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This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock

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US president-elect Donald Trump says Britain will be at the front

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of the queue when it comes to striking a trade

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Live from London, that's our top story on Monday 16th January.

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US president-elect Donald Trump says UK 'doing great' after Brexit vote

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but he threatens a huge tariff on BMW cars imported from Mexico.

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Plus, prosecutors in South Korea are seeking the arrest

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of the head of Samsung, who's accused of bribery.

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And we have the latest on the markets where the pound has

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And we'll be getting the inside track on the world of events apps.

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They're great for their users but is it actually possible to make

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We'll be speaking to the boss of Revl This weekend the owner

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of a Tesla car ended up stranded when he relies on his

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Today we want to know what's your worst technology mishap?

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Let us know, just use the hashtag BBCBizLive.

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The US President Elect Donald Trump says he'll offer Britain

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what he calls "a quick and fair trade deal" within weeks

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His comments come just days before a speech by the UK

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Prime Minister Theresa May where she's expected to reveal

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further details of the country's strategy as it prepares to leave

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Speaking to The Times newspaper, Mr Trump said his team would "work

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very hard to get it done quickly and properly" and it would be

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Mr Trump went on to say the UK had made the right decision in leaving

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the European Union and that other countries were likely to follow

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Meanwhile, in a separate interview with the German newspaper Bild,

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the US President Elect threatened BMW with a 35% border tax for cars

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Last week, the German carmaker said it was committed to its plans

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to open up its new factory in San Luis Potosi, despite

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Let's have a listen to what the billionaire businessman

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said in his interview with the Times.

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I thought the UK was so smart in getting out. You were there and you

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wrote it for the front-page. You said Trump said Brexit would happen

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and it happened. Everybody thought I was crazy. Obama said they'll go to

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the back of the line, meaning if it does happen... That was a bad

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statement. The front of the queue? I think you are doing great. It's

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going great and countries want their own identity. The UK wanted its own

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identity but I do believe this. If they hadn't been forced to take in

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all of the refugees, so many, with all the problems that that entails,

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I think that you Dr Brian Klaas is a fellow

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in Comparative Politics Let us start with the British angle.

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He can't do a quick deal can he, when I say quick, he can't even

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begin to start talking for two years can he? He's one of three branches

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of the American government, he's not the person in charge of the economy

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and most deals take time to thrash out. We don't know how much latitude

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Britain will have while trying to figure out the parameters of the

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Brexit deal. While still a member of the EU Britain can't talk or

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negotiate a deal? Correct. There's also the question of how long that

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process is going to take. Beyond that, let us think about other trade

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deals the US has done. The TPP, which is probably dead in the water

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now, has been going on for eight years. These are multinational

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deals, so there are other countries involved, but this would be just two

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countries? There is no fast-track to this and this is something what

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happens in years and not weeks. BMW, he's been sabre rattling and BMW

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said they'll continue to build cars in Mexico? That is right. I think a

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lot of global players in the world economy are going to continue to

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push back because again, sabre-rattling goes both ways. It's

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not just that BMW could stand up to Trump but the German Government

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could stand up to America. This is not just something where America's

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President dictates the terms of trade to everyone else and they just

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accept it. In terms of what he's said here, do you think this whole

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effect tonne car industry of trying to impose tariffs, how damaging sit

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to the car industry itself? I think long-term it's very damaging to have

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a President Elect or President who is picking winners and losers and

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not letting companies decide on their best business interests, the

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best return on investments. I think over time this will end up being

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counterproductive. It will not make the kind of long-term economic

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growth that Western Europe needs. What about being able to use the

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trade deficit with China? He's going to try to make that a homework of

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his presidency. He's going to change the fundamental dynamics of the

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world economy. There are reasons why there is a trade deficit. The

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President Elect can't wave a magic wand and make incentives for

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businesses change radically overnight.

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Now, his ability to push across, you can call them protectionist, he'll

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call them nationalist trade stances, how able is he to bring along

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congress behind him to do these things. He says he can do it, but

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it's congress in the end that has to do it? Congress has to be on board.

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We have decades of Republicans standing up to this. Reagan's party

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was the party of free trade and in a way this will be interesting, how

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can he get people who've predicated their political careers on free

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trade on the political stage to come along with protectionist idea and a

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radical shift in diplomacy in terms of economics. Thank you very much.

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Facebook is introducing new tools in Germany to help combat the spread

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The world's largest social network said it would enable German users

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to flag up stories which appear to be fabricated.The stories

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will then be passed to third-party fact-checkers and if found to be

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unreliable, will be marked in users' news feeds as disputed.

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Shares of airbag maker Takata are tumbling

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after the company announced a deal with the US government.

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The Japanese firm will pay a billion dollars and plead guilty to criminal

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wrongdoing over its airbags, which have been linked

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On Friday shares rose more than 16 percent but today fell as much

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The news is dominated by Trump today and the fall in the pound. Also,

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Davos has a page. Talking about the rich people. The gathering of

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bigwigs they say. In Dasos. That is under way. We are live there

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tomorrow morning I believe. We'll cover it all week. We'll speak to

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some of the bigwigs. Tanya Beck is there for us. She's a bigwig. She

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is! Now, let us talk about what is going on in South Korea. A massive

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story breaking today is the news that the de facto head of Samsung

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has been calld into question at the end of last week. They have now

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asked for his arrest. Over to South Korea and let's talk

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to Kevin Kim. What is the latest? Samsung is believed to have signed

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an $18 million contract in 2015 with a company controlled by the close

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friend of the impeached South Korean President and prosecutors have

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argued that this payment was an act of bribery. The company's being

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investigated, whether the millions of dollars was in return for getting

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a merger through of two of its companies to help strengthen the

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family hold of Sam shuck. Last week, Mr Lei was summoned and questioned

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for almost 24 hours. The prosecutors now believe that they have enough

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evidence to request to detain Mr LLee and an arrest warrant has been

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filed. Give me an idea of the kind of damage that's been done here --

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Mr Lee. I've been reading stories of people saying it's not just damage

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to Samsung but it could be to the entire economy? That would be the

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argument that Samsung would like to make. The court has yet to accept

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the warrant and it has a few days to consider. If Mr Lee does get

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detained, it will be a big blow to the image of the company. Samsung is

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one of the biggest companies in the world and, for the head of the

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company involved in a corruption scandal would be very bad for the

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company. The company suffered another fiasco involving mobile

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phones that would explode during charging, but the news involving the

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head of Samsung possibly being detained could be seen to be far

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more devastating than the phone recall from last year.

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Kevin Kim thank you very much. Let us have a look at markets in

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Asia in general which were reacting to a great degree to what Donald

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Trump had to say. The markets have disappeared for some reason. The

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Japanese markets were down by 1%. The dollar weakening and the Yen

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strengthening, affecting exporters listed in Tokyo. The other big

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effect is in anticipation of what Theresa May is going to say in her

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speech this week about how the UK intends to depart in defrom the

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European Union. The pound is falling significantly versus the US Dollar.

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The FTSE 100 fairly flat at the moment. Let me hand you back to

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Jamie to talk some more about these markets. We are going to be talking

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to Jeremy Cooke Chief Economist at the World First.

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The pound goes down, FTSE goes up, that is normal, but it doesn't seem

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to be happening like that today? Not so much. We are waiting to see what

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is said on Theresa May's speech, we have the pound falling through

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Sunday into today, a speech by Mark Carney later today too. Most

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importantly, inflation numbers from the UK economy over the course of

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this week as well. We have seen a near 20% fall off the value of the

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pound since Brexit or since the vote for Brexit. Will we see that being

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represented in prices we pay in the shops. It also is to a degree isn't

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it, it's represented in petrol prices and energy? The protection

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contracts that have been Bought are starting to run out. It doesn't seem

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to have affected just life in Britain. We are all still going out

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there and spending a huge amount, especially at Christmas. Nothing

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seems to have changed to every day life? It will be interesting to see

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whether that was the last hurrah of Britain. When things get tough,

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Britain goes shopping. It's true. Will consumer credit pick up and

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will people spend the same amount of money on unsecured boar rogue. The

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Bank of England said that is something to watch in 2017.

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Interesting to hear what Mr Carney has to say because he has a

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tightrope to walk. The pound, inflation headed up a bit and also

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of course he's got into a lot of hot water with what he's been saying in

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the mast? They are mandated to keep prices steady -- in the past. And be

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independent as well? Politically independent as well which may have

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been an issue in 2016. If he's seeing inflation run above target...

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He says he's prepared to let it go higher? Run hot is the phrase they

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have been using, is that 2.5, 3 or 4 and when do we feel people put under

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pressure by price rises. Thank you very much. Jeremy is going to reveal

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his worst technology mishap later. I can't think of all of mine. Still to

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come: We'll get the inside track on the world of events apps that let

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you make the most of your downtime, if you have any. We'll find out if

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what they could do for socialising or dating apps have done for

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relationships with business live on the BBC News.

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We are talking retail in the UK. It has been dominating business news

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for over a week. Shop Direct, the owners

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of Littlewoods and Very.co.uk are the latest retailer to put

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out their Christmas results They reported 9% sales

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growth year on year - the fifth year in a row they've had

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a Christmas boost. Andrew Walker is in our

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business newsroom. So really, it is the triumph of

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online shopping really, isn't it? A very strong performance. 9% growth

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in total group sales over the seven week Christmas period. Still

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significant, although modest growth for the year as a whole, 2.4%. And

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of course, one thing that's striking about this business is that it has

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entirely moved away from bricks and mortar and moved away from printed

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catalogues which was nearly three-quarters of the group's sales

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and it is basically an online operation and in those sales, it is

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just short of 70% is actually done on mobile and as the company Chief

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Executive said in this statement, as consume fers reached for their

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mobiles over the Christmas period. That's very much a central part of

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their selling point is that consumers can simply go on to the

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mobile and order there and they are putting effort into developing

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interactive services, chat boxes which can provide the service that

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consumers want through artificial intelligence support services, more

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information through artificial intelligence rather than the

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traditional business of going into a store and asking a real flesh and

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blood assistant. Andrew Walker, thank you.

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One of the latest stories, unions holding talks over the Tube strikes.

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We have got unions holding talks with London Underground today aimed

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at averting strike action on 7th February and also the other story

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we've got here, the pound may surpass flash crash lose as the

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pound continues to go down, there are fear it is might actually go

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below that level of 1.18.41 against the dollar. We will watch that to

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see where it's going. In a wide-ranging interview

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with The Times, Donald Trump said leaving would be a great thing

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and he wanted the US to strike a trade deal

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with the UK as fast it could. It was more than talking about the

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relationship with the UK. A quick look at how

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markets are faring. They are reacting to that interview.

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BMW shares are down over 1% in Frankfurt. All the markets are down.

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London the least. A falling pound is good news for many companies listed

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on the FTSE 100. They are mainly global international companies. A

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weaker pound means they make more money. We are waiting to see what is

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going to be happening with Mark Carney who will be giving a talk

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later on today. The markets are in a wait and see mood.

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Phone-based apps have transformed everything from dating to dining,

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and they're now trying to revolutionise our down time

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as well by taking advantage of the "experience economy".

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In 2014 the US alone generated around 22 billion

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While selling these has been dominated by the likes

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of Ticket Master and Stubhub, a new breed of app are trying

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to tailor experiences to your needs and location using your smart-phone.

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One company that's trying to carve out a slice of this market is Revl

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who offer 148,000 events to their users in London.

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The question remains though can they actually make any money?

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Joining me is Brandon Stephens, co-founder of event discovery app

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Give us an idea about how it works? It is like the Spottedify of events.

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We have partnered with 600 organisations and institutions to

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allow them to broadcast events across the likes of trivia nights at

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your local pub to worldwide tours and... Can't we get that already on

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Time Out or any of the other, lots of apps? Time Out will filter some

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of the information out. They will take the things that are most

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interesting, but we are providing a place that you can find out anything

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going on at any club or pub or museum. If you want to find out

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about the Mere Cat viewing at the London Zoo, we'll have that. That

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sounds time consumer and labour intensive. How can you be across

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everything? With 148,000 events, that is a lot of information. You

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can organise the app so that you find, you take your favourite pubs

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and your favourite clubs... How do you physically make it happen? So we

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are partnering with 17 different ticketing agencies and they are

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providing us with a huge range of content and we are partnering with

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the pubs, clubs and museums so, the National Gallery, the British Museum

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and the Houses of Parliament are uploading events and that open

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platform where anybody can publish events is what builds this list.

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That's all right for big organisations and big chains, but

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what about my local pub which is just having a quiz night, can I find

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out about that? You can. It depends if it puts the information into your

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system? We are going out and partnering with all these guys. As

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an app that launched a week ago, we have been able to bring this

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critical mass of partners to put together the content. How do you

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make money? Mainly through advertising. With a comedian or

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comedy promoter wants to list their event at the top of the comedy

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channel, we provide them with that facility. 90% of all start-ups fail.

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At what point do you know you're going to be a something ses? I don't

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think you ever know. You mean Facebook is still worrying? I have

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been through a start-up before and you never feel confident you've

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reached that hurdle. We are making sure we continue to build. If we

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find out about your history, you and your wife are a team that have

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founded this with another individual. Silicon Valley-based.

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You've ran a few companies already and been fairly successful. Are you

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banking on that experience really, I assume to make sure this works? We

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are banking on our experience, but we put together an incredible team

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that's behind us that's bringing it to bear. How many does it to take

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run to something like this? We have 17 employees. That's a lot of

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people. You have got to fund 17 salaries. I was thinking, back to a

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question I was asking, when do you start making money? You start making

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money now. We have some degree of revenue that's coming in on this

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point on the commission of certain tigting sales, but it will continue

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to grow as we build a larger user base. Bringing together that amount

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of content, what we're banking on is the content will drive people being

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excited about downloading the app and with that comes the advertising

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revenue. OK, thank you very much indeed.

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All the best. Thank you very much. We will keep an eye.

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In a moment we'll take a look through the Business Pages but first

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whenever you need to know. We were having a debate about

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whether 17 is a big number or not! It is getting big. When you're

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responsible for 17 salaries, it keeps you awake at night! It's a lot

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of people. Anyway, Jeremy is back. We're going to lose time here. So

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Jeremy, let's talk about the story, the Tesla car. First of all, tell us

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about what happened to begin with. And then we'll discuss some of our

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technology mishaps? Tesla cars you can turn it on using your

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smartphone. This guy who owns a Tesla car took it out to take some

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photos of the snow in the US, drove into a canyon leaving his car key at

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home. Took photos and took some lovely photos and got back in the

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car and couldn't turn his car back on because there was no cell signal.

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That would happen a lot in this country. Even places like Clapham

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where you can't get two bars. What happened to you? Uploading

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personal photos on Twitter. I ordered a disco ball for my son for

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his party and it arrived and it was this big and it was powered by one

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AA battery. We came up with a plan. Stephen says, "I left eBay and a

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colleague clicked buy it now on a ?47,000 plane! " That's brilliant.

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Let's talk about this deal in the Financial Times, it is a 50 billion

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euro merger. Jamie and I had to admit we haven't heard of either of

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these companies and yet they are behind Ray Ban? Every pair of

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fashionable sunglasses come from either of these companies. These two

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are quietly getting on a day when they are not mentioned on a day when

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everyone is talking about Mr Trump? A 50 billion euro tie up. The amount

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of people who don't wear glasses... Two European companies, Italian and

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French. Look the brand names, they have Chanel Sun Glass Hut. I wonder

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if Mr Trump will put taxes on importing those into the States?

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That's it from Business Live today. There will be more business news on

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BBC News. See you tomorrow. Good morning to you. This week is

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going to be very different compared to what we had last week. Much

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milder. Certainly no snow in the forecast and there is no winter on

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