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Las Vegas Spring 2014, and more than 50 years since he started out, | 0:00:15 | 0:00:21 | |
country music legend Kenny Rogers is still on the road. | 0:00:21 | 0:00:24 | |
# I wake up with this need again | 0:00:24 | 0:00:29 | |
# But feel the love of the woman beside me... # | 0:00:29 | 0:00:33 | |
Kenny Rogers' winning streak has netted an astonishing 120 million | 0:00:34 | 0:00:39 | |
album sales worldwide and enough awards to fill the Grand Ol' Opry. | 0:00:39 | 0:00:45 | |
# ..And listen to the rain fall on the roof... # | 0:00:45 | 0:00:50 | |
Now 76, playing live is still where this American icon thrives. | 0:00:50 | 0:00:56 | |
# Oh, I listen to her breathe and it makes me want to | 0:00:56 | 0:01:00 | |
# Wake her up and tell her that I'm on fire... # | 0:01:00 | 0:01:04 | |
Rogers' ear for a great song landed hits that broke down musical | 0:01:04 | 0:01:07 | |
barriers and made him a global superstar. | 0:01:07 | 0:01:10 | |
He's a full-on giver on stage, | 0:01:11 | 0:01:14 | |
not to mention probably one of the greatest storytellers. | 0:01:14 | 0:01:17 | |
There was no-one bigger in the music world in the 1980s. | 0:01:17 | 0:01:22 | |
He was huge. I mean, he was a worldwide bona fide star. | 0:01:22 | 0:01:27 | |
Today Kenny's country music royalty, | 0:01:27 | 0:01:31 | |
but an early brush with fame as an unlikely poster-boy | 0:01:31 | 0:01:33 | |
for the psychedelic generation was a long way from Nashville. | 0:01:33 | 0:01:37 | |
MUSIC PLAYS: Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In by The First Edition | 0:01:37 | 0:01:41 | |
I did acid one time. I learned from that this is as far as I want to go. | 0:01:41 | 0:01:46 | |
Greater highs lay ahead, | 0:01:46 | 0:01:48 | |
but the journey to the top almost ended before it began. | 0:01:48 | 0:01:51 | |
He was a bit rudderless. He really didn't know what he was going to do. | 0:01:51 | 0:01:55 | |
This course is yours for only 6.95 with the special TV offer. | 0:01:55 | 0:01:58 | |
It was a gamble on a song that no-one else rated | 0:01:58 | 0:02:01 | |
that eventually brought the 38-year-old Kenny Superstardom. | 0:02:01 | 0:02:05 | |
# You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille. # | 0:02:05 | 0:02:09 | |
The great thing about Kenny is he'll take a chance. | 0:02:09 | 0:02:12 | |
I mean, he's had a career taking chances. | 0:02:12 | 0:02:16 | |
I'm a gambler. | 0:02:16 | 0:02:17 | |
MUSIC PLAYS: Lucille by Kenny Rogers | 0:02:17 | 0:02:20 | |
By continuing to ride his luck, | 0:02:20 | 0:02:22 | |
he's re-written the country music rule book. | 0:02:22 | 0:02:25 | |
# Islands in the stream | 0:02:25 | 0:02:27 | |
# That is what we are... # | 0:02:27 | 0:02:29 | |
He's an amazing talent and a genius. | 0:02:29 | 0:02:30 | |
You can't get any better than number one on the country charts | 0:02:30 | 0:02:33 | |
and on the pop charts. | 0:02:33 | 0:02:34 | |
# ..Sail away with me to another world... # | 0:02:34 | 0:02:37 | |
Like the subject of a great country song, | 0:02:37 | 0:02:40 | |
this is the story of a poor boy from Texas whose musical gambles | 0:02:40 | 0:02:44 | |
took him to riches beyond his wildest dreams, | 0:02:44 | 0:02:46 | |
and whose unique voice | 0:02:46 | 0:02:48 | |
has given us some of the most enduring sounds in pop history. | 0:02:48 | 0:02:52 | |
CHEERING | 0:02:52 | 0:02:54 | |
Ladies and gentlemen, | 0:02:54 | 0:02:56 | |
Kenny Rogers! | 0:02:56 | 0:02:59 | |
My mom said it very well one day. | 0:02:59 | 0:03:01 | |
She said, "That boy never worked a day in his life. | 0:03:01 | 0:03:04 | |
"All he ever did was sing." | 0:03:04 | 0:03:05 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:03:05 | 0:03:09 | |
Kenneth Ray Rogers was born in Houston Texas in 1939, | 0:03:16 | 0:03:21 | |
the fourth of eight children | 0:03:21 | 0:03:22 | |
born to hospital worker Lucille Lois and carpenter Edward Rogers, | 0:03:22 | 0:03:27 | |
growing up in the poor San Felipe neighbourhood of the city. | 0:03:27 | 0:03:30 | |
I was raised in the projects in Houston | 0:03:32 | 0:03:35 | |
and, at the time, there were a lot of people in there, | 0:03:35 | 0:03:38 | |
and it was really a great environment, | 0:03:38 | 0:03:40 | |
because I had a hundred friends all within two blocks, | 0:03:40 | 0:03:44 | |
and none of us had any money, but we didn't know the difference. | 0:03:44 | 0:03:48 | |
You don't realise you don't have money until you see someone who does. | 0:03:48 | 0:03:52 | |
Kenny had grown up in abject poverty. | 0:03:52 | 0:03:55 | |
You know, eight kids in one room at a time, a father who... | 0:03:55 | 0:03:58 | |
I think Kenny told me | 0:03:58 | 0:03:59 | |
the most he ever made in any one week was 65. | 0:03:59 | 0:04:03 | |
Living through depression-era America | 0:04:03 | 0:04:05 | |
took its toll on Kenneth's father. | 0:04:05 | 0:04:09 | |
He was an alcoholic and basically a very unhappy man, | 0:04:09 | 0:04:13 | |
but music made him happy. | 0:04:13 | 0:04:17 | |
When I was a young boy, we'd get into the back of the pick-up truck | 0:04:17 | 0:04:21 | |
and we'd stand with our heads | 0:04:21 | 0:04:23 | |
above the cab and the wind blowing in our hair, | 0:04:23 | 0:04:26 | |
and we'd drive up to East Texas, | 0:04:26 | 0:04:28 | |
where my grandfather and grandmother lived, | 0:04:28 | 0:04:30 | |
and my dad played fiddle, | 0:04:30 | 0:04:33 | |
and all of his brothers and sisters played instruments, | 0:04:33 | 0:04:35 | |
and they played gospel music | 0:04:35 | 0:04:37 | |
and all the kids would sit in the yard and listen. | 0:04:37 | 0:04:40 | |
It just was a great feeling, you know, | 0:04:40 | 0:04:42 | |
that moment of being there with your dad when he's doing something | 0:04:42 | 0:04:47 | |
and seeing how much he loved it, and I loved that. | 0:04:47 | 0:04:50 | |
Despite the family's lack of money, | 0:04:51 | 0:04:54 | |
Kenny's childhood was rich in other ways. | 0:04:54 | 0:04:58 | |
In the late '40s and early '50s, | 0:04:58 | 0:05:01 | |
he would have been surrounded by a complete banquet | 0:05:01 | 0:05:04 | |
of American music. | 0:05:04 | 0:05:06 | |
Houston was a huge blues town. Houston was a Hispanic town. | 0:05:06 | 0:05:09 | |
Houston was a country town. | 0:05:09 | 0:05:11 | |
Houston was a huge rock 'n' roll town. | 0:05:11 | 0:05:13 | |
And that whole cauldron | 0:05:13 | 0:05:14 | |
of American music was seething all around him. | 0:05:14 | 0:05:18 | |
# Look out, baby I want to be your man | 0:05:18 | 0:05:20 | |
# You got the kind of love that I understand | 0:05:20 | 0:05:23 | |
# All right. # | 0:05:23 | 0:05:25 | |
When I was about 12 or 13 years old, | 0:05:25 | 0:05:27 | |
I went to see Ray Charles with my sister, Barbara. | 0:05:27 | 0:05:31 | |
And I remember standing there and thinking | 0:05:31 | 0:05:33 | |
"I mean, how cool is this? People laugh at everything he says. | 0:05:33 | 0:05:37 | |
"They clap for everything he sings, and he's getting paid for it!" | 0:05:37 | 0:05:41 | |
So Ray Charles was my inspiration to get into this business. | 0:05:41 | 0:05:45 | |
Motivated by the likes of Charles, Kenny's adolescence was soon | 0:05:46 | 0:05:49 | |
revolving around music - singing in church choirs | 0:05:49 | 0:05:53 | |
and the school glee club. | 0:05:53 | 0:05:55 | |
Next step was finding an instrument to play. | 0:05:55 | 0:05:58 | |
There was a store downtown in Houston called H&H music | 0:05:58 | 0:06:02 | |
and you could go in and you could | 0:06:02 | 0:06:04 | |
pick a guitar off the shelf and see if you liked it, | 0:06:04 | 0:06:06 | |
and I would sit in there and every day at lunch | 0:06:06 | 0:06:09 | |
guys who were much better players - | 0:06:09 | 0:06:11 | |
"Hey, let me show you this chord." | 0:06:11 | 0:06:13 | |
And that's how I learned to play. | 0:06:13 | 0:06:15 | |
Then when I got in high school, | 0:06:15 | 0:06:17 | |
we would put a little group together called The Scholars. | 0:06:17 | 0:06:20 | |
The whole idea was to go and play at all the high school proms, | 0:06:20 | 0:06:23 | |
because someone told us | 0:06:23 | 0:06:25 | |
that all the guys who sang in the groups got all of the girls. | 0:06:25 | 0:06:28 | |
Wasn't necessarily true, | 0:06:28 | 0:06:29 | |
but it was a good starting point. | 0:06:29 | 0:06:31 | |
And we did some pretty cool stuff, and we cut some records. | 0:06:31 | 0:06:34 | |
-# Beloved -Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh | 0:06:34 | 0:06:39 | |
-# My heart cries for you -Ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh. -# | 0:06:39 | 0:06:44 | |
The Scholars was where I first heard singing harmony, | 0:06:44 | 0:06:48 | |
and I loved harmony. | 0:06:48 | 0:06:49 | |
I never wanted to sing by myself. | 0:06:49 | 0:06:51 | |
I never wanted to be a solo singer. | 0:06:51 | 0:06:53 | |
I always wanted to sing harmony, | 0:06:53 | 0:06:55 | |
because there's something that really ties you together. | 0:06:55 | 0:06:59 | |
Kenny is the harmony singer's harmony singer. | 0:06:59 | 0:07:02 | |
If you're the lead vocal, he's going to shadow you like a dog. | 0:07:02 | 0:07:06 | |
He is going to match you note for note, | 0:07:06 | 0:07:08 | |
and he's going to hit every harmony note perfectly. | 0:07:08 | 0:07:11 | |
# I never knew a kiss could thrill me so | 0:07:11 | 0:07:15 | |
# She woke me up and baby now I know. # | 0:07:15 | 0:07:18 | |
Kenny's time in the teenage band lasted little over a year, | 0:07:18 | 0:07:21 | |
but he knew music was his future. | 0:07:21 | 0:07:25 | |
# It's not just the way you say hello | 0:07:25 | 0:07:29 | |
# Whenever we should meet... # | 0:07:29 | 0:07:33 | |
In 1958, Kenny scored a minor hit | 0:07:33 | 0:07:35 | |
with a song called "That Crazy Feeling". | 0:07:35 | 0:07:37 | |
But his first stab at solo success was short-lived. | 0:07:39 | 0:07:43 | |
I was singing songs for commercials, and then I met Bobby Doyle, | 0:07:45 | 0:07:50 | |
and this guy was blind, and he said, | 0:07:50 | 0:07:52 | |
"I'm going to put together a jazz group. | 0:07:52 | 0:07:54 | |
"And I'd like for you to come play bass with me." | 0:07:54 | 0:07:57 | |
I said, "Well, Bobby, I don't even play bass." | 0:07:57 | 0:07:59 | |
And he said, "I'll teach you how to play bass." | 0:07:59 | 0:08:01 | |
# And if I want to sing throw my heart in the ring | 0:08:01 | 0:08:05 | |
# It's a most unusual day | 0:08:05 | 0:08:08 | |
# There are people meeting people | 0:08:08 | 0:08:12 | |
# There is music everywhere | 0:08:12 | 0:08:16 | |
# There are people greeting people | 0:08:16 | 0:08:19 | |
# And a feeling's ringing in the air. # | 0:08:19 | 0:08:24 | |
Joining the Bobby Doyle Three in 1959 | 0:08:24 | 0:08:27 | |
was a key step in Kenny's musical education. | 0:08:27 | 0:08:30 | |
We did Broadway show songs. | 0:08:32 | 0:08:33 | |
We did jazz, and it was very intricate stuff | 0:08:33 | 0:08:36 | |
and he taught us all of this and we learned discipline through that. | 0:08:36 | 0:08:40 | |
But, most importantly, | 0:08:40 | 0:08:42 | |
it gave me an appreciation for other types of music. | 0:08:42 | 0:08:46 | |
# Manic | 0:08:46 | 0:08:49 | |
# Manic... # | 0:08:49 | 0:08:50 | |
The debut Bobby Doyle Three album was released in 1962. | 0:08:50 | 0:08:54 | |
Although it failed to set the world alight, | 0:08:54 | 0:08:56 | |
the group were in demand on the Houston live circuit. | 0:08:56 | 0:08:59 | |
The Bobby Doyle Trio had tremendous impact on Kenny. | 0:09:00 | 0:09:04 | |
He went on the road with them | 0:09:04 | 0:09:06 | |
and he learned so much about the business at that point in time. | 0:09:06 | 0:09:10 | |
We would rehearse seven or eight hours a day | 0:09:10 | 0:09:12 | |
and then we would work seven or eight hours a night, | 0:09:12 | 0:09:15 | |
so it was a full-time job. | 0:09:15 | 0:09:18 | |
The trio also became a backing band for jazz singer Kirby Stone, | 0:09:21 | 0:09:25 | |
who was instrumental in helping | 0:09:25 | 0:09:27 | |
Kenny make his next musical leap forward. | 0:09:27 | 0:09:30 | |
Kirby called his friend who owned the New Christy Minstrels | 0:09:30 | 0:09:34 | |
and said, "We have a guy that you should hire. He plays bass." | 0:09:34 | 0:09:37 | |
And at the time, I could sing really high parts, | 0:09:37 | 0:09:40 | |
and so I got on the telephone | 0:09:40 | 0:09:42 | |
in a hotel lobby and auditioned for this part and they hired me. | 0:09:42 | 0:09:48 | |
# I know where I'm going | 0:09:48 | 0:09:51 | |
# And I know who's going with me... # | 0:09:51 | 0:09:55 | |
Having passed his telephone audition, | 0:09:55 | 0:09:57 | |
Kenny left Houston to join the LA-based New Christy Minstrels. | 0:09:57 | 0:10:02 | |
It was an interesting group for me, because I went from jazz, | 0:10:02 | 0:10:05 | |
which was a very, very extreme form of music, | 0:10:05 | 0:10:10 | |
to folk music, which was the ultimate in simplicity. | 0:10:10 | 0:10:14 | |
# Green, green It's green they say | 0:10:14 | 0:10:16 | |
# On the far side of the hill... # | 0:10:16 | 0:10:18 | |
The Minstrels featured an | 0:10:18 | 0:10:20 | |
ever-changing line-up of folk singers and musicians | 0:10:20 | 0:10:23 | |
that included future stars Barry McGuire, | 0:10:23 | 0:10:26 | |
Gene Clarke of the Byrds and, | 0:10:26 | 0:10:29 | |
when Kenny joined the band in 1966, | 0:10:29 | 0:10:31 | |
a 20-year-old Kim Carnes. | 0:10:31 | 0:10:34 | |
It was like school on the road. | 0:10:35 | 0:10:38 | |
That's what it was, and I think everybody looked at it that way. | 0:10:38 | 0:10:41 | |
It wasn't a for ever thing. | 0:10:41 | 0:10:43 | |
# This land is your land | 0:10:43 | 0:10:45 | |
# This land is my land... # | 0:10:45 | 0:10:47 | |
I learned the beauty of a story song that had social significance. | 0:10:47 | 0:10:52 | |
They did "Green, Green, This Land Is Your Land", | 0:10:52 | 0:10:55 | |
and it was about songs with meaning other than just words. | 0:10:55 | 0:11:01 | |
# As I went walking that ribbon of highway... # | 0:11:01 | 0:11:05 | |
The Christys was a great learning curve, | 0:11:05 | 0:11:08 | |
but their trad-folk sound was fast becoming out of date and in 1967, | 0:11:08 | 0:11:12 | |
Kenny and three fellow Minstrels | 0:11:12 | 0:11:14 | |
took a gamble and formed their own band. | 0:11:14 | 0:11:18 | |
# Reason | 0:11:18 | 0:11:20 | |
# Got myself a reason | 0:11:20 | 0:11:21 | |
# Reason | 0:11:21 | 0:11:23 | |
# Got myself a reason | 0:11:23 | 0:11:25 | |
# I used to walk the streets... # | 0:11:25 | 0:11:27 | |
Hot off the press, | 0:11:27 | 0:11:29 | |
The First Edition were snapped-up | 0:11:29 | 0:11:30 | |
by Frank Sinatra's producer Jimmy Bowen. | 0:11:30 | 0:11:32 | |
We left the Christys on a Friday, | 0:11:34 | 0:11:36 | |
and went to Reprise Records on Monday, | 0:11:36 | 0:11:38 | |
and started an album a week later. | 0:11:38 | 0:11:41 | |
Kenny grew a beard and swapped his upright bass for an electric. | 0:11:41 | 0:11:46 | |
Bob Dylan's former drummer Mickey Jones completed the line-up. | 0:11:46 | 0:11:50 | |
The band were soon spotted by a man who was to become | 0:11:54 | 0:11:56 | |
instrumental in shaping Kenny's future career. | 0:11:56 | 0:11:59 | |
I was producing a number one television show in America | 0:12:00 | 0:12:03 | |
called the Smothers Brothers Comedy Hour | 0:12:03 | 0:12:06 | |
and a lawyer who represented the Smothers kept calling me | 0:12:06 | 0:12:10 | |
and saying, "There is a group appearing at this club. | 0:12:10 | 0:12:13 | |
"You've got to go see them." | 0:12:13 | 0:12:14 | |
-# It's not love at all but just practice for you. -# | 0:12:15 | 0:12:21 | |
The lead in that group was a girl named Thelma Camacho | 0:12:21 | 0:12:24 | |
and she was this gorgeous young woman that all the guys watching | 0:12:24 | 0:12:28 | |
fell in love with, and she was the focal point along with a kid named | 0:12:28 | 0:12:32 | |
Terry Williams, and Kenny just was the bass player. | 0:12:32 | 0:12:35 | |
But I was knocked out by the group. | 0:12:35 | 0:12:37 | |
And the next thing we knew we put them on the show, | 0:12:37 | 0:12:39 | |
and we started managing them. | 0:12:39 | 0:12:41 | |
With manager Ken Kraken's connections | 0:12:41 | 0:12:43 | |
and their regular appearances on TV, | 0:12:43 | 0:12:46 | |
the First Edition began to make waves. | 0:12:46 | 0:12:49 | |
But the band needed a hit. | 0:12:49 | 0:12:51 | |
Kenny remembered a song that had been offered | 0:12:51 | 0:12:53 | |
to the New Christy Minstrels. | 0:12:53 | 0:12:56 | |
"Just Dropped In To See What Condition My Condition Was In" | 0:12:56 | 0:12:58 | |
had been too way out for them, | 0:12:58 | 0:13:00 | |
but it felt perfect for his groovy new band. | 0:13:00 | 0:13:03 | |
I had no idea what it meant, but I knew it was weird enough | 0:13:04 | 0:13:08 | |
to be successful, and I said, "I really want to do that." | 0:13:08 | 0:13:12 | |
The record company gathered together a dream team to look after | 0:13:13 | 0:13:16 | |
the band in the studio that included producer Mike Post | 0:13:16 | 0:13:20 | |
and highly sought after session musician Glen Campbell. | 0:13:20 | 0:13:24 | |
Glen Campbell played a little lick | 0:13:24 | 0:13:27 | |
and Mike Post was rewinding the tape, | 0:13:27 | 0:13:30 | |
and he said, "Oh, I like it better that way," | 0:13:30 | 0:13:33 | |
so he played on and played the thing Glen played backwards. | 0:13:33 | 0:13:37 | |
That's why it goes wah-wah-wah-wah. | 0:13:37 | 0:13:39 | |
It was so ahead of its time | 0:13:39 | 0:13:41 | |
and the subject matter was so 60s | 0:13:41 | 0:13:43 | |
that everybody related to it. | 0:13:43 | 0:13:46 | |
# Yeah, yeah, oh, yeah | 0:13:48 | 0:13:50 | |
# What condition my condition was in | 0:13:50 | 0:13:55 | |
# I woke up this morning with the sundown shining in... # | 0:13:56 | 0:14:02 | |
With Kenny on lead vocals, | 0:14:02 | 0:14:04 | |
his wager on the psychedelic song proved well-placed. | 0:14:04 | 0:14:07 | |
It wryly reflected the hippy hedonism of the era | 0:14:07 | 0:14:10 | |
and gave the band their first Top Ten Hit. | 0:14:10 | 0:14:15 | |
It's an illustration of how Kenny would tap into the times, | 0:14:15 | 0:14:19 | |
would tap into the zeitgeist of what | 0:14:19 | 0:14:22 | |
particularly the young people at the time were thinking about. | 0:14:22 | 0:14:26 | |
The song provides a flashback to Kenny's own brief flirtation | 0:14:26 | 0:14:29 | |
with psychedelic substances. | 0:14:29 | 0:14:32 | |
I did acid one-time and the first eight hours was phenomenal. | 0:14:32 | 0:14:37 | |
Then the second eight hours, you know, it was a little iffy | 0:14:37 | 0:14:40 | |
and the third eight hours scared me to death. | 0:14:40 | 0:14:42 | |
I mean, I learned from that, this is as far as I want to go. | 0:14:42 | 0:14:46 | |
"Just Dropped In" found a new generation of fans, | 0:14:48 | 0:14:51 | |
thanks to this Busby Berkley-inspired dream | 0:14:51 | 0:14:53 | |
sequence from the 1998 cult film The Big Lebowski. | 0:14:53 | 0:14:58 | |
# I couldn't unwind | 0:14:58 | 0:15:00 | |
# I saw so much | 0:15:00 | 0:15:03 | |
# I broke my mind | 0:15:03 | 0:15:05 | |
# I just dropped in to see what condition... # | 0:15:05 | 0:15:08 | |
It was a fun song, it got tremendous recognition for the group. | 0:15:08 | 0:15:13 | |
And you still hear it to this day. | 0:15:13 | 0:15:15 | |
The challenge now was how to follow Just Dropped In's success. | 0:15:21 | 0:15:25 | |
They were struggling to complete their third LP - | 0:15:25 | 0:15:27 | |
First Edition 69 - | 0:15:27 | 0:15:29 | |
but Kenny's ear for a great song came to the rescue yet again | 0:15:29 | 0:15:33 | |
with the idea to record one of their live favourites. | 0:15:33 | 0:15:36 | |
Kenneth piped up and he said, "You know, | 0:15:36 | 0:15:39 | |
"we do a song in the show | 0:15:39 | 0:15:43 | |
"that is huge. | 0:15:43 | 0:15:45 | |
"It's a smash. | 0:15:45 | 0:15:47 | |
"Every time we do it... | 0:15:47 | 0:15:48 | |
"It's called Ruby, Don't Take Your Love to Town." | 0:15:48 | 0:15:52 | |
# You've painted up your lips | 0:15:52 | 0:15:54 | |
# And rolled and curled your tinted hair... # | 0:15:54 | 0:15:56 | |
I went in and told the band what to do and I said, | 0:15:56 | 0:15:59 | |
"Let's do it this way, | 0:15:59 | 0:16:00 | |
"and we're going to sing it. We did it in 20 minutes." | 0:16:00 | 0:16:03 | |
# ..Ruby, are you contemplating going out somewhere... # | 0:16:03 | 0:16:07 | |
A world away from mind-bending psychedelia, | 0:16:07 | 0:16:10 | |
Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town | 0:16:10 | 0:16:12 | |
told the tale of a paralysed Korean War veteran, | 0:16:12 | 0:16:14 | |
agonising over his wife's infidelity. | 0:16:14 | 0:16:17 | |
# ..Oh, Ruby... | 0:16:17 | 0:16:24 | |
# Don't take your love to town... # | 0:16:24 | 0:16:27 | |
It was a bold song to record at a time | 0:16:27 | 0:16:30 | |
when the US involvement in Vietnam was dividing the nation. | 0:16:30 | 0:16:33 | |
Producer Jimmy Bowen had his doubts. | 0:16:33 | 0:16:35 | |
He said, "You'll never get that played on the radio." | 0:16:37 | 0:16:40 | |
I said, "Jimmy, if we do, it's going to be a huge record." | 0:16:40 | 0:16:43 | |
When DJs started playing the track, the label conceded | 0:16:43 | 0:16:46 | |
and released it as a single, | 0:16:46 | 0:16:48 | |
along with an amendment to the band's name. | 0:16:48 | 0:16:51 | |
Ruby went through the roof, and that's what led to | 0:16:51 | 0:16:54 | |
it ultimately becoming Kenny Rogers and the First Edition. | 0:16:54 | 0:16:58 | |
With over a million sales by the end of 1970, the song's success | 0:16:58 | 0:17:01 | |
made international stars of the First Edition | 0:17:01 | 0:17:04 | |
and gave them with their first UK top 10 hit, | 0:17:04 | 0:17:07 | |
while cementing Kenny's position as frontman. | 0:17:07 | 0:17:10 | |
Jimmy said, "Well, we can't get away from that," | 0:17:10 | 0:17:13 | |
so everything was called Kenny Rogers and the First Edition, | 0:17:13 | 0:17:16 | |
not because I wanted it | 0:17:16 | 0:17:18 | |
but that was the business. | 0:17:18 | 0:17:20 | |
Over the years, Ruby became a signature song for Kenny | 0:17:20 | 0:17:24 | |
that he still does to this day in concert. | 0:17:24 | 0:17:26 | |
# ..Ruby... # | 0:17:26 | 0:17:32 | |
That kind of song never goes out of fashion. | 0:17:32 | 0:17:35 | |
People love soap operas. | 0:17:35 | 0:17:38 | |
They love stories. They love drama. | 0:17:38 | 0:17:42 | |
So it was very shrewdly chosen by Kenny. | 0:17:42 | 0:17:45 | |
I've always loved making a statement with the songs you do, | 0:17:48 | 0:17:52 | |
because they're the ones that resonate the most, you know? | 0:17:52 | 0:17:56 | |
# You lie in gentle sleep beside me... # | 0:17:57 | 0:18:04 | |
Released in 1970, the single Something's Burning | 0:18:04 | 0:18:08 | |
was another statement that almost proved too much for some. | 0:18:08 | 0:18:12 | |
# ..Your warm and rhythmic breathing... # | 0:18:12 | 0:18:16 | |
When the song was released, I must have gone to 30 radio stations | 0:18:16 | 0:18:19 | |
and they said, "Well, we think it's a beautiful record | 0:18:19 | 0:18:23 | |
"but it's a little too sexual for our radio station," | 0:18:23 | 0:18:27 | |
and I never heard a song called that before. | 0:18:27 | 0:18:30 | |
So I said, "OK." So they said no, they said no, they said no, | 0:18:30 | 0:18:33 | |
and so then I flew to London, | 0:18:33 | 0:18:36 | |
I did the Tom Jones television show, | 0:18:36 | 0:18:38 | |
which aired in the United States and by the time I got back, | 0:18:38 | 0:18:42 | |
all those same stations were playing Something Burning. | 0:18:42 | 0:18:46 | |
# Feel it | 0:18:46 | 0:18:47 | |
# Feel it | 0:18:47 | 0:18:49 | |
# Fire | 0:18:51 | 0:18:53 | |
# Fire | 0:18:53 | 0:18:55 | |
# Something's burning | 0:18:55 | 0:18:57 | |
# Something's burning | 0:18:57 | 0:18:59 | |
# Something's burning | 0:18:59 | 0:19:03 | |
# And I think it's love... | 0:19:03 | 0:19:07 | |
# And I think it's love... # | 0:19:08 | 0:19:11 | |
He had a feel for a hit song. | 0:19:11 | 0:19:13 | |
He had great ears for a hit song. | 0:19:13 | 0:19:15 | |
That is a talent unto itself, | 0:19:15 | 0:19:17 | |
because there's a lot of great artists out there | 0:19:17 | 0:19:19 | |
that come up with a lot of shit songs | 0:19:19 | 0:19:21 | |
because they wouldn't know a hit song if it hit them in the face. | 0:19:21 | 0:19:24 | |
A worldwide success, | 0:19:24 | 0:19:26 | |
the song reached number eight in the UK charts | 0:19:26 | 0:19:28 | |
and earned the band a spot on Top Of The Pops. | 0:19:28 | 0:19:31 | |
Kenny Rogers and the First Edition seemed destined for great things. | 0:19:31 | 0:19:35 | |
# Day after day things kept going our way | 0:19:35 | 0:19:38 | |
# And your song kept getting stronger... # | 0:19:38 | 0:19:42 | |
Here we go. | 0:19:42 | 0:19:44 | |
But Something's Burning marked the peak of their fame | 0:19:44 | 0:19:46 | |
and was the last time one of their singles would chart | 0:19:46 | 0:19:49 | |
so high in their native country. | 0:19:49 | 0:19:51 | |
With record sales in steep decline, | 0:19:53 | 0:19:55 | |
it seemed the First Edition had become yesterday's news. | 0:19:55 | 0:19:59 | |
The band played their last gigs in Reno in the autumn of 1975. | 0:19:59 | 0:20:05 | |
The night that we broke up, it was dead silence | 0:20:05 | 0:20:09 | |
between all of us. | 0:20:09 | 0:20:11 | |
And the next morning, | 0:20:11 | 0:20:14 | |
we all went to the airport | 0:20:14 | 0:20:15 | |
and nobody spoke to anybody. | 0:20:15 | 0:20:18 | |
It was the most heartbreaking thing of my life. | 0:20:18 | 0:20:25 | |
It absolutely killed me. | 0:20:25 | 0:20:28 | |
The First Edition broke up around me. | 0:20:29 | 0:20:32 | |
I never wanted to leave. | 0:20:32 | 0:20:33 | |
They just finally said, "We can't do this any more." | 0:20:33 | 0:20:37 | |
So I said, "Well, OK, what do I do now?" | 0:20:37 | 0:20:39 | |
# Don't look so sad | 0:20:39 | 0:20:42 | |
# I know it's over... # | 0:20:44 | 0:20:47 | |
The break-up mirrored a crisis in Kenny's personal life. | 0:20:49 | 0:20:52 | |
His drive to succeed had already led to the failure of two marriages | 0:20:52 | 0:20:56 | |
and a costly divorce with his third wife was looming. | 0:20:56 | 0:20:59 | |
When his father died that same year, | 0:20:59 | 0:21:02 | |
Kenny found himself in a dark place. | 0:21:02 | 0:21:05 | |
Kenny was somewhat lost. | 0:21:06 | 0:21:08 | |
He was wandering in the wilderness, as it were. | 0:21:08 | 0:21:11 | |
This course is yours for only 6.95 through this special TV offer. | 0:21:11 | 0:21:14 | |
With debts mounting, Kenny was forced to take any work | 0:21:14 | 0:21:17 | |
that was on offer. | 0:21:17 | 0:21:19 | |
Fun strumming. | 0:21:19 | 0:21:21 | |
Home guitar course. | 0:21:22 | 0:21:23 | |
Still hungry to succeed in the music business, | 0:21:23 | 0:21:27 | |
37-year-old Rogers took what seemed like one last roll of the dice. | 0:21:27 | 0:21:31 | |
With the exception of Just Dropped In, | 0:21:31 | 0:21:33 | |
everything we did was really country influenced. | 0:21:33 | 0:21:37 | |
The only reference I had | 0:21:37 | 0:21:39 | |
was that I had had some success in country music. | 0:21:39 | 0:21:42 | |
# Six foot six he stood on the ground | 0:21:42 | 0:21:45 | |
# He weighed 235 pounds | 0:21:45 | 0:21:48 | |
# But I saw that giant of a man | 0:21:48 | 0:21:51 | |
# Brought down to his knees by love... # | 0:21:51 | 0:21:54 | |
Hoping to build on past success, | 0:21:55 | 0:21:57 | |
Kenny headed for the epicentre of country music - Nashville. | 0:21:57 | 0:22:01 | |
# ..Look you in the eye and never back up... # | 0:22:01 | 0:22:04 | |
It was there he met Larry Butler, | 0:22:04 | 0:22:06 | |
producer of some of Johnny Cash's biggest hits | 0:22:06 | 0:22:09 | |
and head of United Artists' Nashville division. | 0:22:09 | 0:22:12 | |
He really believed in me. | 0:22:14 | 0:22:16 | |
I was 37 years old when I signed a country music record deal | 0:22:16 | 0:22:19 | |
and the president of the company said, | 0:22:19 | 0:22:22 | |
"We don't hire people, we don't sign people that old." | 0:22:22 | 0:22:25 | |
He said, "You signed who?" I said, "I signed Kenny Rogers." | 0:22:25 | 0:22:29 | |
And he said, "Why? His career is over. | 0:22:29 | 0:22:32 | |
"He's had a great run but it's over." | 0:22:32 | 0:22:35 | |
I said, "No, I think it's just beginning. | 0:22:35 | 0:22:37 | |
"With what I have in mind for him, this will be a whole new career." | 0:22:37 | 0:22:40 | |
# I'll write myself a simple song | 0:22:40 | 0:22:43 | |
# Get the whole world to sing along | 0:22:43 | 0:22:46 | |
# I'll call it... # | 0:22:46 | 0:22:48 | |
With Larry's strong musical direction, | 0:22:48 | 0:22:51 | |
they set about recording songs for a new album at a frantic pace. | 0:22:51 | 0:22:54 | |
Country artists would go in and do a whole album in two or three days. | 0:22:54 | 0:22:59 | |
I mean, literally. Kenny did it. | 0:22:59 | 0:23:01 | |
It was just crazy. | 0:23:01 | 0:23:03 | |
But Larry had that kind of energy, and so did I. | 0:23:03 | 0:23:06 | |
# ..I'll just sing love lifted me... # | 0:23:06 | 0:23:12 | |
Despite their efforts, Kenny's first solo album sold poorly. | 0:23:12 | 0:23:17 | |
The record company, who'd needed convincing before signing Kenny, | 0:23:19 | 0:23:23 | |
weren't keen on a second album. | 0:23:23 | 0:23:25 | |
Kenny and Larry needed to find that elusive hit. | 0:23:25 | 0:23:29 | |
They were fighting about it. "What are you doing?" | 0:23:29 | 0:23:32 | |
Larry said, "Just let me do this. | 0:23:32 | 0:23:34 | |
He would go find songs and bring them back to me. | 0:23:34 | 0:23:38 | |
One of those songs was written by Hal Bynum. | 0:23:38 | 0:23:41 | |
It was the last session and Kenny said, | 0:23:43 | 0:23:46 | |
"Let's do that little beer-drinking song." | 0:23:46 | 0:23:49 | |
So they did. | 0:23:49 | 0:23:50 | |
# In a bar in Toledo | 0:23:50 | 0:23:53 | |
# Across from the depot | 0:23:53 | 0:23:56 | |
# On a bar stool she took off her ring... # | 0:23:56 | 0:23:59 | |
Kenny sent me the songs that he'd recorded down there | 0:23:59 | 0:24:02 | |
so we all sat down to listen to them and all of a sudden | 0:24:02 | 0:24:05 | |
this song Lucille comes on. | 0:24:05 | 0:24:07 | |
And we start laughing | 0:24:07 | 0:24:09 | |
and we cannot believe this song. | 0:24:09 | 0:24:11 | |
I said, "This is either the biggest hit or the biggest dud | 0:24:11 | 0:24:14 | |
"you've ever seen, but one thing for sure, | 0:24:14 | 0:24:17 | |
"people are going to talk about it," and we went to the record company | 0:24:17 | 0:24:20 | |
and said, "You gotta release Lucille," and they said, | 0:24:20 | 0:24:23 | |
"No, we're releasing..." some other song that never went anywhere, | 0:24:23 | 0:24:26 | |
and Lucille ended up being a third release, | 0:24:26 | 0:24:28 | |
and it was the one that really took off. | 0:24:28 | 0:24:31 | |
# ..You picked a fine time to leave me, Lucille | 0:24:31 | 0:24:36 | |
# With four hungry children and a crop in the field... # | 0:24:36 | 0:24:40 | |
It's got all the elements of a country hit. | 0:24:40 | 0:24:43 | |
It touched all the nerves | 0:24:43 | 0:24:45 | |
and it was simple and easy to follow | 0:24:45 | 0:24:46 | |
and he delivered it just right. | 0:24:46 | 0:24:49 | |
You couldn't hold that song back. | 0:24:49 | 0:24:51 | |
The surprising thing about Lucille | 0:24:51 | 0:24:53 | |
is not that it was a country hit, | 0:24:53 | 0:24:55 | |
but that it was a pop hit | 0:24:55 | 0:24:58 | |
and, furthermore, an international hit. | 0:24:58 | 0:25:01 | |
It hit with a typhoon force. It was omnipresent. | 0:25:01 | 0:25:04 | |
# ..After he left us I ordered more whisky | 0:25:04 | 0:25:06 | |
# I thought how she'd made him look small | 0:25:06 | 0:25:09 | |
# From the lights of the bar room... # | 0:25:09 | 0:25:12 | |
Lucille reached number one in 12 countries in 1977, | 0:25:12 | 0:25:16 | |
selling over five million copies worldwide. | 0:25:16 | 0:25:19 | |
It remains one of Kenny's most popular hits. | 0:25:19 | 0:25:22 | |
I still contend that if you start off with great songs, | 0:25:22 | 0:25:25 | |
you've got to screw them up. | 0:25:25 | 0:25:26 | |
And I tried hard not to screw them up. | 0:25:26 | 0:25:29 | |
Everybody in the back, you picked a fine time, really loud now. | 0:25:29 | 0:25:33 | |
# You picked a fine time to leave me... # | 0:25:33 | 0:25:35 | |
One last time, here we go. | 0:25:35 | 0:25:37 | |
# ..You picked a fine time... # | 0:25:38 | 0:25:41 | |
But there was one person who wasn't too happy about the song - | 0:25:41 | 0:25:44 | |
Kenny's Mum. | 0:25:44 | 0:25:46 | |
Her name was Lucille, and she said, | 0:25:46 | 0:25:48 | |
"I can't believe you would write a song about me and the family." | 0:25:48 | 0:25:52 | |
First of all, I didn't write the song, | 0:25:52 | 0:25:54 | |
and secondly, it's not about you. And she was kind of hurt by that | 0:25:54 | 0:25:58 | |
but I said, "Think about it. First of all, you have eight kids. | 0:25:58 | 0:26:01 | |
"Why would I say four?" | 0:26:01 | 0:26:02 | |
And so she got to where she was OK with it | 0:26:02 | 0:26:05 | |
but she did not like it at first. | 0:26:05 | 0:26:08 | |
# ..I've had some bad times | 0:26:08 | 0:26:11 | |
# Lived through some sad times | 0:26:11 | 0:26:13 | |
# This time your hurting won't heal... # | 0:26:13 | 0:26:18 | |
18 months after nearly cashing in his chips, | 0:26:18 | 0:26:21 | |
Lucille gave Kenny credibility with Nashville's country music fraternity | 0:26:21 | 0:26:25 | |
and a strong musical direction to follow. | 0:26:25 | 0:26:28 | |
It grounded me. | 0:26:30 | 0:26:31 | |
Instead of flying all over the handle and doing all types of music, | 0:26:31 | 0:26:35 | |
it kind of grounded me and gave me a base I could count on. | 0:26:35 | 0:26:40 | |
Once we found Lucille, | 0:26:40 | 0:26:42 | |
that just busted everything wide open. | 0:26:42 | 0:26:45 | |
Then everything we touched was gold. | 0:26:45 | 0:26:48 | |
# Doctor, can you find the cure? | 0:26:48 | 0:26:51 | |
# Tell me, are you really sure? # | 0:26:51 | 0:26:55 | |
With the success of Lucille, bookings began to flood in. | 0:26:55 | 0:27:01 | |
We went from playing lounges in small places | 0:27:01 | 0:27:04 | |
to 7,000- to 8,000-seat arenas, | 0:27:04 | 0:27:06 | |
I mean literally, it seemed, overnight. | 0:27:06 | 0:27:08 | |
Add water and, pff, here comes a career, like that. | 0:27:08 | 0:27:11 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:27:11 | 0:27:14 | |
I think it was a big adjustment for him. | 0:27:15 | 0:27:18 | |
All of a sudden, he's got three security guards | 0:27:18 | 0:27:21 | |
getting him too and from the places, | 0:27:21 | 0:27:23 | |
he's got his own plane to fly around in, you know? | 0:27:23 | 0:27:25 | |
And it was very, very fast. | 0:27:25 | 0:27:29 | |
# Falling in love... # | 0:27:31 | 0:27:33 | |
Kenny's career AND personal life were well and truly on the up. | 0:27:33 | 0:27:37 | |
In October 1977, he married his fourth wife, Marianne. | 0:27:37 | 0:27:43 | |
By 1978, Kenny's growing popularity meant that he was | 0:27:45 | 0:27:49 | |
a magnet for songwriters. | 0:27:49 | 0:27:51 | |
We all wanted a Kenny Rogers record. | 0:27:52 | 0:27:55 | |
But since I'd grown up listening to Ruby, Don't Take Your Love To Town, | 0:27:55 | 0:28:00 | |
I'd heard the man's ability to tell a story, | 0:28:00 | 0:28:03 | |
and The Gambler, it was a Kenny Rogers song. | 0:28:03 | 0:28:06 | |
It was a story that he could tell. | 0:28:06 | 0:28:08 | |
Kenny and Larry Butler made some changes. | 0:28:10 | 0:28:12 | |
There was a wonderful guitar intro that was not mine. | 0:28:12 | 0:28:15 | |
You hear the first notes and you know what song it's going to be. | 0:28:15 | 0:28:19 | |
# On a warm summer's evening | 0:28:19 | 0:28:21 | |
# On a train bound for nowhere | 0:28:21 | 0:28:24 | |
# I met up with a gambler | 0:28:24 | 0:28:26 | |
# We were both too tired to sleep... # | 0:28:26 | 0:28:29 | |
It's hard to believe now, | 0:28:29 | 0:28:31 | |
but at the time the odds were against The Gambler being a hit. | 0:28:31 | 0:28:35 | |
# ..Boredom overtook us... # | 0:28:35 | 0:28:38 | |
Previously recorded by Bobby Bare and Johnny Cash, | 0:28:38 | 0:28:41 | |
neither version had made an impact. | 0:28:41 | 0:28:44 | |
It didn't matter to him that it had been cut before | 0:28:44 | 0:28:46 | |
and hadn't succeeded. He knew a good song. | 0:28:46 | 0:28:48 | |
That's his genius. | 0:28:48 | 0:28:50 | |
The Gambler, to me, is THE perfect country song. | 0:28:51 | 0:28:55 | |
It starts in a little place and it sucks the listener in, | 0:28:55 | 0:28:58 | |
you can't wait to hear what's going to happen next. | 0:28:58 | 0:29:01 | |
# .. You've got to know when to hold 'em | 0:29:01 | 0:29:04 | |
# Know when to fold 'em | 0:29:04 | 0:29:07 | |
# Know when to walk away | 0:29:07 | 0:29:10 | |
# And know when to run | 0:29:10 | 0:29:12 | |
# You never count your money | 0:29:12 | 0:29:15 | |
# When you're sitting at the table | 0:29:15 | 0:29:17 | |
# There'll be time enough for counting | 0:29:17 | 0:29:20 | |
# When the dealing's done... # | 0:29:20 | 0:29:23 | |
Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em - | 0:29:23 | 0:29:25 | |
those two lines right there | 0:29:25 | 0:29:27 | |
probably quoted more than any country song in history. | 0:29:27 | 0:29:30 | |
It's brilliantly crafted and made him a persona. | 0:29:30 | 0:29:33 | |
It's like, "Oh, that grey-beard guy with the raspy voice? | 0:29:33 | 0:29:36 | |
"He's The Gambler." | 0:29:36 | 0:29:38 | |
You might not know his name but you know he's The Gambler. | 0:29:38 | 0:29:41 | |
# ..The gambler, he broke even | 0:29:41 | 0:29:44 | |
# But in his final words | 0:29:44 | 0:29:46 | |
# I found an ace that I could keep... # | 0:29:46 | 0:29:49 | |
With the success of The Gambler, | 0:29:49 | 0:29:51 | |
it appeared Kenny had played his trump card, | 0:29:51 | 0:29:53 | |
but the artwork for the accompanying album led to Kenny's career | 0:29:53 | 0:29:57 | |
taking a surprising new direction. | 0:29:57 | 0:30:00 | |
It was a terrific picture, | 0:30:00 | 0:30:01 | |
and I had a huge poster of it made, like a movie-sized poster, you know? | 0:30:01 | 0:30:07 | |
And he walked up to the heads of... I guess it was CBS, | 0:30:07 | 0:30:10 | |
he walked on by and he said... | 0:30:10 | 0:30:11 | |
"I want to make a Movie of the Week." | 0:30:11 | 0:30:13 | |
And they looked at the picture, | 0:30:13 | 0:30:15 | |
and they went, "Sold." | 0:30:15 | 0:30:17 | |
# On a warm summer's evening... # | 0:30:18 | 0:30:20 | |
Inspired by the character in the song, | 0:30:20 | 0:30:22 | |
The Gambler TV movie starred Kenny in the lead role of Brady Hawkes. | 0:30:22 | 0:30:27 | |
'He was not an action hero. | 0:30:27 | 0:30:29 | |
'He had a limp, he walked with a cane.' | 0:30:29 | 0:30:32 | |
He had some bumps on him, you know, | 0:30:32 | 0:30:34 | |
which was great for Kenny. | 0:30:34 | 0:30:35 | |
SLURRED: Would you like to have a drink? | 0:30:35 | 0:30:38 | |
YELLING | 0:30:40 | 0:30:42 | |
That's an ugly beard. | 0:30:46 | 0:30:47 | |
Would you like me to part it for you real neatly | 0:30:47 | 0:30:50 | |
with this little derringer? | 0:30:50 | 0:30:51 | |
'He was a reluctant hero, you know?' | 0:30:51 | 0:30:54 | |
He could do it if he had to, | 0:30:54 | 0:30:55 | |
but he'd just as soon turn the corner and get away from it. | 0:30:55 | 0:30:59 | |
Just leave me alone, Mr Stobridge. | 0:30:59 | 0:31:02 | |
I still insist. | 0:31:02 | 0:31:03 | |
'He's the personality of Kenny Rogers' | 0:31:05 | 0:31:08 | |
brought to a character back in the 1800s in the West. | 0:31:08 | 0:31:11 | |
'I'm really good at being myself' | 0:31:11 | 0:31:14 | |
in different clothes. That's all I can do. | 0:31:14 | 0:31:16 | |
CRASHING | 0:31:20 | 0:31:22 | |
GUNSHOTS | 0:31:24 | 0:31:26 | |
'I mean, I was in good physical shape at the time, | 0:31:26 | 0:31:29 | |
'and I did a lot of my own stunts. It was a moment in time,' | 0:31:29 | 0:31:33 | |
and we were just capitalising on everything that came about. | 0:31:33 | 0:31:38 | |
'I remember getting those phone calls after the ratings came in, | 0:31:41 | 0:31:44 | |
'and Ken Kragen, who's a very enthusiastic guy to begin with,' | 0:31:44 | 0:31:48 | |
had a lot to be enthusiastic about. It was through the roof. | 0:31:48 | 0:31:51 | |
'The highest-rated TV movie of all time, at that point.' | 0:31:53 | 0:31:57 | |
'Broke every record, had a share that,' | 0:31:58 | 0:32:01 | |
you know, the Super Bowl gets nowadays. | 0:32:01 | 0:32:04 | |
GUNSHOT | 0:32:04 | 0:32:06 | |
MUSIC STARTS | 0:32:06 | 0:32:07 | |
THEY LAUGH | 0:32:07 | 0:32:09 | |
The Gambler movie was watched by | 0:32:09 | 0:32:11 | |
more than half of all TV viewers in America. | 0:32:11 | 0:32:14 | |
Kenny Rogers cleaned up. | 0:32:14 | 0:32:17 | |
I'm a gambler. | 0:32:17 | 0:32:18 | |
He became a regular fixture on US TV, | 0:32:18 | 0:32:22 | |
with a series of sequels and spin-offs over the next two decades. | 0:32:22 | 0:32:26 | |
# Everyone considered him | 0:32:27 | 0:32:30 | |
# The coward of the county | 0:32:30 | 0:32:32 | |
# He'd never stood one single time | 0:32:34 | 0:32:36 | |
# To prove the county wrong... # | 0:32:36 | 0:32:39 | |
'We would pile success and activity on top of activity.' | 0:32:39 | 0:32:43 | |
We were creating momentum that just carried us right through to | 0:32:43 | 0:32:46 | |
the next project, the next record, the next movie, whatever. | 0:32:46 | 0:32:49 | |
Kenny's 1980 LP Gideon was another bold move. | 0:32:51 | 0:32:55 | |
He approached his old friend from the New Christy Minstrels Kim Carnes | 0:32:55 | 0:32:58 | |
and her husband David Ellingson to write and produce a concept album | 0:32:58 | 0:33:03 | |
about a cowboy looking back on his life. | 0:33:03 | 0:33:06 | |
# Excuse me, ma'am I'd like your daughter's hand | 0:33:06 | 0:33:10 | |
# For the evenin'... # | 0:33:10 | 0:33:11 | |
'This was just...' | 0:33:11 | 0:33:13 | |
"Wow." He's so huge as an artist, | 0:33:13 | 0:33:17 | |
and the fact that we had the opportunity to write ten songs | 0:33:17 | 0:33:20 | |
was just phenomenal. | 0:33:20 | 0:33:22 | |
# ..used to be my neighbour | 0:33:22 | 0:33:24 | |
# And he'd never slept a day in his life... # | 0:33:24 | 0:33:26 | |
'His voice and his phrasing' | 0:33:26 | 0:33:28 | |
was the inspiration for how we wrote every song. | 0:33:28 | 0:33:32 | |
I had to hear him singing it to know, how would he phrase this? | 0:33:32 | 0:33:38 | |
What would he say? | 0:33:38 | 0:33:39 | |
# Don't fall in love with a dreamer... # | 0:33:39 | 0:33:44 | |
The song Don't Fall In Love With A Dreamer | 0:33:44 | 0:33:46 | |
features Kenny's unique vocal style in a duet with Kim. | 0:33:46 | 0:33:50 | |
# ..just when you think... # | 0:33:50 | 0:33:52 | |
'I had to up my game, because I'm singing with Kenny, | 0:33:52 | 0:33:55 | |
'I don't want to screw up!' | 0:33:55 | 0:33:57 | |
What you get doing that live is the adrenaline. | 0:33:57 | 0:34:00 | |
And I can hear the adrenaline in our vocals to this day. | 0:34:00 | 0:34:03 | |
# Don't fall in love | 0:34:03 | 0:34:07 | |
# With a dreamer | 0:34:07 | 0:34:10 | |
# Cos he'll break you every time | 0:34:10 | 0:34:17 | |
# Oh, no, no | 0:34:17 | 0:34:20 | |
# Just hold on | 0:34:20 | 0:34:23 | |
# Before we say goodbye. # | 0:34:23 | 0:34:28 | |
'Kim and I sound good together' | 0:34:28 | 0:34:30 | |
cos we sound like we're haemorrhaging. | 0:34:30 | 0:34:32 | |
Both of us were just full-out. | 0:34:32 | 0:34:34 | |
I don't like that description! | 0:34:34 | 0:34:36 | |
'He's definitely got a really distinctive voice. | 0:34:40 | 0:34:43 | |
'You hear him on the radio and there's no mistaking who it is.' | 0:34:43 | 0:34:47 | |
# And if you knew what I was thinkin', girl | 0:34:47 | 0:34:51 | |
# I'd turn around now... # | 0:34:51 | 0:34:53 | |
'It is an astounding instrument.' | 0:34:53 | 0:34:56 | |
It has all of that furry, rough, gruff quality, | 0:34:56 | 0:35:01 | |
and yet it has enormous range. | 0:35:01 | 0:35:04 | |
# Don't fall in love with a dreamer... # | 0:35:04 | 0:35:09 | |
'There's something very special' | 0:35:09 | 0:35:11 | |
about that voice, and that's what's made him a superstar. | 0:35:11 | 0:35:14 | |
'What really set his career off was this thing where' | 0:35:14 | 0:35:17 | |
his voice would go huh-huh-huh-huh-huh. | 0:35:17 | 0:35:20 | |
And I don't know how he got that, or learned it, or why he did it. | 0:35:20 | 0:35:24 | |
'It became like a trademark for him, you know?' | 0:35:24 | 0:35:27 | |
# Good-bye-y-y-y-y-y-y. # | 0:35:27 | 0:35:32 | |
Their gravelly-voiced duet went top ten | 0:35:32 | 0:35:35 | |
in the US Billboard and Country charts. | 0:35:35 | 0:35:37 | |
But as a new decade dawned, Kenny was beginning to feel constrained | 0:35:37 | 0:35:42 | |
by his country-oriented repertoire. | 0:35:42 | 0:35:44 | |
He now took the biggest gamble of his musical career. | 0:35:44 | 0:35:48 | |
'The problem was,' | 0:35:48 | 0:35:49 | |
Larry and I were cutting the same songs over again, | 0:35:49 | 0:35:53 | |
just new titles. | 0:35:53 | 0:35:55 | |
And I wanted to kind of step out. I remembered the Ray Charles album | 0:35:55 | 0:35:59 | |
where he sang country songs R&B, | 0:35:59 | 0:36:02 | |
and I said, "What if I take R&B songs and sing 'em country?" | 0:36:02 | 0:36:06 | |
So that's when I called Lionel, | 0:36:06 | 0:36:09 | |
and I said, "Lionel, I'd love for you to write me a song.' | 0:36:09 | 0:36:12 | |
# Sail on, honey... # | 0:36:12 | 0:36:18 | |
Lionel Richie was songwriter and frontman | 0:36:18 | 0:36:20 | |
with the funk-soul band The Commodores, | 0:36:20 | 0:36:22 | |
but for a country singer like Kenny, | 0:36:22 | 0:36:25 | |
working with a soul star like Lionel had its risks. | 0:36:25 | 0:36:27 | |
Lionel presented him with the bare bones of a new tune. | 0:36:31 | 0:36:34 | |
'The Commodores, you don't finish the song, | 0:36:34 | 0:36:36 | |
'because, you know, you bring in' | 0:36:36 | 0:36:38 | |
ten songs, you go "da da da" - "No, next." | 0:36:38 | 0:36:41 | |
"Da da da..." "Next." | 0:36:41 | 0:36:42 | |
So you don't finish it, | 0:36:42 | 0:36:44 | |
otherwise you just wasted a lot of time | 0:36:44 | 0:36:46 | |
writing a song they're going to throw away. | 0:36:46 | 0:36:48 | |
So he comes over and I was backstage, | 0:36:48 | 0:36:50 | |
I was working at the Riviera Hotel in Las Vegas. | 0:36:50 | 0:36:53 | |
And he sits down and he had a little upright piano. | 0:36:53 | 0:36:55 | |
And he plays, # Lady... | 0:36:55 | 0:36:57 | |
# I'm your knight in shining armour and I love you | 0:36:57 | 0:37:00 | |
# Ba ba ba ba ba ba | 0:37:00 | 0:37:03 | |
# Ba ba ba... # | 0:37:03 | 0:37:04 | |
"Do you like that song?" | 0:37:04 | 0:37:06 | |
I said, "Actually, I like it, I like the way it sounds." | 0:37:06 | 0:37:09 | |
So he went back home and he wrote the first verse. | 0:37:09 | 0:37:11 | |
# Lady | 0:37:11 | 0:37:14 | |
# I'm your knight in shining armour | 0:37:15 | 0:37:19 | |
# And I love you | 0:37:19 | 0:37:21 | |
# You have made me what I am | 0:37:22 | 0:37:25 | |
# And I am yours... # | 0:37:25 | 0:37:30 | |
With Kenny's seal of approval, | 0:37:30 | 0:37:32 | |
they recorded the song a week later at his LA studio. | 0:37:32 | 0:37:35 | |
# My love | 0:37:35 | 0:37:38 | |
# There's so many ways I want to say | 0:37:38 | 0:37:42 | |
# I love you... # | 0:37:42 | 0:37:44 | |
'I'm singing the first verse' | 0:37:44 | 0:37:45 | |
and I realise there is no second verse! | 0:37:45 | 0:37:48 | |
So I turned to some people and I said, "Where's Lionel?" | 0:37:48 | 0:37:52 | |
I went to the bathroom to finish the second verse. | 0:37:52 | 0:37:55 | |
Cos I didn't have it! | 0:37:55 | 0:37:57 | |
He has to have that kind of pressure. | 0:37:57 | 0:37:59 | |
He has to do it now, or it doesn't work. | 0:37:59 | 0:38:01 | |
It's all true. I would love to tell you... | 0:38:01 | 0:38:04 | |
I didn't go TO the bathroom, I went to the bathroom. | 0:38:04 | 0:38:08 | |
To write the second verse to the song. | 0:38:08 | 0:38:11 | |
# Lady | 0:38:11 | 0:38:14 | |
# For so many years I thought | 0:38:14 | 0:38:17 | |
# I'd never find you... # | 0:38:17 | 0:38:20 | |
The session resulted in both of them | 0:38:20 | 0:38:22 | |
learning different ways of doing things. | 0:38:22 | 0:38:25 | |
'Kenny was used to going and doing an album in three or four days.' | 0:38:25 | 0:38:28 | |
With Lionel, he would sing a note | 0:38:28 | 0:38:31 | |
and he'd stop you and say, "Let's redo that note." | 0:38:31 | 0:38:34 | |
I did it the Commodore way. | 0:38:34 | 0:38:35 | |
"OK, Kenny, you were a little sharp on that. Start again. | 0:38:35 | 0:38:38 | |
Kenny couldn't believe it. | 0:38:38 | 0:38:39 | |
I mean, it was not the way Kenny was used to recording. | 0:38:39 | 0:38:42 | |
It was a whole different approach. | 0:38:42 | 0:38:44 | |
He said, "What are you stopping for?" | 0:38:44 | 0:38:46 | |
I said, "Your voice is cracking." | 0:38:46 | 0:38:48 | |
He said, "No, no, no, no. I'm trying to crack." | 0:38:48 | 0:38:51 | |
I said, "Explain that to me." | 0:38:51 | 0:38:53 | |
He said, "Lionel, in the pop world, the righter the note, | 0:38:53 | 0:38:57 | |
"the righter it is. In country music, | 0:38:57 | 0:39:00 | |
"the note that's wrong is the right note. | 0:39:00 | 0:39:03 | |
"Why? Because it's believable." | 0:39:03 | 0:39:05 | |
"Thank you, Kenny, and let's go back and finish the song." | 0:39:05 | 0:39:08 | |
# In my eyes | 0:39:08 | 0:39:11 | |
# I see no-one else but you | 0:39:12 | 0:39:16 | |
# There's no other love like our love | 0:39:17 | 0:39:22 | |
# And yeah... # | 0:39:23 | 0:39:26 | |
'The marriage was perfect between artist and song. | 0:39:26 | 0:39:29 | |
'There's a vulnerable side to KR' | 0:39:29 | 0:39:33 | |
that comes out in that song. | 0:39:33 | 0:39:37 | |
Here's a guy who wanted to surrender to the love of his life. | 0:39:37 | 0:39:40 | |
It was magical. | 0:39:40 | 0:39:41 | |
# Lady... # | 0:39:41 | 0:39:44 | |
But would Kenny's punt on a soulful love song | 0:39:44 | 0:39:46 | |
alienate an audience he'd worked hard to establish? | 0:39:46 | 0:39:50 | |
# ..Only love I need... # | 0:39:50 | 0:39:52 | |
The tricky part was, how were the country people | 0:39:52 | 0:39:55 | |
going to feel about it? | 0:39:55 | 0:39:56 | |
Because they were quite uppity about what's country and what isn't. | 0:39:56 | 0:40:00 | |
You were either country or you were pop or you were a rock band. | 0:40:00 | 0:40:04 | |
He took some blows with that, because it became, | 0:40:04 | 0:40:07 | |
"Well, Kenny's not quite country." | 0:40:07 | 0:40:09 | |
# Cos my love... # | 0:40:09 | 0:40:12 | |
'It was a bit of a risk to do it, | 0:40:12 | 0:40:15 | |
'but my goal was to get a bigger audience' | 0:40:15 | 0:40:18 | |
and do something that I felt more qualified to do than other people, | 0:40:18 | 0:40:23 | |
because I'd come through the Bobby Doyle era | 0:40:23 | 0:40:25 | |
and the folk stuff in the first edition. | 0:40:25 | 0:40:28 | |
'It wasn't out of my comfort zone.' | 0:40:28 | 0:40:30 | |
# You're my lady... # | 0:40:30 | 0:40:33 | |
He's one of the few artists that can pull that off. | 0:40:33 | 0:40:36 | |
Usually your audience won't let you do it as an artist. | 0:40:36 | 0:40:39 | |
But for some reason, people just followed him. | 0:40:39 | 0:40:43 | |
The end result was a huge, huge hit record in all genres, | 0:40:43 | 0:40:47 | |
not just R & B, it was a hit record in every area. | 0:40:47 | 0:40:51 | |
To this day, really, one of the biggest of all | 0:40:51 | 0:40:53 | |
Kenny Rogers' records ever. | 0:40:53 | 0:40:55 | |
Kenny and Lionel had created a monster crossover hit | 0:40:57 | 0:41:00 | |
that scored big around the world. | 0:41:00 | 0:41:02 | |
# I'm your knight in shining armour | 0:41:02 | 0:41:05 | |
# And I love you... # | 0:41:05 | 0:41:07 | |
The song appeared on Kenny's 1980 Greatest Hits album, | 0:41:08 | 0:41:11 | |
helping it sell over 12 million copies in the US alone. | 0:41:11 | 0:41:14 | |
He could pull any arena he wanted to go to - | 0:41:16 | 0:41:18 | |
going to go to Denver today, San Antonio tomorrow. | 0:41:18 | 0:41:21 | |
Find a venue and then they would take the show, | 0:41:21 | 0:41:23 | |
because everybody knew it was going to be a sell-out. | 0:41:23 | 0:41:25 | |
Seats were selling out in four hours. | 0:41:25 | 0:41:27 | |
It was really a good time for him touring wise and everything. | 0:41:27 | 0:41:31 | |
# Show me a bar | 0:41:31 | 0:41:32 | |
# With a good-looking woman | 0:41:32 | 0:41:35 | |
# Then just get out of my way... # | 0:41:35 | 0:41:37 | |
'We did some of the most incredible production.' | 0:41:37 | 0:41:40 | |
I just loved it. | 0:41:40 | 0:41:41 | |
It was one of those things that we couldn't do | 0:41:41 | 0:41:44 | |
anything wrong at the time. | 0:41:44 | 0:41:45 | |
The period saw Kenny enter the celebrity stratosphere, | 0:41:48 | 0:41:51 | |
living the good life with Marianne | 0:41:51 | 0:41:53 | |
in their 13 million Bel-Air mansion. | 0:41:53 | 0:41:56 | |
Less than five years earlier, he'd been virtually bankrupt. | 0:41:56 | 0:41:59 | |
He was an American icon at that point. There was no-one bigger. | 0:42:05 | 0:42:09 | |
Black people, White people, everybody knew him. | 0:42:09 | 0:42:12 | |
He was huge. He was a worldwide bonafide star. | 0:42:12 | 0:42:17 | |
That was really the prime of my career. | 0:42:17 | 0:42:21 | |
It just catapulted me to a whole different stage. | 0:42:21 | 0:42:24 | |
Kenny's hold on his audience now extended way beyond country pop, | 0:42:28 | 0:42:32 | |
and in 1983 he moved in a soft rock direction. | 0:42:32 | 0:42:37 | |
Kenny had this great idea to cover the Bob Seger song | 0:42:37 | 0:42:41 | |
We've Got Tonight. | 0:42:41 | 0:42:43 | |
Then he had another brilliant idea | 0:42:43 | 0:42:45 | |
to get probably one of the hottest girls at the time in the business | 0:42:45 | 0:42:48 | |
Sheena Easton and put the two of them together. | 0:42:48 | 0:42:51 | |
# I've been so lonely... # | 0:42:51 | 0:42:53 | |
Sheena had shot to fame after winning a BBC TV talent competition | 0:42:53 | 0:42:57 | |
and had recorded the Bond theme For Your Eyes Only. | 0:42:57 | 0:43:00 | |
# I've longed for love... # | 0:43:02 | 0:43:04 | |
I loved working with Sheena Easton, but, you know, | 0:43:04 | 0:43:07 | |
when you sing duets with people, you start with the song. | 0:43:07 | 0:43:10 | |
'Then you say, "Who could do this well?"' | 0:43:10 | 0:43:13 | |
I think that's what I've been best at - picking partners. | 0:43:13 | 0:43:17 | |
# So there it is, girl... # | 0:43:17 | 0:43:20 | |
He really new knew how to craft duets. | 0:43:20 | 0:43:22 | |
I would say now, after all the duets I've written in my life, | 0:43:22 | 0:43:24 | |
I go back to that moment. | 0:43:24 | 0:43:26 | |
It was a great learning moment for me. | 0:43:26 | 0:43:29 | |
I was so mesmerised by his talent. | 0:43:29 | 0:43:32 | |
BOTH: # We've got tonight | 0:43:32 | 0:43:36 | |
# Who needs tomorrow? | 0:43:36 | 0:43:40 | |
# We've got tonight, babe... # | 0:43:40 | 0:43:42 | |
We've Got Tonight gave Kenny and Sheena | 0:43:42 | 0:43:45 | |
a worldwide hit single in 1983. | 0:43:45 | 0:43:48 | |
CHEERING AND APPLAUSE | 0:43:52 | 0:43:54 | |
That same year he began working on a new album | 0:43:57 | 0:44:00 | |
written and produced by Bee Gee Barry Gibb. | 0:44:00 | 0:44:03 | |
On it was a tricky song called Islands In The Stream. | 0:44:03 | 0:44:06 | |
What makes his music so contagious - | 0:44:07 | 0:44:09 | |
everything is written on the upbeat instead of the downbeat. | 0:44:09 | 0:44:12 | |
# Baby, when I met... # | 0:44:12 | 0:44:14 | |
And you go, "Oh, my God." It took me for ever to learn that. | 0:44:14 | 0:44:17 | |
So we go in the studio and I'd sing Islands In The Stream for four days. | 0:44:17 | 0:44:22 | |
I finally said, "Barry, I don't even like this song anymore." | 0:44:22 | 0:44:25 | |
He said, "You know what we need? We need Dolly Parton." | 0:44:25 | 0:44:28 | |
I had met Dolly, but I didn't really know her. | 0:44:28 | 0:44:31 | |
My manager says, "I just saw her downstairs." I said, | 0:44:31 | 0:44:34 | |
"Well, go get her." She came in there, that song was never the same | 0:44:34 | 0:44:38 | |
once she started singing it. | 0:44:38 | 0:44:40 | |
# No more will you cry | 0:44:40 | 0:44:42 | |
# Baby, I will hurt you never | 0:44:42 | 0:44:45 | |
BOTH: # We start and end as one | 0:44:45 | 0:44:47 | |
# In love for ever | 0:44:47 | 0:44:49 | |
# We can ride it together Ah-hah | 0:44:49 | 0:44:53 | |
# Making love with each other Ah-hah | 0:44:53 | 0:44:57 | |
# Islands in the stream | 0:44:57 | 0:44:59 | |
# That is what we are | 0:44:59 | 0:45:02 | |
# No-one in... # | 0:45:02 | 0:45:03 | |
Excuse me, Kenny. | 0:45:03 | 0:45:04 | |
# How can we be wrong? | 0:45:04 | 0:45:06 | |
# Sail away with me | 0:45:06 | 0:45:08 | |
# To another world | 0:45:08 | 0:45:11 | |
# And we rely on each other Ah-hah | 0:45:11 | 0:45:15 | |
# From one lover to another Ah-hah... # | 0:45:15 | 0:45:20 | |
I think Islands In The Stream is one of the most brilliant records ever. | 0:45:20 | 0:45:24 | |
There's a hook and then there's another hook. | 0:45:24 | 0:45:26 | |
So just when you think... | 0:45:26 | 0:45:27 | |
Cos you can sing along with the pre-hook, cos it sounds like a hook, | 0:45:27 | 0:45:30 | |
then it goes into the hook and it's even better than the pre-hook. | 0:45:30 | 0:45:33 | |
Islands In The Stream is a great, great record. | 0:45:34 | 0:45:37 | |
It's a magic moment in pop music. | 0:45:38 | 0:45:41 | |
A perfectly crafted duet. | 0:45:41 | 0:45:43 | |
Kenny and Dolly together are electrifying. | 0:45:43 | 0:45:46 | |
BOTH: # Sail away with me | 0:45:46 | 0:45:48 | |
# To another world... # | 0:45:48 | 0:45:50 | |
As great a singer as he is, | 0:45:50 | 0:45:51 | |
there's nothing like another great singer to make you really great. | 0:45:51 | 0:45:55 | |
'I think everybody sings better on duets.' | 0:45:55 | 0:45:58 | |
You know, I'll sing something and Dolly or Dotty | 0:45:58 | 0:46:02 | |
or Kim Carnes or Sheena Easton will something else, and I'll go, | 0:46:02 | 0:46:07 | |
"Wait, if you're going to do that, let me do this," | 0:46:07 | 0:46:10 | |
cos you don't want to suffer by comparison. | 0:46:10 | 0:46:12 | |
I think you grow exponentially when you sing duets with people. | 0:46:12 | 0:46:17 | |
In a career full of successful duets, | 0:46:18 | 0:46:20 | |
this one topped the lot. | 0:46:20 | 0:46:22 | |
Selling over 2 million copies in the US alone | 0:46:22 | 0:46:25 | |
and going top ten around the globe, | 0:46:25 | 0:46:28 | |
Islands In The Stream was the ultimate musical melding of voices | 0:46:28 | 0:46:31 | |
from country music's biggest stars. | 0:46:31 | 0:46:33 | |
For ever linked by the song, Kenny and Dolly's rapport | 0:46:36 | 0:46:39 | |
captured the record buying public's imagination. | 0:46:39 | 0:46:43 | |
BOTH: # From one lover to another Ah-hah | 0:46:43 | 0:46:46 | |
# Whoa, won't you sail? | 0:46:48 | 0:46:50 | |
KENNY: # Sail away, sail away | 0:46:50 | 0:46:52 | |
# Sail away with me. # | 0:46:52 | 0:46:55 | |
Yay, Kenny! | 0:46:55 | 0:46:57 | |
In 1985, Kenny became involved in a musical charity project | 0:46:57 | 0:47:01 | |
that was to go down in history. | 0:47:01 | 0:47:03 | |
In response to the horrific famine in Ethiopia, | 0:47:05 | 0:47:08 | |
British musicians founded Band Aid to raise money for relief efforts. | 0:47:08 | 0:47:12 | |
In the States, Harry Belafonte wanted | 0:47:14 | 0:47:17 | |
the US music industry to do the same. | 0:47:17 | 0:47:19 | |
Ken Kragen was asked to pull it together. | 0:47:19 | 0:47:22 | |
# We can't go on | 0:47:22 | 0:47:23 | |
# Pretending day by day | 0:47:25 | 0:47:27 | |
Kenny was the first phone call I made after | 0:47:27 | 0:47:29 | |
I hung up with Harry Belafonte. | 0:47:29 | 0:47:31 | |
I called Kenny and said, | 0:47:31 | 0:47:32 | |
"Here's what we're doing. Are you in?" He said, "Count me in." | 0:47:32 | 0:47:36 | |
ALL: # We are the world | 0:47:36 | 0:47:39 | |
# We are the children... # | 0:47:39 | 0:47:41 | |
Initial work on the USA For Africa song | 0:47:41 | 0:47:44 | |
was carried out at Kenny's Lion Share studios in LA | 0:47:44 | 0:47:47 | |
and the subsequent star-studded sessions | 0:47:47 | 0:47:50 | |
were produced by Quincy Jones. | 0:47:50 | 0:47:51 | |
'Lionel and Michael Jackson wrote it. What do I bring to this? | 0:47:53 | 0:47:57 | |
'But that group of people was the cream of the cream. | 0:47:57 | 0:48:00 | |
'It was really a humbling experience.' | 0:48:00 | 0:48:04 | |
It was, more importantly, a great cause. | 0:48:04 | 0:48:07 | |
I think we all knew that. | 0:48:07 | 0:48:08 | |
We Are The World became America's fastest selling pop single ever, | 0:48:09 | 0:48:13 | |
with global sales of over 20 million. | 0:48:13 | 0:48:16 | |
Kenny also got involved in further projects, | 0:48:16 | 0:48:19 | |
which raised over 50 million for the charity in its first year alone. | 0:48:19 | 0:48:23 | |
Kenny played a major role in everything we did | 0:48:26 | 0:48:29 | |
subsequent to that - Hands Across America | 0:48:29 | 0:48:32 | |
and every project, Kenny was always there, | 0:48:32 | 0:48:35 | |
always willing, always generous and always cared about it. | 0:48:35 | 0:48:39 | |
His philanthropy perhaps stemmed | 0:48:39 | 0:48:41 | |
from his own poor upbringing in Texas. | 0:48:41 | 0:48:43 | |
Despite fame and fortune, he never forgot his roots. | 0:48:43 | 0:48:46 | |
He had fought his way, through hard work and talent, | 0:48:49 | 0:48:53 | |
out of poverty into a success. | 0:48:53 | 0:48:56 | |
Not only to succeed, but to live at a pretty high, | 0:48:56 | 0:49:00 | |
"I've made it" kind of life. | 0:49:00 | 0:49:01 | |
MUSIC: The Pride Is Back by Kenny Rogers with Nickie Ryder | 0:49:01 | 0:49:04 | |
With mega-stardom, Kenny gained the freedom | 0:49:06 | 0:49:08 | |
to explore and master interests beyond music, | 0:49:08 | 0:49:12 | |
always with the drive to be the best at everything he turned his hand to. | 0:49:12 | 0:49:16 | |
Constant touring was the route to a major passion | 0:49:18 | 0:49:21 | |
for the challenge-hungry Rogers. | 0:49:21 | 0:49:24 | |
I took a picture and someone said, "Boy, you're a great photographer." | 0:49:24 | 0:49:27 | |
I said, "I'm not a great photographer, | 0:49:27 | 0:49:29 | |
"but I go to great places." | 0:49:29 | 0:49:32 | |
I realised that there's an opportunity here | 0:49:32 | 0:49:35 | |
for me to see how good I could get at photography. | 0:49:35 | 0:49:38 | |
Kenny hired renowned photographer John Sexton | 0:49:39 | 0:49:42 | |
to help him develop his talent. | 0:49:42 | 0:49:44 | |
Kenny was obsessed with trying to do the best that he possibly | 0:49:46 | 0:49:50 | |
could at that time. | 0:49:50 | 0:49:52 | |
He was also a great student, because his desire was always | 0:49:52 | 0:49:56 | |
to do better tomorrow than he had done the day before. | 0:49:56 | 0:49:59 | |
I just try to be great at everything. | 0:49:59 | 0:50:01 | |
I can't, but I just obsessed with it. I wanted to be really good at it. | 0:50:01 | 0:50:06 | |
With Sexton's guidance, Kenny fanatically set about | 0:50:06 | 0:50:09 | |
improving his skills, even when he was on the road. | 0:50:09 | 0:50:13 | |
He would shoot the shot, do the concert, | 0:50:13 | 0:50:16 | |
fly home to Athens, Georgia, | 0:50:16 | 0:50:18 | |
go in the dark room - not digital, chemicals. | 0:50:18 | 0:50:22 | |
We burned the midnight oil. | 0:50:22 | 0:50:24 | |
We were printing until the wee hours of the morning. | 0:50:24 | 0:50:26 | |
Some of his friends wondered when he would sleep. | 0:50:26 | 0:50:29 | |
By ten o'clock the next morning was a mounted print | 0:50:29 | 0:50:32 | |
of the shot from the day before. | 0:50:32 | 0:50:34 | |
Take it out, show the band, jump on the plane, | 0:50:34 | 0:50:36 | |
do it again in the next city. | 0:50:36 | 0:50:37 | |
He just could keep going and going. It just about killed me. | 0:50:37 | 0:50:40 | |
He never had to sleep. | 0:50:40 | 0:50:42 | |
Having started out as an enthusiastic amateur, | 0:50:43 | 0:50:46 | |
Kenny's dedication to his craft has resulted in a spectacular portfolio. | 0:50:46 | 0:50:51 | |
The best of Kenny's work is very, very well done. | 0:50:53 | 0:50:57 | |
Whether it's working in the landscape | 0:50:57 | 0:50:59 | |
and also working with people. | 0:50:59 | 0:51:02 | |
His portraits, I think, are exceptional. | 0:51:02 | 0:51:06 | |
First of all, I told everyone they'd be in and out in 15 minutes. | 0:51:06 | 0:51:10 | |
My goal was to shoot pictures that showed personality, | 0:51:10 | 0:51:14 | |
that showed people how I saw them. | 0:51:14 | 0:51:17 | |
When Walter Matthau came in, it was raining. | 0:51:17 | 0:51:19 | |
I said, "Just walk right over there and sit down," | 0:51:19 | 0:51:22 | |
cos that is so Walter Matthau to me. | 0:51:22 | 0:51:25 | |
Michael Jackson, 1998. | 0:51:25 | 0:51:26 | |
He was there for eight hours because guys like him and Elvis, | 0:51:26 | 0:51:30 | |
they don't have many people they can chitchat with. | 0:51:30 | 0:51:33 | |
That hang out meant more to me than the picture or anything else, | 0:51:33 | 0:51:37 | |
but he was an incredible guy. | 0:51:37 | 0:51:39 | |
Sammy Davis Jr. | 0:51:39 | 0:51:40 | |
He used to come on stage in Vegas and sing The Gambler with me. | 0:51:42 | 0:51:45 | |
He loved that song. | 0:51:45 | 0:51:47 | |
This is, I think, maybe one of the best photographs | 0:51:47 | 0:51:49 | |
I've ever taken technically. | 0:51:49 | 0:51:52 | |
It's Rachel McLish the body builder. | 0:51:52 | 0:51:54 | |
Kenny's photographic skills continue to earn him recognition | 0:51:56 | 0:51:59 | |
and earlier this year, he was awarded | 0:51:59 | 0:52:01 | |
a prestigious honorary degree | 0:52:01 | 0:52:03 | |
by the American Professional Photographer's Association. | 0:52:03 | 0:52:06 | |
I love taking pictures, I love the respect I've gotten, | 0:52:07 | 0:52:10 | |
and I love what I've accomplished in this period of time. | 0:52:10 | 0:52:14 | |
Through the late-'80s, | 0:52:16 | 0:52:18 | |
Kenny was kept busy with his photography and TV movies. | 0:52:18 | 0:52:21 | |
But musically, he failed to maintain his chart success, | 0:52:21 | 0:52:25 | |
and in 1991, the previously squeaky clean Rogers | 0:52:25 | 0:52:29 | |
was involved in a tabloid-fuelled sex scandal. | 0:52:29 | 0:52:32 | |
MUSIC: Daytime Friends by Kenny Rogers | 0:52:32 | 0:52:35 | |
Some of it was true and I deserved some. I didn't deserve some. | 0:52:35 | 0:52:38 | |
# But she knows too well there's something going on... # | 0:52:38 | 0:52:42 | |
It was more embarrassing than painful, | 0:52:42 | 0:52:45 | |
cos you don't get a chance to defend yourself, | 0:52:45 | 0:52:47 | |
cos then you print your defence of it, | 0:52:47 | 0:52:50 | |
which was just compounding the problem. | 0:52:50 | 0:52:52 | |
It's hard when you have kids and the wife stays home | 0:52:52 | 0:52:55 | |
and you're on the road. | 0:52:55 | 0:52:56 | |
He had resisted all that for many, many years, | 0:52:56 | 0:52:59 | |
but then things started happening. | 0:52:59 | 0:53:01 | |
He turned 50 and he wanted validation that he was still sexy. | 0:53:01 | 0:53:06 | |
I felt, as I look back at it, that he really had, sort of, | 0:53:06 | 0:53:09 | |
a midlife crisis - a true midlife crisis. | 0:53:09 | 0:53:11 | |
In 1993, Kenny's crisis led to the break-up | 0:53:14 | 0:53:17 | |
of his 16-year marriage to Marianne, | 0:53:17 | 0:53:20 | |
signalling the end of a sustained run of superstardom. | 0:53:20 | 0:53:23 | |
But a large, devoted fan base stuck with him | 0:53:24 | 0:53:27 | |
and although hit records were rare, | 0:53:27 | 0:53:29 | |
his tours and Christmas shows were consistent crowd pleasers. | 0:53:29 | 0:53:32 | |
In 1997, Kenny married his fifth wife, Wanda. | 0:53:35 | 0:53:39 | |
With his past failings having being made so public, | 0:53:39 | 0:53:43 | |
Kenny has been determined to make their relationship work. | 0:53:43 | 0:53:46 | |
You know, fame is one of those things that's a double-edged sword. | 0:53:46 | 0:53:49 | |
It's sometimes a fine line between being driven and being selfish. | 0:53:49 | 0:53:55 | |
I think that at some times I may have been selfish | 0:53:55 | 0:53:58 | |
with my family before, but I won't do that again. | 0:53:58 | 0:54:01 | |
The arrival of twin sons Justin and Jordan in 2004 | 0:54:02 | 0:54:06 | |
arguably presented a 65-year-old Kenny | 0:54:06 | 0:54:10 | |
with the biggest challenge of his life. | 0:54:10 | 0:54:12 | |
It also marked a period of happiness and stability. | 0:54:12 | 0:54:15 | |
I just want to be here long enough to teach them some of my values, | 0:54:16 | 0:54:20 | |
my mom's values and some of my dad's sense of humour. | 0:54:20 | 0:54:23 | |
-Four and a half. -Five! | 0:54:24 | 0:54:26 | |
His temperament is just very even keel. | 0:54:26 | 0:54:29 | |
Kenny never gets frustrated, he never gets angry. | 0:54:29 | 0:54:32 | |
He says it's a choice. You wake up and you're happy. | 0:54:32 | 0:54:36 | |
I think that carries over into how he makes other people feel. | 0:54:36 | 0:54:39 | |
The happy, feel-good factor continues to be a major part | 0:54:40 | 0:54:43 | |
of Rogers' live appeal. And as his hugely successful set | 0:54:43 | 0:54:46 | |
at 2013's Glastonbury festival proved, | 0:54:46 | 0:54:49 | |
he's now viewed as a bonafide American icon. | 0:54:49 | 0:54:53 | |
# Everyone considered him | 0:54:53 | 0:54:55 | |
# The coward of the county... # | 0:54:55 | 0:54:58 | |
There was such a diverse bunch of people in the audience. | 0:54:58 | 0:55:01 | |
Glastonbury - that was the highlight of our career. | 0:55:03 | 0:55:05 | |
# Well, I just called... # | 0:55:08 | 0:55:09 | |
Just seas of people as far as you could see | 0:55:09 | 0:55:11 | |
and they seemed to sing along and everybody had a great time. It was good. | 0:55:11 | 0:55:14 | |
That was an incredible experience and | 0:55:16 | 0:55:18 | |
I was particularly happy with it. | 0:55:18 | 0:55:20 | |
I knew that was going to be unique. | 0:55:20 | 0:55:24 | |
# You picked a fine time to leave me Lucille... # | 0:55:24 | 0:55:31 | |
CROWD CHEERS | 0:55:33 | 0:55:36 | |
Back in the US that same year, Kenny Rogers' iconic status was | 0:55:36 | 0:55:40 | |
confirmed when he was finally inducted into the Country Music Hall Of Fame. | 0:55:40 | 0:55:44 | |
And with Kenny's live shows still packing them in, | 0:55:44 | 0:55:46 | |
he's always ready to meet his legions of fans. | 0:55:46 | 0:55:49 | |
-Thanks, guys. -Thank you so much. | 0:55:51 | 0:55:53 | |
It's a pleasure to finally meet you. | 0:55:54 | 0:55:57 | |
'He recognises the fact that this is a big deal for someone to | 0:55:57 | 0:56:00 | |
'meet him.' | 0:56:00 | 0:56:02 | |
They make their whole year or something, you know? | 0:56:02 | 0:56:05 | |
That loyalty is most apparent in the people | 0:56:05 | 0:56:07 | |
he surrounds himself with on tour. | 0:56:07 | 0:56:09 | |
'Most of that band and the road crew, I mean,' | 0:56:12 | 0:56:14 | |
we were dealing with those same guys in the 1970s. | 0:56:14 | 0:56:17 | |
'He treats people well and you want to be with him | 0:56:17 | 0:56:20 | |
'and you want to work with him.' | 0:56:20 | 0:56:22 | |
'He recognises we have family just like he has.' | 0:56:22 | 0:56:25 | |
He's watched all our kids grow up, he knows all their names, | 0:56:25 | 0:56:28 | |
you know, all the kids hang out together. | 0:56:28 | 0:56:30 | |
You're singing. | 0:56:30 | 0:56:31 | |
'My guys are very special. | 0:56:31 | 0:56:33 | |
'They're like my family, you know,' | 0:56:33 | 0:56:35 | |
and I really feel for them. | 0:56:35 | 0:56:36 | |
When something goes wrong with one of them, I feel their pain. | 0:56:36 | 0:56:39 | |
# You travel the world with a six-piece band | 0:56:39 | 0:56:43 | |
# That does for you... # | 0:56:43 | 0:56:45 | |
'They protect me. | 0:56:45 | 0:56:47 | |
'We get in that room and start singing, they're right there.' | 0:56:47 | 0:56:50 | |
# Nobody sings a love song quite like you. # | 0:56:51 | 0:56:56 | |
People always ask me, | 0:56:57 | 0:56:58 | |
"How long do you think he's going to perform?" | 0:56:58 | 0:57:01 | |
And I said, "I think he'd admit that he loves that | 0:57:01 | 0:57:04 | |
"hour and 20 minutes on stage and he would miss that." | 0:57:04 | 0:57:07 | |
It is now...or never... | 0:57:07 | 0:57:11 | |
'I'm at that great space where I can work as much as I want to work, | 0:57:11 | 0:57:14 | |
'but I don't have to work. | 0:57:14 | 0:57:16 | |
'Money isn't what drives me,' | 0:57:16 | 0:57:18 | |
the relationship with the audience is what drives me. | 0:57:18 | 0:57:21 | |
'He is an entertainer, I think, in the true sense of the word.' | 0:57:21 | 0:57:25 | |
He's the whole package and he always was. | 0:57:25 | 0:57:28 | |
# Tender love is fine... # | 0:57:28 | 0:57:30 | |
For over half a century, Kenny has kept us entertained with | 0:57:30 | 0:57:33 | |
some of the best-known and best-loved music ever recorded. | 0:57:33 | 0:57:37 | |
With a career spanning everything from jazz to folk, | 0:57:37 | 0:57:40 | |
'60s psychedelia to R&B, perhaps his real legacy lies in the fact that | 0:57:40 | 0:57:45 | |
he introduced a pop sensibility to country music that was trailblazing. | 0:57:45 | 0:57:50 | |
By opening that door and taking that risk, | 0:57:51 | 0:57:54 | |
he opened the door for everybody else to come through. | 0:57:54 | 0:57:57 | |
He brought a new audience to country | 0:57:57 | 0:57:59 | |
and all of Nashville benefitted from that. | 0:57:59 | 0:58:02 | |
He gave country class. | 0:58:02 | 0:58:04 | |
# I can't live without you if the love is gone...# | 0:58:04 | 0:58:07 | |
You can't teach star power to artists and those that really, | 0:58:07 | 0:58:11 | |
truly have it...live on. | 0:58:11 | 0:58:14 | |
'You don't think that what music is for me, is my purpose. | 0:58:16 | 0:58:21 | |
'I go out there and I get to do what I do and people make me | 0:58:21 | 0:58:24 | |
'feel good in return for that,' | 0:58:24 | 0:58:26 | |
and success is no reason to quit. | 0:58:26 | 0:58:29 | |
You know, it's a great reason to keep going on. | 0:58:29 | 0:58:32 | |
# Islands in the stream That is what we are | 0:58:33 | 0:58:38 | |
# No-one in between How can we be wrong? | 0:58:38 | 0:58:41 | |
# Sail away with me To another world | 0:58:41 | 0:58:45 | |
# And we rely on each other Uh huh | 0:58:45 | 0:58:48 | |
# From one lover to another Uh huh | 0:58:48 | 0:58:53 | |
# Sail away Sail away with me. # | 0:58:56 | 0:59:00 |