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This is Business Live from BBC News, with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Volkswagen set to announce it's buying back

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around half a million diesel cars in the US.

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It will also pay over $1 billion in compensation

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Live from London, that's our top story today, Thursday 21st April.

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VW makes a deal with US authorities after rigging emissions tests,

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but who gets what and when is still to be determined.

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And other car-maker in the headlines for fiddling its tests, Mitsubishi

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officers raided by authorities after admitted falsifying data. Their

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shares were not traded at all, they fell so much yesterday. Their shares

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have slumped more than 30% since the story first broke. And the science

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behind making milk taste better, one firm says it is all about the type

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of protein, and with shares up nearly 200%, visit the cat who got

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the cream? It is certainly milking the market in China. We will speak

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to the boss. And are you fed up with upgrading your phone, tablet or

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computer - there is a growing movement of people pitching new

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technology and making the old trusty device last longer. Are you an

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upgrade junkie or rely on traditional technology? Get in

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touch. Volkswagen is trying to draw a line

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under the torrid affair that saw it rig emissions tests

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around the world, by fitting 11 million diesel cars

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with cheat devices. Last year, apologies came thick and

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fast after it used a cheat device to flatter test results. The dealers

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said to cost the car-maker over $1 billion, although how much each

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owner would get is still to be finalised. Volkswagen is expected to

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give more details of the deal to a federal judge later today. In March,

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the judge gave VW until today to announce concrete proposals for

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getting the polluting vehicles off the roads. Sally.

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With me is Catherine Hutt, from the automotive and transport

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Nice to see you, Catherine Ben outlining the options open, with

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regards to VW fixing this situation, reports say they are going for

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buying back cars, what's the make of that? I think it is a really

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important step for VW to give the consumer choice. Consumers are

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really wanting that choice, and it is important for the industry as a

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whole that VW reaches an agreement, and we can move on and show a line

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under this. We also saw that the markets responded positively in the

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US, with the US base to VW shares up 6% on the announcement that they

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would reach a settlement, rather than going to a lawsuit. I think it

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is a positive step forward. What is also really important is, from an

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investor's point of view, uncertainty is the enemy, so it is

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not just the figure that is important of how much it will really

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cost, but also the time involved, because the longer this drags on,

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the more damage and is going to do. I think it is really positive news

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that we are hearing, that they will reach a settlement and we will get

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some clarity. I know you and said the big number is not necessarily

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the issue, we are weighing it up, some are saying it could be about

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$30 billion in terms of cost to VW, but overall how costly is this for

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Europe's biggest car-maker? A very strong brand in the car industry,

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everything, reputation, financials everything, reputation, financials

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et cetera? I think the figure we do not know yet, and time will tell, so

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we will have to wait and see on that front. In terms of how damaging it

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has been, I think that varies across the globe. You can see in the states

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that sales have dropped 10% in the last month, in one report, versus

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Europe where sales have dropped just 2% in the last month. Compare that

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to China, where sales have increased to 3.6% in the last month. And the

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impact on Volkswagen is really influenced by those figures, but it

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is not a one-to-one correlation, because Asia-Pacific and

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particularly China represents about 40% of Volkswagen sales globally, so

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that really helps them out and help them weather the storm, which is the

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production of sales in Europe, which accounts for about 35% of Volkswagen

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sales globally, talking about the Volkswagen Group. Although the 10%

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reduction in the US is painful to Volkswagen, actually the US only

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accounts for 10% of their global sales. So you can see how, yes, they

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are worse off in terms of the reduction in sales, but that growth

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in China is really helping them. Catherine, we appreciate your time.

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It would seem that VW could be weathering the storm, that is for

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sure. Staying with car emissions, Mitsubishi Motors is also in the

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spotlight after admitting improper testing of fuel efficiency. Its

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shares did not traded a in Japan because so many people wanted to

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upload the Mitsubishi Motors Stark, trading did not take place at all.

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It is quite complicated, in fact. Karishma Vaswani can explain, the

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stairs did not trade but still managed to fall? -- shares. It is

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quite a complex mechanism on the Tokyo stock exchange, but as we

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understand it, after having spoken to officials, there were so many

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sellers for the shares of Mitsubishi Motors, and buyers as well, but the

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price did not match up, Ben. Basically, the amount that the

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sellers wanted for their shares and the amount that the buyers were

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offering, there was no actual deal that was executed, so no shares

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traded in Mitsubishi Motors on the Tokyo stock exchange, but they still

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fell by 20%. That is as a result of a mechanism within the Tokyo stock

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exchange that, every three minutes, when there are no trade is being

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executed for this particular stock today, the shares are known to

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which is why you have ended up which is why you have ended up

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seeing 20% taken of Mitsubishi Motors shares. In total, that is

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about $2.5 billion of value from the company's share price, so quite a

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dramatic fall as a result of the announcement that we saw yesterday.

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Also, we have been hearing about raids at some of its plants, some of

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its officers, what is going on? Yes, well, the government has weighed in,

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as you would expect, it is the country's sixth largest auto-maker,

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so earlier today the transport ministry sent in a team of

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investigators to Mitsubishi Motors' plant, research centre in Nagoya to

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find out how the employees of the company went about falsifying this

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tyre pressure data, which then resulted in its ability to make some

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of its models, the mini car models, at the more fuel efficient than they

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actually are. The investigation is expected to last a week or so, and

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the government says it is a serious breach of trust between Mitsubishi

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Motors and consumers, and it is taking it extremely seriously. Watch

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this space, lots more comments to come from the government on this in

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the next couple of days. Karishma, as always, thank you for explaining

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that. Shares in Yum brands -

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the firm behind KFC and Pizza Hut - have jumped nearly 4%,

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after the company reported better than expected earnings

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for the first quarter. Its profits rose 8% in the three

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months to March, to $391m. Microsoft has said it is to stop

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manufacturing the Xbox 360 games In a blog post, Xbox boss

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Phil Spencer said gamers had completed more than 78 billion hours

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of play on the devices. Last year the firm enabled Xbox 360

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games to work on its successor, Mining firm Newmont

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has reported lower earnings blamed on weaker gold

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and copper prices. The US-based Newmont is the world's

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second-biggest gold miner, but says profit came

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in at $182 million, down from a year ago but still

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well ahead of expectations. The results were helped by higher

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production along with lower costs. Tokyo shares rose yesterday for the

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third successive session, but the rise in oil prices was helping.

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Mitsubishi fell 20% after admitting falsifying those fuel efficiency

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tests. It is Brent crude that is back up, in the early part of the

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day, trading down slightly, but nonetheless up on what we saw

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earlier in the week. A quick look at how Europe is looking, because in

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the UK some disappointment that jobless claims rose in March, but

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wage growth came in lower than expected too, but still ahead of

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inflation. That is the picture for the UK market, we will talk about

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that in more detail in a moment. Michelle Fleury has the details from

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Wall Street. The earnings release from General

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Motors may be overshadowed by other news in the automobile world,

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because this is the deadline for VW and US officials to reach a deal to

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get diesel cars that used software to evade US emissions laws off the

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road. Reuters is reporting that VW will offer to buy back almost

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500,000 diesel cars, while the German newspaper de Buit says that

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VW may be ready to pay each affected customer $5,000 each. -- Die Welt.

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Two big names in technology turned in their report card, Alphabet, the

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parent company of Google, reported its first numbers after the market

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close. And investors will want to hear from Microsoft about how its

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cloud computing business is doing and whether its third-quarter

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results were impacted by a stronger dollar.

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Jeremy Cooke is the chief economist at World First,

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what is grabbing your attention this morning, oil going up? Yes, whisper

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it, but we may be seeing a rise in prices, the meeting in Doha did not

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produce much, but we have come back from the lows in short order, and a

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lot of people are saying we may have put the bottom in oil prices as

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well. The key question is whether the rancour that we saw between

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Iran, Saudi Arabia and Russia spills over into supply, if tensions rise

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and supply contracts. Let's talk about the data we had in the UK,

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jobs and earnings, a surprise rise in an appointment, the first time in

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a long time, but earnings versus inflation, still above inflation,

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but not hugely. Not hugely impressive, and we talk about

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corporate reports, we said that revenue is vanity, profit is

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reality. If low unemployment for the UK is vanity, the reality is higher

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wages, and we're not seeing that at the moment. It is a seasonal thing,

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in February businesses do not pay large bonuses, banks for instance,

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so that may have taken the number lower, but it is something the Bank

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of England will be worried about if they are talking about high

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inflation. The ECB meeting, a nonevent this time? A little bit,

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after what Mario Draghi said last month, saying the policy was maybe

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at its lowest, the last time he said that, someone stormed the

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through glitter at him. Promises, promises! I will tune in, just in

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case. We're going to be talking

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about a company that's been moooving in on its milk

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producing rivals. A2 make a type of milk which thay

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say is better for us, and it's been We're going to be joined

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by their CEO after the break. You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. Heathrow Airport has just announced

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a boost in its first-quarter results thanks, it says Komla Dumor

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passengers and lower costs. Revenues were up by 3.2%, ?642 million. The

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chief executive of Heathrow Airport joins us now, good morning, another

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good year, another set of good figures, but still falling down the

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international league tables in terms of capacity and passenger numbers.

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It is frustrating, to say the least, is it not? We need to make a

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decision as quickly as possible about the future of this country. We

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are the fifth largest economy in the world, and we're not going to be for

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much longer unless we invest in our biggest port, and Heathrow is our

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biggest port, we handle over a quarter of UK exports. We are the

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only airport that gets business to all the growing airport in the

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world, but we are at capacity, and it is frustrating to DD French

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moving head, Paris has more long haul destinations than we have, and

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we need to make the right decision to secure the long-term future of

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this country. And we talked in our release about the capacity issues we

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have, it is not just about not enough roots, it is about trading

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capacity. Some of our key routes, like Tokyo, Shanghai, Beijing, are

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close to capacity, we cannot get more exports on those planes, and

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unless we expand Heathrow, that is not going to change. Now is the time

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for the Prime Minister to make the right decision to secure the future

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of Britain by expanding Heathrow. If they decide not to, what is your

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plan for the airport? We will keep on doing what we have been doing the

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last few years. We are currently rated the eighth best airport in the

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world. I want us to be the best airport in the world, giving

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passengers the best airport service. We are going to keep on working on

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that, serving Britain well. We will keep doing it at a lower cost as

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well, giving better value to passengers. Our job is to serve

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Britain. We can serve Britain better if we are a larger Heathrow, getting

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more of the cities and the regions of the UK with direct links into

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Heathrow, and onto 120 long haul destinations. That keeps Britain on

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the map. Thank you. in court in the US later today -

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it's thought they'll promise to buy back some of the 600,000

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diesel cars which had the emissions-cheating

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software installed. Some reports suggest

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they could spend over $1 billion Details coming into us about how

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that deal may work but no specific detail. How much individual

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consumers will get or when it will be paid. We will keep your cross

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that. Sure we pause for a little drink of milk?

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And now let's get the inside track on milk.

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The long held belief that people from Asia are intolerant to milk,

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is being slowly eroded as sales of dairy products across the area

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New Zealand has been cashing in on the change in tastes and now

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ranks as the world's largest dairy producer -

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One of the companies involved in the uplift is dairy company

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They believe that mass produced milk has, over time,

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lost what scientists call the A2 protein.

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They say that the milk we get now has got A1 protein, but that it's

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the A2 protein that they claim is better for us all.

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Demands for the company's infant formula has been particularly strong

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in China, where consumers have switched to products made

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in Australia or New Zealand after locally produced milk led

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the company's shares to rise by 189% since they began trading in Sydney

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He's the UK and China Chief Executive for A2 Milk Company,

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Good morning. We sort of explained what you would argue is your unique

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selling point, the fact that A2 Milk is full of protein? Yes, it is the

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only milk available that has the aid to protein. The difference that

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makes is that it does not have the A1 protein. That is associated with

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issues of digestion, making it difficult to digests. That can

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affect as many as 90% of the population in China. A recent trial

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announced yesterday has shown that the 90% lactose intolerant people of

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China are able to drink A2 Milk. It is the A1 protein causing the issue.

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Explain the process? It is the same cows eating the same staff. It is

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different what is coming out of their orders? Are you going to a

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herd of existing cows and DNA them. We farm the A2 Milk cows. It is

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genetics. Forgive my ignorance, but will this taste Andy different? We

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are going to try some now. People will not notice any difference. Talk

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smack through the change people may see in terms of cost? If your

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children have an issue with milk they could try this and they would

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not know they are trying a different man. It is fresh cow's milk. In

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terms of pricing, this is about ?1 39. -- 1.3 nine. About twice the

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price of normal milk. But we argue that milk is on the priced and

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undervalued. I am a family of five. We consume a lot of milk. One of my

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children had trouble with milk. I looked into other milks. I have

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never seen A2 Milk. I do not feel the strength of your presence in the

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UK and yet you are taking China by storm. That is presumably pushing up

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your profits and share price? We have only been in the UK a couple of

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years. We are relatively new. People struggle to find us sometimes. We

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are there. In Australia we have got a big share, growing significantly.

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The strength of that has gone into China. Chinese consumers have

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realised from talking to a friends that there is something out of there

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for them. They are buying it and taking from Australia. We have set

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up in China and are growing a strong business. Let's talk about the

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industry for milk. Here in the UK and many parts of Europe, we see

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supermarkets selling milk as a loss leader. Farmers are not getting what

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they should. We are also seeing a decline because there is a

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health-conscious move away from dairy towards different diets. You

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are seeing that correlated upswing in Asia. Does that compensate for a

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slowdown in Europe? The growth opportunities in Asia are enormous.

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China will overtake Europe next year as the biggest milk exporter. In

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Europe, we think a lot of the decline in Derry is due to

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misunderstanding. A lot of rumour and non-fact about milk is spread.

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-- dairy. People believing they are lactose intolerant means they do not

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go for milk in a way they could do. Something like this could enable

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them to drink milk again. Thank you for coming in, sharing the milk. I

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am treating this like a fine wine! Have you smelted? Yes, it smells

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good. There is some going in my coffee.

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In a moment, some of the other stories out of there. First, a quick

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reminder of how to be across it all. The businesslike pages where you can

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stay ahead with the breaking business news. We will keep you

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up-to-date with the latest details, with insight and analysis from the

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team of editors across the world. And we want to hear from you. Get

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involved on the BBC Business Live web page. You can find us on Twitter

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and on Facebook. Business Live on TV and online

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whenever you need to know. Jeremy has returned. Let's have a

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look at some of the stories. Starting with the international New

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York Times, which says choosing to skip the upgrade and care for the

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graduate -- gadget you have got. It is a PalmPilot he has got in his

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hand. Old technology. This is a story about people who, after a

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couple of years when their phone plan has, Kraupp renewal, holding

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onto what have got. -- coming up for renewal. Clearly this is not

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widespread but the problem is that many people now have a phone they

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are happy with. They will not upgrade between a five, six or

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seven. We are getting past the stage where you can open up a phone --

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draw in the kitchen and cross old phones. We have a picture of an old

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Bakelite telephone. He says if only my mobile had the stability of this.

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Matt says upgrading software can be tiring, especially if it happens

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every couple of days. It is sort of a work in progress all the time. You

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are constantly having to update and upgrade, rather than trust your

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reliable phone. Exactly. You have to be worried about the data charges as

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well. Briefly, the Daily Telegraph talking about Tata possibly going

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for a crowdfunding to rescue Port Talbot? Crowdfunding may be a

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difficult way. It is a management buyout and it is raising money from

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employees. Of the ?10,000 each. That seems steep. Whether you would want

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to split the ownership that wide within a steel plant among the

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employees remains to be seen. But certainly it is a new idea which can

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hopefully raise money for an ailing industry. Thank you for coming in.

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Some milk for you later. Thank you. We will see you soon. By bye-bye.

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Good morning. Some sunshine on offer today. But not for everybody. The

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skies are going to turn cloudy in the next 24 hours. We have already

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had some rain in south-western

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