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We will be taking a look at that. You know how to get in touch with

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us. Get involved in the conversation on Business Live using the hashtag

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you can see behind me. Steel is back on the agenda today

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in a big way as bosses of some of Europe's biggest steel-makers

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are in Brussels demanding urgent action to support

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Europe's steel industry. They are going to march

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to the European Commission buildings where industry chiefs and unions

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will meet with senior commissioners including the European Vice

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President who is responsible The EU is the second largest

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producer of steel in the world after China, which has been accused

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of flooding the European market Last Friday the European Commission

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opened anti-dumping investigations Tanya Beckett explains

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what all the fuss is about. The price of steel has fallen

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dramatically in the past five years. The steel industry is dominated by

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China, accounting for almost half of global production. It produced

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nearly 900 million metric tonnes last year. But as growth in China's

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economies slows, it has been sending more steel abroad. Its exports have

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surged 51% whereas Japan and the EU have seen marginal changes. The

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European Steel Association says 5000 jobs have been lost across Europe in

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recent months with the UK particularly affected. Companies

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like Tata Steel and Redcar blamed prices as cheap Chinese steel. With

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more jobs on the line, the EU took action in January and set

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provisional duties on Chinese imports of between 9.2% and 13%. But

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many say these measures do not go far enough. The steel industry

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employs 328,000 people in Europe and thousands of these jobs are at risk

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from cheap Chinese imports. That was Tanya Beckett outlining some of the

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detail for us. US Steel Kosice is the largest

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integrated steel producer in central The company's President,

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Scott Buckiso, joins Thank you for being on the

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programme. Clearly the big European players in the steel industry feel

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they have a strong argument for more action from the European Commission.

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What do you want from them in terms of further action? Well, thank you

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for having me. We are here for two reasons. First of all, not only are

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the heads of the steel companies here but thousands of our colleagues

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and co-workers, I know I have had many of my colleagues from US Steel

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Kosice travel for two days to be here, that is how important it is to

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us. We have been aggressively participating in all of these trade

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cases. If you look at the piece just given, those percentages, the

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We are here to make sure that the We are here to make sure that the

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European Commission uses all of its tools and all of its laws to enforce

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fair trade. Right now, with the glut of steel coming in from China and

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Russia and others, it is not a level playing field. The European market

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is one of the most open markets in the world as China and others are

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using that to dump their overcapacity of steel that they have

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in their countries for economic purposes and allowing them to

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subsidise the steel market in their country and it is hurting the

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European industry. On that issue of cheaper Chinese steel

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on the market, as you say, that is an issue that those in your industry

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have been talking about for a long time. Do you think that Brussels has

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been slow to show leadership on this issue? We have not seen a

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pan-European directive to restrict imports or impose higher tariffs

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until now, until you are literally marching on Brussels? Absolutely.

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That is why we are here. That is why literally thousands of people are

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here today. It is going to be catastrophic to the European economy

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and it will have social and economic effects throughout the entire

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European Union if the European Commission does not act and impose

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higher duties and stop the glut of steel coming onto the shores of

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Europe. They have not acted and they have not set proper duties on those

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steel imports. The second problem that we have at the second reason

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that we are here is that we feel that the European Commission cannot

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allow China to become a market economy or have market economy

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status. They do not meet the criteria. If they ground market

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economy status to China, it will be an open book for them to continue to

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dump unfairly traded steel into the dump unfairly traded steel into the

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European market, while subsidising their state-owned companies back in

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China. Very briefly, do you also admit that the steel industry

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generally speaking across Europe has got to see through some very

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difficult change? And that does mean job losses, regardless of China's

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dumping of steel in Europe, just because global demand has fallen and

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prices have fallen, so therefore the industry has got to change anyway.

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Yes. The industry has been changing. Since 2008, both in Europe and in

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the US, they have reduced their costs of doing business. However,

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with unfairly traded material continuing to be dumped excessively

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into the European market, we cannot cut costs fast enough. It should not

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take the company to be bankrupt or to lay off thousands of workers to

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prove injury and that is what is happening in the European Commission

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needs to act faster. We appreciate your time. The President of US Steel

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Kosice, thank you for your time. Just to say, we will keep you across

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this. Thank you for having me. A pleasure. We will keep you across

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everything going on in Brussels with that March. Some other news this

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hour. UK banking giant HSBC has

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announced it is to keep Concerns about stricter UK

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regulations led Europe's biggest bank to launch a review

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into whether to move elsewhere, with Hong Kong seen as the most

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likely alternative. But the bank said it had decided

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unanimously against the move and that London offered

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the best outcome for our Toyota says it has resumed

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operations at all vehicle assembly and parts plants in Japan

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after its longest domestic production suspension

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since the March 2011 The world's top automaker said

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earlier this month that it would temporarily stop all domestic

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vehicle production from 8th February to 13th February due

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to a components shortage following an explosion at supplier

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and affiliate Aichi Steel. Just looking at the Business Live

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page online, and just one story, coverage of HSBC and the twists and

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turns. This one made us chuckle because this debate is in no way

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new. This discussion about whether HSBC would move away from London,

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most likely to Hong Kong. There is an article here dated the 3rd of

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September, 2010. So this has been rumbling on for quite a long time.

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That is the UK Business Live page. If you want to know more about that,

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get stuck in. We can move to Japan now.

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The economy contracted in the final three months

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of 2015, adding to a string of setbacks for the government's

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Between October and December, official figures show the economy

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shrank by an annualised 1.4% percent.

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This is worse than expected - most predicted the economy

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Weaker domestic consumption was the biggest

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factor pulling down the economy, but slumping exports due

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to a stronger Japanese yen didn't help either.

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The news highlights the challenges facing Prime Minister Shinzo Abe

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in attempting to drag the world's third-biggest economy

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Many are now saying three years of so-called Abenomics

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Rupert Wingfield-Hayes joins us from Tokyo.

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Nice to see you. Give us your take on this story because the Japanese

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economy does not seem to be improving and if anything is going

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in the other direction. Yes, definitely bad news. Three years

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into the so-called Abenomics and we are back where we started with the

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Japanese economy shrinking and the stock market falling in the last

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week. What were the last three years for and what has gone wrong? There

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are two components to this, the domestic component, what is going on

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with the domestic economy, massive amounts of quantitative easing over

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three years have pushed up the stock market and helped banks restore

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their balance sheet that this has not fed through to Japanese

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consumers and consumer demand has remained flat. That is why we are

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seeing these GDP figures. The other issue with experts. The value of the

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Japanese yen was pushed down over the last three years which has

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helped exporters a lot on exports were booming. Companies like Toyota

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were making record profits but in the last six months that has dropped

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off dramatically, a large part because of what is going on in

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China, the world economy slowing down, and in the last month the

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dramatic strengthening of the Japanese yen, not because of

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anything going on in Tokyo but because of a lack of confidence

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around the world. When that happens, investors rush to what they call

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save havens and the Japanese yen is considered a safe haven and because

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of it that has meant it has gone up in value and then the Japanese

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products cost more money. Thank you. A quick look at markets

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and in Japan, despite the dismal data that showed the economy

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contracted more than expected the Nikkei stocks rocketed

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on Monday, leading most Asian markets higher and in so doing

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snapping a five-day losing streak. That data raised hopes for more

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stimulus for Asia's second biggest And in China, Chinese shares dropped

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on their first day of trading after the week-long Lunar New Year

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holidays that coincided with a sharp European shares have

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opened sharply higher, following gains in Asia

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where a firmer Chinese currency And in Paris and Spain, all the

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markets are up 2% well. is Richard Jeffrey,

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Chief Investment Officer Happy new week. I feel like every

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Monday I have a conversation about how the week has begun. Since the

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start of 2016I am not sure about where we are going next. There has

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been a lot of turbulence and sentiment is understandably fragile.

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We need to get a grip on what is going on behind this and why

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sentiment is so fragile. I think it is part of this adjustment process

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for investors and other people taking economic and policy

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decisions. The adjustment process for those people to what is a new

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economic order. It is certainly a new economic order compared to what

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we got used to before the recession. Before the recession, we were seeing

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the West driving global demand and grows, and excess demand in the

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West. People in developing economies were feeding that through

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manufacturing activity and it was a period of strong global growth. That

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is slowing down and the West is not growing as quickly and people

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feeding the growth in the West are finding life much tougher. There

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were nervous given that China was opening for the first time in a week

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and last week was really turbulence in Japan and elsewhere. But actually

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we have not had any falling off a cliff moments today or any highly

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volatile sessions yet. I know it is early days, 45 minutes into the

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European date! 45 minutes and the FTSE 100 is up.

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The authorities were saying that they have no policy of devaluing it.

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They are going to keep it stable. They don't see the economy is headed

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for a hard landing and it is growing at a respectable rate. Whether they

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can fulfil both those two things remains to be seen, but the

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statements in themselves were reassuring.

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Thank you, Richard. He will be back in myself more minutes. More work to

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do for Richard! We'll to hear

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from a firm that calls itself the Silicon Valley of shipping

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and a plan to build greener, wind powered cargo ships that

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reduces fuel consumption You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. As we mentioned earlier,

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Europe's largest bank HSBC has decided to keep its headquarters

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in the UK despite concerns about increased regulation

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and the risk of a Brexit. Tanya Beckett is back

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with us and joins us Nice to see you, Tanya. It was no

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big surprise, was it, really? Yes. HSBC has been deliberating this move

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for really sometime and some ten months and the feeling was that UK

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was held to ransom because it was a big impact on the UK. It provides up

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to about ?1 billion of revenues every year in just terms of the levy

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it pays because it has an enormous balance sheet. It is Europe's

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largest bank after all. But this was a bank that has its roots in the Far

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East, in Asia, in 1865 it was set-up. So relatively short time in

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the context of its history, but it hires a lot of people. 26,000 to be

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precise and in the UK, there are 48,000 of those people, so although

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it would have been costly for the bank to move, it would have been a

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huge decision, it would have cost ?1.5 billion to do it. The feeling

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is a little bit that it was very keen to lean on the Treasury here in

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the UK, and try to get some concessions and where it has been

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successful is certainly reducing the bank levy. It lobbied very, very

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hard there. Also, of course, it is concern about the possibility of the

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UK exiting the EU, but it says that it has large operations in France

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and can fall back on those, but unquestionably what we have seen in

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terms of the turmoil in China and of course, Japan, perhaps raises

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questions about how stable the growth is that we have seen in the

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Far East and therefore, perhaps, makes it less attractive, although

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one would imagine that the short-term fluctuations wouldn't

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really play into a long-term des, certainly they must colour the

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picture. -- decision, but certainly, they

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must colour the picture. A story that grabbed Alice's

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attention because she was having an opposite story last week about

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rents. Apparently, it slowed in the previous quarter, but that

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north-south divide is still very much an issue.

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Protests over the state of Europe's steel industry,

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battered by a perfect storm of cheap Chinese imports,

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Bosses of steel companies are marching on the European

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Commission's head quarters for action.

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Shipping is the life blood of the global economy.

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Without the raw materials, food and manufactured goods

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transported by sea, economies would grind to a halt.

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Clearly, there's no doubt that the industry is a polluter,

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but aircraft and lorries are far bigger emitters of CO2.

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The sheer volume of sea cargo means there's a need

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The Smart Green Shipping Alliance, the SGSA, calls itself

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It's a pan-industry initiative to develop commercially

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viable, environmentally-friendly vessels.

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The Alliance is using technology, initially developed for high

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performance yachts, to design a hybrid cargo ship

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The high-tech design reduces fuel use by 50%.

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This is important as the global shipping industry carries around 90%

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Diane Gilpin is the Founder and Chief Executive

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of the Smart Green Shipping Alliance.

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Welcome to Business Live. Thank you very much. It sounds like a tall

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order really to make this happen. Where did the idea first come into

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being? I think, it is a tall order. We work clabtively and I think the

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idea of wind at sea isn't exactly new. We have had thousands of years

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of experience of propelling ships through the water using renewable

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energy. In fact our world has been built on wind. My personal

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experience comes from driving start up innovations. I worked for

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Secretnet and I went to work in Formula One and what was really

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interesting about that was the -- Cellnet. I move from Formula One

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into yacht racing and there was no con daout for the experience,

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expertise, technology that was being developed in yacht racing to go into

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commercial shipping in the same way as it did from Formula One to

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automotive. So, working also in renewable energy you start to think,

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you know what, there is a lot of knowledge there. We can start to

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transfer that technology. So that coupled with the very urgent need to

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start looking at how we can reduce cost, reduce vulnerability, and

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exposure to volatile fuel prices going into the future. A ship built

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today, will last for 30 years. So, you know, the outcome that we expect

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in Paris would mean that that ship would have to be net zero emissions.

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Diane you have designed this hybrid cargo ship using technology that was

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used for high performance yacht racing, but it is a tall order you

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face as Sally was ind mating. At a time when we have a glut of ships in

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the world compared to the amount of goods we need to ship and also at a

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time of historically low oil prices, how receptive do you think the

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industry will be to taking on more cost to building these new highly

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developed ships in your blog from the Paris Climate talks, you talk

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about selective deafness? It wasn't me that designed the ships. It was

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one of the leading yacht designers. We work with Lloyds Register to

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combine commercial shipping with the industrialised version of yacht

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racing. But it is difficult and there are decenting voices. Change

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is a difficult thing for a human being in any shape or form and I

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think the shipping industry is no different to that, but having said

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that, we work clabtively and we have got fantastic members of our

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alliance who are working across the shipping structure. So we're working

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on three separate, but interconnected work streams, we are

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doflgt fast rig which is the technology to harness the power of

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the wind. We're developing a big data analysis tool called Trade Wind

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where we're working with the Met Office where we have 20, 30 years of

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weather data. So we can predict how much free fuel we can harness. And

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we're working with the finance commercial sector law. How we

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reengineer the finance arrangements. So you have some extra, as you say,

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Alice, extra upfront capital cost, and that's over a 30 year period.

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You can start to put resilience and certainty back into the system and

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it badly needs it. We appreciate your time. Thank you

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for coming in from Smart Green Shipping Alliance.

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We have to move on. The time is getting the better of us today.

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Imagine clothing that improves your performance

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We'll hear from the boss of high tech sportswear firm,

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In a moment we'll take a look through the Business Pages but first

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whenever you need to know. Richard is back. This story caught

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our attention. City's top bankers could avoid UK rules. What's that

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about? It is an interesting story. It has an echo of stories we were

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talking about before a couple of weeks ago, how do you tax companies

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which have operations across international borders. How do you

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regulate companies? In particular for this one, should people who run

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overseas operations of a bank, who are based in London, be subject to

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the London regulatory rules or should they be regulated elsewhere?

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What City is arguing they should be relegated elsewhere and not subject

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to a new regime that's being introduced over the next month or

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so. None of the other major banks are following suit, are they? No,

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but they will be watching closely.

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