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Security shake-up. with Aaron Heslehurst and Sally | :00:08. | :00:12. | |
Europe holds emergency talks on making its airports safer - | :00:13. | :00:16. | |
amid growing concern from the travel business. | :00:17. | :00:22. | |
Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday | :00:23. | :00:24. | |
In the wake of the attacks in Brussels and the hijacking | :00:25. | :00:42. | |
of an Egyptian airliner - the European Commission's top | :00:43. | :00:49. | |
aviation security officials meet to find out how airport security | :00:50. | :00:54. | |
One of China's biggest steel producers records a huge drop | :00:55. | :00:57. | |
in profit - despite plans to increase production. | :00:58. | :01:04. | |
Meanwhile the UK government rules out nationalising the struggling | :01:05. | :01:07. | |
And we'll be getting the Inside Track on running one | :01:08. | :01:18. | |
of Europe's most popular train routes linking the UK to Europe. | :01:19. | :01:20. | |
The boss of Eurostar will join us and talk about the challenges | :01:21. | :01:23. | |
of security - disruption and investing in a new fleet. | :01:24. | :01:26. | |
And Microsoft's controversial experiment in artificial | :01:27. | :01:29. | |
intelligence has made a brief return online - | :01:30. | :01:31. | |
before being taken down after tweeting about marijuana. | :01:32. | :01:35. | |
We want to know - do we expect too much from artificial intelligence? | :01:36. | :01:54. | |
Security officials from all over Europe are due to hold an emergency | :01:55. | :02:03. | |
meeting in Amsterdam to assess whether airport safety | :02:04. | :02:07. | |
It follows the Brussels terror attacks last week, | :02:08. | :02:12. | |
and the hijacking of an Egyptian airliner on Tuesday. | :02:13. | :02:14. | |
The European Commission's Aviation Security committee will be looking | :02:15. | :02:17. | |
at 500 airports - to find out what practical steps can be taken. | :02:18. | :02:29. | |
blasts in the departure airport. This is an area where passengers | :02:30. | :02:37. | |
have not been through security checks. | :02:38. | :02:52. | |
David Learmount, a consulting editor at Flightglobal, | :02:53. | :02:59. | |
Lots of experts looking at this today, what will be come up with? | :03:00. | :03:09. | |
They meet very regularly but what they have done is they have called | :03:10. | :03:13. | |
an extra one. This is an extraordinary meeting. | :03:14. | :03:15. | |
What they are doing is looking at the Brussels event and | :03:16. | :03:20. | |
saying, can we react to this usefully, without too much | :03:21. | :03:24. | |
disruption? One thing they don't want is to disrupt transport because | :03:25. | :03:28. | |
it is economically very harmful. Is it a case here, some people say | :03:29. | :03:34. | |
we need zero risk. That is impossible, it is minimising | :03:35. | :03:42. | |
the number of people that can If they are talking about security | :03:43. | :03:47. | |
checks before you even get into the | :03:48. | :03:50. | |
departure hall, many people are saying, aren't you | :03:51. | :03:58. | |
just pushing the problem further out into the | :03:59. | :04:00. | |
When I spoke to the European Commission about this yesterday, I | :04:01. | :04:06. | |
asked them what new ideas that they have? What | :04:07. | :04:09. | |
they tried to work out is whether they can usefully refine | :04:10. | :04:17. | |
what we already have. What we are talking about | :04:18. | :04:17. | |
the Brussels on, that was in a public area, no security checks | :04:18. | :04:25. | |
before you go in there. You can move it out | :04:26. | :04:31. | |
to the car park by having checks on the entrance. So if you | :04:32. | :04:33. | |
that means there are fewer people in the departure hall. But actually | :04:34. | :04:47. | |
guaranteeing that nobody will be hurt, that is impossible what about | :04:48. | :04:53. | |
some systems already in place that seemed to be effective. In Montreal, | :04:54. | :04:57. | |
there is a staggered, entry system, so you are not | :04:58. | :05:00. | |
to people come two hours before your flight, you are giving people a | :05:01. | :05:08. | |
specific time when they come. Is that unrealistic at somewhere like | :05:09. | :05:11. | |
Heathrow? from Heathrow, we're talking about a | :05:12. | :05:19. | |
relatively speaking, small-town compared | :05:20. | :05:19. | |
so much a security thing as a streaming thing. You can book your | :05:20. | :05:34. | |
place in the queue in advance. It would | :05:35. | :05:34. | |
things they have said, one solution for one airport. | :05:35. | :05:45. | |
They are all different layouts and all different sizes. You cannot have | :05:46. | :05:49. | |
a one size fits all. Every airport When we get news coming out of that | :05:50. | :06:00. | |
emergency meeting in Amsterdam, we will update you. | :06:01. | :06:07. | |
Politicians in Argentina have approved a deal to pay back US | :06:08. | :06:12. | |
creditors, ending a 15-year court battle after defaulting | :06:13. | :06:13. | |
The years-long debt crisis has restricted the country's access | :06:14. | :06:19. | |
to international credit markets and made doing business | :06:20. | :06:21. | |
The UK Business Secretary has ruled out nationalising Britain's biggest | :06:22. | :06:35. | |
steel works - the Port Talbot plant in Wales - | :06:36. | :06:39. | |
but says he's looking at some sort of government support. | :06:40. | :06:40. | |
Indian owner Tata Steel is planning to sell its entire UK business, | :06:41. | :06:43. | |
which employs about 15,000 people - amid a slump in global demand | :06:44. | :06:46. | |
and a surge in cheaper Chinese exports. | :06:47. | :06:53. | |
Royal Dutch Shell says its being investigated by italian prosecutors | :06:54. | :06:55. | |
over its acquisition of a Nigerian oil field. | :06:56. | :06:58. | |
The probe is connected to the 2011 $1.3 billion purchase of Nigeria's | :06:59. | :07:04. | |
OPL-245 offshore oil block by Eni and Shell. | :07:05. | :07:06. | |
The oil giant said it was cooperating with the authorities. | :07:07. | :07:20. | |
Where are travellers going, Spain and the Canary Islands. | :07:21. | :07:41. | |
Their choices are changing as a consequence of the events taking | :07:42. | :07:43. | |
place in the last year. I love Spain and the Canary Islands. | :07:44. | :07:50. | |
ago, but because of security concerns about Egypt, | :07:51. | :07:58. | |
is back as a more popular destination. You are going on | :07:59. | :08:06. | |
holiday, but you are not going to Spain or the Canary | :08:07. | :08:06. | |
China makes more steel than the worst | :08:07. | :08:35. | |
combined, so when they come out today and | :08:36. | :08:40. | |
output by 20%, to 27 million times, many people are scratching their | :08:41. | :08:51. | |
heads asking what is going on. The market has a massive supply which | :08:52. | :08:54. | |
has pushed down prices and causing problems for many companies | :08:55. | :08:57. | |
like Tata and they UK operations. Baosteel has also had problems. | :08:58. | :09:13. | |
China has a very big role to play in the situation. They have been | :09:14. | :09:20. | |
accused of dumping the excess steel products at unfairly low prices | :09:21. | :09:25. | |
around the world. So a lot of other companies cannot compete. We have to | :09:26. | :09:30. | |
take the view that China is suffering as well because millions | :09:31. | :09:33. | |
of jobs have been lost from their steel industry. Baosteel might still | :09:34. | :09:38. | |
be making money but some of the smaller producers have gone | :09:39. | :09:43. | |
bankrupt. The Yellen rally continued | :09:44. | :09:59. | |
in the early part of the session. The markets have been really | :10:00. | :10:04. | |
embracing what the big boss of US Reminding us all, Janet Yellen | :10:05. | :10:08. | |
promised a cautious approach to future US interest rate | :10:09. | :10:11. | |
hikes pointing the finger at the broader global financial | :10:12. | :10:13. | |
concerns. But in Europe, as expected, | :10:14. | :10:15. | |
that rally has eased off. The sliding crude oil prices | :10:16. | :10:17. | |
putting a dampener on that. And looking ahead, lots of important | :10:18. | :10:20. | |
numbers out tomorrow. An indicator of the health | :10:21. | :10:23. | |
of China's manufacturing picture In fact, talking of America, | :10:24. | :10:24. | |
let's find out what should be making the business headlines | :10:25. | :10:30. | |
over there today. We're not going to Michelle a New | :10:31. | :10:42. | |
York, we are going to you, Sally. Let's introduce Richard Dunbar. The | :10:43. | :10:50. | |
end of the first quarter and everyone is trying to assess how it | :10:51. | :10:56. | |
went. It was quite a turbulent one, especially January? Investors have | :10:57. | :11:06. | |
swung from gloom to optimism as we exit the quarter. In February, there | :11:07. | :11:10. | |
were worries and the US economy. We were worried about a precipitous | :11:11. | :11:16. | |
fall in the oil price, that has been abated because it has risen by 30%. | :11:17. | :11:21. | |
We were worried about China, which while it hasn't got any better, | :11:22. | :11:26. | |
probably hasn't got any worse. It has resulted in significant moves on | :11:27. | :11:32. | |
the markets. The fundamentals haven't changed. We're getting the | :11:33. | :11:41. | |
purchasing manager's index, it is look forward from the people who | :11:42. | :11:46. | |
ordered the raw materials to make this stuff. It is probably not | :11:47. | :11:52. | |
likely to be a very good number. No improvement on China. America | :11:53. | :11:57. | |
worsening? I don't think I have ever seen a swing in view on a large | :11:58. | :12:01. | |
economy like America, based on so little information. Janet Yellen | :12:02. | :12:07. | |
must be scratching their head, looking at similar numbers than | :12:08. | :12:10. | |
before and wondering right market investors have swung from room to | :12:11. | :12:14. | |
optimism based on little change in front of them. We will see what the | :12:15. | :12:21. | |
second quarter holds, UK referendum in the second quarter? Which will be | :12:22. | :12:26. | |
of interest. But other factors have more influence. We will watch this | :12:27. | :12:29. | |
space and Richard is coming back. We'll be hearing from | :12:30. | :12:36. | |
the boss of Eurostar. With flat passenger numbers, | :12:37. | :12:40. | |
can the high-speed rail service encourage more people | :12:41. | :12:42. | |
to cross the Channel? You're with Business | :12:43. | :12:44. | |
Live from BBC News. More on the steel industry crisis in | :12:45. | :12:51. | |
the UK. Prime Minister David Cameron | :12:52. | :12:57. | |
is hosting crisis talks on the UK steel industry amid mounting | :12:58. | :12:59. | |
pressure on ministers to guarantee the future of the Port Talbot | :13:00. | :13:01. | |
steelworks and its 5,500 staff. Ben is in Salford looking | :13:02. | :13:04. | |
at what options the UK Government has to support the British | :13:05. | :13:07. | |
steel industry. Am I right by saying the UK | :13:08. | :13:16. | |
Government has pretty much ruled out any type of nationalising? | :13:17. | :13:20. | |
Absolutely right. We have been talking about the implications of | :13:21. | :13:26. | |
the UK steel industry after the announcement that Tata wants to sell | :13:27. | :13:33. | |
off its UK steel industry. The government will try to come up with | :13:34. | :13:36. | |
the plan to safeguard some of those jobs if they can. It has been | :13:37. | :13:42. | |
shrinking industry since the 70s. Since its peak in 1972, it employed | :13:43. | :13:48. | |
200,000 people. Last year, it was 16,000 people. Nonetheless, 16,000 | :13:49. | :13:54. | |
jobs is still a significant number and they need to be safeguarded. | :13:55. | :13:59. | |
What options for the government? They have ruled out nationalisation, | :14:00. | :14:05. | |
so there are options like taking an equity stake and a management | :14:06. | :14:08. | |
buyout, weather management take on the firm and run it for themselves. | :14:09. | :14:14. | |
What could happen? The manufacturers organisation have been talking me | :14:15. | :14:16. | |
through some of the potential options. If it does mean the | :14:17. | :14:22. | |
government intervenes and gives a package of support up until the | :14:23. | :14:26. | |
point a buyer is found and then incentivised the buyer to take it | :14:27. | :14:30. | |
on, then the government support, call it what you will, if it is part | :14:31. | :14:35. | |
nationalisation, so be it, but the issue is to find a future buyer and | :14:36. | :14:41. | |
get this purchase over the line and ensure sustainable steel | :14:42. | :14:44. | |
manufacturer. Not only in South Wales but in other plants around the | :14:45. | :14:47. | |
UK. The issue is whether the government can do enough in time. | :14:48. | :14:54. | |
There are concerns Tata want to sell these plants quickly and if it | :14:55. | :14:58. | |
cannot find a buyer, it will simply shut them down. One option is to | :14:59. | :15:03. | |
mothball the site. Run them down, keep on a minimal number of staff | :15:04. | :15:07. | |
with the view perhaps of somebody wanting to come in and make them | :15:08. | :15:11. | |
viable at a later date. A number of options on the table but no | :15:12. | :15:15. | |
information they may take. It is a nervous wait for the staff who are | :15:16. | :15:22. | |
employed there. Plenty more detail, do take a look online when you have | :15:23. | :15:23. | |
time. Our top story: Europe | :15:24. | :15:27. | |
holds emergency talks on making its airports safer, | :15:28. | :15:29. | |
amid growing concern Crossing the English Channel has | :15:30. | :15:31. | |
become easier over the years thanks to Eurostar's high-speed trains, | :15:32. | :15:40. | |
which began service between the UK and Continental Europe | :15:41. | :15:42. | |
more than 20 years ago. Founded in 1994, the | :15:43. | :15:51. | |
company has carried more Eurostar reported profits | :15:52. | :15:55. | |
of $49 million in 2015. This figure was down | :15:56. | :16:05. | |
from the previous year. The company says | :16:06. | :16:09. | |
that the recent terror attacks has weighed on revenues and it had also | :16:10. | :16:13. | |
been forced to increase security as a result of the migrant crisis | :16:14. | :16:15. | |
currently affecting Europe. At the same time, they have invested | :16:16. | :16:26. | |
in a lot of new trains. Nicolas Petrovic is | :16:27. | :16:29. | |
Eurostar's chief executive. He's been in the role | :16:30. | :16:31. | |
since April 2010. Welcome to the programme. Can I get | :16:32. | :16:44. | |
something over because there's lots of things to talk about? Briefly, I | :16:45. | :16:48. | |
will let you get the good news out of the way, finally got the new | :16:49. | :16:52. | |
trains rolling and I've not seen them but apparently they're very | :16:53. | :16:55. | |
good. It's been a long time coming because you have been running some | :16:56. | :17:01. | |
pretty old stock. We love the new trains! We loved the original | :17:02. | :17:04. | |
trains, too but the new trains are amazing. We have just started them | :17:05. | :17:09. | |
and we have more comfort, Wi-Fi, blogs, more space in the seats and | :17:10. | :17:15. | |
it's been a big success. -- plugs. We can carry more passengers in peak | :17:16. | :17:19. | |
which as been problems in the last few years. At peak time, we were | :17:20. | :17:22. | |
four weeks in advance and we could not provide more seat when there was | :17:23. | :17:26. | |
demand. It is really good news for the business because that is how we | :17:27. | :17:30. | |
are going to grow the business further. Those trains at the moment, | :17:31. | :17:34. | |
nine new ones operating between London and Paris but the idea is you | :17:35. | :17:38. | |
can get on one of those to the other destinations, that is the ultimate | :17:39. | :17:44. | |
idea? Reds yes, we are starting with Paris because it is the biggest | :17:45. | :17:48. | |
route. But the trains can go to new destinations at the end of next | :17:49. | :17:51. | |
year, we will go all the way to Amsterdam with those trains which is | :17:52. | :17:54. | |
a big market for us. It is a big bear market. But also, we know that | :17:55. | :18:01. | |
when we offer a new route. -- a big bear market. Lots of people take the | :18:02. | :18:05. | |
Eurostar when we have any view because it is more, Bull. They won't | :18:06. | :18:10. | |
travel by air. It will be the same with Amsterdam. One of the reasons | :18:11. | :18:14. | |
people like those routes to Paris and eventually to Amsterdam embeds | :18:15. | :18:17. | |
of lying is because, let's be frank it is a hassle and given what we are | :18:18. | :18:21. | |
seeing in Brussels recently, it is likely going to be more of a hassle | :18:22. | :18:26. | |
at security but of course, you have security as well. I was wondering, | :18:27. | :18:30. | |
since the attacks in Paris and a recent attack in Brussels and the | :18:31. | :18:33. | |
bombs, have you revamped your security strategy at Eurostar? I | :18:34. | :18:40. | |
mean, no, the security has been at the top level for a long time now. | :18:41. | :18:46. | |
We screen people in the stations, a bit like in an airport. I think it | :18:47. | :18:52. | |
is one of the few rail services with that type of system. What has | :18:53. | :18:56. | |
happened is of course, in all public spaces in all the big cities in | :18:57. | :18:59. | |
Europe, there's a bigger police presence. Otherwise, we have not | :19:00. | :19:02. | |
really changed what we are doing. When things go and most of the time | :19:03. | :19:07. | |
they do, your passengers are very happy. -- when things go well. But | :19:08. | :19:12. | |
when things go wrong, like it did on Good Friday, it can be a disaster. I | :19:13. | :19:17. | |
just looked online to see what the latest news was about your | :19:18. | :19:21. | |
organisation and there was all this bad press about Good Friday in St | :19:22. | :19:26. | |
Pancras, hundreds of people penned in, for six and a half hours, saying | :19:27. | :19:29. | |
no one was told what was going on with a couple of cancellations | :19:30. | :19:33. | |
causing complete chaos. Surely that should not really happen in terms of | :19:34. | :19:36. | |
how it is handled and how people are looked after? Yes, I'm sure we could | :19:37. | :19:41. | |
have done better and I'm really sorry for the people involved. We | :19:42. | :19:48. | |
had a track problem so we had to only have one train out of London | :19:49. | :19:51. | |
and because the trains were so full, it was Good Friday, people had to | :19:52. | :19:56. | |
wait to be rebooked on the next train. We wanted them to travel that | :19:57. | :20:02. | |
day. We would offer that but for the ones, the last ones to travel, it | :20:03. | :20:06. | |
was a long wait and I'm really sorry for them. And also, with the new | :20:07. | :20:10. | |
trains, you can get many more people on but when it does go wrong, that's | :20:11. | :20:16. | |
900 people waiting, stuck. Exactly, and that is why we are investing a | :20:17. | :20:20. | |
lot in the stations at the moment to make them bigger. Paris will be the | :20:21. | :20:24. | |
first because it requires more capacity. And then we will invest in | :20:25. | :20:28. | |
London, just because the growth in the market is there. That is why we | :20:29. | :20:32. | |
got the trains, to grow the business. That is why we invest. I | :20:33. | :20:37. | |
want to get this in, the Germans are coming! They are watching you very | :20:38. | :20:42. | |
closely. I know they have delayed their start-up but they are coming | :20:43. | :20:48. | |
along the line. Apparently Deustchebahn is a very good | :20:49. | :20:50. | |
operation and it will give you competition, no doubt. Yes, it will | :20:51. | :20:55. | |
be competition but for me, the competition is more against | :20:56. | :20:59. | |
airlines. If Deustchebahn comes, it will be more publicity for the rail | :21:00. | :21:03. | |
link. For me, the big competition is, if you live in London, you can | :21:04. | :21:07. | |
go to so many city break destinations in Europe nowadays. If | :21:08. | :21:11. | |
you go to Paris, people will take the Eurostar and they can go to | :21:12. | :21:15. | |
Rome, Barcelona and so forth. That is where we are competing. | :21:16. | :21:20. | |
Interesting about city break. And quickly, a brief answer because we | :21:21. | :21:24. | |
are out of time, running this kind of operation, what keeps you awake | :21:25. | :21:28. | |
at night? You have the migrant crisis, people trying to get through | :21:29. | :21:31. | |
the tunnel, the possibility of a terrorist attack on a train. How do | :21:32. | :21:36. | |
you handle all of that on a personal level? Is it something you worry | :21:37. | :21:42. | |
about? How do you cope with that? You don't worry about things because | :21:43. | :21:46. | |
otherwise you can't act. You literally just have to be always on | :21:47. | :21:52. | |
the ball. As a company, we are trying to mitigate as much as | :21:53. | :21:55. | |
possible the risk because there is no zero risk in life. It is true | :21:56. | :21:59. | |
that at the moment, there are lots of things changing. In the past 12 | :22:00. | :22:06. | |
months, it has been a big sea change in Europe. We have two imagine the | :22:07. | :22:09. | |
best we can and I know we have very good teams and we are very well | :22:10. | :22:13. | |
organised which is why I'm relaxed! Thank you for joining us. Good to | :22:14. | :22:15. | |
have you on the show. France is braced for more strikes | :22:16. | :22:17. | |
and protests today over proposed reforms to | :22:18. | :22:20. | |
the country's labour laws. The Government wants an end | :22:21. | :22:21. | |
to the rigid 35-hour working week - the shortest in any European country | :22:22. | :22:26. | |
- which it says is helping keep Last week, the Cabinet agreed | :22:27. | :22:30. | |
to reforms where staff could be asked to work 48 hours in a week, | :22:31. | :22:37. | |
or even 60 in special circumstances, but only if they still average 35 | :22:38. | :22:41. | |
hours over a three-month period. Today's action looks set | :22:42. | :22:46. | |
to cause disruption to public services, public transport and even | :22:47. | :22:50. | |
TV services around the country. Today is the real big test for the | :22:51. | :23:04. | |
French labour law. The unions which oppose it have promised a big | :23:05. | :23:08. | |
turnout on the streets and if they can bring the numbers out, they have | :23:09. | :23:11. | |
still got a chance to put pressure on the government to change the text | :23:12. | :23:16. | |
yet again. Let's not forget, the government has already substantially | :23:17. | :23:22. | |
watered down this bill. The aim of the reform to the labour code was to | :23:23. | :23:25. | |
make it easier, less scary for companies to take on staff. At the | :23:26. | :23:29. | |
beginning, business in general was very much in favour. But since then, | :23:30. | :23:34. | |
the government has removed a lot of the key provisions, which has | :23:35. | :23:39. | |
angered business, without particularly satisfying the left and | :23:40. | :23:42. | |
the unions, which wants the whole thing completely scrapped. So the | :23:43. | :23:45. | |
government is getting it from both sides at this time, just when you | :23:46. | :23:50. | |
reminders are coming in of how desperately France needs reform. The | :23:51. | :23:54. | |
latest unemployment figures show that thereafter in .6 million | :23:55. | :24:01. | |
people, a record, out of work. -- there are 3.6 million. Other | :24:02. | :24:03. | |
countries in Europe have this problem and are winning, are | :24:04. | :24:05. | |
bringing down unemployment at not France. | :24:06. | :24:10. | |
Hugh Schofield keeping us up-to-date with how things are going in France. | :24:11. | :24:12. | |
Richard Dunbar, investment director at Aberdeen Asset Management | :24:13. | :24:14. | |
This is the Sydney morning Herald Digital life section, Microsoft's | :24:15. | :24:25. | |
artificial intelligence bot returns to Twitter and immediately goes off | :24:26. | :24:30. | |
the rails again. She has got a foul-mouthed! She has no idea of the | :24:31. | :24:35. | |
dos and don'ts of social media. Artificial intelligences everywhere, | :24:36. | :24:38. | |
in finance and medicine, has been one of the great new things and | :24:39. | :24:42. | |
Microsoft things it can be a great thing on Twitter. Artificial | :24:43. | :24:44. | |
intelligence learns from the people around it. But she is not learning! | :24:45. | :24:50. | |
Well you say that budgies obviously learning but from the wrong people. | :24:51. | :24:54. | |
How to smoke marijuana apparently. Orange Micro last week, she made | :24:55. | :24:57. | |
sexist and racist comments and this week she sent a spam attack to her | :24:58. | :25:01. | |
new friends. I do know if this is thought of as a success. Is she | :25:02. | :25:05. | |
learning from those around her or is she reflecting them? I don't know. | :25:06. | :25:12. | |
The viewers have got in touch about this very quickly. "Both Human and | :25:13. | :25:16. | |
artificial intelligence should, meant each other for efficiency". | :25:17. | :25:20. | |
Thank you very much for all of your tweet even though we don't have time | :25:21. | :25:25. | |
to mention them. Samsung are being seeded by Pele because they used a | :25:26. | :25:31. | |
lookalike. Tells you what companies do when they don't like the price so | :25:32. | :25:36. | |
Pele's price was obviously too high but it shines a light on image | :25:37. | :25:39. | |
rights for footballers and gives you an idea of the value of footballers | :25:40. | :25:42. | |
and why big clubs are willing to pay so much for them. Pele is suing for | :25:43. | :25:48. | |
$30 million and apparently it's all about getting the right lawyers so | :25:49. | :25:51. | |
they can make their trunk of change as well. | :25:52. | :25:53. |