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This is Business Alive. A two face the economy, booming growth, and a

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third of the world's poorest people, India looks for a way forward. That

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is our top story on Thursday the 6th of October.

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India playing host to the World Economic Forum. How can one of the

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world's fastest economies tackle poverty at home? Also mobile wars.

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Samsung takes on an artificial intelligence pioneer, and the maker

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of Apple's Siri. Deutsche Bank shares doing well this morning, up

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2.5%. We will hear from the Nigerian e-commerce firm taking on the giants

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of the tech world. Jet packs may be about to go on sale to the public

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next year. Certainly the case in the UK. What kind of sci-fi invention

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would you like to see developed? Use the hashtag.

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Welcome to Business Alive. In India business and political leaders are

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gathering for a summit of the World Economic Forum. India amongst the

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world's fastest growing economies. Rising asperity helping to reduce

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global poverty levels. Still serious problems. The World Bank defines

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extreme poverty than living on less than $1 90 day. About 760 million

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people in 2013. Although that is 100 million fewer than the previous

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year. Part of a longer term trend. The number of people living in

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extreme poverty has fallen by 1.1 billion since 1990, despite growth

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in the world's population. Down to a strong income group in Asia,

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particularly China, but India as well. Around half of the world's

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poorest live in sub-Saharan Africa. 224 million of the poorest people in

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the world, one in three still live in India. By far the country with

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the most poor people. Let's go live to the World Economic Forum, under

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way in Delhi. You have been talking to many of those attending this

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event, with various views on how to tackle this challenge. Tell us more.

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Like you said, a big challenge that India faces. Growth has been steady

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for the last couple of years, and predicted to be strong this year,

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and the next year. There is a huge growing divide between those who

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have and have not. A challenge to make sure there are enough jobs for

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the millions coming into the job market, lifting them out of poverty.

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They have do attract more foreign companies to invest. They have been

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talking about infrastructure. I have a businessman, can I ask you,

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infrastructure, India needs about $1 trillion of investment, is that

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happening? We need about $1 trillion, any next five years, after

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that a couple more. Some of it is happening. A lot more can happen, in

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terms of getting better investment off the ground. The big challenges,

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when foreign companies talk about investing. What sectors? India needs

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investment in all areas. We need across all sectors. Most of it is

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focused on the roads. It has developed the most over the last few

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years. Especially the actions in the last 24 months, a lot more interest

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in the roads. Especially on Brownfield sites. A lot of insurance

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funds, investment funds seeking to take positions on these assets. One

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of the big challenges, the build-out, still fairly significant.

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Most global companies are not really in the mood, they don't have the

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appetite to take on these, roads, power, ports. Is it fear because of

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the timing it takes to pass these various orders can getting land

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rights? Environmental clearances? These are huge projects, getting

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them off the ground could take years in India? It is a very endemic

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challenge, for infrastructure in most parts of the world. Tough to

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get clearance, right away. Tough to get them going, probably more than

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in many other countries. Having said that, in a number of sectors we have

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seen progress, power. The policy is very clear around linkage. The next

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big step would be to start seeing these minds starting to produce.

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Once we see steps like that, the appetite for foreign investors,

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financing and operating, it will be a lot more. As you heard India needs

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more than $1 trillion of investment in the next five years in

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infrastructure. Offering a lot of opportunities for foreign companies,

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getting them here and attract them will be in the's big challenge.

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Thanks, good to see you, interesting what is happening at the World

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Economic Forum in Delhi. A lock disgust. Some of the other

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news. Shares of Twitter slumped almost 10

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per cent late on Wednesday on a report that Google is not

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going ahead with a takeover bid. The report on tech news website

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Recode also claims Apple is unlikely to be a buyer for the struggling

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social media firm. Twitter has told potential buyers it

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wants to wrap up sale negotiations by the time it reports third quarter

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earnings on October 27th - according to Reuters -

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which reports that Salesforce.com and Walt Disney are

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also in the running. The Walt Disney company has told

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Bloomberg News visitor numbers to its new theme park in Shanghai

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have "exceeded our expectations". That's despite reports

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in the South China Morning Post that attendance levels are about half

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what analysts had estimated. Guests have complained about high

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ticket prices and long waits for rides -

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according to the newspaper. The park opened in June at a cost

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of 5.5 billion dollars. Our tablet is not working this

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morning. Always best to confess. When we get it working, we will

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follow on some other stories. Samsung has stepped up its focus

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on artificial intelligence by taking over Viv, a digital assistant

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developed by the maker The acquisition comes

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just days after Google launched its new pixel phone

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which also puts a strong focus on an AI digital

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assistance function. This is an interesting thing? A lots

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of different companies looking to do this at the moment? Are exactly

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right. The new technology everyone is talking about, everyone wants to

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be part of. Samsun, the South Korean company making a big leap into the

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world of artificial intelligence by buying Viv, who founded Siri, which

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they sold to Apple in 2010. This is supposed to be a more powerful

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version of Siri, which Samsung say they will use in their devices. The

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aim of the company is to provide additional assistance which breathes

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life into inanimate objects. We will see what that is like in practice.

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One of Samsun's upgraded phones exploding again? What is going on?

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Right after recalling 2.5 million of the Galaxy Note handsets, one of

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those announced that was safe, reportedly started smoking on a

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plane in the US on Wednesday. The plane was evacuated before take-off,

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Samsun saying they are investigating the incident. It will mark an

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embarrassing, an expensive new development for the smartphone

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maker. Stocks are a bit

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stronger in Asian trade. In Japan the yen is weaker,

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sending the Nikkei up as Japanese-made goods become

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cheaper for the rest of the world. The stronger US dollar leaves

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gold under pressure. The British pound flirted

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near a three-decade low of $1.2686 touched on Wednesday on worries

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about Britain's EU exit. Deutsche Bank shares have been

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rising in European The German government is pursuing

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discreet talks with US authorities to help Deutsche Bank

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secure a swift settlement over the sale of toxic mortgage bonds,

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according to sources in Berlin. The US Treasury Secretary will

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discuss America's agenda for the upcoming International monetary fund

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and World Bank meetings. We will get some insight into his views on the

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state of the global economy. The Atlanta Federal reserve bank, the

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president will hold a web cast to discuss how the bank will pick its

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next president. They have formed a committee to conduct a nationwide

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search to find a broad, highly diversified talent pool for the next

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president. Weekly claims for state unemployment benefits are expected

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to have gone up. What does this mean for the overall labour market? We

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will see on Friday, when we get the latest jobs numbers, when they are

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released. Joining us is Lawrence Gosling,

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editor-in-chief of Investment Week. Lovely to see you. So much coming

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on, companies, twitter, Samsung, easyJet, a profit warning. Classic

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post-Brexit, listed company. We're still using it to fly a lot. It has

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the problem of the oil price. Biggest input costs. Then we have

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the currencies, the weaker pound having an effect on their business.

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We have Next on we will see inflation brought in on the back of

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that. Other companies doing poorly, on the other side of the Atlantic.

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Twitter struggling. The earnings update on the 27th of October. It

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reminds us a bit of Yahoo, desperate for the sale. Are they going to be

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any kind of position to announce? Definitely not, if they don't have

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one well down the line, you cannot successfully announce a deal in two

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weeks' time. It looks desperate. They are struggling to monetise the

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way people use it. Why would you want to buy Twitter? If you were

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Walt Disney or Apple? You were buying more data, more connection

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with customers. For Disney, you can get that distribution of potential

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content. I am slightly worried, sales force is a more

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business kind of kit, does not necessarily link with Twitter. We

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will leave it there. We were told later about many things, including

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the jet pack. We want you to get in touch about that. Jet packs

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available in one year's time. What sci-fi invention would you like to

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play with? Keep those inventions coming in. We have quite a number,

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some real corkers. What does it take to beat

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Amazon at its own game? We'll meet the boss of the Nigerian

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e-commerce firm giving the tech You're with Business

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Live from BBC News. And we're looking at the effects of

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globalisation across the BBC today. Our reporter Steph McGovern

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is in her home town today, on Teesside, to see how global trade

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has impacted the people This is a report on Teesside, we

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have containers going out and coming in. Fairly small in terms of what

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they are dealing with. Normally ships were about 1000 containers

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bringing all manner of things into the UK. Anything from timber,

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furniture, maybe some of your Christmas presents amongst the

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containers. We are here to talk about global trade. A big meeting

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happening in America, talking about what impact global trade has had on

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economies. The good and the bad. The likes of the World Bank and the IMF

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meeting to discuss this. For an area like this, which is importing and

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exporting products, it can be good and bad for them. We have seen the

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likes of the steel industry in my home town Middlesbrough, we have

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seen the demise, originally built here, the great heritage of

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steel-making. Hit hard because of the Chinese able to make it cheaper.

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On the other hand, other businesses on the Digital economy,

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petrochemicals. We have the touchy rail plan. -- Hitachi rail plant.

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Interestingly, our business presenter on Radio 4 has been in

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Sunderland today. A lot of detail on the Business Live page. There is a

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Nissan plant there, a lot of worry about Brexit. The boss talking about

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investment, perhaps put on hold because of the negotiations. He told

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workers he plans to spend 1 million a week on the local economy. Concern

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from Sunderland Council whether that will happen. This is Business Live.

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The top story today: India is playing host to the World Economic

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Forum but can one of the leading economies in the world tackle the

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high levels of poverty at home. We can get the latest from Delhi on our

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Twitter feed. Now the European markets. A mixed picture emerging.

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EasyJet shares were down over 8% today. Really struggling. This is a

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warning that profits will be much lower, down a third from where they

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thought they would be. Lots of different issues affecting that

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company, including terrorist attacks, but also the value of oil

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has been rising and there has been a real weakness in sterling as well.

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One tweet I saw today was looking at the pound and parity with the Euro.

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Could we get to that point soon? Very interesting. There is a five

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year low against the Euro now which we will keep an eye on.

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Say the phrase tech Titan and most people think of Silicon Valley

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in the US or possibly even Shenzhen in China.

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One company that's aiming to challenge that duopoly is Konga,

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The company describes itself as the country's largest online

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mall and caters to over a million customers.

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In total the company has over 30,000 small businesses selling

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on its website and operates something called KongaPay,

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its own online payment system for all transactions on the site.

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So far they've received over $80 million in investment

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and they now have their sights set on growing the business

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A little earlier my colleague Ben Bland spoke to Shola Adekoya,

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the CEO of Konga, and began by asking him to tell us a bit

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Konga is an e-commerce company based in Nigeria.

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The platform service was first-party retail and then a marketplace,

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a marketplace of over 60,000 SMEs trading on a platform

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We do logistics, we do payment, and we have a company

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How do you compete against the giants like Amazon and eBay?

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EBay and Amazon have absolutely no direct presence in Nigeria.

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You can buy and they ship it to Nigeria.

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I guess one of our strengths when you compare us to them

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We can deliver quicker than they can.

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We had teething challenges getting the logistics right.

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But where we are today, we are a lot faster in delivering

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So if someone ordered something on one side of Nigeria for delivery

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to the other, how quickly could you make that happen?

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An average of five days across Nigeria.

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And this is one of the fantastic things about the network

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In the past we were looking at anything between

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Today people are getting it in five days, in three days,

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literally from the very end of Nigeria.

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Now we are beginning to see in Lagos and Abuja, the big cities,

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Where are you finding the traffic is coming from?

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75% of transaction traffic is mobile.

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But in this there are some very interesting behaviours.

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People are still very sensitive to the data consumption.

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So you find that people browse, add to cart, and then maybe

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when they get a chance on a desktop, look at those items

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that they are interested in, see all the details,

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You find people moving between phones and desktop.

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Did you find people were reluctant to move away from cash

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I guess for payments, people put in their card details

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online, so first of all you had to get through the barrier of people

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There has been a lot of fraud in the past.

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But even though that had been fixed, people had issues putting

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What we have had to do is work on KongaPay,

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taking cards and working with MasterCard and a few other

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such that we give customers comfort around their payment.

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And then payments move from a world of six clicks down

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What were the challenges you were trying to face

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when you tried to create an online payment system?

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Well, the biggest challenge was convincing

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Convincing them that we are not after your customer.

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Our main aim is to ensure that payment happens seamlessly

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on our platform, that customers have a fantastic experience shopping

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and being able to prepay for their products.

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That was the chief executive of Konga talking to Ben Bland. We have

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been asking you what you would like to see being made into reality

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because there is a story in the Telegraph about jet packs being

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brought into the UK as of next year. These other tweaks we have got

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coming in. Very popular our transporters and teleporting, from

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Chris, Steve, Gary and marina. They want the Star Trek transporter,

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which is very specific! You have got to be specific! And Vince says a

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replicator because then you can have whatever you want in any quantity

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whenever you want. To me that sounds dangerous. Extremely dangerous. The

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editor in chief of Investment Weekly is waiting patiently. I would like

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to have hindsight because so many people in the markets say they would

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have done something else with hindsight. Particularly since 2008.

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So you don't fancy one of these? We have a video of how the jet packs

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work. Finally enough, I would, because just getting from Canary

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Wharf to the West End or even the City, in minutes, in seconds

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potentially, and 60 kilometres per hour. These are the ones where they

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are attached. I have seen these already on the Thames. Going over

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the Thames. This new one at the Telegraph is talking about, there is

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no attachment whatsoever. They are looking for more money at the moment

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to make this mass market. They are saying they could get the public

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involved in a James Bond style experience. That will be popular.

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You have got to avoid the drones delivering your goods! There is a

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lot of crowded airspace at the moment over major cities. And this

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tweet says, I would like a smartphone with the battery power I

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require. And have we mentioned Vince? Yes. Marina, teleporting?

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Yes, but only for me and the people I like, she says! Obviously a time

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machine would be great. Imagine the money you could make. That is

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insider trading! If we all knew the numbers for the lottery in a couple

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of days' time, we would get a lion! I word! Lovely. In a Financial

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Times, Uber is offering free rides to solve parking crises in US towns.

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This is called the last mile. Everybody gets off the train that

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comes into the city and then jumps in a taxi, so like park and ride.

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The jet packs would solve that. Uber has this contract. It probably takes

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it out of conflict that it has had with cities around the world. An

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interesting development for Uber. Fascinating to see if they can

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replicated around the world. And whether the private taxi companies

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will start pitching for local authority contracts. You are a man

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of many talents. Beyond investing, you are heavily involved in thinking

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and talking about football. This story caught our attention as well.

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Yes, this is in the Metro. Two of Arsenal's star players are demanding

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?250,000 a week contracts. Where will it end? It is going up and up.

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If I was there aged, I would say they are underpricing themselves.

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Paul Pogba at Manchester United is reputedly on ?395,000 a week. There

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is a lot of competition for European football to go to China and that is

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why prices are going up. I suspect they will get those contracts.

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Lawrence will teleport off somewhere else. We have got to go. That is

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Business Live. Hello once again. A cloudy sphere behind me and with

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good reason. That is one of the factors that will make the date feel

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for

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