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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Facing up to fraud as the cost of cyber-crime hits $600 billion

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a year, we'll examine what's being done to tackle the fraudsters.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Wednesday, 10th February.

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Tackling the multi-billion dollar problem of fraud.

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UK authorities and the Bank of England, launch a new task-force

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to combat crimes against companies and consumers.

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The force awakens at Walt Disney -

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profits at its film business soar powered by the Star Wars movie

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but not even Chewbacca can keep investors happy.

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Financial markets are uneasy. Her headed higher, despite Japan having

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more heavy losses. : And how do firms protect

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their overseas staff from disaster, Chances are, they call

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International SOS. The boss of the world's largest

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global rescue firm will be here

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to give us the inside track the Asian tsunami and

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the Mumbai terror attacks. As shares in Twitter

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fall to an all time low. We want your suggestions

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on what you think the social media What is the one feature

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you want to see added Let us know.

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Just use the hashtag BBCBizLive. It is another packed show. Do you

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feel like you are bombarded by spam and scams?

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The rise of technology has also seen the rise of fraud,

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giving criminals new tools to target companies and consumers.

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So today, the UK Home Secretary, Bank

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of England Governor Mark Carney, Chief Executives from the big banks

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and the police have all teamed up to support a new initiative designed

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to share intelligence to combat the global,

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Five million frauds are committed every year in England and Wales.

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With cheque, card and online banking fraud up 8%.

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E-mail scams and malware have risen by around 20%, this year has seen

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a sudden rise in spoof texts, cleverly designed to look

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like they are sent from your bank or a government department,

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with the aim of stealing personal or financial information.

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It is not a UK problem, the Centre for Strategic

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and International Studies in the US, say that cyber crime costs

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the global economy $575 billion a year.

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On the rise too, CEO Fraud where a criminal pretending to be

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a company boss instructs an employee of another firm to transfer money,

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Out of the $36 million reported to be lost to this type of fraud

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in the UK, only $1.4 million is recovered.

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Rachel Lane is the Director of Customer Analytics at Verint.

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Rachel, nice to see. Sally running through the big issues there, but

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this boils down to our personal use of how we use technology. I suppose,

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first up, dos and don'ts of what we should be thinking about when we're

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online. Yes, I think this moved on rapidly over the past 12 months as

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consumers, we have seen quite a lot of fraud, both personally in our in

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boxes, you can see the spam e-mails, but we have been looking on the news

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at other hackings etcetera. Certainly data security is key for

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consumers and top of mind at the moment. So in terms of dos and

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don'ts, what consumers are looking for is to do business with

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organisations that are transparent with them. So for example, if you're

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online and you're making purchases online, when that organisation asks

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you for data, you want to know there is benefit for you for giving that

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data so you will get a personalised or faster service or they need it in

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order to make the transaction complete. Those are the key things

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from a consumer prospective that are top of mind right now. What are the

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most common threats to consumers online? It is scamming and it is

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that sort of identity fraud that we hear so much about, but as you

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touched on there, it is so easy to be duped by the quality of some of

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these scams? Yeah, there is. Many of them, you can still tell today. You

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know when you get e-mails that if the English isn't great in the

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e-mails you can discard those. When you think about those organisations

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that are important to you, your banking relationship, your insurance

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companies, they do not send you e-mails which require you to give

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out passwords or any sensitive information. So I think if you're

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concerned, then do not just delete that e-mail and do not do anything

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about it, if that organisation is genuine, they will find another way

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to contact you. Is sharing information online now a necessary

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evil? Because if you want to do business with many of these

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companies, we don't have an option, you have got to plug in your

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personal details because that's how they get in touch with us, if you

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look at TalkTalk, recently, it was credited with fronting up and

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acknowledging there was a problem early on, it was very transparent in

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how it tried to deal with it. Is that how we will judge our

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relationship with the business based on how transparent they are?

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Absolutely, it is. It should be as well. Consumers want you to be

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honest with them. So with the TalkTalk example, it was clear that

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although there was a catastrophic problem there, the CEO was very

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media focussed, she was out there and she was talking exactly about

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where they were. Frankly their initial response wasn't necessarily

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what their consumers wanted to hear, however, that transparency meant you

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felt comfortable that when they understood the full scope of what

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the issue was, they would deal with it and they would make good on the

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mistakes, which, of course, they did. A really interesting tale.

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Rachel, thank you. Rachel Lane there. Thank you.

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Thank you. Japan Airlines has announced that it

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will cancel fuel surcharges on its international flights

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in April and May due This is the first such move

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in six and a half years. Its rival All Nippon Airways

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is expected to follow suit. Australia's top mortgage lender,

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Commonwealth Bank has posted its slowest growth

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in half-yearly revenue - The Commonwealth is the first

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of the country's big four banks to report its half-yearly earnings,

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helping investors judge their ability to withstand

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a slowdown in the Chinese economy Banking shares down under

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are suffering the worst start to a year since the global financial

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crisis due to rising British luxury fashion brand

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Burberry is suing JC Penney. It's accusing the US retailer

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of trademark infringement by selling clothes that featured exact

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copies of its famous Burberry says it has used

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that since the 1920s. So trying to keep JC Penney in

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check! And there are more puns from Sally to come!

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Pinewood telling us, it is looking at strategic options. It could

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involve a sale of the business. Pinewood is famous for all sorts of

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important English films, but potentially could have a new owner.

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I want to take you to Heineken as well. We have had numbers from

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Heineken. It says it is forecasting higher revenues and profits this

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year. For last year, profits were up by 16%. You have been talking to

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them as well. I talked to the chief financial officer of Heineken, who

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is a French lady, who is in her mid-40s, quite an impressive woman,

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I have to say. I was impressed by your pronunciation.

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Deutsche Bank isn't the only lender around the world having

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Japanese bank shares are also falling.

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Tell us more. They are being hit hard by the markets? Sally, the

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Japanese lenders are getting a real beating. For example, miss bishy

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down more than 7%. A financial group down 7%. What is causing this? Well,

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there are fears of another global recession and there is the issue of

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a strong Japanese yen. It spiked versus the US dollar recently and

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that's because investors are dumping risky assets and buying the yen

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because of its safe haven status. There are concerns about the

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European Banking system and whether there is more stress there. So it

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has been felt across the sector, but in Japan in particular, I think it

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is from negative interest rates that were adopted at the end of last

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month. This means that commercial banks have to pay interest on

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certain deposits held at the Central Bank and this is expected to squeeze

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already tight profit margins at the Japanese lenders. So overall we are

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seeing selling across-the-board in Japan, but the banks are getting

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really hard hit. Thank you very much.

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Let's look at the numbers so we have a sense of how the day ended in

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Japan. Down 2.3%. The figure for Hong Kong is actually last Friday.

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Many markets are closed. Singapore reopened today and it had a tough

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time. In America, you can see the Dow closing down slightly on

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Tuesday. Let's look at Europe now quickly before we hand to our team

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on Wall Street. So a mixed picture emerging. London was up moments ago.

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It is now down. So really markets not really sure which direction to

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go in. Let's hear more from Michelle Fleury who is in the US for us. What

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will Janet Yelland signal about US interest rates? Well, Wall Street

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will be listening closely for any clues, the chairwoman of the Federal

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Reserve heads to Capitol Hill on Wednesday for two days of

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congressional testimony. A lot changed from her press conference in

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December when the Central Bank raised rates. There are financial

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worries and concerns about the knock on effect this will have on the US

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economiment there are notable companies reporting earnings, the

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microbloging site Twitter is expected to report a rise in fourth

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quarter profits. Will it be enough to satisfy investors though? Since

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he returned to the top job last year, the Chief Executive ruled out

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service new services and products. And at thes letter reports after the

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US market closes. James Quinn, Group Business

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Editor at The Telegraph. We are allowed to talk about the Fed

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and rates again because we have talked so much about it, but there

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was a ban in between. It is back in the spotlight now. That's right, we

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ended the year talking about nothing else. Interest rates going up in the

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US. Everyone thinking 2016 would be a great year and the whole of

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January, fears stalking the markets and February kicked off in the same

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way. Everyone looking to Janet Yelland to see if she can raise our

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hopes or compound our fears. Back in November, of last year, people were

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now some analyst are saying nothing now some analyst are saying nothing

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now in 2016 in terms of future rate rises in the US? Yes, that's right

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and the Economist Intelligence Unit saying no more rate rises in the UK

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until 2020. It is not great for savers, but great for people with

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mortgages. Michelle touched on it from New

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York, but Twitter, an important time and shares falling in after hours

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trading and they are really struggling to find a purpose. It is

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easy for us to think in certain professions maybe in the media, we

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use Twitter a lot, but in the real world, it is Facebook that everyone

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is using and that's the problem, isn't it? That's right. Twitter has

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300 million users, subscribers, but they don't pay a fee, nor do they on

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Facebook, but on Facebook they tend to be more zwrick and they hang

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around longerment on Twitter, people are floating in and out, shares all

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time lie and the Chief Executive is trying to redefine what Twitter is

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about, show there is a reason for it.

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One we will watch closely. James for now, thank you very much. James

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Quinn there. We speak to this

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man, Arnaud Vaissie. More than 60% of companies

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in the Fortune 500 are his clients! You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. The gender pay gap is back

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in the spotlight today. The Women and Equalities Select

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Committee will hear evidence about the persistent gap

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between what women earn The inquiry is aiming to narrow that

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divide since official figures show that men still earn 19% more

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than women in the UK. Wedndy Bowers is the Ambassador

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for Women's Enterprise Wendy, good morning. Talk us through

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why the gap persists. It is something we talked a lot, but it

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never seems to go away as a problem. Good morning Sally and good morning,

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Ben. Yes we have a huge problem and this increases as women move

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throughout their careers. So for women over 40, the pay gap is 35%.

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For women over 50, it is 38%. We know the stats, 69% of junior

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managers, and 63% of junior managers female. We know that we need to make

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agile working something that's acceptable as the norm. We need

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universal subsidised childcare which will enable many more women to go

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back into work, into the full-time positions that they have fought hard

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to gain. We know we need more women in higher paid occupations because

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many women work in part-time occupations where flexible work is

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available, but they tend to be the lower paid occupations. So, it is

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great that the Government is moving towards gender pay gap reporting in

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companies that are the large companies over 250 employees, but we

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must not forget that 65% of our employees work in very small

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businesses and you know, we have many more employees working in SMEs.

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What we need to be doing actually is looking at the percentages of male,

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versus female managers at every level throughout our organisations

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that have more than 100 employees. The issue seems to be something that

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does not go away. The information on our website. Look at the story in

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the Guardian. A report calling for the abolition of network rail at the

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moment. That could lead to privatisation. It is the

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nationalisation of the railways that is causing problems.

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Combating fraud is the top story today. The UK is launching a new

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crackdown on this issue to tackle high-tech crime. In many cases the

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cost of that crime rises ever more. Up to $600 billion per year. It is a

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similar story. Many businesses expanding overseas is easier than

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ever. It is not uncommon for firms to have staff based in all corners

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of the world. How can you make sure those staff are safe regardless of

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where the art? What if your employees are caught up in an

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earthquake or add natural disaster, and outbreak of war or disease. Our

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next guest is a man who many companies come through. He is the

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founder of International SOS. It is the largest medical and security

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travel company. It provides services to employees working overseas in the

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moat or dangerous places. It has more than 10,000 clients including

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multinational firms and government agencies. Since it was founded more

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than 30 years ago, demand for these services has risen sharply and looks

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after 61% of Fortune global 500 companies. It played a key role in

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disasters such as the recent terror attacks in Paris and in Mali. And

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also the Ebola and SARS epidemics. The boss joins us. Welcome. You are

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operating in many countries, clean through the practical reality of how

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it all works. It strikes me that you are having to go into places that

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most people are leaving just at the time when it is most difficult. We

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are pretty much everywhere and it works through 24-7 assistance

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centres that are throughout the world. We have a large centre here

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in London. These assistance centres are staffed with doctors and

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security specialists. They take calls from our members and employees

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of clients 24-7 and respond to the provision of medical advice which is

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a large part of what we do, all the way through to managing major

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crisis. Explain how this started. It was yourself and a friend 30 years

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ago, he was a doctor and Ju Reti businessman. We had this idea? He

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still busy doctor today. He was actually sent to South East Asia at

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this time in the military. He realised there was very little

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medical assistance outside of the hospital. The idea was to set in

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place a system that caught -- corporations could use for their

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employees throughout south-east Asia. From them, we went around the

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world. We looked at Asia first, all the way to China. And then the

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United States and now we're into eastern Africa. What are the most

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difficult issues you have faced on the ground? It is difficult --

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different depending on the emergency, we had talked about the

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sort of this mess in the past and when we have discussed it, it is the

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surprising thing is that are the most difficult, the bureaucracy of

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getting into these countries. Is that an issue you face? It is an

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issue. We have close to 100 staff who are already prepared to set in

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motion all of the agreements that we are going to need when we intervene.

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The preparation and planning is absolutely key to what we are doing.

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The reality is that even though risk is high, the mundane issues are

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still critical to most travellers such as falling sick abroad or a car

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accident which remains the number one problem for international

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travellers. Interesting, we always assume it is the big events like

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what happened in Paris. The most high risk thing to do is to get in a

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car, depending on where you are in the world. On a personal level, how

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do you handle this because you are running a company with thousands of

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employees that looks after clients's employees of many thousands, facing

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all sorts of challenges. How do you personally switch from that? It is a

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24-7 organisation. We are a global company and we take care of our

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clients all of the time. You cannot be disconnected. There are 11,000 of

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us. Many talented people. 1400 physicians. Many security

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specialists. These people can function independently and they do,

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around the world. Time is against us but it is nice to see you. Thank you

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so much. Also in the programme, the force awake and is sees profits Walt

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Disney 's Prost Mac profits rise. Profits at most Disney studio

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division rose by 86% in the last quarter, fuelled by that Star Wars

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film. Disney's TV channel such as ESPN suffered from higher programme

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costs and falling subscriber numbers. It went up 30% in profits

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but did not impress Wall Street. One industry watcher told us why

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television is becoming the biggest challenge. The demographic is moving

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towards online platforms with young people and teenagers. The challenge

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for Disney is hitting that audience both in the pay-TV space but also in

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advertising because advertising is moving online as well. One way to

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counter this is to start to license people like net flicks and that is

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what they have done with movies in the US which is their core market.

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They are also exploring direct insurer options so in the UK we have

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the launch of Disney Life which is a monthly subscription over the

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service on the Internet. That is targeting the young demographic that

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is watching online. Let us look at other business stories that are

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taking interest. James Quinn is back with us from the Telegraph. If you

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could be a Disney hero, who would it be? Probably Aladdin. I would have

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to be Superman Batman. You would be a Marvel hero? I want the power of

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Frozen. I could freeze you both. Twitter is not Facebook says the

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Washington Post but boasted he expects it to be and that is the

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problem. We get twitter results later. The challenge is how they

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make it relevant to everybody, not just certain areas. The media

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industry is easy for us to think that everyone is looking at Twitter.

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Amongst the older demographic there are some statistics that see the

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above 65-year-olds in the US, almost half are on Facebook but will only

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6% are on Twitter. If you are looking to make money from

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advertisers, you need to go through the demographic rather than just

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younger people. We were asking about the one thing you would change about

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Twitter. Lots of people saying it is the ability to edit suites that they

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want. Once you have done it it is out in the world and cannot do much

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rather than deleted. Advertising saying if you use certain platforms

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to access Twitter so you do not see any adverts and they are amazed it

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makes money. Let us talk about Deutsche Bank. The German finance

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minister coming out to say it will be all right and we will do

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everything we can to make sure there are no major disasters. It is

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unusual to see the finance minister to come out and say do not worry.

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The chief executive of Deutsche Bank was born in the UK in and came out

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and said we are rock-solid, do not worry. There are reports that debts

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will be brought back by the bank and that is what investors are worried

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about. As always, time is against us. Thank you very much. Thank you

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for joining us. We will see you again tomorrow.

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The next few days are settled and I was plenty of sunshine. It. Chivalry

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across the country

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