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Hello, this is business live from the BBC. Running out of steam, the

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mini rally in oil prices comes to a halt despite the cold weather in the

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US. Live from London,

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that's our top story It was nice while it latest for oil

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producers but the spike in the price of oil is quickly fizzling out -

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so where will they stabilise - Adidas ends its sponsorship deal

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with athletics world governing body four years early -

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over the doping scandal sweeping And this is how European markets

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look in the first half We'll discuss the week

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ahead for investors. And can Europe be turned

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into a technology hub to rival for Adidas to pull out

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of its sponsorship deal? Oil on the agenda -

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and crude has taken a steep fall in the last couple of hours,

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reversing its gains from earlier It comes after a volatile week that

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saw oil prices drop to 13-year lows. So - the big question -

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what happens next? Oil has seen dramatic falls over

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the past 18-months - and is now just a fraction

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of its peak in the middle of 2014. Between one and two million barrels

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a day are being pumped over and above what is needed -

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it's all a big battle between producers to try

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to gain market share. The International Energy Agency says

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unless something changes then the oil market could

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drown in over-supply. So what going to happen

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to oil over 2016? Here are a few expert

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predictions from Davos. I could see a price, 30-40 in the

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middle of the year is towards the end of the year could be in the 50s.

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I think the oil price in six months will be at the level of 35- $40 per

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barrel. I think it will be about $35 in six months. There is oversupply,

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very little demand, we all want to blame China for our awards and

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couples, but this is not the only problem. Nobody knows exactly what

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it will be but my protectionist $30. I want to bet at $20, the reason?

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You guys know, the oil price in six months will be $15 per barrel

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because of the extraordinary glut in oil on the planet. It might even go

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to $5 per barrel, maybe even that low. The price of oil in six months?

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Sure it will keep on going down and down. That is safe, notice she

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didn't put a price on that. Richard Mallinson, an analyst

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from Energy Aspects joins us Put your money where your mouth is,

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what do you think? There are visited the different opinions. We think the

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first half of the year oil prices will remain under pressure, not

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necessarily, slower than the scene, necessarily, slower than the scene,

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but not come much higher. The second half of the year we will see a

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recovery, the market is beginning to rebalance. That is not the focus but

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when that becomes clear we can see a rally later in the year. You say the

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first six months six months around 28- $30 per barrel and the last six

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months, when you save recovery come what you mean? Exactly where? We

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think the fourth quarter this year we will see prices above $60 per

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barrel for Brent big recovery. It's interesting when you look at oil

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price and equity market, commodity markets are clearly suffering

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volatility and has been replicated with the equity markets. How much

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can be read into the link between the two? How much will depend on

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what oil does this year for the wider market and economy? I think

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the last few weeks we saw this interesting spiral were oil price is

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headed lower and that pushed equity markets lower but because equity

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markets went down, oil sold off again and that does not really

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follow. If you look at the theory and think about the world, the

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biggest economies are net oil importers, benefiting from lower

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prices and should get a boost. The volatility and uncertainty are bad

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for economic growth but generally lower oil prices are a boost for the

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global economy. We saw that in terms of oil demand last year and we will

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see that continuing to be a benefit. In countries like India, very price

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sensitive customers appointed by soil. As we were hearing from the

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people we talked to in Davos and the other people quoted widely in the

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press, many think much lower, $15 per barrel, one person said $5 per

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barrel, why don't you believe it will go below $28 per barrel? We

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look at the fundamentals, the supply, demand, and when you think

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about the cost of producing oil, yes, there are low-cost regions, but

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the marginal barrels can the last few barrel is the world needs, even

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in a Channel 4 supply market, frock -- come from and higher cost region.

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If we get a series of negative headlines you cannot push prices

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beyond that. We are already beyond prayer pure fundamentals would

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justify. As we saw last week, the further you go, the more attentive

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for people who were putting positions on prices going down to

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take that profits to come out and it pushes it back you. It is the

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conversation we will have again, I'm sure.

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Sportswear giant Adidas has told the athletics' world governing body

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it's to terminate their sponsorship deal four years early,

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The company informed the IAAF of its decision -

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understood to be a direct result of the doping scandal

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the move will result in tens of millions of dollars

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Four senior executives are to leave Twitter as the social

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media giant attempts to halt its tumbling share price.

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Since co-founder Jack Dorsey returned as CEO last year,

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the company's value has fallen by over 35%.

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The shake-up will see the departure of key staff from the company's

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product, media and engineering divisions.

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Federal government offices in the Washington area will be

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closed on Monday after a blizzard over the weekend dumped more than 21

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The government shut down the offices at noon on Friday ahead

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of the storm, and they remained closed Saturday and Sunday.

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Let's take a look round the world at what's

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business stories are making the news.

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Russia must work with Opec. Since quitting the vice president of Luke

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oil saying that Russia needs to work with Opec on cuts in oil supply to

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world markets in a bid to support prices. Opec is always in the

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background in terms of pressure on or off it dealt with the price in

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general. And a quick word on Saudi Arabia. Not one country you might

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expect to be trying to boost tourism but it can be expanded to encourage

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more visitors to the country. Questions already about why you

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would want to go there. Of course, lots of religious tourism but why

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the tourism? Infrastructure is not particularly well for tourists. I

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have been there, and it's not someone that makes ranking to get

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back to given that they threw me out last time. Journalists not

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necessarily welcome, but that's another story. Let's look around the

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world about what business stories are making the news.

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And Japanese shares have risen - despite the latest trade figures

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showing exports falling for a third straight month ...

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Chinese shares have begun the week on a stronger footing,

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extending the gains we saw on Friday after that rally in oil prices.

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Xbox in Japan have dropped from 8% in the year earlier. More than

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expected come in Port set fell by 18%, suggesting the slowdown in

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China is continuing to affect demand. Why is it up by all 1%? One

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of the reasons is hoping the Japanese Government will take action

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after this bad news and late last week the markets surged after media

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reports suggested Japan's Central bank would continue monetary easing.

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All eyes will be on the bank of Japan, which is meeting at the end

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of the week and will be watching to see how it sets out its monetary

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policy. Thank you. We will all be watching that, more from our

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Singapore business bureau later in the week. Shares in Asia gained only

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got a stronger footing, extending begins on Friday after the rally in

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oil price. Shanghai's market up

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just shy of 1 percent, In Europe, those gains on Friday

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came somewhat of a surprise after one of the worst ever

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starts to a trading year, driven by concerns over falling oil

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prices, disappointing earnings, And as we've discussed,

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there'll be a lot of attention paid to where oil prices stabilise,

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and if it recovers back towards $40 a barrel,

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especially with the cold We have the details on what will

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happen on Wall Street today. McDonald's are a suspected child

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lived their fourth-quarter sales but there second largest oil producer,

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Halliburton, is expected to because a steep fall in fourth-quarter

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profits, the surprise given the struggle in the aisle industry the

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reports from other big corporations including Apple and Boeing and the

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Federal Reserve will not get quite as much attention this time but

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investors will be anxious for any region on whether the central bank

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plans to slow its path of interest-rate hikes. Also a host of

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economic data out, most importantly fourth-quarter gross domestic

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product, confirming worries the US economy should -- slow sharply from

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the third quarter. That is quite a busy week.

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Joining us is Richard Fletcher, Business Editor at The Times.

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A very busy week that started unusually the stock market high-end

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oil price high. Did not start long. The first positive Monday this year

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in Asia! The first time we had a Monday Asia stock, without it would

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be a good week but unfortunately it seems to have gone red since then.

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Obviously a busy week. We have the Fed meeting and the central banks

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have been behaving like parents of badly behaved toddlers, they threw a

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suite into the pen but any of us who have had toddlers, the treats that

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last furlong. The tantrum seems to be coming back. It is a very busy

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weekend wheels of GDP, but it will be quite a bumpy ride, despite last

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week's gains. Despite the volatile nature of last week, we did end up

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in London. It's incredible when you think about how the week when. If

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you look at that they are, the excitement did not last long at all,

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is such a equally say where we talk about markets and certainty but what

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is it they want? It's got to be more? The markets love the idea of

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more stimulus last week, we had big hints from Mario Draghi and it looks

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like we'll get hints from Japan at the end of the week and markets have

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been becoming more about the Fed and expect three hikes from the Fed this

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year, whereas the Fed made it as clear as they ever make anything,

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lots of hints, it would be for this year. It seems the markets want more

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stimulus but is free money has to end at some point. We keep being

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told that, don't we? Thank you. You will be back shortly to talk us

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through some of the other stories out there today.

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Can you be made into technology hub to equal silicon valley? That's

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coming up. Not great news for investors this

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year - with UK companies set to cut dividends for the first

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time since 2010. That could mean bad

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news for pension funds. That is the issue, not just

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investors who stand to lose outcome is associated people who are

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related? Yes, it's a big part of the return when you buy shares, not just

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the price, but the income you generate and Centrica, Sainsbury's,

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Tesco, they already cut their dividends and many more will cut

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this year. Dividends were doubly bit last year but the commodity price

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bust and oil price crash, all that is cashed up the companies. Then me

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show you something. This is an information page about them. This is

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for every pound how much income you get and it had a yield of 14%. You

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think, crikey, that sounds good, I will get 14p for every pound, but

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that is a dead ringer for something that the Devlin -- dividend will be

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cut. It will be amazing if they manage to pay that much. Some of the

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big miners are expected to cut. A very important component for pension

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funds, they get the incoming from there and that gets cut it a

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headache for them. Some countries are doing better than

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a few years ago, namely the banks. Lloyds, the LLoyds Banking Group is

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back on its feet and has begun to pay dividends and that like it could

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become a big dividend paying giant. Some of them black -- backing the

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trend, but overall space dividends payments to go down. Thank you. HSBC

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in the news, the Telegraph looking at the fact that after a nine-month

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review of where its headquarters should be located we could find out

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this week if it will decide to keep its HQ in the City of London or

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Canary Wharf or if it will be on the move to Hong Kong, perhaps. There

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has been a lot of debate about this, but whether they are simply using

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this to try and argue against things like the bank levy that it says

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unfairly penalises aid and whether the Government should reassess the

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potential losses that would be a result if they were to move their

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headquarters. Some say it's an empty threat, they would not actually do

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it. Worth watching. The rally in oil prices has come to

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a halt since he called spot in the US.

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Websites for this, apps for that and many of them with

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Many of them are created in America's Silicon Valley.

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So what hope is there for contenders from elsewhere?

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Well, one London investment fund hopes Europe can rival

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Called Seedcamp, it was setup in 2007 to invest new tech

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More than eight years later they've invested hundreds

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of millions of dollars into more than 200 new companies -

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which operate across the world.One of the biggest areas for investment

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is so-called Fin-Tech, financial technology -

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which makes up 15-per cent of their portfolio

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With me is Reshma Sohoni, founder of the investment firm

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So much when it comes to tech start-ups, and the thing that stands

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up -- stand out from me that we try and find finance for them and what

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you do is how you spot them. How do you work out what is viable? There

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are so many every year that come online, how do you judge what is a

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good start up and therefore worthy of money? I think the ecosystem you

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have around an experience, we've been at it about a decade, that

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helped a lot. What we look for is how is the technology instructor for

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the industry of choice and also perseverance. You look for pound --

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founders who are going to go to debt and spend the building something

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powerful and for us and a lot of the asset class, for it to drive it

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needs to be a globally relevant business, world-class. How risky is

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it for you? Obviously you are mentioning the key things you look

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out for but I issue many companies you invest in gold make it? We have

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a 20% death rate and it should really be 40%. Close to half should

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really die because it's very risky and trying to get into the hearts

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and minds of consumer -- consumers is difficult. When you look at the

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new start-ups there are so many that come online together and it's not

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necessarily that there is a unique proposition, I would imagine it's

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quite a view to quite a few to -- doing a similar thing. Is there a

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reason why one takes off and the others fail? ASBOs the skill as a

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spot in the one that will take off? You are spot on and it's a multitude

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of factors and I think it's that entire network of factors coming

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together to make something drive and money. Capital matters a lot,

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whether it is going into hiring the top talent or into marketing or

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rising above the noise. Your business can you started in 2007.

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What a time to start a venture capital company investing in tech

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stock! As we enter a volatile period, I would say it's a reminder

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to us to look back to those times and say, actually, some of the worst

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times in the economy as the best times for start-ups. Why? It is a

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tough period and if you can put money down and investing great

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founders you have the rise of the market to go after and it helps

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everyone float higher, so the worst period is when to invest. What

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industries do you look at? Is your door open to anyone or anything that

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comes through with a new idea that is a Jean-Julien Rojer or DuPont did

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on specific industries? I think we seen a lot of the disruption in

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things like coat-tails and transport and travel. Haughey saturated

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market, I imagine? Absolutely, you go towards things that are part of

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your geography. Being in London and at the centre of gravity of European

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industry and capital, we are certainly prevailed towards the

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intake and property tech, which are huge, so if you talk about rivalry

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versus the US, are trying to say we would not call out at the same angle

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and same industries but we try and look at other industries which are

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huge. Talking of the rivalry, you say Europe will become a serious

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rival to silicon valley, you are from the States, you can tell from

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your accent, how close are we to that? I think in the nature of the

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competition will not be the same, but in terms of value of quantum it

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can seriously rivalled the valley, to industries, financial services,

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property tech and others can help detect and so forth, no reason why

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the UK and Europe cannot be at the forefront. We're being told we got

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to finish it here, which is. Thank you for coming in. In a moment what

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the business places -- pages are discussing, but here's a reminder of

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how you can get in touch. We want to hear from you. Get

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involved on the BBC business live web page. You can also find us on

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Twitter and Facebook. Business live, on TV and online, whenever you need

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to know. We're looking at the stories we've not mentioned yet.

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Richard Fletcher, Business Editor at The Times is joining us

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Rahane is out there in the Saudi orders a load of aeroplanes, it

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would seem? He's coming to Europe this week, you will be in Paris and

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this is one of the deals that will be announced, probably the biggest,

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not just planes and oil, we had a story on Saturday about the fact

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that pistachio nuts, a range that 60% of the market for sanctions were

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imposed. That collapsed and California pistachios, they're

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trying to get the Government 's two inches a 200% tariff because they've

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been used to having the market for themselves. Saffron in Spain is

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another market that will be hit. There is some big deals and small

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deals, but not small if you work in those markets. Apparently their

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current features 44 planes, so this is more than doubling it. Looking at

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the numbers, is an upgrade for a fleet that has an average age of 25

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years. Some aircraft predates the 1979 Islamic revolution. The head of

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Iran air trying to do these negotiations says don't talk about

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it too much because we need to steal this deal. You understand that even

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catering is a big issue? We take it for granted that there is these

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services but in Iran that is not necessarily the case. He did not

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want to fly on Iran air, 1200 deaths since 1980, a large number caused by

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criminal failure. Good news for the people of Iran goes their flying on

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slightly zephyr planes. It's about proving to the Arabian people that

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is letting can be good for them economically because it's about

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boosting these, there is a tendency to think all of these foreign firms

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will come in as tap into our market but it's a two-way process.

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Absolutely, the possession of nuts are example. Busy summer in ring in

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money coming into the London property market as well. How

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driverless cars could kill the speeding ticket and rob your city.

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That is one line. I would imagine most people think, great. This is

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the law of unintended consequences. Everyone has worked out driverless

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cars are more law-abiding than me and maybe you as well. So

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Washington, for example, the issue over 700 fines for cutting red

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lights every day. $37 million per year. It is big business. For local

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authorities it could be bad news around the world as these

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law-abiding cars. Staggering statistics, $307 million in revenue

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over ten years just from speed cameras. He said it is an entire

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industry, one which could disappear overnight. Yes, leisure can

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programme your driver 's car to slightly bruised his bid limits come

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yes, I'm sure someone will somewhere. As Mike driverless car to

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slightly push the limit. That's quickly mention this story about

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Adidas and earlier than expected end of its sponsorship deal with the

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IAAF. This is amazing, just a few months before the Olympics, it could

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be challenged in court. Adidas are relying on the fact they believe

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these revelations about drug abuse allowed them to use disk was in the

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contract that allows them to end it now. The IAAF could change that, but

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we'll have to wait and see. We dug by the French implication. This lays

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bare how much money is involved in sport when you talk with ending

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sponsorship from one company which tens of millions at stake? Yes, it

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goes to show how close these manufacturers are to athletics and

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how much money has been involved. Thank you. We appreciate all your

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comments. Let's squeeze in some of yours. You sent us some of your

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thoughts on social media. We been asking if you think is right for

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editors just drop its sponsorship of the IAAF. Ryan says yes, I believe

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there within their rights to leave the deal to do that tarnish

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replication -- reputation for the about big business will not wanting

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to that is with a business in difficulty. Until it cleans up its

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act, good move by Adidas, it should leave more money for track and field

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athletes. James says quite right for them to polite, all athletes across

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all sports should be up to do that, they need to clean them up or their

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brands will suffer. Where Wilshire and oil prices be

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tomorrow? See you tomorrow. By life. -- goodbye.

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Sunday saw some record-breaking January temperatures. 16.5 degrees

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in the Western Highlands. Not quite as mild as that today,

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