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Now on BBC News, all the latest business news live from Singapore. | :00:00. | :00:15. | |
Indonesia is a nation in shock after the first terrorist attack in | :00:16. | :00:23. | |
Jakarta for six years. Led by China, it is a big weekend for the Asia | :00:24. | :00:33. | |
infrastructure investment bank. Good morning. Glad you could join us | :00:34. | :00:45. | |
for Asia Business Report. We start with Indonesia and South East | :00:46. | :00:47. | |
Asia's largest economy is counting the cost of shock attacks which | :00:48. | :00:51. | |
rocked the capital, Jakarta, yesterday. Seven people were killed, | :00:52. | :00:56. | |
including five attackers, and 20 were injured in a gun and bomb | :00:57. | :01:03. | |
assault in the heart of an area popular with locals and foreigners. | :01:04. | :01:07. | |
How much damage will these developments do to the country's | :01:08. | :01:11. | |
already weakening economy? We're joined IR business reporter. And the | :01:12. | :01:17. | |
head of equity strategy. Thank you for joining us. The attacker was | :01:18. | :01:25. | |
jury is still out whether this will and for the rupiah currency, | :01:26. | :01:31. | |
jury is still out whether this will have an impact on the Indonesia | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
economy. That's right. The stock market fell 2% immediately after the | :01:36. | :01:38. | |
attack, but somewhat recovered afterwards, and only surplus 5% at | :01:39. | :01:45. | |
the end of the day. That has been similar to previous attacks | :01:46. | :01:50. | |
including after the 2009 attack in Jakarta. The bigger impact will be | :01:51. | :01:56. | |
on the actual economy, for example the impact on tourism. We have heard | :01:57. | :02:00. | |
from some of the region's large carriers saying that passengers can | :02:01. | :02:06. | |
now change their flights to and from Jakarta without having | :02:07. | :02:10. | |
fee, indicating that some people are reconsidering their trips to | :02:11. | :02:15. | |
Jakarta. Tourism accounts for 9% of the country's economy, which is not | :02:16. | :02:20. | |
as big as compared to Thailand, but the government has been trying to | :02:21. | :02:23. | |
increase that. This attack would be a big blow to that. You lived in the | :02:24. | :02:32. | |
Indonesian capital during the turbulent times of the late 1990s, | :02:33. | :02:37. | |
the Asian financial crisis and the violence that took place during that | :02:38. | :02:41. | |
period. Do you think this attack on Thursday will have an impact on the | :02:42. | :02:46. | |
economy? I lived there in the 1990s, and there would earnings in those | :02:47. | :02:53. | |
days. All kinds of things going on. At that point in time, I was | :02:54. | :02:58. | |
surprised by the resilience of the Indonesian people and its economy. | :02:59. | :03:01. | |
It went through a massive downturn and it was a different story. But | :03:02. | :03:06. | |
people were able to get by and make their way through that turbulent | :03:07. | :03:13. | |
time. My initial idea is that even though this is a tragic event, | :03:14. | :03:16. | |
especially for the families involved, for the broader economy, I | :03:17. | :03:20. | |
think this is a temporary issue. That is what the bank is suggesting | :03:21. | :03:28. | |
on its website. It is a challenging time for the president. To calm | :03:29. | :03:37. | |
investors' fears, but only around these terrorist attacks but also the | :03:38. | :03:41. | |
economy. You could call it a test of the administration among investors, | :03:42. | :03:49. | |
because Widodo was elected with the hope he could address issues like | :03:50. | :03:54. | |
the economy and terrorism. Critics could argue this is yet another | :03:55. | :03:58. | |
example that the president has not been able to address those issues. | :03:59. | :04:03. | |
Widodo has not really lived up to expectations. What | :04:04. | :04:09. | |
clients right now who are asking questions of what they should do | :04:10. | :04:12. | |
with their Indonesian assets? It is true that the expectations they came | :04:13. | :04:17. | |
straight after it is election were very high, but I'm not sure we can | :04:18. | :04:27. | |
blame him for this, but they need to spend more money. We see that is | :04:28. | :04:32. | |
slowly taking place. It would be nice if it was faster, but even if | :04:33. | :04:36. | |
the money is there in Indonesia, getting things off the | :04:37. | :04:42. | |
ground takes a bit of time. What about the cut in interest rates by | :04:43. | :04:50. | |
the central bank? Was this able to boost the economy from where it is | :04:51. | :04:56. | |
at the moment? It should be supportive. The rates in Indonesia | :04:57. | :05:04. | |
have been high. There will be cuts coming through in the second quarter | :05:05. | :05:11. | |
of this year. The deficit is there, that it is not alarming. The economy | :05:12. | :05:20. | |
seems to be OK, and hopefully the impact of that fiscal spending will | :05:21. | :05:23. | |
come through. We think a rate cut was appropriate, and the central | :05:24. | :05:28. | |
bank thought the terror attacks were probably a temporary thing. You have | :05:29. | :05:33. | |
attacks in Jakarta including the potential for Islamic State threads | :05:34. | :05:37. | |
in the region, as well as the other risks, especially lower oil prices | :05:38. | :05:42. | |
and concerns about the Chinese economy. That is the sentiment right | :05:43. | :05:50. | |
now? Are investors starting to pull out their investors from emerging | :05:51. | :05:53. | |
market economies in the region? I have not seen data yet. There are | :05:54. | :06:01. | |
stories going around, but people are nervous and markets are down. That | :06:02. | :06:08. | |
is when redemptions take place. The core of this are the changes to the | :06:09. | :06:16. | |
rate in China. The head of equity strategy of HSBC, what are you | :06:17. | :06:24. | |
telling them? Should they be fully invested in stocks or cash? Through | :06:25. | :06:29. | |
the first part of this year, we will have volatility. With the exchange | :06:30. | :06:37. | |
rate, things will be frontloaded at the beginning of this year. We'll | :06:38. | :06:40. | |
have to deal with some of that volatility. We can equate that to | :06:41. | :06:46. | |
events we cannot forecast like what we have seen in Jakarta. Late in the | :06:47. | :06:52. | |
year, money flows back into markets and that will support some of the | :06:53. | :06:56. | |
equity markets. Are there any particular sectors that stand to | :06:57. | :07:01. | |
benefit in the midst of all of this risk? Benefit is difficult. I would | :07:02. | :07:10. | |
say there are particular sectors which irrespective of what is | :07:11. | :07:12. | |
happening will do well. Some of them are policy related, China related, | :07:13. | :07:19. | |
wind and solar industries with clear policies, the Internet, which is | :07:20. | :07:23. | |
growing in China, but also the Philippines, Indonesia, there is a | :07:24. | :07:30. | |
growing trend. Banks reinvest the money people put in them. It is a | :07:31. | :07:36. | |
growing trend that happens irrespective of what happens with | :07:37. | :07:38. | |
the economy or on the political side. Those themes are something | :07:39. | :07:49. | |
people should look at. Thank you both for your insights. Let's take a | :07:50. | :07:59. | |
look at will rebound in in Asian trade after an eight-day drought | :08:00. | :08:02. | |
that saw it fell to $30 a barrel -- oil. There are worries Iran will add | :08:03. | :08:10. | |
more oil. This is how prices are now trading in Asia. Brent crude | :08:11. | :08:22. | |
currently at $30.82 per barrel. The rebound in oil has given a boost to | :08:23. | :08:27. | |
the Australian oil companies. Running -- man climbing -- one | :08:28. | :08:37. | |
company has climbed 6%. The collapse in oil prices has put pressure on | :08:38. | :08:49. | |
BHP, despite a write-down, they still have plans to invest $1.5 | :08:50. | :08:54. | |
billion in the onshore US assets this financial year. Let's have a | :08:55. | :09:07. | |
quick look at shares. Intel plunging 5% after investors were not | :09:08. | :09:16. | |
impressed at the fourth quarter. They have been looking for growth in | :09:17. | :09:21. | |
the data centre in it to account for the slump in demand for chips used | :09:22. | :09:26. | |
in computers. The Asia infrastructure investment bank | :09:27. | :09:33. | |
ceremony this weekend. We have more in Beijing. China felt it did not | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
have enough clout in the Washington -based institutions like the IMF and | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
World Bank. Clout commensurate with its growing economy. It's now has | :09:44. | :09:49. | |
its own institution in Beijing. China does not have more than 50% of | :09:50. | :09:56. | |
the shares, but clearly, an institution in Beijing with a big | :09:57. | :10:01. | |
save from the Chinese government will give the Chinese love and | :10:02. | :10:09. | |
power. -- Chinese government. If countries come here | :10:10. | :10:14. | |
expand their hydroelectric schemes are road systems, will there be | :10:15. | :10:17. | |
political strings attached to the cash being doled out? Also, will | :10:18. | :10:25. | |
fund is here divert funds from other institutions? There has been a broad | :10:26. | :10:31. | |
welcome to this bank everywhere apart from the government in | :10:32. | :10:35. | |
Washington. Allies of the US government are involved. Thank you | :10:36. | :10:42. | |
for investing in your time with us. Goodbye for now. | :10:43. | :10:45. |