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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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As oil falls below $30 a barrel, global stock markets slump

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Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday

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The big fall in the US has dragged Asian markets lower.

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But is the sell off a correction or the beginning

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Also in the programme, a series of explosions and gunfire

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have rocked the Indonesian capital, Jakarta.

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At least seven people have been killed.

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We'll keep you up to date with the latest.

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And here's how the European trading day has begun.

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Nervousness and volatility the order of the day for investors.

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Website Etsy puts sellers of handcrafted goods in touch

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with buyers around the world in a business model that made it

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we want to know what is the best thing you have ever bought online,

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something original was something that changed your life that you mark

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For anyone hoping for a turnaround on the markets this weeks -

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The Dow Jones lost over 2% in trading yesterday

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The S is now down 10.4 per cent since its recent high in November.

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A fall of more than 10% is known as a "correction".

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It can be a big blow to confidence in the markets,

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and often a signal of bigger falls to come.

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And as we mentioned, oil prices dipped below $30 a barrel

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too, with market watchers now eyeing the $28 mark.

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Nada Tawfik is in New York, and explains how significant

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if we look particularly at oil that has been down roughly 18% this year

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will stop it had a brief rally on Thursday before prices fell again.

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We have heard that this could be an issue throughout 2016. Really

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weighing on the market. On the erratic view we heard was from

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investment strategist in London, Albert Edwards, who has warned the

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world could be heading for a financial crisis as severe as that

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of 2008. He is just one and no that at one analyst but it does show

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continued uncertainty. And amid all that uncertainty comes

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the breaking news we've been A series of bomb blasts

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in the Indonesian capital, Jakarta. There is continuing gunfire

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and reports of further explosions. Police say at least seven

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people have been killed, It's unclear who was

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behind the attack. Sharanjit Leyl is in our

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Asia hub in Singapore. As we have said, on top of the

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nervousness in markets this attack, details still emerging but that will

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serve to add to the nervousness and uncertainty? And it is indeed, most

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of the markets here have started to close and they have almost all

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closed lower. Explosions and gunfire in Jakarta actually hit things like

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the Indonesian market which touched on. The Indonesian central bank

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meeting this week have cut their benchmark interest rate for the

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first time in 11 months, about 7.25%, that was a bit of a surprise,

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certainly earlier than expected. We also sought the Jakarta deposit

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index just about to close for the day. It has actually pared some of

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those losses now and is trading down 1.3%. Bear in mind that in the

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series of many terror attacks Indonesia has suffered the Jakarta

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stock exchange was a target in 2000 when some 15 people died. Over the

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years we saw the attacks in our league in 2002, the most recent was

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in 2009. All of that -- in Bali. That all have an impact on tourism

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and investment. We have seen other markets falling as well, in Japan

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the Nick -- the Nikkei closed two alone, and in Australia down 1.5%.

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The bright spot has been in China with the Shanghai Composite actually

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closing up. And a reminder, there's continuing

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coverage of events in Jakarta We'll have it right here on BBC

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News, but also on our website. And those events adding

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to already nervous markets. US crude prices dipped below

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$30 a barrel yesterday, Brent prices soon followed

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hitting their lowest levels The big question is how

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far they can fall. A move towards the 2004 lows of $28

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a barrel is now in sight. For the first time this year

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the FTSE 100 yesterday managed to see two positive days

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in a row, buoyed by a rebound in oil prices, as well as an improvement

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in the latest Chinese trade But that is not lasted. Down already

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this morning. That fall in oil prices

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dragged on European markets Here's how they've

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opened this morning. We'll get an update on interest

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rates at middday in London today, with the BoE decision and statement

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but no change to rates is expected Sue Noffke, UK Equities Fund Manager

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at Schroders is here. Everyday I feel like am having this

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conversation and we thought there was a bounce back yesterday but now

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we are worse off than Monday. That is interesting, yesterday we saw

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markets starting to rally and the US opened up but really nervousness too

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cold. What caused the change of mood on Wall Street? The Chinese news

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yesterday was really positive. I think it comes down to oil and that

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is the fear about the strength and sustainability. We are having

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growth, it is more volatile and patchy and not high enough to get

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people comfort that the world is in a sustainable place. You talk about

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sustainability and with all of these anecdotal bits of data and

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statistics, everybody trying to piece them together to get an idea

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of the economy. That is notoriously difficult but I suppose it is about

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whether it adds up to a bleak picture and there is not much to get

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excited about. Sadly touched on the Chinese data yesterday that was

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better but it was not really enough to spark any sort of excitement.

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That right, in the US we have seen sufficient growth on the Federal

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the emergency levels from 2009. That the emergency levels from 2009. That

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is good, but more recent data has suggested a little bit of a

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slowdown. The question is, it is this a rolling over or just a pause?

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If you are taking the heat out of the strongest areas of the global

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economy it does not need much else to take its place. In the meantime,

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some companies and industries are doing really well, like US

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car-makers. General Motors upgrading car-makers. General Motors upgrading

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its outlook for this year saying they are having a bumpy time, US car

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sales with a record last year. People buying brand-new gas

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guzzlers. That's right, finance is still cheap and running costs are

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cheaper. Housing as well, that tends to be correlated with the

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availability and Jenas, we have seen that in the US and the UK. Thank you

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very much. We will keep you up-to-date on those markets as the

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A reminder of the news from day progresses.

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A reminder of the news from Indonesia, is series of bomb blasts

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have rocked the capital, followed by gun battles on the streets. Police

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say five suspected attackers are among at least seven people who have

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been killed. They say they are now in control of the situation. The

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blasts were centred around a major shopping and district near the

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international business centre, and UN offices. It is not yet

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which group is behind the assault and the president has urged people

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not to speculate on who might be in bold. TRANSLATION: We give our

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condolences on the occurrence of these events. We condemn actions

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that disrupt public security and disturb the peace of the people and

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so terror. -- sew terror. I have instructed the police chief and the

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coordinating Minister for political, legal and security affairs to pursue

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an arrest for perpetrators and their networks. The people do not need to

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be afraid. And should not be defeated by these terrorist acts.

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And I hope that people remain calm because it is all controllable. So

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you can keep up to date with what is happening, take a look at the page

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on the Germany will release growth figures

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for last year within the hour. Europe's largest economy is expected

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to grow 1.6% over 2015, despite the sharp slowdown in one

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of its major export markets, Two thirds of the growth is expected

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to have come from domestic consumer UK luxury brand Burberry has posted

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a 1% rise in third-quarter for the luxury sector

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but it says the outlook Shares have slumped 43%

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since their peak last February amid the slowdown in China

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where Burberry makes more than a third of its revenues,

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piling the pressure on chief Auto giant General Motors

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is bucking the trend, its shares have risen after the firm

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said it would be more profitable and return more money

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to shareholders. Shares in the biggest US carmaker

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closed 0.6% up after it The World Health Organisation

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is about to announce that that

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started at the end of 2013. The region, though,

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will likely feel the economic Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea,

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lost $1.5 billion last year alone, that's nearly 5%

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of their combined GDP. The UN Development Group,

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says that West Africa may lose That's mostly because of

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between 2014 and 2017. as the stigma of ebola

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persists even if the virus And local people are

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feeling it keenly. In neighbouring Cote d'Ivoire,

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the UN says the poverty rate has risen by at least 0.5 percentage

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points because of Ebola. Manji Cheto, Africa analyst

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at Teneo Intelligence, lovely to see you again, one

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statistic we did not mention is the human cost. Over, I don't know the

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top of my head, how many thousands died. Over 28,000 affected, about

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11,300 deaths. Quite significant if you just think about it being

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technically a peace Time crisis. We talk about the money that still

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terrible times for those countries affected by this and the impact it

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has had at a personal level. But just talking about the situation

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now, of course, brilliant that the world help the organisation says it

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is over but we do not want history to repeat itself and there is work

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to do. One thing we will see this year is we will see a rebound in GDP

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growth in a lot of these countries. As you rightly pointed out there is

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a social factor, livelihoods have been hit significantly. Border

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closures, and household incomes have gone

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down. We had a contraction of 22% in growth in Sierra Leone, we have

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quite similar numbers coming out of Guinea and Liberia. I think we will

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see a positive impact because businesses will reopen so you get

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that sharp rise in GDP growth but beneath those numbers we are really

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looking at very worrying statistics like inflation, we already know that

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there are major food shortages and there

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also in neighbouring countries as well.

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Where do they start more water they need to do? We know already that

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places like Sierra Leone did have a posted bowler recovery plan during

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the peak of the outbreak, they be taking stock of those plans to

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see if they were overestimated underestimating the risk, where

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things start, it. To help their sector, particularly Liberia which

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has been hit significantly, the one thing that people will be keen is

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not to see a repeat of the outbreak. We will see a boost in the

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infrastructure spending particularly. They will be receiving

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some investment, all of these countries, from international donors

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as it were, it is just a question of how that investment money is

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managed? So far we know that about $3.4 billion has been earmarked in a

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post-recovery plan. How it is earmarked will be largely determined

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by the donors, thank you for coming in. It is good to hear what is going

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on. Still to come, shopping in the world for handmade goods.

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The website Etsy has revolutionised how artists

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and designers sell their wares to the world.

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And made itself billions of dollars in the process.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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Tesco has hailed what it calls a "strong Christmas" after its UK

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sales rose 1.3% on a like-for-like basis in the six weeks ending 9

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So cruelly does depend on what you look at, is it just Christmas they

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are focusing on, or are we going to take the figures as a whole? It is a

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very mixed picture, they are still comfortably the biggest retailer.

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Not a bad Christmas, sales up 1.5%, better than pretty much all of the

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rivals and we knew that with a have got gains in market share. If you

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look at the court as a whole, down 1.5%, they have put that down to the

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fact that they did not do lots of cheap promotions which they did last

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year. They have put a stop to that and that hurt them over the quarter

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as a whole. Well what do the market thing? The story for Tesco has been

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one of gradual decline, this is the story over the last six months. In

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the last couple of days, the big four have surprised us, the

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investors really like it. Is this the Christmas where the big four

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fought back against the discounters? Maybe not, because little sales were

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up 18%, it certainly looks like they have managed to stop the rot so as

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you can see, on a day when most other stocks are down, this is a

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chink of light in otherwise a pretty grey day in the market. Just a brief

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word on the wholesale gas and then a trustee prices. Talking about oil

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falling sharply, a big question as to whether that is passed onto

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consumers? There is not a big correlation, but wholesale prices

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have gone down. reiterated that common complaint,

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that when wholesale prices go up, they go up like a rocket and come

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down like a feather and I expect a lot of political action on that.

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Thank you very much. Is that an old analogy? It is new to me. I may have

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been here for too long. Tesco, you can look on our website, all of

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their figures and past performances. Down like a feather and up like a

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rocket. our top story, live, turmoil

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live, on the markets deepens -

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US stocks plunge as crude dips below Now, how to turn a hobby

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into a bit of extra money? It's an online market place for hand

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made arts and crafts that

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allows ordinary people Founded in Brooklyn in 2005,

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the company now has offices across Europe and in

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Melbourne - Australia. Etsy's annual turnover last

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year was around 1 point It charges a small

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listing fee and a 3.5 There are a million and a half

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active sellers on the site - But its not been plain sailing

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for the company following its market listing in New York

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in April last year. The share price has fallen

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over 70 percent since. Nicole Vanderbilt,

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VP of Etsy, is here. good to have you with us in the

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studio. I must admit, it is right up my alley, I like doing crafty stuff

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but you can never sell anything that I make. Nobody would buy it. Just

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where did this idea come from? It was founded in Brooklyn in 2005,

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primary because there was a community of people online doing

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crafting and they wanted a place to sell their goods that was a great

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environment, they recognise the value of craftsmanship. When we talk

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about the niche market, it is one that connects sellers with buyers

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and it allows you to have a market much greater than perhaps your local

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community where you might be able to sell things traditionally and that

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opens things up to a global marketplace but at the same time it

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is up to global competition, I know that Amazon is getting in on the

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act. How do you take on the power of Amazon? So all is take a look at the

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marketplace, and we listen to our sellers. We know that these people

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sell on multiple platforms, and we have been in the business for ten

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years of trying to meet the need of these incredible entrepreneurs and

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so we pride ourselves on keeping that laser focus, which is a new and

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different type of business to what you typically see. You came on board

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to increase its international presence, to oversee that, that is

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quite a big job to take on. When I was booking and researching into how

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the company is doing, some of the things that were coming out were

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reports about concerns, questionable authenticity about some of these

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goods? One report said? Do they actually exist? Magic spells was one

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that was quoted. Do they exist? Is this actually the real Deal or is it

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something that is being peddled in a way that is not really authentic?

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Sure I think these are challenges that any marketplace faces,

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connecting buyers to sellers, our role is to try and make it safe and

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comfortable for both to interact. So we do try and mediate. How do you

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check, you say that you try and manage it all, but with sellers from

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all over the world, how do you make sure that they are authentic? There

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is a combination of different things that you do, there are lots of

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systems, smart algorithms that notice things that

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shop potentially suspicious and we will take a further look at it, but

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in addition, our community is an incredible force, and they will flag

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things that they find worrying and that is another great source of data

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for us. Just a word about the share price, floating, it is currently $6

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99, down about 56%, how closely do you watch that, are you troubled by

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the fact that investors seem to be market and the dead know how they

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will play this and I do know how it will

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Complete. The I cannot really comment on the stock price, we focus

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for the long haul on building a company that reimagines commerce in

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a way that is more fulfilling and lasting and that is about really

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listening to our sellers and what they need and that is what we spend

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all of our terms of what is next, what is the

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next step from your point of view, looking at the International

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expansion of this company? Obviously we know what it is and what it does

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but you need to keep innovating? From my point of view there is a big

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world out there and one of my biggest challenges is to prioritise

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where we spend our time. There are 1.5 million sellers representing

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every country in the world and so we are constantly trying to find

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to find better support through services or throughout product, as a

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company has a whole we continue to innovate as many as we do, we have

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been very focused on mobile, 60% of the traffic comes from mobile, and

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we have been focused on what we call the Etsy economy, rather than just

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connecting buyers and sellers, we have launched Etsy manufacturing, so

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we help people source ways of building their goods, and also we

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have Etsy wholesale, which allows people to get a presence in high

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street stores. Thank you very much for coming in. If you want to get

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involved in any of the conversations that we have with company bosses,

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here is a quick reminder of how you can do that. The businesslike pages

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news. Business live, TV and online, news. Business live, TV and online,

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whenever you need to know. And today because of the events going on and

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developing in Indonesia and in Jakarta, we have set up a special

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live page online for you to take a look at. You can keep across every

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single development. These is now under control of, there were seven

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attack as they say, three have been killed and four had been captured.

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It happened around a major shopping and business district close to the

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embassies and the offices of the United Nations. Yet

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-- let us look at what is happening on the Jakarta live page, and also

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this is a look at the other analysis we have online, do stay with us as

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we keep you right up to date. Full headlines at the top of the power,

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we will see you soon. Can you scroll back, and I will see where I need

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