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This is Business Live from BBC News, with Ben Thompson

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Clamping down on corruption - the UK Prime Minister vows to get

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tough but after describing Nigeria and Afghanistan as fantastically

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corrupt, can anything really be achieved?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Thursday the 12th of May.

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World leaders gather in London to tackle global corruption

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including measures measures to crackdown on money

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laundering through UK property and offshore tax havens.

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We'll assess what might be achieved.

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Also in the programme, troubled Mitsubishi Motors announces

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We'll head to our Asia Business Hub for the latest on the deal

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the Nissan Boss describes as 'win win'.

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That story helped to boost markets in Japan but it was pretty sluggish

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stateside. In Europe, all eyes on the latest inflation report from the

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Bank of England. And what is in a name? We will meet the fashion

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retailer, Nick Ashley, the son of Welsh fashion designer, Laura

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Ashley. But is family heritage a help or a hindrance when it comes to

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business? And arthritic elevator 's and Arctic air-conditioning topped

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the list of office grapes in the Middle East. Today, we want to know

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what is the one thing you'd change about workplace? And you can't say

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your boss! Are you sure it is only one thing? I

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have a holistic things here. Welcome to the programme,

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we're starting right here in London today,

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where tackling corruption is top of the agenda,

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not least because the UK Prime Minister David Cameron

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was recorded calling Nigeria and But today it's the anti-corruption

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summit itself that hopes The UK will examine its role

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in international corruption often seen as a destination

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for money laundering territories, which include some

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of the world's big tax havens. Figures this week from leading

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economists claim $170 billion a year are lost through tax dodging,

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and it's the poorest countries Much of this money is channelled

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into British overseas territories - More than a third of the world's tax

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havens are British. Then there is London's

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property market. An estimated 36,000 homes

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in the capital are owned That is almost 1 in 10

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properties - just over 9% - in the City of Westminster,

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and almost as many in Here's what the Prime Minister had

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to say when he was questioned the Prime Minister Revie appeals

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from Nigerian campaigners, who say our efforts are sadly undermined if

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countries such as your own are welcoming our corrupt to hide their

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ill gotten gains in your department stores, homes, car dealerships and

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anywhere else that will accept their cash with no questions asked. One of

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the steps we are taking to make sure foreign companies that own UK

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property have to declare who the beneficial owner is will be one of

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the ways we make sure that plundered money from African countries can't

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be hidden in London. With me is Chido Dunn from

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the pressure group, Global Witness. Welcome to the programme, the

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British Prime Minister has called corruption the cancer at the heart

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of so many of our problems. If corruption is the cancer, what is

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the treatment? What we have seen as part of that treatment happening

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today, the world is turning towards transparency but the UK's tax havens

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are being left behind. So we are seeing some very positive steps from

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the UK in relation to property and the dirty and corrupt money used to

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buy it. There are some solutions but not all of them are being achieved.

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I know you have been very active in campaigning around the property

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issue, and trying to work out who owns what. What impact do you think

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that will have on people already owning property held through these

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offshore companies, and what impact do you think it might have on future

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investment? We really welcome the fact the primaries to is announcing

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the fact that the measures he is introducing will apply to offshore

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companies that already owned property, because ?170 billion is

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currently owned offshore, and based on our research and that of other

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organisations, some of that money is definitely the result of corruption

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or other proceeds of crime. The result it will have on the UK

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economy will be positive mostly. We have the head of the crime agency

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saying it will affect house prices. It will deter some investment, but

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it will keep dirty money out and help people who deserve to own homes

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here to buy them. There are a lot of people coming to this, financiers,

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world leaders, lots of campaigners as well. Crucially, the Panamanian

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government did not get an invitation, after the Panama Papers,

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and what we found out from them, and also we did not hear from the

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British Virgin Islands. The tax havens are not at this summit. What

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kind of message does this send? The tax havens are the key to this

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corruption problem. As you said, it is a real worry that they haven't

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engaged in the process of the summit. The primer Nistor has

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expressed his displeasure at the fact that the British Virgin Islands

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did not come to the table and enter the sort of agreement he asked for.

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We would say that it is so important that the tax savings are part of the

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solution, but they will only really be able to participate if they come

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and willing to make meaningful changes to their business practices.

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It is worth stating that not every offshore company is hiding dirty

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money. There are very legitimately is and why you would use these

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structures. Absolutely, we are not advocating the end of all corporate

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structures, it is just secrecy. The use of secrecy to hide identities is

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being used for nefarious reasons by tax evaders and criminals. But the

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use of offshore vehicles for tax planning or inheritance planning is

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financial continue to happen. Chido, thank you for coming in.

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In other news, Google has announced plans to ban adverts

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from so-called payday lenders, in a move the company

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hopes will limit what it calls "a harmful industry".

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The search giant plans to stop allowing ads for loans due within 60

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days, or with an interest rate of 36% or higher.

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Many payday lenders rely on internet searches to generate customers.

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The likely Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump wants

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to protect US manufacturing jobs by imposing tariffs

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He's suggested tariffs of 45% on imported Chinese goods and 35%

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But trade experts say that would be likely to spark similar moves

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from other trading partners and damage global trade.

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German sportswear firm Adidas has said it is ending its sponsorship

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of English football club Chelsea six years early.

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Adidas, which has sponsored Chelsea since 2006, said it had reached

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a mutual agreement to end the deal on 30 June 2017 instead of 2023.

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The club will have to pay Adidas tens of millions

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of euros in compensation, but is free to sign a new sponsor.

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Let's take you to Asia, where the Japanese car makers

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Mitsubishi and Nissan have confirmed they're in talks over

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In the last half an hour, the Nissan chief said the company would be

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taking a 34% stake in Mitsubishi motors, which has been plagued by

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the emissions scandal. Sharanjit Leyl is in our

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Asia Business Hub in Singapore. Sharanjit, how significant

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could this deal be Mitsubishi caught up in that

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emissions data scandal. But the boss of Nissan says this is a win-win

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deal. That's right. In fact, they have just been meeting at this press

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conference in the last half an hour. The deal is apparently worth $2.2

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billion, and as you say, 34% is the amount that has been suggested. The

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two chairman essentially in a joint press conference, and Mr Goh and

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describing it as win-win. Analysts saying that a deal would make sense

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for both, to help Mitsubishi motors, which has been dogged by a scandal,

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as well as Nissan, trying to boost its presence in the small car

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market. The inaccurate tests were flagged up by

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Nissan's own test produced for it by Mitsubishi.

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Mitsubishi shares were not trading for much of the day but they have

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closed up the 16% daily limit, while Nissan's shares have sunk about

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1.4%. We know Mitsubishi's market value has fallen massively since the

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scandal first broke. That deal is, we are told, now done. The McKay is

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rising today. Investors have been spoken -- focusing on that story --

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the Nicky clear macro we have heard from the force of

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the boss of Nissan this morning. It is worth noting, despite all of that

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talk of falling prices, oil has been the best performing asset, up by

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about a quarter so far this year. A quick look at how Europe is faring,

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remembered today we get the latest quarterly inflation report from the

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Bank of England. We will discuss that in a little more detail in a

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moment, but let's head stateside and find out what is happening on Wall

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Street. It seems the bad news from American retailers will continue. On

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Wednesday, Macey said its revenue fell by more than 7% and may have

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cut their outlook from the full year. Up next, Nordstrom. It has

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been struggling with weak sales over the last year and the unseasonable

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weather will not help matters. Many are expecting profits to take a hit.

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Ralph Lauren will also be reporting a loss, and while they are plagued

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with some of the same problems, some fashion missteps will mean profits

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will likely fall for the quarter. The bigger question is what does

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this mean for the wider retail industry? These results do have

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people worrying about how much consumers will spend going forward.

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Despite lower gas prices and a recovering labour market, Americans

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are not opening their wallets. Joining us is Jane Sydenham,

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investment director Welcome to the programme. Today will

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be a big day for the bank of England. The last so-called Super

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Thursday ahead of the EU referendum vote. What do you think we are

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likely to hear? Reduced growth forecasts. Growth has been reducing

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a little bit, partly because there is a bit of worry about the EU

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referendum, partly because of slowing growth in China, but

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interestingly inflation has turned positive, because oil prices, as you

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said, have stopped falling, and actually wages are beginning to rise

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because employment is relatively faux. That -- relatively full. Mark

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Carney has already sent some signals that the bank is prepared to support

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the economy if we were to Brexit, which might push down sterling,

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might cause a bit of break of confidence in the short-term. He is

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likely to reinforce that message, I think. Growth forecast down on one

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hand, inflation forecasts up on the other. What does that tell us about

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the state of the economy? It is easy to get caught up in these individual

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reports, what is the bigger picture? We are still growing, that is a good

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thing. Inflation is positive now, markets were getting very worried

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about falling prices, which is really a very negative signal, so we

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are into positive territory, seeing some growth but relatively slow.

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Quite modest, and I think from that perspective interest rates are not

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likely to rise soon. Markets are forecasting rates would rise

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Still to come: Does having family heritage in an industry make

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We'll be talking to Nick Ashley, the son of Welsh fashion

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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The phone and broadband provider TalkTalk has said the cyber attack

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which hit the firm last October has cost over ?40 million and put a dent

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Mark Turner is a cyber security expert who's been

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He joins us from our Salford newsroom.

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it was feared to be a huge leak of data. It actually didn't turn out to

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be quite as bad as they feared? Back in October, there was a breach of

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TalkTalk's network. Initially, they came out and said it could have been

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4 million customers. The subsequent days after that, they came back to

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the media and said actually it was 157,000 users whose details had been

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compromised, and about 15,000 users whose bank account details had been

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leaked. Some of the comments we have been hearing from Dido Harding, the

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chief exec, she said customers she thinks has really appreciated the

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way TalkTalk has handled the fallout, and actually the customer

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chair number, the turnover is actually the lowest in the company's

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history. So presumably they are doing something right? The chair

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number is an interesting number, because if you wanted to leave

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someone like TalkTalk, or any internet or broadband provider, if

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you decide to do that because they have had a security breach, you need

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to look at your terms and conditions, and they will probably

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say you can't leave within the contract period, 12 months, 18

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months, 24 months. I'm sure there are people who would like to leave

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TalkTalk because of the way they have handled their client data, but

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don't because of the fear of a penalty. TalkTalk did say the only

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people they would let leave without a penalty were people whose bank

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account details had been compromised, and quite frankly that

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is not good enough. If my data had been held with any organisation that

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had been compromised, I feel I should have the right to vote

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with my feet and take my business elsewhere.

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Lots of other stories for you this morning. We can't fit them all in on

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the programme, but they are on the website. ITV reports a 14% rise in

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quarterly sales. That's always a good indication of how the

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advertising market is doing. It also said it boosted acquisitions last

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year, part of its business strategy. You're watching Business

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Live - our top story, global leaders are gathering

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in London today to discuss measures It's in a bid to crackdown

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on money laundering, UK Prime Minister David Cameron has

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announced that foreign firms will have to declare ownership

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of any UK property on a register. It has been a rather embarrassingly

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for the Prime Minister, who was recorded describing two countries as

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fantastically correct. He will be hoping to be in headlines for

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reasons today. Now, does having family heritage

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in an industry make you more likely Do family connections

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help or hinder? Nick Ashley is the co-founder

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and creative director at Private White -

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it's a luxury men's fashion firm, He's the son of Laura Ashley,

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the Welsh fashion designer Her floral prints became

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famous around the world. An avid motorcyclist,

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his clothing line has a distinctively military style -

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reflecting the man the company I'm pleased to say that he joins us

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now in the studio. Nice to see you. This is an interesting one. We talk

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about family connections on the programme a lot and whether they

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help or hinder. In your case, you have discussed this before about

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whether a recognisable name, a well-known name in the fashion

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business, for you, has been a good thing or a hindrance? It is a

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question of choice. I chose to make it an advantage. They say that you

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either emulate your parents or you rebel against them. I have emulated

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my mother, she was a designer, I am a designer. I have rebelled against

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my father, he was a businessman, do not trust me with your money! That

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is quite worrying, you are running a company. Both of your parents are

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very strong people, they had a real eye when it came to costs. You are

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saying you grew up in a tent, pretty much? My parents, they started their

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business, they came out of the Second World War, they were trained

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in living under canvas, but they didn't have any money. They wanted

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to start a business. All of the money they had, they put into a

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factory, they brought us up in a tent, next to the factory, just to

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save on costs. We did eventually move into a rented caravan. We

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traded up to trailer trash. I'm interested in that point about

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emulating your mother but rebelling against your father. How does that

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manifest itself in the way you go about business? What you do

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differently to your peers? I don't attempt to do any business. I work

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with James and Mike, the other guys, it is their business, Private White,

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I just do the design element. I'm not interested in business. I'm

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interested in people. My father always said we are in the people

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business, it is all about people. I heard, for someone who has described

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themselves as an introspective and quite quiet character, you were

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almost the drummer for The Clash, is that true? They say you should only

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regret the things you haven't done in life. This is one regret. I had

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only just come in the 70s, gone into Saint Martin's School of fashion. I

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was very proud of that. Jo -- Joe Strummer asked me to be in his band,

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but I didn't do it. And you didn't know how to play the drums? Said, I

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can't play, he said, it doesn't matter, you look right, we will

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teach you. All couldn't really play the bass and work for him. -- Paul.

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I saw the bass guitarist last year. I said, could I have pulled that

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off, being the drummer? You said, no, the drama really has to pull it

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together, so I can relax. You said it was about your look, and it is

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very punk, and that is the way you have taken the fashion line as well.

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Has that influenced the way you took the business? We all went through

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that punk period, I wasn't actually punt, I was more rocker because of

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the biking thing. It is more of an attitude, the punk thing. It is a

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kind of not giving a beep about anything. I take that through now, I

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am a very laid-back character. It is certainly working for your business.

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Thank you for coming in. Really interesting to hear more about your

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background and how the business is faring.

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We're going to turn our attention to Brazil. Senators are debating on

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whether to proceed with the impeachment proceedings against

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Dilma Rousseff. They have said they want to vote in favour of the move.

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Any potential suspension would last for six months

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while her impeachment trial takes place.

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Camilla Costa has been following the story from Sao Paulo.

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Brazil is going through one of its worst recessions in decades.

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President Dilma Rousseff is largely blamed for that, even though she has

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not herself been accused of corruption or of benefiting from

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corruption schemes. She has been blamed for what some say are bad

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economic decisions that may have deepened the Brazilian crisis. Many

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Brazilians want her out, most of the country. But many are also wondering

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what might come next, given the fact that many politicians, in the line

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of succession, even, have been implicated on corruption charges.

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The Vice President has been implicated in some corruption

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allegations. The former President of the lower house of Congress, and the

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leader of the Senate, they have also been charged or heavily implicated

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in corruption allegations. For many Brazilians, and we do have to bear

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in mind that Brazilians, historically, have not had much

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faith in politicians, now they are really trying to think about what

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exactly and where exactly is a new government going to take us?

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Jane Sydenham, investment director at Rathbones Investment

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Big news yesterday afternoon, Three has refused to give up on the 02

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merger, in spite of the fact that the European regulator has said no?

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The deal went through as planned, it would be 40% of the market, I can

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understand why the regulator is intervening. Equally, I understand

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why they don't want to give up on it, it is a tremendous opportunity

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to consolidate the market, from a marketing perspective, they would

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have reached so many more customers. I can see why they might try to find

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a way through. It interesting, on one hand, you might say the more

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power one firm has, it could have an impact on prices and investment. On

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the other hand, the bigger the company, the more money it has to

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throughout investment, it can use economies of scale to make the

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market better. It's a fine balance. There was a lot of criticism that

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the regulator didn't necessarily get it right in this case? I think that

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is right, should be four competitors or three? What is considered a

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market, is it Europe, Western Europe? It is what you consider to

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be the market and how money players are in it. Clearly, the current

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regulator is moving towards more competitors. There is obviously a

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worry. There is some evidence from European markets, where there has

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been a lot of consolidation, that pricing has not come down at the

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rate it should have done after that has taken place. It is complicated,

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as you say, but I think there is more evidence that pricing does not

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fall with insufficient numbers of competitors. I think that seems to

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be the trend for the time being. Moving on, another story that is in

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a golf paper, The National. Apparently cold air con and

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arthritic lifts are the main complaints in the Middle East. What

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is yours? We have very loud hand dryers in the Lady's toilets. Mice

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is the biggest problem here! I filmed one, I was about six feet

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from one this morning. One viewer wants to change the colour of the

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office, another says she wants to change the manager. Proper heating,

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a decent staff room, somebody says. One suggests they would burn down

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their office, not recommended! Thank you for your time. Thanks for your

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company, full update on the website and across the BBC today. See you

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soon.

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