flags flying at half-mast,

:13:00. > :13:04.for the last of the generation who built the state.

:13:05. > :13:08.Shimon Peres was first elected to Parliament in 1959,

:13:09. > :13:10.and here, at the Knesset, for decades, he helped

:13:11. > :13:18.He held virtually every major post, and during his

:13:19. > :13:21.long years in politics, his political views changed.

:13:22. > :13:28.The man who was a security hawk became a champion of peace.

:13:29. > :13:31.Shimon Peres was one of the architects of the Oslo

:13:32. > :13:33.accords, Israel's first peace deal with the Palestinians,

:13:34. > :13:43.What we are doing today is more than signing an agreement.

:13:44. > :13:56.Yesterday, a dream, today, a commitment.

:13:57. > :13:58.He shared a Nobel Prize with the late Palestinian leader,

:13:59. > :14:00.Yasser Arafat, and the then Israeli Prime Minister,

:14:01. > :14:05.Today he was described as a partner for peace

:14:06. > :14:07.by the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, but others

:14:08. > :14:17.Everybody here remembers him as the man who lost the opportunity

:14:18. > :14:19.for real peace, by deceiving the Palestinians.

:14:20. > :14:21.And ending up deceiving the cause of peace.

:14:22. > :14:23.Supporters say that Shimon Peres wanted peace for the next

:14:24. > :14:28.generation, and kept working for it until his last days.

:14:29. > :14:30.He insisted there was no alternative.

:14:31. > :14:39.Without him, that view may be heard less often here.

:14:40. > :14:41.The life of President Shimon Peres mirrors the turbulent history

:14:42. > :14:44.The BBC's chief international correspondent, Lyse Doucet,

:14:45. > :14:46.met him three years ago as he turned 90.

:14:47. > :14:49.You can watch her interview with Mr Peres in a special Our World

:14:50. > :14:52.programme today on BBC World News, coming up in about

:14:53. > :15:09.As young people around the world are targeted by extremist groups,

:15:10. > :15:11.counter-terrorism efforts are also now focusing on youth.

:15:12. > :15:13.This week, hundreds of young leaders are joining forces with the likes

:15:14. > :15:16.of Kofi Annan and Bob Geldoff to try and prevent more people

:15:17. > :15:20.It's happening at the One World Summit being held

:15:21. > :15:23.Bjorn Ihler is a survivor of the Anders Breivik terrorist

:15:24. > :15:25.attack which killed 77 people in Norway in 2011.

:15:26. > :15:38.Bjorn, firstly, your experience was by a lone wolf, it's not just

:15:39. > :15:41.terror groups being talked about here, is it?

:15:42. > :15:54.Could you tell us what happened to you? In 2011 and was attending the

:15:55. > :16:01.Labour youth summer camp and while I was there to meet friends and see

:16:02. > :16:07.how they were spending their summer application in the way they are

:16:08. > :16:11.supposed to be spent, a man named Anders Breivik came to attack the

:16:12. > :16:14.summer camp because he was a political opposer of the policies of

:16:15. > :16:24.integration and helping people of different backgrounds and Heidi Dem.

:16:25. > :16:29.This was a terrible experience and we heard a lot about it in the

:16:30. > :16:34.international news at the time. Do survive this, and you have tried to

:16:35. > :16:44.stop it from happening again, tell us more about what you are doing in

:16:45. > :16:51.Ottawa? I Amat the One World Summit with a union that is looking to work

:16:52. > :16:57.towards gathering young leaders from all over the planet to create a

:16:58. > :17:05.joint force against extremism everywhere. The experience of

:17:06. > :17:10.extremism, your attacker was not motivated by extremist Islam but by

:17:11. > :17:18.right-wing ideology, is there a similarity between the ways that you

:17:19. > :17:23.would tackle both of these? There is a massive similarity between all

:17:24. > :17:28.forms of extremism, all forms of extreme is as I understand that are

:17:29. > :17:32.about to nine diversity and the right of difference to exist within

:17:33. > :17:39.the community, whether that is Islamic extremism or far right

:17:40. > :17:42.extremism, it is about eliminating those who are different from those

:17:43. > :17:48.who are extreme in our society. Because of the similarities on that

:17:49. > :17:52.and similarities in how people are being recruited to these movements

:17:53. > :17:59.and how we can help people leave these movements. You went through an

:18:00. > :18:02.experience where you survived by centimetres, the bullet missed you

:18:03. > :18:06.by centimetres but you are still here today, do you think what you

:18:07. > :18:09.have been through helps you give weight to this movement, to try to

:18:10. > :18:17.stop extremism taking root in the lives of young people? I think my

:18:18. > :18:22.experience helps to give me wait but the movement is more than about just

:18:23. > :18:26.the survivors, it is about the fact that we all have a role to play in

:18:27. > :18:31.fighting extremism in our communities and one of the things

:18:32. > :18:34.that is defining about Anders Breivik is that he came from the

:18:35. > :18:39.committee not to different to the one that I came from but we were on

:18:40. > :18:43.the other end of this gun when he was firing at us. He had a

:18:44. > :18:47.background that was not so different from mine and that fact that

:18:48. > :18:52.something we should carry with us, the fact that these people are

:18:53. > :18:56.coming from our communities and our neighbourhoods and we have to start

:18:57. > :19:02.at home, we have to start with our own neighbourhoods to solve and

:19:03. > :19:05.fight extremism worldwide. Thank you Bjorn Ihler, we wish you all the

:19:06. > :19:12.best that the One World Summit in Ottawa, Canada.

:19:13. > :19:15.One of the biggest jobs in world football is up for grabs

:19:16. > :19:18.after Sam Allardyce was forced to step down as England's manager.

:19:19. > :19:21.It was only a couple of months ago he said that he was "so proud"

:19:22. > :19:23.to get the position, but after revelations

:19:24. > :19:26.in a British newspaper, Mr Allardyce is now out of a job.

:19:27. > :19:27.Undercover reporters from the Daily Telegraph claiming

:19:28. > :19:30.to be businessmen recorded him giving advice on how to get around

:19:31. > :19:34.The paper also said Allardyce - despite earning an England salary

:19:35. > :19:37.of around $4 million - cashed in on his position to agree

:19:38. > :19:38.in principle to a ?400,000 public-speaking deal.

:19:39. > :19:40.Here's what happened after the undercover reporters put

:19:41. > :20:11.Sam Allardyce has said that he regrets his comments

:20:12. > :20:14.but he also accused the Daily Telegraph of entrapment.

:20:15. > :20:18.It's not just an embarrassment for Allardyce - who spent only 67

:20:19. > :20:21.days and one game in the job - but also for the Football

:20:22. > :20:23.Association that overseas the game in England.

:20:24. > :20:25.With me now is European football writer Paolo Bandini.

:20:26. > :20:31.He writes for The Guardian newspaper.

:20:32. > :20:38.Paolo Bandini, it was Alan Shearer who said when Ms Newman -- news came

:20:39. > :20:43.out that England is now the laughing stock of world football, what do you

:20:44. > :20:49.think about that? I think that is slightly over egging it but there is

:20:50. > :20:53.certainly a degree of that going on in other foreign countries. We have

:20:54. > :20:57.a tendency to look at other nations, the likes of Italy and Spain which

:20:58. > :21:04.gets accused of cheating, we talk about the match fixing scandals that

:21:05. > :21:06.have happened there. Certainly some Italian newspapers had quite

:21:07. > :21:10.explicit eyebrow raising at the oasis of calm, the rich kids of

:21:11. > :21:16.England have these problems as well. It has been noted abroad and some

:21:17. > :21:21.people are slightly enjoying it, no doubt. Do you think that this event,

:21:22. > :21:26.the scandal would have had the same impact in the likes of Spain or

:21:27. > :21:30.Italy? You can look at Italy, for instance, the current president of

:21:31. > :21:36.the Italian football Federation was elected to his position despite in

:21:37. > :21:39.the build-up to his election making quite crass racial comments, he

:21:40. > :21:42.talked about banana heaters and for dating Italian football. Many

:21:43. > :21:48.Italians were shocked by this but he was still able to get his position.

:21:49. > :21:53.Some of those people do not have the position of a moral authority to

:21:54. > :21:58.make such a statement. -- banana heaters. The fact that the British

:21:59. > :22:02.Premier League is regarded very highly in comparison to the national

:22:03. > :22:08.side's performance, how does that economy develop? Sam Allardyce was

:22:09. > :22:12.something like the 50s best played football manager in the world. It

:22:13. > :22:16.still holds a certain attraction because of that. England is the

:22:17. > :22:23.birthplace of football, many people will look to it. It has the richest

:22:24. > :22:27.week by a good mile and the world. It has more money, twice the amount

:22:28. > :22:31.of money than you next week. There is the glamour attraction and the

:22:32. > :22:33.historical attraction to the job. But on the pitch, England national

:22:34. > :22:40.team has not lived up to the expectations. Whenever we have the

:22:41. > :22:46.election process for an England manager, there are always holds that

:22:47. > :22:50.1966 will happen again. Any chance of that happening soon? It is not

:22:51. > :22:56.because of a lack of talent, that is by foreign manager stole the show an

:22:57. > :22:59.interest in this job. But at the moment the FA seems to want to go

:23:00. > :23:03.back to having an English manager, that was why they chose Sam

:23:04. > :23:08.Allardyce. There is not a whole range of options so it is not feel

:23:09. > :23:11.like an inspiring moment to take the job and to be aiming for winning a

:23:12. > :23:17.big trophy again. Paolo Bandini, thank you very much indeed.

:23:18. > :23:20.Tasting regional delicacies is a well worn ritual of royal tours

:23:21. > :23:22.and for the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, the latest

:23:23. > :23:24.day of their Canada tour was no different.

:23:25. > :23:27.This time it was wine-tasting with a touch of historical culture,

:23:28. > :23:31.as our royal correspondent Peter Hunt reports.

:23:32. > :23:36.The Royals are learning first hand about Canada's at times

:23:37. > :23:39.difficult relationship with its indigenous population.

:23:40. > :23:42.One leader boycotted this event and has accused the Government

:23:43. > :23:50.of failing to keep its promises to his people.

:23:51. > :23:54.Popular acclaim, not politics, was on offer inside the sports

:23:55. > :23:57.hall at this University of British Columbia campus.

:23:58. > :24:00.The couple, who are passionate about sport, were treated

:24:01. > :24:10.Next stop on a tour that doesn't stop for long,

:24:11. > :24:12.a vineyard in the Okanagan Valley, where the region's food and drink

:24:13. > :24:17.Older Royals tend not to partake in public.

:24:18. > :24:26.Younger Royals have no such inhibitions.

:24:27. > :24:31.Fed, watered and headed north to Canada's Yukon Territory

:24:32. > :24:34.and a concert where the rhythm was infectious for a Duchess

:24:35. > :24:39.who wasn't stepping on her Prince's blue suede shoes.

:24:40. > :24:41.On this royal visit, William and Kate have seen some

:24:42. > :24:44.of what Canada has to offer and what it is proud

:24:45. > :24:47.of and its people are getting a chance, sometimes at close

:24:48. > :24:51.quarters, to see the future of the Canadian monarchy.

:24:52. > :24:53.They've swapped briefly their palace home for this vast and sparsely

:24:54. > :25:03.Now how many of you have been taking your wedding photos

:25:04. > :25:08.Sounds unlikely, but that's exactly what happened

:25:09. > :25:13.Their wedding day snaps were photo-bombed, by none

:25:14. > :25:24.The newlyweds Elizabeth and Ryan, were having pictures taken

:25:25. > :25:27.in Central Park when the actor, out for jog, said hello.

:25:28. > :25:38.Congratulating the couple, he even posed for pictures.

:25:39. > :25:48.posted it on Twitter. He was invited to the deception but he could not

:25:49. > :25:49.make it. Great memories. -- the reception.

:25:50. > :25:54.But for now, from me, Karin Giannone, and the rest

:25:55. > :26:06.Hello there, after some warmth today we've got gusty winds

:26:07. > :26:08.developing overnight, anywhere from North

:26:09. > :26:12.A deepening area of low pressure is approaching the North West

:26:13. > :26:16.of the UK and the strongest winds by Thursday morning are likely to be

:26:17. > :26:19.across the far North of England and into Scotland,

:26:20. > :26:23.widely 60 mph, perhaps more than that, and a lot of showers too.