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This is Business Live from BBC News with Victoria Fritz

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narrows its losses as it largest producer of steel,

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of a collapse in worldwide demand for the metal.

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Live from London, that's our top story on Friday 6th May.

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ArcelorMittal's first-quarter profit dropped 33%, as the world's biggest

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steelmaker has contended with slumping prices of the material

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the markets where Japanese markets the markets where Japanese markets

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have seen investors turning their focus to the closely watched US job

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numbers later. I will gather myself to stop

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Our Economics Correspondent Andrew Walker will be here to give us stop

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the inside track on some of the big business stories of the week,

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including the latest on US jobs due out later today.

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And time is money as the old saying goes, Facebook has 50 minutes

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we want to know from you, do you give them 50 minutes? Let us know.

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The world's largest producer of steel, ArcelorMittal,

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has posted a 33% fall in profits in its first quarter to $416m.

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We'll have more on that in a moment, but the past few years has seen

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Here are the reasons why: As you can see from this graph showing one

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of the most commonly traded types of steel, rebar,

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the price has been hit by oversupply, cheap raw materials

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You will just have to trust me. There you are, the red line I was

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looking for. China produces half of the world's

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steel, more than the United States, the European Union,

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Russia and Japan combined. But demand for steel in China has

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shrunk for the first time in a generation as economic growth

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has slowed and policy makers have tried to steer

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the economy toward consumption. Declining sales at home have

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seen mills in China ship record volumes overseas,

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with China accused of dumping steel on foreign markets,

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or selling it for less than it Jason Kaplan is a steel expert

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with IHS Purchasing Service. Great to have you in the studio. Can

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I stuff, Victoria then with the graphics, making it seems we talk

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about the doom and gloom but that little Arctic, what was behind that?

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??HOTKEY craziness from China again. Everybody believes there is not

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enough stock and they are ordering materials and the first time you can

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buy it on an exchange. Not only is this not holding but in fact these

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steel mills are suddenly saying, we need more. It is craziness. I guess

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there were no surprises with the numbers from ArcelorMittal. When we

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look at the oil industry they are falling off a cliff. My own

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wandering what of the ones that are doing better than the ones

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doing worse are not doing? ArcelorMittal is actually one of the

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better ones. The US steel mills are doing considerably worse. Their

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success is really about geographic focus on India. One of the stronger

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markets. They also go back into iron ore. They are benefiting from

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low-cost throughout the supply chain. I want to ask about results

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we have seen today, losses narrowing slightly. The net debt in

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quarter has actually risen to over $7 billion. This seems to be a real

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structural weakness in the entire industry, the whole commodities

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sector really. Yes it is. That is the thing that is hampering and

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precipitating the Tata Steel demise. ArcelorMittal recently did another

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rights issue to keep things going. We have two wrap it up but is still

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price bottoming out? We think so. Upwards from now. Good on you.

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In other news... News Corp, the media giant

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controlled by Rupert Murdoch, has seen revenues fall 7.3%

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in the first three months of the year -

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amid a decline in advertising sales in the print media.

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It's the fifth drop in quarterly revenue in a row and was

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It's also been hit by the strong dollar which dented its

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News Corp lost $149m in the three months to March -

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after a big one-off charge to settle monopoly claims at its in-store

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The former owner of UK retailer British Home Stores,

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Sir Philip Green, has hit back at the politician responsible

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for looking into the collapse of the high street chain.

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Sir Phillips says that Frank Field, chairman of the Work

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and Pensions committee- should resign.

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His comments come after Mr Field recommended stripping the former BHS

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owner of his knighthood if he did not repay ?571m

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North Korea's ruling Workers' Party will open its first full

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Foreign reporters have been allowed in, to witness a display of national

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unity, but their movements are closely managed.

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Our Korea correspondent, Steve Evans, is among them

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That the building behind me, just across the square,

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In front of it, you probably can't see it, but there are rows and rows

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of buses which have bussed in the delegates.

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And right around the perimeter of the building there are men

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standing absolutely stock still, all with umbrellas.

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And those, we are told, are Kim Jong Un's personal guards.

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That is the way you tell he's in there.

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If you ask anybody what is going on they say, we don't know.

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What we assume is happening is that we are being called

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What we assume is happening is that we are being corralled

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here while Kim Jong Un is in there speaking and we presume

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we will go in and see the remainder of the proceedings.

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This thing is important because it is happening.

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Technically it is the body which runs North Korea but it is not

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Its significance we think is that Kim Jong Un is cementing his hold

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on power, it is his way of appearing to the nation,

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though it is not currently going out live on TV but no

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It is him cementing his position in the nation as the man in charge.

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What we don't know is whether there will also be some kind

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of policy announcement, a big signal of a change in policy,

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perhaps a liberalisation of the economy or something like that.

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Stocks in Japan dropped, and the yen strengthened as trading

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Caution dominated the mood in other Asian markets ahead

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They suffered their worst weekly loss since February.

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This is how the trading day is opening up across Europe.

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Markets have been open about 40 minutes now.

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Italian banks firmly in focus in Europe.

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Provisions for bad loans fell to a four year low.

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Michelle Fleury in New York has the details on those

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Has the US economy gained enough momentum to continue creating jobs

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We will find out in a few hours' time.

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The US Labor Department releases its latest

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Wall St will be watching closely to see how the

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data may influence the outcome of June's rate-setting policy meeting.

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Economists are predicting 202,000 jobs were created last month, and

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the unemployment rate is expected to remain unchanged at 5%.

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There are two things particularly to look out for.

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The first is the number of Americans searching for work,

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also known as the labor participation rate.

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The job prospects have improved and that figure has gone up.

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The other number to watch is wage growth, which, well, it's been

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Richard Jeffrey, Chief Investment Officer

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Always good to see you. Thanks for popping by. Let's stay with the US,

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not so much about the detail, what about the market focus? Earlier in

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the year it seemed like there was not so much focus on the markets, it

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was more inflation, salary growth, are the markets focused on these

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numbers today? Earlier in the year the markets were looking

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internationally because that is what was influencing the Fed. What tends

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to happen is that people initially look at the jobless numbers which

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hits the headline and then they start to analyse the detail. I think

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the detail is the labour cost, the average hourly earnings. I disagree,

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I think there is some sign of more wage inflation coming from the

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Saints. That is why the markets will be sensitive. That comes into the

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reaction function for the Federal reserve, it starts to think about

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wage infection picking up solution to warrant interest rates going up.

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The markets look forward and we have just had a whole slew of data

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surveys coming out from purchasing managers right across the world and

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they are fairly uniformly week. We are seeing rhetoric from central

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bankers that suggests things are a bit better. Why do we have this

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disconnect and who should we trust? You have to be careful about

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overanalysing monthly changes in any economic financial series. You love

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the purchasing managers surveys but actually I would say rather

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the purchasing managers surveys being week I would say they were

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dull. World growth is relatively dull but that is safe, when it is

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exciting, the stuff you like, it is unsafe cost of going too fast. I

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think the numbers are OK at the moment. I would not want to see them

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get much weaker but at the moment we are seeing a little volatility, some

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a bit weaker than expected, but I think the key is that after a poor

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first quarter in the US economy, which was probably related to some

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statistical seasonal adjustment problems, I think we will see a

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rebound in the second quarter and that is what visual banks are

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looking at. You are a glass half full bloke. That is the one. Best to

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be that way. You will come back and take us through the papers. Talk to

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you shortly. You Still to come: What is the future

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You for the Transatlantic Trade Our Economics Correspondent Andrew

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Walker will be here to tell us more. You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. Despite being surrounded by water,

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many people feel the UK doesn't currently make the most

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of its natural resources - Mark Shorrock says he's ready

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to change that and start building a tidal lagoon in Swansea Bay

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which could generate 8% I wonder how much power you think

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you can generate. What we can do, this island nation of ours gets a

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vast body of water coming out of the Atlantic notion into the Severn

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River and Liverpool Bay. -- Advanta Goshen. About eight metres- 12

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metres of tidal range, you could get 10% of our electricity by harnessing

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a series of tidal lagoons, filling and emptying man-made tidal lagoons

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around the coast. How does this around the coast.

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alternative energy generator compared to others already in play?

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One of the key things is, the way the water flows around Great

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Britain, the times change. When you have tidal lagoons in the Severn

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estuary, and they are off, tidal lagoons in Liverpool are on. So you

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have 24-hour generation, you always know when the tide will be rising

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and falling. They are stacked around the country. The big comparisons

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with wind and nuclear, but intervals of offshore wind and nuclear, tidal

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power will be cheaper than both. In terms of certainty, we know exactly

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in any year in the future when we will be generating for how long on

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any day. Price-wise we expect tidal power to be the cheapest possible

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source of power for the UK. It will last a very long time, if we build a

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tidal lagoon in Swansea Bay it will still be there in 120 years. Thank

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you for your time, Mark. This sounds fascinating. Did you know, one

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quarter of all UK workers not only want to take off for the weekend,

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they want out altogether? I am surprised it is just one quarter.

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Job satisfaction at the lowest for two years.

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People saying they feel very insecure.

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This is Business Live. ArcelorMittal's profit for the first

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three months of this year dropped 33%, with the slump in prices of the

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material, steel prices have gone straight down. Let's get more on the

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US jobs numbers, we've them all morning. They are coming

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out later today and implement is predicted to rise again and how will

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that affect the Federal Reserve's thinking when it comes to setting

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rates. One person with some insight into that is Robert Kaplan, the

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President of the Federal Reserve bank of Dallas and one of the people

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who sits on the big table of the Federal Reserve and

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least looks at what direction US interest rates should go and here is

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what he has to think. My own view is we know

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the consumer's capacity to spend in the United States

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is getting stronger. You know, their incomes,

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the job market is strong, wealth, home prices,

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so then the question is, is it political uncertainty,

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is it the financial turmoil Our own judgment is you will

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see a rebound at some point in the second

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quarter in consumer spending, and we still believe GDP growth

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will be 2% this year. Robert Kaplan is optimistic, Andrew,

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he is optimistic, reasonably. 2%, remember, in the context of a

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disappointing side in terms of disappointing side

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economic growth, it is OK, but over the longer period it is not grateful

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stop the US's economy long-term trend has been higher than that. Is

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he right to expect a rebound? Probably, yes. There is an

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expectation of a rebound, Richard mentioned seasonal adjustment

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issues, the US economy has had a pattern

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first quarter of the year, which raises the question, they do have

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the statistical techniques for smoothing out routine seasonal

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fluctuations and maybe there is a debate about whether the methods

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they are using are no longer up to the task and not capturing what is

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going on in the first quarter. Nonetheless, it was a weak figure,

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the signs are it will get better in the second quarter. Inters talk

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about what is going on with TTIP, the transatlantic trade investment

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love it on this programme, will it partnership. We love that! We all

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love it on this programme, will it happen, won't it? It has been a

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terrible week for the negotiators, first of all we had Greenpeace the

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environmental campaign group releasing documents which they

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the negotiations and they said it business in what they regard

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the negotiations and they said it pointed to their concerns about the

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deal leading to lower standards of consumer protection, environmental

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protection, health protection and so forth. So that was certainly a bad

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start to the week. French officials, including

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President Holland himself saying the deal potentially on the table as it

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stands would not be accessible -- President Hollande. You could argue

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Donald Trump's success is another setback because he has focused his

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trade rhetoric on other things, the transpacific partnership, Mexico,

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China, but it is a fair bet he would be at least a little sceptical.

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There are a lot of people in the states who don't like his trade

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deals but I'm along the lines of this is not going to happen, is it?

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President Obama wants to get it done before his term is over, the clock

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is ticking and the Europeans are not that much in favour anymore. If it

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doesn't get pushed before Obama is out, let's be frank, the way it is

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looking Donald Trump goes in, it is a done deal, not a done deal, it is

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out of I do think we can say that but we

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can save Hillary Clinton is also not a huge fan. Regardless of what

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happens. There are two questions, they get the legal agreement done

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before President Obama steps down, there are quite a lot of technical

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issues. Both sides have said they are committed to making the effort

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to get it done but both sides say it is important to get the right deal

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rather than just any deal by the deadline. Even if it is

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be ratified by the US Congress. With whoever is in Congress, with whoever

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is in the White House that is going to be really tough. I think perhaps

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little over doing it, something I to say it is out of

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little over doing it, something I would never normally accuse you of.

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Not me! But it is hugely challenging. Hugely challenging.

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know another challenge, Greece. It hasn't gone away.

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The IMF wants something, they want a lot of things.

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The Eurozone finance ministers will have a crack at getting the bailout

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were aiming to have a review were aiming to have a review

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completed and signed off back in the autumn and that didn't happen

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because of concerns about whether Greece was actually complying with

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the programme. They will try and get it done on Monday but the IMF was

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saying that it wants to have Greece having what they call contingent

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measures to reduce its borrowing needs. That's because the IMF is not

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at all convinced that the targets that... The measures Greece has

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already agreed will achieve the borrowing targets they have in mind.

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And they therefore want to have some additional

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in automatically if the targets are missed. And it has to be said, the

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Greek government is very unhappy about going down that line. And it's

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going to be... Talking about the struggle with TTIP, this will be a

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that the Eurozone finance ministers back on the rails

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that the Eurozone finance ministers are having on Monday. But, of

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course, with the referendum on EU membership in June and also the

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possible flare-up of the refugee crisis, the last thing Europe needs

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is a Greek drama, another crisis. Do you think the European

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may be in the mood for compromise? They maybe in the mood for

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compromise for precisely one of those reasons. The political

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background for the negotiations with Greece is such that you would like

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to be just part it for a long period -- like to be able to just park it.

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The agreement is between Greece and the International Monetary Fund, the

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Eurozone and the IMF, which thinks the targets as currently constituted

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commission's gift to do this. are not credible so it is not in

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commission's gift to do this. We appreciate your time, have a

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lovely weekend. In a moment we will take you through

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the business pages but first a quick reminder of how to get in touch.

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get straight on with the papers. In get straight on with the papers.

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the New York Times Mark Zuckerberg has come out and said, those 1.6

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billion people who use Facebook regularly every month, give Facebook

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15 minutes a day. That is astonishing.

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Apparently it is more than measure activity, according to the

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bureau of labour statistics, with the exception of watching TV. And

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eating. That gets more time, doesn't it? What is interesting is not so

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much, crikey, spending 50 units on Facebook, it is that younger people,

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anybody younger than you and me, of course! Younger people are spending

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much more of their leisure time on things they don't have to pay for.

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That is quite interesting in terms of consumer spending, household

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spending and those sorts of trends. These things aren't actually free

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because they are paid for by advertising so they are paid for

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indirectly but consumers don't have to pull money out of their pockets

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to contemplate when we look at to contemplate when we look

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slightly dull consumer spending trends and they are going on a

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different way. We had some tweets. Caleb from my -- Nairobi says 50

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minutes is far more than enough. People are getting bored of

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Facebook. It doesn't look

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recent numbers. After the first flush, the

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technology is exciting, but maybe you want more faced time.

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I like that, Richard! We are running out of time.

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Financial Times, headline, most EU citizens in the UK would not meet

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That is absolutely right but the Even more so when the new rules come

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That is absolutely right but the Visa rules are set in the context of

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the number of people who can come in from the European Union. If there

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were tougher restrictions on people coming in from the European Union

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Visa rules might be relaxed so have Visa rules might be relaxed

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to look at those things in relation to one another. The fact is the UK

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has lots of demand for labour and it is sucking in workers and at the

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moment most of them come in from the EU.

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Richard Jeffrey, we appreciate your time,

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have a great weekend. Thank you, Richard.

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There will be more business news throughout the day

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