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:00:12. > :00:14.I'm Laura Trevelyan live in Washington.

:00:15. > :00:23.Theresa May becomes the first overseas leader to hold face-to-face

:00:24. > :00:27.Trade was top of the agenda, as well as strengthening the special

:00:28. > :00:35.relationship between the UK and the US.

:00:36. > :00:42.A free and independent Britain is a blessing to the world and our

:00:43. > :00:46.relationship has never been stronger. I am convinced that a

:00:47. > :00:51.trade deal is in the national interest of both countries and will

:00:52. > :00:55.cement the crucial relationship that exists between us. We will bring you

:00:56. > :01:07.more from that news conference and the gut how the relationship might

:01:08. > :01:15.develop. -- how the relationship might develop.

:01:16. > :01:20.In the past hour, Theresa May has been giving a news conference

:01:21. > :01:24.alongside Donald Trump, after she became the first

:01:25. > :01:28.Mr Trump said the US was renewing what he described as its "deep bond"

:01:29. > :01:35.It came at the end of the first meeting he has had with any foreign

:01:36. > :01:40.leader. The agree to strengthen their mutual ties. Theresa May told

:01:41. > :01:44.reporters that the UK and US had reaffirmed their commitment to Nato

:01:45. > :01:51.following their meeting, which had focused on trade and security. The

:01:52. > :01:57.United States respects the sovereignty of self-determination. A

:01:58. > :02:00.free and independent Britain is a blessing to the world. Our

:02:01. > :02:07.relationship has never been stronger. Both America and Britain

:02:08. > :02:11.understand that governments must be responsive to everyday working

:02:12. > :02:19.people, that governments must represent their own citizens. Madam

:02:20. > :02:24.Prime Minister, we look forward to working closely with you as we

:02:25. > :02:29.strengthen our mutual ties and commerce, business and foreign

:02:30. > :02:36.fears. Great days lie ahead for our two peoples and our two countries.

:02:37. > :02:40.-- foreign affairs. More from that news conference but firstly our

:02:41. > :02:44.correspondent is that the White House for us. Theresa May came here

:02:45. > :02:49.needing a trade deal but she also got a very strong commitment,

:02:50. > :02:54.doesn't she? Tell us more about that. I think there are in number of

:02:55. > :02:58.things that were important for her in this press conference. One of

:02:59. > :03:05.those with the commitment and she spoke to Mr Trump and he said they

:03:06. > :03:09.were ?100 to 100% behind Nato. That is a very important signal to send

:03:10. > :03:13.to Britain and members of the European union. That is an

:03:14. > :03:18.achievement for her. She did say at the also talked about ways to reform

:03:19. > :03:22.Nato and make it more nimble with dealing with current threats, like

:03:23. > :03:27.cyber security and terrorism. I think the other thing that was

:03:28. > :03:32.important for her to get, which she did, was her statement on torture.

:03:33. > :03:38.It has played very badly over in the UK. He was axed about his support

:03:39. > :03:44.for torture. It is his belief that it could work. He said it is my

:03:45. > :03:47.belief but I am going to defer to my secretary of defence. He does not

:03:48. > :03:51.believe torture is the way to go and he will have the deciding vote on

:03:52. > :03:55.this. It was a clear statement on an issue that has been quite

:03:56. > :04:01.contentious in the UK. Also here in many quarters as well. The two

:04:02. > :04:05.leaders are having a working lunch now in the White House. Theresa May

:04:06. > :04:14.said they were going to talk about Syria and Russia. What is likely to

:04:15. > :04:21.come up there? It was interested that Russia was raised, with his

:04:22. > :04:25.ties with Putin. He said he has not met the man and he does not know

:04:26. > :04:29.whether they will have a good relationship with him. He left that

:04:30. > :04:36.open. Also more importantly for Britain, this issue of sanctions.

:04:37. > :04:39.There are reports you might be lifting sanctions and he said that

:04:40. > :04:44.as premature. It is too early to say and that is something that would

:04:45. > :04:52.have reassured Theresa May. Britain's position is that it should

:04:53. > :04:58.not be lifted. In terms of Russia and Syria, Mr Trump has talked about

:04:59. > :05:05.being willing to join Russia in fighting Islamic State in Syria and

:05:06. > :05:12.putting Basha Assad's fit on the back burner. It is possible that Mrs

:05:13. > :05:17.May may be possible to go some distance with him on that, due to

:05:18. > :05:23.comments made by her Foreign Secretary recently. Thank you very

:05:24. > :05:28.much. The first British journalist to ask a question was Laura

:05:29. > :05:39.Ginsberg. Here's what happened. Laura? Laura Ginsberg, BBC News. You

:05:40. > :05:43.have talked about where you agree. You have also said you will be frank

:05:44. > :05:47.where you disagree with the president. Can you tell us where in

:05:48. > :05:55.your talks you do disagree and do you think the president listened to

:05:56. > :06:00.what you had to say? Mr President, we will see what she says. Mr

:06:01. > :06:05.President, you have said before that torture works. You have praised

:06:06. > :06:09.Russia, you say you want to ban some Muslims coming to America, you have

:06:10. > :06:14.said they should be punishment for abortion. Many people in Britain,

:06:15. > :06:18.those sound like alarming beliefs. What do you say to our viewers at

:06:19. > :06:22.home who are worried about some of your views and worried about you

:06:23. > :06:26.becoming a leader of the free world? Your choice of the question. There

:06:27. > :06:40.goes that relationship. I have been listening to the

:06:41. > :06:45.president and that is the point of having a conversation and a

:06:46. > :06:48.dialogue. We have been discussing a number of topics and we will carry

:06:49. > :06:53.on after this press conference meeting and discussing a number of

:06:54. > :06:57.other topics. There will be times that we disagree, the point of the

:06:58. > :07:02.special relationship is that we are able to have an open and frank

:07:03. > :07:05.discussion. So that we are able to make that clear when that happens. I

:07:06. > :07:11.am clear also that there are many issues that the United Kingdom and

:07:12. > :07:15.United States stand alongside each other and many issues that we agree

:07:16. > :07:20.on. I said yesterday in my speech that we are at a moment now that we

:07:21. > :07:24.can build a stronger and special relationship, that will be in the

:07:25. > :07:33.interests of the wider world as well. We have a great general, who

:07:34. > :07:43.has just been appointed secretary of defence, General James and she has

:07:44. > :07:49.stated publicly that he does not necessarily believe in torture. Or

:07:50. > :07:56.water boarding, or however you want to define enhanced interrogation,

:07:57. > :08:01.these are worse lots of people would like to use. I do not necessarily

:08:02. > :08:07.agree, but I would tell you that he will override because I am giving

:08:08. > :08:11.him that power. He is an expert, he is highly respected. He got through

:08:12. > :08:19.the Senate very, very quickly, which in this country is not easy, I will

:08:20. > :08:23.tell you. I am to rely on him. I believe it does work, I have been

:08:24. > :08:30.open about that for a long time but I am going with our leaders and we

:08:31. > :08:36.are going to win with an without, but I do disagree. As far as Putin

:08:37. > :08:41.and Russia, I do not see good, bad or indifferent. I do not know the

:08:42. > :08:44.gentleman. I hope we have a fantastic relationship. That is

:08:45. > :08:50.possible and it is also possible that we will not. We will see what

:08:51. > :08:55.happens. I will be representing the American people very strongly and

:08:56. > :09:00.forcefully and if we have a great relationship with Russia and other

:09:01. > :09:04.countries and if we go after Isis together, which has to be stopped.

:09:05. > :09:09.That is an evil that has to be stopped. I will consider that a good

:09:10. > :09:13.thing, not a bad thing. How the relationship works out, I will be

:09:14. > :09:16.able to tell you that later. I have heard many times when I thought I

:09:17. > :09:20.was going to get along with people but I do not like them at all. I

:09:21. > :09:24.have had some were I did not think I was going to have much of a

:09:25. > :09:27.relationship and it turned out to be a great relationship. To Reza, we

:09:28. > :09:34.never know about those things, do we? -- Theresa May. I will be

:09:35. > :09:39.representing the American people very strongly. We can now get

:09:40. > :09:42.reaction to that joint news conference from our political

:09:43. > :09:47.correspondent who is in London. Chris, Theresa May had to walk a

:09:48. > :09:52.tightrope here, making sure she got that trade deal because Britain is

:09:53. > :09:56.going to leave the EU but not wanting to defer too much to Donald

:09:57. > :10:01.Trump. How did she do? It was extraordinary to watch that because

:10:02. > :10:05.you have to be partly a critical correspondent but also the body

:10:06. > :10:10.language expert and pop psychologist as well as you see the dynamic

:10:11. > :10:15.between the two leaders, both new in post. Mrs May is the first foreign

:10:16. > :10:18.leader to step into the White House since President Trump took office.

:10:19. > :10:23.You could see an element of the awkwardness. They had not met

:10:24. > :10:29.before. I was really struck early on at how the Prime Minister was

:10:30. > :10:34.willing explicitly to say that President in their private talks had

:10:35. > :10:43.given 100% backing to Nato. We have seen the scepticism that he has

:10:44. > :10:47.articulated towards Nato. He is concerned about what he sees busy on

:10:48. > :10:51.fair funding burden that Washington has two shoulder for the Atlantic

:10:52. > :10:56.alliance. We have heard lots of concern here in the UK, not just

:10:57. > :11:00.from the Conservatives, but from across the House of Commons in the

:11:01. > :11:05.last couple of days about that outlook from President Trump on

:11:06. > :11:08.Nato. It was one of the questions that was tucked into the Prime

:11:09. > :11:14.Minister's pocket just the other day. For her to say that they had

:11:15. > :11:21.that conversation in private and she has had reassuring words on Nato, I

:11:22. > :11:25.thought was very, very striking. As you say, she has two strike a tricky

:11:26. > :11:30.balancing act. She has to be able to make the case that is in the UK's

:11:31. > :11:34.interest to have a good relationship with the White House, whoever the

:11:35. > :11:37.occupant of the building has to be. At the same time, politically and

:11:38. > :11:43.personally, the clearly different characters. They are, indeed. What

:11:44. > :11:50.impression do you think President Trump made over there in Britain? It

:11:51. > :11:53.was his very first press conference with a foreign leader. What I

:11:54. > :11:59.thought was striking in that sense was that you got an element from a

:12:00. > :12:04.British's viewer perspective of President Trump, as opposed to

:12:05. > :12:08.candidate Trump. He was more softly spoken, wasn't he? Then you got

:12:09. > :12:13.flashes of the man that we saw on the campaign trail. Crucially, the

:12:14. > :12:18.approach that he has struck, that is also different to help so many other

:12:19. > :12:23.occupants of senior political roles take to operate. At the end of that

:12:24. > :12:27.exchange, when he was talking about volunteering the difference views

:12:28. > :12:31.between him and his Defence Secretary over water boarding and

:12:32. > :12:37.torture and volunteering that as Defence Secretary would have the

:12:38. > :12:45.final say over the policy. That kind of approach, to publicly volunteered

:12:46. > :12:51.differences and to save the subordinate may have the final say,

:12:52. > :12:56.is unconventional. It is something of his prize. I suspect, in terms of

:12:57. > :13:00.the overall UK reaction, the die-hard critics of Mr Trump will

:13:01. > :13:05.not have changed his mind watching the press conference. Those who love

:13:06. > :13:12.him will be reassured that his presidency would be good news the

:13:13. > :13:15.UK. Maybe some who were open minded and could be persuaded one way or

:13:16. > :13:22.the other might acknowledge that is another side to President Trump and

:13:23. > :13:28.those -- from those performances on the campaign stage. Chris Mason in

:13:29. > :13:32.London, thank you very much. Mr Trump is planning to speak to

:13:33. > :13:36.Vladimir Putin on the phone on Saturday. His relationship was

:13:37. > :13:42.brought up and here is what he had to say in that press conference. As

:13:43. > :13:47.far as Putin and Russia, I do not see good, bad or indifferent. I do

:13:48. > :13:51.not know the gentleman. I hope we have a fantastic relationship. That

:13:52. > :13:55.is possible and it is also possible that we will not. We will see what

:13:56. > :14:00.happens and I will be representing the American people very, very

:14:01. > :14:06.strongly and very forcefully and if we have a great relationship with

:14:07. > :14:10.Russia or other countries and if we go after Isis together, which has to

:14:11. > :14:13.be stopped because it's an evil that has to be stopped, I will consider

:14:14. > :14:18.that a good thing and not a bad thing. How the relationship works

:14:19. > :14:21.out, I will not be able to tell you that until later. I have had many

:14:22. > :14:26.times when I thought I would get along with people and I do not like

:14:27. > :14:29.them at all. I have had some were I did not think I was going to have

:14:30. > :14:42.much of a relationship and it turned out to be a great relationship. So

:14:43. > :14:45.Theresa May, we never know about those things, do we? I will tell you

:14:46. > :14:47.one thing, I will be representing the American people very strongly.

:14:48. > :14:50.Donald Trump. Joining me now from London is the Republican commentator

:14:51. > :14:54.and part of President Trump's transition team. Thank you for

:14:55. > :14:59.joining us. This was his diplomatic debut. How did you do? I thought he

:15:00. > :15:04.did very, very well. I was disappointed that the first question

:15:05. > :15:10.that he was asked that took everything out of context, is going

:15:11. > :15:14.back to campaign staff. Women being punished for abortion was a

:15:15. > :15:20.hypothetical question. He changed his position and very much came out

:15:21. > :15:25.of yesterday that anyone coming from an Arab nation that supports

:15:26. > :15:30.terrorism. They have accomplished more things on his to do list and

:15:31. > :15:35.every single day there has been an achievement of one of his promises.

:15:36. > :15:40.People are in shock about what he has done. Can we stick to what was

:15:41. > :15:45.said at the press conference? What did you make of Theresa May saying

:15:46. > :15:55.that the president had told her he was 100% behind Nato? Where you

:15:56. > :16:00.reassured? People take Trump literally and not seriously and

:16:01. > :16:05.combine things. I am sure he still feels that it is obsolete because

:16:06. > :16:11.Donald Rumsfeld said it was obsolete. He is most perturbed that

:16:12. > :16:15.we carry 80% of the cost and 27 nations to not pay for it. If you

:16:16. > :16:22.think that has disappeared, the fact of the matter is he selected and has

:16:23. > :16:27.now been concerned ats confirmed the general who is behind Nato. That is

:16:28. > :16:33.the other good thing is that he does not need people to agree with

:16:34. > :16:36.heading. He once the variety... He said, didn't he, in that press

:16:37. > :16:39.conference that he would be overruled by the general when it

:16:40. > :16:46.comes to torture. That he thinks that it works but he accepts the

:16:47. > :16:50.journal does not believe in it. That may be extraordinary but is that the

:16:51. > :16:54.essence of Donald Trump's are we going to do that all antique pieces

:16:55. > :17:00.out a look at the whole picture? He has been very, very comfortable with

:17:01. > :17:06.people disagreeing with him and he has created that. He has not changed

:17:07. > :17:10.his opinion. What you said is that he would never ask anyone to do

:17:11. > :17:21.anything illegal. He would defer to the general and in the Wall Street

:17:22. > :17:27.Journal and article written had said that torture had worked. He says he

:17:28. > :17:31.believes that but he is not going to force that belief on the people who

:17:32. > :17:35.are experts. That is one of the key things about him. Let's turn to

:17:36. > :17:41.Russia, we know that President Trump is going to speak to Vladimir Putin,

:17:42. > :17:44.someone who he said that if he could have a good relationship with him,

:17:45. > :17:49.that would be great. Do you think it is too early to be talking about

:17:50. > :17:54.lifting sanctions on Russia over their behaviour in Ukraine? I do not

:17:55. > :17:59.know if that is the question of is it too early, what the question is

:18:00. > :18:03.is what would be the reason? What is the thinking behind it? Is it a

:18:04. > :18:07.carrot? What is really going on because I will tell you, Donald

:18:08. > :18:11.Trump does not do anything without having thought it through

:18:12. > :18:17.strategically and even anticipating what potential reaction could be. It

:18:18. > :18:21.was interesting to that Theresa May talked about the question of Russia.

:18:22. > :18:27.She talked about the agreement to which Russia must live up to if

:18:28. > :18:31.those sanctions are imposed. Donald Trump did not seem so familiar with

:18:32. > :18:37.the diplomatic language as Theresa May. Is that something that is going

:18:38. > :18:41.to come in time? I think that for someone who is 18 months ago, two

:18:42. > :18:49.years ago, was not a politician at all has turned our entire political

:18:50. > :18:57.system upside down, who took 3084 counties. Hillary only 157. -- 384.

:18:58. > :19:01.Give him a chance. He is a fast learner and he has been impresseds

:19:02. > :19:08.impressive at what he has mastered in such a short time. -- impressive.

:19:09. > :19:14.Thank you for that perspective on President Trump following his first

:19:15. > :19:18.meeting with a foreign leader. Let's hear more from that press

:19:19. > :19:24.conference. One of the key items was trade and the economy. Trade between

:19:25. > :19:32.our two countries is already worth over ?150 billion per year. Together

:19:33. > :19:36.we have around $1 trillion invested in each other's economies. The

:19:37. > :19:41.defence relationship is the broadest, deepest and most advanced

:19:42. > :19:44.of any two countries sharing military hardware and expertise. I

:19:45. > :19:48.think the president and I are ambitious to build on this

:19:49. > :19:52.relationship in order to grow our economies and provide the high

:19:53. > :19:56.skilled, high-paid jobs of the future for working people across

:19:57. > :20:02.America and across the UK. Theresa May there. Joining me is that Bishop

:20:03. > :20:09.from the London Chambers of commerce. I am not an economist but

:20:10. > :20:14.I understand tariffs currently between Britain and the US are

:20:15. > :20:21.minimal. If there was a trade deal, how much would trade be boosted? You

:20:22. > :20:28.are right. The rules apply and there is an extra layer on top from

:20:29. > :20:35.most-favoured-nation. The tariffs are not generally a barrier to trade

:20:36. > :20:40.and as you just heard, the trade between the US and the UK is

:20:41. > :20:46.enormous. They are our biggest individual country export market and

:20:47. > :20:52.we are in the top five of their export markets. Investment is

:20:53. > :20:59.enormous, too. We are starting from a good place. The trade agreement

:21:00. > :21:03.usually comes into play because barriers to trade are high and if

:21:04. > :21:07.you reduce those barriers, trade will grow. There has got to be some

:21:08. > :21:15.thought put into what the trade negotiations will entail. Peter,

:21:16. > :21:20.would this not mean if there was a trade agreement that those

:21:21. > :21:23.politically sensitive areas, which are Government protected, like

:21:24. > :21:30.defence and health spending, that Britain would have to open up to the

:21:31. > :21:35.Americans. Like open up the NHS? We have to pick on areas, like Donald

:21:36. > :21:41.Trump has said he is putting America first. He has got to find something

:21:42. > :21:45.in it from the USA, the getting a preferential access to us. We have

:21:46. > :21:54.65 million people, it is never going to be an equal deal. It has to work

:21:55. > :21:58.for them, too. Do you think then this is much more about the

:21:59. > :22:01.symbolism of the special relationship between Britain and

:22:02. > :22:06.America at a time where both political leaders want to show they

:22:07. > :22:13.can go it alone? I think that is an important part of it. By some levels

:22:14. > :22:19.of measurement, the USA and the UK are in the top five of the easiest

:22:20. > :22:23.places to do business in the world. Doing business with each other is,

:22:24. > :22:29.at the starting point, easy. That is not to say that free trade

:22:30. > :22:33.agreements can achieve more. Those tariffs are low but not known every

:22:34. > :22:40.sector, they can be lowered on both sides. You can take away export

:22:41. > :22:46.licensing, you can take away other licensing regimes. And have the

:22:47. > :22:49.mutual recognition of standards. All the nontariff barriers things can go

:22:50. > :22:54.down. I do not want to give the overall impression that the free

:22:55. > :22:59.trade agreement is a bad thing, but is not the massive boost to trade

:23:00. > :23:04.that it could be with countries where it is harder to do business.

:23:05. > :23:10.Thank you so much over there in London. Donald Trump said he had a

:23:11. > :23:15.friendly call with mixes president -- with the Mexican president. We

:23:16. > :23:22.had a talk that lasted for an hour this morning and we are going to be

:23:23. > :23:27.working on a theatre relationship and a new relationship. The United

:23:28. > :23:31.States cannot continue to lose vast amount of business, companies and

:23:32. > :23:34.millions and millions of people losing their jobs. That will not

:23:35. > :23:41.happen with me. We are no longer going to be the country that does

:23:42. > :23:45.not know what it is doing. We are going to renegotiate our trade deals

:23:46. > :23:50.and we are going to renegotiate other aspects of our relationship

:23:51. > :23:55.with Mexico. In the end, I think it will be good for both countries.

:23:56. > :23:59.Donald Trump talking about Mexico earlier in that press conference.

:24:00. > :24:05.Joining me now is the BBC's correspondent. You just heard what

:24:06. > :24:09.Donald Trump said there but earlier today he had a long phone

:24:10. > :24:12.conversation with the Mexican president after that bust up

:24:13. > :24:16.yesterday and now the Mexican president is not coming here. What

:24:17. > :24:21.did you make of his public comments following the bust up yesterday and

:24:22. > :24:24.the phone call with the Mexican president this morning? During that

:24:25. > :24:28.press conference, Donald Trump said he was not as brash as you might

:24:29. > :24:32.think that if you use some of the language he used to describe the

:24:33. > :24:38.Mexican president. He said he loves the Mexican people but they have

:24:39. > :24:42.beaten us to a pulp. You saw a bit of the characteristic Donald Trump

:24:43. > :24:47.that we are used to, rather than the more statement like President Trump

:24:48. > :24:52.that we saw alongside Theresa May. He is continuing that fight, shall

:24:53. > :24:55.we say, but he did have a phone conversation with the Mexican

:24:56. > :24:59.president earlier today and one of the upshot is from that conversation

:25:00. > :25:04.from the Mexican side, we have heard that both have agreed not to discuss

:25:05. > :25:09.publicly how they will pay for the wall. He did not mention the war,

:25:10. > :25:14.did he? Maybe he is coming steeped in the art of diplomacy. Maybe he

:25:15. > :25:18.has kept as part of the bargain but he said that the US cannot continue

:25:19. > :25:22.to lose vast amounts of business to Mexico. He is not giving up some of

:25:23. > :25:26.that fight he has picked with Mexico, which we saw throughout the

:25:27. > :25:29.campaign and has led to the meeting being cancelled next week. What you

:25:30. > :25:43.make of the overall tone of what did you think of the

:25:44. > :25:46.body language between Theresa May and Donald Trump? I think it felt at

:25:47. > :25:49.times that she was in charge. I felt like Donald Trump was dragged be

:25:50. > :25:51.more statement like. Except for of course the moments with Mexico. One

:25:52. > :25:55.of the most telling moments was when one of our little editors asked a

:25:56. > :26:00.tough question. What I have been saying on social media is that

:26:01. > :26:01.British journalists are ASCII and tougher questions than we have seen

:26:02. > :26:10.in the US. -- are asking tougher questions. You are watching BBC News

:26:11. > :26:19.life here in Washington, DC. I think I am ready for something

:26:20. > :26:23.milder.