Frankie Boyle's Referendum Autopsy


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Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the stage Mr Frankie Boyle!

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APPLAUSE AND CHEERING

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Hello and welcome to the Referendum Autopsy.

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After months of campaigning and conflict,

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we finally know the answer to whether Scotland wants to be

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a free and independent country

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and that answer is no.

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Now, a polarising referendum is a tricky thing to cover,

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but at least the BBC are proving they're open to full and frank

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debate by showing this programme after the election

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on iPlayer only.

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LAUGHTER

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Not that the BBC is incapable of presenting Scotland accurately.

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Doctor Who is Scottish and it's difficult to think of a more

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archetypal Scottish character - an old man armed with a screwdriver,

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dragging young women into a phone box.

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"They call me The Doctor!

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"I'm taking you back to the 1970s."

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I think that what Scotland needs to do now

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is put England on the back foot,

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do something that the English won't expect

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and the last thing they expect is for us to become an Islamic caliphate.

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IS - Independent Scotland.

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Of course, we need to learn how to treat women slightly better,

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but we can change.

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If you feel offended by anything in the show, feel free to

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tweet your outrage on a mobile phone made by a 10-year-old in China.

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David Cameron kicked things off

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by saying Scotland's "silent majority" must step forward.

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I've never met a silent Scottish person in my life.

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In fact, the only time I've ever seen a Scottish guy go silent is

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when he's just been told the price of a pint by a London barman.

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I think if we'd currency,

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it should have been called "legal tender, you prick".

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Quite a few bizarre celebrities got involved -

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June Sarpong spoke up for the No campaign,

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because I often ask myself what would June Sarpong do...

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..in any political quandary?

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June Sarpong is the name that people at Google type in

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to check if it's working.

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On the day of the vote, Andy Murray came out in favour of Yes.

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Andy Murray is worth £100 million.

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If I was worth £100 million,

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I would never play tennis again.

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I'd turn up to my next match dressed as a pirate,

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roll my cock out on the baseline

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and make Hawkeye take a picture.

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At least Scotland can now get back to doing what it does best -

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if only we could work out what that is.

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All we know is, it's not football or parenting.

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Say what you like about Alex Salmond,

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he showed us all what an independent future might look like.

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And also, what a frog's come face might look like.

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Now, you're probably wondering what the show will be like.

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Well, I'll be speaking about the referendum

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with some guests for some of it,

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then I'll say some things that I believe in,

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people will come on to disagree, we'll kick it around a bit

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and eventually, the audience will vote on whether I'm right or wrong.

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Before you know it, the show will be over. Ten years will go by.

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You'll get married, have kids. The kids will grow up and leave.

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You'll be happy. But will any of it be real?

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How do you know that any of it is really happening?

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One night, you'll plunge your hand into a fire,

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just so you can feel something and draw back a black and burning stump.

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As you die, screaming on your own kitchen floor,

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you'll look into the eyes of God,

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who will scream obscenities at you in Arabic.

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God will crumple you up and throw you into an eternal,

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fiery hell as you or I would throw

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a wanked-on sock into a neighbour's garden.

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But that's all for later! For now, let's get on with the show!

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Now, because many people consider me a cunt,

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the BBC...

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APPLAUSE

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Don't clap!

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WHOOPING

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The BBC have decided that I can't be trusted on my own

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and have insisted that I'm joined by a couple of guests

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to make sure I don't go too far.

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Arguing against me tonight,

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please welcome Sara Pascoe and Katherine Ryan.

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Hello.

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Hi.

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Welcome, thanks for coming. Have you been following the referendum?

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Yes.

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- Enjoy it? - It was entertaining.

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I know it wasn't just for entertainment purposes...

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It was quite serious.

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I suppose if it's not your life being ruined...

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LAUGHTER

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..there were quite a few laughs to be had!

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I would have been really sad if Scotland had gone, but if I was

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Scottish, that wouldn't necessarily have been the way I'd have voted.

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But would you have been quite sad sort of in the way that if people

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had told you they weren't making Starburst any more?

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Are they not making Starburst any more?

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No, they're still making Starburst.

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You brought me here to tell me that?

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What a weird way to break it to you.

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What happened in the Quebec referendum?

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A similar thing, wasn't it?

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It looked like the Yes campaign took a lead

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and then it all just fizzled out.

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Well, Canadians went about it in a very different way.

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The Yes vote was far ahead and we had a PM at the time,

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Jean Chretien. Nobody liked him,

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he was as unpopular in Quebec as David Cameron is in Glasgow.

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We didn't send politicians to Quebec.

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We lowered air fares - well, it wasn't me -

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someone lowered air fares

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and Canadians themselves did this pilgrimage

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right before the referendum and the people really said,

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"We appreciate your Francophone culture and we want you to stay."

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It was more of a...

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thing of the people. They did stay.

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Has anyone ever made a film of that?

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Cos if they cast that with dogs, it would be amazing.

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You know, like sometimes they have those adventure films?

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- Yeah. - Where dogs travel over mountains?

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It would be like that, but with also politics.

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I think most films would be better with dogs.

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- Yes. I agree. - Anyway. Er...

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We asked you, in a sort of spirit of show and tell,

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to bring in your favourite moment from the referendum.

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- What did you choose, Sara? - I picked an amazing YouTube clip...

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I would title it "the most persistent heckler in the world".

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This is about five days before the vote.

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It's all the Labour MPs arriving in Glasgow with their luggage.

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- Can we watch it? - Yes.

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Yep.

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Our imperial masters have arrived!

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Welcome, our imperial masters!

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Welcome to Scotland!

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This is your imperial masters.

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The Labour Party have come so you can bow down before them.

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SINGS EMPIRE STRIKES BACK THEME TUNE

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Bow down, everybody!

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LAUGHTER

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What I love about it...

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I keep watching it, it's had about 500,000 views, most of them me,

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but what I really love is the idea that he probably does this

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every day, just around the street,

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and he just turned a corner and the timing was perfect and suddenly...

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he stopped being a lunatic and became this amazing satirist!

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Normally, he's just following his ex-girlfriend

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and creating some real social problems.

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I don't think he's ever had a girlfriend.

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That would have been a nightmare train to be on, that Labour train.

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That would have been the busiest first-class to Scotland ever.

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Normally, it's just me and Duncan Bannatyne.

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Katherine, did you bring anything in?

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Yes. I really enjoyed Alex Salmond

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and there were some interesting press shots taken of this gentleman

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throughout the campaign. I think we should take a look at some of them.

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OK.

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I'm not sure what tree that is - I THINK it's a yew tree...

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He's quite unselfconscious.

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David Cameron wouldn't give you a bite of his Solero.

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Well, if he did, he wouldn't have his jacket just slung

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over his shoulder in a jaunty pose.

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I don't think anyone would.

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Next, here is Alex Salmond embracing.

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You know, he's a man of the ladies.

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It's a firm grasp he's got on her, as well.

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She might fertilise his fish eggs.

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Don't worry, I'd say that

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if David Cameron looks like the kind of man who'd strangle women,

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Alex Salmond looks like the guy he'd hire to bury them after.

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Next one?

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LAUGHTER

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That's made my cock retreat so far into my body,

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I need to tie a string around it and pull it out like a wobbly tooth.

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Now, it's not just Katherine

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and Sara I have to argue with tonight - I have an entire room

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full of people to bitterly disagree with - my studio audience.

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APPLAUSE

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Tonight, they have all the power, as at the end of each debate,

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they'll be deciding whether I'm right or wrong in a formatting decision

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I may well end up regretting. On with the show.

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Tonight, I'll be making three propositions.

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First up - the No campaign relied heavily on the use of fear

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to convince people to vote No, which brings me to this proposition.

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The mainstream media are a bunch of lying bastards.

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APPLAUSE

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The scare stories seem to have worked.

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The No campaign managed to make people afraid of uncertainty,

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an incredible achievement in Scotland

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when you're dealing with people who wake up every second Saturday

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uncertain of where they are and their HIV status.

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But the basic proposition here is this -

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the press and the big TV channels threw everything at this,

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abandoned any pretence of impartiality and it worked.

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Much of the campaign focused on negativity and fear.

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Do you think I'm being unfair to the media?

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I think lying is a very strong word in terms of the media.

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I think sometimes we can be a bit adolescent

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in our approach to things, guys.

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The media itself, by calling it one thing, it's like saying, "the man".

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Trying to fight something that's cohesive - well, it's not.

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It's lots of individuals who have different agendas.

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I don't think there are people who sit down and intentionally...

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I think people try to entertain and sell papers,

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but I don't think they intentionally go, "I'm going to mislead people."

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If you asked journalists, they would say it'd be unethical

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if we didn't warn people of the effects of what could happen.

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They don't want to make it easy for you. The media.

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It's like a puzzle - they'll give you little clues

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and you've got to do some of the work.

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Like when they say, "Emma Watson - hot ass, nude photos", what they're

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really saying is, "Oh, she's giving a UN speech about gender equality."

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Then they say, "Oh, girl goes missing!"

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What they're really saying is, "White girl goes missing."

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Yeah. Well, some people saw the media's true priorities

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when channels like Sky News, that had led with a story about someone

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getting hit with an egg, laughed off a near riot in George Square.

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Mark White is in George Square in Glasgow

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where a pro-union crowd has gathered

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and let's say there's been a little ballot box leftovers going on there,

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which the police are having to handle. Tell us more, Mark.

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Yes, for the most part, it's been fairly good humoured.

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It's certainly been boisterous and there's been a lot of singing

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- and chanting... - Fuck her in the pussy!

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And as you can hear...

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there are still one or two people in fine voice...

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Well, there you go. Anyway...

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There you go. That's his...

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His face said, occasionally,

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people will scream "fuck her in the pussy" in your ear.

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That guy didn't even get off his phone. "No, not you, Dad. Not you."

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Of course, a big factor in the campaign

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was the use of social media.

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The Yes campaign dominated Twitter, but the problem is there's

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so much noise on there, it's hard to take anything constructive out of it.

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No matter what you say about the referendum, you'll get abuse.

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You couldn't say anything.

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That's how you can tell how sensitive and important an issue it is,

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by how many times someone calls you a fat lesbian whore.

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Yeah, I got a few of those.

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It shows you how mainstream these people are, as well,

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because JK Rowling was a massive voice.

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"Oh, JK Rowling thinks this."

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It's almost as if being a billionaire

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and feeling that the status quo is pretty good go hand-in-hand.

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"I see you're all eating from food banks - well, personally

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"I'm sitting on top of a mountain of children's pocket money...

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"..like a dragon in a fucking fairy story...

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"..and everything looks fine from up here.

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"Maybe you could teach your children to quack in the street

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"on the off-chance that blind people will throw them bread?"

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The press in particular embraced the use of fear

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to scare Scots into voting No. During the campaign,

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the papers featured some fairly sensational headlines.

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Let's have a look.

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Banks will leave Scotland if the independence vote is Yes.

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This is the Royal Bank of Scotland who were bailed out to the tune of

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billions of pounds and still chain disposable pens to the fucking desk.

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They aren't even really a bank,

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because a bank is something that keeps money. They're not a bank!

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My kid got a tenner from his granny at Christmas. He's still got it.

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He's a better bank than the Royal Bank of Scotland.

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Statistically, my couch is a better bank.

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Scottish face losing multimillion pound artworks...

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Send those back to England.

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"Did this Turner originally have a giant Tipp-Ex cock on it?"

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"Yes."

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LAUGHTER

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And why independence could put Scotland

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in danger of Russian invasion.

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From Business Insider!

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Not even a totally mad newspaper, but a proper magazine!

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It does make you worry they do know something!

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I wonder what the game of Risk must be like in Russia?

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"Yes, get Scotland, that's vital.

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"Once you get Scotland, then you can get Greenland,

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"then you control the world's ice supply.

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"You control the penguins, you control everything!"

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It's so obvious these headlines are made up and created to scare us -

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why do we let newspapers get away with it?

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To discuss that, please welcome the former editor of The Scotsman

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and current professor of journalism

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at the University of Kent, Tim Luckhurst.

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Thanks for coming on, Tim.

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Do you think there were scare stories, or...bias?

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Newspapers are supposed to be biased, Frankie, that's what they're for.

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Newspapers express opinions.

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If you want straight facts, you get them from broadcasters.

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In this country, we have a simple separation between newspapers,

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which are partisan, angry, political and they support a political stance.

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They have readers who know they support that stance.

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Then we have broadcasters,

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that are there to tell a straight, objective, impartial story.

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I think the referendum reflected that perfectly.

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The newspapers were angry and they were biased

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and they were polemical and the broadcasters told the truth.

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- We're very lucky, we get both. - OK.

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Well, we had in Scotland 45% of people voting Yes and they had

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one paper that represented them, which was the Sunday Herald,

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which isn't even owned by a Scottish company.

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So the majority of the Scottish media didn't represent

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45% of the population, would be an obvious point.

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Actually, your argument is wrong.

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Yes, the Sunday Herald was pro independence,

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but the Guardian, which is widely influential

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and more read by broadcasters,

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more likely to set the news agenda in Scotland than any other paper,

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sadly even more than The Scotsman, that I used to edit.

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The simple truth is that the Guardian advanced the argument

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that independence was the progressive solution for Scotland.

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What I'd say to you, Tim, if you're saying I'm wrong,

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is that the Guardian isn't a Scottish paper and it said to vote No.

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That seems a strange argument to make!

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Its final leader said to vote No, but its correspondents

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and columnists made a very passionate argument.

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It allowed some columnists to say yes.

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It didn't allow them, it encouraged them to.

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The media isn't all one thing, admittedly.

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It's not all one thing and they all have slightly different agendas,

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but overall, it's a very similar agenda.

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There's another point here, and it's crucially important.

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Throughout this campaign in which you're complaining that biased

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newspapers persuaded Scots not to vote for independence, actually,

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support for independence grew and I think that's for a crucial reason.

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It's because newspapers don't create public opinion, they follow it.

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These newspapers in Scotland supported No

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because they thought the majority of the population supported No.

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If you want to see examples...

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Tim, 45% of them didn't support No and weren't reflected in any way.

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They got the Sunday Herald, that was all they got.

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They got a lot of online campaigning...

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We know there's online, people can be different.

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The reason online campaigning is different is

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because it's not owned by different...

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Rupert Murdoch, Trinity Mirror, it's owned by the people

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themselves on Twitter sites and Facebook sites or whatever.

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It's a question of plurality, isn't it?

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Well, we have plurality of the media in this country.

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We have laws which require there to be plurality of mainstream

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newspaper ownership and broadcast ownership. I repeat...

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They're not very good laws, because Rupert Murdoch owns half of it.

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- He doesn't own half of it! - He owns far too much of it.

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It's an absolute nonsense to suggest that they are all

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owned by a few big, expensive external foreign owners.

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You're trying to suggest I'm giving some kind of outrageous,

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left-field opinion. You know it's a perfectly mainstream opinion.

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And you should know headlines are like punch lines.

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They're meant to entertain.

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I've got one more headline from the campaign we showed to you.

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Can we just have a wee look at it

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and ask ourselves how they reached this shocking conclusion?

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I was going to say not from a crazy newspaper,

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but it is from the Scottish Daily Mail.

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Do you want me to explain it to you?

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I know what the headline is.

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The headline is actually about cyber-attacks on Scotland,

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which are as unlikely as alien invasion, I would have argued.

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No, cyber-attacks on the security infrastructure of the United Kingdom

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happen all the time, many of them

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run by the People's Republic of China.

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FRANKIE LAUGHS

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Yeah, I can see why China would want

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to take down an independent Scotland's computer network.

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- No, that wasn't the point... - "What's the password?"

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"Englisharecunts1". "There we go! Got it!"

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APPLAUSE

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You'd be a great headline writer.

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You'd be a brilliant headline writer.

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HE LAUGHS

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Because you understand the point.

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The headline's to make you read the rest of the story.

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As an expert in brilliant sensation, you ought to understand

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the value of a decent headline, and I'm not going to explain

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the value of a headline to a man who writes such great punch lines,

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I'm really not.

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Tim... OK, you're on shaky ground there.

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LAUGHTER

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Tim, thanks for joining us and giving us the journalist's point of view.

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- Thank you, Tim. - Pleasure.

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APPLAUSE

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I'm in no way convinced that the papers are to be trusted,

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but it's down to my studio audience to see if they agree with me or not.

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I don't want to influence the vote, but the death rate

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among studio audiences who disagree with me is surprisingly high.

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If you agree with me that the mainstream press

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can't be trusted, it's green.

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If you think you can believe them, it's red. Please vote now.

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It is quite clearly about as green as could be. So there we have it.

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Our audience realise I'm right

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and the mainstream media are lying bastards.

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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Now, one of the most remarkable aspects of the Scottish referendum

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was the way that young people engaged with the debate about their future,

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and the fact that for the first time, the voting age was lowered to 16.

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Well, my next proposition is this:

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As soon as you can make a mark with a crayon,

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you know as much as the average voter,

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so the voting age should be lowered to two.

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And a lot of people think that that's a ridiculous suggestion,

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because a lot of Scottish two-year-olds are too drunk to vote.

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But...

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By the time you've reached my age in life, you're honestly spent,

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your life force is spent.

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I am 42 and I now ejaculate

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with all the force of Mary Berry's icing piper.

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LAUGHTER

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Let young people have a go at it. It'll work out. What do you think?

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I think you're being very silly.

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HE LAUGHS

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- You talk to me like a two-year-old! - Yes. Because this is the thing.

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So, you know in terms of the development of consciousness?

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So they say the difference between an animal, a mammal,

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and a human baby is that if an 18-month-old baby is in a room

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and you roll a ball in, they look to where the ball is going.

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This is what pets do, cats and dogs.

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But at about two years old, the baby starts to look for

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where the ball came from. So why aren't we letting cats vote?

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LAUGHTER

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I think... I think that's not the worst idea, right?

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They've got a very different agenda.

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Statistically, cats are going to break into 50-50.

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Right? Also, two-year-olds will probably be 50-50.

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Then when kids are sort of seven to 12,

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they'll do what their parents tell them.

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When kids are 12 to 18, they'll do the opposite

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of what their parents tell them, and that will break down 50-50.

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Statistically, we might as well have everything vote -

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hawks...

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deer...

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But if it's all 50-50, then why have a vote?

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Why not?

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Just get rid of elections. Have a dictator.

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Can you think how much fun it would be making a hawk vote?

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We've got two million unemployed in Britain, and how many hawks?

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You want them to eat the unemployed?

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No, no, no!

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What if...

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The unemployed will work on hawk voting systems.

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Oh, OK. LAUGHTER

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If we were to lower the voting age to two, it would mean

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politicians would have to bond with voters at an even younger age,

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which means we could end up with more terrible moments like this,

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from Michael Gove.

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You've recently said that you quite like rap music.

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So I was wondering, could you give us a taster of your favourite rap?

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Oh...

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Well I've got so many, but the first rap I probably heard

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when I was younger was actually quite a vanilla rap, which was

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the Wham Rap, you know, with Andrew Ridgeley and George Michael?

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(RAPS) Hey, everybody, take a look at me

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I've got street credibility

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I may not have a job, but I have a good time

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with the boys I meet down on the line.

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Erm...

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:23:020:23:05

THEY GROAN

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I think the weird thing there is that he'll have asked her to ask him that.

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That will be set up.

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It's like the sort of thing I'd do to my mum as a kid.

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"Ask me to do a rap!" "No." "Ask me to do a rap!"

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And then I'd have done the Wham Rap,

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completely unaware of its homosexual subtext.

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LAUGHTER

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Can politicians ever be cool, or ever just not quite painful?

0:23:240:23:28

I think Tony Benn was really cool.

0:23:280:23:30

- He was cool, wasn't he? - Yeah.

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We had a politician in Toronto on a different level of cool,

0:23:320:23:34

that smoked crack.

0:23:340:23:36

LAUGHTER

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- Similar, but different. - Oh, those guys smoke crack.

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Do you know, smoking crack is one of the least offensive things

0:23:400:23:44

Rob Ford has ever done.

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Hates gays, hates women, hates immigrants.

0:23:460:23:49

A general asshole.

0:23:490:23:50

Does he chill out when he's high, though?

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No, it hypes him up! And he goes out on drug runs. But he's so large.

0:23:530:23:56

How can you be that fat on crack? He's terrible at doing crack.

0:23:560:24:00

LAUGHTER

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I think a two-year-old is definitely as capable of critical thought

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as this group of eloquent Rangers fans.

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Can I ask you, sir?

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# You can stick your independence up your arse

0:24:100:24:13

# You can stick your independence up your arse

0:24:130:24:17

# You can stick your independence

0:24:170:24:19

# Stick your independence

0:24:190:24:21

# Stick your independence up your arse. #

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Rule Britannia, ya fucking bastards!

0:24:240:24:27

Rule fucking Britannia!

0:24:270:24:29

- We rule the fucking waves! - Calm down.

0:24:290:24:32

- Hey... - # We are the people... #

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It'll happen anyway.

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# We are the people... #

0:24:360:24:38

That version of Rule Britannia is why

0:24:400:24:42

Last Night of the Proms never comes from Scotland.

0:24:420:24:44

LAUGHTER

0:24:440:24:46

"And now, with a performance of Rule Britannia, Ya Fucking Bastards..."

0:24:460:24:51

LAUGHTER

0:24:510:24:52

There was a lot of support for No, actually,

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on both sides of the Old Firm divide,

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because the SNP brought in an anti-sectarian law,

0:24:570:24:59

so there's people going, "They took away our right to mutual hatred!"

0:24:590:25:03

"Stand with me, brother!"

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They actually bonded over that.

0:25:070:25:09

Now, we're here discussing

0:25:110:25:12

whether kids should be allowed to vote or not,

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so why don't we meet one?

0:25:140:25:15

Please welcome an eight-year-old and wee guy, Leon.

0:25:150:25:19

APPLAUSE

0:25:190:25:20

Take them off, now, Leon.

0:25:320:25:34

- How are you doing, man? - Fine.

0:25:340:25:35

You're eight? You're an eight-year-old Scottish boy.

0:25:350:25:39

What did you think of the referendum?

0:25:390:25:41

What would you say happened last week, in your own words?

0:25:410:25:44

Well...

0:25:440:25:45

There was a lot of fighting.

0:25:470:25:49

Did you get involved in any of it?

0:25:510:25:52

- Nah. -It's no good, is it?

0:25:520:25:55

So, the Yes vote lost. People decided to stay part of Britain.

0:25:550:25:58

Were you happy about that?

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No? Awww!

0:26:000:26:02

- That's heartbreaking. - This is the saddest I've been.

0:26:020:26:05

Were you always Yes, or did you start at No, or...?

0:26:050:26:08

Well, I started No, and then I changed to Yes.

0:26:080:26:13

Cool. What made you change your mind?

0:26:130:26:14

Well, when I heard you were Yes.

0:26:140:26:18

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:26:180:26:21

Did you find the referendum more or less boring than school?

0:26:230:26:27

Less boring than school.

0:26:270:26:28

It's less boring than school, isn't it? Everything is.

0:26:280:26:31

Do you get punished at school? Are you a bad kid or a good kid?

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Bad.

0:26:330:26:34

LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:26:340:26:38

That's why you cared about my opinion! Do you know what I mean?

0:26:380:26:41

You have this thing as a dad, right, because I've got kids,

0:26:410:26:43

where you're supposed to stay positive with your kids

0:26:430:26:46

when you tell them off, don't be too negative, you know,

0:26:460:26:48

try and keep it light. But sometimes, I'm just standing there thinking,

0:26:480:26:51

"I don't see anything positive about this.

0:26:510:26:54

"You have done a poo on my carpet...

0:26:540:26:56

"..and I am struggling to find an upside."

0:26:580:27:02

Do you know how I punish my son?

0:27:020:27:03

I tuck his bedclothes in really tight and hope that he has a nightmare

0:27:030:27:07

where he's trapped in a giant's pocket.

0:27:070:27:09

Why do your parents do if you're bad, then?

0:27:110:27:14

Eh...

0:27:140:27:15

Pull my ear.

0:27:150:27:16

Pull your ear?!

0:27:160:27:18

What?!

0:27:180:27:19

Stay here, Leon, you're going home with me!

0:27:190:27:22

What are you into, what kind of stuff do you like?

0:27:240:27:27

- Football. - Football? Who do you support?

0:27:270:27:28

- Arsenal. - Arsenal?!

0:27:280:27:31

LAUGHTER

0:27:310:27:34

That's just how we've been colonised!

0:27:340:27:36

Do you have a Scottish team, a wee team?

0:27:360:27:38

- Celtic. - Celtic(!)

0:27:380:27:40

Celtic's his wee team.

0:27:410:27:43

You've effectively managed to insult everybody in Glasgow.

0:27:430:27:46

LAUGHTER

0:27:460:27:48

And what do you think the future holds for us?

0:27:480:27:50

Do you think it'll be good, do you think it'll be bad...?

0:27:500:27:52

Hmmm...

0:27:520:27:54

In the middle, probably.

0:27:540:27:55

Yeah, it probably will be in the middle.

0:27:560:27:59

What's your favourite thing about being Scottish?

0:27:590:28:01

Em...

0:28:010:28:02

- Shortbread. - Shortbread?

0:28:030:28:06

Ladies and gentlemen, please thank Leon.

0:28:100:28:13

Cheers.

0:28:130:28:14

CHEERING

0:28:160:28:18

Audience, you've heard the arguments.

0:28:210:28:23

It's time for you to decide if I'm right or wrong.

0:28:230:28:25

It's green for yes, and red for no.

0:28:250:28:27

Should a two-year-old be given the right to vote?

0:28:270:28:30

So that is a no. A very firm no.

0:28:330:28:36

By a bunch of childless bastards!

0:28:360:28:39

Now, it's time to talk to the audience.

0:28:410:28:43

I hate talking to people that I don't know

0:28:430:28:46

almost as much as I hate talking to people that I do know.

0:28:460:28:49

To me, there's no such thing as a stranger,

0:28:490:28:51

just a prick I haven't met yet.

0:28:510:28:53

Before the show, we asked everyone in our audience to fill out

0:28:530:28:56

a questionnaire to learn more about their opinions on the referendum,

0:28:560:29:00

Scotland, what makes them tick, all that stuff.

0:29:000:29:02

Where's Marie Hamill?

0:29:020:29:04

- How are you doing, Marie? - I'm OK, how are you?

0:29:040:29:06

I'm very good, actually.

0:29:060:29:08

But I'm kind of busy working here.

0:29:080:29:10

All right, I'll...

0:29:100:29:11

We asked you which celebrity would make the best Prime Minister,

0:29:110:29:15

and you said Stephen Fry.

0:29:150:29:17

Yeah, I know it's a bit cliche,

0:29:170:29:19

but he just seems really well informed, and quite balanced as well.

0:29:190:29:23

Plus, he'd do a lot for the gay community.

0:29:230:29:25

He doesn't seem well balanced. He's bipolar.

0:29:250:29:27

LAUGHTER

0:29:270:29:29

When he's on his meds.

0:29:290:29:30

APPLAUSE

0:29:300:29:31

But that's...

0:29:320:29:34

You would have a depressed Prime Minister

0:29:340:29:36

on a ferry to Belgium with the nuclear codes.

0:29:360:29:38

You said the worst thing about being Scottish

0:29:410:29:43

was that we're overly hospitable.

0:29:430:29:45

Fuck off.

0:29:450:29:46

A pleasure to meet you. Where is Gordon Houston?

0:29:490:29:52

Gordon, how are you doing, mate?

0:29:530:29:55

- Hello. - You all right?

0:29:550:29:56

We asked you which celebrity

0:29:560:29:58

would you like to be stranded on a desert island with.

0:29:580:30:01

- You did. - I did?

0:30:010:30:03

- You did ask me that. - Yes, OK.

0:30:030:30:05

Have you heard of rhetorical questions, Gordon?

0:30:070:30:11

Don't answer that!

0:30:110:30:12

You said you'd like to be stranded on a desert island with the Dalai Lama.

0:30:130:30:18

He is the last person I would want to fuck, but you...

0:30:180:30:22

What were you thinking there?

0:30:220:30:23

Did you think that if you killed him often enough

0:30:230:30:25

he might come back as a roast dinner, or...?

0:30:250:30:27

I think it was more a Tantric thing,

0:30:270:30:28

- maybe, going on. - FRANKIE: Tantric?

0:30:280:30:30

SARA: Yeah, I heard he can last!

0:30:300:30:32

FRANKIE LAUGHS

0:30:320:30:33

What, are you genuinely gay for the Dalai Lama?

0:30:330:30:36

Well, you get all sorts in Scotland, don't you?

0:30:370:30:40

Once you float down to iPlayer,

0:30:400:30:42

you really start to meet people, don't you?

0:30:420:30:43

Thank you, Gordon.

0:30:430:30:46

APPLAUSE

0:30:460:30:48

We also have tattooist Andrew Burns. Andrew, where are you?

0:30:480:30:53

How are you doing, Andrew? I knew it was you from your tattoos.

0:30:530:30:55

- Yeah, could you tell? - Yeah, I'm faking it.

0:30:550:30:57

- How are you doing, man? - All right.

0:30:570:30:59

I hear you offered a special offer on Yes tattoos.

0:30:590:31:02

Yeah, I offered free Yes tattoos on...for a whole day.

0:31:020:31:07

Are you offering free tattoo removal?

0:31:070:31:09

No. We do tattoo removal, but you need to pay for that!

0:31:090:31:12

Yeah, I see how your business works!

0:31:120:31:14

LAUGHTER

0:31:140:31:17

We asked you what do you think is Scotland's greatest achievement.

0:31:170:31:22

And you said...Grand Theft Auto.

0:31:220:31:24

LAUGHTER

0:31:240:31:26

Prostitute murders, robbery, drug dealing.

0:31:260:31:30

Where does that Dundee-based games company gets its ideas from?

0:31:300:31:33

LAUGHTER I simply don't know!

0:31:330:31:36

Thank you to my audience!

0:31:360:31:39

Now, it's been a long two years reaching last week's verdict

0:31:450:31:48

and it's been a divisive and emotional campaign,

0:31:480:31:51

but at least we can all agree on something - my next proposition.

0:31:510:31:55

"Scotland and England's relationship

0:31:550:31:58

"is a pitiless abyss of hatred and despair."

0:31:580:32:02

We don't need English culture. Scotland has its own culture.

0:32:020:32:06

England has Glastonbury, we have T In The Park

0:32:060:32:09

where people get glassed and buried all the time.

0:32:090:32:11

Ed Miliband threatened to station guards at the border.

0:32:130:32:16

A militarised border!

0:32:160:32:18

Newcastle could have become a refugee camp

0:32:180:32:21

for English people trying to escape.

0:32:210:32:23

Newcastle would be the first place to become a refugee camp

0:32:230:32:26

and get LESS mental.

0:32:260:32:28

GEORDIE ACCENT: Things are a lot more civilised

0:32:280:32:31

now that we're ruled over by a horse militia.

0:32:310:32:33

LAUGHTER

0:32:330:32:35

Do you feel Scottish and English people hate each other?

0:32:350:32:38

I've been very surprised doing gigs because obviously you open...

0:32:380:32:41

Especially the whole kind of week leading up to referendum,

0:32:410:32:43

you open by going, "Oh, so this has been going on in Scotland,"

0:32:430:32:45

and just the four days before the vote,

0:32:450:32:48

English audiences suddenly got really angry.

0:32:480:32:50

Suddenly just sort of like, "Well, eff them, then,

0:32:500:32:53

"let them go, see what happens. Yeah, see if I care."

0:32:530:32:55

Their feelings were so hurt because so many people just feel British.

0:32:550:32:59

I think that we have more in common than you think

0:32:590:33:02

because the Scottish hate the English,

0:33:020:33:05

the English hate themselves

0:33:050:33:06

and everybody hates U2.

0:33:060:33:09

LAUGHTER

0:33:090:33:10

If we could just find those things and bond over them...

0:33:100:33:14

I mean, I don't believe...

0:33:140:33:16

I'm Canadian, but I'm a British mum

0:33:160:33:19

and I think it's really important that my daughter grows up

0:33:190:33:21

with Scottish influences, Irish influences,

0:33:210:33:24

you know, Wales to a lesser extent.

0:33:240:33:26

LAUGHTER

0:33:260:33:29

Well, this broken relationship continued

0:33:290:33:31

when the referendum coverage featured the most baffled Englishman

0:33:310:33:34

reporting on a Scotland he couldn't hope to understand.

0:33:340:33:37

Channel 4 went for Jacob Rees-Mogg.

0:33:370:33:40

- What's it a' aboot? - We'll just be a new country.

0:33:400:33:43

We'll be wir ain country noo, we'll be able to run...

0:33:430:33:46

No, I voted No and he helped me cos he hadnae voted.

0:33:460:33:49

I just wanted tae...

0:33:490:33:51

Yeah, I just want tae be part of the UK.

0:33:510:33:53

We've been like this a' wir time, eh?

0:33:530:33:56

Well, we would miss you if you went.

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What's the big difference between...?

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What is the difference between independence? What is it a' aboot?

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We be wir ain country and be able to run it and that.

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What is independence? What is it?

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- I don't even... - It's being part of the UK.

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There's Wales, Scotland and England...

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What, they're trying to change the money and a'thing?

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And the currency, they'll change the currency.

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- So, what will our money change to? - Oh, I don't know. I don't know.

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That will have to be decided after...

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Naw, I... So, independence, you dinnae want that to happen?

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Naw, I don't.

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LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

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ENGLISH ACCENT: Today I met two of the Scottish natives.

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They were drinking a clear liquid of which I partook.

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The next 48 hours were a blur of bestial imagery

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and invented language.

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I awoke in the doorway of HSBC, wearing somebody else's trousers.

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On my return I shall present my findings to the Royal Society.

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Well, like many relationships on the rocks, it was only when one half

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threatened to walk out the door that the other began to take it seriously.

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Westminster spent most of the campaign in denial,

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but when things got serious, their reaction was one of panic.

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Here's a cringeworthy attempt by David Cameron to bond with the Scots.

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REPORTER: David Cameron spoke to workers

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in Edinburgh's financial district in a way he's never spoken before.

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I think people can feel it's a bit like a general election,

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that you make a decision and five years later

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you can make another decision.

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If you are fed up with the effing Tories, give them a kick

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and then maybe we'll think again.

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You know, this is totally different to a general election.

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What gets me about that

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is he's clearly workshopped that with the guys at the office.

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"Shall I say effing?"

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"Oh, yeah, that'll get them. Yeah, we'll say effing. Yeah."

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"You all want to give the effing Tories a kicking, I know that.

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"I understand you people.

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"You'd like to give me an effing kicking,

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"tear me a new A, and S in my mouth."

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LAUGHTER

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"You'd like to tear off my B-bag and feed it to an Alsatian.

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"I know. I get it.

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"You'd like to tie some cheese wire round my D,

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"tie it to the back of a taxi and floor it."

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LAUGHTER

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Do you think Cameron came out of it at all well?

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He sort of came out of it better than Miliband.

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In a way maybe it did work because it was an awful speech

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and it's very uncomfortable to see him use language

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that isn't comfortable in his mouth,

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but you did watch it, thinking, "OK, yeah,

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"let's stay unified and get rid of this government together."

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Some people maybe did think that.

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And replace it with what -

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Ed Miliband, the kind of adenoidal manta ray?

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He's like a kind of dog toy.

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Now time for the audience to vote. Do you agree with me

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that Scotland and England's relationship

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is a pitiless abyss of hatred and despair?

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Green for yes, red for no.

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SARA: Oh, no!

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It's almost entirely green,

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but then I'm biased. It's...

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FRANKIE LAUGHS It's largely green.

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A yes vote there.

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Scottish people agree with me, as do a few English people

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who just didn't understand what the fuck I was saying.

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LAUGHTER

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Well, that's the end of our Referendum Autopsy.

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Thanks to my guests, Katherine Ryan and Sara Pascoe.

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CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

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But before I go, I want to leave you with this thought,

0:37:270:37:30

a little final thought in the style of Jerry Springer or He-Man.

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I don't know if you're... LAUGHTER

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Of course, the only way we can tell

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if this show has truly been a success or not

0:37:390:37:41

is to wait and see whether I am silenced by the security services.

0:37:410:37:45

That's the only way you know you've really hit the nail on the head

0:37:450:37:48

as a comedian - you are silenced by the security services,

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so if I am found hanged on the back of a hotel door,

0:37:520:37:54

with an orange in my mouth,

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at least you'll know the security services didn't get to me.

0:37:560:37:59

LAUGHTER

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What will happen is that one day I will go out,

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like Robin Cook or Dr David Kelly,

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I'll go to meet a friend for a walk in the countryside,

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but when I get to the top of the hill,

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it won't be my friend waiting for me, it will be a sergeant major,

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formerly of the Special Boat Squadron.

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We will both know that my time is up.

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I'll ask him for a final cigarette and he will bring out two,

0:38:220:38:27

one for me and one for him.

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I'll ask him if I can have a final wank as well.

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He will explain that my DNA would go everywhere and contaminate the scene,

0:38:330:38:37

so he will have brought a roll of lino for me to wank onto.

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I'll be wanking onto the lino

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and I'll ask him to stop looking at me and...

0:38:450:38:47

LAUGHTER

0:38:470:38:49

..he'll tell me that it's OK, he can't see me,

0:38:490:38:52

all he can see is his mate, upside down and burning in a Land Rover.

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That's all he ever sees, even when he closes his eyes.

0:38:560:38:59

He will ask me to hurry up because he has to

0:39:010:39:03

go and silence Russell Brand in a minute.

0:39:030:39:05

In the corner of my eye, I'll see him laying out Paul Ross's corpse

0:39:060:39:10

to make it look like we died in a gay suicide pact.

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I'll look down on the Scottish glen below me

0:39:150:39:18

and briefly imagine that the furious pumping of my fist

0:39:180:39:21

is what powers the turning of the entire world,

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then I'll feel a needle in the back of my neck

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and suddenly I'll be in the bosom of a Buddha who despises me.

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The chances of this show being made into a series are six to one against.

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Thanks for coming and good night.

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