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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Live from London, that's our top story on the 24th of November.

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European governments are wrapping up security spending, so what is the

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cost and how will they pay for it. Also in the programme, the BBC

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learns that VW can cheat official EU pollution test in the same way they

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did in the US. The trading day is under way in Europe. Paris is down

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over 1%. Germany, not far behind. assess white and talk through the

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negative day in Asia. How did the largest businesses

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be here with the inside track on the demands of global businesses

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with Yahoo boss Marissa Meyer is wearing thin, and time is running

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Now what is the cost of keeping Europe safe?

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The Paris terror attacks and the ongoing lockdown in Brussels,

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the capital of Belgium, has prompted countries across Europe to

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The French government has announced a boost

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of $641 million to its security budget at home for next year.

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That's expected to cover the cost of hiring 5000 more police officers

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as well as buying more specialist equipment.

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As a result, the French government has already said it will fail to hit

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The Belgian government has also set aside an additional $427 million

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These funds will help reinforce border checks and put

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And in the UK, Prime Minister David Cameron has outlined plans

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for up to 10,000 troops that could be deployed onto British streets in

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In total the UK plans to spend an additional $18 billion

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Anthony Leather is a senior consultant

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at Frost Sullivan covering Aerospace, Defence and Security.

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Good morning. Just talk us through how significant these numbers are.

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It is easy to look at the amount being spent by governments in Europe

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to combat this threat. How significant are big in a time when

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many defence budgets have been cut? Over the last few years we have seen

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a decline in defence budgets and now that increases following recent

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events. We were always going to see a strong response to events like

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these and the numbers that reported there, the 600 million euros by

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France, 400 million by Belgium and the recent announcements in the UK

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yesterday, is in line to show the public and tissue businesses, to

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instil confidence. Governments are taking this seriously and are

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putting the clap measures in place to these attacks. What will this

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might look like on the ground? How will this be spent and what the

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public see? We are seeing, especially in France and Belgium,

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information that they will make borders more robust, spend money

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there, as well as putting 520 ground troops in and around specific

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places. France has an increasing number of trips on the ground. In

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the UK, through the defence budget we are looking at troops being

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deployed, what we will see over the next few days is police budgets

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being cut. The visible presence on the ground of police might be

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produced and the only way they can continue to keep the levels of

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security there is to be slightly more clever with the budgets they

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have got, the more operationally efficient and invest in technology.

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We have talked before about the day-to-day cost and whether that is

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a hotel bookings down, people not travelling to countries affected by

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events. It is hard to put a number on that, but it strikes me that some

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of this spending is to reassure people. This is a visible sign they

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are trying to do with this problem, to reassure people in the longer

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term that it is safe to go to these countries. Absolutely. In the short

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term we saw a blip on the markets. Investors retained their confidence.

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In the medium term, we are looking at consumer confidence, people going

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out and spending money, especially around Christmas, will continue? The

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government projection of security is critical to boost that and richer

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economies continue to grow. In the long term, there will be continued

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investment to ensure that there are security measures in place. Whether

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they are visible and different levels of troops and people on the

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ground or whether they are more discrete solutions, the investment

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in intelligence services has been reported, cyber security has been

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widely reported, but also less visible presence of security and

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more of the discrete security to keep citizens safe is expected.

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Volkswagen says it has found technical solutions for more than

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90% of its cars in Europe affected by the emissions cheating scandal.

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Its chief executive has described it as 'good news',

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saying the recall process is now financially and technically viable.

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VW is recalling about 8.5 million cars in Europe.

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Alibaba founder, Jack Ma, is reportedly in talks to buy

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a stake in the publisher of Hong Kong's South China Morning Post.

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If confirmed, the investment would be the latest in string of deals

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in news and advertising, adding to Alibaba's growing media empire.

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Both Alibaba and the South China Morning Post have

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New data from Japan shows manufacturing activity climbed to

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Industrial output edged up to 52.8, up from 52.4 in October,

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suggesting Japan's economy returned to growth this quarter.

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The manufacturing index is now the highest it's been since March

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last year, ahead of the increase in sales tax.

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Let's take a look round the world at what's business stories are

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Confirmation of a $160 billion deal coming through. The concern is what

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is known as tax inversion, whether Pfizer will move its headquarters to

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Ireland. The attacks are coming from Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump. We

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know what they are up to so they are being frugal. Especially important

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ahead of an election. Other stories on the life peers. The Jaguar boss

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warning of lower profits this year. He said they were committed

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significantly less than in 2014. It reported a pre-tax loss of ?157

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million. It has also announced large investment in factories around the

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world. Quite interesting. It... That was a big portal that lit up in

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China. But destroyed thousands of Jaguar cars. That is reflected in

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this story. One brief on. The IKEA boss was speaking to Steph on

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breakfast and it is a pretty full interview, to be fair. Staff asking

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her if the company had a band of people playing hide and seek. Steph

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tried, but she didn't get far. The boss said she didn't have experience

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in this market in the UK. I bet she can put shells together really well.

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That must be a prerequisite for the job.

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Shares of troubled Japanese display maker Sharp are on the climb today.

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Rajeshni is in our Asia Business Hub in Singapore following the story.

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What is going on? There are rumours flying today. Shares skyrocketed as

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much as 35% today on a couple of big reports. First, local media said

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that a state fund might invest in the struggling company with its

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Japanese lenders agreed to write off some of its loans. It has been built

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up twice in three years but its banks and the second reported

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floating around is that they are in talks to sell their loss-making unit

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to a government fund which is a unit of an Apple supplier. Sharp is known

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for solar panels and TVs, but is facing competition from cheaper

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rivals in China. They have pulled out North American market. They are

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asking their employees to buy their products in attempts to boost sales.

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If the banks boost some -- forgive some of its debt it will be a huge

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step forward. That boosted markets. You can see a mixed picture

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emerging. That is the close last night in the United States. But look

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at Europe. Germany had some growth numbers out today. The third-quarter

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growth figures. They were not that doesn't. We will talk about those in

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a moment. Growth, .3 of a percent, down from the second quarter. France

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is down more than 1%. And now Michelle Fleury can tell us

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us what will making the headlines in the business world in the

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United States today. Hewlett-Packard will make one last

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appearance when the two companies is split into report combined earnings

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for the last time. HP, which includes the printer and PC business

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is expected to report strong earnings. Should pack of

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enterprise, the services business, could disappoint. Meanwhile, the

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luxury jeweller, Tiffany 's, is due to report glittering numbers were

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reports third quarter earnings. Pay attention to the latest revision to

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US GDP numbers. They will show an annual growth rate of 2.1% in the

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third quarter. Michelle in new workforce. -- new York for us.

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Joining us is Richard Lewis, head of Global Equities at

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GDP down slightly. There are a couple of things in there. This

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influx of refugees which Germany is welcoming is having as positive

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impact on figures because the activity of providing temporary

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housing and food for them is stimulative and that comes through

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in higher government spending. On the downside, there is a slightly

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less strong performance from the German trade machine, which is known

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for churning out traffic figures, but exporter with. It is not too hot

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and not too cold, which is perfect for financial markets. That will not

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cause any concerns for stock markets or bond markets. As Michelle was

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herding, we will get US growth figures, and a thing like that would

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be digested with lots of interest in the decision next month. The Fed

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boss Michael decision is done and dusted. The GDP figures are backward

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looking. It is more about the monthly jobs report and I would not

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expect any data to come out which would derail the intention to raise

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rates this time. A quick word on the Pfizer did. Confirmed after a month

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of speculation. Some concern in the US about this tax inversion. Pfizer

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moving their headquarters to Ireland to pay 12 and a half percent tax

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rather than 35% in the US. This is a hot topic. Five -- Pfizer has been

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paying 20 or 22% tax. That is after allowances. Very few people pay the

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full US tax it. With this tax inversion they could get down to 12%

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were even lower. That is clearly attracting the ire of politicians

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and why not? Having said that, it is built with me that this deal has

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attracted the ire of the markets. The markets have welcomed all these

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days so far with great cheers. This time, the markets have marked the

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shares are down and that is interesting. We will talk more about

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this a little later. For now, thank you.

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What business is used by 98% of the UK's 100 leading companies?

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The boss of BT Global Services will be here to tell us why keeping

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the world's largest companies connected is big business.

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British engineering giant Rolls-Royce is to launch a major

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restructuring programme according to new chief executive Warren East. It

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comes after four profit warnings in just over a year. Simon Jack has the

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He has his work cut out today. He must convince shareholders. An

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enormously important company. Busy prestige engineering company. It

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employs 21,000 people. It accounts for 2% for goods exported from the

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UK. They have had problems. Some of their blockbuster products, their

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aircraft engine is getting old, so that has not been much cash getting

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in. When your cash this is high you get profit warnings. The market does

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not like that. We have had four in the past year. The share price has

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fallen nearly 50% in a year. Today, we are expecting him to give a plan

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to convince shareholders he will take cost. We will not get job loss

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numbers, but he will give them a road map for a more prosperous

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future. The order book is pretty full. It is current sales which are

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disappointing. They have a big ring in show business and that is making

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engines for oil tankers around the world. Demand for them has

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Warren East will layout his plan today. Thank you very much, Simon.

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Rolls-Royce, the engineering firm, keep an eye on that stock today as

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he starts to share his idea with investors. A great story in the

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Guardian. This is news from the boss of British Airways, Willie Walsh

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talking about the cost of the proposed third runway for Heathrow.

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He says the solution to the executor nat costs is ?17.6 billion. He says

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that actually by charging for toll roads around the airport might be

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one way of paying for that expansion. I wonder how that would

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go down with those who live locally who have to deal with the extra

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aircraft, etcetera? The cost of flying by the time you have got to

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the airport and through the new airport and you have paid for your

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new water. It goes on and on, taxes etcetera. Etcetera. Send in your

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thoughts. It is always good to hear from you regarding the stories we're

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covering. You can reach out viate BBC Live

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page. -- via the BBC Live page.

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Brussels is in its third day of lockdown,

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with the city on the highest level of alert over fears of a Paris-style

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The rising cost of keeping European cities safe is now forcing

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governments to make tough decisions about their budgets and a number

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of nations including France are expected to

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30 years ago British Telecom, as it was known then, was sold off by the

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We were talking about the Yahoo boss. Keep your comments coming in

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and we will cover them later. Let us know whether you still use

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yahoo. 30 years ago British Telecom, as it

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was known then, was sold off by the UK government as part of a raft of

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privatisations. The firm has since emerged as a global telecoms giant

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with a pre-tax profit of ?2.6 In order to maintain its growing

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profitability, BT is now focusing on

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global expansion. The Global Services division has customers in

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170 countries and is primarily responsible for managing

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international companies' communication, data and IT networks.

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Its clients include 98% of FTSE 100 companies and 82% of the Fortune

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500. That business is generating increasingly large sums of cash for

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the group. The division made an operating profit of $800 million

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last year, significantly up on the figures for 2014. The man behind

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those cheery numbers is Luis Alvarez. After joining in 1999, he

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rose through the ranks before becoming the Chief Executive of BT

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Global Services in 2012. What is global services and how do

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they work? We use the power of communications to make a better

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world and our role in global services is to help companies or

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governments or global companies to really expand the business and

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become more efficient, using the technology we provide to them. We

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are an extension of their business. This is internet access, security,

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Cloud, computing, mobile services for staff and that sort of things?

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Thing? We replicate what in the way we connect people. We connect their

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offices and their manufacturing centres. They are thousands of

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kilometres away and we do that in a secure environment. Looking at your

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client list, it does sound impressive. 98% of FTSE 100

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companies and 82% of Fortune 500. That's a sizeable chunk, but you

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have strong and able competitors out there and as I was saying to you

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when I met you earlier, when I think of BT, I don't think of innovation,

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pioneering, new, the place to be, I think of old school, been around a

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long time, once a nationalised company? We are in business

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communications and we love to have competition because it forces us to

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be a better company, but at the same time it means every day you need to

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earn the trust of your customers. You touched on the security issue. A

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lot of attention of late on hacking, on cyber threats to businesses and

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you have talked a lot about trying to move into Cloud computing and

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enabling firms to store information in the Cloud so they can access it

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everywhere. What conversations do you have with your clients about

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security to make sure they are not vulnerable to attack? Well, the

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first one is making sure that they are aware that cyber security has to

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be on the agenda. From the CEO to all the people in the company, they

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have to be aware of the risks and how to protect themselves and how to

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protect the assets they have, as well as their customers, they

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operate with them. Cyber security has to be one of the critical

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elements of the discussions a the board level. In terms of the

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response you get, and the concern, for CEOs is it now one of their top

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questions when they are approached by you or they are a current client

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of yours, with regards to how you provide services to them? Well, no

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doubt, I think we do provide the services. We have 2500 people around

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the globe who are able to either make an assessment and consult or we

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are able to run the services in the cyber environment. Yeah, it is a

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growing line of business. You call yourselves a intrinsic line of the

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community. Without the services you're able to offer and your

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rivals, you're contributing to the global economy. You are creating

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jobs and that's now an essential part of business? Well, I think we

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are living in a digital transformation. When I was younger

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now you can Justin Trattou listen to the music and streaming while you

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run. For companies they are able to have with Fiat we provide them for

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research and development, we work with Williams Formula One. They have

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200 sensors on their Formula One cars. They are connected to their

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head quarters so they have faster information and you have faster,

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more secure mobile network as a result of our business. Luis Todd

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for coming -- thank you for coming in. We want to mention your comments

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coming in about Yahoo. We were asking you at the start of

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the programme, the boss of Yahoo mid-way through a big turn around

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plan for the K we have been asking you whether you still use Yahoo. I

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Google says one viewer because I have grown up with it. What about

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the yo Ben one. Maybe that tells us more about Andrew's age. He says yo

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Ben tell the boss of Yahoo they are so 1990s, there is cobwebs forming

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on the Yahoo website! One viewer says, "Lack that branding edge anden

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ovation over competitors." My nine-year-old just asked me what is

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Yahoo and that sums up the problem with the firm! This is how to get in

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touch with us. In a moment, we'll take a look

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through the Business Pages but first as part of a new BBC series, we have

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been looking at 30 entrepreneurs One is Brit Morin,

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founder and CEO of Brit and Co. It is difficult to start a company

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when you are so young. I think a lot of people discredit you for not

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having enough experience. I have mentors who is the CEO of Yahoo and

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I'm inspired by women who build large global brands around

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themselves like Oprah and Taylor Swift. I'm Brit Morin and I'm the

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founder of Brit and Co which is a commerce company dedicated to

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helping women and girls to become more creative.

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You can find out more about our 30 under 30 series

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All 30 entrepreneurs talk about their experiences

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What other business stories has the media been taking an interest in?

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Richard Lewis is joining us again to discuss.

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Richard, nice to see you. We have been talking different stories. For

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the internet companies that are making money from ads, not good

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news. Not good news for Yahoo. It takes it from one side to the other,

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doesn't it? Yahoo's core business is funded by display advertising on

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PCs, desk tops. Let's think about what is wrong with that. Well, first

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of all, there is the issue of ad blocking, the trend is towards

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mobile and it is towards social media. The core business of Yahoo is

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not where it needs to be for the 21st century internet.

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Quickly, the billionaire who bought it, he did it on an Amex card, he

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got a load of air miles? Well, that's what the 1% of the 1% do with

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their money, isn't it? Air miles go to money. Richard nice to see you.

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We will see you soon. Have a really good day. We will be here this time

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tomorrow. Thanks for your company. Bye-bye.

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Good morning. It wasn't quite as cold a start. It was frost-free

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