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This is Business Live from BBC News with Sally Bundock and Rachel Horne.

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The United States pulls out of what could be one of the world's

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biggest free trade deals, but Australia and New Zealand

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says that doesn't mean its dead in the water.

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Live from London, that's our top story

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The Trans-Pacific Partnership was set to cover 40%

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Will the other 11 nations go ahead without the US? Or can it be

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replaced by bilateral deals that Donald Trump says he wants?

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despite corruption allegation and exploding phones, Samsung

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records its highest quarterly profit in four years.

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And we'll be getting the inside track on the wearable

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tech which doesn't just track your heart rate

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but also tells a woman when she's at her most fertile.

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When you listen to music do you think about the performer?

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As Jay Z sells a stake in his artist led music streaming service, Tidal,

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we want to know, do fans care about the artist or the access?

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Thank you already for those of you who have tweeted about Jay-Z,

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nothing we can say out loud on the BBC, so send in some comments we can

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read out! Let's first of all start with what is going on in terms of

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global trade. The United States are out,

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but Japan, Australia and New Zealand say their big free trade deal

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can go ahead anyway. The Trans-Pacific Partnership

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was aimed at boosting the economics of 12 nations around

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the Pacific Ocean. But the new US President Donald

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Trump has used his first working day in the White House to sign

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an executive order pulling The Trans-Pacific Partnership

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covered about 40% of the world's economy and could

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have added $100 billion That was what they said and

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predicted. It was signed by 12 nations

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in the Pacific area at a ceremony in New Zealand

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last year. The painstaking negotiations

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took seven years, but one reason implementation

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was delayed was the failure China was the biggest

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economy to not be included, and it was widely viewed

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as a way to cement trade relations without

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Beijing's influence. now wants to negotiate trade deals

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on a country-to-country basis, with a 30-day cancellation clause

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"in case somebody misbehaves". Here's what he said

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about the withdrawal. We have been talking about this for

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a long time. OK. A great thing for the American

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worker, what we just did. That was the President of the United States,

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Donald Trump. With me is Savita Subramanian,

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head of US equity and quantitative strategy at Bank of America

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Merrill Lynch Global Research. You've got a longer title than he

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has! Let's go back to basics, why has Donald Trump polled the US out

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of this deal? I think he just said it, it is about US jobs, and he is

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wasting no time in fulfilling some of his campaign promises to create

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US jobs growth. So I think that, you know, President Trump is focused on

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the US worker, he is focused on bringing back jobs to the US, and

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the TPP represented a threat to the average US worker. I think this is

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another example of a policy that is good for the mainstream, not

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necessarily good for Wall Street, because if you think about the US

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stock market, most of them are multinational companies that have

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expanded margins from off shoring their businesses and setting up

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facilities overseas. But I think that Trump's motivation and input is

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here is jobs growth, that is what he is focused on. And is that the

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feeling, that it will work? We had figures last week suggesting a huge

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proportion of the jobs that America has lost in recent years are due to

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automation, machines - rather than outsourcing to other countries. It

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is a complicated problem, and the thread of global overtaking the US

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is not the only reason that jobs have gone awake in the US. Man has

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been replaced by machines in many industries, which is inherently

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deflationary, but I think what the administration is focused on at some

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level is creating some healthy inflation which, you know,

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protectionist policies generally, initially, inflationary, and good

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for the economy. The risk is, we import a little under $500 billion

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worth of goods from China. Our economy is made up, 15% of it, is

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exports. So the risk is that, will this cramp growth down the road? It

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is good for wage inflation and the US consumer, it creates confidence,

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but will it actually hurt growth down the road? That is what we are

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more worried about from the market perspective. One of Obama's main

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drivers with the TPP was to try to encourage American influence in this

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region, and China was not included. Is Donald Trump running the risk of

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being like the bride who leaves her groom at the altar, everyone else

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has stepped forward, they are ready to sign the deal, and when he

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doesn't turn up, in terms of damaging relationships with other

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countries and leaving a gap for China to come in, is that a concern?

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I'm not a political historian or political economist, but I think

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that, you know, certainly the rationale for TPP initially was to

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sort of prohibited that thread. I think, from a market perspective,

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what this represents is risk to multinationals, and it is probably

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too soon to say whether the other too soon to say whether the other

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countries can bind together and create a realistic and powerful

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union amongst themselves if the US is neglected from it and we try to

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negotiate one-time deals, if we have enough negotiating power, this could

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work. OK, thank you very much for joining us.

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Let's have a look at some other stories.

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Shares in BT have fallen by 15% on the news it has taken a hit of

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around $180 million after uncovering inappropriate accounting behaviour

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at its Italian division. The telecoms giant said

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an internal review had found a complex set of improper sales,

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purchase and leasing transactions. BT has now cut its revenue,

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earnings and free cash flow forecasts for this year

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and next year. So shares in London down by 15% on

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that story. Yahoo has posted a 15% rise

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in revenues to nearly $1.5 billion for its fourth quarter,

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compared to the previous year. is being investigated by the US

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Securities and Exchange Commission Yahoo is in the process

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of being bought by US telecoms giant Verizon

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for about $4.8 billion but has now

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said the deal won't be completed until at least the second

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quarter of this year. And back to South Korea,

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where LG Display is also doing well. It reported a record fourth-quarter

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operating profit of just over $778 million due to

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a pick-up in panel prices. The world's biggest liquid-crystal

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display maker said the profit was caused by the upward trend

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of panel prices and We have covered Samsung a lot on

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this programme recently, and for all the wrong reasons, including

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exploding phones and corruption claims surrounding the boss of the

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firm. Today we have some good news, because despite all of that, the

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electronics giant, that side of the business, saw profits jump by $7.2

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billion in the last three months of last year. Mariko Oi is in

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Singapore, I bet they are breathing a temporary sigh of relief, for now

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at least, at Samsung. Indeed, Sally, I think it is fair to say that not

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many were expecting such strong numbers, but Samsung managed to more

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than double its operating profit in the last three months of last year.

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And that is because it is important to remember that Samsung doesn't

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just make smartphones, we have been talking about the exploding

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batteries of the galaxy note seven, but Samsung also makes chips, as

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well as panels, and its semiconductor unit did very well,

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and it contributed more than half of the company's quarterly profit, and

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when it comes to smartphone profits, while consumers' trust has not been

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restored yet, some of them started buying cheaper Galaxy phones, which

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helped their profit as well. Challenges still remain, including

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the corruption scandal surrounding the company's boss. Thank you very

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much, Mariko, that is the latest on Samsung.

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In Japan, the markets down, weak dollar, strong yen, do I need to say

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it again? This is how things are going generally, the Dow Jones a

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little bit flat, but not far off that 20,000 mark. A bit further away

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than it was a few weeks ago. A bit of a disappointment about Trump in

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terms of not enough news about pushing growth, pushing jobs to the

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US. Let's look at Europe, treading water to a degree at the moment, we

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have mentioned BT, down in London for very specific reasons, but

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everyone keeping an eye on the pound and the Supreme Court decision,

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which is due in about 50 minutes' time, that is about whether

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Parliament will get a say on the triggering of the Brexit

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negotiations. News out of France about services sector manufacturing,

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a bit of a drop-off in manufacturing sector in France, but still showing

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growth. Let's look ahead to the US, Samira Hussain is on Wall Street

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today. America's number one

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wireless carrier, Verizon, will be reporting earnings and it's

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expected to report yet another decline in quarterly

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revenue, but analysts, will be eager to hear about any

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updates to Verizon's deal to purchase Yahoo

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and whether the recent data breaches Lockheed Martin, the Pentagon's

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number one weapons supplier, is expected to report a rise

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in fourth quarter revenue helped by higher sales

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from the F-35 programme, but it's that programme that drew

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fire from President Trump Interestingly,

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the head of Lockheed Martin was one of a dozen business leaders

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that met with President Trump at the White House on Monday

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discussion tax reform for corporations and reducing

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regulations that impede Thank you, Samira. Joining us is

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Jeremy Stretch, we wanted to start with Turkey, Crete interest rate

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decision due in a couple of hours, and there is a real conflict between

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the government calling for interest rates to be dropped to encourage

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spending, an economist saying, no, we need to curb inflation, give us

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the figures. Inflation is running just above 8.5%, the central bank

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target is 5%, and it is going up because of the fall in the currency,

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it has fallen by 6% against the dollar already this year. We have

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commodity price pressures as well, which are amplified when you

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translate them into Turkish prices. So inflation moving and very

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dramatically. That should mean interest rates will go up, even by

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at least 1% today, but the government is saying something

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completely different, putting a great deal of pressure on the

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central bank governor, so the independence of the central bank is

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really under threat, just adding to the uncertainty for international

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investors. This is the government of President Erdogan, which is one type

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of leadership, but just to say that Turkey, we are familiar with all the

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headwinds, mostly geopolitical. Indeed, we have seen a substantial

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deterioration in the economic backdrop, irrespective of the

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currency movement, a substantial fall in GDP in the third quarter,

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and with the falling currency, the weakness of the economy, it really

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does and align the febrile atmosphere in the country, when of

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course you have the inherent political risk which is making

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investors and stable beyond just the economic dynamics. Another big

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announcement this morning which could impact the markets is the

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decision on whether or not the UK Government can go ahead with Brexit

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from the High Court, what sort of reaction do you think the markets

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are going to have to that? After the speech from the Prime Minister last

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week, you could argue that these events have been somewhat

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superseded, but that is not totally the case, because they could be a

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risk that the devolved parliaments are going to be given some degree of

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say by the Supreme Court. If that were the case, the old Brexit

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timetable could be thrown out of kilter somewhat, and accordingly

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that March 31 deadline that the Prime Minister has self-imposed

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would potentially be under threat, so that would push the whole hard

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Brexit story further into the long grass and could encourage a sterling

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rally. Because Scotland and Northern Ireland, Wales as well, all saying

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they don't want Brexit, and that would be their opinion if they were

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given the opportunity by the Supreme Court. Of course, but not only that,

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the picture is even more complicated in Northern Ireland because of the

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upcoming election, so that delays the process even further. If there

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were a role for the devolved parliaments, that throws the

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timetable into doubt. If not, if we are merely left with saying, we're

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going to go back to Parliament and the Government puts in a short bill,

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pushing through with it quickly, than the market reaction should be

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relatively modest, but it is a case of the devil in the detail this

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morning. OK, Jeremy Stretch, thank you for joining us this morning.

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You're with Business Live from BBC News.

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And now a look at some of the stories from around the UK.

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We have mentioned the Brexit and the Supreme Court ruling.

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Dixons Carphone, Britain's largest electricals

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and mobile phone retailer, beat forecasts for Christmas trading.

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The group's chief executive officer, Sebastian James, joins us now.

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Thank you for making the time to see us. I'm sure you're pleased to see

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us given the results you've issued. Why do you think the results went

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up? Christmas has become promotional trading. Since Black Friday took

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off, it is about can you put fantastic deals in front of

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customers. Because we're big and we plan this a year ahead, we put

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ground-breaking offers in front of people and I think they reacted well

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to that. It is about pricing, isn't it? With sterling weakness, are you

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poised to put your prices up because you will be forced to, frankly? We

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are a bit different to other industries because our products

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actually deflate over time. So the same TV, next year is likely to cost

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than it did this year. On the other hand new technologies come in and

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they are not really comparable. Although it is a mathematical truth

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that it will take more pounds to buy more dollars and therefore the kit

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that we buy, I don't think it will feel inflationary to our customers.

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You said that generating a successful Christmas means planning

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from January. Have you started planning from now and are you going

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to stick to Black Friday? We have seen lots of companies, some big

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named companies who didn't get involved this year, it did well for

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you this year, but is that something that's going to continue to be part

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of your strategy? Yes, we definitely think it is. We love Black Friday.

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We plan it well ahead. We work closely with our suppliers and we do

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huge volumes during Black Friday. We sold a Dyson cordless hoover every

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five seconds during our Black Friday period and it is a promotion that we

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love. For now, thank you for your time,

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the boss of Dixons car phone. That's a company that is doing well. Good

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results. Two companies that have come out with bad thus that have hit

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markets, BT and easyJet. We've mentioned BT. EasyJet though, its

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shares dropping 7%. It has warned again about its profits being hit by

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the weakness of sterling. EasyJet had to warn before today and another

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warning coming through from the low-cost carrier. More news on our

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website. Australia and New Zealand have said

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they believe a big free-trade deal, which America's President Trump

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has just abandoned, The Trans-Pacific Partnership

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would have covered about 40% of the world economy if all 12

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signatories had gone ahead. Will the 11 go ahead regardless? The

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markets are threading water. Pretty flat. Some sharp movements from

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companies like easyJet and BT, but keep a close eye on London and the

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pound sterling as we get that result from the Supreme Court which is due

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in about 40 minutes. Now let's get the inside track

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on the wearable tech You can use devices to track

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everything from physical activity to sleep and exposure

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to sunlight, and it's women are the leading consumers

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in the wearable-tech health space. The wearable tech market

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exceeded $2 billion in 2015, 61% of all devices in

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the wearable tech market are health trackers,

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and women make up most users. Ava Fertility is one company hoping

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to take advantage of these numbers. So they have developed

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a bracelet that tracks a women's fertility simply

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by monitoring heart rate. The company claims it can detect

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fertile days in a women's menstrual Joining now is the co-founder and

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Chief Executive of the firm Ava Science which makes the tracking

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device. She has got it on. You were just looking at it. So what's so

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special about this device? Ava is really the first wearable device

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that you can use to track your menstrual cycle. So far, when a

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woman wanted to track her menstrual cycle, she had to, you know, pee on

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sticks ten times a month and get up to take her temperature and it was

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really difficult and really inaccurate and now we've solved this

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with a wearable. Just hold it up to the camera, Ava, so the viewers can

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see it. My first thought was, are you going to wear that? It is an

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obvious sign to everyone around you that you're trying to make a baby

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and for a woman, a career woman, that maybe not the signal you want

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to give to your bosses? Ava is only worn during the night. So you only

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wear it while you're sleeping and during the nine it tracks

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parameters. What you do is really simple. You wear it and in the

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morning you sync with your phone and you have all the information on your

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phone. This is an emotive area, people trying for a baby. Sometimes

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they can feel vulnerable and they will try anything to make it work.

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What scientific evidence have you got to try and back up your device?

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So, really, our researcher is the core of what we're doing as a

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company. We have finalised a first clinical study in Switzerland where

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we can show 89% accuracy. We are running our second clinical study

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and to further improve the results and to broaden the scope of the

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product. And venture capitalists are backing you, you've raised $10

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million, you're established in the US. Thousands have bout this device

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and you're launching in the UK and Europe. Tell us what else can it

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tell you? Can it tell you for example what sex for example? That

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kind of thing? Rachel and I have got six boys between us! You were really

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successful in doing what we're doing! It doesn't tell you that,

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does it? That's just a mystery? T-actually is a mystery. At the

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moment there is no research how you can determine the sex of your baby,

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but really Ava is helping you to not only detect your fertile days, but

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gives you insights in other health per ram terse and it helps you

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understand how you sleep and your stress levels and the hormonal

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changes during your menstrual cycle, if you want to understand what signs

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your body is sending you all the time. Very fascinating. Thank you

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for coming in. Lots of interest in there I'm sure.

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So far the tweets we've received from you about Jay Z and Tidal, we

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can't say out loud because they are too rude. Near negative. Tidal was a

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music streaming service launched at the same time as others like

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Spotify, but it was regarded as a vanity project for Jay Z and

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Beyonce. You got Beyonce's music and that was the reason to do it, but it

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was a bit of a flop commercially and it was losing $28 million, it

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claimed it had three million users and Spotify has 40 million users and

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most people thought it only had about one million. They pitched it

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as this is the artist leading the way here, we're fighting against

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Spotify that's ripping us off? Artists hate Spotify. It is hard to

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get money ot of Spotify unless you get millions of plays. Lots of

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artists including Taylor Swift have gone away from Spotify claiming it

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doesn't pay them enough. The viewers are not bothered anyway? No, I don't

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think they are. What they want is cheap music. They just want the

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songs. And preferably for free. Let's talk about a Happy Meal? A-guy

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charged with reviving McDonald's in the States is a Brit who did very

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well turning around McDonald's ten or 15 years ago. He brought in the

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fresh food and the better coffee and he was promoted by McDonald's to do

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the same thing in America two years ago, he replaced a guy called Don

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Thompson. One of the things he does is does an all-daybreak fast. It

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hasn't really worked. Sales are down 1.3%. Wow.

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Give him time. That's it from Business Live. There will be more

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business news throughout the day. See you soon. Bye-bye.

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Good morning. We've had contrasting weather

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conditions so far today. It has been mild and cloudy to the north and the

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west, but fog still an issue, not as widespread as yesterday. However, in

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one or two spots it may linger for much of the day and if that happens,

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well then, temperatures will struggle

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