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This is Business Live from BBC News with Ben Thompson and Sally Bundock.

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Will France's next President give l'economie some va va voom?

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And will voters opt for radical change like in Britain and the US?

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Live from London, that's our top story on Monday 21st November

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As competition narrows to become the next President,

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we look how the challenges facing one of Europe's biggest economies

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could help to decide the country's next leader.

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Also in the programme: British Prime Minister Theresa May

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will tell business leaders she plans to keep UK's business taxes

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But will it be enough to give British business

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And markets look like this at the start of a new trading week.

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We'll have the expert view on what to watch this week.

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And we'll be getting the inside track on how augmented

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The boss of one company tells us how it could revolutionise the way we

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get around in the great outdoors. And what do bosses believe when you

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have been sick? If you have taken a city, what has been your best

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excuse? Use the hashtag and confess. There are some brilliant excuses in

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that top ten list. The former French leader,

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Nicolas Sarkozy, has been unexpectedly eliminated

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from the contest to choose the centre-right candidate for next

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year's presidential election. He finished third in a nationwide

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vote, behind two former prime ministers, Francois

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Fillon and Alain Juppe. They go to the final round next

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Sunday. With France's Socialists

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in disarray, the presidential election is expected to come down

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to a fight between the centre-right candidate and the far-right

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leader, Marine Le Pen. At the heart of that contest will be

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a battle over improving the lives of France's

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struggling working class. Last week the government

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lowered its growth expectations for this year saying it now

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forecasts just 1.4%. The country's independent watchdog

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says even that figure is optimistic. Meanwhile the unemployment rate

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remains stubbornly high at 9.7%. The former economy minister

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Emmanuel Macron is running He's proposing ditching France's

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35-hour working week for young people in a bid to give

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them more experience. And another big shake-up has been

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pitched by Marine Le Pen She wants a referendum on whether

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France should leave the EU. Tomasz Michalski is

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Associate Professor in Economics Welcome to the programme. First of

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all, your reaction to that result? Nicolas Sarkozy is no longer in the

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frame. First of all, he ran a very divisive campaign and he is not a

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very beloved figure, even among the right. He is remembered as the one

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that did not conduct necessary procedures when he was in charge and

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he had a catastrophic foreign policy. On security grounds, he

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contracted the police force, which sowed the seeds for some attacks

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that were witnessed afterwards. That is what many people believe. Talking

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through those that are still in the frame, Alain Juppe, Francois Fillon,

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Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen, of course. Give us your take on what

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these candidates will be saying about the French economy and how

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important it will be in the spring next year. First of all, the first

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three that you mentioned, they want to reform the system to different

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degrees. The most credible the two because they have popular support

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and representation in the Parliament are Alain Juppe and Francois Fillon.

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They are both suggest the wide-ranging tax and social security

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reform, raising the retirement age, and reducing the expenditure of the

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government by 5% of GDP. And they are paying for this by various other

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cuts, for example in the number of public servants. On the other hand,

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the project of Marine Le Pen is really... I doubt that there is

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anything that can help the French anything that can help the French

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economy. It calls for abandoning the Euro, increasing tariff rates,

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basically reversing globalisation, coming back to the good old 70s,

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which are gone. From your point of view, do you think there is this

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antiestablishment feeling in France to the degree that we have seen in

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the UK and the United States? It has definitely been simmering but the

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successful candidate, Francois Fillon, he rode this tide, taking

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very strong positions on immigration and on Islam in recent weeks. That

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probably put him ahead of Alain Juppe in the last days of the

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contest in the Republican primary. His success doesn't mean that the

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French are suddenly embracing the free market reforms espoused by

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Francois Fillon, but the position of Nicolas Sarkozy in 2007 and now

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Francois Fillon, which they hope to use to their favour and therefore

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depressed the national front, -- depressed the national front vote

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outcome will stop thank you very much.

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This morning, Theresa May will tell business leaders she plans to keep

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UK corporation tax at the lowest rate of the group of 20

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The Prime Minister will also pledge an extra ?2bn, roughly $2.5bn,

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a year into funding for scientific research and development by 2020.

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Mrs May's speech to the Confederation of British Industry

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in London comes two days before the government delivers its first

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post-EU referendum budget, in the form of the Autumn Statement.

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Facebook says it will expand its presence in the UK by 50 per

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cent when it opens its new London headquarters next year.

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It will hire 500 additional employees, including engineers,

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marketers, project managers and sales staff.

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There has been speculation following the UK referendum vote

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to leave the EU that international companies may reconsider investing

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Bernie Ecclestone, the chief executive of Formula One, has

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suggested to German media that the authorities in Singapore

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may look at dropping the F1's only night race,

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when the hosting contract ends next year.

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This year's F1 race in Singapore attracted the lowest

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number of ticket sales since it was first launched

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We wanted to take you to the Business Live page but we are having

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a technical problem this morning. We can show it to you this way. This is

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news from Greg Clark, all related to what we are expecting to hear in the

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Autumn Statement on Wednesday. The Autumn Statement, you may know, is

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the first tax and spending plans that we will hear from the new

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Chancellor Philip Hammond when he takes to his feet on Wednesday. Ray

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Clark is the Business Secretary. He is talking about the various stories

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out there. -- Greg Clark. We will talk about that in more detail later

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when we are joined by James. But first let's focus on the

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Asia-Pacific region. They have closed their annual summit in Peru,

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pledging to support global trade. But the conference was

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overshadowed by fears the Trans Pacific Partnership trade

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deal may not have a future Nice to see you. So much to discuss

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there. Talk us through some of the key points. Remember, the

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Asia-Pacific economic cooperation has always been for trade

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liberalisation. They have a long-term goal to take the 21 nation

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bloc to a free-trade zone including all of them. At the end of the two

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day meeting the communiqu was to vow to keep trade borders open and

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to fight protectionism, but really the media issue was what will happen

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to the Obama backed transpacific partnership? Now that Donald Trump

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is the US President elect he has talked about killing the deal which

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is to be ratified by ComRes in the US, despite no support from the

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incoming administration, some think it could go through. -- ratified by

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Congress in the US. A modified version might still be possible.

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Whatever is certain, whatever happens, China is standing by with a

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trade deal for Asia, the regional comprehensive partnership. We will

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watch that closely. Thank you for explaining it. It is a very

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important issue for trade in the region and we will watch it closely.

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Shares in Tokyo rose to a fresh 10-month high at the start

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of a new week as the dollar soared against the yen on expectations

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the Federal Reserve will hike interest rates next month.

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In Europe, the numbers look like this.

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This could be the start of another week where politics will dominate

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proceedings. There will be more discussion over the President-elect

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and what his Cabinet would mean and the French elections we have been

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discussing and also the tax and spending plans from a new

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Chancellor. We will talk about that in a moment but first let's get the

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details about the day ahead on Wall Street. Thursday marks thanks giving

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in the US, where family and friends gather, share a meal and share time

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together. The day after Thanksgiving is Black Friday, the retail event of

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the year. It is the time that traditionally kicks off the holiday

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shopping season. But that comes at the end of the week. Before then,

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Fed watchers will get a little gift in the form of minutes from the

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policy reserve meeting. And also a Norman Rockwell painting depicting

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an undecided voter during the 1944 presidential election between

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Franklin Roosevelt and Republican candidate Thomas Dewey. That

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painting is up for auction and it is called Which One? And Decided Man In

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Voting Booth. And it has an estimate of $4 million. And I mentioned James

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and here he is. How are you? I am magnificent. I am not crying off

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today. No sickie pulled by James! Keep your text messages coming in on

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that. Some good ones so far. What are you watching? In the UK we are

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assessed with the Autumn Statement on Wednesday and we have got Theresa

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May speaking at the CBI today. Absolutely and we have market

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economies that have got to be focused onto element and

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improvement. It is all very well to talk about growth but in a world

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with shrinking populations and real challenges between the balance

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between manufacturing and services, we have got to put economies on the

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right path to greater prosperity. I do think Philip Hammond and Mrs May

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will want to take the opportunity to try to set an agenda for forward

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growth. We have talked about this a lot but central banks are running

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out of options to kick-start growth. Are they passing this back to

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government policy to kick-start growth? They have run out of

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reducing interest rates and printing money. It was always wrong to assume

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central banks can do anything other than push on a piece of string.

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Monetary policy was always necessary but not sufficient to generate

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growth. We need two initiatives, including fiscal support to get the

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economy moving again with extra spending, but given the high levels

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of government debt, we actually need the private sector to take up the

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running. For that we need better infrastructure, good quality

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education, both long-term investments, and a reduction in the

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regulation and red tape that holds up businesses from creating wealth.

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Will they deliver this week? I think we will see the first signs that the

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government is focused on trying to engineer a longer-term solution to

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the problems in the British economy. James Wilby back. Thank you. For now

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he has got to respond to the sickie story. Theresa May will speak at the

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CBI conference in exactly an hour from now, 9:45am local time, and

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there will be full coverage from the BBC on that. Still to come: We will

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be meeting the firm rethinking the way we get around. The boss of this

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award-winning navigation firm will tell us why we will never look at

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the map in the same way again. This is Business Live from BBC News. More

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on that speech coming shortly from Theresa May one. She is at the CBI

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annual conference today. And as well as that tax story we have been

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talking about, expecting her to announce ?2 billion for science

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funding, in a bid to convince business leaders that the UK is open

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for business. She will face a sceptical audience of course and

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delegates at the conference are likely to want more clarity on the

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government's Brexit plans. Also their tone when it comes to big

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business. Simon is at the conference for us, our business editor. It is a

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tricky audience for her. It will be interesting to hear what she has got

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to say. Well she rattled a few cages when

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she called out bad behaviour and made thinly veiled reference to say

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certain business leaders. What she is going to say is listen, there is

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the bargain on the table here. I will make the UK a good place to do

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business. A new commitment to keeping taxes low and small research

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and development spending that ?2 billion that she will mention today.

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Call out bad corporate behave yor and don't pay yourself too much.

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Worker representations on board and things like that, but the other

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thing that's hard to reconcile she is going around the world to say we

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want to be a champion for international trade. That was the

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problem. You saw that in the referendum in the UK and the

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election result in the US. To resolve that conflict you need a

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conventionalist industrial strategy. So the Government is saying we are

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not going to step back and let you get on with it, we are going to step

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up and make sure we give you the tools to do your job, but you have

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to behave yourself in return. That speech will be live on BBC News

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Channel when she does take to the stage at the CBI conference. That's

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the Prime Minister, of course. A stoiyard from Bonmarche. It is

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going to target women and it has come up with model customers, Susan,

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Linda, Margaret and Joan and it will favour Lisa instead. It is ditching

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the rest and going for Lisa! Not a Sally in sight!

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Our top story, two former prime ministers in France will face each

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other in a run-off election to decide who will be

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the centre-right candidate in next year's presidential election.

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They are Francois Fillon and Alain Juppe came first

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and second in the first round of the presidential primary

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We shall be covering that, the general election in the spring of

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next year. Election fever everywhere.

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A quick look at how markets are faring.

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The FTSE 100 up a quarter of one percent.

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You might have heard of augmented reality,

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not least because of the Pokemon Go craze.

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It's a mix of real life settings with computer generated elements.

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But it's not just confined to games as our next guest can explain.

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ViewRanger is a GPS company mapping app which provides users

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with directions by superimposing information onto the image captured

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The software currently covers around 80% of the globe and is used

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by over three million users including search and rescue teams.

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The app is free to download, though users can pay

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Many of the maps are Ordnance Survey maps. That's the kind of map that

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you will see on your device. Craig Wareham is CEO

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and co-founder of ViewRanger. Good morning, Craig. Good morning.

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You were showing me this app on various devices to sort of have a

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sense of how it works. I was saying, being someone who tries to use

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Ordnance Survey maps and sometimes it is successful and the fact that

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there is one there on a device which will show me where I am an the map

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is a huge benefit. Normally I have no idea where you are! That's the

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beauty of using those kind of maps on the digital device is it can

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instantly show you where you are so you know where you are, you know

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where you're going. You know which mountain is in front of you. That's

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what we're doing with the augmented reality, you can hold up your camera

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phone and it automatically labels the hills and the lakes around you.

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It answers that age old question of what is that hill over there? Is

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that Ben Nevis or not? Well, exactly. It is about making the

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outdoor trips more engaging and more interesting. It is about the

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experience of going outdoors. How does this vary from Google Maps or

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Apple Maps that can pinpoint where you are and tell you when you turn

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around with a compass what you're looking at. Tell me the difference.

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So we're targeted and we're focussed on the outdoor recognise rational

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experience. Hopefully inspire you where you want to go, giving you

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good navigation which is where the maps and skyline augmented reality

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come in. Who is this aimed at? Is this for recreational users or

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search and rescue teams who use it? Our users are spread across both of

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those. We started as very map focussed and targeting the

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enthusiast and the search and rescue teams have adopted it widely, but

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just as the outdoor market is shifting to be about this active

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outdoor lifestyle, you know, we are seeing that represented in our

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community as well, and you know, this is a mainstream activity.

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People go walking. People go hiking and people go cycling around the

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world. A huge boost for your boost was in September when Apple had its

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big launch event and you were there, you were part of it. Launched this

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as a part of the Watch, as a part of its new devices, but you're on

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android as well. How important was that moment? Presumably for a

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company that I had not heard of, it was a big deal? It was a unique

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experience, yes. An exciting experience. So we were invited to go

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on stage as part of the Apple Watch launch and demonstrate our app on

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the Apple Watch. I have been told we are the only UK company to have been

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on stage with Apple in that situation. And you know, it is a

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huge worldwide audience for us, great exposure and of course, we

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have seen our community grow rapidly. That's important because

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there is so many mapping apps out there? There are few that are doing

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what we do and doing it on a global stage, but it was a fantastic

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opportunity. What do you want to hear from the Chancellor on

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Wednesday as far as tech business in the UK is concerned? More funding

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support and bringing through better educated students. Wonderful. Thank

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you. Really nice to see you, Craig. Best of luck with it.

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It derided as "the worst" when Japanese start up

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Seven Dreamers revealed a laundry folding machine at least

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Some critics called it ridiculous, frivolous, and a waste

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But Panasonic clearly think otherwise - they've invested

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How about the laundroid, a robot that folds your laundry?

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Apparently we can save 375 days over a lifetime by not having

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So laundroid here can recognise the shape of the garment

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This sleek wardrobe-sized carbon-fibre casing hides

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The company says the clever bit is using image analysis

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to recognise whether you've shoved in a sock or a shirt.

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Then once laundroid knows what it's working with,

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it can concentrate on the gentle art of folding!

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Whatever it's doing, it's very quiet.

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Would you use that machine? I wish I did. It looks impressive. Do you

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iron your own shirts, James snr Nouf say no. The best excuses for calling

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in sick according to your boss. They have gone through the excuses that

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came in and compiled a list of the ones most feasible and most

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reasonable and most believable. 42% of bosses think that flu is a good

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reason to skip work. Flu, back pain. Migraine is high up there. Simon

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says, "Someone I work with said they had a broken leg. They e-mailed in

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an x-ray of the broken leg." But we searched online and found an image

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of the broken leg. I imagine with a broken leg, that's some excuse. You

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have got weeks in plaster pretending when it is broken and it is not. You

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have got to be on a real trip of self indulgence to play that one!

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James, let's look at some other stories. There is another story

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about the French economy. The French hamburger, should I say. What are

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they doing to make it more... There is a major divide between fast-food

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and proper restaurant food and because many people grow up eating

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fast-food, they want to go to a restaurant where there is something

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that is similar to what they are used to and there have always been

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up market hamburgers and the French are saying we're going to get more

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customers if we play the game that the customer likes and instead of

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having extraordinary things, we will give them a burger and it will be an

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up market burger. It is also about competing with the more up market

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chains. It is about the quite nearby and specific burger places that

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charge a fortune just for a burger? And foot fall is high and people

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want them. There you have it. France getting on board as it were. We have

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a quick comment from you about the week on the markets. We've got that

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statement on Wednesday. We have got Theresa May speaking today. How will

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the UK markets fair this week, do you think? The markets are going to

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be very focussed on not just the UK domestic agenda for trying to

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generate growth, but also what is coming out of the United States

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because we are clearly looking forward to hearing more of Mr Trump

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he is agenda. We have the Federal Reserve on 14th December and that

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will be a huge focus. Thank you James for coming in. I appreciate

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it. We've never called in sick. Bye-bye.

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Good morning, well, it is a hard frost at

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