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President Obama has made a powerful appeal for Britain to stay

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in the European Union, arguing that EU membership magnifies

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Live from London, that's our top story on the 22nd of April.

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President Obama writing in the Telegraph today doesn't shy

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away from arguing that Britain should vote to stay in the EU.

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We're going to be discussing that and the economic relationship

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Also in the programme: The co-founder of Apple has told

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the BBC that all companies should pay a far higher tax rate,

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adding that he doesn't like paying a higher tax rate than the company

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Shares of Japanese automaker Mitsubishi Motors are down

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Asian markets meanwhile have traded lower today, mirroring how US

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There is a basic look at what is happening on the European markets.

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And we'll be getting the inside track on the week's

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biggest tech stories with our very own tech guru,

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including Google's battle with the EU and less than stellar

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And on the day that one business body has admitted that

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executive pay is too high, we want to know if you think the way

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He meets David Cameron in Downing Street on Friday

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afternoon in what's expected to be his last visit to the UK

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He's already making waves, writing an article in the Telegraph

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newspaper supporting the case for the UK

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to remain within the EU in the country's

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But the global economy will be central to almost

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Earlier this month the IMF once again lowered its forecasts

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for the world economy for the year from 3.4% to 3.2%.

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Countering an increasingly assertive Russia will also be on the agenda.

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The US is keen for Cameron and other EU leaders to maintain sanctions

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targeted at Russia's state finances, energy and arms sectors,

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which have played a role in the Russian economy spending more

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And then there's the debate on Britain's membership of the EU.

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Writing in the Daily Telegraph Mr Obama said the UK had benefitted

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from being inside the EU in terms of jobs, trade and financial growth.

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Several senior UK politicians bluntly telling the president

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in an open letter that "matters of sovereignty are best left

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With me now is Tom Packer, Fellow of the Rothermere American Institute

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Great to have you. Both Jamie and I wondering why President Obama is in

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Britain. We can understand Saudi Arabia, Germany, central to the

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eurozone crisis, is he here... He says he is here for the Queen's

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birthday but he is here for Brexit? That is my view. I am sure he would

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have said happy birthday to the Queen but he does not have to be

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here to see it. Not with a full representation of his own party. The

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biggest thing to emphasise as I would not emphasise how much

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Americans are focusing on the Brexit debate. President Obama speaks for

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himself and a number of Democrats listening and for the State

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Department. He does not speak for the whole American political

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establishment so Senator Cruz was sending much more positive about

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Brexit the other day. What is in it for him or the US? Why is he doing

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this? It is not just a favour for David Cameron? Absolutely not. One

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multilateral organisations which is multilateral organisations which is

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a key part of President Obama's political creed. The US for half a

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century has wanted us in the EU because they see us as a pro-US

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voice in the European Union. Liking multinational institutions, they

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have been saying recently they like to do trade goals with blocks, with

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a transatlantic trade partnership. Wooden they not be prepared to deal

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with the UK on its own? There is a degree of unpredictability but I

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would be surprised if the US did not do a deal with the UK. They have

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often found it easier to do deals with countries like Australia. Apart

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from all of that, there is a lot on the agenda. How big is Russia?

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Central to the US to make sure David Cameron and Britain are onside and

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the EU to keep the sanctions up. Well there might be talking about

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the IMF? I don't they will be talking about the global forecasts.

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If we were not on the same page on Russia it may be an issue but I do

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not think there are serious disagreements between the two

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governments. Thank you. Compaq from the University of Oxford.

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In other news: Earnings at Google's parent company Alphabet have

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disappointed the markets, despite a 20% increase

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in profits in the first three months of the year.

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Analysts were unhappy that the average price of online

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ads, known as cost-per-click, fell by 9% in the quarter.

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Revenues at the world's second largest company rose to over

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$20 billion, but that didn't stop its shares

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Shares in Starbucks also fell 5% after it also missed revenue

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The coffee chain's earnings came in slightly under analysts

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Demand in the US, as well as solid sales in Asia, helped to offset

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slow growth in Europe but still missed

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Uber has agreed to pay $100 million after a class suit. The keys could

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threaten the taxi hailing app's business model.

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PSA Peugeot Citroen offices have been raided by anti-fraud

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investigators as part of ongoing investigations on pollutants

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The firm said its vehicles are emissions compliant.

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Authorities and car manufacturers have been on the alert in the wake

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of the Volkswagen emissions scandal, which emerged in late September.

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And I guess the Mitsubishi scandal as well. When was the last time we

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spoke about the Greek debt crisis? It has been going on so long.

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They are gathering in Amsterdam. Funny that, on a Friday! The

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discussion is still going to be around, $360 billion is the debt

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mountain that Greece is sitting on. It is unrealistic for Athens to pay

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that back. The IMF has still not joined in?

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We are in the third bailout. This is to get the second chunk. They are

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reviewing. I am more interested in this story. I am going to come back

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to that. The ECB, we could be seeing more negative interest rates.

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Mitsubishi Motors' fuel economy scandal has broadened as US

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regulators said they were looking into reports that the carmaker

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submitted misleading data on at least one more

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Mitsubishi's share price has fallen to a new low.

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Give us the latest. To give you an idea of how much damage it has done

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to Mitsubishi's market value, before the scandal it was 864 yen and two

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days later it has claws that 560 yen, so $3 billion wiped off the

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market value. That may be the start of its troubles. US regulators

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seeking more information on whether more models are involved,

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specifically those sold in the US, and the Japanese transport minister

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said he may push Mitsubishi motors to buy back the cars involved.

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Inevitable lawsuits and fines, Mitsubishi looking at paying out a

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lot more for some time to come. The markets are doing reasonably well.

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The main feature has been the oil price yet again. When the oil price

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goes up stocks generally go up and when the oil price goes down stocks

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generally go down. That is what is happening at the moment. Slightly

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affected by the problems Mr -- at Mitsubishi. The biggest three

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default that stock has had since 1988. The Nicky managing to bridge

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that to one side and make a small gain. We have had the oil price

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moving up which has helped that market. The oil price did a strange

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thing yesterday, gained and then fell after lunch, fell off a

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relatively small cliff. Largely because there was a strike in Kuwait

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that was called off which meant that supply was going. People coming back

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about fundamentals and demand. All the other markets in Europe doing

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pretty much the same thing. Our reporter has the details about

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what's ahead on Wall Street Today. At Microsoft higher than expected

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taxes meant the company missed expectations. Without those taxes it

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did quite well reporting a $5 billion profit as its business

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continues to see strength. This Friday we should get a sense of how

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American consumers are spending their money when McDonald's and

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American Airlines report their first-quarter profits. Another

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bellwether for the US economy General Motors might offer details

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about its transformation into a ditch till industrial company when

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it turns on its first quarter results.

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Joining us is Mike Amey, managing director and portfolio

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I want to talk about oil. The oil price came off a little bit.

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It came up and went down at the end of the strike incomplete. The oil

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widening the dock of the equity market.

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It seems to be. Generally speaking the markets have shrugged it off.

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The general assessment is it is difficult to get a deal between the

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Saudis and the Iranians. Would you buy shares in oil at the moment? In

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our view we think we have seen a lot of the move. No? I do not think so.

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I think we have seen most of the movement we are going to see. One of

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the reasons the FTSE is up is because these stocks have moved

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already and I would argue they are not going to go lower. The challenge

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we have at the moment in commodities, stock markets in

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general, they tell you that we have had a decent bones after volatility

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but we are at relatively high levels and less growth can accelerate. The

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Greek debt crisis. The IMF is in its third bailout deal. It is in the

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lending because it has lent them a lot of money. It has not lent them

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any extra money by they want to get men on the money out of they have

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already linked. Very much on the table. You are going to take us

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through the newspapers. Later. And we will be looking back at a bad

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week for Google as they battle the EU over their android platform

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and release some less You're watching Business

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Live from BBC News. The UK government has announced

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it is willing to take a 25% stake in any rescue

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of Tata Steel's UK operations. The business department said

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it was preparing to make a support package "worth hundreds of millions

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of pounds" available Business Secretary Sajid Javid said

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the money would be offered on commercial terms,

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but the government would not take What does business make

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of the announcement? Terry Scuoler is Chief Executive

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of the manufacturers Terry, what do you think of this

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particular deal? It is a positive offer. I applauded. Hundreds of

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millions of pounds of commercial possibly soft loans. Allegedly

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millions of pounds worth of grant aid. And co-owning the business up

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to a level of 25%. One would think this would strongly encourage a

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potential buyer to come forward. Is it a little bit too little too late?

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We could always look back and think about what should have been done and

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could have been done. A number of governments could be accused of not

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doing enough. But for the stake -- sake of the steel sector and those

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communities in South Wales, let's concentrate on finding a buyer

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within a reasonable time frame... That is the point, isn't it? Who is

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going to want to buy, really? It is a very good question. But look back

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over history. There is plenty of money out there in various forms of

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funds. There are business leaders out there who invariably do come

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forward, take the distressed assets and have a fighting chance of

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turning them around. I am pretty convinced that there is a buyer out

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there. But the buyer needs to be found.

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You are keen to show this. This was in the FT. It is how to spend

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magazine. Can you see that outfit? Six grand. ?6,000 for the outfit. A

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mere bagatelle. Jamie has already got two!

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You're watching Business Live - our top story.

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of a visit to Britain, President Obama has repeated his

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support for the country remaining in the European Union.

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His intervention comes ahead of a British referendum

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Mr Obama says membership of the EU magnifies Britain's influence.

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It's been another big week in the world of technology,

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with the EU investigation into Google's Android operating

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system, the big job losses at Intel coupled with ARM results,

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and possibly the Netflix story - shares dropped after Amazon launched

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You are curious about that outfit. I could see you in it. My wife said

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there is an FT special on men's fashion, and that I should take it

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with me! Google, what a hell of a week. Alphabet, numbers... What do

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we make? Very interesting. The numbers would be pretty good by any

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the level you. Revenues of $20 billion. They did not hit their

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targets. Wall Street never likes that. A worrying rise in costs. It

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is basically the move to mobile. Everyone is moving to mobile. Google

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has been pretty successful in moving its advertising operation to mobile.

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That is costing more than Wall Street expected. I love this

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division of alphabet. Basically, this is the stuff they splurge money

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on, which may make money one day down the track. It includes things

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like self driving cars. A business they board for a $3 million a few

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years ago. Smart thermostats for your home. All of that appears to be

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going not terribly well. I have been aware of this story before. Looking

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at their share price, over the past year it has gone from 550 to 750.

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People have not lost confidence in this company. Some of those bets

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will come off? Undoubtedly. What you say about the share price is

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interesting. When a share price gets that... It is predicated on big

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growth and on some of those bets coming off. If they do not come off,

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share price dips. I want to get Internet flicks. The investigation.

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Europe seems like it is going through Google's blood. This is a

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long-running battle much like the battle the EU had with Microsoft. A

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very important front because it is about android. Google's future lies

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in Mobile. That is where a lot of its revenues will come from in the

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future. They are being investigated as well? That has been going on

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since 2010. We may be near a verdict on that one. A big battle about

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streaming video, the future. Net flicks, one of the hot stories of

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recent years, just a little blip this week when Amazon made it clear

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it was going to punch a bit harder in that field, separating the Google

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service from the Amazon Prime service. A few questions about the

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share price. Is it predicting endless growth when it may not come.

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Always a pleasure. Have you heard what Steve Wozniacki told the BBC?

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He wants to pay more tax. You can watch it right now.

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The co-founder of tech giant Apple has told the BBC that he thinks

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businesses should pay fairer tax - Ben caught up with him.

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Do you worry the company you found it has moved so far away from its

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founding principles that it is now looking to actively pay less tax? If

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you make money you should pay some money to government on it. We knew

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we would be a worldwide company. We just assumed we would pay taxes on

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it. Maybe the tax rates are different for a company than a

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person, which is something that bothers me to this day. I look at

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any company that is a public company, it has to be as profitable

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as possible. That means financial people studying the laws of the

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world and figuring out what is technically legal. You you have any

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power to change things? I do not think it would be right for me to

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try to influence how Apple handles it. I would have no effect anyway.

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They are going to take the last thing that saves a penny.

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We are going to do a story about pay. We are going to look at some of

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the other interesting stories. There you are!

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Mike Amey, the managing director and portfolio manager at Pimco,

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Business leaders are saying it is down to directors. Senior executives

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are potentially getting paid too much, according to the Institute of

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Directors. One, there is potentially a disconnect between the performance

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of some companies and the pay of the senior executives. My read of this

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is that it is pretty clear there is a challenge out there. If you have

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these pay packages over three to five years, you can get some bizarre

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situations where somebody's pay could be very large in a year when

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the stock price could be down. What did you think about Martin Sorrell

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getting ?7 million from BP? We do not actually own single stocks. We

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on them via certain other routes. We did not vote in either of those.

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When we rank any company, you rank corporate governance alongside

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performance of the stock. There are some classic examples of corporate

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governance. Volkswagen, for example. The way we think about it is an

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aggregate of corporate governance rather than building an independent

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pay packages. The south on the morning post. This is Beijing's

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answer to the Panama papers. Skynet one was last year. This year is

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Skynet two. Broadly speaking it is an attempt to track money that might

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have left the country via certain securities routes. -- circulators.

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This has probably been triggered by the Panama situation. This is the

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second time they have done this. Generally speaking you do that when

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you're reasonably comfortable economy is on an even keel and you

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can focus on corruption. We have to talk about Prince.

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Legend? Was he the music of your life? If I am completely honest with

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you, David Bowie for me was the man. I am still morning only. Great

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performer. Front page of a lot of the newspapers is a classic concert

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where he performs Purple Rain in the rain at the Super Bowl.

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You cannot get better. What about you?

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Bowie, I'm afraid. Always a pleasure. Have a great weekend.

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There will be more business news throughout the day on the BBC Live

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A little taste of winter in the next few days. An echo of winter. It will

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not be that cold. There is air coming all the way from the Arctic,

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so

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