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later, the Eurozone recovers from later, the Eurozone recovers from

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the financial crisis, the question is, what is the cost, an hour-long?

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That is our top story on Good to have the Eurozone finally

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recovering from the financial crisis. How strong is that recovery,

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will it last? Apple has invested $1 billion in a car sharing app which

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is a greater market share than Uber in China. We will keep an eye on the

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global markets. Shares in the Japanese car-maker Nissan rose,

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after it took a major stake in embattled rival Mitsubishi. The boss

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of the Bank of England weighs into the whole

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Brexit debate. As Facebook launches allegations of

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censorship on its site, are you worried about censorship on social

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media? Get in touch. We start in Europe -

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in a few hours time we'll get the latest growth figures

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for the 19 countries that They are expected to confirm that -

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at last - after eight years and TWO recessions -

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not to mention a major wobble over Greece -

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the Eurozone has finally recovered in the first three months

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of the year, the Eurozone economy That may not sound like much -

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but for Europe that is good going. It puts the annual growth rate

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at 1.6% year on year. But here's an even

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more important number, the total value of all the goods

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and services produced in the Eurozone in the first quarter

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was 2.48 trillion euros. That's a shade more

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than its peak just before the financial crisis -

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in the first quarter of 2008. It's taken years longer

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than the US and UK to recover- Some 700 billion euros

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was pumped into the economy by the European Central Bank over

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the past year and a half. As well as 'quantitative easing'

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they have cut interest rates to BELOW zero -

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ie negative interest rates. Angel Talavera, Eurozone Economist

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at Oxford Economics Why did it take so long? It

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highlights the fundamental problems of the

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Eurozone, the one monitoring policy and exchange rate for very different

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countries. That is the point, the disparity

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continues. Germany, Northern Europe, then Italy, Greece? The hype was the

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Eurozone would lead to a strong convergence, that is not happened.

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You have countries like Germany and Greece which have

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To have one policy for both countries nearly impossible.

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We keep hearing, people from outside the region, looking in, investors

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around the world, they are not optimistic. They seem to be very

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pessimistic? It is hard to be optimistic on the Eurozone, after so

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many years of mediocre growth stock the prospects are not that great. I

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understand why in investor would not be optimistic.

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The Eurozone will grow at a steady pace, but the risk is to fall into

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mediocrity. Unless there are some big changes made, we will never see

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growth rates much higher. Aside from the economic and political

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headwinds, in recent months we have seen the migrant

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crisis taking control of the area. How big a factor is that? That is

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one of the biggest challenges, not only a net economic issue, but a

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social issue. It has been very challenging socially and

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politically. The challenge of taking those people will be enormous. It is

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an opportunity to benefit as well. I just saw this two-day, cracking

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little piece. One of the consequences, last year Greece for

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capital controls into the banks, restricting people taking cash. One

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of the consequences of that, Greeks, in record numbers, are

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signing up to credit and debit cards. The thing about them, leaving

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an electronic trail for the taxman, which is in a country which has a

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reputation for dodgy tax. That is a silver lining of an otherwise pretty

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terrible situation for Greece. It might lead to an improvement in the

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fiscal balance, which we know is being watched constantly by

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everybody. Shares of Apple have fallen below

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$90 for the first time in nearly two years amid investors' concerns

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about slumping iPhone sales. On Thursday, a report citing

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a source within Apple said component suppliers in Taiwan should

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expect fewer orders. The pace of iPhone sales has slowed,

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particularly in Asia, and there are no major

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new product releases scheduled. During the trading session Apple

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briefly lost its position as the world's most valuable company

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to Google's parent company Alphabet. They are both worth just under

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500 billion dollars. Manchester United are due

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to release their financial results later today and-

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according to Deloitte- the club is expected to become

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the biggest earners in World The Premier League team have

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recently signed a new 10-year kit deal with German

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sportswear giant Adidas. Manchester United are due

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to release their financial Manchester United were bought

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by the Glazer family in a controversial

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leveraged buyout in 2005- the company floated on the New York

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Stock Exchange in August 2012. China's leading app-based taxi

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service, Didi Chuxing. Leisha - how big a deal is this

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and why are they doing it? You are very close in pronouncing

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it. It shows that Apple has a strong belief

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in a couple of things, one is China, the second is

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the sharing economy, and car technology. Tim Cook is

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visiting China later this month, he says this $1

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billion deal will help iPhones and iPads are levelling off

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China, the market is saturated. Apple

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something else. It is not a small country, they control 90% of China's

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private car market. investors, Alibaba, Google will have

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a hard time catching up, they are yet to crack the market.

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Lacklustre performance on the markets.

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The bank of Japan may add to its massive stimulus before too long.

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falling, the load 6100 for the first time in a month.

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Hard to say why that is, other than other European markets are lower on

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the back of those fools we saw in the

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US and Asia. Oil prices slipping a little bit.

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We have the details about what is happening on Wall Street. Many

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American retailers have shown disappointing profits this week. It

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looks as if US sales have gone up for the

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month of April. That is welcome news given they fell for the month of

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March. What changed? People stepping up their purchases of

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automobiles. Also on Friday, the consumer

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sentiment for the month of May. Telling us how confident people are

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feeling about the US economy. This is a number really closely watched

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by the US Federal reserve. Consumer sentiment probably went up in the

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month of May from a seven-month low, as Americans see improvement in both

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the labour market and finances. James Bevan, Chief

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Investment Officer of CCLA We have that Friday feeling. Asian

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stocks off the back of a tech sell-off. Apple saying they will not

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sell as many iPhones eMac, that means in Asia we will not buy as

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many components. There are plenty of people saying it is a pause for

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breath before they can to ahead. There will be one and a half billion

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people on the planet owning an iPhone before the cycle is over.

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That would They are just below 100. The bad

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news is the iPhone is over, bad news for the component players, we have

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heard the story in Asia. Hence Apple wanting to diversify into content.

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Apple is saying we want original content, we will invest heavily,

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doing things on our phones, watch it. If we look at how

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tech stocks outperformed, they generally got whacked. A slight

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recovery from Harmison? For people who are patient with

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their stocks, very good. The great advantage for Amazon, people are

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prepared to be optimistic, whereas with

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Apple, very pessimistic. It is a fraction of the valuation for

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Amazon. Brazil, the impeachment. How are markets responding? Markets

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are optimistic, but they are spoilt for choice with cheap emerging

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markets. You will come back and Still to come, has the head

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of the Bank of England gone too far Stay tuned - we'll have

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more from our Economics You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. Research carried out for the BBC has

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revealed that more than 600 bank branches have closed

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across the UK in the past year. In population terms

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it's hitting rural One of those is Birchington

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on Sea in Kent. Welcome to Birchington-on-Sea,

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in Kent. It is like many villages, with

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a bustling high street of shops. But one thing here is

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missing, the banks. Mandy runs a local deli,

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and she is trying to figure out how she will

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do her banking when the village

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loses its last remaining bank. Why do you think

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the banks have closed? But for them all to close,

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I don't know why, The other thing

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is the passing trade. All the villagers used to come

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in and do their banking, and spend money in the shops,

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and stuff like that. Across the road used to be the HSBC,

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down there a Barclays, But they have all closed

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in the past year. This is the last bank in town,

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but it also will close next month. 600 others have shut

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across the UK in the last year. The Post Office here is picking

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up some of the slack, My time is to be quite precious,

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and I have to spend maybe half an hour, 45 minutes, even an hour

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sometimes, just driving to Obviously they've got reasons

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to close their branches down, but it The banks say they are investing to

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offer a wider level of services. It is about casting costs, but the cost

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to the community could be much higher. The Tesco boss gets an

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annual bonus of ?3 million. The company did return to profit for the

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first time in years, look at this, eggs, we all love them and they are

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coming down in price! Eight years and two

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recessions later. The Eurozone has finally recovered

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from the financial crisis. And now let's get the inside

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track on a busy week We've had the Governor

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of the Bank of England, Mark Carney, saying that a Brexit

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vote may spark a recession. We should say for our worldview was

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that Brexit means the referendum in the UK about whether the UK will

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stay in the European Union or leave. Saudi Arabia's state oil company,

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Saudi Aramco, is preparing for the largest stock market

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flotation in history. And Greece has been seeking

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another bailout ... We're joined by our economics

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editor Kamal Ahmed. Good to see you. Should we start

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with the boss of the Bank of England, scare tactics, does he have

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the right to come out and say that if the UK leaves the European Union

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there will be a recession with house prices plummeting and things like

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that? I think the governor is thinking to himself that he won't

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have many chances to speak about this debate so yesterday it was the

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inflation report when the Bank of England looks up a whole of the UK

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economy and I think is really used it to make this stern warning about

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what he believes. But it is not just him, it's him and eight other

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members of the Monetary Policy Committee. That is the group of bank

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and external economists who set interest rates in the UK. There

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would be a negative impact on UK economic growth if Britain were to

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leave the European Union. This comes after one week of pretty woeful data

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on the UK economy. Some people estimate that UK economic growth in

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April went down 20.1%. This means that if there is downward pressure

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on growth which the Bank of England believes they would be if there was

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Brexit, that would take Britain into negative to injury. Two quarters of

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negative growth gives you what the bank of England governor described

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yesterday as a technical recession. One final point. A deliberate use of

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the word "Recession". If you speak to mark Carney he does believe the

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Bank of England needs to be transparent on the concerns it holds

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because what's the point of saying after the referendum result, we

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thought this but we didn't say anything at the time! He says it is

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an issue of transparency. It has caused a lot of talk in the UK,

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whether it is right or not. It was a big week for Greece again on Monday,

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this controversial bill voted to and then the topic of debt relief being

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discussed again amongst Eurozone finance ministers throughout the

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week. How likely is that to be, considering Germany, which until now

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has been so against the concept of it? It seems that what they don't

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want is a massive controversy outside the British issue of the

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referendum, blowing up in Greece. They have said, it's quite positive

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news, that they want to look at the issue of debt relief. Yet

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absolutely, as you say, will Germany stomach fundamental changes in what

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Greece is being asked to do after the 2012 Euros and crisis? There

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will be lots more negotiation. We've had these things going on familiar

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is. But better news in the Greek economy, unemployment in Greece has

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come down to a four-year low. There is some reform going through and in

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the Eurozone, as you say, there has been some positive economic news so

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at a time when the UK economy seems to be stuttering the Eurozone

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economy, we've had very strong Germany and GDP figures this

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morning, it seems to be showing signs of momentum and recovery.

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If they are given more debt relief, isn't that a gift? Greece is in a

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position with dad at 120% of GDP, will it ever be able to pay off that

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debt pile and what is the way that we can get the Greek economy back in

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order? I don't think it can be seen as a gift. But what you are doing is

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managing the way and the number of years it will pay back and how it

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uses the European stability mechanism to pay off its debts and

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can you have a more shallow glide path to a position where it's got

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that debt under better control? And Saudi Arabia today, talk us through

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that. Our colleague Simon Jack went to Saudi Arabia to injury the chief

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executive of Saudi Aramco, their main oil company -- he went to

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interview him. They want to sell part of that to raise huge mud of

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money for the Saudi government. And they think production will still

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increase. -- huge amount of money. The Chief Executive Officer said

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this in his interview with Simon. Pressure on the oil price may come

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down as Saudi keeps the tabs open. Interestingly the head of the

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International energy authority said that oil demand was increasing from

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India in particular, and from China. So the oil price has been relatively

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robust over the last 3-4 months. Biggest public offering in history.

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Always great stuff, have a great weekend.

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Now, auctions of old comic books have

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Originally they cost just a few cents to buy -

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but now they are changing hands for five or even six-figure sums.

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Heritage Auctions in New York sells over $30 million

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of comic books and original comic art per year.

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Michelle Fleury got a sneak preview ahead of this weekend's auction.

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I am here at Heritage Comics and comic art auction. This is a cover

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of Superman number one, he is of course faster than a speeding bullet

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and he can leap a building in a single bound. Did you know that one

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of his other superpowers was making money? If you bought this in 1939 it

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was worth 10 cents and today it is expected to go under the hammer for

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$28,000. What are the other highlights on display? The last

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panel has been incredible because that is every character who made

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their first appearance in the strip until then. He would have wonder

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woman number two from 1942. Some of the prices we have got would have

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been unthinkable ten years ago or even five years ago. One of the star

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lots is this ex-man cover which the seller bought as a young boy. When I

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was 13, in 1976I went with my father to a comic book convention in

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London, I had birthday money and we bought it. I paid around 15 or ?20.

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We hope it will go for six figures. An incredible return. The lesson is,

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by what you love because if it does not go up in value at least you will

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have something to read! Welcome back. I was checking my Twitter feed

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because we've had some responses to the question we asked at the start

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of the show, asking what you think about editorial bias on social

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media, talking about this Facebook story. Ryan says, I am not worried

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about censorship on social media. I may be one of the few millennial 's

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who get news from reputable sources like the BBC, social media sites

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should not be sources of his career should just share things with your

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friends that you agree on. James is back. Marcus Cauberg is in the news.

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It's really important to the integrity of the company, it prides

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itself on understanding the people who play get. That is one way in

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which they monetise what they are up to. -- Mark is a Cauberg synonyms.

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Week can skip the newspapers because I know that you want to talk about

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Europe. -- we will be able to skip the newspapers. Germany is powering

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ahead. These numbers are really very poor. Europe still has a huge

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challenge. On April 29 we have the Portuguese vote. That has saved the

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Eurozone from another crisis. I think Europe is still hanging by a

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thread. Jiminy's growth figure was stronger than in any quarter last

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year. The smack Germany's growth figure. We are talking about one

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number. For three years it has mainly been flat. I argue that we

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cannot expect good news from the Eurozone until we solve the real

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issue, the single fiscal authority. Negative interest rates are one

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mechanism by which the European Central Bank provides fiscal support

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through Europe, in a sense. There will be hell to pay. It is

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interesting. Many valid points, to be frank and we did not even do the

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papers. Sorry about that. James Bevan, thank you.

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