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Hello, this is Business Live from BBC News with Susannah Streeter and

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Rachel Horne. Chancellor Merkel makes the case for trade, the German

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leader is on her way to Washington to meet President Trump with

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business at the top of their gender. Live from London, that is the top

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story on Friday the 17th of March. -- their agenda.

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Will be two leaders be able to overcome the bitter rhetoric on

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currency valuations and trade deficits? Also in the programme, we

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sleepwalking into a world of low productivity? We will look at how a

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lack of sleep could be making the global economy dozy. And other

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markets dozy this morning? This is the picture in Europe at the open,

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the FTSE 100 up again following on from a record close once again

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yesterday. And we will be getting the inside

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track on what the rising cost of borrowing in the US could mean for

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the rest of the world, and the car industry's big problems with the

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testing, business editor Simon Jack will be here to explain all.

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And today we want to know what is stopping you from getting a good

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night's sleep, and does it affect your work? Let us know on Twitter.

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We start in the US where President Trump will be hosting

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel at the White House later.

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The two nations are major trading partners,

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but there's been growing concern on the US side that their

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The rhetoric has raised fears of a damaging trade war.

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Last year, the US sold $49 billion worth of goods to Germany,

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everything from Boeing airliners to Pfizer medicines.

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That sounds like a healthy figure until you look at this one,

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$114 billion was the value of goods Germany sold to the US.

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not to mention everything from industrial machinery to medicines.

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known as America's trade deficit with Germany,

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That's a bigger deficit than the US has with Mexico,

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and in fact any other country except China and Japan.

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In January, one of President Trump's top

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of using a "grossly undervalued" euro to "exploit" the US.

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Chancellor Merkel rejects the claim and points out the thousands

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of jobs created by German investment in the US.

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She says she will remind the President that BMW's US plant

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exports more US-made cars than GM and Ford put together.

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The bosses of BMW and another huge employer in the US,

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industrial giant Siemens, will be travelling

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Julian Howard, head of multi-asset solutions at GAM, is with me.

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Thank you for coming in this morning, trade is obviously a huge

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concern here, the German Chancellor and arriving flanked by those big

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bosses from Siemens and BMW. At one point recently, President Trump

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threaten to slap a 35% tariff on BMWs coming into the US comedy think

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it could happen? Not in the short term, but I think Donald Trump is

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going to need all those top executives. On Wednesday he met with

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various US auto executives, including the president of Toyota

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North America, and said, listen, I am giving you a hard time, but you

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have got to build more plants in the US. There is definitely a push to

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try and reduce the deficit, try to get more production in the US, and

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Germany does have quite a lot of production in the US, but the profit

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is booked back in Stuttgart and Munich. What do you think will come

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out of this meeting? Only two hours and then a working lunch, and it

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does feel a little bit like the German Chancellor is geared up for a

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fight, coming with their back-up, because when it comes to trade

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deficit, she is in a vulnerable position, isn't she? Yes,

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potentially, but the European story is starting to improve, and the weak

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euro has been a big problem. Donald Trump has accused her of basically

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cheating, using that weak euro. It is not our fault, it is the ECB

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policy on quantitative easing, but the euro are starting to gain ground

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against the dollar, so if she can buy some time, the problem may start

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to ease on its own accord. Interesting, with these tariffs, if

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the US chose to put tariffs on Germany, Angela Merkel cannot

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respond to that, because it is above her head. This is the advantage the

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US has when dealing with individual European countries, that he can

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attack them on a bilateral basis, but they have the river all

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negotiation up to the European Commission. The US already proposed

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a bilateral defence deal with Angela Merkel and the Germans, but the

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response was, that has to be dealt with at the higher level. That is

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really interesting, the statistic that the BMW plant in the US

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produces more cars than General Motors and Ford put together, a

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really good fact for Angela Merkel to put on the table at this meeting,

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saying, really, you cannot slap tariffs on German goods, because it

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will harm your jobs if you do so. Yeah, and a German auto industry has

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a 271 billion euros investment in the US, but like I said, the profit

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still goes back to Germany. Toyota grasp this back in the 1980s when

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they started building plans in the US, they are still being called out

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on this issue. The reality is, unless it is by American and higher

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American, that is what Donald Trump is getting at. One of these big

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issues has been, why don't use the American cars on the streets of

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Germany? One of the reasons for that is self-inflicted. GM has chosen not

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to market Chevrolet aggressively within Germany, and they have

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actually sold that whole arm back to the Europeans. So not all of this is

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within Angela Merkel's control, some of it is at the industry level.

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Thank you for your time this morning.

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In other news: Shares in the maker of high-end winter jackets

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Canada Goose rose 26% on their first day of trading.

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Some of their coats sell for more than a $1,000

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$256 million has been raised listing the shares in Canada and New York.

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That's where animal rights groups protested outside the stock exchange

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about the company's use of fur including from Coyotes.

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But the company says its fur comes from regulated trappers

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Pakistan says it's asked Facebook to help investigate

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"blasphemous content" posted on the social network.

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Blasphemy is a highly sensitive issue in Pakistan

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The interior ministry says Facebook has agreed to send a team

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to Pakistan to address reservations about content on its site.

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The private equity firm run by the former boss

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of Barclays Bob Diamond has made an offer to buy the loss-making

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Mr Diamond will be teaming up with QInvest,

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an investment bank with ties to Qatari government.

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QInvest already owns 43% of Panmure Gordon.

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Hong Kong's troubled flagship airline Cathay Pacific says

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as part of a major overhaul in the wake of losses.

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Simon Atkinson is in Singapore for us.

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This comes off the back of really terrible figures that Cathay brought

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out this week. That is right, we heard that 2016 had been a terrible

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year for Cathay Pacific, they lost about $74 million compared to a $6

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billion profit the before, and a lot of the reasons for that with things

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that really are not going to change. Chinese passengers flying directly

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out of China, rather than through Hong Kong. So these are the first

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concrete measures from the company about what they will do to try to

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reduce their costs, and as you say, one of the big things is cutting

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headcount. We reckon about 1000 jobs could go at headquarters, but that

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probably will not be enough. This is an airline which is struggling, the

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hub does not work for Hong Kong as well as it used to, so it will have

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to do a lot more. OK, Simon, many thanks.

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So let's take a look at the markets in a little more detail now.

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Overall in Asia there was a really positive trend,

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helped by some numbers from Singapore which showed the city

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state has seen its biggest jump in exports in five years.

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Although the Nikkei slipped back slightly,

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the Hang Seng index lifted once again to log weekly gain of 3%.

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In Europe, there is a little bit of treading water, no wild swings,

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and remember the FTSE 100 closed at a fresh record high yesterday.

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In the US, the Dow Jones turned negative at the close.

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We've talked about Angela Merkel's visit to the US later today.

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Investors will be watching that meeting closely.

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about what else is ahead for Wall Street today.

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Tiffany will be reporting earnings, and they may look available blingy.

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The upscale jeweller is focusing on new products to revive demand. And

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it is Saint Patrick's Day, an estimated 33.5 million Irish

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Americans live in the United States, seven times the population of

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Ireland. The average reveille will spend about $36 for a total of $5.3

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billion. Maybe luck of the Irish be with you!

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Joining us is a global market strategist

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You went green for St Patrick's Day! Let's move on, a fresh high on the

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FTSE, what is driving the market up? It has been having a great few

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weeks, and few months, given the low pound, remember that it sources

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around 70% of revenues from abroad, so with a low pound, that makes the

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exports of these companies more attractive, and those earnings, when

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you translate them back into sterling, are much higher. That is

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driving investors to pile into the FTSE 100. In recent days, we have

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had a rate hike from the US, but still some easy language from the

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Federal Reserve, so investors are more positive about equities on the

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whole. Do think the FTSE can keep going up? If it remains about the

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1.25 mark against the US dollar, and given that we expect Article 50 to

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be invoked and Brexit negotiations to begin, that rate should remain

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fairly low for the course of the year. Interesting remarks from

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Germany's finance buzzed, Wolfgang Schaeuble, about how the City of

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London retain its crown as a financial centre post-Brexit, and he

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has made these comments today, the G20 summit day, when they are

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starting to meet, quite important? It is, the G20 summit as a whole,

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and these comments Brexit, trade and where financial centres will remain,

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especially in the larger picture of the Trump administration being

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anti-trade and the deregulation of financial services, so London will

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be in a hotspot, thinking about what services can be a main to be located

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here in London, versus having to be shipped around to the rest of the

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European Union in the Brexit context, but also generally trade,

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emerging markets very dependent on global trade, other European

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countries that rely heavily on exports. How much attention to the

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market is paid to these big summits, it is all chat and ideas, to the

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markets listen? Or do they wait for the headlines afterwards? They do

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listen, it is important when these big economic trends are shifting

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equity indices and bond indices across the world, but like anything

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that is more discussion or policy based, we have to wait for something

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in terms of changes to policy or changes to trade and action. OK, we

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will have you back for the papers at the end of the programme, we want to

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know about your sleep patterns! It is hard when you have to get up at

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3am. Still to come:

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We'll get the Inside Track on all the big stories of the week

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with our business editor Simon Jack. You're with Business Live

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from BBC News. New research published today shows

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that 4% of UK working adults aged between 18 and 70 are working

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in the gig economy, that's a labour market characterised

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by the prevalence of short-term According to the Chartered Institute

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of Personnel and Development, about 1.3 million people are engaged

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in gig work and many workers are calling

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for basic employment rights. Ben Willmott, the Head of Public

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Policy at the CIPD, joins us now. The thing is, some people want to

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work flexibly and join the dead economy because of that flexibility

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that it brings to their lives. -- gig. Others of falls to, and that is

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where the real is you lies, and where you are campaigning, I

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suppose. -- others are forced to do. On the positive side, gig economy

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workers are at least as satisfied with their work as other workers,

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they are more satisfied in terms of things like flexibility and

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independence, and most gig economy workers choose to work in the gig

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economy, so about one in ten say that they are working in the gig

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economy because they could not get a regular job in the labour market,

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and most people do so in order to boost their income, rather than rely

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on income. So that is the sort of positive side. The negative side is

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we know from our research that many gig economy workers do not know what

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their employers are, and if they do feel exploited, where they can go to

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seek redress. And crucially, a lot of gig economy workers, a

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significant minority say that although they are classified as

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self-employed, they are actually treated as workers in terms of the

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level of control. So some people are getting the worst of both worlds in

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terms of not enjoying the autonomy and independence of self-employment

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and nor are they getting the rights that they should be getting if they

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were classified as workers, things like eligibility for national

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minimum wage, for example. That story is on the BBC Business

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Live page. Some are forced to and some are

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making a personal choice. Our top story: Transatlantic trade

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is at the top of the agenda as Germany's Angela Merkel gets set

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to meet President Trump The trade balance and currency

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valuations are likely to be Quite a lot of treading water going

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on at the moment. The Footsie closed at a record high yesterday. -- FTSE.

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Let's get the inside track on global interest rates.

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The US Federal Reserve raised its benchmark interest

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It was just the third time in a decade.

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Let's get more with our Business Editor, Simon Jack.

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Take as around the world in interest rates. It is a global thing because

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this is the cost of borrowing the world's reserve currency, all sorts

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of things are priced in dollars so it affects the entire world. When we

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had the rays everybody was expecting that. It is the third time in a

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decade. Every time they have moved interest rates we have got this is

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the beginning of the take-off and suddenly it peters out again and

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watches that yesterday was that the US economy has not strengthened a

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great deal since the last thing she looked at it. Although she can put

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it up because inflation is 1.9% and the jobless rate is low, it looks

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like a normal economy, it is not charging away, so she said maybe

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there will be another interest rate rise this week, people were

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factoring three or four a few weeks ago. The stock market got that

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Donald Trump was going to spend big and cut corporate taxes. She's that

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might be another one this year. Interest rates do not look as if

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they are going to shoot up and that is good news for people around the

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sluggish, wages are not going up. sluggish, wages are not going up.

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That decision that she has made has a knock-on effect on the global

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economy. Exactly because lots of people in emerging economies have

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lots of debts denominated in dollars particularly in places in Asia and

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South America and when the cost of borrowing goes up in dollars their

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and yet their debts are going up in and yet their debts are going up in

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price because the interest rates go up. That can cause a problem. Also

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beat will have got money elsewhere around the world because they have

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been chasing return and they think they can get a better return in

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dollars. Why am I taking this risk over here? Maybe I will move it back

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to somewhere safer. Capital flows go back as the interest rates go up on

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the dollar. We are going to talk about the car industry. The

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omissions scandal continues. Fresh allegations against rain all. VW are

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going to be $25 billion to clean up their affairs in the US. I much that

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will be in Europe is another case. Surely VW cannot be the only people

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doing this. Sure enough other people have been put under investigation.

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We got some allegations against Renault this week, a report compiled

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last year, a French news paper got hold of some of their son said there

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was reason to suspect that the cause of the difference in tests in

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scenarios and real life, maybe there was something going on. Renault have

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denied that saying there is no device in the way that VW have

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confessed to. We will see how that goes on but it is a rumbling

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question. As far as a mission scandals go it puts the spotlight on

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diesel cars and their future because if you have to cheat the tests it

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seems like they pollute more than we were told. It is interesting because

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here in the UK we were told to go diesel and were incentives to do

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that, diesel was cheaper, different taxes are my fees, everyone was

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going diesel because you got more miles to the gallon, and now diesel

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has been demonised saying you may win on one but the omissions on the

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other side are not so good. We got to a point where 50% of all new cars

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were diesel. I am not sure what the latest stats are but that advance of

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diesel has been halted. There is a question of whether diesel has run

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out of puff. Public policy changes as well, charging diesel drivers

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more to intercity centres for example.

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If all this news is giving you heavy eyelids, or like us

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you started work at 3am, this may wake you up.

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According to the Rand Corporation lack of sleep is costing the world

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economy billions of dollars in lost productivity and it can

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Theo Leggett stayed up just long enough to file this report.

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We know that we need sleep and some of us probably need more than others

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but what happens if you do not get enough? What can it mean for your

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ability to do your job? I have come here to this clinical research

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centre at the University of Surrey where they study sleep and in

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particular what happens to your brain if you do not get enough. I am

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going to go over a few things that we will do after we finish. This

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doctor is a research fellow at the University. Her team studies what

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happens to the sleeping brain and have analysed how insufficient sleep

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can have deeply damaging effects on health and performance. Sleep

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deprivation can lead to a mental state which is very similar to being

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drunk. In part because you are not aware of your inability to focus or

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perform at your best and your judgments are impaired, your speed

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is imperilled. Maria is going to give you instructions. This gives

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you a -- comes at a cost. Lost sleep can cut economic output by up to 3%.

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In the US would cost up to $411 billion a year. In Japan it is

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billion and in the UK $50 billion are just over ?40 million. People

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who do not sleep as much or more likely to die of cardiovascular

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disease and cancer and have a car accident. People who enough are more

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likely to come to work and are more productive at work compared to

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people who do not sleep enough. Sacrificing sleep to work long hours

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me impress your boss but it may be dangerous and could be costing your

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company a great deal. Perhaps it would be better all-round if we

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could sometimes sit back and take a well earned nap. We will prod him

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later to wake him up. It is an issue particularly if you are working

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shifts and trying to get sleep when you can. How do you manage with your

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sleep patterns? Do you get enough? What prevents it? I usually try to

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get a couple of hours. A couple? Seven or eight if I can but if there

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something big happening I often end up staying up too late. Have you

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ever slept the office? No. Sleep deprivation can make people feel

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like they are drunk. It is that serious. You may not want to be

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filling like that. The Times. Ads shown on videos are contributing to

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extremist content or extremist producers are not miss the family

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what these advertisers, companies we know and use every day, would like

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to be funding. He challenged for the likes of the internet companies or

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Google or YouTube or any of these that have that connection. It is the

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Home Office, the Royal Navy, the BBC, their ads are popping up on

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controversial or extremist videos but they would not want to have them

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on. How does it happen? That is the larger theme, algorithmic, high-tech

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processes that connect content to content which are not necessarily

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screening for the content of the extremist or nationalist videos so

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there is an element of the human review process that is maybe messing

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and that is what that investigation is looking into. This story about

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how a piano tuner found a stash of cash and it was a big one in a piano

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that he was working on. Incredible. A lot of piano is out there are not

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really worth that much anyway. A sack of gold coins. I would love to

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find that my old piano. Thinking about the history of how things are

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passed down and the value, not just finding these gold coins, but the

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history behind someone who must a stash this in there. The latest one

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is 1915, they think it was stashed around then. Around a time of war,

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where it was safe to put your money. Maybe they are worth more than we

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think. Do you think they will give one to the piano tuner?

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